Why More Americans Are Going Child Free
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2023
- In 2022, 43% of Americans surveyed said they’d want to get married in the future. But just a little more than a quarter said they were sure about wanting children. Faced with many financial challenges, more Millennials and Gen Z are pairing up with an intentional choice not to have children. This new trend has led to the rise of a new type of household popularly referred to as DINK: dual income, no kids. So what’s it like to live the DINK lifestyle and will it be the future of American households?
Chapters:
1:25 Reasons
4:08 Disposable income
8:13 Challenges
Produced by: Juhohn Lee
Edited by: Andrea Miller, Amy Marino
Animation: Christina Locopo
Camera by: Zach Levenson
Supervising Producer: Lindsey Jacobson
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Additional Sources: U.S. Census, The Financial Gym, Harris Poll, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
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Why More Americans Are Going Child Free
If you want people to have kids, then stop making it impossible.
Thats the plan. The US will end up lime China. Not because of a one child policy, but because people want a life of consumerism.
Not anyone else’s fault you can’t get laid lol
It's not impossible in the US but having kids is financially challenging compared to other places like Europe where they have universal healthcare...
There's quite a few social programs to help with raising kids actually, especially if your family is lower income. Stuff like CHIP for example covers kids medical expenses.
Many people just don't want kids because they don't want kids. They want to spend their money on themselves and most have terribly poor financial intelligence., complaining about how they can't afford rent, but will buy the newest Iphone anyway.
The funny thing is a lot of people who site cost for why they don't want kids will buy dogs or cats, both which can have hilariously high expenses as well, especially if they get sick and you have to take them in to an emergency clinic.
@@Skitskl33 The upside of dogs and cats, compared to kids, is that they won't eventually abandon you with a big fat "thanks for nothing".
So if am single income, no kids… I’m a SINK
Exactly!!! I was saying the same thing!!
I love this!!😂😂😂😂
I’m a sink too
🤣😅🤣😂
😂😂😂
"At your age I had a house and 3 kids" yes grandpa, back when houses costed peanuts
If most Americans can't even afford college education, healthcare, housing, and transportation, then how will they raise children?
You haven’t been to the more affordable states like Oklahoma. What you quoted is right now.
@@blackworldtraveler3711
Why the fk would I want to live in a christofascist state like Oklahoma? 🤣
@@LucareonVee
Never asked you.
Was posting to someone else.
@@blackworldtraveler3711
Was meant as a general response as well as a personal one. 😉
Older Generations: "If you can't afford kids, then don't have them"
Younger Generations: "Okay I guess we won't then"
Older Generations: *Surprised Pikachu face*
It means don’t have too many kids, don’t have 6 kids if you can’t afford it
They don’t mean “ don’t have any kids”
@@PodcastClips23969 What's the issue with having NO kids? It's smart financially.
Honestly, I don't think many older folks care. We will be gone. Those making that decision will live with the ramifications of not having children whatever they may be.
They don’t care, the rich at least don’t because they can afford to have kids. The working class will be replaced with immigration, it’s already been decided.
This idea of Americans or anyone not being able to afford kids is quite hilarious. Just logically think back five six seven generations people were extraordinarily poor on average and they had huge families. My mom had 5 kids in state of Massachusetts second highest cost of living state with an income of $13k 20 years ago. We survived just fine.. The real reason why people don't have kids is the opportunity cost kids are very expensive up front for 18 years but they pay off in the long run me and my siblings have bought my mom a house multiple cars paid for medical bills etc and we won't let her going to a nursing home when the time comes. Right now a nursing home cost about $120,000 per year so your net worth will be gone really fast when you have no one to take care of you and you're in a nursing home. And who cares about net worth anyways if you don't have kids? I suppose you could donate it to charity or something but you won't be alive after.
People who are perfectly capable of raising children don't but people who have no business raising kids do.
Perfectly capable? These people are insane. Thank God they stay away from being parents
@@michealarbey7423 Thoughtful, rational, well paid professionals with a high net worth. What exactly do you find "insane" about that?
Idiocracy!
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@libertarian4323 you could've just described everyone on epsteins list. They're all thoughtful, professional, yada yada. If you don't know red flags when you see them, that's your problem bud. I know a LIAR(S) as soon as they speak
It's depressing. I have one friend who became a dad at 21 when he was pretty much broke, due to getting a little carried away with an exchange student who was very very catholic. That relationship didn't even last 2 months. Still, he loves his daughter more than anything in the world. Pity he doesn't get to see her much, and child support eats away an considerable portion of his modest income.
Got another pair of friends who have much better jobs and have been in a stable relationship for 8+ years. They plan to have multiple children ...eventually. Though, they're waiting an awfully long time for the perfect conditions. In the meantime they fill the void with cats. I just hope they don't wait too long. They would make great parents.
I don't find the Idiocracy intro sequence very funny anymore.
Most of us can't even afford a house how the hell are we supposed to afford having kids?
It’s called rising to the occasion. You’d be surprised how many millions have figured it out.
@@Jake-Day Yeah and you'd be surprised how many millions more don't and rely on government assistance/live paycheck to paycheck. Look how many kids get to grow up in high crime rundown neighborhoods because of parents having them when not financially stable. But hey rise away.
Inheritance perhaps?
You'd be surprised how many people are living in their cars. @@Jake-Day
We don't the immigrants will be having enough children to keep our country running.
I was doing this 40 years ago, today I am dying alone and I’m fine with it too.
Staying childless by choice allowed me to experience places and things others never see in one lifetime. Life was rich, to say the least 😊
Exactly; having kids is like having a pet. It's a choice, NOT an obligation. It's especially tough if you're the child of Asian immigrants, where the family tree plays such a huge role in upbringing. Your immediate family questions and looks down on you for not having children.
Sometimes the trash chooses to take itself out. We live on through our offspring, or we go extinct
@@nahor88 I’m not Asian and my mother always wanted grandkids too, she just couldn’t see how her whole life was almost a century of suffering and demanded I created other beings to come join her and myself, who never wanted to come here either.
Misery loves company for real, what a shame.
@@nocomment4848 the most selfish comment about kids.
@@hinthegroove9740 agree. I grew up in a poor country where that mentality was a thing. Not anymore.
As a teacher AND as a mother, if you are on the fence about becoming a parent and simply cannot decide if parenthood is for you, err on the side of caution and stay child free. I have so many students whose parents strike me as the kind of people that should have worked on themselves before deciding to have kids.
Many! It is a sad situation…
Kids are a biological process. Just happen. People are way more complicated.
What about having kids and then giving them up for adoption?
@@zonkbadonk3937 AWH HELL NAWH!
@@zonkbadonk3937that’s irresponsible. Adoption is trauamatic for many adoptees and many end up abused in the system.
In many countries including the United States, there has been a failure to create an environment that is conducive to having and raising children.
This infomercial for investing is a trip. I get your point, but that isn't the point of the video. Its still greed putting kids on the financial chopping block. It turns out the rich/cnbc don't want to pay for your kids either. The current external cost of kids is money they could spend somewhere else as well...hmmm, to lower taxes further for the rich?
@@markstewart4501 We're pretty much sacrificing everything to feed the stock market, as though money is the only thing with any value.
@@fnorgen To concur: isn't the nations motto, some cold war troupe, "Capitalism".
People are finding out that money, money making, amassing money, new financial vehicles that cause market bubbles that destroy millions saving and retirements EACH TIME...isn't a "value system".
In the cliche of the donkey and the carrot it is interesting to hear what people pick as their metaphoric place holders.
As it is, family isn't really "family" unless they make it....make what again?
Greed is our Nations Motto...check out our nations/kings "new" clothing. Our country is naked, and it only takes those that have the "courage" to say what they notice...nothing more.
You're absolutely right. Everyone says "have kids" but no one is doing anything to make kids genuinely affordable. They're all more concerned with their FAKE "home values" and endless no limits at all costs self-serving lies and nonsense. Then try to cover it up with FAKE "free market" and FAKE "religion."
exactly nailed it@@fnorgen
"This will be bad for the future economy" OK so then society needs to make childcare affordable, raise wages to a living wage to match inflation, productivity, and cost of living, lower income taxes, etc.
Taxes will go up to pay debt.
@@afgibnasina The national debt is a scare tactic used to create more austerity.
NOT HAVING CHILDREN IS STUPID, JUST LIKE THE WOKES.
DEPEND ON THE STATE TO TAKE CARE OF YOU, WHO WILL PAY YOUR PENSION IF THERE ARE NO YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WORK?
IF YOU DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU WHEN YOU BECOME A GRANDPARENT, IT IS STUPID TO DEPEND ON THE STATE WHEN WE SEE EVERY DAY ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY IN NURSING NURSTS
@@vergaghulio3993immigrants
@@afgibnasinathat’s going to happen anyway
I have one child, and his daycare cost is as much as our monthly rent. Yes, rent…because we can’t afford a house. And we can’t afford another child. If I was being faced with this now, I’m not sure I would have a child.
I pay $190.00 a week for one child and I totally understand 😢
Keep your legs closed next time 😂
what ? i used to pay 300$ per week for childcare@@jermainelatimer804
Don't you have any old people in the family to watch them?
@@OrganizationXIII Yes very intelligent response 🤨
All the comments trying to insult people for not wanting kids is so weird and unsettling 😭
Pathetic people 😂
(The insulters)
@@freedommatters7677 lmao what 😭
@@cookiegirl891 the people insulting need to get off their high horse 🤣
@@freedommatters7677 lmao yeah they do 😩😂
It’s because we don’t have any money. I’d love to have kids but refuse to raise them in poverty.
What u call poverty? Me and wife have 139k in savings we having a kid
@@dwaynebrooks2764 kids costs 310k to raise to 18 at TODAY's wages, per kid. It will likely be double that when they reach 18 if you start now. Good luck.
@dwaynebrooks2764 well kiss that savings goodbye
@@dwaynebrooks2764ok be humble
@@carnivorepolice5-0 Children don't cost nearly as much as you think they do + if the happiness of having a child is irreplaceable.
Not having kids doesn't mean you ll be rich. You can be poor and not have kids, but it is better than being poor with many kids
Exactly. Some people see kids as a way of getting money. Kids are an investment and it can turn very bad very quick.
Stop lying to yourself. Majority of these people will grow old and seriously regret not having kids. The data on this is clear. If you think money will replace the biological inclination to procreate, you are unbelievably naive
@@grumpycat9065 literally nobody is having kids to get more money besides a very, very small percentage of the population.
I’m a Childfree woman that’s only ever been poor. Adding a child to the mix I would not survive.
@@grumpycat9065I think it's not the right mindset to think of children as an investment, I think we should think of them as providing a future for humanity
My kids haven't even been CONCIEVED yet, and I'm already trying to protect them. How? By not putting them on this planet until I'm damn well good and ready. Food, medicine, shelter, a comfortable bed, toys etc. I want to have those things lined up without ANY problems before I decide to have any children.
Since I can't even afford to feed MYSELF right now, I think it is safe to say that it'll be irresponsible to put them on this rock just so they can suffer. That isn't fair. They're better off floating around in the ethers, being one of the stars or whatever, than being here just because I thought it was a "good idea" to procreate.
Yeah and not to mention global warming and impending climate doom. My wife and I decided on not having kids. I'm getting my vasectomy soon and my wife is getting her tubes tied.
Preach, preach!🎉
Amen! You practically wrote exactly what ive written in another videos talking about this matter! I am devastated.. and angry !
what you said is the sad reality that we face every day
@@KitsGravity Your future children as well as YOUNG PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY ALREADY EXIST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE!
Just because you are married, that doesnt mean that having a child is required. .
I was raised to believe that “if you can’t afford have children, don’t.”
Kids of the 80’s and 90’s will remember that we had required classes meant for the prevention of pregnancy. Looks like the lessons stuck.
Yup. I can vouch. A lot of us waited for the day when we were financially secure. That day never came.
These days most young couples can't realistically afford children.. So what's the alternative, only have rich people propergate.. That would be the end of civilization as we know it.. Who's going to work labor jobs and low paying jobs?
@@jackhemphill7257 Who will work low paying jobs? AI and robots! :D
I think of rainbow on him❤
@@jackhemphill7257robots. It seems to be the reality. Most low wage jobs will be replaced by robots
These days even finding a partner is very hard, let alone having kids.
Leave the country
@@guillermocas2877
Women are the same everywhere. He'd just take the spot of another poor man. Where would that guyy flee to? Cant keep running to poorer and poorer countries
All women do with their status and wealth is raise their standards even higher, to the point of no one being worthy, but that's da man's fault for not trying harder. Save for an android wifu, or whatever. Try nonut for a mont, it'll unblock chakras, and you will realize you are giver of love, not the receiver, in as much the world will tell you otherwise
@@Ren33469 in the 3rd world. Gender roles are much closer because of hard times. Go to chile or Peru where divorce rate is 3%
@Ren33469 what wealth? Don't you see comments from women and men saying they don't make enough?
No kids for me!!! It's the greatest decision I've ever made. I sleep so peacefully.
Same
Me too!
Love being able to come and go whenever and at a moments notice!
Aaaaannnd, when I have emergencies, I don't panic about not having money to cover whatever the situation is!
No kids, no regrets.
😎🍻
Children are not just financial obligations but require constant emotional support.
This part! I had to stop myself in my tracks when I said "I can't afford them" to my stepma. I explained more simply by saying I can't afford them emotionally either right now. Still working through trauma.
@@kamanijefferson638 Exactly. There are plenty of rich people who have kids and buy them everything they could ever want, but they don’t emotionally support their kids, nor are they physically available for their kids. Kids are a huge responsibility and unless a person is capable of being financially, emotionally, physically, and mentally present for their child, they shouldn’t have kids. It’s not like I’m saying people have to be 100% on point, cuz real life doesn’t work that way, but everyone who wants kids or chooses to be a parent needs to be on a certain level with regards to these factors.
the part a lot of folks don't grasp. if you're not financially and emotionally sound, best to think twice and think again before having them.
Exactly this. While I'm single and definitely can't afford children, my realization on not wanting kids came when I was 22. I was living at home still and was between jobs. The brother of my mom's boyfriend at the time had aome family issues and needed us to look after his two little girls, aged five and six. Since I was going to be home for the next few months...the job fell to me, even though I had my reservations.
The little girls were very sweet and polite. But I hated having to tend to them at all. I became the very kind of "parent" that shoves an iPad in a kid's hands and lets that entertain them (except, it was my laptop and approved sites for Nickelodeon and Disney games. They played so much, though, that the computer got a Blue Screen of Death from the motherboard crashing). I began to resent being responsible for them, wanting to just keep to myself in my room. When they finally left after spending the summer and the start of the school year with us, I have never felt such relief in my life. I knew after that that I never wanted children and the next time I was asked to babysit, I would say no.
I'm super happy as well that my brothers don't have kids and I hope like hell they don't. They're anti-vax conspiracy theorists, and I just know any of their children would suffer medical abuse (such as not going to a doctor for treatments) by them. Which then leaves me to either turn a blind eye to that, or speak up but assuming the child was removed, it would be expected I would care for them...and I admittedly do not want to. I could only hope the child's mother's side of the family is more sane. But, that dark timeline so far hasn't happened and as we're in our 30's, I'm really hoping it never happens and both have realized that they don't want kids.
arguably that is even more important
Reminder for those with kids: a childfree lifestyle is not an attack on you or your family. People are allowed to make the choices that make sense for THEM.
"Reminder for those with kids: a childfree lifestyle is not an attack on you or your family" But it is, purposefully refusing to replace yourself in the labour force means that you want the kids of those who have to pay more tax and work more hours to accomodate you when you become a useless consumer in old age.
@@dekev7503 The planet is overpopulated. If only there was a way to have people from those overpopulated countries move to yours, to replenish the workforce. When someone comes up with that solution, we should call it immigration.
@@dekev7503 Immigration is the answer. The population of the US keeps going up despite birthrates going down. Immigrants are going to be the ones who do all the work in the labor force.
@@dekev7503 you sound stressed
@@dekev7503 they owe those with kids nothing
Happiness > Having kids just because friends and family and society say you should
I'd like to add : Never do anything because others say you should. What do they know? Nothing.
Misery= not listening to the elders who know best but you think your smarter than everyone else until your shown your not. The happiest person in the world is Grandma you know why because we all luv Grandma and luv is the key to life but you go on ahead and die alone. So when someone dies alone does anyone care? I've seen plenty of people do great things because of family and I've seen a lot of miserable people alone cuz they thought they didn't need anybody but we all need human contact from birth to death but you go ahead try your experiment because you know so much. History teaches us otherwise.
@@kirkdogg007 actually I'd say this couple is anything but lonely and in misery. In fact I think they're thriving and living their best lives.
This lifestyle will only provide short term happiness. I used to live in a condominium full of childless single middle aged women, and trust me, they were not living a great life. When you don’t have loved ones in your life, that’s when you spiral. And I’m sorry, but your friends don’t provide the same type of companionship that family does. And a relationship that doesn’t have kids in the picture is highly likely to fail. When you get older and spend long weekends and holidays alone with your dog, you’ll be changing your definition of happiness.
@@yashnigam6name 1 thing that isn’t “short term happiness”
People that shame others for purposely not wanting to have kids for financial reasons, are the same ones that shame people with kids that they can’t afford.
Don't kid yourself. Children is a financial burden, and this is absolute truth.
Life is a burden
@@OrganizationXIIIFact!
Life itself is a financial burden. So defeatist of you.
@@imperialmotoring3789 nice, then you can have a child and have a good life.
I can live on SS that is taxed from your future childrens' income.
So nice of you, thank you.
Your grammar is a burden
Take it from a teacher himself, having kids aint for the weak. Children will put a huge financial/physical/mental strain on you. And a lot of parents these days dont want to actually parent or dont know how. If you’re not ready to step up and do the work of being a mom/dad then you dont need to be having kids and that’s completely ok.
Yep. I'll just let the immigrants build society anyway. North America cares more about immigrants instead of their own citizens.
I raised a daughter, practically by myself due to her mentally ill mother (which was diagnosed years after). The thing that surprised me the most is once she reached adulthood, I learned it is at least as much work (and more costly) as when she was a child. No one ever told me that part. Having a child is a lifetime commitment, not just for 18 years. If you are not suited for it, do everyone a favor and don’t have kids. Looking back in hindsight that is now 20/20, would I do it again? Probably not. However, there are rewards that I received that made me a better man which I do appreciate now. If I never would have had a child, I would not have had these experiences. I have a grandchild now and that experience is like a “do over” without all the responsibilities of being the parent.
I wouldn’t say “ for the weak “. Sometimes not having a kid is smart
The thing is, I don't even know how a family really works, due to my family story. I don't want to have a kid to experiance the same. Growing up in constant fight and arguments destroys someone. Not everyone is made for kids I believe
Love it. It's not for the weak. It's a generation. of weak boys and girls who never grow up.
Being a parent is overwhelming and overrated.
If you come from a family with no generational wealth, do not have children unless you like to struggle.
It is EASY for people who are ACTUALLY READY FOR THEM
Most of the time people just get talked into it/get pressured instead of doing it by their own decisions
It's not all about money. I don't even want to be in the same room with a child, let alone raise them.
😂😂😂
It's about money.
@@robertagren9360 Projection!
Thissssss
@@robertagren9360it’s not all about money even that is a huge part of it. I just don’t want kids I’m not good with them I don’t have the patience to put with there crap and them wreaking my stuff. I would probably mess them up somehow so I’ll pass
I'm a married father. If you do NOT want kids, it makes sense not to have any. Children change priorities and cost a lot of money. People should plan before having children and make their decision.
My grandma raised 7 kids on one income
@@-whackdand do you think you could raise 7 kids with 1 income in 2024?
@@DonardoHenry depends on the income. I mean if you are earning 6 figures monthly or have a different approach in life or a frugalist or other factors. Then the answer is yes. You can never be prepared for anything. Even a single man/woman who is financially stable can get sickness, natural calamity disaster, an accident, a freak accident, a war etc. You cannot prepare for those things.
Six figures doesn’t get you very far when childcare is close to 2k rent above 3k per month.
Oddly enough, my mom said she didn't want kids-but my dad did! Thank you, Father! He worked two and three jobs and somehow the money found him . . .
I whole heartedly support people who choose to be childfree. Not everyone has the ability to be a good parent. I used to work as a teacher; most of the parents I met were horrible people raising little monsters. I got so tired with dealing with them I quit teaching altogether.
There’s so many entitled parents in the comment section here. Ugh, I can’t even imagine dealing with them in real life smh.
As if procreation is contribution on its own 🙄 There’s a lot of lost children today due to the amount of over-parenting control freaks leading children down an obsolete path. So many irresponsible parents out there flooding our foster care system too. Which only offsets our monthly donations to children in need. Many of us are trying to work together. We need more responsible people on both sides here smh.
Yes. This.
I feel you but the people that don’t Want kids are probably better parents than illegals popping them out every year by the dozen
@@SugarMilk99 as a foster kid how dare you I had bad things happen to me but I choose to be alive and I work and have my own place and I am thankful for being alive
Sounds like you have a lot of self loathing
@@Liberalcali What are you talking about? I donate money to my local facility. So how dare I donate money? 🤔
This was all I said about foster care “So many irresponsible parents out there flooding our foster care system too. Which only offsets our monthly donations to children in need.”
It’s not okay for children to go thru what you went thru. Yes, some can rise above but not all children from foster care make it. It’s not like parents ask their children if they want to be born into that situation. You deserved better than that and the other children that are still in foster care deserve much more as well.
Cite where I said otherwise …
Having no kids in your thirties is so freaking liberating.
You think THAT'S liberating? Try having no kids in your sixties!
Some of my cousins are in child free marriages. They didn't make the choice, it was made for them, but they seem to be happy things turned out that way. One of my cousins was born without a uterus and another cousin had cervical cancer and had to have her uterus removed in her 20s. Neither of them made efforts to pursue adoption. They were able to find husbands that were not interested in children.
For every 1 couple like them, there are 10 couples popping out babies with no money and no plan.
Yeah.
That is a fact and it has been for too long.
This. All of it. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Well that's being happy. 95% of the population was peasants in the middle ages = no money. And they had a lot of kids. No plan needed it can be argued.
@@PistolStar21 no wonder the middle ages lasted so long
The 300, 000 bill is assuming the kids are healthy. People don’t factor in health issues for either kids or parents and the financial devastation of medical bills.
This is the main reason that I want to move outside of the US...
The $300k bill also assumes you have to pay for childcare all the way. If you have family (grandparents) who can help, it can go a long way towards reducing that burden.
@@damnjustassignmeone not to mention that all the subsequent children can use clothes and toys from the older child(ren), making the cost that much less. And what's the price of seeing your children and then grandchildren being born?
300k is not all at once and it is adjusted for inflation of 18 years. If you spend 2k per month on rent, that's 24k per year, but that turns in to 40k per year after 18 years of 3% inflation.
@@briankuhn7396✌️ Good luck!
Dad told me to raise kids cost a million bucks each, thank you dad! married 28 years & still child free.
It would had paid off itself if you were looking at each child as a bond. But the issue is that we're too late in the game. So we are just not able to pull out a bag of cash out off our ass from previous to next generation wealth since we been too selfish.
The idea that you earn your own wealth is killed by the families who don't play that game.
Having kids is a choice. They do not choose to be born. If you can't raise children, DO NOT MAKE THEM.
This is impossible to know until you actually have kids lol. You may THINK you know, but you never do.
@@guyincognito9410So have a little HUMILITY and dont pressure everyone to keep having children
@@guyincognito9410 that's why nephews and nieces exist. Hell, even young brothers or cousins.
@@R_wir3 those can help, but it’s absolutely not the same. I have tons of nieces and nephews, but was never gung-ho about a family until I had one.
If you're smart, then it would still be a good idea to make them but then simply give them up for adoption in the form of an open adoption.
The wife and I make 200k a year and will not have kids. We enjoy life with very little stress. We carry zero debt and buy what we want within reason while investing heavily for retirement. We know we are "sacrificing" the enjoyment of a traditional family but we are fine with that. We don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks of us. Watching people struggle with tight budgets and fighting over money and kids isn't something we are interested in.
The traditional family is what got us in this mess in the first place!!!
If you’re ever in the market to adopt, I’m available! Lol
You guys have your💩together ! Love it !
We're in the same situation...plenty of money no debt....no regrets! We live in a high income neighborhood and the kids I see here are F'ed up....not all but many. Just weird kids compared when I grew up. They seemed depressed.
You can still have kids and be financial. Just need to be smart about it. Family is value, money is not.
@@KE-yq2eg You can stfu and move on because their life decision isn’t your call. Besides, child-free adults are totally capable of donating to children in need on a monthly basis. Stop worrying about how others are contributing to humanity. Worry about yourself 🤦♂️
Blame global leaders. You want your citizens to work and pay taxes, yet you do not support them with child care, education, health care costs, you can't have both ways. I only had one child when wife wanted 3, zero regrets, couldn't afford to have 3. Now I'm planning my golden years with wifey.
Well, one party is trying. Under Clinton a child tax credit was created that has been greatly expanded under Biden.
It’s something like 2k per child. Makes it more doable.
Preach
Childcare should be compensated I believe. Swedish model is a good one to copy.
@@ivannna252 Swedish model is the best on earth by far. Why can't we replicate?
You don’t have kids so they take care of you when you’re old. You don’t have kids to not be lonely when you’re old. That mentality is what have people struggling financially by having kids they can’t afford to have.
It's such a selfish mindset as well. "I'm going to bring this kid into the world so they can be a servant to me later on. And if they don't look after me like how I planned, then they are ungrateful!"
We can’t even afford a house how tf would any of us bring a child into the mix that’s selfish
Watching whats going on in the public schools now is the best birth control.
Yessssss!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Thank you! I don't want my 3 year old daughter singing "Pound Town". 🤢
Vote for school choice
If that’s not the truth, then I don’t what is.
The reason people don’t have kids is because they’re brainwashed into not having them so the government has an excuse to flood your country.
Roughly a third of people never wanted children, or are ambivalent. We are finally acknowledging that. Increasingly, people are having children when they want to, and when they can afford it. This is, in every way, a positive thing.
seems to only be happening in the west unfortunately, and maybe somewhat in China
that's a very positive way to spin the rapidly decreasing quality of life that americans are experiencing. It's incredibly disturbing that people are getting priced out of a basic biological function
@elenachristian9860 I come from one of the European countries with very big welfare state. If childlessness continues at this rate there will not be a welfare state as i know it in the future for me, not to mention the decreasing economy and quality of life that comes with it. The solution cannot be to import half of the countries future working population, both because the quality of migrant we are attracting is not on par with the native population but also because welfare system would have to accommodate those people as well with even more migrants forever and ever.
In my opinion in the vast majority of cases people have always (for the most part) had children because they wanted to and they could afford it (Back in the day the families that could afford it just had huge number of children). Now people are prioritizing here and now instead of long term state of their land/family/legacy after they are gone. It feels like people simply don't care what the world looks like after they die.
Because republicans value dubai and india how can you justify leaving kids in this nightmare homeless untaken care of when in reality your parents arnt taking care of you and your expected to raise another human in this society that eats kids up and spits them out in 3rd world nations missing a kidney or a liver gutted so quick kids are doing it like skinning a pig for supper o but google liberals keep shutting me up vs hiring me google send me a decent pc ill make a youtube channel if i can run it the way i want speaking fact hate and fear see as a american i dont feel safe republicans are crazy and this nation is falling apart but this bs happens over and over and over in this 2 party system
@@illliiiiillliii6265We had stelar welfare in a much smaller population decades ago, there's no point in thinking having a smaller population in total automation era is a bad thing.
Also, people are actually thinking way more about future now then in past - is just that we learned to care more about individuals then stupid political symbols that only serve elites.
Folks didn't care about breeding in misery, sending their kids to dangerous jobs at 4, wars and lack of food.
We worry about our kids having no jobs due to AI, fscing another pandemic, enviroment problems, bizarre realstate prices, inflation, widespread drug adiction and even WWIII.
The couple is really supportive of each other....I really admire their strong relationship
These people have the types of jobs you see on house hunters on HGTV. "I'm a beekeeper and he builds mechanical keyboards and our budget is $500,000."
For real!
Those were hobbies not their careers.
Must be nice for them to be rich
I'm NINK myself (No income, no kids) or just broke 😂😂😂
Hope you become AIEL (Abundant Income, Enjoying Life)
Are you male or female?
@@Mrkevi123 are you a female?
😂
lmao same :(
My wife and I recently celebrated our 40th anniversary and so many people told us you will regret not having children. Hasn't happened yet.
How many dogs in the household?
wait tell your old and alone
@@gerhardlarsen779 I know a lot of people who are old and alone, despite having children. Don't count on it.
@@gerhardlarsen779there are so many old people who did have kids and still died alone. It’s a misguided decision to only have kids so you won’t be lonely in your old age.
@@bleepelectronic9106 Heck, my grandparents spent way more time with their peers than either me or my parents. Of course, I do the polite thing and stop by for an hour or two when I'm in town, but that's like nothing!
I'm autistic. I decided not to have children because I have no patience on dealing with them! I usually raise dogs because they're better to deal with.
yes taking care of myself is already a lot when facing burnout, factoring a kid in a whole new life is a lot to carry
if you're autistic, don't have kids PERIOD. I have no patience dealing with autistic people, just like you have no patience for dealing with children (most likely due to the fact that you're autistic)
Not sure what autism has to do with patience that's just you.. Nice excuse though I suppose.. Sad people like you blame everything on autism..
If you're autistic, do you depend fully on your parents or how does that work out?
@@Ignaciombrmany autistic people are high functioning and, with some reasonable modifications, are perfectly capable of living on their own.
My one son is grown and gone. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't have children.
Because it's stressful?
If you hate being broke and stressed, not having kids is appealing.
Actually having kids equals being broke and stressed most of your life.
Or you could rise up to the challenge, make more money, and become the type of person that could handle extra stress 🤔
Just get a couple of 100 lb dogs instead.
@@anastasiassecret3837 I would never work a minimum wage job. Money is created by adding more value to marketplace. We started a home business so that created more money. Every year there’s more money being created so there’s actually more opportunity. Have to think bigger than just working a job.
@@scottwojtas677 what sane person counters "i don't want more stress" with "rise to the challenge" lmao. Willingly suffering is not the goal
The US government does not incentivize people to have kids. Wages have not kept up, and kids are not as subsidized as before with costs rising for everything.
Not having kids just makes more financial sense in the current environment.
Exactly!
THIS!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
That first sentence isn't actually true. You receive a large tax benefit if you have children. Understood that it may not be adequate compensation but there technically is a built in incentive to do so.
@@Barboy0 You mean the government takes a little less money from you ...but they still take almost the full amount .....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Barboy0 Having children is not just a financial cost but also an opportunity cost. Imagine all the time used to raise children could've been used to further your career or business prospects? The cost is priceless!
Considering that the world is overpopulated, not having children is a responsible choice.
Bingo! Anyone who’s can do basic math can figure that out and yet we’re still the dumbest species on the planet because logic should trump the rainbows and unicorns but unfortunately it does not. When the world loses 2-3 billion people then I’ll consider having kids since cost of living will go down since there won’t be a massive housing shortage like now along with other things.
Dinkleburg from fairly odd parents was named after this. Timmys dad hates dinkleburg for all his nice stuff but the reason they can afford it is due to them having no kids
Bed twerp
Most Americans these days are going child-free, because they grew up seeing how their own parents struggled financially while trying to raise them. My mother worked two part-time jobs because my father was a deadbeat. I don't believe in marriage, but I would like to have children as long as I can afford it.
mrVomora - no don't have children on your own without a spouse. i know too many people who have kids on their own (adopt, or women who can't find a decent partner have IVF); it is extremely difficult especially if you don't have siblings or a parent to help out. Why have children in a world of 8 billion all on your own?
If you don’t believe in marriage then you have no business having kids.
Agreed. If *you* don't want to get married, then *you* have no business having *your* kids.
@@AmericanScout-USA she just said her single mother struggled if there are two parents in the home that might not have happened
@@Liberalcalithat's bad why can't I just have no kids.but you know I just wanna make my inclodom up I will just end up going for aw for man n ai GFS for man in future
Child care is criminal in this country
At the least, child care is immoral in the US just like elder care. The truth is humans don't like the responsibility of either one, especially elder care. The pursuit of money is the only thing that interests humans, that and dominating others.
So is family court
Have children only if you can actually take care of them yourself.
What's stopping you from starting a child care service, then?
@leok7193 only to get destroyed by govt funded by Capitalists and companies using every trick illegally to force me out of bussiness
Before you write a nasty comment about childfree people, think for a second: Do happy people need to criticize other people's life choices? Do they get this angry when someone makes a different choice than them? You are not writing that comment because you are trying to convince others, you are writing it to convince yourself. You know you haven't put enough thought into having kids and existence of people that did and picked a different option is causing you uncomfortable thoughts, so you lash out and cope.
indeed its called cognitive dissonance
If you want kids, Please adopt. Use your resources on kids without families instead of making new ones.
How about no. I have my own.
Nah I'm not interested in raising other people's kids.
That would be much less eugenic, though. Especially if you're smart.
Sad world we live in. People who should be having kids aren't having kids while people who shouldn't be having kids are popping them out like nothing.
a person who shouldnt be having kids is one who doesnt want a kid
Literally the plot of Idiocracy
@@iamdragonettatoo Idiots, the lazy, people who don't contribute to society.
@@iamdragonettatoo someone who can't afford to provide for their kids
@@eduardo_Skywaller1032How would that work in states that have forced birth?
They forgot to mention that many childfree people by choice don't want kids simply because they don't want to be mothers or fathers. I have simply never wanted to get married or have kids since I was a teenage girl. Marriage and kids are not things that I find interesting or that would bring me happiness.
because the point of the video is about people who figured out that raising kids would cost time and money. if you don't want to raise kids for other reasons, then that's a different video.
I'm the opposite, since I was a child I dreamed of getting married and having 5 children, today I only have one daughter
A Married Mother Works Very Hard. And If She Has A Job Outside The Home, Which I Hear she Needs One Or Wants One, Forget About It.
feminist lies you will regret it when you cant have kids and no man wants you
@@milton9639 good for you. That’s not everybody but you would be a great parent because you’re aware you want to be one. These people are aware they don’t want to be one because they would not be as good of a parent as you. So you should have the kids, you desire, and they should have the life they desire.
This administration is putting many families in difficult situations. A lot of people are financially struggling to live, put a roof over their head and put food on the table. Things are getting worse these days, if you don't find means of multiplying your money you might wake up a day to realise you didn't plan well for yourself and family.
I agree with you and I believe that Professionals are currently dominating the market since they have access to both the necessary strategy for making money in this industry.
That's awesome to hear. I invested 5k in Robin hood about a year ago and it steadily went down, now my portfolio is down to $800. I don't know what to do and i am in between jobs
@@Florencecoxx Understanding your financial needs and making effective decisions is very essential. If I could advise you, you should seek the help of a financial advisor. For the record, working with one has been the best for my finances.
I’m Glad i stumbled on this. Please, if its not too much of a hassle for you, can you drop the details of the expertise that assisted you and how to get in touch.
@@Florencecoxx I get guidance from *Sarah Alma Martinez* Most likely, the internet should have her basic info..
I absolutely love this for women. No more having motherhood forced onto us and being subjected to ruining our bodies for society brownie points. Happy for all the childfree women out there ❤
Yes! We are finally waking up
It doesn't have to ruin your body. And some people want to have the unique experience and relationship that a child can bring, which you won't understand without one yourself.
@@ruleaus7664 I am not interested in understanding ❤️ pregnancy sucks the nutrients from your bones and body. It damages your teeth, changes your appearance, and leave you disfigured and can even have prolapsed pelvic muscles. Lots of women die from pregnancy related complications and have to go through intense Post partum depression only to care for kids and their husbands at once while sacrificing their passions they had pre-children. Giving up my body like that especially to a man that could leave you any day after all that would be my worst nightmare
If they want to endure that good for them,
stay safe
@@ruleaus7664 I’m not interested in understanding ❤️ there’s a million negative possibilities for being pregnant and raising kids for over 2 decades. I’m good but to each their own :)!
Shut up.
When you're thrown into the real world with absolutely nothing and forced to constantly be on "survival mode", having kids is the LAST thing on your mind. Looking back I wouldn't change a thing because I did what I needed to live. Life is sacrifice.
Exactly
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
@@tw8464u are also a LOSER
"Life is sacrifice"
That's the problem!
@@marissa._ Agreed. I don't see the joy in bringing additional humans into this world when even the most competent ones are prone to struggle. There's no real achievement in having poor, suffering kids. The whole thing just sounds like a miserable simplistic joke that everyone keeps on doing. No thanks.
Even if I wanted children, there’s no way I could afford it in this economy.
Poor people who chose to have kids then. They are all in trouble apparently. If the economy is the same for everyone, does it mean most of people should not have kids either?
maybe figure out a way to make more money. McDonald's is hiring at 18 an hour.
@@gouveia305 Homeboy ain't trying to make a general statement
@@gouveia305 if the struggle of working multiple jobs to support your kids is worth it to you then go have them. Just don't complain and don't tell us we didn't warn you
wrong concept
Americans are having less kids because housing and food have taken all their money. No money left to raise kids. And having kids to live in poverty is heartbreaking. No parents want their kids to live in poverty.
In Germany, health care is affordable and granted (birth won't be 40k), childcare is affordable, maternity leave is paid, so it is a lot more comfortable, yet I would still prefer to spend my hard earned money on myself. I didn't study for 6 years for nothing, I want to travel, go shopping, be able to afford nice things. The biggest factor for me deciding not to have kids is giving yourself up for a child. The sleep deprivation, the 24/7 care of a child for over a decade, always putting your needs and wants behind theirs, and not being able to be spontaneous. With kids, everything takes ten times longer, and if your kid is crying because it doesn't like the museum, your day there is over. I've been a babysitter for years, I have tasted what it is like, and only for small periods of time compared to parenthood, and I don't need more, despite me loving the kids I babysit to death. I need a lot of time for myself and I have the financial and societal freedom to do so, unlike a few generations ago, and I will make use of that
Yep you are completely correct a child will steal 20 years of your life and most of the work is on the woman while the man sits back and plays with the child the woman will have to cook for the child change clothing and everything, it's basically a second job at home and the worst thing is when the kid turns 13 there is a good chance it starts to hate you and insult you every day for no reason.. No i really don't need that and im a man myself that is in the 20's
I just want to say that I greatly envy you for living in Germany. I spent a year in Darmstadt at the technical university, and I miss it. My country is a dumpster fire. 😣
In a lot of developed countries, couples are not having children. But then the reality would be, more immigration to offset low birth rates. Increasingly, citizens of these countries don't like this, but it is what is it 🤷🏿♀️
yeah at the moment immigrants are key to the US, otherwise our population would be declining
Immigration actually is not a long term solution to low birth rates. There's a lot of statistical research that proves that.
We get Mexicans immigrating here all of the time so we're good.
That won’t continue for too long tho. Even countries with high population are seeing decline in birth rate. In near future these countries will start trying to hold back their young people from migration.
Don't see that happening any time soon. Even if mexico don't do it, other 3rd n 4th world countries will have 0 problem doing it ie asia, mid east ext
Kids? In this economy? 😂
So funny 😂😂😂
Why would I ever want my kids to deal with the trudgery of this life? Not having kids is my biggest finger to society.
My childhood made me not want to have kids. Having kids is a personal choice. It's not for everyone
This would seem to be a result of slowly suppressing salaries over the last 50 or so years for 'average' Americans. Perhaps an unforeseen consequence.
Spot on
Plus younger generations is drowing in student debt room cant declare bankruptcy on student loans
You hit the nail right on the head there.
@@yoleeisbored Thankfully they can't. It would mean the rest of us pick up their tab, in the form of higher costs for those who DO pay their bills
I'm starting to think it wasn't unforseen 🤨
30 years ago my wife and I made the same decision. Then she was diagnosed with m.s. in 2001 and her perspective on life changed. We agreed that if either of us had a change of mind the other would be in support. I just turned 60 and lost her 2 years ago to complications. It's not always easy but I am very thankful to have my 2 daughters and all the memories of fun camping trips and life experiences. But i also agree that noone should be shamed about their decision regarding whether to have or not have kids. I found myself on both sides of the decision at different points in life.
Thank you for sharing your story with us and I’m sorry for your loss ❤️ I hope you and your daughters are enjoying the holiday season!
Thank you for sharing, and good luck to you brother.
First my deepest condolences 💐 and second thank you for theses world as a 30 year old I’m in a crossroad the I have no idea with path I should take first
If I WERE going to have children, it would NOT be in the United States. I'd first expatriate the USA and SET UP residence in a country that has a proper social safety net that gives its citizens actual benefits of citizenship instead of bilking and exploiting us from birth to death. Ex. basic goods and services like healthcare, fair housing prices, and full public education in return for paying taxes instead of funneling our money into corporate bailouts and endless wars of imperialism. It's absolutely CRAZY to me that anyone would take on the financial burdens of having children in this country, where you can't even leave a hospital with your baby without being followed by a $30,000 bill- even if it's stillborn. Add in all the healthcare costs, housing and income inequality and insecurity, student loan debt, and the additional costs of education children after high school and the entire concept of raising kids in America is absolute, utter insanity to me. I would NEVER bring children into such a low standard of living and regressive government as this. Not under any circumstances. As it is, I'm planning to get myself out as soon as possible.
I don’t understand why people think having children will guarantee they will be taken care of by them when they age. My aunty is a very good example, she was married once and only had one child (son). Her husband passed away just a year before he was going to retire and since then my aunty said life was too short and retired as soon as she could. Her only son was in his late 30s and was still living with her in her apartment to look over her but the problem is it was affecting his dating life. She was very strict and conservative and did not give him and his girlfriends any privacy so after a while he married someone else from a different state and left her to move in with his wife. She now suffers from Parkinson’s disease and has no one left to be with her. It’s actually very sad but it’s a cautionary tale that having children cannot be treated as a safe guard or future investment.
life is brutal and violent and painful and lonely and pointless. why bring a kid into this world of survival of the meanest.
I’m 54 and I’m childfree . I see no problem. I work all year and have my vacation in Europe . There are too many children already .
I have 2 kids. I love them with my entire being, they are my world, AND they're expensive and exhausting and cute and challenging and my legacy. Those often conflicting points are real and valid. I don't regret my kids, but I also don't begrudge anyone who chooses not to have children.
100%. My life was awesome before kids. And my life is awesome with kids. The two versions are completely different from each other. Don’t blame anyone who prefers the former.
@@hellokaumea8315 Burden on who? I love them, they love me, at least I strongly believe they do, they're young. My decision to become a mother has nothing to do with them. And I don't impose expectations of gratitude from them for the decision I made.
@@gorgthesalty Community college, at least for the first two years, is a more realistic option. No need to spend 130K x 4 for college tuition.
@@lichi1244evaburden on them, the kids themselves.
It's also passing obligation to them to care for you when you age. One shouldn't have kids just to leave or have a legacy.
One should have kids because they want them (and can comfortably afford to raise them fine).
Been thru this growing up and still am going thru it and I wouldn't want to pass such a burden to my kids if/should I ever decide to have some (likely not). (I was...shall we say groomed to be into a certain profession, health care industry/providing, by most of my fam who're into this one.)
I'd rather my kids live their lives how they want. I'm only there to cheer them on, support them, advise, teach, and guide them thru the craziness of life when needed. (It's entirely up to them if they want to return to me the care etc i give them this way.)
@@treasurechestofsorts you bring up some interesting points, I grew up in a culture of complete obedience, gratitude, deference and expectations, no questions asked, and as an adult I have rejected a lot of that.
I have children because I wanted children. The legacy is simply that they're my kids, my future. I love them with all my heart, my husband and I do our best every day for them to keep them loved, safe, supported, fed, clothes, etc. I do that willingly as this is what I wanted, the life I chose. They will inherit whatever I leave for them, to do what they choose. After all, I won't physically be here anymore, right?
And they don't HAVE to take care of me when I'm old and/or incapacitated in some way. Ideally, if our relationship always remains strong they may WANT to, but I don't raise them with that expectation. As a parent, I think about all of these things all the time.
You develop a financial and economic system that makes it, on the one hand, impossible to financially support one child, let alone several, and one which allows workers to depend on their nest eggs rather than their children to get them through retirement, yet at the same time this same system REQUIRES abundant procreation to sustain itself. The height of contradiction. Not our faults the system itself is inherently unsustainable.
THIS!!!!!!!!
Absolutely 100% this!
We’re living alone together with no children and life could not be better. We’re free to focus on one another and I love my husband with all my heart ❤️
😎🍻
He's a homosexual
The only people who shunned me for not wanting kids… are people who have kids lol. And when I try to explain myself with finances, maturity, personal goals, etc. the answers they have is always dismissive. “Yeah but when you have a kid it changes you.” “Yeah but you can’t say you don’t want one because you never had one and you don’t know what it’s like.” “Yeah but that’s pretty selfish to not want to bring kids into this world.” But those same people curse the fact that they can’t do things in life they wanted to do before. They can’t travel, go to the gym, go out at night, buy a car they wanted, invest, save, etc. why would I want to have kids when it’ll make me hate the limitations having kids place on me? I think people who have solid reasons why they don’t want kids is RESPONSIBLE. Because I’ve met plenty of people who have admitted they regretted having kids 🤷🏻♂️
I especially love the whole “you don’t know what it’s like” argument. I always respond with “Ok, so if I have a kid and realize I don’t like being a father, can I return the kid to the rental store after the trial period and no longer be a father?”
@@LucareonVee and watch them get even more offended and defensive lol. Just because I don’t know what it’s like doesn’t mean I HAVE to find out. Like I’ve never went skydiving but do I ever want to find out? Not really. Does it mean I have to do it? NO.
I am a Boomer with one child and a grandchild. I can see both sides of the argument. In my parents time, my father could work, and with one salary we lived a middle class lifestyle. Those days ended 40 years ago. Today, as a retired person, I could not afford my own retirement so I moved to an affordable country that I could on my pension. If I was a young person today, and wanting children, the reality is I must have 2 incomes to be able to afford a comfortable income to raise children. But with a divorce rate of at least 50 percent, the outrageous cost of housing and so on, I don’t know what the solution is. If I was a 20-something male today, I would probably get a good paying trade, build up my income, then move to a country where it is affordable and the society is friendly toward me. I don’t think, in its current state, the Western countries have much to offer the younger generation.
YOU: “I don’t know what the solution is”
Me: Respect. Great post and best of luck✌️
yeah divorce rate is wild
And theb your child is in a country that doesn't give you much income. Great plan Walter.
voice of reason. dropping lots of truths there, boomer
So take what you can and leave huh?
Bring back a middle class lifestyle and Ill have kids. Ya'll billionaires don't need all the wealth and happiness. Unlimited corporate growth is a fallacy.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of a cancer cell.” -Ed Abbey
Go increase your income.
@@jwonz2054 commenting while sitting in mom's basement😂
@@terwin151 Nope, it is possible to increase your income and get better jobs.
Stop making excuses and cutting down others to keep living a minimal life.
Actually, living standard does keep increasing. The problem is, limited resources such as land becomes more and more expensive.
The secret to happiness: Never sacrifice anything that disrupts your own pleasure, validation, identity, needs and comfort, including but not limited to: Fighting for one's country, having children, getting married, staying in *any* relationship the outlasts your personal satisfaction, etc. There is no greater meaning in life than satisfying your own needs by moving from one comfortable experience to the next until you die.
As a European I can totally understand why less Americans would want to raise children than Europeans. Here's some reasons why that I already know of and some of these weren't even mentioned in this video:
- Healthcare. Healthcare costs in the US are out of control compared to european costs. Giving birth to your child in the first place is completely free everywhere in Europe but can cost up to $30K in the US. And since your kids don't make money it just means more people for the parents to pay insurance for and to pay for any accidents.
- Parental leave. Some Americans probably don't know what parental leave is but it's basically the time you get off of work (if you're parent) for you to spend that time with your children so that you can bond with them. Where I'm from it's possible to get up to 26 weeks off work for parental leave. The US doesn't guarantee workers time off work for this. I also heard that the US has the 3rd highest childcare costs of any country in the world. So yeah more money spent on childcare in the US.
- And lastly, university costs. The US has the most expensive universities in the world. No other country comes close to it. 9 out of the 10 most expensive universities in the world are in the US. The average cost of 1 year of university in the US is around $25,000. In Europe, apart from the UK, universities here are either free or at a really low cost. Why? Because our taxes pay them off.
In summary, parents would save so much more money with kids in Europe than in the US. In the US would struggle to make ends meet unless you're in upper class.
lol what are you smoking? $25000 a year? I mean you might be right when you average it out but the yearly cost for room, board, and education at a private college is billed at $65-80k. I think mine was $67,500 my first year alone and went up from there. I was lucky enough to get sufficient need and medit-based aid in addition to work study and some parental support that is was affordable and I paid of my loans within a year of graduation thanks to living at home but jfc, $25000, we wish!
I live in the USA but my parents are from Europe. Life in Europe isn't any better and almost none of my cousins or siblings in Europe married or had children in Germany.
By the way, you can get UNI free in the USA. There's plenty of grants, federal and state grants that pay for education, each state operates differently.
@@richardwildlife88-wj6kl MA is now using the millionaire tax to fund free tuition at state universities and like you said there are grants, but there are a LOT of people who can't get it free which is why we have our student loan/debt crisis.
@@richardwildlife88-wj6kl Sorry only saw this reply now. "Life in Europe isn't any better" how though? My parents are from France and they have both lived in the US. Both of them say that the US is only good if you have a lot of money. They moved to Ireland with high paying jobs. Despite Ireland being a very expensive country they were still able to afford raising me and paying for my education and healthcare. My mum has a friend living in Philadelphia with her husband and two kids. They have pretty similar salaries to that of my parents. Yet for them after they've paid the costs of childcare, mortgage, health insurance, etc they don't have any money left to the point where they can't even go on holidays. The things that they pay for are much cheaper in Ireland and thanks to that my family and I have been able to go on holidays many times. Also how is life in Europe similar to that in the US? I mean I do know in Europe, everyone can afford healthcare, it's hard to find people in their mid twenties who still have college debt, public transport is phenomenal compared to in the US, childcare is much more affordable, crime rates are way lower, you get weeks of paid time off of work per year, and quite a few other things. So again how can life in Europe similar to that in the US? To respond to what you said about the people you knew who didn't marry or have children in Germany: You can't really use marriage as an excuse. Although getting married at times is expensive, in case you're unaware marriage rates have been declining everywhere in Europe in the last few years. And as for your buddies who didn't raise kids, the only possible reasons that they didn't have any is because of personal reasons or because they have low paying jobs. If they have well paid jobs, it being too expensive isn't an excuse.
I’m 57, divorced male, no children and retired.
My time is spent in the pursuit of caring for people and animals.
My life is rich with time.
I’ll never be lonely or without security.
This perspective relies on a belief that the current government and economic system will hold throughout your life. Look at countries that go through economic collapse, mass inflation, ect. If you have no family to help you; you will be extremely vulnerable to the chaos and economic collapse.
@@john-nl8iuIf he does truly "care for people and animals" hes invested in his community, and thus not an outsider.
Having purpose is key… #kudos
@@john-nl8iu He is 57 years old. He is more likely to die of stroke than "economic chaos". Besides, who is to say he has no family? Cousins are family.
@@MrCPPG cousins are relatives. Your wife and children are your family. He will regret his decision at some point if he hasn’t already. Notice he tries hard to convince himself?
Within the last few years, many folks have started to center not just survival but quality of life in their choices. And there is so much diversity in how people view their sense of security, life satisfaction, and relationship satisfaction.
Best comment EVER! Respect✌️
and we need to let people be themselves and not force societal norms or pressures on anyone.
Love this comment, yes! Very much agree that there is a lot of diversity in what people will find in terms of life satisfaction. I love my job and make less than 25k per year (my hubby makes much more so we can afford it) and we have two kids, both under 5. We don't have fancy cars, have phones that are over two years old, our TV is older than our 7 year relationship, but we have a home, supportive friends and family, and get to have a date once every few months. Yes, children can be incredibly expensive, but many people prioritize other spending habits than how we do.
I buy almost all of my clothes secondhand, we eat at home most nights, and take one "big" vacation a year that lasts a few nights. We have cheap hobbies.
We feel fulfilled, though I will say we got extremely lucky and bought our house in 2016 before the housing cost spike. I think we would have waited on kids longer had we not been as lucky. We are almost mid 30s.
Perfectly stated!
Amen to that 🙏😢
In the past women were expected to have children and men were expected to be married and be a provider. There was a lot of social pressure to ensure compliance with these social norms. Times have changed and personally I think this was the best thing, that happened to men. Our mental hardwiring does not make children a neccessity but rather a luxury.
kids are expensive, the sacrifice and dedication is not worth it
Your ego speaking
Grow up
Give them up for adoption in the form of an open adoption!
Having kids involves responsibility and affordability is a question. The society and the government brought this
The people brought this, by voting constantly for ever more government benefits, that has made cost of living ever higher. In 1960, in the U.S., a man could work as a clerk at a hardware store and support a family of 4 kids and stay at home wife in a modest house with one car, one TV set, one phone, etc. Then the Great Society and Vietnam came along and put the country in such debt that now we're all working to pay the interest. This was the stupid voters who did this.
Don't worry our new immigrants have enough kids to keep our country running.
If I WERE going to have children, it would NOT be in the United States. I'd first expatriate the USA and SET UP residence in a country that has a proper social safety net that gives its citizens actual benefits of citizenship instead of bilking and exploiting us from birth to death. Ex. basic goods and services like healthcare, fair housing prices, and full public education in return for paying taxes instead of funneling our money into corporate bailouts and endless wars of imperialism. It's absolutely CRAZY to me that anyone would take on the financial burdens of having children in this country, where you can't even leave a hospital with your baby without being followed by a $30,000 bill- even if it's stillborn. Add in all the healthcare costs, housing and income inequality and insecurity, student loan debt, and the additional costs of education children after high school and the entire concept of raising kids in America is absolute, utter insanity to me. I would NEVER bring children into such a low standard of living and regressive government as this. Not under any circumstances. As it is, I'm planning to get myself out as soon as possible.
you mean capitalism
@@patrickboyd3364it is quite fortunate for our economy that we have higher rates of immigration than many would prefer
My wife had a fetal echocardiogram. This is just an ultrasound with cardiologist who looks at the screen for 30 mins or so. The bill came out to 16,000 dollars, after insurance it was 1500. I make a very high income but for the average person this is insane.
Thanks to crazy health billing
@@josecfdc3240that’s just how expensive healthcare really is. The average cost to just give birth is a down payment on a house.
I'm an echocardiographer. I don't do fetal, but I know how.
That test takes a few seconds and pays the tech
as a Canadian, this baffles me. The US does not have its priorities right.
Yikes! 😮💨
"This will be bad for the future economy." Because there's inevitably going to be less people for corporations to exploit.
Yeah, that's not how that works.
Actually the elites and corporations want you to be childless and valueless materialist blobs. It's easier for them to control you and replace you with illegal immigrants and machines.
@@tomp6685 thats how it does. keep cope posting
8:19 meanwhile there are plenty of children without families in orphanages that no one is adopting.....
That’s actually really sad
People that say “who’s gonna take care of you when you’re old?” … sometimes children don’t care about their elderly parents. They end up at an elderly home 😂😂
And what about future nurses at hospitals or retirement homes? "No kids" is not the future because without children there is no future.
@@VincentPeerlinck migration will take care of that
@@VincentPeerlinck Have you seen the advancements in robotics? Coupled with AI, we will have plenty of permanent care givers for the elderly even with a shrinking population. This idea that we won't be able to take care of our aging population is absurd. Not everyone wants to have children and our current economic conditions makes doing so almost impossible. People can't even afford houses with the drastic increase in prices, how do you expect them to afford children?
The human race isn't going extinct. We have 8 billion people and that population is still continuing to grow.
@@VincentPeerlinckgo back to Sunday school, grandpa. You’re hardly coherent.
Well, if you have the money to take care of yourself in old age.....
My thing is children don’t ask to be here… they don’t ask for whatever living circumstance you have so if you can barely feed your damn self why are you even dreaming about having a child? If you are drowning in debt or living paycheck to paycheck or homeless or just plain struggling, please reconsider bringing an innocent child into that mess. That’s why a lot of us aren’t just popping out kids.
Amen!!!!!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯
we say older generations didn't have to deal with high living costs...etc. However, there were plenty of families with no money and kids have to grow up dirt poor. it's hard to have children in any generation. Definitely, my parents shouldn't have a house full of kids!
It's also the reason why poverty rises in US when poor people keep breeding like factory 😂😂 Have you seen the recent news yet? It's amusing!
@paodbdauw I grew up poor and most of my friends were dirt poor. Most of my Friends and myself are much better off than our parents. Being poor teaches many life lessons and helped me form determination and the ability to have a endless list of life skills. I had lots of fun growing up in a house of two sets of twins, one year and a day apart. There was weeks we ate salmon and crab for dinner every night because my dad was a financially dumb fisherman and still needed to feed the kids.
Oh it’s not because the current reality of the world we live in feels like a waking nightmare at all times and because of this that we don’t want to bring more people into this nightmare?
Why does the society make it seem like having a child is the norm??
Because they had been conditioned to think so.
Indoctrination of BS
Because it is the norm. Childless couples are losers and freaks.
@@savagewaifu4694you: you seem bitter and insecure
Also you: all childfree people are losers and freaks
🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
One major point is that if both parents work (which they would have to in order to financially support a family in the current economy) requires childcare during the day which knocks out a massive chunk of your paycheck. Living on one income just isn't possible anymore unless you're in the top percentage of earners. It's not that I don't want kids, it's that I don't want to raise a child where we live paycheck to paycheck and I don't get to see my kid grow up due to working 60-80 hours a week to make ends meet.
Exactly this! It's all finances for like 80+% of people. Most kids are being born into welfare nowadays.
I second this, and personally relate to this as well. Having a roof over my head is already a struggle, let alone more mouths to feed.
My family is not in the top percentage earners and we live in one income with four kids. Also most of our friends do as well. We homeschool. It’s all about priorities.
I came to the US as a child and both my parents worked 80 hours a week to support my sister and I. That being said, I am nevertheless glad my parents decided to have kids even though I grew up poor. I’m happy to be alive 😂.
the simple solution is to tax those who dont have kids to the point where is cheeper to have kids than not.
Most people who decide to not have children actually may just be more level headed than those who do. They tend to think about having kids more carefully and seriously. For that, their decision is respectable.
They go against their natural senses and cope by replacing a baby with a dog. They are the perfect New World Order slaves. Hahahahahahaha
That's why humans aren't levelheaded creatures then. The ones that are don't have kids and die out.
Or selfish
@@smithblack100 I bet you know someone who has kids and is very selfish and someone who doesn’t and is generous 🙂
It's social conditioning. The jevvish eIites don't want whytey breeding. They want to replace them with cheap third worId labour.
But we live on through our kids. Those who don't breed are genetic dead ends.
In India, same trend being picked up. Imagine raising kid in most populated country where it so competitive for your kid in exam to get seat in good college and getting job. You actually do favour to your kids for not bringing them in this world.
One inarguable fact that statistics constantly show is that, in every society where people have a CHOICE of whether to have kids, a ton of them choose not to.
Why do the majority of people commenting feel morally superior to people who choose not to have kids and enjoy their life. Why do other people's choices bother them so much? Just live your life and let others live however they want, simple.
THIS!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
Because they know they've had children for selfish reasons and are projecting.
1. People are broke or barely getting by
2. Dating apps - casual dating isn't a good foundation for family planning
3. Red pill and Anti-woman podcasters destroying male-to-female relationships
4. Social media escorts destroying regular women's expectations of what a man is (i.e., he needs 6 figures)
5. Women know if they have kids, even if they're working... they'll be responsible for more of the childcare
6. If the relationship doesn't work out, now the woman is stigmatized as a "single mom"
7. Healthcare is expensive
8. Childcare is expensive
9. Rent prices and mortgages are expensive
10. Salaries are not pacing with the cost of living
11. Kids become adults and DGAF about their elderly parents
12. Life is stressful enough as it is
Nice summary.
you forgot about feminism and the toxic aspects of much of that
Don't forget about feminism. Also when women can divorce a man for any reason and take half the money and kick him out of his own home if they have kids.
@@nosequiterssure feminism and not male’s mistreatment.
This pretty much sums it up. Millenials and gen z will be the generation, on paper that is, that will have the least amount of “participation” in population growth. Everything about modern western life is extremely toxic ( in my opinion it’s the most toxic it has even been when you look through history). Politics, economy, relationships. It’s all gone downhill over the years. Pretty soon we’ll be in a situation like China where the population starts to decline dramatically which if I’m not mistaken they are almost at a point of no return where their entire economy will basically collapse because of how old their population is.
I have a kid, and I don't blame those who choose to be child free. I'm middle class and don't think I'd be able to afford another one. Let the billionaires have 6-7 children. The middle class have enough struggle with all the taxes we have to pay.
The world is already over-populated - Some billionaires shame those who choose to be child free because there's not enough workers and cheap labor in their companies. Less people means less profits and the end of capitalism.
@@SSGoatankskinda puts the overturn of Roe v. Wade in a new light... We can't have poor people aborting future workers I mean future taxpayers I mean blessed unborn babies
@@wjb4578 Breed damn you! The next quarters profit forecast depends upon it!
@@SSGoatanks get a job
Taxes.... I hope your not American 🤣🤣🤣. Americans complaining about taxes is hilarious
I'm 34, and have simply not wanted kids because I have no desire. Been that way since i entered adulthood and it hasn't changed. And today's economic climate just further doubles down on my decision.
I'm single and cannot afford rent, why bring a child into the world when I'm already struggling?