Fusion Studio 16 vs Fusion Tab in DaVinci Resolve - Which is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2019
- Fusion in DaVinci Resolve 16 and Fusion Studio 16 have almost the same interface, but there are reasons to use one over the other.
Learn about the differences in workflow, performance, and features and see how you can combine the benefits of both.
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I think this is the only channel where specially the Fusion is being taught in a very organized manner.....big thanks from India....
Could you please explain me how to use Fusion 16 to just render ONCE? Every time I have to use it to edit images using some tools, I always end up rendering 4-5 of them before I stop it, as I never found out the way to specify the number of times it should cycle through the nodes.
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Workflow and Organization: 2:19
Stability and Performance: 8:42
Actual Features: 12:58
Thank you, Gandalf.
Dear friendI have been looking for a long time for some who know their stuff about Fusion within the Davinci Resolve and coming from your channel without any additional charge for the files you provide is Amazing I am glade and looking forward to watch your tutorials and learn from youAbsolutely AmazingMay god bless you and your kind heart for sharing your knowledge to the world, for some of us who can't afford to pay for educationsBest wishes from me to you and appreciated your hard worksMany thanksVeasna Sara
Thanks for the kind words. Really appreciate it and happy to help as I can. 🙂
That first minute was gold, thank you for keeping it short and to the point, just what I needed.
Incredibly helpful. These are the kind of insights you learn from lots of experience. Thanks for sharing.
Your videos are by far the most informative I've seen on the differences and workflow between resolve and fusion stand alone. Amazing, sooo appreciated! Would you consider doing a video on studio player in fusion stand alone? There seems to be little to no information available for this feature. BMD should be thanking / paying you to do this! All the best! Keep them coming!
Thanks a lot and thanks for the suggestion. Yes sounds like a good idea. I have a few other tutorials lined up first, but I think I could do that later...
I recently bought Fusion standalone and it's a breath of fresh air. I had lots of buggy issues with Fusion inside Resolve - back on the timeline I'd get weird glitches, and you inevitably ended up having to render out what you did anyway which is a lot clunkier inside Fusion in Resolve as you have to go into the delivery page etc etc. Fusion standalone has given me no issues. The Fusion connect clip function in Resolve is very useful too. It's easy to get any clip out of Resolve quickly and add it to a Fusion comp. I don't use it the other way however, so I never create a connect clip then use it in Fusion and let it update in Resolve as Resolve needs to render it still and that to me is slower than rendering in Fusion which updates whatever rendered clip you have in Resolve anyway. It's a great tool but still don't understand why it sucks so much for particles.
that was the clearest lesson I have ever had, thank you!
YES! Please do a video on using VFX Connect, its advantages and disadvantages and workflow! Thanks.... and this was a very informative video. BTW, the Resolve 16 Studio license key DOES work with Fusion Studio 16.
Great. So you can start Fusion Studio now with the Resolve license key, without the dongle? I didn't see it mentioned anywhere and can't test. But if that works, that's great!
Wow! So, if I buy DaVinci Resolve Studio can I use Fusion Studio too? :)
I had to trade a spare Resolve license for a dongle in order to get Fusion Studio working. I don't think it's as simple as punching in your license key, though I wish it was.
@@CalebsTunes I bought Resolve 16 software licence and downloaded Fusion studio using the Resolve licence and it looks for licence on loading and works, I can't understand why not working 4 U.
Thx a lot for this video!
It was very helpful!
Very good explanation. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for this video, t'was very helpful with my purchasing decisions. Well done.
Thank you for sharing brother. Really grateful for your channel.
Great analysis, thanks for sharing. Yes a VFX connect video would be great! Cheers and thanks again!
Thanks, already done that tutorial in the meantime. See here: ruclips.net/video/acSAJvTuIi8/видео.html
Very insightful. Now I just needd to learn how to use this type of softsware. My knowledge of editing software is limited to only Photoshop and GIMP. I am quickly seeing some similarities in the format at least.
If you are completely new, you might want to start with a little bit of video editing with DaVinci Resolve. Check out the introductions and free PDF books in the training section of the Blackmagicdesign Resolve product page. After a bit of general familiarity with video editing, you could also check out my free course that you find on vfxstudy.com - just some hints to get started...
Very useful, thanks.
This is great! If you've used AE before I'd love some tutorials on recreating AE stuff inside of Fusion. What is difficult/not possible etc when switching too would be great? (for example, null objects are super tough to recreate it)
Thanks, good idea. But actually am not an AE user... Maybe have to learn a little some day 😏
E.g. what are null objects?
@@VFXstudy They are really powerful
ruclips.net/video/8ei_cj6A2Gg/видео.html
@@deanwcphillips They are the Nodes. They "holding" datas, like LUT or Anchor point.
Nice! The video what i were needed
Welcome - If I remember correctly you were asking for a Video Fusion 16 vs Fusion 9 before. So here is Fusion 16 vs Resolve 16 to start with :)
@@VFXstudy Perfect!
Awesome & Thanks :)
Yes please vfx connect video.
the advantage of the Resolve licence key is that it will work on two machines. so if you need to run two Resolve Studio machines but do not need Fusion Studio standalone, then the licence key is best. if you need Fusion Studio, then you should go for the Fusion dongle. in our case we have one of each, since there are three of us, but only one (me) needs Fusion Studio. as a side note, i should mention that one of the two main reasons that we need the Studio version is that you cannot import 10 bit footage without it. we have GH5 footage at 10 bit, and without Studio, neither Resolve nor Fusion will read it. you do also get more transitions and many other nice things with the Studio version. you also get the ability to collaborate on the same project (but i have found this non-trivial to set up).
Thanks for sharing. Are you sure regarding the 10 bit? It's not listed on the feature comparison, but also I remember using DPX and EXR files with 16 bit in the free Fusion version some time ago. I would think that it should be possible though I haven't tried it in Resolve. Regarding the effects library in Resolve agreed, there's more available in the Studio version compared to the free version.
@@VFXstudy i am not sure where i read it, but specifically i recall that only Resolve Studio can play 10 bit H264. i will gladly call BMD on tuesday (after bank holiday easter monday) and check. this affects us very directly, because at max res, the GH5 records in 422 10 bit 4k, and this will definitely only open in Resolve Studio. i have tried it in the non-studio version and all you get is audio. as the GH5 is such a popular camera (deservedly so) i think this is significant. if you record in 8 bit, Resolve non-studio may work, but i have not tested it. as we are trying to do cinema quality green-screen keying, we are going for maximum quality - if only we could get 444 Raw from the GH5 we would. however, i doubt that will be offered as a firmware upgrade, more's the pity. for that, we shall have to wait for the BMD Pocket Camera (which i am told is back ordered to october 2018 in the UK).
at 5:20 you mention that in Resolve, you will have to go back to the project and fish out the Fusion comp, but, as you mention at 7:10, you can export any fusion comp out of resolve so that it becomes a standalone fusion comp. (as you show) the operation is in File > Export Fusion Composition. given that you have to save a comp in Fusion anyway, this does not seem like a very big impediment to going between Resolve and Fusion (and i am a great believer in making things easy and seamless, so i do not say this lightly!)
Nice explanation .
I just installed Fusion Studio and my DaVinci Resolve key worked fine!
Yes, that's the case since v17.
Fusion studio 17 can be installed with License Key
Correct, I'll publish an update to this one next week
Can you export the scene with the camera, markers, and plate after 3D camera tracking in Resolve/Fusion? To be used in Maya and other software for 3D layout and VFX
Hi Alex. Yes, that should be possible. Look into the FBXexporter node, that can export both 3D geometry and cameras from Fusion into FBX and other 3D formats. A tracked camera from Fusion should be no different than a manually created/ animated camera in a 3D scene. I assume there is something Maya compatible in the export list. I don't have much experience with this tool yet, but I remember people discussed some issues and workarounds with it in Resolve 15 with this tool. In Fusion standalone it should be fine but if you run into problems in Resolve you might want to check the BMD forums on this tool.
Thanks again, I'll search for the exporter tool. Standalone camera trackers are quite expensive and if the BMD tracker is at least ok and can export the scene, then I'll be golden =)
I have 16gb of memory, R7 3750 cpu, and Nvidia GTX 1650 - Barely capable of video editing.
I use both programs. I normally use Resolve, and make minor Fusion edits if I need to. If I need a major Fusion edit like major greenscreen stuff or particle generating, I will save and exit, and go render it in Fusion standalone. Seems to work the best for me.
Yeah, your specs are not ideal for Resolve. Especially the RAM for Fusion, so there you can use more with Fusion studio
Resolve feels like Autodesk Smoke but much easier to use.
and of course Autodesk Smoke $1,545.00 /year :D
That's cool. Yesterday I develop a motion graphic sequence on Fusion tab. I don't have Fusion stand alone and don't want to go to After Effect, I start liking node system more. The issue is Fusion tab do not have playback music :( it is so hard... And $299.00 for Fusion SA it is not an option right now. Some solution to workaround music playback?
Oh, never really digged into this. Not sure if there is any workaround to get it directly in the Fusion tab of Resolve, but nothing I'm aware of. In Fusion Standalone I believe there should be an option for some limited formats at least. If you want to check, there's still the free version of Fusion 9 available via the BMD support website.
Hey, what kind of mouse are you using? It looks ergonomic but not bulky. I started having issues with my wrist, I guess it's the case why you're using a non-conventional shape mouse, don't you?)
Hi Alex, it's the Mojo Silent mouse (vertical mouse). There are different vertical mouses available, also from Logitech and others. I don't have wrist problems yet but can see where they are coming from and I find this type of mouse very comfortable. I chose this particular model because it's relatively quiet and I don't want too loud click sounds in the tutorials ;)
Thanks =) I'll google this one)
So working on more complex projects seem to be best if I go outside Davinci Resolve 16 into stand alone Fusion 16, then back again to Davinci Resolve. Sounds like Adobe Premier and After Effect to me!
Yes, but with a proper need-based compositor.... So maybe Nuke is the better analogy - also regarding "complex project"
All depends, with a good machine and thanks to some of the recent improvements more and more is feasible directly in Resolve and I think the gap will get smaller in time
at 6:17 you mention the problem of Fusion not liking MediaIn and MediaOut when copying a comp from Resolve, however one can now use Loader and Saver in Resolve instead of MI and MO. i have not tried it, but perhaps that will cure the particular problem.
Correct, you can. But than you are linking again to the filesystem and do not link to the media pool and back to the edit timeline - which presumably is the main purpose in Resolve. Also Loader and Saver in Resolve only support a subset of file formats. Mainly the dpx and exr sequences but not all formats you can load through the Media Pool I think.
@@VFXstudy interesting! as i mentioned, i have not tried this yet, but no doubt i shall have to soon.
If you have resolve studio 16 or 17 license activation, you can use fusion studio too. I am doing it at the moment.
Correct, that's new with Fusion Studio 17, it now accepts the Resolve license key. Before 17 Fusion studio only accepted the dongle.
Thanks for the confirmation VFX Study
hi, I using davinci reolve 16 free version on linux. I cant change the UI like Docking and undocking etc. Please help.
Don't have a linux installation at the moment. But isn't there a Fullscreen menu item under the Window menu in Resolve?
tell me in Fusion Studio 17 no sound where to turn ?
May be new to Resolve Studio 17 and Fusion Studio 17 beta versions, but my activation card (not dongle) allows me to run both on the same workstation. No longer out of luck.
Wait so you can use your resolve 17 studio code works for fusion 17?
@@dukebozikowski3801 Yes. If you have the activation card, you can activate both DR Studio 17 (and later) and Fusion Studio 17 (and later). USB dongle will continue to work with both as with prior versions.
I have an issue / question. I cannot get Panasonic .MXF to be interpreted properly in Davinci fusion tab. I tried for 2-3 months now, read everything I could.
Are you saying it working in the Resolve Edit page but once you switch from Edit to Fusion tab it's not showing anymore?
That sounds weird. Maybe try optimized media instead. Or maybe I misunderstood what you were trying...
@@VFXstudy it is showing, but it gets resized and then going back to edit page or color page, it is zoomed down.
@@VFXstudy do you have an email I can send some screen grabs. To tell you the truth, I have no idea how to solve it properly, other than doing a work around that I have with using a background node and a transform node. Which shouldn't be
@@jeffrey8154 shouldn't. Fusion should get the original media solution and it should look the same again on edit if you don't perform anything. Try proxy/optimized media if you think it's codec related. You might also want to check the BMD Forum - maybe there's some specific issue going on
@@VFXstudy This has been the case ever since fusion was added, but also Resolve has always had issue with Panasonic MXF, it has gotten better since version 12.
Is Fusion Studio a good place to start with VFX as a beginner? Thanks 👍
You could even start with the free version in Resolve or the free Version of Fusion 9 as a beginner. If it's right for you, it depends: Do you want to learn compositing - then yes, it's a great tool. And for VFX, compositing is at the center and good to understand even if you do stuff like Mattepaitning or Particle Syms later. Regarding the choice of the tool: Fusion is good but is not the industry standard at the moment. If you plan on working for a major VFX studio you probably need to look into NUKE - the commercial version is pricy and there are pros and cons but it is simply the dominating tool at facilities such as ILM, DNEG, etc. If you are just learning or working on your own, you might not care about that and Fusion can, for the most part, achieve the same tasks.
@@VFXstudy Thanks for your reply. I'll start with fusion within DaVinci Resolve and see where it takes me ;)
is fusion studio faster then the on in resolve because I have a powerful Mac but fusion is sllllooooooww thanks
Not necessarily. It starts faster than Resolve and has a bit less overhead and crashes less frequently for me. Also Resolve by default brings everything in 32 bit float, which is Resolves architecture but isn't always necessary. In Fusion Studio you can load Media with 16 bit float for instance. The individual tools should work pretty much the same.
Is fusion studio and davinci resolve studio same software or two separate software?
Separate applications. However the if you have the usb dongle version, it alles you to run both.
Fusion Studio 16 is included in Davinci Resolve Studio 16? Or i need to buy them both separately? 300$ for each one, 600$ in summary
If you have the dongle for resolve or Fsuion, both studio software will run with it. However, Fusion Studio does not support license key activation so far. So with the dongle version you get both software automatically.
@@VFXstudy I asked the Ivan's question to the B&H support staff and they're telling me Fusion Studio is a separate purchase. This is quite confusing. You're sure JUST the Resolve dongle gets you the standalone version of Fusion Studio?
@@polymetric2614 I'm using DaVinci Resolve 16 Studio with the dongle I got for Fusion 8. So this direction I'm very certain. The other way round, I read on the Fusion Studio 16 release notes - or maybe some new feature guide, don't remember, that support for the Resolve Dongle was added as a feature to Fusion Studio v16. You can check that again on the support page it was mentioned in one of the BMD release documents I believe - just in case you need evidence ;)
Yeap, Resolve more stable at beta 6 but fusion studio 16 beta 6 still very unstable still.
Is the fusion stand alone free or is the free version only in davinci resolve now?
There is still a free version of Fusion 9 available through the BMD support page. Fusion 16 is only available as the studio version or inside Resolve.
VFXstudy Alright thank you so much
What is a dongle? I can't find anywhere on the internet about what a dongle is except the dirty connotation. Also, how do I obtain a license for Blackmagic Fusion Studio 16. The application gave me the link www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion/ to find it. But, the link directs me to where I downloaded the application in the first place. There's no where on the page that takes me to where I can obtain a license.
A small USB stick which contains the license and needs to be connected to the computer to run the software. Search for "davinci Resolve dongle" or "fusion studio dongle" and you get the right images ;)
The license for Fusion, you need to buy from a vendor like bhphoto, etc. There should be a list of distributors on the bmd site.
excellent overview thanks so much! and while im keen to escape the adobe monopoly for the black magic ecosystem, i cant! because i find the GUI completely frustrating. you cant seem to easily put nodes on your your workspace. darg and drop from the menu area does not work.. right-click in the work area does not work trying to click on an input nodes output does not seem to work. . completely mystifying and if i have to watch a youtube tutorial just to start using a package its not going to happen...
Well not sure, what you are doing or what you tried. But all of it works. From drag and drop from menu to node area over dragging the output to other nodes, dragging nodes into the viewer etc.
Anyhow, any professional software has a learning curve. Someone who has never used a layer based software won't pick up AE without any instruction...
@@VFXstudy thanks for that prompt response. maybe my version is buggy (works in fusion 9 but not resolve 16.1.2.026). dragging just gives me a semi-transparent box and never actually puts a node down. just to put it in perspective, I've used every node based compositor since ICE from the Houdini people through cineon to shake and now.. ta-dah!!! fusion. there are industry GUI norms now and fusion just doesn't seem to adhere to many. vert scrolling is what most people would use for a zoom. shift-space to get a pop up of nodes.. hmmm.. no, right-click to select nodes to drop in.. no click on node out and select a node.. hmmm. it really needs a rethink
@@lostinspacestudio Hmm, not sure whz zou onlz have a semi-transparent box. That typically only appears while dragging until you release. Right click -> add tool also works instead of shift-space / ctrl+space - though the latter is faster when you know the acronyms. Zooming is with ctrl in all fusion windows. But yes, I guess it depends on what you are used to. I understand the blender left / vs right click also drove some Maya users crazy ;) Some things might also be due to its legacy and very hard to change with an existing user base. Fusion started some time in the 80s I think...
@@VFXstudy me either re dragging . yes right-click works now thanks. yeah legacy userbase. . like blender its an impediment to expanding the user base. lets see how their new 2.8 interface goes.. thanks for your input. its encouraged me to persevere
Hi sir , sir how to render in fusion studio 16
In short: add a saver node to the end of the flow and click the render button
What is the difference between Fusion and Black magic Fusion??
Blackmagic Design is the company developing Fusion. Both as Fusion tab in DaVinci Resolve and as a standalone application Fusion Studio.
Short answer:
Workflow and Organization - Slightly different workflow with fusion being more of a file editor
Stability and Performance - resolve uses more ram and has slightly worse performance than fusion
Actual Features: very close but resolve has slightly less features than fusion
Conclusion:
Free option - Fusion in resolve (very close to fusion stand alone version)
Best option for VFX - Fusion studio
More recent update: there are more and more ResolveFX effects available in Fusion in Resolve, which are not available in Fusion Studio. E.g., the color page denoise which is now available via ResolveFX in the Fusion tab. If you have other plugins for that in Fusion Studio you are fine, but this might add more of a feature difference now, especially since v17.
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I DONT HAVE FUSION TAB IN DAVINCHI 14 , PLEASE HELP, I AM ALSO A CREAOR, IT IS URGENT !!!
Fusion was integrated in Resolve from v15 on. I recommend upgrading to v16 for better performance and stability though.
I just want an free equivalent of Nuke Non-Commercial, will DaVinci Resolve work?
Depends on what you are doing. For a lot of stuff yes. For really heavy compositing you would do better with Fusion Studio. Also for anything that requires access to a render farm.
@@VFXstudy Like merging passes, tweaking alpha, doing some kind of roto hear and there, using glows, adding some camera lens effects, a bit of tracking for comp elements with potentially a 3D camera, working in deep comp with ACES and open .exr ? That's pretty much it
@@PhO3NiX96 yes, Resolve should be fine for that.
The feature set is there. For high performance stuff Resolve still struggles a bit, but you should be fine with what you are mentioning. However 3d camera tracking and optical flow tools are not available in the free version. If you need that you would need the Studio version of Reaolve (which includes Fusion Studio for free)
@@VFXstudy Ok thank you man, I wanted to know before learnin it cause I'm not planning on buying anything and I don't want to learn a ful software if in the end I can't do what I need inside ahah.
I appreciate the quick answers thanks so much
Also while I'm at it, is it possible to have a free version of Fusion without getting Resolve?
I don't wanna use Resolve, I just need the compositing part I will edit on Premiere anyways
Plz make new tutorial
Yes, taking short Winter break but new tutorials will start again next year probably end of January 🙂
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