@@saadmirza4221 well, i think it's dependent on the tactics system and if you don't have revival items/skills then you can't change the tactics anymore.
This is alluded to in IV but only really elaborated on in IVA. Demons in the IV continuity can't actually kill each other. The most they can do is seal each other away. That's why Lilith recruits Walter and founds the Ring of Gaea rather than try to take out Tayama's henchmen and activate Yamayo by herself.
Before the cute babies with wings, high ranking angels were depicted as wheels inside wheels inside wheels and so on, all with eyes and on fire, chimeras with eyes on their wings and blinding-bright, aways burning, six-winged serpent things that non-stop prayed to god. And these are the ophanim, cherubim and seraphim respectively. Some consider the Archangels ("A" not "a"), like Michael and Gabriel, to be on an even highter rank.
@@Gogetossj50 The wheels are more commonly called Thrones. And I never heard the seraphim as being serpents, just humanoids who obscure their appearance lest they scorch the earth since they're supposedly the very image of God.
chaincat33 Seraph can mean both burning one and serpent and in some Judeo-Christian texts, like the books of Enoch, they are sometimes described as snakes, dragons ect.
I'm gonna be honest I somewhat dislike the SMT designs for the thrones and cherubim because they center on humanoid figures, where only the lower orders of angels created to guide humans take on such forms.
Either way, the appearance of angels was never defined concretely and people who act like depictions of humanoid angels are somehow a lie irk me because they don't seem to understand there are 9 different types of angel each with distinct appearances, and said appearances are not even their true forms but only what humans perceive them as.
Y'know, I realized something about Michael, and his relation to Lucifer. Michael's design has a distinctly dragonic and serpentine motif, while the Book of Revelations refers to the Devil as "the great dragon", and identifies him with the serpent in Eden in Genesis. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
The appreances are. More. Based on the judo Christianity angels were not all pretty and graceful like popular speculation, I feel this fits better with how alien these entities are
In older interpretations, Angels and Archangels were described as monstruous, abstract and incomprehensible to mere humans. This depiction is closer to the originals than Kaneko's designs for these characters (though I do love carrot man Michael).
@@pablomadrid6962 Definitely not, archangels brought up in the bible were definitely not described as monstrous and stuff. Those were for other angels in other parts of the angel hierarchy though such as Seraphims and Cherubims.
@N. P. you do know that Angels do appear in every SMT games? Besides, Metatron is confirmed to be in the game. Also, IF SMT5 come out because they're in development hell.
Really? They couldn't come up with any excuse for why Gabriel wasn't sealed at Kagome tower? Even if they were like "putting all 4 in the same place means they could work together to free themselves", or "Gabriel is special and would still remember herself", they still could've, y'know, sealed her somewhere else!
Yeah, thats a pretty stupid plot hole. Though i guess you could say it was Mastema's law side acting up, as he describes himself as also following god's will, just on his way. Imo a better explanation would be if Gabriel fled to get reenforcements while Flynn fought Michael
@@christopherbravo1813mastma is referred to as crow in many scriptures in jewdo-christanity and yatagrasu is also crow in Japanese mythology so in smt universe they are sometimes considered same gods with different aspects
i hate that these bosses were DLC. it's a shame when you think about how many optional and secret bosses there used to be in SMT games. now they just make you pay for them.
@@GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp As much as people have been trying to say Atlus canceled SMT V I think Atlus has even flat out said about couple months ago that they're still working on it
@@PhantomThiefOracle Eh, Raphael looks rather fine to me, he's like, the least grotesque, mostly due to his form being the most humanoid (even compared to Gabriel)
@@Mother_Harlot because she has a typical bipedal structure with two arms and two legs. and there is the fact that when she speaks, her head is focused on, not her shield.
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whenever flynn died and it said that the rest of the party was trying their best, i really was cheering them on
It's oddly wholesome, for such a deep game
Better that than just ending the game right then and there, like in other SMT games.
@@manuelmateo3392 Especially Persona for some stupid ass reason
@@balanceherosmt7170 persona games have no reason to end the game with protagonist dying. It's not like they don't have an option to revive them.
@@saadmirza4221 well, i think it's dependent on the tactics system and if you don't have revival items/skills then you can't change the tactics anymore.
On second thought, maybe sparing Gabriel back then was a bad idea..
Mastema ran out of cages and space in Kagome tower.
How come he ran out of cages but he can't run out of megidolaons?
@@YaBoiVenSMT moment?
This is alluded to in IV but only really elaborated on in IVA. Demons in the IV continuity can't actually kill each other. The most they can do is seal each other away. That's why Lilith recruits Walter and founds the Ring of Gaea rather than try to take out Tayama's henchmen and activate Yamayo by herself.
Imagine them getting a 3d model and visit dx2 as alternate Michael and Gabriel
Dude. I'm not sure what a 3d rendition of these whack designs would even look like.
V didn't either, but I would like to see them in 3d
@@anenemystand5582 they're really cool tho...
@@anenemystand5582 actually i liked Raphael's design from Doi. Ok fr tho he look cool both Doi and Kazuma's art direction
I can't believe this bosses are harder than Merkabah himself. They gave me so much trouble
I guess this is more accurate how an angel would look like than the most popluar depictions of angels
Before the cute babies with wings, high ranking angels were depicted as wheels inside wheels inside wheels and so on, all with eyes and on fire, chimeras with eyes on their wings and blinding-bright, aways burning, six-winged serpent things that non-stop prayed to god. And these are the ophanim, cherubim and seraphim respectively. Some consider the Archangels ("A" not "a"), like Michael and Gabriel, to be on an even highter rank.
@@Gogetossj50 The wheels are more commonly called Thrones. And I never heard the seraphim as being serpents, just humanoids who obscure their appearance lest they scorch the earth since they're supposedly the very image of God.
chaincat33 Seraph can mean both burning one and serpent and in some Judeo-Christian texts, like the books of Enoch, they are sometimes described as snakes, dragons ect.
I'm gonna be honest I somewhat dislike the SMT designs for the thrones and cherubim because they center on humanoid figures, where only the lower orders of angels created to guide humans take on such forms.
Either way, the appearance of angels was never defined concretely and people who act like depictions of humanoid angels are somehow a lie irk me because they don't seem to understand there are 9 different types of angel each with distinct appearances, and said appearances are not even their true forms but only what humans perceive them as.
5:43 What... the hell... kind of sound... is THAT?
Heaven.
@@denkerbosu3551 Can't get my mind
Out of those memories...
Bring out the holy water
BE NOT AFRAID
@@erockgoblue6295 But, they are ANGELS!!!
Y'know, I realized something about Michael, and his relation to Lucifer.
Michael's design has a distinctly dragonic and serpentine motif, while the Book of Revelations refers to the Devil as "the great dragon", and identifies him with the serpent in Eden in Genesis. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Plenty of angels were described as serpents/dragons, etc.
No.
@@denkerbosu3551 seraphs were originally thought of as six-winged serpentine dragons.
Considering IVA...
well, Michael IS actively defying God's will in this game.
probably why the Heralds and their minions don't look like angels.
Why is everything in smt turned into nightmare fuel ?
Wouldn't be SMT otherwise.
The appreances are. More. Based on the judo Christianity angels were not all pretty and graceful like popular speculation, I feel this fits better with how alien these entities are
In older interpretations, Angels and Archangels were described as monstruous, abstract and incomprehensible to mere humans. This depiction is closer to the originals than Kaneko's designs for these characters (though I do love carrot man Michael).
Because it is SMT
@@pablomadrid6962 Definitely not, archangels brought up in the bible were definitely not described as monstrous and stuff. Those were for other angels in other parts of the angel hierarchy though such as Seraphims and Cherubims.
lol it's obvious whoever did the SMTIV redesigns is a HUGE HR Giger fanboy... and I'm _fucking here for it_
I love those Angel's designs
@N. P. you do know that Angels do appear in every SMT games? Besides, Metatron is confirmed to be in the game. Also, IF SMT5 come out because they're in development hell.
@N. P. You do know that SMT5 will be all CGI, right?
Love the archangels
@N. P. these designs might be licensed
@N. P. meaning they cant be used in other games if atlus doesn't have the license
Really? They couldn't come up with any excuse for why Gabriel wasn't sealed at Kagome tower? Even if they were like "putting all 4 in the same place means they could work together to free themselves", or "Gabriel is special and would still remember herself", they still could've, y'know, sealed her somewhere else!
I'm pretty sure Mastema chose to spare her knowing your role in the present time, guaranteeing you were the one to choose humanity's future.
Yeah, thats a pretty stupid plot hole. Though i guess you could say it was Mastema's law side acting up, as he describes himself as also following god's will, just on his way.
Imo a better explanation would be if Gabriel fled to get reenforcements while Flynn fought Michael
Yatagarasu actin' up against gods again 2: The Second Half of Angels
where was Yatagarasu?
@@christopherbravo1813mastma is referred to as crow in many scriptures in jewdo-christanity and yatagrasu is also crow in Japanese mythology so in smt universe they are sometimes considered same gods with different aspects
@@bridiptabharali3433 seems like quite a stretch
Michael's design is straight nightmare fuel.
I was about to do a dirty joke about his head and it's pose...but that would be unclean
I love it
@@Fermin-hw5pd lol i cant unsee it now
@@snowmanleblanc6053 He does some Power Drain
@@Fermin-hw5pd filth
I should play SMT4 again. It was pretty fun.
ell Michael is quit distrubing...
Cool
Huh... Im suprised no one commented that the artwork of the archangels look really similar to the artworks used by the Garo TV series
Same artist (Keita Amemiya)
Is Gabriel's Lamentation the same as Marlboro's Bad Breath?
Based Mastema.
As always.
And specially redpilled
Bible accurate Angels be like:
i don't see any here.
@@christopherbravo1813 those are accurate
@@n1rvanna_chaos is their specific designs found anywhere in the Bible?
@@christopherbravo1813 can't say where exactly but thrones are depicted as flaming circles or whatever
@@n1rvanna_chaos do these angels look like flaming circles?
Gabriel castigo a flynn por atacar a windygirk
LOOOL
Quién es Windygirk en este caso xd
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happenstance? I think not
i hate that these bosses were DLC. it's a shame when you think about how many optional and secret bosses there used to be in SMT games. now they just make you pay for them.
....so Gaberiel did get their revenge in the end
When im see tehir Designs in SMT 4 Im was like "wow they look Accurate"
I really like IV Mastema. He's got a lot of really interesting outlooks on the Alignments.
M FOR MASTEMAAAA!
Lol i agree i loved tearing through enemies making them mad with status aliments with an OP lv 99 Madgasser
Oh shit we did our own undoing.
Imagine if this design gets a 3d model, better, imagine if this appeared in persona!
Yeah probably not gonna happen honestly. It's too much for Persona
@@PhantomkevX yeah but smt is dead so that's the only hope
@@GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp Atlus has spend more budget for Persona.
@@GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp i don't believe it's dead
@@GabrielRodrigues-ts3kp As much as people have been trying to say Atlus canceled SMT V I think Atlus has even flat out said about couple months ago that they're still working on it
Smt predicted the accurate angles Before it was even a thing
That's Michael and Gabriel?!?! That looked messed up.
Raphael and Uriel aren’t any better
@@PhantomThiefOracle Eh, Raphael looks rather fine to me, he's like, the least grotesque, mostly due to his form being the most humanoid (even compared to Gabriel)
Delet silent prayer
Soooo Mastema was a good after all?
Whos ashema
One of aqua's demon
A palette swap of Asmodeus.
@@Canceritself cool
@@luizclaudio6476 def
Deez
M? Mastema?
Yeah.
anyone notice Gabriel using Merkabah's *face* as a shield?
Is not a Shield, It's Gabriel's face.
@@Mother_Harlot i'm pretty sure Gabriel's face is the thing on the front of her head.
@@christopherbravo1813 Not only the rest of angels look like that, also... Why are you so sure that the head must be the highest part of her body?
@@Mother_Harlot because she has a typical bipedal structure with two arms and two legs. and there is the fact that when she speaks, her head is focused on, not her shield.
And Rafael, Uriel or Michael what?
Law route best route.>:(
neutral to obtain waifu
It depends on what are your beliefs/what you are looking for
@@ulime Isabeau = wife.
Lol i love 90s kids wasted their entire 20s gushing over ff7 for allllll 10 years of youtube. Just to find out late millennials didnt like it. Aweee.
you... you do realize the millennials you speak of.. _are_ 90s kids right?...
Lol I knoowww but so iz late 80s. All I'm saying that window needs to come in smaller chunks.
That game is of 90 years?
what the fuck am I reading
@@GameJoltTobi I don't know either