Overwatch is getting ANOTHER braindead support...

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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  • @anthonywhite3906
    @anthonywhite3906 2 месяца назад +122

    greed malding at the funny r34 game is always a highlight of the day when he uploads

    • @Fumaeditz
      @Fumaeditz 2 месяца назад +4

      W comment

    • @bilgil_
      @bilgil_ 2 месяца назад +4

      😭

    • @kosmo1638
      @kosmo1638 2 месяца назад +1

      I dont agree with Greed as much for this take about missles, as I think he's mad at it for the wrong reason. It's not so much that missles is a click E and get value button, its that its a click e and get value button, that effects EVERY PLAYER IN THE GAME. I hate shuzu and immortality cuz u can outplay an entire team for them to turn your play into a mistake, turning the fight into a 5v4. Missles on the other hand have guaranteed value for the Juno's team in a team fight, which greatly boosts her ult economy, along with damaging every hero on the other team if she is skilled enough. So basically Moira orb on steroids since it's actually useful, similar to bap's regen burst. She's basically baptiste without a immortality and less burst damage.
      However, she may prove to be more effective in brawl comps since not only does she do everything aside from headshot damage, anti, and immortality, BUT HER ULT HAS NO LOS******AND IS BETTER TRANSCENDENCE, VALK, WINDOW

    • @kosmo1638
      @kosmo1638 2 месяца назад

      Immo field doesnt have to make players immortal, neither does shuzu. Either these abilities can effect only their own team, or only one player with a broken mechanic. No matter what ur team having instant insane value for the whole team is broken. Juno isnt as broken but she will prove to be extremely oppressive when worked with, I personally think her missles shouldnt heal but maybe give the enemies 0 gravity for half a second. OR her missles are small jet packs for her team. Something with counter play either way, just having LOS isnt going to cut it on very open maps.

    • @kosmo1638
      @kosmo1638 2 месяца назад

      Effecting all the players in the lobby is dogshit, that only belongs to ana

  • @NunDragonfly
    @NunDragonfly 2 месяца назад +52

    Heat seeking missiles sure is a ability to give to a support...

    • @Karthig1987
      @Karthig1987 2 месяца назад +1

      Or just homing? Sorry just wanna know if like you can't target players if they are frozen or something

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 2 месяца назад +1

      It isn't that powerful and takes a while to actually shoot. It's just an easy way to heal multiple teammates while doing a bit of dps.

    • @primus_03
      @primus_03 2 месяца назад +1

      just walk behinde a wall challange

    • @cbaileychamp
      @cbaileychamp 2 месяца назад

      Also a brimstone ult that heals

  • @cyberfish6507
    @cyberfish6507 2 месяца назад +6

    This new hero that is set to release a few years ago will break the game.
    Cassady's kit is a mashup of multiple characters and he does it better than all of them.
    First of all, his ult is broken. You have an aimlock ult that can 1-shot every hero in the game and he gains dr during it.
    His primary fire is a slightly nerfed version of Sojourn railgun with a 2x headshot multiplier. His RMB is busted. He unloads his gun in an instant and deals insane dmg to tanks. It is a better hellfire shotgun.
    His shift is absolutely overkitted. He basically nanoes himself for the duration and gains damage resistance for some weird reason. To make matters worse it reloads his gun!!!
    Yeah so Cassidy can RMB shift and then RMB and just delete everyone in the game. His E is also broken. He throws out a gernade that deals a free melee to all enemies in its radius. It also hacks enemies and doesn't let them use any movement abilities just like Cagefight.
    The new hero Cassidy will break the game with his auto-aim ult, and he just a mashup of Ana, Sojourn, Mauga and Reaper and uses the worst parts of their kits. I haven't played him as he hasn't come out yet, but Blizzard cannot be allowed to do this to us.

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 2 месяца назад

      The best comment to explain this BRAIN DEAD take on Juno. Greed earned my unsub 😂

  • @jimmyjames634
    @jimmyjames634 2 месяца назад +19

    Can we at least wait like an hour cuz shit ain’t even out yet.

    • @Shellw2
      @Shellw2 2 месяца назад +1

      I swear some overwatch players are so histrionic 😭. She’s actually been quite fair.

    • @jimmyjames634
      @jimmyjames634 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Shellw2 this game is ass in its current state don’t get me wrong, but sometimes people are too quick to jump to conclusions and immediately start shitting on the game.

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jimmyjames634
      Facts... Most pointless critique on a character ever 😂

    • @Shellw2
      @Shellw2 2 месяца назад +2

      Like can we just regulate our emotions for once.

  • @zc8673
    @zc8673 2 месяца назад +34

    On a side note, they also OBLITERATED the visual design of the hero. She went from having an incredibly unique look to being generic anime girl with big ass #759. Voice included.

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад +4

      @@zc8673 good. Femininity shouldn't be shunned

    • @mahks-pectith3179
      @mahks-pectith3179 2 месяца назад +13

      I mean that's her true purpose, not to be a good gameplay addition, obviously. Sell skins, make pr0n, cater to egirls and coomers. That's like the game's entire identity at this point

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад

      @@mahks-pectith3179 Well they need to drop the softcore shit. Ashe was nerfed for the Faye Valentine skin.
      OW is left leaning. Left hates having sexy female characters as it feeds the male gaze and it's politically correct to have issues with that and not the female gaze.
      The whole thing is stupid and doesn't need to be a problem but certain people hate others having their thing

    • @ianmills6260
      @ianmills6260 2 месяца назад +17

      ​@sonicallstarify least braindead overwatch player. Like a third of the roster is conventionally attractive female characters. Including this new one. Look at widow, mercy, kiriko. You are just blinded by muh woke go broke right wing nonsense

    • @Kat-xp8zn
      @Kat-xp8zn 2 месяца назад

      @@sonicallstarify Its not feminity, its "lets make a coomer bait character so our male audience would look at her ass and say i like it, and buy all skins" dont be naive here, its not about women nor feminity by themselves lol

  • @johnathanblow2025
    @johnathanblow2025 2 месяца назад +43

    every update i give lesss of a fuck about this game ngl

    • @wauchi1895
      @wauchi1895 2 месяца назад +2

      Y'all still do? I completely stopped carrying about the game once Marvel Rivals beta dropped.

    • @RIP_ZYZZ1738
      @RIP_ZYZZ1738 2 месяца назад

      @@wauchi1895It dropped!?

    • @GunieaPig
      @GunieaPig 2 месяца назад

      Then quit already nobody needs you in the game

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 2 месяца назад +8

    Zarya's bubble is based on timing, and there is lots of risk involved. All these free abilities would be more fun if they weren't 20 feet auto aim for free abilities. imagine aiming a hard to hit projectile to save a teammate from death. It would be FUN and SATISFYING

    • @Pinkyc0rn332
      @Pinkyc0rn332 2 месяца назад +1

      It would be satisfying if you hit it, not so fun when you miss it and it costs the game 😂

    • @zuffin1864
      @zuffin1864 2 месяца назад

      @@Pinkyc0rn332 that's the risk reward dynamic

  • @williehawkinsii4845
    @williehawkinsii4845 2 месяца назад +4

    I think you're selling Juno's Torpedoes too short cuz when I was using them I noticed that every Target and locks onto need about 1 second to lock on to a Target and they are homing to check tiles who's speed it's about half as fast as pharah Rockets and not to mention when it charges up there is a sound cue that will alert the enemies that it's coming out leaving her open for attack.
    And as long as you're not wide in the open you should be able to dodge them
    Only thing that says they need to do is increase the cool down on it being used from 10 to 15 seconds

  • @tylerbacoka4248
    @tylerbacoka4248 Месяц назад +1

    I let drool fall out of my mouth and hit the controller, blizzard says YOU WIN!

  • @vendetasebastian8867
    @vendetasebastian8867 2 месяца назад +8

    Watch the support mains demand more buffs.
    Watch the game design and balancing team seeing the arguments and logic and go pass them and call it useless information.
    The game died a billionth time, again

  • @AlphaBossAlex
    @AlphaBossAlex 2 месяца назад +11

    i would argue that a lock-on ability can be a healthy skill for her. It just requires the right amount of counter-play and value to that. It all comes down to this: Is it fun to play as or against the hero with this ability.
    I agree that the lack of skill expression is concerning but without any damage numbers or real game references (at the time of writing this), it would be unwise to dismiss this ability this early.

    • @willywonka00
      @willywonka00 2 месяца назад +3

      Fun has nothing to do with it and thats a stupid foundation to base a game off of or balance.

    • @nothingtoseehere2
      @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад +2

      either the ability is stupid broken or stupid useless.
      on one hand, the ability does too much for how easy it is to use.
      on the other hand, you could delete the ability from the hero and no one would notice.
      that is NOT good design

    • @peakerbox
      @peakerbox 2 месяца назад

      @@nothingtoseehere2 dealing half health to squishies in the game with her E seems like bad design to you? you get the same effect playing 95% of the dps cast (with m1's no less) and even then they can typically one shot. if the problem is the targeting... what is the problem? she can E multiple people and at most half health the squishies while tickling normal-health dps? what characters would you guys add to overwatch im rly curious how unbroken or broken they would be. been playing the game since 2016 and you all seem to still be pissed over a zombies mode not being added to the game. the kiriko nerf was the best thing for the game. current-day mauga would fit fine if the passive mode was made normal (3 selectable passives), but it won't be the new normal because you guys refuse to accept change or new things.
      realizing that the 3 passives were the best thing to grace this game since overwatch 2 came out is eye opening. "oh but they cant even balance what they have right now" you guys rly want this to be dead by daylight boring so bad it's insane.

    • @nothingtoseehere2
      @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад

      @@peakerbox no way you've peaked above bronze 2

    • @peakerbox
      @peakerbox 2 месяца назад

      @@nothingtoseehere2 no way you're above 13 years old. my peak is masters 1 on all 3 roles, but you don't have to be a platinum certified pop artist to realize music is trash moron. bring criticism or go back to your all chat condo with 1/2 bath and 1 bedroom.

  • @turboChet
    @turboChet 2 месяца назад +3

    nah, looks like a fun hero fr fr

  • @adrianhernandez.j2956
    @adrianhernandez.j2956 2 месяца назад +5

    Ik this is a doomer channel but juno is actually pretty fun and feels pretty fair to the game. Maybe lets not overreact just based off a trailer

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      Come back to this comment in a month when people learn how to play her and she becomes extremely aids. I haven't been wrong before and I doubt this hero release will change that

  • @LxRazer
    @LxRazer 2 месяца назад +31

    aint nobody calling her ass "JUNO" lmaooo ill stick to Space Ranger.

    • @kingclampz6081
      @kingclampz6081 2 месяца назад +8

      Fr bruh 😂 such a stupid name space ranger it is

    • @jimmyjames634
      @jimmyjames634 2 месяца назад +11

      Ain’t nobody gonna be calling that in comms Juno is so much easier than space ranger.

    • @Phobie_2000
      @Phobie_2000 2 месяца назад +9

      Space Ranger was her in development name. Her official name is Juno. I’m gonna call her what the devs named her..

    • @MilkyBoost
      @MilkyBoost 2 месяца назад +2

      I don't like the name but haru will be her second name since it's the same va from persona 5

    • @magneticpants3549
      @magneticpants3549 2 месяца назад +1

      This comment has nothing to do with the OP, but Juno is the Roman goddess of love and marriage. This name was also used on a satellite that was sent to orbit Jupiter.

  • @lookatthetree978
    @lookatthetree978 2 месяца назад +5

    Aged like milk

  • @Olmeuu
    @Olmeuu 2 месяца назад +4

    I kinda dislike how she doesn't bring anything new, why not make the ring give low gravity to teammates so you could make fun plays with low mobility characters or something instead of just a better mercy with a lucio speed boost. Also for the ult they could have copied the gears of war hammer of dawn and make it a death laser instead of just a mercy ult or something

  • @cdex9288
    @cdex9288 2 месяца назад +31

    I gotta disagree because juno is still gonna be a high ceiling character with gamesense, movement, and still her gun. She has one braindead ability that might not even be that strong I feel like this video is just a bad take. I agree with your sentiment but I don't think one ability ruins this character design. I just dont think Juno will be braindead.

    • @AlexiasPlaylist
      @AlexiasPlaylist 2 месяца назад +5

      Literally nothing I saw seems like she would have a high skill ceiling. I saw her beam auto attaching, I saw her ability auto locking, she can make a giant ass ring, and as well summon a literal giant fucking laser from the sky.

    • @cdex9288
      @cdex9288 2 месяца назад +13

      @AlexiasPlaylist she has to hit her teammates to heal using her aim like ana would, idk what beam you're talking about, she has insane movement considering she's almost a sort of flying character and that'll have a high skill ceiling and game sense wise knowing when to use your ring will probably be important

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 месяца назад +13

      @AlexiasPlaylist thats like saying ana takes no skill because the nano boost lock on teammates and the nade explodes. Matter of fact you can say that for every character in the game

    • @joeshmo6037
      @joeshmo6037 2 месяца назад +7

      You goin see. When they give a character stacked abilities that is indeed braindead. Her kit can do literally everything all combine all at once. That’s braindead. She is a support that aim locks for heals that’s braindead. We are at a point where blizzard is so stuck in their ways they can’t even consider anything else when it comes to these one track supports. They added Ana as their first new hero. After that they made supports easy. Now they add illari, and this Juno character both of them are braindead healers. They should be making supports with abilities relative to the older supports. They just make a more broken support every new support release.

    • @willywonka00
      @willywonka00 2 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@incomplet1396wtf first nano is an ultimate ability with a cost. And two you have to aim nade to hit the area. Its not auto lock or a hit scan ability. You bronze???

  • @keithedwards499
    @keithedwards499 2 месяца назад +4

    YES ITS TIME GREED ITS TIME!! MUHAHAHAHAHA COPE!! SEEETHE!!! MALD!! LET CHAOS TAKE OVERWATCH!! 🤣

  • @zezo4141
    @zezo4141 2 месяца назад +2

    But zarya there is counter play to it if the zarya is not using her ability right. Also there is a skill expression where you have to time your bubble to counter play in the first place, for example saving your support from dive, pulse bomb or genji blade.

  • @bananaman7637
    @bananaman7637 2 месяца назад +6

    Didn't they go to 5v5 to reduce visual clutter. Now you have the speed ring and a laser from space clogging up the battle field.

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 2 месяца назад +3

    Overwatch hasnt been about skill, or gamesense for a while. Its just a game of cooldown trades.
    While it always has had cooldown trading as a part of the game and skill, it wasnt so heavily weighted against skill, game planning, positioning, game sense, and team work.

  • @dr.eamkast
    @dr.eamkast 2 месяца назад

    The one thing that makes me feel conflicted about Juno is that despite her flaws, her ultimate makes blade feel good again. There was one game where I had nano and Juno ult at the same time when blading, it was insane. Closest thing to a Genji buff in millennia

  • @DiamondTurtleGamer
    @DiamondTurtleGamer 2 месяца назад +2

    idk. lotta people have easy value abilities, it's not like this one gives immort or cleanses everything or instakills anyone or saves your life. it's an ability that does lock on, but doesn't honestly do too much unless ur able to LOS a lot of enemies or allies, which, if ur los'ing a lot of enemies ur prob gonna get shot at and die, and for allies, whatever. another bap shift ability moment, no one cared about his shift healing anyways it's his lamp that's annoying. this just feels like rage bait.

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      Come back to this comment in a month when people learn how to play her and she becomes extremely aids. I haven't been wrong before and I doubt this hero release will change that

  • @jimmyjab8744
    @jimmyjab8744 2 месяца назад +1

    lmao the 10 seconds at the end of just MMMMWAH. :D

  • @JujuInFlames
    @JujuInFlames 2 месяца назад +1

    With the numbers I’ve seen myself and other support players pull in matches it makes me question what the actual incentive is for playing dps

  • @tylerbacoka4248
    @tylerbacoka4248 Месяц назад +1

    Lol as a baptise main, lamp rants are my favorite, its bs for real

  • @cryonixs2894
    @cryonixs2894 2 месяца назад +3

    greed is losing his fucking mind

  • @incomplet1396
    @incomplet1396 2 месяца назад +9

    Overreacting. She cant fly up she can only hover horizontal. The auto aim ability is on a 10s cooldown

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      She can fly, she boosts into the air and then hovers. This is flying

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 месяца назад +3

      @GREED_EU but its not like mercy pharah or echo. She had double jump and hover. Its not as bad as you think

    • @mahks-pectith3179
      @mahks-pectith3179 2 месяца назад

      @@incomplet1396 that is still absurd mobility on top of an already cracked out kit

    • @GunieaPig
      @GunieaPig 2 месяца назад +5

      @@mahks-pectith3179 she won’t even be meta😂😂😂

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 месяца назад +6

      @mahks-pectith3179 what im saying is that she will be very killable, she is one of the only supports that cant heal herself in battle. And her gun does little damage on top of that
      She can only move horisontal so shooting her won't be too bad. She genuinely looks balanced

  • @its_lucky252
    @its_lucky252 2 месяца назад +4

    thoughts on greed making a hero design tier list chat?

  • @joshuafarnham5863
    @joshuafarnham5863 2 месяца назад +1

    As an Echo main, i'm already gonna hate my life even more with this character in the game

  • @YouCanCallMeIz
    @YouCanCallMeIz 2 месяца назад +2

    There has never been a more unnecessary addition to a character's kit than Torpedoes, maybe only rivaled by Baptiste's random ass burst heal option. Seriously, what compelled them?

  • @jimmyjab8744
    @jimmyjab8744 2 месяца назад +1

    i had an idea that might be stupidly difficult for a way her torpedo's could work without them being auto aim entirely. You hold down the button, then can shoot on enemies or teammates to attach them with a tracker (dunno if hitscan or projectile, depends on how hard you want it to be and how big the pay out will be) that then you can activate or let go of the button to shoot the auto aim projectile for healing/damage to track those that you attached the tracker to. I know that's still not amazing and I don't like the auto aim at all but I like the idea around sticking something to enemies and or allies to then get the value afterwards. It takes skill and time and you can choose how long you want to spend sticking these to players before activating the actual value and numbers/healing/damage. Could be a skill shot too where you have to shoot a fairly quick projectile to attach this homing thing yknow. That way you could hit like two flicks on enemies or allies while moving around and then activate the damage for big pay out which could then also have increased stats since you actually have to work for it instead of only time it and have the players on your screen.

  • @ZezmirOwens
    @ZezmirOwens 2 месяца назад

    She basically a 6 in one character. The ana like gun is okay, but then they added the Lucio speed boost, a Mercy ult but spaced themed, a double jump, a glide, and a water down echo dash. I don't blizzard can make a original or good character no more.

  • @afterthought9538
    @afterthought9538 2 месяца назад +5

    You didn't mention the kick 0.0

  • @skrrrtsusman3450
    @skrrrtsusman3450 2 месяца назад +1

    movement is just echo, kinda wish her barrage wasn't lock on, and instead was a separate charge of 3 that you had to aim, and did dmg over time and heal over time

  • @Karthig1987
    @Karthig1987 2 месяца назад +1

    Good arguments but looking forward to you playing the character first for final thoughts

  • @iSuckAtGamesGG
    @iSuckAtGamesGG 2 месяца назад +1

    i legit thought her heat seeking missiles was an ult.

  • @RandomAusFan
    @RandomAusFan 2 месяца назад

    Also funny that rex called the gigabuff tanks ages ago without knowing💀

    • @GunieaPig
      @GunieaPig 2 месяца назад

      Flats called it first

  • @Plasmaomatic
    @Plasmaomatic 2 месяца назад +2

    This is the least shit designed hero yet, a step in the right direction and the next tank will probably be 2 steps backwards

  • @Anicaide
    @Anicaide 2 месяца назад +6

    The games dead because content creators use negativity for views. Its a echo chamber top level players live in

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +2

      What did I say that was wrong?

    • @nothingtoseehere2
      @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад +2

      i can assure you there are more content creators meatriding the game than bashing it

    • @Anicaide
      @Anicaide 2 месяца назад +2

      @@GREED_EU Honestly its more your perspective im not saying for YOUR skill bracket that its wrong. let me explain it like this i have a massive discord full of friends from college they are gold-masters they LOVE the character because of the fun factors and the ability to get on and utilize the character. you as it stands have the ability to do that because of your understanding of the game and skill. the top 500 skill set players in this game are a mico community with the loudest voice because the games dead on social media the MAJORITY of people who log on and play for alil do maybe 5 games and go to sleep they love this direction. the high skill players hate it. but ones a minority and it happens to just have a loud voice.
      -sorry its so long just wanted to explain my actual opinion im not just trolling for memes i mean and stand by my stance.

  • @PaulHoleybatch
    @PaulHoleybatch 2 месяца назад +1

    yo absolutely _poggers_ smooching at the end! Yeeees!

  • @sonicallstarify
    @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад +2

    The developers already said that they want to design more heroes that doesn't require you to be a technical Messiah.
    I prefer precision heroes, McCree Widow etc but you can't get mad at OW for one of it's remaining original philosophies: you can be a high level player without crazy mechanical skill
    Also it's either the support folds or is to strong, bring back 6v6

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      I agree, Monkey requires almost 0 mechanics, and I still love Monkey, because he is actually well designed.

  • @ChumBucketMindControlHelmet
    @ChumBucketMindControlHelmet 2 месяца назад +1

    When they said it would lock on I though it would be like the Javlin from COD where you have to look at the target for a few seconds. That would be good imo because you could los it and reset the lock on and it would make people think just a little. You can have abilities that are good for new players that also require you to think. I could be wrong but I believe a good part of the og heros have something like that

  • @WaffleKrushaTTV
    @WaffleKrushaTTV 2 месяца назад +1

    Great vid 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. "I'm not making fun of anyone, but that's exactly what I'm doing." 😂😂😂

  • @Endingevil
    @Endingevil 2 месяца назад +1

    "I PRESSED E'EE" - Greed the Kiri main 2024

  • @its_lucky252
    @its_lucky252 2 месяца назад +3

    it's not just that it's no aim, it's that the hero has no weakness. ana nade technically doesn't require aim, but if she misuses it she dies. new supports have overloaded kits

    • @peakerbox
      @peakerbox 2 месяца назад +1

      you're so right. the hero has no weakness because my dps lock in cassidy to shoot the air for 20 minutes instead of hitting their pharah or echo target. she literally just hovers, get better.

    • @Pinkyc0rn332
      @Pinkyc0rn332 2 месяца назад +1

      She has no self sustain. Not even a heal for herself…

  • @tylerbacoka4248
    @tylerbacoka4248 Месяц назад +1

    lifeweaver and kiri have the most brain dead healing ever, basically plays for you. Hmmmm Noticing a trend much, hereeeeeeeeee's JUNo

  • @13-Diamino-246-trinitrobenzene
    @13-Diamino-246-trinitrobenzene 2 месяца назад +1

    If they are creating abilities that are aimbot they must be taking every drug in the world

  • @Zazafe3101
    @Zazafe3101 2 месяца назад +9

    At this point the blizzard devs are literally that Eric Andre meme with the gun

  • @nothingtoseehere2
    @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад

    what if she highlighted an area for a few of her missiles to hit instead of locking on

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад

      This is better 👍
      She's still overkitted tho

  • @duongnguyen-s1i
    @duongnguyen-s1i 2 месяца назад

    it would be cool if her smg does extra heal when headshot but the base heals decrease. and her auto aim thing acts like vneture ult where she has charges and has to aim for each one to each ally or enemy

  • @dampbiscuit3137
    @dampbiscuit3137 2 месяца назад +2

    This guy is eu samito

  • @jrodd13
    @jrodd13 2 месяца назад

    I REALLY wish the devs would release characters (specifically supports) that don't do it all. Because I mean if you really think about it, you cannot name a true hard counter GLARING weakness that any of the past 7 supports added have had, they aren't designed to have one anymore. (So are 5v5 tanks) Instead of adding fun heroes that have an even risk to reward with a healthy skill curve, they just add fun heroes that cater towards braindead new players who just want to go clicky clicky and feel good and do a lot, without having to actually be good at the game. Good ol' free to play marketing I guess, selling skins is most important.

  • @The50FirstState
    @The50FirstState 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent explanation, you're getting even better at this 👍

  • @touatiamir7592
    @touatiamir7592 2 месяца назад +12

    They said:we need a second kiriko

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 2 месяца назад +1

      She plays nothing like Kiriko...

    • @touatiamir7592
      @touatiamir7592 2 месяца назад

      @@Adventist1997 wasn't talking about gameplay

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 2 месяца назад +1

      @@touatiamir7592
      Her speed boost or what? Because she doesn't have any other ability like Kiriko. I'd say she's closer to a Lucio that can hover. Her ult is like a weaker Zen ult but it moves on its own.

    • @touatiamir7592
      @touatiamir7592 2 месяца назад

      the cute part xd
      can u imagine the future skins on her

  • @renamamiya6517
    @renamamiya6517 2 месяца назад +1

    Disagree with the flux argument, unless the enemy team are playing via the synapses they use to blink, theyre not going give you a free ult, and theres always the fairly long time frame to escape the big circle below their feet

  • @OneSlavBoi
    @OneSlavBoi 2 месяца назад +1

    I like that her mobility isn't extreme and that she has no self heal. i thought that she looks underwhelming to play as though, even if strong it feels like shooting people just doesn't do that much. The vertical mobility is very mid and horizontal isn't extreme either so yk that's my thoughts.
    anyways i'm playing league of legends now fuck this game and 1 tank format lmao

  • @justanscv
    @justanscv 2 месяца назад +4

    Doesn’t this guy just completely contradict himself with the bubble/life grip segment? Like yeah the lock on torpedos require no aim but they have multiple use cases like zaryas bubble. It’s her only team/aoe heal so do you save it for when your team is low? Do you use it to burst heal a single teammate? Do you need the extra damage on the enemy team?

    • @nothingtoseehere2
      @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад +3

      the problem is how much it does. it's okay to have an ability that both heals and damages, but it's not okay to have an ability that does that with a lock on. the problem is that since it takes no skill to aim, it will always get some value.

    • @justanscv
      @justanscv 2 месяца назад

      @@nothingtoseehere2 after seeing how it works in game I’m gonna have to disagree. Even with auto lock it looks like hell to actually get value with. Lock on time, travel time, and the fact that you can’t do anything else while locking on make it one of her worst abilities. Sure you almost always get SOME value but that doesn’t matter if your team all dies before that value reaches them. You really do have to plan when to use it

    • @justanscv
      @justanscv 2 месяца назад

      @@nothingtoseehere2 yeah nvm, I played with it, that shit brain dead as hell. Super fun tho

  • @Shadow-yn3ue
    @Shadow-yn3ue 2 месяца назад +3

    Easy way to explain badly desinged is to define bad design as "Ability is either useable and broken or unuseable and not broken depending on numbers attached". So if only way to make abillity not be broken is to gut its numbers to the point of complet irrelevance its badly designed

    • @peakerbox
      @peakerbox 2 месяца назад

      all abilities in all games are just numbers by design. this makes 0 sense. a number tweaked in either wrong direction will obviously render it usable or terrible. i'm curious what games you can list that has majority of its abilities under this gauge of "well designed" through being able to tweak numbers in either direction.

    • @Shadow-yn3ue
      @Shadow-yn3ue 2 месяца назад

      @@peakerbox U are right in that numbers can make or break abillity. What game designers mean by Badly designed is when abillity is strong its problematic. U can hear this form riot august who is on lol champ design team. Something like zeri w on release. It dealt magic dmg and it could crit but she was also adc. So she had 1k nuke with one screen range and if that didnt kill u she could dps u down because she is hyper carry. Also u couldnt itemize against her since w was mg dmg and her main attack was physical. Because of all of this her w was either single strongest spell in the game or completely useless. Thats why they changed its dmg type(aka redesigned the abillity) so when u built armor it had more value and it made her w more fair. Now spell is rewarding if u hit it but it doesnt feel unfair and broken when playing against her.
      Edit: Another example: Jett dash in valo. On release it was hands down the most op spell in game. Not because distance coverd was to big or because it was to fast. It was a problem because she could take a duel and instantly disapear making it realy hard for other team to trade her. They changed the abillity so u now need to press it once to prepare it, timer starts and only in that timer can u dash. If timer runs out and u dont dash abillity is counted as used. This makes it so u have to choose which fight u want to take with it and it also gives enemy team some lvl of counterplay since if u are close enogh u can hear audio q for when she prepares it. Here they didnt change her numbers they made it so u cant just "press button get value" u have to think of how and when too use it.
      Another example of this is voliber again in lol. Because of his ult hes deliberatly kept weak because if he is able to beat u in 1v1 u can never stop him from killing u(his ult disables towers).. Now voli is made this way to attract lower elo players so its not the end of the world if he is a little weak because in lower elos u can make anything work but every time he is in pro or high elo he is extremely opressive and everyone hates playing against him. So he is either weak and unplayable or completly unfair and broken since if he can kill u once he will kill u over and over again. Again this is intentional "bad design" because he wasnt made to be played in high elo. Either way if u wanted to u cant fix his issue by just changing numbers

    • @peakerbox
      @peakerbox 2 месяца назад

      @@Shadow-yn3ue i completely see what you meant, and understand it. i just think regardless number tweaking in either direction shouldn't be the focus but it's rare in all games to release a completely balanced character with no issues from release. majority of league characters follow this trend of being released as broken and falling into their balanced oblivion. i could make examples but you just know them all.
      here's how I see it: Juno has a lot of mobility, and at the same time it's very simple to follow. She can double jump up, and hover or the preferable double jump spam into m1 healing or dmg like Genji. If she hovers there should be theoretically no issue with a Cassidy or any hitscan 2 bursting her into the grave, but even with 8 years of Overwatch being released entirely, DPS still struggle to headshot Pharah and echo for seemingly no reason. Any aerial target is a huge target. Mercy pocketing Pharah and echo has gone down since recent changes, and most people just run them solo.
      Her E does a lot of multi-target dmg but not much single-target. With her being able to half-health all squishies in the game (same as Cassidy m1) and has less uptime than conventional hitscan dmg sources. She will pretty much tickle anyone with more health than Tracer's. The skill uptime isn't the best either, there won't be much shock factor with her using her E. This is excluding the fact that her E bullets can't travel through walls so any remote cover or shield will render this skill ass.
      Shift is nerfed Echo mobility, with her stabling out at a level to hover on which honestly isn't good. Easy headshots.
      Her ult isn't impressive at all, and doesn't wow me. Seems pretty normal and fair.
      My biggest critique comes from her M1 healing and DMG. She can't deal headshots like Ana, due to the nature of the bullets but for her to match Ana healing she has to land all hitscan bursts and her E. IMO her ammo should be reduced because 170 bullets to heal and shoot with is a LOT.
      I found through these RUclips comments that most people are brazenly calling Juno broken, and I played her for 5 games and disagree heavily. She feels pretty fair into the mix of what Overwatch is now in my opinion. We can all agree to disagree, I didn't mean to come off disrespectful with a differing opinion so my apologies if it came off that way at all. Just wanted to voice my opinion, hope you're doing well.

    • @Shadow-yn3ue
      @Shadow-yn3ue 2 месяца назад

      @@peakerbox For leauge most champs arent broken to the point of not balanceable(MOST) And for juno from what i saw i agree with u. As u said her mobility is kinda fake as i runaway tool and she cant break the map by going through walls or something like that. Rest of the kit seems fine from design stand point(probably should either nerf the dmg on m1 or lower ammo though). Now looking at her e which is "press button get value" i dont think its that big of a deal. She has enough skill expresion already and her kit with all the movment tech and m1 tracking to heal + value u get from it isnt huge(its just heal with big cd, its not suzu where u say fk u to all enemy dmg)
      I think this video is trying to exaggerate the problem of abillities like these but is wrong in that here value isnt to far off effort put in. For people who say she is broken, maybe she will be depending on how numbers play, but either way she is balanceable. Also u didnt come off as offensive no worries i just like to argue and strangers on the internet are perfect for that.

  • @MOTHDADDY1
    @MOTHDADDY1 2 месяца назад +14

    these new female hero designs are so boring..

    • @wauchi1895
      @wauchi1895 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, I was honestly hyped for Juno, but then she released and she seems pretty boring ngl. Character wise she has really dry personality (which to be honest has been a pattern for OW2 female supports; Kiriko, Illiari, Juno). Ability wise she doesn't bring anything innovative to the game. I know people hate Illiari for her Pylon, but at least that was something that is unique about her. Juno doesn't really have anything new besides being a battle Mercy.

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@wauchi1895now that's just a bad take none of those heroes have a dry blend personality even kiriko (although I ate it)

    • @omars1369
      @omars1369 2 месяца назад

      Misogynist

    • @mofumofu9648
      @mofumofu9648 2 месяца назад +1

      Kiriko is the most cringe hero ive ever seen with her voice lines being extremely corny and not even in a good way, her lore ruined the shimadas one(even not counting the age problem that they did nothing about btw) illari meanwhile has no connection to any heroes already, which already makes lore hard to write, then you add the fact that her only character trait is "bohoo i killed my family" and nothing else. Juno will probably have a connection with mei and maybe winton which is at least something.​@omarsali2990

    • @omarsali2990
      @omarsali2990 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mofumofu9648 now illari is a good character she tries to make up for what she did she knows it wasnt her fault but she still blames herself over kinda like Cassidys whole character ,(she is also cringe like him in a good way)
      Amd although most of kiriko voiceline are really annoying its trur(I wanna quit every time she speaks)but her lore in no way ruins the shimada she ainy even part of the important story line wich is before the forgiving of hanzo and after the unsuccessful assassination of genji exept the age thing bit to be fair it could just be because they were shaved I mean look at how sharply young granny mercy looks while being 50 the shimada would have had something against aging too I know it's a stretch bit we gotta fix plit holes for them at thi point
      But even her annoying voiceline are not soulless I would appreciate if they made her nice and not egotistical but at the same time it might be part of her character being somoene who really mainly cares about doing whatever they want kinda like you genji (now that I think about it hanzo did a great thing we could have had male kiriko) mayne she just needs to f ul something in the future wich will fix her personality
      Yeah I needed to write a whole essay on ways we could fix kiriko character please blizzard remove her voicelines exept the dont touch one

  • @rb8258
    @rb8258 2 месяца назад

    Can the next tank be dive or poke? Every new tank in OW2 has been brawly so far.

  • @meowblopper
    @meowblopper 2 месяца назад +1

    i snog my screen every time you do that outro

  • @GoibniuNihiliste
    @GoibniuNihiliste 2 месяца назад +1

    coming form the same devs who refuse to nerf zen into reality, what did you expect?

  • @peakerbox
    @peakerbox 2 месяца назад +1

    ignorable dmg on homing missiles, ult that heals and increases dmg only, ana 4-burst healing hitscan. hovers instead of flies, but she's broken right? why do you people play the game atp if the last enjoyment you got from the game was back in 2020? admit it's a guilty pleasure, or admit you're solely upset there's no COD zombies mode that nobody cares for. 5v5 or 6v6 it could go either way but you people STAY upset when you really shouldn't be.
    edit: the passive mode was the best thing to happen for the game, and should've been permanently introduced, but I assume you all thought the passives were turbo-busted broken. just an assumption.

  • @bichitomax
    @bichitomax 2 месяца назад +1

    Ok but this pocket mercy gameplay is foul af. Do you ask your friends to do that just so you can frag with Genji?

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      People message me from the LFG discord and if they're in the rank I'm smurfing in then I inv them. I never tell them to play, Mercy, they just do, usually.

  • @juanirdag
    @juanirdag 2 месяца назад +1

    bubble blocks sleep or nade or rein pin or genji slashes or monkey dive or queen knife or a million other things. Weaver Grip stops 'oh were about to lose the neutral.' That's it. An ana sleep can turn the tides of battle while grip is a free instant reset. can't wait til aron says ow 2 is never going back to 6x6 and I get to be free of this game.

    • @luminous5439
      @luminous5439 2 месяца назад +2

      Grip can be used aggressively tho.
      You can go flank weaver and pull a full-hp rein or reaper into the enemy team

    • @juanirdag
      @juanirdag 2 месяца назад +2

      @@luminous5439 you’re so right. Bwahaha. Don’t get me wrong I love life weaver. It’s just 5v5 I minf

  • @jingbadatti9956
    @jingbadatti9956 2 месяца назад +2

    Only reason to play OW is cool waifus, she is cool waifu, good character

  • @k_eufori
    @k_eufori 2 месяца назад +1

    lmao ow slowly turning into moba with these dev decisions

  • @bwuhmoment8907
    @bwuhmoment8907 2 месяца назад +1

    i dont think the ability is as bad as the others it was compared to after trying it.
    i dislike the autolock as well but i think the wind up on it and having to expose urself for several seconds to use is okay.

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      OR, how about the wind up is faster, and she has to aim it. So it becomes skillbased and not just "we need to make the wind up super long to make up for the fact that it has aimbot"

  • @Karthig1987
    @Karthig1987 2 месяца назад +1

    By the way would ow2 being a paid game as opposed to f2p solve the cheater problem or will the shit anti cheat make that make no difference

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +2

      Cheaters are gonna cheat regardless. If the game has a sale, more cheaters, a free weekend, more cheaters. There would be LESS, but there would still be a lot

    • @Karthig1987
      @Karthig1987 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GREED_EU good points. Thanks.

  • @kevlowry
    @kevlowry 2 месяца назад +4

    Bring back October 2020 6V6 with proper balance and in game incentives🫡🤣

  • @RacingSaph
    @RacingSaph 2 месяца назад +1

    1:40 And uhhhhh i had to make a youtube video calling the character braindead for views

  • @willwilliams2944
    @willwilliams2944 2 месяца назад

    juno literally has 2 ults on cooldown basically. I don't like the press button get auto value either, but I think that the rockets would have been better taken if it was an ult and if there was more steps to it like having to click the players during the duration than it just being one button auto aim like cassidy ult but immediately. It is a really cool idea just awful execution. The power creep and making it easier to get instant value is just insanely obvious. Why do these new characters need so many abilities and also make them so simple to use, but they won't help the old cast at all. Idk who is worse at this point. Hero design or the balance team. I still think the balance team, but hero design is not helping in the slightest. I'll still take juno over mauga anyday though. The rest of the hero design can be fixed easily by an actual competent balance team. Mauga is just not good for the game in a 5/5 format imo. Still could be fixed with balance, but cleary balance is non existent in this game. They have no clue what they want to do. Let alone have the competence to execute on it. Until they put everything in the communities hands to play around with in customs. Which made alot of the bigger f2p games that they want to be. This game is sadly cooked. Let the community tweak everything and make balance changes and reworks and well bring back the game everyone loves, but the devs have to much ego to be out done buy their community.

  • @CLRBeatbox
    @CLRBeatbox 2 месяца назад

    support heros are dps heros that heal

  • @Exterminator19861
    @Exterminator19861 2 месяца назад +1

    Yeah game would be much funnier if it had much less aoe on phara and no aim for you abilities for sure. Even soldiers ult are boring trash that you dont need to aim really.

  • @deadspace4755
    @deadspace4755 2 месяца назад +1

    At least she is cute, cuter than Dva which is saying a lot. Hope she will be below C tier so l can main her.

  • @sonicallstarify
    @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад

    Also designing heroes that will always be weak due to ease of use isn't good design.
    Like no filter, what's the point of their existence? Filler?
    At some point you have to accept the ugly truth that makes OW OW(well kinda what it is but that's a different topic)

  • @swift7842
    @swift7842 2 месяца назад +1

    You can already tell from what we’ve seen of her kit that she’s either going to be a character that stays in a perpetual state of being completely worthless or completely overpowered. She simply does too many things at once that it becomes completely impossible to balance

  • @Maerious_999
    @Maerious_999 2 месяца назад +1

    ouh yeah new greed vid

  • @memory_LF
    @memory_LF 2 месяца назад +1

    Why you pronounce epitome like dat
    Great video, I agreed with all the points made. I think there will always be bs low skill mechanics in this game, that’s just how it is. Lost all hope for this game really getting better.

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      I use both for different things. The context of the statement changes how I say it

  • @Pinkpilatesprincesss
    @Pinkpilatesprincesss 2 месяца назад +1

    every time i see this guy on my recommended hes complaning about something. just quit overwatch dude i donnt know what to tell you

    • @cavemanchonny
      @cavemanchonny 2 месяца назад +3

      very constructive criticism😐

  • @sonicallstarify
    @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад +1

    I agree with some of your previous videos but I can't do the same here.
    No hate though.
    Your philosophy would have OW stuck in a permanent meta of certain heroes while the rest of the cast might as well not exist.(For example you'd have only Ana and Lucio as supports Mercys existence sound like your bane. Do you dislike Winston too?)
    The true answer to your problem imo is fundamental .
    You'd need a OW3 with a new roster no returns. And the devs would straight up say from the jump"your Mechanical Skill must be this good to play"

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      This has nothing to do with "only aim hero's" and is entirely to do with effort to value ratios. Winston has a GREAT effort to value ration, which is why people love Money meta. Basically all the hitscans do not, and are extremely easy to play, and therefore, should be worse OR make them harder to play.

    • @nothingtoseehere2
      @nothingtoseehere2 2 месяца назад +1

      I think this is fair, because it mostly depends on which side of the game you prefer the most
      of course an fps player wants to highlight mechanical skill, while a moba player might not see a need to
      I doubt hero design will ever have a universally accepted opinion

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад

      @@nothingtoseehere2 agreed
      Someone has to lose for another to win

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify 2 месяца назад

      @@GREED_EU I know I was just using them as quick and easy example. Genji would be a high mechanical DPS that's isn't super reliant on aim.
      And I despise Winton (much HP advance towards you and hold down trigger or press shoulder button to escape) but I understand OW needs heroes like him.
      Again it irks me that Winton outplays on game sense rather than mechanical skill but that's OW for better or worse.
      Shameless 6v6 plug but another tank takes alot of pressure off of all roles imo but drags out fights which depending on what you value is good or bad
      Also I disagree hitscans are easier to play but I have to deal with an controller (aim assist isn't a silver bullet don't let the butthurt apex players fool you, AA is different for every game and should be evaluated as such) and your probably on PC so to be frank we not going to get to a middle ground on that and once again no hate, just being blunt.
      Oh and keep in mind of the global projectile hitbox changes, it's a sign of the direction the devs want the game to go.

  • @MilkyBoost
    @MilkyBoost 2 месяца назад +2

    If you play the game casually it's fine I've lost hope for it's competitive scene

  • @Lozyder
    @Lozyder 2 месяца назад

    i dont understand why you think exo-boots are unhealthy for the game, its just one-dimensional mobility and needs charge-up. Then you are talking about bullshit abilitie sthat are just a press of a button that negate all potential counterplay and forgot to mention res 😭😭

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад

      It's infinite uptime. No need to use them carefully, hold them for dive, no decision making or skill expression. If it had a cool down. they would be more than fine

  • @cryonixs2894
    @cryonixs2894 2 месяца назад +2

    pretty sure you could hit master on lifeweaver on a 30 fps monitor with a trackpad. I love inclusiveness in gaming!!!

  • @ExoCalibra
    @ExoCalibra 2 месяца назад +1

    do you even play support?

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, I was rank 1 support EU at the start of the season, same with Rank 1 DPS and rank 2 tank. There is a screenshot of my profile in this video at 8:20
      ruclips.net/video/jeUAjONXbTg/видео.html

  • @thedarkchilddarkin4664
    @thedarkchilddarkin4664 2 месяца назад +2

    this guy hating on a game making content on it but yet still plays the game nice faking your content and using it for selfish ideas

  • @cavemanchonny
    @cavemanchonny 2 месяца назад +1

    not the rex shoutout😭😭😭

  • @yoyocherio
    @yoyocherio 2 месяца назад +1

    Bro y are u playing in silver/gold

    • @GREED_EU
      @GREED_EU  2 месяца назад +2

      20 second queues

  • @fadedgames1
    @fadedgames1 2 месяца назад +2

    Moira 2.0

  • @thatonepronoun7503
    @thatonepronoun7503 2 месяца назад +4

    just bait out the cooldowns LMAO

    • @bitnn4703
      @bitnn4703 2 месяца назад +3

      bro did NOT watch the video

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 2 месяца назад

      That's become the tanks job now, force the enemy to press all the buttons, and hope you don't die.
      Support and Damage are press all the buttons, and hope you don't die.

    • @nanossz
      @nanossz 2 месяца назад +1

      always the same excuse when talking about an OP ability “just bAiT”

    • @Mrplaguedoctor123
      @Mrplaguedoctor123 2 месяца назад

      How do you bait a lock on ability

    • @waterrr6332
      @waterrr6332 2 месяца назад +1

      Imagine I play JQ and I have wait out, Hack, Emp, Orisa Spear, Suzu, Anti nade, Mei wall, mobility abilities and any strong knockback before I ult. Now I just gotta wait out that right?

  • @SpiritedFalcon
    @SpiritedFalcon 2 месяца назад +2

    Don't bother playing the normal game. Just play 6v6 pugs, tbh.

  • @tylerbacoka4248
    @tylerbacoka4248 2 месяца назад +1

    pay to win mode gogogogog, zzz for 2 months while its juno picks vs dunno lifeweaver wannabes with sombras and widows. Might as well kill myself.

  • @AutoPAGH
    @AutoPAGH 2 месяца назад +1

    Cry

  • @Mocha-Latte
    @Mocha-Latte 2 месяца назад +1

    cope

  • @rayman964
    @rayman964 2 месяца назад +1

    marvel rivals will shit on overwatch showing the skill matters instead nu uh abilities with no brains