Man great quality content!!! People like you should get more subscribers and views then those people who talk nonsense without knowing anything, no drama no bullshiting just to the point. Keep up the good work!!! Also Kevin such down to earth guy! May he get flooded with orders….
That’s really the hope man. We need Kevin to be flooded with orders and more people need to know about his kits. Please help spread the word and share the video.
I'm going to be building a Transit Raptor Van and want to use this kit! Going to be a lot of work making a kit like this fit a Transit, but it has to be done. Thanks for the vid showing how awesome this kit is!
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoadChange of plans, decided to build off an E-350 Van instead of the Transit. Much easier as it already has an actual frame and also the 7.3 V8 is the way to go, rather than the ecoboost. Looking forward to seeing your new HM kit on your truck soon. Awesome channel!
H M RACING DESIGN Buff Herman and Kevin Mahan started way back in the 199?'s I met Kevin and Buff Before they started HM Thanks for giving hard core offroad racing design for the Raptor.
Damn... that would be a blast to hang out with you guys and ride in those!! Look forward to seeing more of these trucks and builds from Kevin! I dont use my truck to the extent you guys do offroad.. atleast not yet since it is my daily driver 😂 lol!! Thanks for another killer video.. im drooling over here and not getting any work done... day dreaming after watching this 😂😂😂
I was in the passenger seat of the silver truck with Mark and it was 92 MPH through the woops. I was almost able to film it with my I phone from the passenger seat without being bounced out of the seat
Seriously, incredible work putting this together. Thank you so much! I wish Kevin got back to me when I asked him about a similar build a few months back, oh well not meant to be lol. Seems like a great build a good company though. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks man. He makes some amazing trucks but he runs the business fabricates and only has 2 welders. He's a small shop and no full staff. If you serious, he will spend the time to put a quote for you. If you on the fence, then he has less time for that. I'm hoping this video and the website help set expectations on cost so that those that reach out are more serious and ready to go when they contact him and he will be able to turn around quotes easier.
Great video on HM! Looks like I’m going to be saving my money for this kit. It would be cool if they sold the bump stop kit on their website so I can start the rear end on my truck.
Really enjoyed the video and was very informative! Could switching out the slip yoke to a 1350 possibly eliminate the "slip bump" raptors can occasionally can get?
A build like this will take at least a month or so depending on the options you pick. There is also lead times for shocks, rear housings, and fuel cell too before you can get in. And not sure what you means by backed up.
The rear has a ton more options depending on how you want to use the truck. He has traditional options with a bed cage and Deavers, but all his kits are based on 18in stroke shocks. There is also option for sprung under, wider axles, fuel cell, custom bed racks and soon we will show you guys a linked options as part of the recon build that is about 2 months out from being done
I remember we praised SVC for keeping inner tie rods factory in order to save the rack. What upgrades to the steering did they do on the silver scab of any? I built a 2003 screw cab back in the day with an HM kit and loved it. I currently have a Gen 2 Raptor and I’ve been on a Mojave run of yours 😉… great content btw
Here the tie rods are replaced end to end and it’s required because of what the truck can do. The stock tie rods can’t take it. With a mid travel you limited by the stock shock bucket. So even with the extra travel, you’re still within what the stock tie rod joints can do, and they last longer and are easier to replace. With long travel you’re getting more up and down travel, and you have to replace the joints end to end. And if you get the geometry right, like HM has, the steering is tighter and it has little to no bump steer so the stock rack will last a bit longer. But eventually you’ll want a swing set kit to go faster. But the cost of those is through the roof
Yeah copy. I’m aware they have custom tie rods with heim rod ends on both inner and outer with an adapter that goes on the end of the rack. I was just hoping they had something you didn’t mention involving a rack upgrade. Again great content and you do a steller job explaining things for the newer crowd.
No option yet. I was hoping the new housing being used to reinforce the bronco racks could be used, but I’m told it won’t work. So electronic racks will require regular replacement every few years in offroad trucks or switching to swing set. Neither are cost effective unfortunately.
HM’s geometry, has been dialed in throughout the years of racing to put the least amount of stress on the rack. Granted, running 40’s will add stress to it. The steering feels better than when it was stock.
@@markbeier3831 Yeah HM has always been top notch. Thats why I ran their suspension on my truck. I’m sure she’s tight and responsive. Race car parts! Enjoy that thing man 🤙
Stock is stock. Both TRX and Raptor are considered stock because they come from the factory. Mid travel is when you increase the width for more travel but keep the stock coilover stroke and the stock shock bucket. Long travel is when you go wider, and run longer shocks, at least 10in stroke, and cut off the stock shock bucket and replace it with a tower to support the longer shocks. Long travel kits also have the ability to run the shocks at a wider angle closer to the spindle allowing for better control. You cant do that with a stock shock bucket. Long travel also usually needs a brace over the engine to connect the 2 new shock towers. Hope that helps.
HM currently does not make a mid travel kit. Only a long travel kits like the ones here. Link is in the description and just checked that it works; hmoffroad.com
With a year waiting list.. Sounds like you brought him 100k. And the guy in the video with the grey scab did it all too after talking to you. Sounds like he owes you a pretty sick build @keepitdirty haha
Yes sir, and handling them well thanks to a goosetune. Surprised me. I normally warn guys away from anything bigger than 37s on an ecoboost. But with the proper tune, it can be done
He’s still building it all up, but the cost difference is the shock price between all 4 of the long travel kits. They all share the same geometry it’s mainly about how wide the kit is. They all get the same level of reinforcement and fabrication. Only difference is if they use 10in stroke or 12in stroke shocks. He will be releasing a mid travel option later this year that will be more affordable and can be bolted on with only minor welding. As soon as that kit is out, we will do a video on it.
@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I know it's $25k for front suspension and I was trying to add up the rest on the fly. 40" tires and spares and fitment, fiberglass front and rear, rear suspension, rear cage, fuel cell, lighting, bumpers, axel, drive lines, etc... at least $75k?
@Alexander450R it does add up yes, but not that high no. It all depends on what you want. Not everyone needs a fuel cell. Not everyone needs the 11k rear end of a 2 peice drive shaft. Not everyone needs a $7k Marty Mcfly rack like I would want. So realistically if you just focus on suspension and fenders with 37s or 40s and be much, much lower
Pricing info is in the video 2 times. I don’t know the time codes off the top of my head, but they are there and a comparison to the typical mid travel kit cost as well.
Would not hurt to ask. I know HM specialized in Ford f150 / Raptor. His designs can be adapted to other models. Challenger is frame. Fords have a narrow frame and is high up front. GM frames are very different so not sure on the implications. But all you would have to do is ask him. I can ask for you if you like and get back to you.
The age basically it. Insane emmisions standard. Just adding a fuel cell can make it so you can’t pass because of the filter requirements for the breather tubes and all that. Very strict so they are always out of state, usually Montana.
Or you can buy a BOLT kit from Blitz, add some reinforcements yourself and install everything yourself and save about 10-15k. 1” of extra travel isn’t worth that much to me. Although I love Kevin’s products the price isn’t close as you say. Kevin’s kit requires WAY more install work since the buckets and cage is involved. Apples to oranges…
Blitz has the lowest install price in the industry. I still don’t know how they do it. But if you do similar reinforcement you going to be closer in price. Not exactly because you’re not chopping off the shock bucket, but close. But it’s not just about suspension travel. The tuning options either a longer shock as well as being able to put them out farther out in the arm makes a huge difference for handling. Blitz also has a comparable long travel kit that is very impressive too. But that kit is way more expensive because it requires a full engine cage. We’ve featured that kit too and it was beyond impressive
Man, if the cartels aren't your biggest customers, they're doing it wrong 😅 it's the fentanyl equivalent to the cocaine cigarette boat racing in south Florida during the 80,s. Unfortunately for me, I'm not cartel so immediately I can't afford it, but if I was... 🤐🤠 I would go with HM.
There are guys who can only afford what they can. Prerunning is expensive, Don't shame them. Especially the Young guns coming into it. Maybe they are into the look, if they take it to the desert let them find out.
I totally agree with you there. I started on a budget and wheel how you can. What I don’t like is when someone takes a mid travel kit and calls it long travel. That’s a trend growing in the industry. Using marketing terms to get peoples money. And some of those kits with everything all in cost the same as these bigger kits. And I have a huge problem with that. Because it’s tricking customers and since they are new, they don’t know any better.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the solution really is to have two different trucks one for towing and one for beating. Alternatively, you can have maybe like an airbag set up to where you only install the airbag or inflate when towing giving you the spring rate you need. One things for sure , leaf under is the only way to go for maximum up travel and generally not having a shitty ass ride, off-road or on road. I don’t know why people stay leaf over, so stupid just pure ignorance. like hello, you can have the same amount of up travel while not being donkey high stink bug.
Yeah, 2 trucks would be my choice. Towing air bags will just get ripped up. But for sprung under, it’s not for everyone. You can’t carry much weight with a sprung under truck. Had this same conversation with Kevin at HM and for higher loads sprung over is the only option to carry any kind of weight. You also get a bit more clearance in the rocks. Sprung under is for the dedicated toy that won’t have much weight and primary does deserts only.
It’s a small shop man. Owner and a fabricator. That’s it. And he’s not charging a crazy amount for his kits. Website is the last thing on his mind and why we helped him with a video to raise awareness of his products. Only those that are into pavement princesses would care if the company had a killer website
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad actually I was interested in getting info for my raptor to do something similar but wanted to look at the "kits" you referenced when telling the world to go look at them on the web site. not that I care if its killer or not! there is 1 product listed. I don't understand your fascination with pavement princesses but you definitely come off like a donkey and should educate yourself on comprehension. I look forward to running into you in the off road community, I'm sure we will have a good time. like I said love the video and the truck!
If you're getting more than 5k worth of value than there would be zero reason to install it. You have zero sense of Business and how money works. Thumbs up on the promotion, I guess.
I have driven a SVC built truck and this truck back to back. The turning radius on the SVC truck was horrible. The sway it had, well that’s all that I will say about that. This HM Long Travel kit would still be worth it if it was $10k more in my opinion. Unless you have driven a HM built truck, you just won’t understand!
Wait what? What does running a business have to do with someone making a purchase decision? If I’m going to buy something, any product, I don’t need to know how that business is ran to make a purchase. But I can recognize value and what things cost. And all the plating and reinforcement, and the bump stop, engine brace, all the stuff included with this kit is optional or not available everywhere else and costs more in some shops because of the labor involved and to some shops, it’s custom work so they have to develop it or just say no. Also man, how is this a promotion? This is me geeking out again on HM work. Just like I did 2 years ago on the elite pre-runner build. Someone people taking this one different because it’s actual competition. But HM has been there the whole time. I think it’s time more people knew about his work. His builds are on a different level.
I remember we praised SVC for keeping inner tie rods factory in order to save the rack. What upgrades to the steering did they do on the silver scab of any? I built a 2003 screw cab back in the day with an HM kit and loved it. I currently have a Gen 2 Raptor and I’ve been on a Mojave run of yours 😉… great content btw
The green highlighting where they add reinforcement was great! I was easily able to follow all of the information. Thanks!
Thanks man. Wanted to make it clear what you’re getting and how different it is than any other kit.
Always the best Raptor content. You are a gift to us Raptor owners. I wish you had your own show.
Thanks man
Man great quality content!!! People like you should get more subscribers and views then those people who talk nonsense without knowing anything, no drama no bullshiting just to the point. Keep up the good work!!! Also Kevin such down to earth guy! May he get flooded with orders….
That’s really the hope man. We need Kevin to be flooded with orders and more people need to know about his kits. Please help spread the word and share the video.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad sure will do my part and hopefully one day I can get one truck built by Kevin fingerscrossed
I'm going to be building a Transit Raptor Van and want to use this kit! Going to be a lot of work making a kit like this fit a Transit, but it has to be done. Thanks for the vid showing how awesome this kit is!
Oh wow, that’s going to be a crazy build. Good luck. Would love to see it when it’s done
@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Yeah, I'll for sure keep you updated on the project. I'm in Utah so maybe even take a trip out to Cali when its built.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoadChange of plans, decided to build off an E-350 Van instead of the Transit. Much easier as it already has an actual frame and also the 7.3 V8 is the way to go, rather than the ecoboost. Looking forward to seeing your new HM kit on your truck soon. Awesome channel!
Kevin is awesome, the more I watch your videos, the more I appreciate my HM suspension and how much better it is than the competition.
Yes!! This is what I really want to come out of these videos. For others to see what I see. kevins kits are by far the best I’ve seen.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I'd love to meet you and make one of your runs one of these days.
If your in SoCal or surrounding area you man man. Just watch out for announcements on Instagram
I’ve been saving for this front kit for almost a decade. Hopefully before 2030! 🎉🎉
Hopefully!! I’ve been saying for a while myself.
Great info. Thank you.
H M RACING DESIGN
Buff Herman and Kevin Mahan started way back in the 199?'s
I met Kevin and Buff Before they started HM
Thanks for giving hard core offroad racing design for the Raptor.
Wow!! Another great video! Now to figure out how to scrape together funds to have HM build my truck.
Same man. I want this kit on my truck.
Thanks for promoting HM
Kevin is a talented fabricator and I figured more people need to know about his work
Damn... that would be a blast to hang out with you guys and ride in those!! Look forward to seeing more of these trucks and builds from Kevin! I dont use my truck to the extent you guys do offroad.. atleast not yet since it is my daily driver 😂 lol!!
Thanks for another killer video.. im drooling over here and not getting any work done... day dreaming after watching this 😂😂😂
Thanks man. Imagine all of us that saw it in person. We are all checking out bank accounts and seeing is selling a kid will get us one.
This video is killer. Love the detail. Can’t wait until helio commits to the hm kit.
Just need to raise funds man. But I really want this kit on my truck.
Love this video I wouldn’t want it any shorter entertaining the whole way through
Thanks man. I put a lot of work into these videos. So it’s greatly appreciated
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad no problem at all it’s my pleasure I’ve watched this video alone 4 times on road-trips I want that exact truck lol it’s perfect
I was in the passenger seat of the silver truck with Mark and it was 92 MPH through the woops. I was almost able to film it with my I phone from the passenger seat without being bounced out of the seat
Seriously, incredible work putting this together. Thank you so much! I wish Kevin got back to me when I asked him about a similar build a few months back, oh well not meant to be lol. Seems like a great build a good company though. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks man. He makes some amazing trucks but he runs the business fabricates and only has 2 welders. He's a small shop and no full staff. If you serious, he will spend the time to put a quote for you. If you on the fence, then he has less time for that. I'm hoping this video and the website help set expectations on cost so that those that reach out are more serious and ready to go when they contact him and he will be able to turn around quotes easier.
Great video! So much detail
Thanks
Great video! Keep em coming!!
Thanks
So sick
You should come out and check it out in person next time man. Rig will blow you away
Great video on HM! Looks like I’m going to be saving my money for this kit. It would be cool if they sold the bump stop kit on their website so I can start the rear end on my truck.
He slowly building the website up a little at a time so you will start seeing on there soon I hope.
Really enjoyed the video and was very informative! Could switching out the slip yoke to a 1350 possibly eliminate the "slip bump" raptors can occasionally can get?
I’ll have to ask Kevin about it.
Great video, looking forward to the video on real link system. Does HM have rear options for gen 3?
He does, but been waiting for a gen3 owner to pill the trigger to show it.
How long does the build take and are you backed up?
A build like this will take at least a month or so depending on the options you pick. There is also lead times for shocks, rear housings, and fuel cell too before you can get in.
And not sure what you means by backed up.
Killer.... is the Recon out yet? What's the full build on a Gen2 with the Recon?
Not yet no, but almost. Hoping sometime next month we finally get to see it on the trails
When you do the front, what about the rear?
The rear has a ton more options depending on how you want to use the truck. He has traditional options with a bed cage and Deavers, but all his kits are based on 18in stroke shocks.
There is also option for sprung under, wider axles, fuel cell, custom bed racks and soon we will show you guys a linked options as part of the recon build that is about 2 months out from being done
I remember we praised SVC for keeping inner tie rods factory in order to save the rack. What upgrades to the steering did they do on the silver scab of any? I built a 2003 screw cab back in the day with an HM kit and loved it. I currently have a Gen 2 Raptor and I’ve been on a Mojave run of yours 😉… great content btw
Here the tie rods are replaced end to end and it’s required because of what the truck can do. The stock tie rods can’t take it. With a mid travel you limited by the stock shock bucket. So even with the extra travel, you’re still within what the stock tie rod joints can do, and they last longer and are easier to replace. With long travel you’re getting more up and down travel, and you have to replace the joints end to end. And if you get the geometry right, like HM has, the steering is tighter and it has little to no bump steer so the stock rack will last a bit longer. But eventually you’ll want a swing set kit to go faster. But the cost of those is through the roof
Yeah copy. I’m aware they have custom tie rods with heim rod ends on both inner and outer with an adapter that goes on the end of the rack. I was just hoping they had something you didn’t mention involving a rack upgrade. Again great content and you do a steller job explaining things for the newer crowd.
No option yet. I was hoping the new housing being used to reinforce the bronco racks could be used, but I’m told it won’t work. So electronic racks will require regular replacement every few years in offroad trucks or switching to swing set. Neither are cost effective unfortunately.
HM’s geometry, has been dialed in throughout the years of racing to put the least amount of stress on the rack. Granted, running 40’s will add stress to it. The steering feels better than when it was stock.
@@markbeier3831 Yeah HM has always been top notch. Thats why I ran their suspension on my truck. I’m sure she’s tight and responsive. Race car parts! Enjoy that thing man 🤙
Great video
Thank you 🙏🙏
Question what's considered mid travel and long travel at what point does it switch? What are stock trxs and raptors considered?
Stock is stock. Both TRX and Raptor are considered stock because they come from the factory.
Mid travel is when you increase the width for more travel but keep the stock coilover stroke and the stock shock bucket.
Long travel is when you go wider, and run longer shocks, at least 10in stroke, and cut off the stock shock bucket and replace it with a tower to support the longer shocks.
Long travel kits also have the ability to run the shocks at a wider angle closer to the spindle allowing for better control. You cant do that with a stock shock bucket. Long travel also usually needs a brace over the engine to connect the 2 new shock towers.
Hope that helps.
How much is the mid travel kit? And where is the link? Can’t find it online
HM currently does not make a mid travel kit. Only a long travel kits like the ones here. Link is in the description and just checked that it works; hmoffroad.com
It would be sick to see a similar video of kibbie tech!
I asked to do a video on a Kibbitech truck a while back and we were told no. He has his own channel so I think he wants to put his own videos out.
Does this UAV kit work on a Gen 1??
Yes sir it does. Hoping I can get it on mine here as well. Raising up the funds myself now
With a year waiting list.. Sounds like you brought him 100k. And the guy in the video with the grey scab did it all too after talking to you. Sounds like he owes you a pretty sick build @keepitdirty haha
Working on it. I’m serious about getting this kit on my truck
Was this a 3.5 turbo with 40s?
Yes sir, and handling them well thanks to a goosetune. Surprised me. I normally warn guys away from anything bigger than 37s on an ecoboost. But with the proper tune, it can be done
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thank you man for always replying your the best!!!!
I have 2009 platinum 4*4 under 200.000 need a lift?
How much are their other kits? They don't have pricing on their website.
He’s still building it all up, but the cost difference is the shock price between all 4 of the long travel kits.
They all share the same geometry it’s mainly about how wide the kit is. They all get the same level of reinforcement and fabrication. Only difference is if they use 10in stroke or 12in stroke shocks.
He will be releasing a mid travel option later this year that will be more affordable and can be bolted on with only minor welding. As soon as that kit is out, we will do a video on it.
I have a SCAB in that same color which makes it even harder to watch because I don't have $90k to match that performance hahaha. Great video!
You don’t need 90k to build this truck. You could get the same level of performance at HM for much much less.
@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I know it's $25k for front suspension and I was trying to add up the rest on the fly. 40" tires and spares and fitment, fiberglass front and rear, rear suspension, rear cage, fuel cell, lighting, bumpers, axel, drive lines, etc... at least $75k?
@Alexander450R it does add up yes, but not that high no. It all depends on what you want. Not everyone needs a fuel cell. Not everyone needs the 11k rear end of a 2 peice drive shaft. Not everyone needs a $7k Marty Mcfly rack like I would want. So realistically if you just focus on suspension and fenders with 37s or 40s and be much, much lower
How much is the front LT kit? You started talking about it around 14:15.
Pricing info is in the video 2 times. I don’t know the time codes off the top of my head, but they are there and a comparison to the typical mid travel kit cost as well.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad11:01 my bad !
With all that is replaced and reinforced, looks like this can be applied to normal F150s. Only need wider fenders.
Yes sir it can. Frames are essentially the same and the shock bucket is removed so this kit is even more suited for f150s
Daaaaammmmm that's how you sell a product!!!!... I got a 2014 Silverado with 4.88.... is their a kit for us?
Would not hurt to ask. I know HM specialized in Ford f150 / Raptor. His designs can be adapted to other models. Challenger is frame. Fords have a narrow frame and is high up front. GM frames are very different so not sure on the implications. But all you would have to do is ask him. I can ask for you if you like and get back to you.
Is there a link to there websites? Thank you.
Yeah, check the description of the video. Link to HMoffroad.com is there
What about price without shocks?
We broke it down in the video man. And there is more info listed in the website in the description
I heard 19,865 w/coilovers and bypass?
@@mikedisano watch the video again man. We put a few graphics up so you can see all the costs breakdown. Or you can go to the site
Got any stories about why the majority of Cali prerunners are registered out of state?
Emissions and registration is insane in cali
The age basically it. Insane emmisions standard. Just adding a fuel cell can make it so you can’t pass because of the filter requirements for the breather tubes and all that. Very strict so they are always out of state, usually Montana.
HM does v8 swaps?
Yes they do. One of the options on their recon trucks.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad #takemymoney
Once that truck is done we will do an overview of it. But reach out to him using the inquiry button on the website if you want more info
Ford just offered the Raptor R engine as a crate engine. That and a long travel would have a Gen 2 sitting pretty.
Yeah it would. But have to have big money to do all that.
Or you can buy a BOLT kit from Blitz, add some reinforcements yourself and install everything yourself and save about 10-15k. 1” of extra travel isn’t worth that much to me. Although I love Kevin’s products the price isn’t close as you say. Kevin’s kit requires WAY more install work since the buckets and cage is involved. Apples to oranges…
Blitz has the lowest install price in the industry. I still don’t know how they do it. But if you do similar reinforcement you going to be closer in price. Not exactly because you’re not chopping off the shock bucket, but close. But it’s not just about suspension travel. The tuning options either a longer shock as well as being able to put them out farther out in the arm makes a huge difference for handling.
Blitz also has a comparable long travel kit that is very impressive too. But that kit is way more expensive because it requires a full engine cage. We’ve featured that kit too and it was beyond impressive
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Does Kevin have a payment plan 😂
🤣🤣 you may need affirm
Man, if the cartels aren't your biggest customers, they're doing it wrong 😅 it's the fentanyl equivalent to the cocaine cigarette boat racing in south Florida during the 80,s.
Unfortunately for me, I'm not cartel so immediately I can't afford it, but if I was... 🤐🤠 I would go with HM.
I thought all raptors were basically trophy trucks according to their owners.
lol, of course they are. None of the reinforcement we talked about here is needed.
There are guys who can only afford what they can. Prerunning is expensive, Don't shame them. Especially the Young guns coming into it. Maybe they are into the look, if they take it to the desert let them find out.
I totally agree with you there. I started on a budget and wheel how you can.
What I don’t like is when someone takes a mid travel kit and calls it long travel. That’s a trend growing in the industry. Using marketing terms to get peoples money. And some of those kits with everything all in cost the same as these bigger kits. And I have a huge problem with that. Because it’s tricking customers and since they are new, they don’t know any better.
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11:49 haha it’s only $$
🤣🤣 only. But if you have the money. Why go with any other kit.
The price is not far from Kibbetech
Kibbitech is way, way more expensive when you add it all up. I personally would rather have HM build me a truck over them.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad
I didn’t realize that. Fair enough. DEFINITELY nice trucks from HM though.
Take my money noooowww
I tow all the time with 62” springs. close all my bypass tubes , and let it ride the hydro bumps. what ever
But why would you want to do that? You could easily loose the tuning you just set and that’s extra work everytime you go from off-roading to towing.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the solution really is to have two different trucks one for towing and one for beating. Alternatively, you can have maybe like an airbag set up to where you only install the airbag or inflate when towing giving you the spring rate you need. One things for sure , leaf under is the only way to go for maximum up travel and generally not having a shitty ass ride, off-road or on road. I don’t know why people stay leaf over, so stupid just pure ignorance. like hello, you can have the same amount of up travel while not being donkey high stink bug.
Yeah, 2 trucks would be my choice. Towing air bags will just get ripped up.
But for sprung under, it’s not for everyone. You can’t carry much weight with a sprung under truck. Had this same conversation with Kevin at HM and for higher loads sprung over is the only option to carry any kind of weight. You also get a bit more clearance in the rocks. Sprung under is for the dedicated toy that won’t have much weight and primary does deserts only.
love the truck and video, website sucks.. nothing to see
🤣🤣 🤣🤣 I guess you prefer trucks on pavement or something
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad i dont get the pavement.... I went to website as suggested in video and there was 1 product to view, thus I said website sucks..
It’s a small shop man. Owner and a fabricator. That’s it. And he’s not charging a crazy amount for his kits. Website is the last thing on his mind and why we helped him with a video to raise awareness of his products.
Only those that are into pavement princesses would care if the company had a killer website
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad actually I was interested in getting info for my raptor to do something similar but wanted to look at the "kits" you referenced when telling the world to go look at them on the web site. not that I care if its killer or not! there is 1 product listed. I don't understand your fascination with pavement princesses but you definitely come off like a donkey and should educate yourself on comprehension. I look forward to running into you in the off road community, I'm sure we will have a good time. like I said love the video and the truck!
I wish I was rich 😢
Me too. I need to win the lottery to have him build me an elite.
Why ford!!! lol Chevy had more customers
Some shops specialize in a specific brand 🤷♂️ for a reason. These guys have built GMs before and for many reasons they choose to focus on Ford truck.
There is nothing affordable in off-roading
If you're getting more than 5k worth of value than there would be zero reason to install it. You have zero sense of Business and how money works. Thumbs up on the promotion, I guess.
I have driven a SVC built truck and this truck back to back. The turning radius on the SVC truck was horrible. The sway it had, well that’s all that I will say about that. This HM Long Travel kit would still be worth it if it was $10k more in my opinion. Unless you have driven a HM built truck, you just won’t understand!
Wait what? What does running a business have to do with someone making a purchase decision? If I’m going to buy something, any product, I don’t need to know how that business is ran to make a purchase. But I can recognize value and what things cost. And all the plating and reinforcement, and the bump stop, engine brace, all the stuff included with this kit is optional or not available everywhere else and costs more in some shops because of the labor involved and to some shops, it’s custom work so they have to develop it or just say no.
Also man, how is this a promotion? This is me geeking out again on HM work. Just like I did 2 years ago on the elite pre-runner build. Someone people taking this one different because it’s actual competition. But HM has been there the whole time. I think it’s time more people knew about his work. His builds are on a different level.
Jeff is being a real Karen
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I remember we praised SVC for keeping inner tie rods factory in order to save the rack. What upgrades to the steering did they do on the silver scab of any? I built a 2003 screw cab back in the day with an HM kit and loved it. I currently have a Gen 2 Raptor and I’ve been on a Mojave run of yours 😉… great content btw