The Millennials / the older GenZ witnessed their parents and grandparents lose everything in 2008 and never recover. The 'hardwork will payoff' facade is over.
The weird thing about it to me is, how people describe quiet quitting is just like... How normal people behave. Are people supposed to run around at work trying to get promoted all the time? That's not normal. People just want to live their lives. Grinding 24/7 culture is what's not normal or natural.
A society where the majority are workaholics usually occurs when there is tremendous growth opportunities. It happens when there are lots of low hanging fruits to be harvested, like when there is a breakthrough industry that suddenly creates an abundance of wealth but that is not sustainable. The result is that those who were lucky enough to ride the wave accumulate substantial amount of money while those who arrive late get only scraps.
That's actually how the majority of the people in Kuwait (my country) are. There are workaholics but they are rare and few. When it's time to clock out, I would say 90% of the people clock out. Just do your job and get out. No need to outdo yourself. Maybe it's because of the culture too, since we don't really have a hustle culture here. We have a very laid back culture. You get home at about 3, have lunch, take a nap maybe, and socialise afterwards with people outside of your workplace. A human's functional wellbeing is limited compared to machinery, and in a capitalistic society and world, they expect us to achieve fast and accurate results as if we are machines. And I think people all over are realising the benefits of slowing down.
@@phillipchan6044 government employees arrive home at 3, they get off work at 2, 2:15, and 2:30 😅 But we start work at 8, some even start at 7 and 7:30. So it's an exchange sort of.
It is really rare to hear this type of candid conversation on substance these days particularly between people of Z generation from different countries. Well done Chris!
i graduated high school in 72 in CA. and things never got better. i have been an underpaid lawyer and and an underpayed carpenter, you name it. opportunity in usa has gone just like the editor guy says. i despise capitalism. i am retired now, spent 1/2 a century breaking my back literally to make a living. "how are you doing?" people would ask. "getting by." that's all there ever was, just surviving. god damn the capitalists, to hell with the system. i wish i could go to china and be away from this monkey house. the empire will fall soon, to the great benefit of the world, but it will be worse for workers. it does have to happen.
China now has the same problems. Have you heard of the 996 work schedule? 9AM to 9PM, six days per week. Housing is just as unaffordable as the US now. I watch videos from Americans living in Russia, they seem to love it there. One problem, getting money from their western banks. I don't know how you would get your social security payment there. Maybe Vietnam?
China most part of it , is a part of THE SYSTEM for 40 years, though there remains some power to fix it, the working condition here now is worse then the U.S.,. In fact , THE SYSTEM brought more Chinese output to the US so the people in the US got more by the International trade system.
@@Mildau30 It's easy for you to make wild allegations and claims without proofs. Of course you will then say that you were there and you witnessed it. Even if it's true, aren't you then a part of the evil corporations that abuse their workers by continue to work there and taking a high expat salary and perks?? Isn't this hypocrism for you to speak out now??
Ben Becker pointed out the main contradiction of the United States, that is, the relations of production did not match the productivity. The United States has rich resources and advanced technology to support strong productivity, but resources are monopolized by an increasingly greedy part of the people, whose greed is endless, and the extremely rich resources cause extreme poverty. This group of extremely greedy and selfish individuals control the United States, believing that there should be inequality between people and enjoying the pleasure of being above others. The rise of China proves that people can live on an equal footing while achieving better economic development. This makes them extremely afraid that if China maintains a huge advantage in the quality of life and economic development of Americans, there is a possibility of a communist revolution in the United States and even the world. At that time, this group of extreme egoistic believers may have nowhere to hide and be forced to share an equal Earth with others. This is a war between capitalism and communism. At present, communism is far from the stage of initiation, but the war has already begun ahead of schedule. Capitalism is a breeding ground for self-interest, while socialism breeds altruism. China has its own enemies of self-interest within itself, and this type of person is in power in the United States.
Very well stated! The word most descriptive of our rulers (and unfettered capitalism) is "SOCIOPATHIC." In late-stage capitalism, which we're now witnessing, the parasites have nearly sucked the "host" body dry. Now they're trying to eat each other and any other body (country) they can capture. Frankly, this explains everything from societal collapse to personal maladies to war fever. You'll adore the latest historical overview of the situation by Michael Hudson on Ben Norton's GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMICS program. (Especially the last 20 minutes where he makes the case for countries not paying the IMF!!!) Check it out-- it's a real treat!
@@rualablhor Over 100 years of Capitalist propaganda, indoctrinating billions has worked wonders. Too bad not many people read his works and realize how precise his ideas are.
When I look on my life, I find the greatest difference between then and now to be the question of belonging. Previously one would feel part of a society, a smaller unit, and while working for oneself, meanwhile having a sense of working for a common cause. Now that's completely gone - worldwide apparently, and alienation seems growing rapidly. And for natural reasons: a social being, working (and living) just for oneself simply isn't meaningful enough. When added to this unsatisfactory way of spending hour and years of one's life, citizens in such societies reduced to consumers and costumers, we are in for spiritual disaster. When in addition the jobs are getting colder, more technological, more efficient and impersonal, and as work conditions worsened, the anxiety and stress is inevitable. Regarding the leaving of teachers en mass, it's not only due to deteriorating premises of teaching. The teachers experience less responsive students - due to the exact same reasons - and they are teaching less but doing more social work - while only mending the wounds and symptoms of a sick society - and with inadequate means. This frustration is of course unbearable in the long run. As for myself, I simply cannot prepare young people for a society that I so utterly disagree with.
There is literally no room for hope Ecologically Economically Socially We're left holding the bag, as bad if not worse than millenials who are now in their 40s. The only hope is that collapse is on the menu. So image how ridiculous it sounds to be told that you should pull your bootstraps and have a college degree, a pension, a house and kids as if it's the 1960s and a summer job can afford anything. As if the material and ecological conditions weren't completely vandalised by older generations.
money is power in usa. but the landed gentry now are free to go somewhere else, and no longer need the country they are destroying. in socialism, replacing junk jobs with machines can be dealt with, as you take, for instance, the displaced labor from trucking, and let them do something nice everyone wants. make beautiful parks. create a fabulous maglev train system. but you cannot have "owners" who don't work and never did.
"Dropping Out" is the term my generation would have used. That was in the Sixties and Seventies. It wasn't as clearcut as that, however. For one thing, workers stayed in their jobs for far longer. Why? Because there were benefits to doing so: health, savings profit sharing, and retirement schemes for instance. So, quitting from dissatisfaction wasn't such an issue. Need a loan? No problem. Repayments were automatically deducted from our wages. Even in-house cafeterias provided usually excellent food, negating the need to waste time during one's lunch break and spending more money than needed. So dropping out was predicated on things other than lousy job conditions; more towards philosophical or lifestyle values. However, there is one other consideration to be borne in mind when looking at this; the overall state of the economy. Back in the Seventies, I could leave (and did) my job at any time and not have to worry too much about getting another one. Back then, there was no HR bullshit, at least not to the extent there is today. It was not uncommon, come Summer, to see a wave of resignations by young men (mainly) who immediately climbed into their Kombies and Holdens and headed for the nearest beach! Surf's Up! So, what happened? Maybe the first thing was the global oil crisis around 1973/4, which caused businesses and governments to put the breaks on. But the other, and perhaps more important, thing was the economic model under which we worked: Keynesianism, which, put simply, involves greater government involvement in overall business strategies, including bail outs - remember 2008 and the "too big to fail" bail outs? The free market capitalists weren't shy in putting their hands up for the so-despised government meddling in business, then! The Keynesian model, however, ran into problems, when it was unable to explain how high inflation and unemployment ("stagflation") could happen at the same time. The model fell out of flavour in favour of classical economics, given a boost by Milton Friedman's Monetarist ideas, in which money flow or supply controls the economy. From the average employee's perspective, it could be put this way: Under the Keynesian system unemployment is more important then inflation Under the Monetarist system inflation is more important than unemployment. In other, pragmatic, words, so long as Big Business and its participants - management and board and shareholders - are doing well, so is the nation. If that means halving the workforce, so be it; what's needed is a lean machine. No more on-the-job benefits, no annoying labour unions or mass wage bargaining and so on. The idea of an open, global, unregulated economy is also an open invitation to bad faith players as exampled by the many hostile takeovers and asset strippings, which occurred frequently throughout those decades and resulted in massive redundancies and even the demise of entire communities. Faced with an employer who sees little value in retaining a long term workforce, when younger, newer workers are available and malleable and disposable, then it's no wonder employees become disillusioned, especially when their pay isn't going up in relation to inflation. Throughout the late Eighties and Nineties, I could feel my overall investment in my job becoming less and less as an atmosphere of "more, more, more" began to emerge. Well, there's only so much "more" that can be produced until it becomes dangerously superfluous.
PS: One other thing that went MIA in the workplace from the mid-Eighties onward - FUN. I watched casual, spontaneous moments of silliness ooze out of my co-workers like blood from an open wound. Everyone's behaviour was being watched and everyone could have been called out and into management's office at any time, where the HR rep would also be waiting with a stack of papers and pen in hand because "reports" had been made of one's less than total commitment to the "Team". Jesus! Dystopian? Orwellian? Hell, YES!
HR is one entity that is useless to the core. Just the other day, I was miffed when my HR wanted a bunch of us, team by team to have an HR VOE Connect. To talk about what, the low ratings that our team had given on an anonymous VOE (voice of the employee) survey. So here we are to justify why we rated what we rated. And when no one wanted to speak up, he brushed the team off saying there is no alignment with what we rated and what we are portraying in the meeting with him.
@@stillwatersnightsky6533 HR departments are all about job justification - theirs! They're the corporate equivalent of government-paid advisors who fly in on expensive jets babble on for a few days or weeks, drop a glossy report, charge millions in tax dollars and fly out again! Result: minimal to zero change. Employees Voices is window dressing. HR appears to be diligently doing its job, drops the results and summary to Management and Management pats HR on the head while pouring itself a Scotch. To be seen to be listening, someone gets promoted while someone else is removed. Okay, that's my extremely cynical take on the process I admit!
I've read the JD Vance book. It was a self serving, unpleasant bit of right wing prop. The way out of hillbilly dope land is through hard work, the Army. conformity and you should all shape up and ship out. This speaker has been quite polite about it!
They're not ever going to do it because if they dive too deep into the topic, they'll have to admit that China isn't socialist, nor are they building socialism. It's a social democracy like European countries.
@rulz2663 Employers don't deserve anything more. Their paying less than the bare minimum to live. Way I see it, doing the bare minimum as an employer=being ripped off smart guy.
If you want to see what's wrong with our current system, if you want a real visible representation, then look up the chief of the 'bank for international settlements', Agustín Carstens. Sometimes the Universe makes it incredibly obvious for us. And funny.
Thank you for providing context in regards to JD Vance. I'm glad the yank took the time to make the distinction between Hillbilly Elegy's plot including the authors interpretation of the American dream versus reality.
I'm well aware things aren't ever going to improve if our society/economy stays the same. The only job I've gotten pays like 3.50 over state minimum and I don't have qualifications for much better. Why work hard when your pay doesn't increase to reflect it?
The latest China Modernisation goals match very much the UN Sustainable Development Goals-poverty, food, education, clean energy, climate change, extinction, etc,. Western materialism is becoming an outdated concept, big mansions, yachts, private jets are not righteous and not civilised living anymore. Young people can make plans without the unnecessary desires of sports cars and handbags. Every one is talented in his own ways, some people can aim to get rich and do great things with his wealth to contribute to society but don’t fall victim to vanity and extravaganza.
I’m philosophically opposed to many of the opinions expressed but appreciate the thoughtful conversation. Workers have been treated very poorly and I believe they deserve better (along with some security). In the ten months since this video was published, things have become much worse for everyday people. Lying flat, these days, is choosing to play with fire.
Calling usa citizens "americans" is like calling Chinese people "asians" if the country is named united states of asia. America is a Continent. Not 3. 1.
China is a very strange "socialist" country, ngl. The USSR was able to get more done in a shorter amount of time with way less money. If I'm being real, China is closer to a European social democracy when it comes to economy with a political system that mirrors actual socialist countries like USSR, DPRK, Cuba etc. Same with Vietnam. China is a very progressive country and is doing things a lot better than the US but that's a very low bar that's not easy to surpass. Many developing countries are doing things better than the US. Chinas economy doesn't resemble socialism in any meaningful way.
@@ZixianTaoif you look at it from an objective standpoint, it's clearly just a capitalist social democracy. Breakthrough News calls it socialist and justifies it by comparing it to the US, which is an extremely low bar.
What is different between generations is social media. the previous generations didn't spend their time making Tiktok videos about the evils of capitalism and how terrible it is to have to work to live and eat any why housing isn't free.
As a "baby boomer" I find that this attitude is just one of laziness. If you have no goals in life, of course, you will not be successful. The attitude of "I am entitled" is what destroys the current generation. As a young 17 year old out of high school, I set my goals. I figured out what I had to do to achieve those goals. I worked hard to complete each. I have retired from two jobs and receive retirement income from both employers, sufficient to pay my standard of living for the rest of my life. At 69 years old, I still have goals to achieve and will work to reach those goals because I have ambition. For those who do not feel as I do, that is your decision on the life style you wish to have, it just is not my life style.
Ok I am sorry but I have to correct you on one thing. Capitalism is not the problem, because in Communist, Socialist and other methods of Monetary-Market system. It's the Monetary-Market system itself that is the issue!!! The idea that you need to work to survive is such an outdated concept and practice considering we have the Science and Technology to fully automate our societies and the entire planet. We can actually work with Nature to use renewable resources more effectively and efficiently as possible. Unfortunately, the monetary-market system does not permit this due to loss of profits and definitely loss of power and control over other people. Again, this is the monetary-market system problem, not whatever bs method used to practice it... communism, socialism, fascism... they all use the same f^
I like BTN but I'm a bit confused about this video trying to tie GenZ in both nations...*they are more different than alike... The Asian on the left is maybe projecting abit. Id wager no more than 1 out of 50 (Chinese) GenZ knows who Marx was. Moreover, the US and China are vastly different in that China is growing, ascenting while the neoliberal US is declining, for the most part... (Near the end) Every worker in *the world wants to be treated fairly and equally, come on now... That in itself doesn't tie US and China GenZ together smh
The Millennials / the older GenZ witnessed their parents and grandparents lose everything in 2008 and never recover. The 'hardwork will payoff' facade is over.
2008 was a temporary property price collapse and today the average house price is literally 2x the price houses were before 2008.
We never recovered from 2008
The weird thing about it to me is, how people describe quiet quitting is just like... How normal people behave. Are people supposed to run around at work trying to get promoted all the time? That's not normal. People just want to live their lives. Grinding 24/7 culture is what's not normal or natural.
A society where the majority are workaholics usually occurs when there is tremendous growth opportunities. It happens when there are lots of low hanging fruits to be harvested, like when there is a breakthrough industry that suddenly creates an abundance of wealth but that is not sustainable. The result is that those who were lucky enough to ride the wave accumulate substantial amount of money while those who arrive late get only scraps.
That's actually how the majority of the people in Kuwait (my country) are. There are workaholics but they are rare and few. When it's time to clock out, I would say 90% of the people clock out. Just do your job and get out. No need to outdo yourself. Maybe it's because of the culture too, since we don't really have a hustle culture here. We have a very laid back culture. You get home at about 3, have lunch, take a nap maybe, and socialise afterwards with people outside of your workplace. A human's functional wellbeing is limited compared to machinery, and in a capitalistic society and world, they expect us to achieve fast and accurate results as if we are machines. And I think people all over are realising the benefits of slowing down.
@@SomeKuwaitiya getting off work at 3pm is a pipe dream to me.
@@phillipchan6044 government employees arrive home at 3, they get off work at 2, 2:15, and 2:30 😅
But we start work at 8, some even start at 7 and 7:30. So it's an exchange sort of.
Companies force extra work upon you and threaten to fire you if you don't comply.
It is really rare to hear this type of candid conversation on substance these days particularly between people of Z generation from different countries. Well done Chris!
i graduated high school in 72 in CA. and things never got better. i have been an underpaid lawyer and and an underpayed carpenter, you name it. opportunity in usa has gone just like the editor guy says.
i despise capitalism. i am retired now, spent 1/2 a century breaking my back literally to make a living. "how are you doing?" people would ask. "getting by." that's all there ever was, just surviving.
god damn the capitalists, to hell with the system. i wish i could go to china and be away from this monkey house. the empire will fall soon, to the great benefit of the world, but it will be worse for workers. it does have to happen.
China now has the same problems. Have you heard of the 996 work schedule? 9AM to 9PM, six days per week. Housing is just as unaffordable as the US now. I watch videos from Americans living in Russia, they seem to love it there. One problem, getting money from their western banks. I don't know how you would get your social security payment there. Maybe Vietnam?
@@xenuburger7924 come on... the only people that work 996 in China are the ones in Big Tech. Everybody else works normal hours.
@@AZ-rg3rf Exactly! Just love to parrot something which not necessary mean the masses.
China most part of it , is a part of THE SYSTEM for 40 years, though there remains some power to fix it, the working condition here now is worse then the U.S.,.
In fact , THE SYSTEM brought more Chinese output to the US so the people in the US got more by the International trade system.
@@Mildau30 It's easy for you to make wild allegations and claims without proofs. Of course you will then say that you were there and you witnessed it. Even if it's true, aren't you then a part of the evil corporations that abuse their workers by continue to work there and taking a high expat salary and perks?? Isn't this hypocrism for you to speak out now??
As a gen Z American, I am laying flat.
Because you're too fat to get up after all those burgers? I joke of course... Everyone knows you can't afford them anymore.
It’s called quiet quitting in the western world.
Going Galt
Ben Becker pointed out the main contradiction of the United States, that is, the relations of production did not match the productivity. The United States has rich resources and advanced technology to support strong productivity, but resources are monopolized by an increasingly greedy part of the people, whose greed is endless, and the extremely rich resources cause extreme poverty.
This group of extremely greedy and selfish individuals control the United States, believing that there should be inequality between people and enjoying the pleasure of being above others. The rise of China proves that people can live on an equal footing while achieving better economic development. This makes them extremely afraid that if China maintains a huge advantage in the quality of life and economic development of Americans, there is a possibility of a communist revolution in the United States and even the world.
At that time, this group of extreme egoistic believers may have nowhere to hide and be forced to share an equal Earth with others. This is a war between capitalism and communism. At present, communism is far from the stage of initiation, but the war has already begun ahead of schedule.
Capitalism is a breeding ground for self-interest, while socialism breeds altruism. China has its own enemies of self-interest within itself, and this type of person is in power in the United States.
Very well stated! The word most descriptive of our rulers (and unfettered capitalism) is "SOCIOPATHIC."
In late-stage capitalism, which we're now witnessing, the parasites have nearly sucked the "host" body dry. Now they're trying to eat each other and any other body (country) they can capture.
Frankly, this explains everything from societal collapse to personal maladies to war fever.
You'll adore the latest historical overview of the situation by Michael Hudson on Ben Norton's GEOPOLITICAL ECONOMICS program. (Especially the last 20 minutes where he makes the case for countries not paying the IMF!!!)
Check it out-- it's a real treat!
Communism breeds dictatorship
"Let's get this party started" - Karl Marx
Based
Yea, Marx...too bad most normal folks don't know his ideas...come on, let's not get too carried away🤭
@@rualablhor Over 100 years of Capitalist propaganda, indoctrinating billions has worked wonders.
Too bad not many people read his works and realize how precise his ideas are.
When I look on my life, I find the greatest difference between then and now to be the question of belonging. Previously one would feel part of a society, a smaller unit, and while working for oneself, meanwhile having a sense of working for a common cause.
Now that's completely gone - worldwide apparently, and alienation seems growing rapidly. And for natural reasons: a social being, working (and living) just for oneself simply isn't meaningful enough. When added to this unsatisfactory way of spending hour and years of one's life, citizens in such societies reduced to consumers and costumers, we are in for spiritual disaster. When in addition the jobs are getting colder, more technological, more efficient and impersonal, and as work conditions worsened, the anxiety and stress is inevitable.
Regarding the leaving of teachers en mass, it's not only due to deteriorating premises of teaching. The teachers experience less responsive students - due to the exact same reasons - and they are teaching less but doing more social work - while only mending the wounds and symptoms of a sick society - and with inadequate means. This frustration is of course unbearable in the long run. As for myself, I simply cannot prepare young people for a society that I so utterly disagree with.
BEAUTIFULLY STATED!!!!
Russia may be the only nation not experiencing the cultural collapse you describe so well.
Chip in guys we gotta keep these people together & making videos
There is literally no room for hope
Ecologically
Economically
Socially
We're left holding the bag, as bad if not worse than millenials who are now in their 40s.
The only hope is that collapse is on the menu.
So image how ridiculous it sounds to be told that you should pull your bootstraps and have a college degree, a pension, a house and kids as if it's the 1960s and a summer job can afford anything. As if the material and ecological conditions weren't completely vandalised by older generations.
You mean stolen by the "global elites" and unfettered capitalism.
money is power in usa. but the landed gentry now are free to go somewhere else, and no longer need the country they are destroying. in socialism, replacing junk jobs with machines can be dealt with, as you take, for instance, the displaced labor from trucking, and let them do something nice everyone wants. make beautiful parks. create a fabulous maglev train system. but you cannot have "owners" who don't work and never did.
Bravo 👏🏾! A much needed reminder and conversation for our future generations from millennials and beyond.
"Dropping Out" is the term my generation would have used. That was in the Sixties and Seventies.
It wasn't as clearcut as that, however. For one thing, workers stayed in their jobs for far longer. Why? Because there were benefits to doing so: health, savings profit sharing, and retirement schemes for instance. So, quitting from dissatisfaction wasn't such an issue. Need a loan? No problem. Repayments were automatically deducted from our wages. Even in-house cafeterias provided usually excellent food, negating the need to waste time during one's lunch break and spending more money than needed.
So dropping out was predicated on things other than lousy job conditions; more towards philosophical or lifestyle values. However, there is one other consideration to be borne in mind when looking at this; the overall state of the economy. Back in the Seventies, I could leave (and did) my job at any time and not have to worry too much about getting another one. Back then, there was no HR bullshit, at least not to the extent there is today. It was not uncommon, come Summer, to see a wave of resignations by young men (mainly) who immediately climbed into their Kombies and Holdens and headed for the nearest beach! Surf's Up!
So, what happened? Maybe the first thing was the global oil crisis around 1973/4, which caused businesses and governments to put the breaks on. But the other, and perhaps more important, thing was the economic model under which we worked: Keynesianism, which, put simply, involves greater government involvement in overall business strategies, including bail outs - remember 2008 and the "too big to fail" bail outs? The free market capitalists weren't shy in putting their hands up for the so-despised government meddling in business, then!
The Keynesian model, however, ran into problems, when it was unable to explain how high inflation and unemployment ("stagflation") could happen at the same time. The model fell out of flavour in favour of classical economics, given a boost by Milton Friedman's Monetarist ideas, in which money flow or supply controls the economy.
From the average employee's perspective, it could be put this way:
Under the Keynesian system unemployment is more important then inflation
Under the Monetarist system inflation is more important than unemployment.
In other, pragmatic, words, so long as Big Business and its participants - management and board and shareholders - are doing well, so is the nation. If that means halving the workforce, so be it; what's needed is a lean machine. No more on-the-job benefits, no annoying labour unions or mass wage bargaining and so on.
The idea of an open, global, unregulated economy is also an open invitation to bad faith players as exampled by the many hostile takeovers and asset strippings, which occurred frequently throughout those decades and resulted in massive redundancies and even the demise of entire communities.
Faced with an employer who sees little value in retaining a long term workforce, when younger, newer workers are available and malleable and disposable, then it's no wonder employees become disillusioned, especially when their pay isn't going up in relation to inflation. Throughout the late Eighties and Nineties, I could feel my overall investment in my job becoming less and less as an atmosphere of "more, more, more" began to emerge. Well, there's only so much "more" that can be produced until it becomes dangerously superfluous.
PS: One other thing that went MIA in the workplace from the mid-Eighties onward - FUN.
I watched casual, spontaneous moments of silliness ooze out of my co-workers like blood from an open wound. Everyone's behaviour was being watched and everyone could have been called out and into management's office at any time, where the HR rep would also be waiting with a stack of papers and pen in hand because "reports" had been made of one's less than total commitment to the "Team". Jesus!
Dystopian? Orwellian? Hell, YES!
HR is one entity that is useless to the core. Just the other day, I was miffed when my HR wanted a bunch of us, team by team to have an HR VOE Connect. To talk about what, the low ratings that our team had given on an anonymous VOE (voice of the employee) survey. So here we are to justify why we rated what we rated. And when no one wanted to speak up, he brushed the team off saying there is no alignment with what we rated and what we are portraying in the meeting with him.
@@stillwatersnightsky6533 HR departments are all about job justification - theirs! They're the corporate equivalent of government-paid advisors who fly in on expensive jets babble on for a few days or weeks, drop a glossy report, charge millions in tax dollars and fly out again! Result: minimal to zero change. Employees Voices is window dressing. HR appears to be diligently doing its job, drops the results and summary to Management and Management pats HR on the head while pouring itself a Scotch. To be seen to be listening, someone gets promoted while someone else is removed.
Okay, that's my extremely cynical take on the process I admit!
And yet, many "live on the other side of imperialism" (to quote Vijay Prashad) and therefore benefit from it (me included).
I've read the JD Vance book. It was a self serving, unpleasant bit of right wing prop. The way out of hillbilly dope land is through hard work, the Army. conformity and you should all shape up and ship out. This speaker has been quite polite about it!
Yeah pretty ridiculous how the one method of social mobility that hasn't been cut in the US is the military.
i would like, for future episodes. More elaboration on how Chinese youth and workers are combatting these issues of alienation in the private sector.
They're not ever going to do it because if they dive too deep into the topic, they'll have to admit that China isn't socialist, nor are they building socialism. It's a social democracy like European countries.
I'm not doing the bare minimum. I'm performing the labor they pay for.
That’s called bare minimum, smart guy.
@rulz2663 Employers don't deserve anything more. Their paying less than the bare minimum to live. Way I see it, doing the bare minimum as an employer=being ripped off smart guy.
If you want to see what's wrong with our current system, if you want a real visible representation, then look up the chief of the 'bank for international settlements', Agustín Carstens.
Sometimes the Universe makes it incredibly obvious for us. And funny.
Thank you for providing context in regards to JD Vance. I'm glad the yank took the time to make the distinction between Hillbilly Elegy's plot including the authors interpretation of the American dream versus reality.
I'm well aware things aren't ever going to improve if our society/economy stays the same. The only job I've gotten pays like 3.50 over state minimum and I don't have qualifications for much better.
Why work hard when your pay doesn't increase to reflect it?
The comments here ate EXCEPTIONAL!
Love your show!
Only way to win is to not play. Drop out, grow food, live small, reject their products and marketing.
Makes more and more sense why people choose off-grid or homelessness lifestyles.
The latest China Modernisation goals match very much the UN Sustainable Development Goals-poverty, food, education, clean energy, climate change, extinction, etc,. Western materialism is becoming an outdated concept, big mansions, yachts, private jets are not righteous and not civilised living anymore. Young people can make plans without the unnecessary desires of sports cars and handbags. Every one is talented in his own ways, some people can aim to get rich and do great things with his wealth to contribute to society but don’t fall victim to vanity and extravaganza.
I’m philosophically opposed to many of the opinions expressed but appreciate the thoughtful conversation. Workers have been treated very poorly and I believe they deserve better (along with some security). In the ten months since this video was published, things have become much worse for everyday people. Lying flat, these days, is choosing to play with fire.
Why are we checking out? Because FU that's why.
Thanks for sharing.❤
every single day, the world shows me that i made the right decision by staying childfree.
I am no longer proud to live in a capitalist system.
Good conversation
U have to work x10 times as much for a useless used up p sleeve that's x20 worse than my grandfather... wtf no thanks hoeflation
Is Brian related to Ben? 🤔
Calling usa citizens "americans" is like calling Chinese people "asians" if the country is named united states of asia.
America is a Continent. Not 3. 1.
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China is a very strange "socialist" country, ngl. The USSR was able to get more done in a shorter amount of time with way less money. If I'm being real, China is closer to a European social democracy when it comes to economy with a political system that mirrors actual socialist countries like USSR, DPRK, Cuba etc. Same with Vietnam.
China is a very progressive country and is doing things a lot better than the US but that's a very low bar that's not easy to surpass. Many developing countries are doing things better than the US. Chinas economy doesn't resemble socialism in any meaningful way.
As a Chinese, I don’t think China is a socialist country or communism country, at least in economic system, it’s definitely capitalism.
@@ZixianTaoif you look at it from an objective standpoint, it's clearly just a capitalist social democracy.
Breakthrough News calls it socialist and justifies it by comparing it to the US, which is an extremely low bar.
What is different between generations is social media. the previous generations didn't spend their time making Tiktok videos about the evils of capitalism and how terrible it is to have to work to live and eat any why housing isn't free.
Cool T-shirt. You could sell...one
Male singleness is skyrocketing, but it never got talked about
How can it be only male? The girls are cheating in large numbers then.
As a "baby boomer" I find that this attitude is just one of laziness. If you have no goals in life, of course, you will not be successful. The attitude of "I am entitled" is what destroys the current generation. As a young 17 year old out of high school, I set my goals. I figured out what I had to do to achieve those goals. I worked hard to complete each. I have retired from two jobs and receive retirement income from both employers, sufficient to pay my standard of living for the rest of my life. At 69 years old, I still have goals to achieve and will work to reach those goals because I have ambition. For those who do not feel as I do, that is your decision on the life style you wish to have, it just is not my life style.
Ok I am sorry but I have to correct you on one thing. Capitalism is not the problem, because in Communist, Socialist and other methods of Monetary-Market system. It's the Monetary-Market system itself that is the issue!!! The idea that you need to work to survive is such an outdated concept and practice considering we have the Science and Technology to fully automate our societies and the entire planet. We can actually work with Nature to use renewable resources more effectively and efficiently as possible. Unfortunately, the monetary-market system does not permit this due to loss of profits and definitely loss of power and control over other people. Again, this is the monetary-market system problem, not whatever bs method used to practice it... communism, socialism, fascism... they all use the same f^
Chinese people should just say what millions of Americans say: Love the people, hate the government!
Chinese people mostly love their government
They do like love their own people and love their own Government
M K is clueless about China smh
@@rualablhor It's not my fault you believe American propaganda.
I like BTN but I'm a bit confused about this video trying to tie GenZ in both nations...*they are more different than alike... The Asian on the left is maybe projecting abit. Id wager no more than 1 out of 50 (Chinese) GenZ knows who Marx was. Moreover, the US and China are vastly different in that China is growing, ascenting while the neoliberal US is declining, for the most part...
(Near the end) Every worker in *the world wants to be treated fairly and equally, come on now... That in itself doesn't tie US and China GenZ together smh
Do you live in prc? I would be stunned if people there don't know who Marx was.
They teach Marxism in Chinese schools. They know who Karl Marx is.
@@adamrosendahl8090 where are you from, may I ask?
@@rualablhor I am Canadian. My wife is Chinese.
@@adamrosendahl8090 So you studied world geography, right?
Banal host.
When anyone uses "America" meaning the U.S. I listen to them much more skeptically.
It's shorthand. Don't be such a hipster about it.
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