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so i have bipolar 2, and here’s the thing. bipolar disorder (not bpd, that’s borderline personality disorder, which i also deal with) causes mood swings from manic to depressive. manic state makes you feel like you can do anything and nothing is really in your way. most of us know depression, not feeling like even moving because it doesn’t feel worth is. bipolar sends you through both sides at random or can be triggered. bipolar 2 generally lasts for short amount of times, from hours, to days. bipolar 1 can be extreme and last for days, weeks, months. bipolar undiagnosed leads from 2 slowly (not saying it can’t be a quick change, but usually it’s developed) going to 1 and causes major mental problems. also as you can see he’s showing signs of other personality disorders in the movie (sorry, i haven’t read the book). also, this is just a rundown from somebody with one point of view and one side of a disorder on a spectrum, just like all others. i hope everybody is getting the help they need, it feels a lot better.
wait wait wait... did they not even bring up his abusive father, new stepfamily that made him feel worthless and replaceable, the cardinal story, and his bipolar diagnosis which made him worried about being labelled and stigmatized even more??? These were such important things that helped round out his character, mindset, and depth. Why would they not include such important things???
@@BriaUpNext I know but in other cases (like Harry Potter, The fault in our stars and others) even knowing they cut some things the movie itself works. In this case it doesn't
this is just my theory but i think the filmmakers were treading lightly on these topics esp after 13 reasons why which was arguably not well received esp by mental health professionals and was also adapted from a ya novel. also jennifer niven took part in the screenplay of this film so maybe she had a say on which parts to include or not 🤷🏻♀️
@@guadaferrero6811 they could’ve went more into the mental health aspect of it but if they did that it would have less appeal since it was promoted and advertised as a romance movie (not saying that it’s right)
I swear that's what my mind immediately jumped to vjbkchvj thanks riverdale for presenting us one of the greatest master scene in the history of visual art
omg! literally came here to say that.. like, he spent the whole intro talking about how depressing it was that 2 kids were "not life enthusiasts" but then is instantly ready to KILL the co lead because he ate non snack worthy cheese.. lol
@@amandamichelletenney Not every movie about depression has to be exciting because depression isn't exciting in the first place... Sometimes it takes years of struggling to get out of bed every day.
@@cutieowl347 the whole point of movies is to be somewhat entertaining. it might be a challenge to make a film abt depression and have it be concurrently exciting but that's the challenge u should overcome if u're set on making the film
@@pia1945 movies don't have to be exciting in order to be entertaining. As long as it has a good and intriguing story it will be a good film. A film could be the most exciting but still be a shit film. To be honest excitement is merely a crutch for film makers these days. True stories and stories based on real life are rarely ever "exciting" but can still be intriguing and entertaining. That's why these kinds of films or shows are often called "slice of life".
@@SailorDee don't. One of my friends has been writing on and off on a book vor about 10 years. 81 chapters so far. She will finish it this year. So have faith in Dylan 😁
@@thestorywasbetterinmyhead6990 OMG WHY CAN I PICTURE THAT 😂 his mouth full of sour patch kids as he points at a cringe scene “I’m going to say it again I had no creative control in this”
the folded clothes is such a huge thing, that was the part of the movie that was different from the book that really pissed me off, like even that tiny detail was a huge thing that showed finch’s feelings towards what he was doing and his purpose
@@eatwithfanny6648 There is so many reasons why he did it and the movie does not show any of this well at all. But basically, it is implied in the book that Finch is bi-polar, and Finch is always made fun of in school. He always thinks about death (which they don't show in the movie) and he disappears a lot. The book opens with Finch on the edge of a bell tower getting ready to jump when he sees Violet, who is also thinking about jumping. There are a lot more reasons that he does this, and the book gets more into Finch's perspective and how things kind of went downhill for him. It goes into his family life more, and the things that he thinks about. Like in the lake with Violet, he keeps on swimming down thinking about killing himself and wanting to see the other side, but then he remembers Violet and goes back to the surface. But he did well at covers his feeling from Violet and everyone else as well. It is honestly really hard to explain, and I suggest just reading the book because it is a really great book. You will get a lot of the references that are made in the movie and it will give a lot more depth to the characters and the things that they do and say. As Dylan said, they didn't condense the book well into a movie. But it is worth the read. (I don't want to be that person... but I am that person... the book was better)
You know that Dylan is from Wisconsin when he gets angry about someone eating a slice of American cheese. As someone who moved to Wisconsin and learned just how passionate these people are about their cheese, Dylan is a passionate cheese Wisconsinite.
@@littlemissmello agree. it’s all of Europe. Every country here has amazing cheeses that all bring something to the plate from Gouda to Parmesan, Feta or Manchego. Literally no one outside the US eats American cheese. what is that even? The color looks so unnatural
@@adrenalineactivate dude depression effects different people differently. god forbid someone who doesnt want to live anymore not be talkative or exciting
dylan: i don’t wanna be that guy who’s like “tHiS iSnT liKe tHe bOOk” also dylan: ya know, i don’t remember this from the books, they did it differently here...
They did a LOT differently. I was super excited when it came out and i started crying of joy then of sadness because i saw they changed the freaking beginning😭😭
Yesss, this! Imo they didn't even properly show what depression/being suicidal looks like from the outside. Its often not someone visibly looking sad 24/7 while whispering all their wirds. It often shows up as irritation/anger at the slightest inconvenience. Outbursts of emotion. And yes even laughing too hard, being too cheery at any given moment only to switch into anger/crying the next. The exhaustion she shows is not a bad portrayal imo but it would have made a better movie and been less one-dimensional perspective if they had given the actress some range.
Listening the Dylan talk about this movie made me think of this British flick I came across that Really got depression across for me. It's called Pelican Blood. Quite a few of the story beats are really close to that movie as well... it's a little weird. (What's weirder is that the main character of Pelican Blood straight up is OBSESSED with bird watching and the main character's name for this is Finch... which didn't help making me think this was a thing on its own. I know that's not actually a similarity though.) The main character of Pelican Blood is even OCD so he keeps things super neat. A lot of similarities with that movie, is all I'm saying, but Pelican Blood felt way closer to what depression is actually like.
It almost feels like mental illnesses get 'fetishised' in these sort of stories. A good support system, love and care are important to getting better but it's not the 'solution'.
The fact that the movie wasn't even close to how depressing the book was. The movie skipped out on so many details and so many variations that were actually really touching. I didnt even watch it because without those bits the movie wasn't great at all. They missed the entire bell tower scene which signified so many things. The book version felt more connected and had a really nice flow and the events actually had a deeper meaning behind it unlike the movie which felt like everything was put togather here and there. I remember crying for a week after reading the book
Exactly! I couldn't stop thinking about the book for a while back in time. And it was really special for me, because I was going through hard times. I wish I never watched the movie. But i waited for it for years. Actually I knew it wouldn't be like the book the moment I saw the cast choice for finch. And I watched the whole movie complaining about every detail they skipped. Ugh
@@tugba3415 yes the story connected really well to me. It honestly felt like I lost someone who I love aswell. I remember that week I was thinking every now and then "how Theo could have been saved" I literally told everyone about it and recommended it to so many people. The movie was a huge disappointment. But what can you expect. Most Netflix movies that are derived from stories and animations are terrible
Honestly! I only watched the movie and people were saying how good All the Bright Places was and I was so confused because even though I didn't read the book, I already knew the movie missed so much things! I thought it was just me who found the movie disappointing and lacking things.
Well depression isn't always about being moody or sad. There's this struggle between wanting to seem fine so as to convince yourself, and wallowing in it.
that's true. But as someone who has experienced it, I think a lot of movies fail to portray it accurate. They either make the character all dark and moody or so happy the audience doesn't believe that the character is suffering. The thing about depression is a lot of people try to appear happy because they don't want to alert or upset they're loved ones. During that stage is when one is looking for something to grasp and not let go So, someone might _look_ happy but inside they're suffering. In books, it's easier to describe it because you have the benefit of only using words to write a story. In big screen, it's harder and requires all the team: screenwriter, director, cast etc to be talented and to have a vision
@@md.johnson6181 hmm, personally I didn't like the portrayal of the boy at all. I'm not sure if that's the fault of the actor or the writing team 🤷🏻♀️
The book portrayed it so accurately and Finch's character is kinda butchered in the movie. They don't show how sad he is in the book. At all. As someone with clinical depression, I related to Book Finch so much better. He looks happy to other people but the movie doesn't show what's below the surface. At all
i think that he needed to portray "sadness" even if he didn't look sad. which, yes, isn't easy. but that's kinda what an actor is meant to do. i'll give it to the screenwriters and director for not being able to translate his depression correctly and not so much to the actor.
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude depression, at least in the cast of bipolar disorder which is what finch has, doesn’t really present as sadness, it’s more of an emptiness than anything. and he only has manic episodes during the movie/book and the depressive episodes aren’t shown. they are just described as ‘the asleep’
Here is the thing with grief, you survive it one time, you know you can survive it the second time. It's like being thrown into a deep dark pool, the first time you think you are going to drown, the second time you know you can swim.
@@wwaxwork I am not sure if that is true for everyone. I feel like the grieving process is not the same for every death and grief is not something you get "used to" or get "good at" handling. Maybe some people do but I don't think that most do.
@@piuni8135 it’s the other way around;most carry on with their lives, but some simply cannot move on. It’s the more sensitive people out there that grab on to every loved one and make them a part of themselves, only to lose them and forget who they are.
frrr they could have made it way more thought-provoking. As someone who doesn't have depression, I would loove if they'd give insight into what it's like to struggle with it, or how to be there for someone with depression, instead of making it look like a personality trait. tho ik YA movies aren't made for educational purposes, so das on me. but like they didn't have to make it so friggin boring, I want to gain knowledge, not lose brain cells lol
It's honestly upsetting, because depressed people aren't always just these boring people without personalities. They're normal people just struggling through an illness.
No, listen, this book means so much to me and I saw the movie and was a bit disappointed with how things turned out. Did I cry? yes, but mainly because I was remembering the book while watching.
they look fine on the outside, but even when we were shown him on the "inside", like what he's like when he's alone, he's still chipper skipper even to himself when he doesn't have to hide anything from anyone. From what it sounds like, they should have shown more from his perspective.
Imo they did such a bad job showing his depression that I just thought he drowned at the end because he had one of his spacey moments rather than killed himself
@@mairi4941 I read the book a LONG time ago but from what I remember I think they did a good job of portraying Finch's depression because of the monologues. Haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if it did an accurate job or not.
finch is bipolar, not simply depressed. the montages were the moments of mania, he was happy, he could function, he was "awake" and in control, and although slightly chaotic and intense, he was there. after the night spent with violet, and how it could easily be almost "ruined" in a way, finch was reminded of how vulnerable and temporary these "happy" moments were. so every day those sticky notes were his reasons to stay present, stay awake, and stay alive. he was flashing in and out of it, as bipolar people do (shown when in the restaurant he would dissociate) but violet could at least bring him back. after that morning, it was like the flip of a switch (again, bipolar! anything can make you manic/depressive, you can literally do a complete emotional 180 in a minute) and finch was in a worse place because he lost his reason to stay awake (violet). you may think it was dramatic, but its important to remember: 1. hes a teenager, adolescents are more irrational and emotional as a byproduct of hormones, 2. he is bipolar, in the nature of the disorder, emotional extremes and fast changing moods are commonplace, 3. finch had already been struggling, flashing between mania and depression. something like this could definitely tip the scale, as violet had been pulling him out, but the people we love cannot be there to help us all of the time. i dont think there was a mistake in filming how they did -- showing montages of happiness, and then random bouts of anger, sadness, depression, etc. as someone with bipolar disorder, that is what my life looks like. and we can interpret this mistakenly as a love story, where we should like the couple and ship them together forever, or we can follow the intentions of the movie and novel and understand that this is reality (or supposedly, a depiction of it). for finch, he was fixated on violet, he probably did love her in his own way. we do not need to love violet, we just need to understand that finch loves violet because she is giving him reasons to stay awake at this point. violet loved him because of who he presented himself to be (similar to her, but also a source of happiness) -- she was traumatized, and that lead to her depression, whereas finch is clinically mentally ill (he did have "aggressors" and life factors that contributed to the presentation and intensity of his disease, but despite these, he is sick inherently, as bipolar disorder is not a result of trauma, emotional states, or life events. it is an unchangeable state of being, bipolar people are born bipolar and need diagnosis, treatment, and medication. violet was depressed as a result of a life event, a different kind of "illness" in a sense, but still completely valid and worth talking about). once that fixation was broken, and his reality set in (that this "love" was vulnerable, temporary, and no longer reliable in terms of a reason to stay "awake"), he slipped back into a depression, and he killed himself. we have to remember, this is not a love story. the book was a million times better, and i related to it so much it is one of my absolute favorites. but the movie i feel, in a much less effective way, tried to capture the true message. it was received as a fucked up love story, rather than what it truly is -- its a glimpse into mental illness, with aspects of our true experience. we want to love, we want to live, but sometimes (a lot of the time) we have to give ourselves reasons to keep going. depression never goes away, we can simply be distracted by it. violet was a distraction (although finch didnt know it), and once the illusion of his mania was shattered, there was no more distraction and he faced his depression. he lost the battle, and although he did have those happy moments and on the outside he didn't "seem THAT depressed", it is the truth of how quickly our mental states can change (especially for bipolar people). you are meant to be shocked, youre not meant to see it coming, because he probably didnt either in his mania. but once it hits, it hits like a truck, and it is not supposed to make sense why. he did because he felt he had to -- the reason is not the falling out with violet. the reason is his mental illness. this is very long winded and probably no one will read it LOL. but i hope for maybe one or two people that do, it makes more sense why they filmed this way and why they left the end as they did. life for violet will go on, because people can grow and improve past trauma (of course with resources, assistance, etc.). finch did not have this same opportunity, because he also did not know he was bipolar (he did not have access to the resources he needed to cope) and no one else around him knew either. he died, and it is shocking and heartbreaking, but this is not a love story. this is how life goes for some people :/ (i think its important for me to note that my intention is not to illegitimize violets illness. i want to highlight the difference between violet's depression and finches bipolar disorder. depression is a mental state and a result of chemical imbalances, and it needs treatment just as any other mental illness and needs to be taken very very seriously in order to improve. depression can improve over time. in another light, people with bipolar disorder are unaware that they have bipolar disorder until a diagnosis --finch probably thought he was just depressed. but the actual presence of this disorder changes brain chemistry and alters emotional permeance. its difficult to explain, but bipolar disorder is different because without medication and resources, there is no treatment. a sufferer faces all sorts of labels and stigmas for something they do not know they have and probably do not understand. people with bipolar disorder cannot get eliminate their disorder -- it is permanent. it is a matter of managing the symptoms (in terms of regulating emotional states and minimizing both mania and depression). i hope this makes sense, and i do not mean to offend. i appreciate the movie's display of how these illnesses can interact and how they can present differently.)
*Petition for Dylan to react to classic Barbie movies* Edit: Srry i'm a new Troublemaker, i didn't know he doesn't take recommendations, forget i said this (i'm not gonna delete it tho cuz it has many likes lol) ✌🏻
he was bipolar, dylan. not a psycho at times. he didn't know those moments were him on manic episodes and he didn't know those moments came down to a depressive episode. he never got the help he needed
I think he was more commenting on how the movie portrayed Finch as just this troublesome teenager who acted completely psycho sometimes. Like, Dylan wasn't actually trying to say that the character of Finch, who was mentally ill, was "just a psycho at times". He was trying to say that the movie completely butchered his character and his mental illness in such a way that it made him SEEM like he was just a psycho at times as opposed to someone struggling with an untreated mental disorder. It didn't have enough emphasis on his actual mental illness, just on these random, disjointed episodes that were more confusing and weird than accurate or impactful. Like portraying what was meant to be severe depressive/dissociative episodes (that feeling of not feeling awake, of being on autopilot) as just him randomly zoning out sometimes. The movie didn't actually address any of that in a way that connected into a bigger picture of comprehensive mental illness. It just kind of took Finch's mental illness and twisted it into a bunch of random, seemingly impulsive psychotic episodes and behaviors.
@@zombiesinflannels well i just woke up. How can I answer to such a nicely put response. Yeah I know what he meant. The thing is Dylan doesn't realize he was undiagnosed bipolar. Those "dissociative episodes" weren't just dissociative episodes. It was probably him on manic episodes but he never got to know that! And i don't remember well but the book doesn't specify either. Cause that was the point! He didn't need counseling or support and understanding from friends, he needed to go to the psychiatrist to get diagnosed. He was labeled weird and psycho cause no one had an answer for his actions not even himself. Lol i may or may not have commented that in that way cause it makes me mad that people don't realize he was bipolar. And i probably missused Dylan's words because why not. Thats it. The story hits way to close and it makes me mad not many people realize he was undiagnosed bipolar and that killed him. He died not knowing what was happening to him. But ye
Okay, this may sound stupid but I read this book once it came out and a couple years ago, and I never realized finch was bipolar. I just thought he had severe depressive episodes, which goes to show how uneducated on mental illness we are despite it being talked about more. Thanks for posting this ❤️
@@Caviidae me too and normally I don't read books before movies, but I read this one and I loved it so when I was the trailer a few years back it was for me
“Yo, these are dark topics. Why you making jokes?” It doesn’t have to be fiction. Lots of people who go through significant emotional events use humor to cope. I do it, always making jokes not just after terrible things happen to me, but during them. I get that some people aren’t comfortable with it, but no one should judge you for it.
Right, I was talking to one of my friends about something that happened to me and I was making jokes about it to stop myself from crying in the middle of class lol and then someone overheard me and complained about me making THEM uncomfortable.
I agree, at the cancer hospital a lot of doctors had a very dry sense of humor and with my friends when we talk about tragic events we always make some black humour jokes because it makes it easier to talk about without breaking down
and that's okay, because your joking about yourself and your experiences, I personally think that type of humour crosses a line when it's directed at someone (unless they consent to that)
When he asks about Eleanor, it reminds me of dialogue scenes in video games where you have to decide which of four options you want to pick, and it’s just silence until you pick one
I think that violet and finch are to show different ways people live with mental illness. Like how Violent was obviously visibly depressed she wasn’t talkative she was easily irritable where as Finch was very enthusiastic and full of life but he still was dealing with the same thing. So I think Finch liked violet bc he saw himself in her like when he’s “not awake” so he probably thought he could wake her up too.
The thing is this movie completarla ignored the seriousness of finch mental illness. Hell, it feels like it’s all about her when she’s just the side of his story
Maybe a good smoked gouda, or something a lil risque like gorgonzola or very sharp like pecorino. Not a Kraft singles lady. But hey, hes not a cheese snob, he said hes perfectly content with mozzarella string cheese.
The book legit made me cry for three hours straight. The movie just made me feel really neutral. Especially the way they handled the funeral and Violets discovery of the body
the movie IS SO DIFERENT TO THE BOOK AND THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS MISSING im not tryna be that person, even though im already that person but like wtf????
The book is, at least for the most part, his side of the story and what he's thinking. He was like the main character and that's why it hit me so hard as the story becomes more and more Violet's story as Finch's mental health gets worse and worse, and when you notice that, you know what's going to happen but even when it does happen, it's a shock. It really related to me with personal deaths I've experienced, especially with the sister's death the denial, shock, blaming yourself, feeling like you can't move on with your life without them, feeling guilty for moving on and being happy without them, fearing you're gonna forget them, anger that people who never seems to care before are now pretending to care. The book really related to me on a personal level, and honestly the movie just didn't.
I wrote a similar story to this in high school. A boy was on a ledge about to jump because he was depressed and a girl saw him about to jump, paused, they made eye contact, and then she just kept walking. That pissed the guy off so he got off the ledge and went home. Then he found out she also went to his school. Things built up from there. I turned it in for my creative writing class. Teacher gave me a C and said it was unrealistic.
well she was kinda right I think. If I'm going to jump I won't stop just because I'm pissed someone didn't stop me but continue to walk... on the contrary.
This sounds like the sort of story a lot of people in the book community would obsess over! As for being realistic, I for one would be pretty enough to be like "oh you're just going to walk away? Well guess what, I won't do it". Sometimes the actions of others can prompt a snap decision. Kinda sad that your teacher didn't appreciate you writing about a sensitive topic.
I did make it through the whole movie, I also thought that it was so boring. I haven’t read the book yet, but I am assuming that it is better than the movie. It usually is
I read this book years ago and I fell in love with it every single part of it. Finch's character was amazing and when I heard that they were making the movie I was so excited but it was such a letdown. The book portrayed both points of view of the characters but the movie revolved around Violet I wanted to have hope for the movie and watched it till the end but it had an awkward feel to it because they rushed it. The reason it wasn't sad was that it revolved around Violet and didn't get to see how much Finch was going through. He was bipolar and he had moments, where he felt like he blacked out like Dylan, said he in the movie it makes it seem like he a creep like with the sticky notes they had a reason they were reasons for him to be happy or keep going he would adopt different personalities. but in the book, he is trying to help her.
Does anyone else love when he reads the book and then watches the movie. I just think it adds so much more because books a generally so much more detailed and add character motivation, so he can explain whats going on...
"Am I gonna be that annoying guy like this is different in the books" lmaoo that was me the entirety of this movie & my boyfriend begged me to shut up about it
he’s dressed like someone writing a book at a coffee shop
He's got the haircut and glasses for that too
fairly accurate
That turtleneck with glasses looks great
He’s got the hair dangle=struggling artist😂
@@pickles9872 Lala Land video reference?
he wasn't just depressed, he was undiagnosed bipolar. that actually explains his behavior a lot better.
Yes but the movie didn’t say so. So it is trash because of it
What does undiagnosed bipolar means
@@munchuntiwari4580 I'm pretty sure it means he wasn't diagnosed
so i have bipolar 2, and here’s the thing. bipolar disorder (not bpd, that’s borderline personality disorder, which i also deal with) causes mood swings from manic to depressive. manic state makes you feel like you can do anything and nothing is really in your way. most of us know depression, not feeling like even moving because it doesn’t feel worth is. bipolar sends you through both sides at random or can be triggered. bipolar 2 generally lasts for short amount of times, from hours, to days. bipolar 1 can be extreme and last for days, weeks, months. bipolar undiagnosed leads from 2 slowly (not saying it can’t be a quick change, but usually it’s developed) going to 1 and causes major mental problems. also as you can see he’s showing signs of other personality disorders in the movie (sorry, i haven’t read the book).
also, this is just a rundown from somebody with one point of view and one side of a disorder on a spectrum, just like all others. i hope everybody is getting the help they need, it feels a lot better.
@@munchuntiwari4580 means someone has it but a psychiatrist hasn't officially diagnosed them with it
Dylan is slowly turning into the "this wasn't how they did it in the book" guy and i am loving it.
Me too, I'm usually that person so I'm enjoying it
as he should!
I'm usually this person 😂
like the amazing Dominic Noble!
yep, he basically becomes my spirit animal
Dylan referring to her as “cheese slice” is fucking sending me
HAHAHAHAHA
LMAO
Him calling depressed people boring is sending me 💀
19 minutes and 43 seconds of Dylan feeling superior because he read the book before watching the movie
This is literally me everytime I read the book before any movie
I mean... I don't blame him xd
As a reader I can confirm this is what we do😂
literally some harry potter fans
And I love it
Dylan: “are violets even flowers”
Roses are Red violets are blue poem: “Am I a joke to you?”
That might be the best version of that poem I've ever read
This is an absolute genius comment here folks.
omg:O u-r-a-genius. period. never laughed like that cause of a comment
Lemme fix that real quick
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Dylan is in trouble
‘Am I a joke to you’
@@mirelle_oz Damn it, you already did it xD It rhymed so well in the original comment so it was screaming to be made into a poem.
wait wait wait... did they not even bring up his abusive father, new stepfamily that made him feel worthless and replaceable, the cardinal story, and his bipolar diagnosis which made him worried about being labelled and stigmatized even more??? These were such important things that helped round out his character, mindset, and depth. Why would they not include such important things???
I didn't read the book before watching the movie and i didn't get anything. I was like what the hell is going on with this dude?
They can’t fit everything in the book into a 1 hr 30 mins movie. the book itself takes between 4-5 hours to read.
@@BriaUpNext I know but in other cases (like Harry Potter, The fault in our stars and others) even knowing they cut some things the movie itself works. In this case it doesn't
this is just my theory but i think the filmmakers were treading lightly on these topics esp after 13 reasons why which was arguably not well received esp by mental health professionals and was also adapted from a ya novel. also jennifer niven took part in the screenplay of this film so maybe she had a say on which parts to include or not 🤷🏻♀️
@@guadaferrero6811 they could’ve went more into the mental health aspect of it but if they did that it would have less appeal since it was promoted and advertised as a romance movie (not saying that it’s right)
Finch: “what are you most afraid of”
Violet: “being ordinary”
Dylan: “I’ve got some bad news for you”
Dawg I died
LOL every time he replaced her face with a piece of cheese I died so hard
@@sarahdavid147 SAME
Nobody:
Finch: In case you haven’t noticed, I’m weird. I’m a weirdo. I don’t fit in and I don’t wanna fit in.
Have you ever seen me without this stupid hat on? That’s weird.
Basically "I'm not like the other girls" but as a guy then?
Lmao in all fairness in the books he was constantly called a freak by his peers a LOT.
My first thought😭💀
I swear that's what my mind immediately jumped to vjbkchvj thanks riverdale for presenting us one of the greatest master scene in the history of visual art
Guy: *eat cheese slice*
Dylan: *death penalty*
Dylan: also from Wisconsin 🧀
😂😂
Kraft is not cheese. Also the best cheese curds are made out of Ellsworth, WI🧀
@@haleykat9788 what do you mean, it’s not cheese. Like, I agree, it’s not the best, but what else would it be? Certainly not vegetables!
omg! literally came here to say that.. like, he spent the whole intro talking about how depressing it was that 2 kids were "not life enthusiasts" but then is instantly ready to KILL the co lead because he ate non snack worthy cheese.. lol
Everyone saying that Dylan looks like Flynn Ryder but in this video I swear he is Milo from Lost City of Atlantis
He's slowly becoming all the main male Disney characters... Can't wait for him to turn into the hunchback of notre dame xD
@@Metzli LMAO
Omg he really is
In this video he gives me strict Trey Kennedy vibes
Yesss that guy😂 I've been trying to figure out who I think he looks like and you're so right😂
He looks exactly like that Atlantis guy with the sweater
He does 😂😂😂
Milo 😂
You mean Michael J. Fox?
You read my mind wtf 😂
Why is this so accurate!?!?
Dylan: watches a movie about teenagers struggling with depression
Also Dylan: "I'm waiting for this movie to get exciting"
Dylan: “when do we get to the ride?”
People with depression who Know Better: “This IS the ride.”
A movie can be about depression and still be captivating/interesting (Garden State, Melancholia, Cake) this just wasn't it
@@amandamichelletenney Not every movie about depression has to be exciting because depression isn't exciting in the first place... Sometimes it takes years of struggling to get out of bed every day.
@@cutieowl347 the whole point of movies is to be somewhat entertaining. it might be a challenge to make a film abt depression and have it be concurrently exciting but that's the challenge u should overcome if u're set on making the film
@@pia1945 movies don't have to be exciting in order to be entertaining. As long as it has a good and intriguing story it will be a good film. A film could be the most exciting but still be a shit film. To be honest excitement is merely a crutch for film makers these days. True stories and stories based on real life are rarely ever "exciting" but can still be intriguing and entertaining. That's why these kinds of films or shows are often called "slice of life".
I feel like a proud parent, watching Dylan develop a fashion sense other than blindingly white t-shirts 😭
LMAOO
Fr 💀his fashion has evolved so much
Lmfao same like he’s come so far
HAHAHAHAHAH
I need to steal that lewk
Dylan: I think violet is just a color
Me: Dylan say it with me, “Roses are red, VIOLETS are BLUE...
😂😂😂
Dylan forgot, they exist too
lol.
SAME BYE
Fuck i totally forgot too ahahhahahaahahhaah
Okay sooo...
When do we collectively start pressuring him to watch the Barbie movies?
NOW
Any Aaron and Jo watchers out here?🙌
@@MaybeLily1234 AYOOOO SUP
YES
He hates it when people tell him what movie/serie to watch. He'll most likely not watch any brbie movie if people would bombard him with it
Movie: Sad, depressed, suicidal Girl
Dylan: She’s CHEESE 🧀
Not just any cheese, American cheese *taps head twice for dramatic effect*
i feel like even a depressed person would be more fun then her.
typical Wisconsin
nobody:
Dylan the second a character does something he doesn't like: i hope they die in the end
me: hA comedy
ohmygod- i cackled at this comment so bad, my parents are concerned for me now hahahaha
That smile though. Said it all "consider this ending spoiled"
Me:worth it for that joke
Funny enough i'm reading a book called "They both die at the end"
@@mukanzi2228 you telling me thats the title of the book😂💀
@@Eli_ana Yup😂 The author is Adam Silvera
"You're all the colours at once, at full brightness."
My man just called her Bright White, lmao.
🤭🤭🤭
The most non offensive way to call somebody white😂.
Call me white without calling me white
Ultra violet remarkeyable (Violet Marley)
20 seconds in and dylan is already talking about his “novel”
I have faith it’ll be good
At this point, idk if I believe it’s real
we've been waiting for so long
I've given up at this point lolol
@@SailorDee don't. One of my friends has been writing on and off on a book vor about 10 years. 81 chapters so far. She will finish it this year. So have faith in Dylan 😁
Imagine in like years Dylan reacting to a movie adaptation of his own book
Omg I would LIVE for this! All his "this is not how I wrote it" and "who tf wrote that line!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thestorywasbetterinmyhead6990 OMG WHY CAN I PICTURE THAT 😂 his mouth full of sour patch kids as he points at a cringe scene “I’m going to say it again I had no creative control in this”
I WANNA BE HERE FOR IT 😻😩🤘🏻
@@thestorywasbetterinmyhead6990 I read this in Dylan's voice. lol
the folded clothes is such a huge thing, that was the part of the movie that was different from the book that really pissed me off, like even that tiny detail was a huge thing that showed finch’s feelings towards what he was doing and his purpose
YESS I got mad when they showed it so in the movie.
Can you tell me why finch decided to suicide? I still dont understand why he did that
@@eatwithfanny6648 There is so many reasons why he did it and the movie does not show any of this well at all. But basically, it is implied in the book that Finch is bi-polar, and Finch is always made fun of in school. He always thinks about death (which they don't show in the movie) and he disappears a lot. The book opens with Finch on the edge of a bell tower getting ready to jump when he sees Violet, who is also thinking about jumping. There are a lot more reasons that he does this, and the book gets more into Finch's perspective and how things kind of went downhill for him. It goes into his family life more, and the things that he thinks about. Like in the lake with Violet, he keeps on swimming down thinking about killing himself and wanting to see the other side, but then he remembers Violet and goes back to the surface. But he did well at covers his feeling from Violet and everyone else as well. It is honestly really hard to explain, and I suggest just reading the book because it is a really great book. You will get a lot of the references that are made in the movie and it will give a lot more depth to the characters and the things that they do and say. As Dylan said, they didn't condense the book well into a movie. But it is worth the read. (I don't want to be that person... but I am that person... the book was better)
@@grace.6656 i really appreciate your time to write such elaborate and well written explanation . Thank you so much, i will consider to read the book.
@@eatwithfanny6648 hahaha no problem, ranting is my specialty. But enjoy the book if you end up reading it :)
Dylan: "I think violet is just a color."
Oh, I missed Dylan! 🤣🤣
HE’S BACK ITS MY FAVORITE WHITE BOY!!!!
And that's on God 😭
There he is! There's my favourite white boy! If you know, you know :)
I was literally about to comment this😂😂😂😂 We been missing our boy💕
YASS 😭✋
HAHa I love u
"Not enthused about life," best quote of the day for me.
they FUCKED UP THIS MOVIE the book is my fave and the bell tower scene is absolutely essential to the story like what the hell
Ikr!
I REALLY wanted to like this movie because I’m obsessed with the book but I just couldn’t
i had a feeling the movie was gonna be bad so i didn't watch even though the book is one of my favorites
the movie is great y'all just expected it to be an exact replica of the book when it's not supposed to be lmfao
FR I love the book and they ruined the movie and how they didn't even do the abusive dad and step family that made him feel like sh!t
You know that Dylan is from Wisconsin when he gets angry about someone eating a slice of American cheese. As someone who moved to Wisconsin and learned just how passionate these people are about their cheese, Dylan is a passionate cheese Wisconsinite.
me in the meantime as a Dutch person, looking down at pathetic Wisconsin cheese
@@littlemissmello agree. it’s all of Europe. Every country here has amazing cheeses that all bring something to the plate from Gouda to Parmesan, Feta or Manchego. Literally no one outside the US eats American cheese. what is that even? The color looks so unnatural
@@melz6625 its a chedder dupe of la vache qui rit but i think they added stuff to make it look real 😆
I came to the comments looking for this lmaooooo
@@melz6625 No one outside America eats cheese. Well here in WA we do but are ya suprised, it's American cheese.
Girl: sister died and is suicidal
Dylan: she’s so depressed it’s so boring 😭😭
@Maxwell Long I know... I was joking 🙃
I've seen suicidal people whose more interesting then her, her character is those type of people that gets annoy when they see a random person smile
@@adrenalineactivate dude depression effects different people differently. god forbid someone who doesnt want to live anymore not be talkative or exciting
“don’t be in love with her...she’s cheese!” - Dylan 2021 😂
this line sounds like a deleted scene from that sausage party movie i heard about
@@lovelyjuliexo it honestly could be, coming from someone who watched that movie
dylan: i don’t wanna be that guy who’s like “tHiS iSnT liKe tHe bOOk”
also dylan: ya know, i don’t remember this from the books, they did it differently here...
They did a LOT differently. I was super excited when it came out and i started crying of joy then of sadness because i saw they changed the freaking beginning😭😭
Movies rarely do books justice. You gotta be that guy they give you no choice. Uhg! Dark Tower still irritates me.
I'm glad he was. Now I actually want to read the book! Some parts remind me of Uncle Frank.
I crack up every time Dylan says “that’s what she said” and then looks so freaking proud of himself
This movie shows depression in the most romanticized way and I hate it
Yesss, this!
Imo they didn't even properly show what depression/being suicidal looks like from the outside. Its often not someone visibly looking sad 24/7 while whispering all their wirds. It often shows up as irritation/anger at the slightest inconvenience. Outbursts of emotion. And yes even laughing too hard, being too cheery at any given moment only to switch into anger/crying the next. The exhaustion she shows is not a bad portrayal imo but it would have made a better movie and been less one-dimensional perspective if they had given the actress some range.
Listening the Dylan talk about this movie made me think of this British flick I came across that Really got depression across for me. It's called Pelican Blood. Quite a few of the story beats are really close to that movie as well... it's a little weird. (What's weirder is that the main character of Pelican Blood straight up is OBSESSED with bird watching and the main character's name for this is Finch... which didn't help making me think this was a thing on its own. I know that's not actually a similarity though.) The main character of Pelican Blood is even OCD so he keeps things super neat. A lot of similarities with that movie, is all I'm saying, but Pelican Blood felt way closer to what depression is actually like.
it's like they think depression is a personality trait
Yeah and like a dependent relationship around it.
It almost feels like mental illnesses get 'fetishised' in these sort of stories. A good support system, love and care are important to getting better but it's not the 'solution'.
The fact that the movie wasn't even close to how depressing the book was. The movie skipped out on so many details and so many variations that were actually really touching. I didnt even watch it because without those bits the movie wasn't great at all. They missed the entire bell tower scene which signified so many things. The book version felt more connected and had a really nice flow and the events actually had a deeper meaning behind it unlike the movie which felt like everything was put togather here and there. I remember crying for a week after reading the book
Exactly! I couldn't stop thinking about the book for a while back in time. And it was really special for me, because I was going through hard times. I wish I never watched the movie. But i waited for it for years. Actually I knew it wouldn't be like the book the moment I saw the cast choice for finch. And I watched the whole movie complaining about every detail they skipped. Ugh
@@tugba3415 yes the story connected really well to me. It honestly felt like I lost someone who I love aswell. I remember that week I was thinking every now and then "how Theo could have been saved" I literally told everyone about it and recommended it to so many people. The movie was a huge disappointment. But what can you expect. Most Netflix movies that are derived from stories and animations are terrible
Honestly! I only watched the movie and people were saying how good All the Bright Places was and I was so confused because even though I didn't read the book, I already knew the movie missed so much things! I thought it was just me who found the movie disappointing and lacking things.
Me too i dont wnat to watch the movie bc is horrible
Whoa that was me after watching the film...idk how much longer I'd cry if I read the book!
Well depression isn't always about being moody or sad. There's this struggle between wanting to seem fine so as to convince yourself, and wallowing in it.
that's true.
But as someone who has experienced it, I think a lot of movies fail to portray it accurate.
They either make the character all dark and moody or so happy the audience doesn't believe that the character is suffering.
The thing about depression is a lot of people try to appear happy because they don't want to alert or upset they're loved ones. During that stage is when one is looking for something to grasp and not let go
So, someone might _look_ happy but inside they're suffering. In books, it's easier to describe it because you have the benefit of only using words to write a story.
In big screen, it's harder and requires all the team: screenwriter, director, cast etc to be talented and to have a vision
@@nyxldx I think the movie did a good job at portraying how some people experience but not all obviously
@@md.johnson6181 hmm, personally I didn't like the portrayal of the boy at all. I'm not sure if that's the fault of the actor or the writing team 🤷🏻♀️
@@nyxldx I mean yeah you can dislike it but it still is how some people are
The book portrayed it so accurately and Finch's character is kinda butchered in the movie. They don't show how sad he is in the book. At all. As someone with clinical depression, I related to Book Finch so much better. He looks happy to other people but the movie doesn't show what's below the surface. At all
no one:
Dylan: giving finch advice on how to be Christian grey
oofffff😂😂😂
“He doesn’t look sad” yeah most depressed ppl don’t actually look depressed..
The thing is is not any like his character in the books at all
To others, but you definitely have moments when you’re alone. This didn’t really portray that either (at least at the time he made that comment)
they're always the "Therapy/ Parent/ Goofy" Friend
i think that he needed to portray "sadness" even if he didn't look sad. which, yes, isn't easy. but that's kinda what an actor is meant to do. i'll give it to the screenwriters and director for not being able to translate his depression correctly and not so much to the actor.
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude depression, at least in the cast of bipolar disorder which is what finch has, doesn’t really present as sadness, it’s more of an emptiness than anything. and he only has manic episodes during the movie/book and the depressive episodes aren’t shown. they are just described as ‘the asleep’
The most impressive thing for me is the fact that she lost two VERY important people in quite a short span of time and somehow was still in one piece
IKRRRR
Here is the thing with grief, you survive it one time, you know you can survive it the second time. It's like being thrown into a deep dark pool, the first time you think you are going to drown, the second time you know you can swim.
@@wwaxwork hmmm anyway, the movie deals with that in such a hollow way
@@wwaxwork I am not sure if that is true for everyone. I feel like the grieving process is not the same for every death and grief is not something you get "used to" or get "good at" handling. Maybe some people do but I don't think that most do.
@@piuni8135 it’s the other way around;most carry on with their lives, but some simply cannot move on. It’s the more sensitive people out there that grab on to every loved one and make them a part of themselves, only to lose them and forget who they are.
"Go watch my Tangled video". I've already watched it like a hundred times, Dylan.
ah yes, the "less than happy" and the "non life-enthusiasm", such a poetic sound. this man should write a book some day... well, finish one at least
love the roast lol
He’s been writing that book forever 😂
@@pavithrashaji lmao rightttt, books take long to write though so I think its normal
@@pavithrashaji wait yeah hasnt it been like two years-
I swear I never notice the akward silences on movies. But when he notices I really think HOW THE FUCK I DIDN'T NOTICE??? bc it's always SO LONG
"try being 49 times as fucked up as you are now"
is someone going to tell dylan that 1x49 = 49 and not 50 or 😂
Lmao
That annoyed the hell out of me
We should all know by now that math is definitely not Dylan's strong suit.
STOPHFGGV😭😭🤣
Also hes at least two shades of fucked up according to his wall.
"i had a sister once, her name was eleanor"......"she was killed by ultron, wasn't she?"
NOO HAHA
I love this 😂😭 beautiful connection.
I love tis referance
“Uhhh she’s so depressed...it’s so boring” 😂😂😂
frrr they could have made it way more thought-provoking. As someone who doesn't have depression, I would loove if they'd give insight into what it's like to struggle with it, or how to be there for someone with depression, instead of making it look like a personality trait. tho ik YA movies aren't made for educational purposes, so das on me. but like they didn't have to make it so friggin boring, I want to gain knowledge, not lose brain cells lol
TRUEEE
@@mairi4941 honestly after reading the book, which went into a LOT more detail about stuff, the movie was disappointing...
It's honestly upsetting, because depressed people aren't always just these boring people without personalities. They're normal people just struggling through an illness.
@@amanix10 exactly!
No, listen, this book means so much to me and I saw the movie and was a bit disappointed with how things turned out. Did I cry? yes, but mainly because I was remembering the book while watching.
Yes, same. I searched for the movie and patiently waited for it when I learned it wasn't out yet. Then this happened pft.
late reply but same i was so disappointed with the movie, even though the movie helped me in certain situations
I liked that he wasn’t stereotypically depressed because depression looks different in everyone. And some people look fine on the outside
they look fine on the outside, but even when we were shown him on the "inside", like what he's like when he's alone, he's still chipper skipper even to himself when he doesn't have to hide anything from anyone. From what it sounds like, they should have shown more from his perspective.
Jasmine Dawn Harrington he’s still depressed
Yeah, but without inner monologue you might miss it in movie form... idk
Imo they did such a bad job showing his depression that I just thought he drowned at the end because he had one of his spacey moments rather than killed himself
@@mairi4941 I read the book a LONG time ago but from what I remember I think they did a good job of portraying Finch's depression because of the monologues. Haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if it did an accurate job or not.
Dylan: if anyone out there is a virgin...
My 22 years old ass: taking notes📖🖋
Hello fellow 22 year old virgin
@@justsomeone6954 Now bang
it seems so boring. take your time hahaha
@@biancascandy5001 whoa buddy.
25 yo virgin here 😂
Dylan is like that one friend you see twice a year with whom you have a lot of fun whenever you see them
He really is 😂
finch is bipolar, not simply depressed. the montages were the moments of mania, he was happy, he could function, he was "awake" and in control, and although slightly chaotic and intense, he was there. after the night spent with violet, and how it could easily be almost "ruined" in a way, finch was reminded of how vulnerable and temporary these "happy" moments were. so every day those sticky notes were his reasons to stay present, stay awake, and stay alive. he was flashing in and out of it, as bipolar people do (shown when in the restaurant he would dissociate) but violet could at least bring him back. after that morning, it was like the flip of a switch (again, bipolar! anything can make you manic/depressive, you can literally do a complete emotional 180 in a minute) and finch was in a worse place because he lost his reason to stay awake (violet).
you may think it was dramatic, but its important to remember: 1. hes a teenager, adolescents are more irrational and emotional as a byproduct of hormones, 2. he is bipolar, in the nature of the disorder, emotional extremes and fast changing moods are commonplace, 3. finch had already been struggling, flashing between mania and depression. something like this could definitely tip the scale, as violet had been pulling him out, but the people we love cannot be there to help us all of the time.
i dont think there was a mistake in filming how they did -- showing montages of happiness, and then random bouts of anger, sadness, depression, etc. as someone with bipolar disorder, that is what my life looks like. and we can interpret this mistakenly as a love story, where we should like the couple and ship them together forever, or we can follow the intentions of the movie and novel and understand that this is reality (or supposedly, a depiction of it). for finch, he was fixated on violet, he probably did love her in his own way. we do not need to love violet, we just need to understand that finch loves violet because she is giving him reasons to stay awake at this point. violet loved him because of who he presented himself to be (similar to her, but also a source of happiness) -- she was traumatized, and that lead to her depression, whereas finch is clinically mentally ill (he did have "aggressors" and life factors that contributed to the presentation and intensity of his disease, but despite these, he is sick inherently, as bipolar disorder is not a result of trauma, emotional states, or life events. it is an unchangeable state of being, bipolar people are born bipolar and need diagnosis, treatment, and medication. violet was depressed as a result of a life event, a different kind of "illness" in a sense, but still completely valid and worth talking about). once that fixation was broken, and his reality set in (that this "love" was vulnerable, temporary, and no longer reliable in terms of a reason to stay "awake"), he slipped back into a depression, and he killed himself.
we have to remember, this is not a love story. the book was a million times better, and i related to it so much it is one of my absolute favorites. but the movie i feel, in a much less effective way, tried to capture the true message. it was received as a fucked up love story, rather than what it truly is -- its a glimpse into mental illness, with aspects of our true experience. we want to love, we want to live, but sometimes (a lot of the time) we have to give ourselves reasons to keep going. depression never goes away, we can simply be distracted by it. violet was a distraction (although finch didnt know it), and once the illusion of his mania was shattered, there was no more distraction and he faced his depression. he lost the battle, and although he did have those happy moments and on the outside he didn't "seem THAT depressed", it is the truth of how quickly our mental states can change (especially for bipolar people). you are meant to be shocked, youre not meant to see it coming, because he probably didnt either in his mania. but once it hits, it hits like a truck, and it is not supposed to make sense why. he did because he felt he had to -- the reason is not the falling out with violet. the reason is his mental illness.
this is very long winded and probably no one will read it LOL. but i hope for maybe one or two people that do, it makes more sense why they filmed this way and why they left the end as they did. life for violet will go on, because people can grow and improve past trauma (of course with resources, assistance, etc.). finch did not have this same opportunity, because he also did not know he was bipolar (he did not have access to the resources he needed to cope) and no one else around him knew either. he died, and it is shocking and heartbreaking, but this is not a love story. this is how life goes for some people :/
(i think its important for me to note that my intention is not to illegitimize violets illness. i want to highlight the difference between violet's depression and finches bipolar disorder. depression is a mental state and a result of chemical imbalances, and it needs treatment just as any other mental illness and needs to be taken very very seriously in order to improve. depression can improve over time. in another light, people with bipolar disorder are unaware that they have bipolar disorder until a diagnosis --finch probably thought he was just depressed. but the actual presence of this disorder changes brain chemistry and alters emotional permeance. its difficult to explain, but bipolar disorder is different because without medication and resources, there is no treatment. a sufferer faces all sorts of labels and stigmas for something they do not know they have and probably do not understand. people with bipolar disorder cannot get eliminate their disorder -- it is permanent. it is a matter of managing the symptoms (in terms of regulating emotional states and minimizing both mania and depression). i hope this makes sense, and i do not mean to offend. i appreciate the movie's display of how these illnesses can interact and how they can present differently.)
not sure why part of it is crossed out, i didnt do that :/ probably because its so long haha!
Man you’re tearing me up here. Nice read tho
@@noother7411 thanks! didnt expect anyone to read, but glad what i wrote made sense haha
I read this and cried 😭 this was amazing
@@Emily-taylorsversion- haha thank u! the book was much better than the movie :) highly recommend
the zoom-in on finch's face while the girl was talking about how she tried to kill herself twice and was bulimic was weirdly funny lmao
he’s dressed like the main character,, this is his world 💆🏻♀️ we’re merely breathing his air
“How have you talked... to this cheese slice.... and seen all the colors”
"So you see I picked this weird grass from my lawn the other day..."
Dylan’s Wisconsin side really came out with the cheese rant lol
*Petition for Dylan to react to classic Barbie movies*
Edit: Srry i'm a new Troublemaker, i didn't know he doesn't take recommendations, forget i said this (i'm not gonna delete it tho cuz it has many likes lol) ✌🏻
Naw bruh, now that you wrote this, he highly probably wont do it, because he doesnt takes reccomendation
Boost: What's your favourite food
@@yumnicorn 😭😭😭
YES
As long as he doesn’t react to Barbie Princess and the pauper
Roses are red
Violets are blue
"Yes, it's just a color"
Dylan, what's going on with you?
ahahahahahaha this is so smart lol
hahhaah this is perfect
Uh, violets are flowers
Theres a flower called violet which is you guess it have the shade of blue violet≧∇≦
@@vizionzen4668 Um yes, that's the point of the joke :D
Alt title: Wisconsin Man Goes On Cheese Rant
Dylan: "I love Luke Wilson. He just...fell off the face of the face of the earth. Now he's a dad!"
🤣🤣🤣
The title should've been "Dylan bullying a depressed cheese slice for 20 minutes"
he is straight coming for chris evans in that sweater
BYEEEE
Jen Seedling That's too much like I love Dylan but chill
@@jennas9033 slow down girl don't get carried away
you’re style doe- you do be lookin kinda fresh doe
He do be lookin snazzy
Ok is there a deer in your house
He looks fresh but his necklace kept bothering me
I'm sorry to be that person but
Your*
@@lilsaam HAHAHA
I actually started laughing myself to tears from the way Finch looked at that girl😭✋🏽
he was bipolar, dylan. not a psycho at times. he didn't know those moments were him on manic episodes and he didn't know those moments came down to a depressive episode. he never got the help he needed
I think he was more commenting on how the movie portrayed Finch as just this troublesome teenager who acted completely psycho sometimes. Like, Dylan wasn't actually trying to say that the character of Finch, who was mentally ill, was "just a psycho at times". He was trying to say that the movie completely butchered his character and his mental illness in such a way that it made him SEEM like he was just a psycho at times as opposed to someone struggling with an untreated mental disorder. It didn't have enough emphasis on his actual mental illness, just on these random, disjointed episodes that were more confusing and weird than accurate or impactful. Like portraying what was meant to be severe depressive/dissociative episodes (that feeling of not feeling awake, of being on autopilot) as just him randomly zoning out sometimes. The movie didn't actually address any of that in a way that connected into a bigger picture of comprehensive mental illness. It just kind of took Finch's mental illness and twisted it into a bunch of random, seemingly impulsive psychotic episodes and behaviors.
@@zombiesinflannels well i just woke up. How can I answer to such a nicely put response. Yeah I know what he meant. The thing is Dylan doesn't realize he was undiagnosed bipolar. Those "dissociative episodes" weren't just dissociative episodes. It was probably him on manic episodes but he never got to know that! And i don't remember well but the book doesn't specify either. Cause that was the point! He didn't need counseling or support and understanding from friends, he needed to go to the psychiatrist to get diagnosed. He was labeled weird and psycho cause no one had an answer for his actions not even himself. Lol i may or may not have commented that in that way cause it makes me mad that people don't realize he was bipolar. And i probably missused Dylan's words because why not. Thats it. The story hits way to close and it makes me mad not many people realize he was undiagnosed bipolar and that killed him. He died not knowing what was happening to him. But ye
Okay, this may sound stupid but I read this book once it came out and a couple years ago, and I never realized finch was bipolar. I just thought he had severe depressive episodes, which goes to show how uneducated on mental illness we are despite it being talked about more. Thanks for posting this ❤️
@@gabiminie I mean... I guess you could’ve worded it in a nicer way.
The media seems incapable of accurately portraying mental illness and those who suffer from it. Books, TV, movies... it's really disheartening.
Dylan’s camera is so high quality that I can see his clear skin
@@ninainezaca159 ya ikr I’m im in love with him
6:28 feels like the first time Dylan has ever accomplished a ‘that’s what she said’ joke in his entire life and it’s adorable
Oh, it definitely is not the first time he has accomplished that lol
Can I just say that Dylan actually reading books is so attractive? He LOVES to read like sdkjnfjnsfd wow what a man
And writing 🥰
Not you simping
But also yes
nah its the bare minimum pls
I love how the bar is so low for all of us 😂😭
Thats what I like about this movie. He's severely depressed but on the surface seems happy and healthy even though he's really not.
the book is so much better. i cant even stress it enough. i was honestly so disappointed with this movie
@@Caviidae same,
@@Caviidae Me too
They don't here me cry
@@Caviidae me too and normally I don't read books before movies, but I read this one and I loved it so when I was the trailer a few years back it was for me
dylan: okay make a musical performance in front of your partner
me, a virgin: okay, noted.
As a fellow Wisconsinite, I'm offended you haven't eaten a cheese slice straight from the fridge.
But is Kraft really cheese?
@@real_slim_jadey good point
“Yo, these are dark topics. Why you making jokes?”
It doesn’t have to be fiction. Lots of people who go through significant emotional events use humor to cope. I do it, always making jokes not just after terrible things happen to me, but during them.
I get that some people aren’t comfortable with it, but no one should judge you for it.
Right, I was talking to one of my friends about something that happened to me and I was making jokes about it to stop myself from crying in the middle of class lol and then someone overheard me and complained about me making THEM uncomfortable.
It's a coping mechanism.
I agree, at the cancer hospital a lot of doctors had a very dry sense of humor and with my friends when we talk about tragic events we always make some black humour jokes because it makes it easier to talk about without breaking down
and that's okay, because your joking about yourself and your experiences, I personally think that type of humour crosses a line when it's directed at someone (unless they consent to that)
When he asks about Eleanor, it reminds me of dialogue scenes in video games where you have to decide which of four options you want to pick, and it’s just silence until you pick one
'Not depressed, less than happy.'
This is how I'm describing myself for the rest of time
Dylan getting pissed off that the movie isn't the same as book is giving me life 😂
I think that violet and finch are to show different ways people live with mental illness. Like how Violent was obviously visibly depressed she wasn’t talkative she was easily irritable where as Finch was very enthusiastic and full of life but he still was dealing with the same thing. So I think Finch liked violet bc he saw himself in her like when he’s “not awake” so he probably thought he could wake her up too.
The thing is this movie completarla ignored the seriousness of finch mental illness. Hell, it feels like it’s all about her when she’s just the side of his story
Can I just point out how in each video Dylan gets finer and finer. Like bro his fashion sense has gotten so much better. Lookin good Flynn Rider.
Yesssssssss
I RAN TO WATCH THIS, I DROPPED EVERYTHING
also he looks so good, his style sense has become **chefs kiss**
your profile pic is **chefs kiss**
@@lilyrichardt9988 thank you
“Now I get it! He likes plain shit😃” I SHPULD NOT HAVE LAUGHED SO HARD DYLAN-
“non life enthusiasts”
oh look, Dylan’s describing me
*us
I feel so seen
Guys he's wearing a necklace now
one step closer to Flynn Rider already
isn’t it the iconic $800 gucci necklace hhh
@@zainasoliman8711 no its the one he stole shhhh
@@raveniaswan6672 lmaoooo i was wrong anyways the gucci one was green
@@itsmemoon5815 Dude chill it's a joke lol
i didn’t mean to click on this notif but i guess i’m watching this instead of paying attention to class
lmaooo im in the exact same situation
I have a test so im being forced to leave. Sadly
Same. Who needs Engineering process controls?
Same. I'm supposed to be studying
Yess!! I'm supposed to be taking a quiz too😂
damn that sweater... guys he told us he was improving on his fashion sense
Bro he looks so stylish
You’d have thought that a Wisconsin boy like Dylan would be in love with a woman who reminds him of cheese
Not kraft cheese dude. It's not the same.
@@Air00 thats my point
Maybe a good smoked gouda, or something a lil risque like gorgonzola or very sharp like pecorino. Not a Kraft singles lady. But hey, hes not a cheese snob, he said hes perfectly content with mozzarella string cheese.
The book legit made me cry for three hours straight. The movie just made me feel really neutral. Especially the way they handled the funeral and Violets discovery of the body
the movie just didn't tell the story well at all imo they didn't even tell us Finch's story so his death was not impactful at all
the lock of his necklace is at the front, i'm having a breakdown
😭😭 you just gotta block it out
Me: Very bored *refreshes youtube*
Dylan appears:
✨Bordom cleared✨
Yeah I was about to study for my class but I'll watch Dylan
the movie IS SO DIFERENT TO THE BOOK AND THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS MISSING
im not tryna be that person, even though im already that person
but like
wtf????
I agree. The movie was so disappointing because I love the book so much.
i love your pfp ndjdn
@leydadon yes. You also read his thoughts as well, which is why the movie is lacking so much
The book is, at least for the most part, his side of the story and what he's thinking. He was like the main character and that's why it hit me so hard as the story becomes more and more Violet's story as Finch's mental health gets worse and worse, and when you notice that, you know what's going to happen but even when it does happen, it's a shock. It really related to me with personal deaths I've experienced, especially with the sister's death the denial, shock, blaming yourself, feeling like you can't move on with your life without them, feeling guilty for moving on and being happy without them, fearing you're gonna forget them, anger that people who never seems to care before are now pretending to care. The book really related to me on a personal level, and honestly the movie just didn't.
Book wasnt even that good so the movie is just as bad
That I'm a freak scene got major im a weirdo from riverdale vibes
i’m going to hell for laughing at “and life is not something they want to do...?...anymore”
@Anne Day 🤣🤣😭😭😭
i’ve never heard anyone describe someone as “KRAFT CHEESE” 😭😭
Right 😭
*Kraft as in the brand
Where I live (in Australia) we call it plastic cheese or fake cheese
lmaooo there is a first time for everything 😂
The book is one of my favorite books. I watched the movie with my boyfriend and I was so upset that it was so awkward.
I wrote a similar story to this in high school. A boy was on a ledge about to jump because he was depressed and a girl saw him about to jump, paused, they made eye contact, and then she just kept walking. That pissed the guy off so he got off the ledge and went home. Then he found out she also went to his school. Things built up from there. I turned it in for my creative writing class. Teacher gave me a C and said it was unrealistic.
It's a creative writing class...it doesn't need to be super realistic. Dumb teacher.
I really want to read that
well she was kinda right I think. If I'm going to jump I won't stop just because I'm pissed someone didn't stop me but continue to walk... on the contrary.
@@nanalove3819 just because you wouldn’t respond that way doesn’t mean nobody else would?
This sounds like the sort of story a lot of people in the book community would obsess over! As for being realistic, I for one would be pretty enough to be like "oh you're just going to walk away? Well guess what, I won't do it". Sometimes the actions of others can prompt a snap decision. Kinda sad that your teacher didn't appreciate you writing about a sensitive topic.
as someone who hasn’t read the book, i didn’t even make it the whole way through the movie because i was bored...
bro, pls read the book its SOOOO much better
omg SAME
I was DISAPPOINTED in the movie. I absolutely loved the book, it was one of favourites I’ve read so far
I only watched 3 minutes and gave up 😵
I did make it through the whole movie, I also thought that it was so boring. I haven’t read the book yet, but I am assuming that it is better than the movie. It usually is
I read this book years ago and I fell in love with it every single part of it. Finch's character was amazing and when I heard that they were making the movie I was so excited but it was such a letdown. The book portrayed both points of view of the characters but the movie revolved around Violet I wanted to have hope for the movie and watched it till the end but it had an awkward feel to it because they rushed it. The reason it wasn't sad was that it revolved around Violet and didn't get to see how much Finch was going through. He was bipolar and he had moments, where he felt like he blacked out like Dylan, said he in the movie it makes it seem like he a creep like with the sticky notes they had a reason they were reasons for him to be happy or keep going he would adopt different personalities. but in the book, he is trying to help her.
Does anyone else love when he reads the book and then watches the movie. I just think it adds so much more because books a generally so much more detailed and add character motivation, so he can explain whats going on...
Him: “I’ll be back with, hopefully, a lighter movie”
...Watch him come back with Schindler’s List 😒
😂😂😂😂😂
dylan: *points to a picture of a violet
also dylan: “yeah, i think violet is just a color”
Its crazy how re-watching Dylan's movie commentary's have made my depression so much better
im still not used to this high quality camera
my eyes are just mesmerized
I'm waiting for that day that Dylan watches a movie adaptation about his own YA book
Ohhhh this melted my cold dead heart
I just want to read that beautiful garbage!!
POV : you’re checking his channel to see if he’s posted his reaction to the 3rd to all the boys I’ve loved before....
"Am I gonna be that annoying guy like this is different in the books" lmaoo that was me the entirety of this movie & my boyfriend begged me to shut up about it