@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad maybe some Tacoma stuff or other vehicles to get a different audience, I have to say I have learned a lot with your Vids, I have a Navara, with custom mid travel on the front (12”) with 2.5 radflo’s, 5 link rear also with 2.5(13”), now I’m thinking of getting a USDM truck, for more travel, that said I’m on the fence, since the terrain is nothing like yours. Also loved your SDI videos.
Thanks man. A lot of the maintenance we do is across the board for all rigs. I am researching options for a more budget build to go play with Raptors. Maybe an old 4 runner or something like that
You've been RUINED!!! You'll never drive off road and feel the same EVER AGAIN....UNTIL....you get ONE ! You nailed it....it's on a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL.....Damn!
What a great video brother, I think you should start a series where you go out and visit dudes with built Raptors. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I will make sure to do a mass share to all my social media peeps.
Yes, I agree with that , going to see raptor builds but not just walk arounds but seeing them in action , that would separate your channel from some others out there that just walk around. I watched all 50 minutes of this. This is definitely the direction that the Gen 3 should of gone, I agree with you they need more suspension to match the HP. Great video PILTPILTPILT
Kevin is one of my closest friends. He’s a hell of a guy. The kinda guy you call when you’re in jail in Morocco. He will make shit happen. He’s like military and one of the sharpest knives in the drawer. His trucks, of course, are better than “the best”. we took a ride in this truck on a hardware run for parts when building my spare & trunk setup. Holy Sheet this thing is like- a 7000lb drag strip car that can go ANYWHERE. it was one of the most exhilarating rides I’ve been in, and I’ve raced Baja. Yeah. These things are worth every bit of $350,000. Too bad I can’t afford one!!! 😮 one can dream though. Haha.
Totally agree man. Solid dude and amazing builder. First time I saw his trucks, I knew they were different. Everything I tried to get other companies to add to me truck for reinforcements was the standard for his kit. We just need to win the lottery and get them made
Kevin built my truck and I can attest to you he stands behind his work and products. Best decision I've made with a vehicle. My truck and suspension is totally awesome!
I just got me a 2013 Raptor 6.2 with nothing on it all stock and I started to watch videos but none have this good information and details where people who are new to this can understand great work guys and doing what y’all doing
The thumbnail catch my attention, because I'm trying to build a homemade ford "cobra" (wanna be raptor). So I'm getting ideas on how to diy build the bulge fenders and bed sides. I'm a jeweler so I'm not sure what I'm doing here. But also have experience pouring concrete, framing walls, drywall, flooring, welding, abit of electrician experience, plumbing and every week I cut my own hair 😎. So I'm confident I can tackle my next project. But mannnn when I saw the Mexican flag on that fender, it gave me the goosebumps. Much respect for you brotha. If I ever win the lottery I'll order one just like that green beast. Saludos amigo from Dallas TX
Ah ok. Tons of options for a 2016. Basically if you do a taller shock bucket, any Gen2 raptor mid travel and long travel kit will work on your truck. KHC and camburg both have shock bucket options.
Hey BKR, Big Kevin Racing. Great to see you still in the game. Last time I talked with you things were undecided. Great quality as always, no " Smoke and mirrors "bull💩" with Kevin. Big Scotty Racing.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad this truck is just insane… I have this idea of a build I want to do… not even sure it’s possible… but I’m thinking you might know … currently I have an 2017 f-250 with a custom flatbed and truck camper …full carli kit (which I know is nothing at all compared to what these guys are doing)… I want to build a truck that can be the best of both worlds… maybe some version of a truck like this but can also have a custom aluminum truck camper on the back… not sure if something like that is remotely possible… something I can just go crazy in and camp and do my thing in as well….. loved to hear your thoughts … thanks
Look at the massive trucks that race Dakar. Definitely possible. Just not sure most cabinets in a RV style setup would last the abuse of hitting whoops fast. The vibrations and Gs the truck hit are huge
Yeah man. That’s the most impressive part to me. Steering looked so easy on this truck. And where ever Kevin pointed that truck, she went. So stable and just had grip.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the section where your saying deep corner is the same Spot we filmed. That whole section to the left is easy 3 ft plus. Almost have to drift in the whoops to hit it right.
On that downhill section at the beginning, he was hitting 95. Never had clips look fast on their own till I tried to shoot this truck man. It’s crazy fast.
Having grown up playing and racing in the desert I'm very familiar with offroad racing. When compared to a regular truck with bolt on stuff the level of performance this truck has is on another level. Also IMO anyone who build their trucks with this long travel kit must include a legit cage... If you ball it up at the speeds the truck would be capable of and not have a cage... you're gonna look like spaghetti when it comes to a stop.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad nah man, was stoked it was long video because I wanted to learn all about it. Especially since they don't have a whole lot on their ig documented! This thing is a BEAST. They are eating whoops for breakfast!
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad a dream build for sure. If I lived somewhere close to a lot of desert like you guys, I think I know where my whole paycheck would go to. 😂
This is a really awesome video!! I needed clarification on the talk about 1-point harnesses. You should include a HANS device if you do anything greater than the standard 3-point harness. A 4-point without a HANS device is more dangerous than a 3-point without a HANS device. Is this true?
Our discussions was about roll cages. Anything last a standard seat belt should not be used unless you have a roll cage. As for the hans decide, I honestly don’t know. I know it could not hurt to have one but most prerunner owners are not wearing a helmet or HANS device. Only those that are racing competitively do. And at that point safety equipment is dictated by the racing organization
Mind blowingly beautiful 🫠 im just happy to finally own a raptor… that beast or even half that beast would be a dream truck!!! You and your son made it look like it was such an amazing ride. Lol
You have to the the first I’ve heard say that while the fox valves are easer too adjust, everyone raves that the kings perform better out of the box. Some shops just prefer fox, because that’s what they know. While others swear by kings. Kings are a little more difficult to adjust. But they are also easier to service and it’s easier to get parts for them. I personally wish I was on Kings after my experience with thess race fox and trying to get parts from Fox
Amazing video! How noticeable is the clicking from the bypass valves when riding in the cab? I'm assuming it's exaggerated in the frame mounted Gopro footage since the bypass shocks are also mounted to the frame. Always wondered about that. Thanks and I hope one of these builds is in your channels future! Looks like a perfect tax deductible business expense to me. "work truck"😉
You can hear it in the cab. In the clips in this video you can hear it. It can get loud, specially when your going fast down the trail and that’s why head sets are a must offroad with these trucks. They do insulate the cab with dynamat material but because the shocks are connected to the frame and cage, all the noise cannot be dampened out of the cab. That’s why full cage builds are not for everyone
There has to be someone down under making prerunners. You guys have tons and tons of trails. I know aussies are more into the Toyotas and mudding type rigs because of the crazy rain you guys can get, but there has to be prerunner shops down there.
That's a badass truck, makes my Gen One Hennessy a little jealous. LOL Is there an update to HM's information, it looks like his Instagram page is gone?
Looks like he changed his name on IG, I just updated if you want to go check out his page. He makes some of the best suspension setups on the market for raptors
HM will be getting he site up soon. But he’s a small shop. His contact info is below if you want a quote, and soon we will be helping him sell and quote these kits.
I grew up in sand cars let’s be honest it don’t take that long to buckle up if you know how to get out of them. You gotta loosen em up first then pop the buckle off. Then it’s easy to strap in when you get back in if. I used to do it while driving/leaving the hill. Takes a minute
If you have experience with them sure. I saw Eddie and Kevin here strap up quick. But the rest of us new to harnesses we would take what felt like a lifetime.
It's a bit of a stretch to call it a Raptor R killer when it's in an entirely different universe than a (still very cool) factory stock truck. And I'm guessing at 3x the price. So sick!
Cage is required for the rear suspension. Can’t do that much travel without a cage. But he was a version of the front kit for non caged trucks prices similar to your typical bolt kit / mid travel kit. That’s the 92 and 94 kit he was talking about
SVC linked kit still has its place man. Specially if you don’t want a caged truck. But the HM kit is something else man. More travel up front in 2wd, the reinforcement they do is next level (no other shop does this much), and it’s race proven design.
HM suspension kits are for all Raptors and F150s. Since the shock bucket is completely replaced and the whole area is reinforced, they kit can fit any late model ford truck as the front frame geometry without the shock buckets is the same.
So your truck built the way it is really wouldnt be able to take that terrain at least at half the speed the HM truck was going? Or is it because your suspension isnt tuned for that currently?
My truck can take on whoops that are about 1-1.5 ft deep. With tuning I may be able to go a little deeper but not much. At Barstow you have whoops that are 2-3 ft deep and you need race truck suspension to handle those fast. I don’t have enough suspension travel and my back is bucking way too much to handle those.
They are currently in Temecula. And he did stop for a while this past year thanks to an awful partner that drove the business into the ground. Luckily that POS a is gone and it’s just Kevin now doing some of the best designs in the business
Frame, Windshields and AC. Trophy trucks are usually a full custom tube chassis with no windows and no comfort features. Body is all fiberglass too A prerunner is based on a frame truck and cab. Most of the frame is removed and or reinforced and you keep comfort features like AC, stereo, windshield, etc…. So it’s the more drivable truck. Trophy truck has to be trailered everywhere while a prerunner can be driven around the streets
Yeah man. Back and without the old partner. Just Kevin and a great kid that’s helping him and he’s improving on his kits to make them the very best kit on the market for F150s and Raptors
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah man I know, after seeing the juggernaut and other f150s blasting through whoops I knew what kit I wanted , but yeah I’m glad they’re back I’m business, I know where my money is going
Anything more than a 1 point lap belt gives you a false sense of security. You may think you can run faster than the capabilities of the truck and if and when you get in trouble, the stock roof cannot handle a roll over. With conventional seats belts or a lap belt, if you roll you can move out of the way and stay safe. With a 5 point harness your strapped in and your dead the moment the roof collapses and you cannot get out of the way. There is no cage to keep the roof from collapsing on you and killing your.
Love the build just hate when ppl take a F150 build it then steal the Raptor looks. If u want a “ superior F150 with a 5.0 then be proud of that. Don’t try to pretend it’s a Raptor by making it look like one. Again not saying the build isn’t badass, it’s second to none
They don’t make an F150 styled fold out fiberglass hood. No one would buy it 🤷♂️. And let’s be honest here man. This is far superior than a raptor. Does not matter if the base is an f150 or not. This truck is on a whole other level and the styling don’t matter
There is no denying this is better than a Raptor or Raptor R… TRX …. Hell a TRX Redeye ( if they make it lol) my point was it always seems ppl want to copy the looks then call it a Raptor killer ( in this case rightfully so)
Kit cost about the same as an SVC and RPG kit at $17,700 plus installation. And you get a true long travel kit, with longer shocks that perform so much better.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for the quick reply and sharing what you are able to provide! I recently converted my 2011 ram 2500 to a full Thuren off road suspension set up and it was night and day different than stock. Since then I sold that truck and bought a gen 2 raptor which I do love. It is great to see how you transform these trucks! Great work.
It’s a custom exhaust that dumps out under the cab plus the tube and supercharger. It sounds even better in person. Contact Kevin for more details and he can hook you up.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I have headers and true duel exhaust 3in all the way out with two outlaws. Is there a certain muffler on that and is it just a single exit?
Kit price is about the same as an SVC mid travel kit. Just a little bit more because of the shock bucket is completely replaced. Contact Kevin for a quote. His contact details are in the description
Idk if they do but the only way I could buy a prerunner is if they made long travel that had valving that didn't sound like a crackhead on a typewriter.
Welp, what is getting sold to finance this? Haha, for real man, I can’t go ride in one. I would sell everything including house and kids for one. So capable, with one draw back as he said, “gotta pay to play”! Helio your channel is awesome! Can’t wait for the next adventure. But for little baby geezus’s sake, stop showing us things we want but can’t have. Jk, show it all
🤣🤣 those are the shocks. Bypass race shocks click and clack like that. The sound is the bypass valves doing their job and a noise you will always hear offroad. The noise is made worse by the cage. Those shocks are connected to the cage and that cage tuning resonated the sound in the cab. If you do a non caged truck with his long travel kits you get similar performance with not as much sound in the cab. You can hear some of it yeah, but not as much.
Same here man. I would have to sell the house, the kid, the wife, maybe the dog. Nah, not the dog to get one. I may do their 94 kit though. I was blown away by that front end
How satisfying was that to watch bombing it down the desert! Defo need to sweet talk the wife for that set up, sell the kids, sell the wife, sell the house.... keep the puppy 😂😂
This truck is a few levels up from SVC. SVC kits are nuts mid travel kits. Everything HM a makes is long travel and the amount of reinforcement he does is leaps and bounds more and better than anyone else in the Raptor game
This is literally vehicle porn for me. I'm on my second viewing. please go around the country when you have the chance and break down builds like these, there aren't enough on RUclips with this much detail.
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This channel deserves more subs
Thanks man. 🙏🙏
He’s building it, they will come!
I hope so man. We don’t advertise or push our content to anyone. I would rather have organic growth than a bunch of fake followers
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad maybe some Tacoma stuff or other vehicles to get a different audience, I have to say I have learned a lot with your Vids, I have a Navara, with custom mid travel on the front (12”) with 2.5 radflo’s, 5 link rear also with 2.5(13”), now I’m thinking of getting a USDM truck, for more travel, that said I’m on the fence, since the terrain is nothing like yours. Also loved your SDI videos.
Thanks man. A lot of the maintenance we do is across the board for all rigs. I am researching options for a more budget build to go play with Raptors. Maybe an old 4 runner or something like that
You've been RUINED!!! You'll never drive off road and feel the same EVER AGAIN....UNTIL....you get ONE ! You nailed it....it's on a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL.....Damn!
🤣🤣 been lusting after her ever since.
We have come full circle ⭕️
What a great video brother, I think you should start a series where you go out and visit dudes with built Raptors. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I will make sure to do a mass share to all my social media peeps.
That’s a great idea. Definitely want to start featuring more builds on the channel.
Yes, I agree with that , going to see raptor builds but not just walk arounds but seeing them in action , that would separate your channel from some others out there that just walk around. I watched all 50 minutes of this. This is definitely the direction that the Gen 3 should of gone, I agree with you they need more suspension to match the HP. Great video PILTPILTPILT
Thanks man 🙏🙏
Kevin is one of my closest friends. He’s a hell of a guy. The kinda guy you call when you’re in jail in Morocco. He will make shit happen. He’s like military and one of the sharpest knives in the drawer.
His trucks, of course, are better than “the best”. we took a ride in this truck on a hardware run for parts when building my spare & trunk setup. Holy Sheet this thing is like- a 7000lb drag strip car that can go ANYWHERE. it was one of the most exhilarating rides I’ve been in, and I’ve raced Baja. Yeah. These things are worth every bit of $350,000. Too bad I can’t afford one!!! 😮 one can dream though. Haha.
Totally agree man. Solid dude and amazing builder. First time I saw his trucks, I knew they were different. Everything I tried to get other companies to add to me truck for reinforcements was the standard for his kit. We just need to win the lottery and get them made
That is one sick truck! Looks pretty dialed, that guy was not taking it easy on it either. Dream truck material
Yeah man. It’s beyond impressive and he pushed it so hard and truck did not flinch.
exquisitely beautiful!
Kevin built my truck and I can attest to you he stands behind his work and products. Best decision I've made with a vehicle. My truck and suspension is totally awesome!
That’s great to hear man. Because the work is awesome,
I just got me a 2013 Raptor 6.2 with nothing on it all stock and I started to watch videos but none have this good information and details where people who are new to this can understand great work guys and doing what y’all doing
Thanks man. Glad we could help out.
Great vid and amazing seeing how well that truck works! Hope one day I'll have a HM built truck in the stable!!
Thanks man. The design of strength of his kits always blows me away. Hope to get his front kit in my truck someday
Man that is a sharp looking truck. If I could only afford to hand my 2012 SVT to these guys, and say build me a prerunner. Have fun
Almost did myself. Would have to sell the house just to afford it. But the truck is amazing!!
I rode in this pea green dominatrix. Wow! Just insane. Every aspect, even down to the fact that it costs more than most Houses in USA.
🤣🤣 it’s an amazing build for sure.
Damn what an episode, Dope Helio! Your reactions say it all.
That's wild.
Dude, I was blown away. I was not ready for how fast that truck was.
Damn man I can't wait to be able to buy a beautiful build like this!! Great video and awesome truck man!!
Thanks man. This video was a lot of fun to put together
The noise reminds me of a jet ski go ing fast over some good size waves!
Yeah, that constant going in and out of power. But that supercharged V8 sounds soo much better in person. Microphones can’t capture how good it sounds
The thumbnail catch my attention, because I'm trying to build a homemade ford "cobra" (wanna be raptor). So I'm getting ideas on how to diy build the bulge fenders and bed sides. I'm a jeweler so I'm not sure what I'm doing here. But also have experience pouring concrete, framing walls, drywall, flooring, welding, abit of electrician experience, plumbing and every week I cut my own hair 😎. So I'm confident I can tackle my next project. But mannnn when I saw the Mexican flag on that fender, it gave me the goosebumps. Much respect for you brotha. If I ever win the lottery I'll order one just like that green beast. Saludos amigo from Dallas TX
Thanks man. Kevin at HM can build an amazing truck.
What year is your truck?
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad it's a 2016. But also still have my baby. My platinum.
Ah ok. Tons of options for a 2016. Basically if you do a taller shock bucket, any Gen2 raptor mid travel and long travel kit will work on your truck. KHC and camburg both have shock bucket options.
thanks for sharing, i always appreciate people doing there craft to the highest level!
Thanks man. I’ve been geeking out on Kevin’s builds for a while now and had to share
This video was amazing. I enjoyed every second.
Thanks man. We put a lot hard work into this one.
That truck is rowdy! Love it
Yes it is! 🤣
That truck is wicked bro! Lucky you got to ride in it!
Yeah, we are very grateful to the owner for letting us film this and get a ride
What a gorgeous truck! beautiful!!!
That’s a pricey truck, love it.
It’s badass and worth every penny man.
Hey BKR, Big Kevin Racing. Great to see you still in the game. Last time I talked with you things were undecided. Great quality as always, no " Smoke and mirrors "bull💩" with Kevin.
Big Scotty Racing.
Kevin is back for sure and building some great rigs again
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I met Kevin before H amd M was formed. Ask Kevin about his early days. He has the experience .
That is a SICK TRUCK,!!!!! Dayum,!!!!
It’s even more impressive in person. HM builds some works of art
So, $300k? More? This is so, so cool! 🤤 Makes my mildly modded Gen2 look like a work trim truck
🤣🤣 yeah. It’s an amazing build
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad this truck is about $300K ??
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad this truck is just insane… I have this idea of a build I want to do… not even sure it’s possible… but I’m thinking you might know … currently I have an 2017 f-250 with a custom flatbed and truck camper …full carli kit (which I know is nothing at all compared to what these guys are doing)… I want to build a truck that can be the best of both worlds… maybe some version of a truck like this but can also have a custom aluminum truck camper on the back… not sure if something like that is remotely possible… something I can just go crazy in and camp and do my thing in as well….. loved to hear your thoughts … thanks
Look at the massive trucks that race Dakar. Definitely possible. Just not sure most cabinets in a RV style setup would last the abuse of hitting whoops fast. The vibrations and Gs the truck hit are huge
Beautiful Truck! The color is killer!
Yeah it is!!
Amazing episode Helio. Great job, tons of info about the build. Now I feel like stopping by their shop 🤪.
You’ll be blown away by the build man. And it’s way more impressive in person.
I went with FMI limit straps and they have performed great.
I am officially saving my money for these upgrades. UNREAL. Just take my money lol gona go get some lottery tickets I’ll be back
🤣🤣 I had the same reaction.
I like the 🇲🇽!!
Kevin and his trucks are awesome. Love my HM suspension setup!
Yep, without a doubt
That’s one bad ass truck, I’d be happy just to drive it to store once! Good video, man. 👍
Thanks man. Fingers crossed 🤞 we may get to drive one.
22:56 🤯probably one hand on the wheel to!
Yeah man. That’s the most impressive part to me. Steering looked so easy on this truck. And where ever Kevin pointed that truck, she went. So stable and just had grip.
And the color is something I wish Ford would go to
Totally agree. It’s a good looking color
I have long travel and this is a straight up beast: we’ll definitely get a run out together soon
We need to feature your rig on the channel next!!
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the section where your saying deep corner is the same
Spot we filmed. That whole section to the left is easy 3 ft plus. Almost have to drift in the whoops to hit it right.
That section is totally nuts. And he was going minimum 65 through there
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad he has more power then me so that’s aweosme but yes we can to be doing 70 plus to get it going
On that downhill section at the beginning, he was hitting 95. Never had clips look fast on their own till I tried to shoot this truck man. It’s crazy fast.
Impressive machine
Having grown up playing and racing in the desert I'm very familiar with offroad racing. When compared to a regular truck with bolt on stuff the level of performance this truck has is on another level. Also IMO anyone who build their trucks with this long travel kit must include a legit cage... If you ball it up at the speeds the truck would be capable of and not have a cage... you're gonna look like spaghetti when it comes to a stop.
Totally agree. This level of performance requires the cage.
Would love to see an extended cab
He’s built a few. He has a 3 recon builds in the pipeline, all extended cab with one that should be done soon and we will do a video on it
What kind of issues has he had with the eco boosts? Curious why he’s so down on them. Insane truck build though! Thanks for the video.
Will have to ask him man. I know the ecoboost platform don’t like heavy HP. And you need at least 600-700 HP to push 40s at a decent speed.
Wow that’s a lot of dough, that’s why you don’t try if you don’t want to buy it. Amazing video has always, i’d buy this before a GT3.
Sick!
Thanks man. Same here. Anyone can get a GT3, very small group of builds at this level out there
Absolutely sick build!! That truck is amazing!
It’s a work of art.
Awesome video!! Very thorough..
Thanks
Kevin @ HM builds the nicest stuff... and once you've been in a real pre-runner... even a full mid travel Raptor is slow...
Dude, I so want a pre runner.
Excellent
Hell yeah was looking forward to this!
Thanks man. Hope you like the video. It’s a little long but too much to cover
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad nah man, was stoked it was long video because I wanted to learn all about it. Especially since they don't have a whole lot on their ig documented! This thing is a BEAST. They are eating whoops for breakfast!
That’s a real Raptor 😍
lol, it many ways it is
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad a dream build for sure. If I lived somewhere close to a lot of desert like you guys, I think I know where my whole paycheck would go to. 😂
Dude, All I could think of afterwards how to make it happen. The built if a work of art on a whole other level
This is a really awesome video!! I needed clarification on the talk about 1-point harnesses. You should include a HANS device if you do anything greater than the standard 3-point harness. A 4-point without a HANS device is more dangerous than a 3-point without a HANS device. Is this true?
Our discussions was about roll cages. Anything last a standard seat belt should not be used unless you have a roll cage.
As for the hans decide, I honestly don’t know. I know it could not hurt to have one but most prerunner owners are not wearing a helmet or HANS device. Only those that are racing competitively do. And at that point safety equipment is dictated by the racing organization
Mind blowingly beautiful 🫠 im just happy to finally own a raptor… that beast or even half that beast would be a dream truck!!! You and your son made it look like it was such an amazing ride. Lol
Dude, that truck blew our minds. Never experienced something so fast. It’s a wild ride
May be your best work to date. Tell him when I win lotto I’m buying that truck. I love the color too.
Thanks man 🙌🙌 , and your going to have to stand in line man. When I win, I’m getting mine done first!
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad but, but, I need one for the mean streets of the suburbs of NYC.
Oh man, will it even fit in the streets out there?
I have a h&m racing design on my 2013 ford raptor and it is a great kit.
Everyone I know that has his kits is super happy
The only think is that i would rather fox QAB than king shocks. I have RPG RST18 with 3.5” fox QAB and is very easy to tweak
You have to the the first I’ve heard say that while the fox valves are easer too adjust, everyone raves that the kings perform better out of the box.
Some shops just prefer fox, because that’s what they know. While others swear by kings. Kings are a little more difficult to adjust. But they are also easier to service and it’s easier to get parts for them. I personally wish I was on Kings after my experience with thess race fox and trying to get parts from Fox
So sick! Any idea what the green color is called? Thanks
I think it’s army green or something like that. I’ll check with HM and if they know I’ll Post it here
Amazing video! How noticeable is the clicking from the bypass valves when riding in the cab? I'm assuming it's exaggerated in the frame mounted Gopro footage since the bypass shocks are also mounted to the frame. Always wondered about that. Thanks and I hope one of these builds is in your channels future! Looks like a perfect tax deductible business expense to me. "work truck"😉
You can hear it in the cab. In the clips in this video you can hear it. It can get loud, specially when your going fast down the trail and that’s why head sets are a must offroad with these trucks.
They do insulate the cab with dynamat material but because the shocks are connected to the frame and cage, all the noise cannot be dampened out of the cab. That’s why full cage builds are not for everyone
If this thing had a transfer case it would be perfect!
4wd at those speeds is more that twice the cost
Wow is there anyone in Australia doing this that thing is incredible.
There has to be someone down under making prerunners. You guys have tons and tons of trails. I know aussies are more into the Toyotas and mudding type rigs because of the crazy rain you guys can get, but there has to be prerunner shops down there.
Thanks for replying yes there is I've started looking into so glad I came across your channel.
How does this kit compare with the Kibbetech F150 Long Travel Kit. Having a comparison video with your no-nonsense expert opinion will be nice.
Me too man. But Kibbitech is very protective of their trucks. The few times I’ve tried to ask to film them, I’ve been told no.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Hope they agree and we get your comparison video to see which is the best of the two
BADASS!!! Enough said
It really is!!
WOW!!! great video, is ford F250 XLT a good base truck or F150 is better
F150 is the better truck. Much lighter and the 5.0 power train is much better for off-roading.
F250 is way, way too heavy.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Thanks for the reply.
That's a badass truck, makes my Gen One Hennessy a little jealous. LOL
Is there an update to HM's information, it looks like his Instagram page is gone?
Looks like he changed his name on IG, I just updated if you want to go check out his page.
He makes some of the best suspension setups on the market for raptors
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad
Awesome, thank you very much!
I want one of these trucks.
You and me both man.
What color is that, Gerber green spinach? … Love that color, and the truck is SICK! 😎🛻🍷
Will have to ask. It looked black on the trails from a distance and you could not tell it’s green till closer up. Looked so good.
That suspension is unreal. Would love to see these trucks in Australia but we are so regulation heavy there is no way they'd be road legal here.
Probably not. They are technically not road legal here in some states
awesome video
Thanks man
I have owned my 5.4 raptor for 9 years. Im thinking of upgrading to a roush raptor. Or should I swap a coyote or a 6.2 in my truck ?
That’s a tough one man. Coyote is by far the best option because of the aftermarket for it. But raptors are hard to pass up yoo
Hi, I just want to know where I could buy one, I’ve searched for their website incessantly, but it doesn’t come up
HM will be getting he site up soon. But he’s a small shop. His contact info is below if you want a quote, and soon we will be helping him sell and quote these kits.
Man, I need to win the lottery 😂
You and I both. I so want one. But would have to sell my house and live in this thing to get one
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Convince the wife to Buy an RV...Hahah!!!
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I grew up in sand cars let’s be honest it don’t take that long to buckle up if you know how to get out of them. You gotta loosen em up first then pop the buckle off. Then it’s easy to strap in when you get back in if. I used to do it while driving/leaving the hill. Takes a minute
And not the metaphorical “minute” for a long time but an actual minute
If you have experience with them sure. I saw Eddie and Kevin here strap up quick. But the rest of us new to harnesses we would take what felt like a lifetime.
It's a bit of a stretch to call it a Raptor R killer when it's in an entirely different universe than a (still very cool) factory stock truck. And I'm guessing at 3x the price. So sick!
Sorry man. It’s a little bit of click bait because of the timing of the video. But for my money, I would rather build this than the Raptor R anyway.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad No worries, I commented for the algo anyway! More views of this beast is a great thing.
Thanks man. Much appreciated 🙏🙏
Quick question. If one wanted just the suspension, can you get that without getting the cage or the V8?
Cage is required for the rear suspension. Can’t do that much travel without a cage. But he was a version of the front kit for non caged trucks prices similar to your typical bolt kit / mid travel kit. That’s the 92 and 94 kit he was talking about
Was planning to go full SVC 4link with front mid travel kit but now…
SVC linked kit still has its place man. Specially if you don’t want a caged truck.
But the HM kit is something else man. More travel up front in 2wd, the reinforcement they do is next level (no other shop does this much), and it’s race proven design.
The Only Ford I’d Buy & a GT, but it is a Full Body Race Truck
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25:05 😂😂😂.
He’s too funny
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Will your products support the 1st gen,?
HM suspension kits are for all Raptors and F150s. Since the shock bucket is completely replaced and the whole area is reinforced, they kit can fit any late model ford truck as the front frame geometry without the shock buckets is the same.
So your truck built the way it is really wouldnt be able to take that terrain at least at half the speed the HM truck was going? Or is it because your suspension isnt tuned for that currently?
My truck can take on whoops that are about 1-1.5 ft deep. With tuning I may be able to go a little deeper but not much.
At Barstow you have whoops that are 2-3 ft deep and you need race truck suspension to handle those fast. I don’t have enough suspension travel and my back is bucking way too much to handle those.
Wow sickk!!
It’s a killer truck. Whole other level of builds
I remember when these guys started in Ramona then moved to San Marcos... I thought they were out of biz(HM)?!
They are currently in Temecula. And he did stop for a while this past year thanks to an awful partner that drove the business into the ground. Luckily that POS a is gone and it’s just Kevin now doing some of the best designs in the business
Same place I do Army Training
Yeah, very close to a few military bases out there
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Go to FT Hunter Liggett they have some nice trails up in the mountains in there back 40 that’s another base I train at
If they are on the base, no way we can access them. At least not legally
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the back 40 anyone can access
Ah ok. Different fort. I was thinking Ft Irwin near Barstow
What’s the difference between a pre runner and a trophy truck
Frame, Windshields and AC.
Trophy trucks are usually a full custom tube chassis with no windows and no comfort features. Body is all fiberglass too
A prerunner is based on a frame truck and cab. Most of the frame is removed and or reinforced and you keep comfort features like AC, stereo, windshield, etc…. So it’s the more drivable truck. Trophy truck has to be trailered everywhere while a prerunner can be driven around the streets
So H&M is back and running? I’ve been wanting a kit from them for my 10th gen so bad
Yeah man. Back and without the old partner. Just Kevin and a great kid that’s helping him and he’s improving on his kits to make them the very best kit on the market for F150s and Raptors
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah man I know, after seeing the juggernaut and other f150s blasting through whoops I knew what kit I wanted , but yeah I’m glad they’re back I’m business, I know where my money is going
Make sure you get a hold of them quick man. He’s going to be getting busy quick
what is the reason a 5 point harness on something without a cage dangerous?
Anything more than a 1 point lap belt gives you a false sense of security. You may think you can run faster than the capabilities of the truck and if and when you get in trouble, the stock roof cannot handle a roll over.
With conventional seats belts or a lap belt, if you roll you can move out of the way and stay safe. With a 5 point harness your strapped in and your dead the moment the roof collapses and you cannot get out of the way. There is no cage to keep the roof from collapsing on you and killing your.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thank you for the info
Who makes the shifter for when in manual mode?
Not sure. This is something custom they made for this truck. I’ll ask Kevin and get back to you.
Love the build just hate when ppl take a F150 build it then steal the Raptor looks. If u want a “ superior F150 with a 5.0 then be proud of that. Don’t try to pretend it’s a Raptor by making it look like one. Again not saying the build isn’t badass, it’s second to none
They don’t make an F150 styled fold out fiberglass hood. No one would buy it 🤷♂️.
And let’s be honest here man. This is far superior than a raptor. Does not matter if the base is an f150 or not. This truck is on a whole other level and the styling don’t matter
There is no denying this is better than a Raptor or Raptor R… TRX …. Hell a TRX Redeye ( if they make it lol) my point was it always seems ppl want to copy the looks then call it a Raptor killer ( in this case rightfully so)
I have headers and true duel exhaust 3in all the way out with two outlaws. Is there a certain muffler on that and is it just a single exit?
Single exit with headers I think.
How much does it go for? Interested
We went over pricing in the video. It’s not cheap but way less than you think considering the performance
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad missed that then! my bad, will rewatch 😜
How much is a kit to convert a raptor gen 2?
Kit cost about the same as an SVC and RPG kit at $17,700 plus installation. And you get a true long travel kit, with longer shocks that perform so much better.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for the quick reply and sharing what you are able to provide! I recently converted my 2011 ram 2500 to a full Thuren off road suspension set up and it was night and day different than stock. Since then I sold that truck and bought a gen 2 raptor which I do love. It is great to see how you transform these trucks! Great work.
2 wheels drive?
Yep.
Very nice
🙏🙏 it’s even more impressive in person.
I need to know how you got it to sound like that. What exhaust
It’s a custom exhaust that dumps out under the cab plus the tube and supercharger. It sounds even better in person. Contact Kevin for more details and he can hook you up.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I have headers and true duel exhaust 3in all the way out with two outlaws. Is there a certain muffler on that and is it just a single exit?
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I have the 6.2 model
Supercharged?
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad is going to be.
Where can you buy this Ford truck?
Contact Kevin at HM to have him build you one. Contact info in the description
Feel prerunners are 2wds make me like my 2wd f150 so much better going over train tracks feeling like I'm doing something!
🤣🤣 just put some 40s on it and it will be the same
Does anyone have a price on the HM 92 and 94 kits? I want to get on the list if it’s in the budget!
Kit price is about the same as an SVC mid travel kit. Just a little bit more because of the shock bucket is completely replaced. Contact Kevin for a quote. His contact details are in the description
Man. I need a new job. This thing is too rad.
We just need to win the lottery to get something like this.
Idk if they do but the only way I could buy a prerunner is if they made long travel that had valving that didn't sound like a crackhead on a typewriter.
🤣🤣🤣 no such thing. Bypass shocks just make noise by design. Some more than others. But they all noisy.
Hey did you know he travel to panama central america to build my kit on the 2013 ford raptor.
Whoa. That’s a long way to go. But the man is all about quality
You cannot compare stock and custom build. Raptor is made with on road (daily) and off-road balance in mind.
🤣🤣 we did not even mention the R in the video. We only mention how the Gen3 is not a good starting point for a prerunner build
Welp, what is getting sold to finance this? Haha, for real man, I can’t go ride in one. I would sell everything including house and kids for one. So capable, with one draw back as he said, “gotta pay to play”!
Helio your channel is awesome! Can’t wait for the next adventure. But for little baby geezus’s sake, stop showing us things we want but can’t have. Jk, show it all
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What was that horrible rattling sound in the cage??
🤣🤣 those are the shocks. Bypass race shocks click and clack like that. The sound is the bypass valves doing their job and a noise you will always hear offroad. The noise is made worse by the cage. Those shocks are connected to the cage and that cage tuning resonated the sound in the cab. If you do a non caged truck with his long travel kits you get similar performance with not as much sound in the cab. You can hear some of it yeah, but not as much.
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get one man lol. i wish i could lol
Same here man. I would have to sell the house, the kid, the wife, maybe the dog. Nah, not the dog to get one.
I may do their 94 kit though. I was blown away by that front end
How satisfying was that to watch bombing it down the desert! Defo need to sweet talk the wife for that set up, sell the kids, sell the wife, sell the house.... keep the puppy 😂😂
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You should see it in person.
Very sexy! How do they compare to SVC?
How does your truck handle smog?
This truck is a few levels up from SVC. SVC kits are nuts mid travel kits. Everything HM a makes is long travel and the amount of reinforcement he does is leaps and bounds more and better than anyone else in the Raptor game
This is literally vehicle porn for me. I'm on my second viewing. please go around the country when you have the chance and break down builds like these, there aren't enough on RUclips with this much detail.
Thanks man. Same here. Planning on it. Got a look at a blitskrieg long travel kit that I will have up on the channel in a few weeks