I would use a digital mixer instead of the sound card & DAW. If you got a cheap digital mixer with 4 auxiliary outputs & 12 inputs, for under $600, you can have 4 bus mixes (4 different mixes). The best part is you get a stable & reliable solution you can even use on your live gigs. Last thing, inorder to have a really quiet practice session, I'd have my drummer on an electric drum set. That's also better for recording & quicker to set up & easier to transport. But if you're stuck on the "acoustic drums paradigm", then keep using your current drum set.
I had one at that amount of RAM, took the opportunity to upgrade but noticed no big difference to be honest. I’d recommend using it now, cause you’ll have no big issues with latency, and saving money for an upgrade further down the road (; but you do you bro, tell me what you ended up choosing later on
old guy here, not to over state what seams obvious to other old guys, bothering the neighbors is part of the point! hearing the band at a high volume seamed intuitive and necesary for the 'sound' lol, but yes we all have the need to practice quietly to not bother everyone, and its quite ambarrasing when the police arrive, carry on i just couldnt help but share that
Yep, I love loud amps and loud drums, but the peace of mind when I start rehearsing and hearing everything clearly on my headphones and just my voice and drums come out of the room.. is priceless 😂
Thanks dude-a-rino. You helped me relax knowing i can eventually jam in my apartment with a buddy and not be a dick about it to my neighbors. That smacking on the edrums tho will forever be there tho.
I wonder why no one invented one mixer (without a need to be connected to computer) with power cable that has let's say 4 xlr/jack inputs and below additional inputs for headphones with all separate buttons chanel/master chanel. It's ridiculous to buy separate devices for everything that will create latency. I guess no one thought that some people would like to have silent jams on headphones in flats and all would like hear mastertrack without monitor in their headphones. There is something like for example zoom livetrack l8 but too expensive... 😢
This is exactly what I wanted to do, not sure why I found it so hard to find this video or some information on it. I plan on going down the Focusrite route of a 6i8 - can I achieve the same output of 6 inputs, 4 headphone outputs I can monitor? Thanks
Yeah! Definitely a topic that’s hard to find content on. I had a lot of trouble getting this system working by myself, and took some time, so decided to summarize it all into one video. As far as I can tell, you’re going to do fine with the focusrite 6i8 bro (; great audio interface!
ok, so your working in logic, are you noticing latency? are you blending direct in with returns? what kind of electric drumset? i dont understand term shoegaze, video to explain it seams over simplified, is radiohead shoegaze, sorry if that seams like a dumb question
lol no it’s not a dumb question, Radiohead is not Shoegaze, My Bloody Valentine and Nothing are some examples (; latency basically depends on the specs of your Mac.. I don’t experience any noticeable latency with mine, I’m not blending direct signals, it’s all through logic so I can run some reverbs and compressors to rehearse. We used the Roland HD1, now we’re just using a Tama acoustic drum kit mic’ed up. Both should work, but electric drums are more silent
hey, i still did not get how to act with it as actual IEM? i mean how to listen each band member in real time and than route it between mixes. is there a way to do kind of hw routing? point say input 1 to bus 3 etc
So I’ve done this. We’re using backing tracks as well. My vocalist has a slightly different mix so he can hear himself better. I’m across an issue where we have one song sounding perfect. All instruments sound great then we move onto a second song and the mix doesn’t sound good at all. Like we need to re level everything. I’m not sure exactly what I’m missing here. Have you come across anything like this?
Wow that’s difficult.. Does it happen to everyone in the band or just to a specific headphone mix? If it happens with everyone I’d guess there might be something wrong with the DAW you’re using. If it happens only to one headphone mix, then it might be a faulty auxiliar cable or a faulty headphone extensor maybe.. That’s hard. I recommend testing all these “variables” to see what part of the equation is not working. If you find out what’s wrong feel free to ask me for more help (: I’m not a pro but I’ll do my best to help you out
@@manualofalternativemusic appreciate that buddy. It totally is making me scratch my head like wtf. We’re gonna try again next time without any backing tracks and see if it might be them cuz it doesn’t make any sense if the first mix we sound fine then it falls apart. Good call on the extension cables for the headphones. I got some cheap Amazon ones. Thanks
@@manualofalternativemusic hey buddy. We have managed to make it work. Using a headphone amp we route everything. The drums we use direct monitoring to avoid delay. I think until we get a proper digital mixer this is the best way to do it.
that happened to my one of my XLR cables was damaged, im using the behringer splitter to split signal and one goes to the interface and that one was giving all wrong un balanced loosing clarity @@manualofalternativemusic
I would like to get some insight. Im trying to jamm with my friends at home and we already have some basic equipments. Is it doable if all our instruments connected to a mixer and then from there to an audio interface connected to a daw and finally monitored from the audio interface via a headphone preamp?
Yep, it would work, the problem is that you’re supposed mixing all signals together into the audio interface so you’d get the same mix for everyone. It should work no problem, but if you’re looking to monitor yourself with a mix of your own, each with its own headphone mix, then going straight out of the aux outputs in your mixer to your headphone amp would be better. It’s up to you (; do whatever works best
Hi there! Sorry I took long to answer back, but that’s it (: I think you’ve been helped hehe. It’s just a matter of how many headphone outs you’re going to need. My band has 3 bandmates, and sometimes we get friends over playing with us so we need some extra headphones on tap sometimes 😅
@manualofalternativemusic I grabbed this exact set up we play metal and it's amazing 👏 we run through reaper not logic though. I use ezdrummer I can use my kit but I can eq better with ezdrummer no latency at all ! We have 2 guitars, 2 vocalists, a bass player, and drummer the 1and 2 stereo outs seem to not send a signal, but i grabbed headphone splitters problem solved. We also use digital plugs for guitar and bass sounds. We had to buy those just to be clear for people wondering. Sadly those aren't free but they are well worth the money, but like I said it works perfect we love it so a big shout out and thank you from (Dread Reverie) hopefully we will have something to share with the world soon !!! Thanks again brotatochip 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 keep up the good work and stay Rockin
Hello. How does the HP60 work? I am thinking of purchasing it for the same purpose, but I have doubts about its amplification power. Does the headphones you've tried sound good? Doesn't it lack power?
It works like a charm, it’s clean and powerful, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t color the sound at all. Actually, it’s better than the headphones output on my drummer’s Scarlett 18i20 we use to record drums
@@manualofalternativemusic Thank you so much for your genuine opinion on the preamp. I tried finding reviews or at least an unboxing video, but couldn’t find anything. Your feedback was incredibly helpful, and I plan to purchase it soon.
@@manualofalternativemusic yea I did thanks. I had to reset the focusrite to remove any of my previously saved shows. Then it’s been working since thanks. I did have to call the company to help figure it out
so on my logic doesnt show the option " send it to faders " to select the send ( track ) for each individual headphone mixes , any one have the same issue? i found if i. right click theres an option send to faders and it highlights the sends im a bit confused :(
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Yeah dude your accent is like Scottish. Any correlation between that and how you learned or am I just picking shit out of a hat here?
I would use a digital mixer instead of the sound card & DAW. If you got a cheap digital mixer with 4 auxiliary outputs & 12 inputs, for under $600, you can have 4 bus mixes (4 different mixes). The best part is you get a stable & reliable solution you can even use on your live gigs. Last thing, inorder to have a really quiet practice session, I'd have my drummer on an electric drum set. That's also better for recording & quicker to set up & easier to transport. But if you're stuck on the "acoustic drums paradigm", then keep using your current drum set.
They’re indeed a very useful tool, but they were totally out of my budget when I started out. Great solution as well (:
Great video! Which Mac are you using? Processor and RAM?
Thanks! I use an M1 MacBook Pro, 16g RAM and 512g ssd, works flawlessly
@@manualofalternativemusic I actually have that exact same setup, but with the 8 gigs of RAM. Wondering if that will work for me!
I had one at that amount of RAM, took the opportunity to upgrade but noticed no big difference to be honest. I’d recommend using it now, cause you’ll have no big issues with latency, and saving money for an upgrade further down the road (; but you do you bro, tell me what you ended up choosing later on
old guy here, not to over state what seams obvious to other old guys, bothering the neighbors is part of the point! hearing the band at a high volume seamed intuitive and necesary for the 'sound' lol, but yes we all have the need to practice quietly to not bother everyone, and its quite ambarrasing when the police arrive, carry on i just couldnt help but share that
Yep, I love loud amps and loud drums, but the peace of mind when I start rehearsing and hearing everything clearly on my headphones and just my voice and drums come out of the room.. is priceless 😂
Thanks dude-a-rino. You helped me relax knowing i can eventually jam in my apartment with a buddy and not be a dick about it to my neighbors. That smacking on the edrums tho will forever be there tho.
I wonder why no one invented one mixer (without a need to be connected to computer) with power cable that has let's say 4 xlr/jack inputs and below additional inputs for headphones with all separate buttons chanel/master chanel. It's ridiculous to buy separate devices for everything that will create latency. I guess no one thought that some people would like to have silent jams on headphones in flats and all would like hear mastertrack without monitor in their headphones. There is something like for example zoom livetrack l8 but too expensive... 😢
This is exactly what I wanted to do, not sure why I found it so hard to find this video or some information on it. I plan on going down the Focusrite route of a 6i8 - can I achieve the same output of 6 inputs, 4 headphone outputs I can monitor?
Thanks
Yeah! Definitely a topic that’s hard to find content on. I had a lot of trouble getting this system working by myself, and took some time, so decided to summarize it all into one video. As far as I can tell, you’re going to do fine with the focusrite 6i8 bro (; great audio interface!
ok, so your working in logic, are you noticing latency? are you blending direct in with returns? what kind of electric drumset? i dont understand term shoegaze, video to explain it seams over simplified, is radiohead shoegaze, sorry if that seams like a dumb question
lol no it’s not a dumb question, Radiohead is not Shoegaze, My Bloody Valentine and Nothing are some examples (; latency basically depends on the specs of your Mac.. I don’t experience any noticeable latency with mine, I’m not blending direct signals, it’s all through logic so I can run some reverbs and compressors to rehearse. We used the Roland HD1, now we’re just using a Tama acoustic drum kit mic’ed up. Both should work, but electric drums are more silent
hey, i still did not get how to act with it as actual IEM? i mean how to listen each band member in real time and than route it between mixes. is there a way to do kind of hw routing? point say input 1 to bus 3 etc
So I’ve done this. We’re using backing tracks as well. My vocalist has a slightly different mix so he can hear himself better. I’m across an issue where we have one song sounding perfect. All instruments sound great then we move onto a second song and the mix doesn’t sound good at all. Like we need to re level everything. I’m not sure exactly what I’m missing here. Have you come across anything like this?
Wow that’s difficult.. Does it happen to everyone in the band or just to a specific headphone mix? If it happens with everyone I’d guess there might be something wrong with the DAW you’re using. If it happens only to one headphone mix, then it might be a faulty auxiliar cable or a faulty headphone extensor maybe.. That’s hard. I recommend testing all these “variables” to see what part of the equation is not working. If you find out what’s wrong feel free to ask me for more help (: I’m not a pro but I’ll do my best to help you out
@@manualofalternativemusic appreciate that buddy. It totally is making me scratch my head like wtf. We’re gonna try again next time without any backing tracks and see if it might be them cuz it doesn’t make any sense if the first mix we sound fine then it falls apart. Good call on the extension cables for the headphones. I got some cheap Amazon ones. Thanks
Hey there! Did you guys manage those problems? How are rehearsals going? Hope everything worked out (:
@@manualofalternativemusic hey buddy. We have managed to make it work. Using a headphone amp we route everything. The drums we use direct monitoring to avoid delay. I think until we get a proper digital mixer this is the best way to do it.
that happened to my one of my XLR cables was damaged, im using the behringer splitter to split signal and one goes to the interface and that one was giving all wrong un balanced loosing clarity
@@manualofalternativemusic
I would like to get some insight. Im trying to jamm with my friends at home and we already have some basic equipments. Is it doable if all our instruments connected to a mixer and then from there to an audio interface connected to a daw and finally monitored from the audio interface via a headphone preamp?
Yep, it would work, the problem is that you’re supposed mixing all signals together into the audio interface so you’d get the same mix for everyone. It should work no problem, but if you’re looking to monitor yourself with a mix of your own, each with its own headphone mix, then going straight out of the aux outputs in your mixer to your headphone amp would be better. It’s up to you (; do whatever works best
Hello!
Do you continue to use this system for your silent rehearsals?
Hi there! Yep (: still working fine for me
One more question… how does the Presonus help? If you’re doing the individual mix on the DAW, what’s the benefit of it over like a $50 headphone amp?
It's having 6 outputs because there's usually 4 to 6 members in a band
Hi there! Sorry I took long to answer back, but that’s it (: I think you’ve been helped hehe. It’s just a matter of how many headphone outs you’re going to need. My band has 3 bandmates, and sometimes we get friends over playing with us so we need some extra headphones on tap sometimes 😅
@manualofalternativemusic I grabbed this exact set up we play metal and it's amazing 👏 we run through reaper not logic though. I use ezdrummer I can use my kit but I can eq better with ezdrummer no latency at all ! We have 2 guitars, 2 vocalists, a bass player, and drummer the 1and 2 stereo outs seem to not send a signal, but i grabbed headphone splitters problem solved. We also use digital plugs for guitar and bass sounds. We had to buy those just to be clear for people wondering. Sadly those aren't free but they are well worth the money, but like I said it works perfect we love it so a big shout out and thank you from (Dread Reverie) hopefully we will have something to share with the world soon !!! Thanks again brotatochip 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 keep up the good work and stay Rockin
Hello.
How does the HP60 work? I am thinking of purchasing it for the same purpose, but I have doubts about its amplification power. Does the headphones you've tried sound good?
Doesn't it lack power?
It works like a charm, it’s clean and powerful, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t color the sound at all. Actually, it’s better than the headphones output on my drummer’s Scarlett 18i20 we use to record drums
@@manualofalternativemusic Thank you so much for your genuine opinion on the preamp. I tried finding reviews or at least an unboxing video, but couldn’t find anything. Your feedback was incredibly helpful, and I plan to purchase it soon.
Thx for sharing
Not sure but I couldn’t get send on fader to control my ears. Everything was still sending 100 I am using Focousrite claret and octa pre
That’s weird to hear bro.. did you get it fixed?
@@manualofalternativemusic yea I did thanks. I had to reset the focusrite to remove any of my previously saved shows. Then it’s been working since thanks. I did have to call the company to help figure it out
Glad it worked out (;
Does the audio interface need to have direct monitoring or a pre amp built in?
Nope, in this example I don’t use direct monitoring. It’s monitoring through Logic’s built in Headphone Sends
so on my logic doesnt show the option " send it to faders " to select the send ( track ) for each individual headphone mixes , any one have the same issue?
i found if i. right click theres an option send to faders and it highlights the sends im a bit confused :(
Glad you figured it out bro (; setting this up can be quite daunting
Quick question would the focusrite saffire pro 40 work as an audio interface ?
Should work no problem (:
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