Oh I am soooooo excited about this!! I’m wearing my Anne Boleyn shirt and telling everyone in my office that today is “Anne Boleyn Remembrance Day”! I don’t care if it’s official - I’m making it a thing here in the states!! 😂💁🏻♀️
I like that idea: Remembrance Day. We should absolutely make that a thing! Which of course means we must have some sort of food and drink to commemorate her. Clearly, an apple recipe is called for, as we know she craved those whilst pregnant with Elizabeth I. Hmmm….
I think he was trying to emphasise the legitimacy of his offspring by Anne. The cracks in their relationship appeared soon after the birth of Elizabeth. Anne seemed to struggle with the transition from mistress to wife because it appears that Henry was less respectful of her as his wife and his romantic attention strayed quite quickly after marriage. Considering that he moved to execute Anne so quickly after Katherine’s death would indicate that he did not value her for herself but for the sons she was supposed to have.
Another engaging video, Dr. Kat: *Thank you!* The sheer *speed* of Anne Boleyn's downfall always staggers me -- but I suspect that Thomas Cromwell wanted Anne & her circle to die quickly, for his own survival. The French swordsman who executed Anne was ordered to England two weeks prior to her trial, so the outcome of that trial was a fait accompli. Re: Anne's French upbringing -- ironically, Anne grew up at the Court of French Queen Claude, who ran a strict school for aristocratic ladies, with flirtation vetoed. I am glad that serious historians nowadays reject the lie that Anne was an adulteress. Again, thank you, Dr. Kat.
I've never believed that Anne Boleyn was an adulteress. Especially after she became Henry's queen. I imagine she was almost always never alone and that there was likely a spy or two in her midst. I've read that Anne was difficult at times so there might have been someone around happy to "report" on her. The evidence that Cromwell and Henry obtained was coerced and/or tortured out of people. From what I have read about Queen Anne Boleyn, I don't think I'd have liked her, especially her treatment of the Princess Mary, but she did not deserve what happened to her.
Yesterday to honour Anne Boleyn’s murder I found and listened to a beautiful and wonderful recording of Brahm’s Eine Deutsche Requiem. Yes, I recognize that it was written 230 years after her death. But the solemn and moving music felt appropriate. She would have loved Brahms.
"incontinent" in that time meant "quickly or immediately" - when I was at school we read a play (can't remember which one!) where one of the characters said "I will return incontinent" as you can imagine it caused huge hilarity! Love the video x
Such a brave final speech...really shows how diplomatic she was. I feel sorry that she miscarried a boy...things could have been so different had he lived.🏰
I read somewhere that those condemned to die at this time were obliged to say positive things about the king and the legal proceedings in order to protect their families from further repercussions. So sad, I can’t imagine people saying “God save the king” before getting their heads cut off. 😢
I have adored everything Anne Boleyn since I was a child, she was a remarkable woman, I even have her handwriting tattooed on my arm, Anne was innocent, her only crime, marrying a fickle and vain man. Thank you Dr Kat for your wonderful videos, I cant get enough, you make the past come alive
Wow u really need proffesional help and then to get a life 😂 i adore jane seymour too and other people but wont make a tatoo for anyone its scary so many lunatics are walking the streets free and she wasnt a remarkable woman she was a whore and many people were killed thanxx to her jane was a remarkable woman
I've always found the use of propaganda among medieval and early modern rulers FASCINATING! The public tends to think of propaganda as an extremely modern concept (18th century if not more recent), but it has been a core tool of monarchy since the beginning. These displays are just as much about sending the correct message to the populace as they are about the events themselves. Anne's relationship with the tower is a great example of this, from the glory of her first stay positioning her as a queen to the despair of her second stay positioning her as an outcast
The mind of a master Propagandist in the making, being Tutored from a young age, was the young King Edward, son of Henry 8th. This could be why, some read certain attitudes in his Diary entries. A Propagandist Art he would need to master, to be accepted as successful, to rule and to maintain power.
I've never before heard that letter Anne wrote to the king, what a bombshell!! Fascinating times I can't stop exploring, but holy high heaven I'm so glad I live in these times and not those! 🏰
It always blows my mind the amount of power Henry had. I know a lot of people didn't like Anne, especially because of what happened to Katherine, but the fact that no one was willing to do anything is just crazy to me. His father never could have gotten away with executing his wife, even if she wasn't Elizabeth of York. Add to the fact that Henry did it TWICE is just astounding.
Today is my birthday and it has always been one of the coolest things to me that I share my birthday with such an interesting historical woman's deathday. What she went through is tragic but absolutely fascinating. Thanks for always bringing the best in Tudor history!
Anne was regal in her reign and execution. Henry was a spoiled, egomaniac. Best to not be in his romantic sights. The Towers history is ever enduring. Thank you 😊😊
Visited the UK and the Tower in March this year, a great experience. I believe the swordsman for her execution makes it clear above all doubt, if any doubt there was, that the trail was a setup rather than an act of "mercy". Henry must have ordered for his coming before the trial even took place.
@@meginmdsome would argue perhaps the lingering effect of the last wife to pre-decease Henry VIII: Katherine Howard. It is said you can hear her pleading screams from her being dragged from her chambers (she too arrested for adulterous treason) echoing through those hallways at night.
She was truly a brave soul. And super intelligent by today's standards. It's tragic that the very traits that attracted Henry were the same ones that brought about her downfall and made enemies. It is said that she failed to make the necessary transition from mistress to wife. RIP brave Anne. 👑🏰
I remember hearing a historian (cannot remember which - maybe it was Ron Chernow in his book - saying the same thing about Alexander Hamilton - that the very qualities that led to his successes during the turmoil and aftermath of the Revolution were not suited to a changed environment of the early nation and led eventually to his own downfall. I think that is something is repeats throughout history - men and women who are able to harness a moment that is suited to them but less capable of shifting course when the environment alters because they were reliant on natural talent over developed skills. It might simply be the case of developing too many enemies by being too brash or too bold. Seems equally true of both.
Both had an enigmatic and attractive self assurance, but I think that quality blinded them to the subtle pulse of the world around them. Neither could really conceive of themselves not being the darling of the powers that ruled their lives and their worlds. Anne had always been a favorite, her parents, the French queen/court and then Henry. Plus she had the upper hand initially. She fled court and Henry's attentions in the beginning. I think she over estimated her own power and his devotion.
As an American the only things I knew about the Tower of London is that it once served as a prison where many notable people died (and of course even more non-notable people) and that its currently open to the public as a museum & houses the crown jewels. During the pandemic I did a deep dive on the Wars of the Roses & Tudor history, reading anything I could get my hands on, and I was surprised to learn that not only was it a prison but that it was also used as a royal residence and even a military garrison. One day I hope to be able to come see it in person.
Wonderful vid as always. It was fascinating to hear Annes letter to Henry. When he has repudiated a woman it is seemingly easy for him to move on and have no sympathy or emotions for the one he supposedly greatly loved. The Tower... such a treat to hear of the renovations that took place in Henrys time. Amazing edifice and history.
I’m watching on may 19, 2023 from here in California USA and it’s just surreal to me that we are able to carry on her memory nearly 500 years later … thank you so much for the beautiful video!!❤👑
Really enjoyed this ‘short’ version of Anne’s life. In 1986 my family was able to fly over to London to celebrate our daughter’s graduation from high school. The day we spent at the Tower was amazing! It’s very interesting to see your map of how it was when there were the other buildings. It’s easy to forget that the Tower was once more than a prison - especially since the prison aspect is what we’ve seen ourselves!!!!
If I were in London on May 19, I would leave flowers for Anne at the chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula. She didn’t deserve to be beheaded, stripped of her titles and land, and her daughter bastardized, just because her husband got tired of her. Fortunately, we do things better these days; above all, children aren’t legally punished for their parents’ failure, even the most amicable, calm divorce is hard enough on them as it is. After the murder of her mother, Elizabeth never knew a moment of real security either before or after her accession to the throne. I’m glad she had Kat Ashley in her life as a child.
I love going to bed on Thursdays knowing there’s a lovely treat waiting for us all in the morning!🎅🏼 Your premieres are the light at the end of the tunnel of the work week 🥰🎉
One can always argue that administrations fight the last battle. Henry VIII's background was unusual. He was the loved and treasured heir of a careful father. His father had taken the throne from Richard III, the last Plantagenet monarch to emerge from the War of the Roses. Richard's brother Edward, had seized the throne from a weak Henry VI, in spite of Henry's having a male heir in the control of a strong queen. Edward had then lost the throne but finally regained it for a short term of stability before dying, leaving as heirs his two underaged sons. Richard had moved against his nephew's weak minority to protect himself from the threat that he, rightfully as it turned out, perceived as coming from his nephews' mother's family. Richard attacked the legality of his older brother's marriage, eliminated (however you think) his brother's SEVEN children from the line of succession, and grabbed the throne. Richard was a grown man but the death of his heir and the move against his brother's children made him vulnerable to a rival faction. Henry, Duke of Richmond joined that rival faction, exploited that vulnerability, invaded, killed Richard in pitched battle, seized the throne and grabbed the princess as his wife. Richard, without a living heir, had left the kingdom vulnerable to an outside adventurer and the outside adventurer had succeeded. That was Henry VIII's recent history. Henry had two daughters with mothers who both had marriages that could be argued by one faction or another to be unlawful. We can assert that Henry's doubt about the legality of his marriage to Katherine was so much nonsense, but that was exactly the logic that Richard III had used against his nephew, Edward V. Henry had fathered one son, but the boy was illegitimate and therefore also vulnerable to outside attacks. Circling the reigns of Henry VII and VIII were the string of "Richard of York" pretenders ready to drive in with an army at any sign of weakness. Henry VIII, it can be argued, needed to make his position and his succession rock solid by having male heirs with an unquestioned right to the throne. To do that, he needed a queen without ANY question about the legality of her marriage and therefor her "inevitable" son's place in the line of succession. Katherine, the thorn in his side for so many years, was suddenly gone....just gone. Anne, though we can argue through no fault of her own, had failed to produce his necessary heir. Even if she did though, her son would still be vulnerable to attack from the anti-reform faction. Henry decided to clear the board and start over as he had just done with the English Church. It wasn't fair to Katherine and Mary. It wasn't fair to Anne and Elizabeth. It left young Henry, Duke of Richmond out in the cold, but it worked. Henry had a new, "blameless" queen and, in a year, a son with a rock solid claim to the throne. All he needed after that was the "spare" as he himself had been and all of Henry's dynastic plans would have been set in stone. Poor Anne was the victim of Henry's failed Plan B. When he regrouped and formed a new plan, there was no role for her and if she was still alive, she threatened the legitimacy of the next prince. In Henry and Cromwell's cold calculations, she had to go. They made a swift move against her and her supporters and surgically removed them. Cruel, ruthless, efficient and....successful, as they had done so often before to the enemies or even possible enemies of Henry's reformed English Church. The remainder of Henry's best laid plans came to naught and Cromwell came to grief two wives later. What might have happened though, if Jane had lived? That ruthless calculation might have paid off for both Henry and Cromwell.
The way women in general were victimized by men in medieval times, and the way Anne and Katherine of Aragon were treated by Henry makes me so emotional. I love that Dr Kat did a anniversary post for Anne.
The only thing I can think of is a recent quote I heard.... "If it has tyres or t_sticles, it's gonna cause you trouble!". I feel so sorry for Anne, there wasn't anything I don't think she could have done differently, once she fell out of favour, the die was cast. But how she acted was with such bravery. Bless her always.
The idea that Henry may have chosen the sword as a message is really intriguing! Almost as if to say that her French-ness is what killed her: "By French ways she lived [lasciviously] and by French ways she will die [the sword]." In that interpretation, the sword could also be a phallic symbol. Very intriguing! I feel like that would have appealed to Henry's mind. Thanks for another great video, Dr. Kat! 🏰
The fascination with the cruelty & injustice at the heart of the death Anne Boleyn when compared side by side with what appears to be a widespread disregard for the cruelty & injustice at the heart of the displacement, suffering and lonely death of Katherine of Aragon baffles me. It can only be ascribed to what I'd term deep seated misogyny. Anne was young - OK younger. She was a legendary beauty. She had glamour & renown. Desired by every man at court. Wyatt wrote one of the finest love sonnets ever penned in her honour did he not? "Whoso list to hunt" Look it up. It's about Anne. The line Noli me tangere for Caser's I am" - Latin for 'Touch me not I belong to the king." During the years when Anne, to put it bluntly, was playing homewrecker and luring the king with a very clever game of hard to get, Katherine is referred to by historians as being "old and fat and barren". So of course she had no worth to the narcissist king. Yet she apparently has no worth to modern interpreters of the period either - and for the very same reasons why she was deemed easily expendable by Henry. It is Anne's youth & beauty which makes her worthy of fealty in this modern day too. Katherine is not worth it because she had the temerity to get old. She was no longer an object of sexual desire to anyone. Therefore she had no social value and still does not. As I said - this is classic misogyny.
Everything I've read about Anne leads me to conclude she was a fiercely intelligent woman. I doubt she would have been foolish enough to engage in extramarital affairs. She was fitted up right and proper. Another victim of the temper and utter impatience (and arguably the gullibility) of one of the worst Kings ever to sit on the English throne. 👸🏰
Re: that quote at 15:15, it actually says “he that saw it not, would not believe it” (my addition of the comma and modern spelling obviously). So I think what he’s saying is basically “you had to see it to believe it” or “ if you hadn’t seen it you wouldn’t believe it”.
Another fantastic video, Dr. Kat! I love that you used the various images of the Tower to highlight areas where historical events happened/were referenced as it adds a wonderful visual frame of reference for even long time students of the Tudors. For my part the Tower of London will always be most associated with the Princes of the Tower mystery. But Anne Boleyn's association with it is certainly first runner up. 🏰👑
A wonderful presentation. And had « incontinence » meant the same thing then as it does today, you stated that « it would have made quite a mess. » This is why you are my favorite and most admired historian. Your wit is equaled by your immense understanding of the past.❤️
Dr. Kat, your videos are always so engaging...and too short! LOL! Seriously, I could listen to you for hours..oh wait, I have! I've always found Katharine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn (as well as their daughters) four of the most fascinating figures of the Tudor era if not history. Looking forward to next week! 🌹👑
Dr. Kat. I found myself transported from Virginia, USA to the Tower (I visited in 2011) and envisioned the happenings there -- though they didn’t occur where the monument is in front of St. Peter Advincula. I loved this video with your visuals and can’t thank you enough for your work.👑
I know I'm not the only one who wonders how innocent Anne truly was. To take her unjust punishment so gracefully... I dare say her belives must have been strong and kept her sane during her final days. Thank you so much for another thought provoking video. I enjoy them so much.👸
Finally read the Letter for the Tower book despite buying it immediately after watching the video when released, and thank you so much! The voice is the Anne I know, and the interpretation of Cromwell is the same as mine. Five Stars! I read it all in one evening.
It still makes my mind positively boggle, at the breadth of Henry's self-delusion and the lengths he could and did go to service his own selfish desires. Because it wasn't just Anne's life he took on the flimsiest of excuses. It wasn't just her family who were blighted by this callous turn of events. Not just her infant daughter left motherless and spending the rest of her own life, navigating the uncertainties this murky event ever overshadowed that life. But the lives of five men, wrongly accused and put to death, and the suffering that subsequently caused those families. It beggars belief and yet it happened. If ever there was a man that deserved to rot in Hell, that man is Henry the eight - selfish and without conscience. Maybe tame in his misdeeds, by comparison to some of his time, but about the biggest coward and liar. And a puzzle. How did he get to that point and do such a thing, given he was so highly praised for his intelligence and kingly bearing as a young man? Who was kidding who? I guess that's part of what makes it all still so fascinating. I can never get enough. And I can't wait to get back to the Tower in June 👸💜
It is said a head injury sustained in a riding accident triggered his change from the happy, bright, well liked young man he once was into the ill tempered, impulsive, violent man that history remembers.
One of the best videos I've ever seen on this topic! The maps comparison & reading the eyewitness accounts really brought it to life. I love this one! Thank you Dr. Kat.
I think "incontinent" here (@12:40) may mean something like "not holding back," or "eager." I haven't checked the OED on this, but this is the sense given in the online etymological dictionary.
Many thanks for the fabulous video, Dr. Kat. Interesting, today I've spent quite a bit of time thinking about Anne Boleyn and her meteoric rise and even swifter downfall, but mostly, the injustice of it all. I've been sad all day. 🏰👑⚔⚰
👸🏰 What an upside-down, sad way to live, always having to watch your back and every word you speak. Although I find her letter to Henry rather cryptic, it seems she handled herself with grace and dignity to the end. Thank you for another insightful video, Dr. Kat! 💖
Very interesting point about the French swordsman, I had not heard this theory before! One so often hears that it was a mercy gifted by Henry, but I like your theory much better. I don’t think Henry had it in him to be ‘merciful”.
Excellent and moving video, the awful contrast between her entries into the Tower is still almost chocking. Thank you, you're my favorite history channel! 😊
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and commentary about the history of this day, on this day. I always spend a moment to remember Anne Boleyn and these events on May 19. My heart clenches when I think of her in The Tower, her execution postponed yet again, and her thinking that she would be past her suffering by then.
I first discovered The Tower of London in a book about hauntings and Anne Boleyn was one of the people mentioned as one of the ghosts who haunt the Tower. 🏰👑⚔
Thank you again for a wonderful vid! ❤you! Also, could you talk about Ann’s scaffold speech a bit more. What was the thought about ‘making a good death’ vs justice at that time? Still curious.
As your videos have always fascinated and enlightened I thank you for sharing your knowledge and interpretation. Many years since I have attended university, but these moments of clarity take me back with pleasure. Thank you
👑🏰 I had never considered that Henry hiring the swordsman had been anything other than a ‘kindness’ towards her death. However your idea of it also being a comment of her adultery & pointing to her French ways has merit that seems very Henry like. A message to those in the know, and a ‘show’ of kindness towards the woman that had supposedly betrayed him.
I will get to celebrate Anne on this blackest of days, next year, at her childhood home followed by the Tower. I get to do this with other Anne supporters. I first !learned about Anne as a woman who got what she deserved. I was a Catholic school girl. They taught up until the late.60s early 70s still took the story of her homewrecking ways at face value!
👸🏻🏰. Brilliant episode once again. Must admit to missing my history news round ups but my dyslexic autistic brain really struggles to follow along with live steam videos and watching them back after never feels the same. But loving the content as always xx
I've read part of Sandra Vasolis book, so I am really am just going on my own opinion, but I just can't help but feel like the letter is genuine. From everything I've learned about Anne over the years it just feels like her. I know that's not really a valid argument, but I can't shake the feeling that it's her. She even catches an attitude with him knowing that he's about to execute her. And yes I know that there was no precedent for executing a queen, but she knew Henry like no other so she knew what he was capable of.
I am 70 and my mother used to terrify us with the Anne Boleyn song with her head tucked underneath her arm….she had black hair and it was not only frightening but one of my most vivid memories of my mother…..which says a lot
Thank you for bringing this information to our attention. I have always thought of her as an intelligent, talented, and very brave woman. The lady had class. Wow!🏰
A favorite quote attributed to Anne is a favorite of mine and so poignant, "think of me when you do pray, that hope doth lead from day to day." 👸🏻 The way that Henry disposed of Anne even moved Chapuys to pity. Remarkable in that I can't recall him ever saying anything kind about her. RIP Anne the quene.
Thank you for another informative video, Dr Kat! I think Thomas Cromwell was carrying out King Henry’s wishes. No matter how much Cromwell disliked Anne, there would have been no way he could have made these allegations against her and had her executed without the approval of Henry VIII. The King obviously just wanted Anne out of his life. Unlike Katherine, Anne didn’t have powerful foreign allies so Henry VIII did not have to worry about protracted negotiations - she was his subject so could be executed. He must have been a very cold man to be able to kill innocent men and his wife. Jane Seymour must have had nerves of steel to marry him after witnessing how he treated Anne Boleyn! 👸
I have always been fascinated by the wives of Henry VIII, especially Anne Boleyn. Thank you for the illustrations pointing out the actual locations within the Tower using illustrations showing what was there and what is there now. 👑👑👑
Oh I am soooooo excited about this!! I’m wearing my Anne Boleyn shirt and telling everyone in my office that today is “Anne Boleyn Remembrance Day”! I don’t care if it’s official - I’m making it a thing here in the states!! 😂💁🏻♀️
Good on you, the more people who remember this woman and correct Henry and Cromwell's smear campaign against her (imo) the better.
I’m so with you !! I wore my B necklace all day!
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@@Geo_Babe me too!
I like that idea: Remembrance Day. We should absolutely make that a thing! Which of course means we must have some sort of food and drink to commemorate her. Clearly, an apple recipe is called for, as we know she craved those whilst pregnant with Elizabeth I. Hmmm….
I think he was trying to emphasise the legitimacy of his offspring by Anne. The cracks in their relationship appeared soon after the birth of Elizabeth. Anne seemed to struggle with the transition from mistress to wife because it appears that Henry was less respectful of her as his wife and his romantic attention strayed quite quickly after marriage. Considering that he moved to execute Anne so quickly after Katherine’s death would indicate that he did not value her for herself but for the sons she was supposed to have.
Another engaging video, Dr. Kat: *Thank you!* The sheer *speed* of Anne Boleyn's downfall always staggers me -- but I suspect that Thomas Cromwell wanted Anne & her circle to die quickly, for his own survival. The French swordsman who executed Anne was ordered to England two weeks prior to her trial, so the outcome of that trial was a fait accompli. Re: Anne's French upbringing -- ironically, Anne grew up at the Court of French Queen Claude, who ran a strict school for aristocratic ladies, with flirtation vetoed. I am glad that serious historians nowadays reject the lie that Anne was an adulteress. Again, thank you, Dr. Kat.
I've never believed that Anne Boleyn was an adulteress. Especially after she became Henry's queen. I imagine she was almost always never alone and that there was likely a spy or two in her midst. I've read that Anne was difficult at times so there might have been someone around happy to "report" on her. The evidence that Cromwell and Henry obtained was coerced and/or tortured out of people. From what I have read about Queen Anne Boleyn, I don't think I'd have liked her, especially her treatment of the Princess Mary, but she did not deserve what happened to her.
I feel Anne knew the consequences of adultery and would not have done so.
Yesterday to honour Anne Boleyn’s murder I found and listened to a beautiful and wonderful recording of Brahm’s Eine Deutsche Requiem.
Yes, I recognize that it was written 230 years after her death. But the solemn and moving music felt appropriate. She would have loved Brahms.
Anne's letter further strengthened my belief of her innocence. Such a tragic death.
I felt the same thing.
🌟It is my opinion ~ and others, that you Dr. Kat, are the BEST historian on ALL of social media. Keep up always the FANTASTIC work!
You are incredibly kind, thank you ☺️
"incontinent" in that time meant "quickly or immediately" - when I was at school we read a play (can't remember which one!) where one of the characters said "I will return incontinent" as you can imagine it caused huge hilarity! Love the video x
Not just immediately, it usually implies they all rushed in a disorganized manner. Great word when used in this fashion. Very lively and happy.
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Such a brave final speech...really shows how diplomatic she was. I feel sorry that she miscarried a boy...things could have been so different had he lived.🏰
I read somewhere that those condemned to die at this time were obliged to say positive things about the king and the legal proceedings in order to protect their families from further repercussions. So sad, I can’t imagine people saying “God save the king” before getting their heads cut off. 😢
I have adored everything Anne Boleyn since I was a child, she was a remarkable woman, I even have her handwriting tattooed on my arm, Anne was innocent, her only crime, marrying a fickle and vain man. Thank you Dr Kat for your wonderful videos, I cant get enough, you make the past come alive
Wow u really need proffesional help and then to get a life 😂 i adore jane seymour too and other people but wont make a tatoo for anyone its scary so many lunatics are walking the streets free and she wasnt a remarkable woman she was a whore and many people were killed thanxx to her jane was a remarkable woman
I've always found the use of propaganda among medieval and early modern rulers FASCINATING! The public tends to think of propaganda as an extremely modern concept (18th century if not more recent), but it has been a core tool of monarchy since the beginning. These displays are just as much about sending the correct message to the populace as they are about the events themselves. Anne's relationship with the tower is a great example of this, from the glory of her first stay positioning her as a queen to the despair of her second stay positioning her as an outcast
The mind of a master Propagandist in the making, being Tutored from a young age, was the young King Edward, son of Henry 8th. This could be why, some read certain attitudes in his Diary entries. A Propagandist Art he would need to master, to be accepted as successful, to rule and to maintain power.
I've never before heard that letter Anne wrote to the king, what a bombshell!! Fascinating times I can't stop exploring, but holy high heaven I'm so glad I live in these times and not those! 🏰
It always blows my mind the amount of power Henry had. I know a lot of people didn't like Anne, especially because of what happened to Katherine, but the fact that no one was willing to do anything is just crazy to me. His father never could have gotten away with executing his wife, even if she wasn't Elizabeth of York. Add to the fact that Henry did it TWICE is just astounding.
Today is my birthday and it has always been one of the coolest things to me that I share my birthday with such an interesting historical woman's deathday. What she went through is tragic but absolutely fascinating. Thanks for always bringing the best in Tudor history!
Anne was regal in her reign and execution. Henry was a spoiled, egomaniac. Best to not be in his romantic sights. The Towers history is ever enduring. Thank you 😊😊
Visited the UK and the Tower in March this year, a great experience.
I believe the swordsman for her execution makes it clear above all doubt, if any doubt there was, that the trail was a setup rather than an act of "mercy". Henry must have ordered for his coming before the trial even took place.
I visited Hampton Court Palace and about cried walking through the hallways.
@@meginmdsome would argue perhaps the lingering effect of the last wife to pre-decease Henry VIII: Katherine Howard.
It is said you can hear her pleading screams from her being dragged from her chambers (she too arrested for adulterous treason) echoing through those hallways at night.
She was truly a brave soul. And super intelligent by today's standards. It's tragic that the very traits that attracted Henry were the same ones that brought about her downfall and made enemies. It is said that she failed to make the necessary transition from mistress to wife. RIP brave Anne. 👑🏰
I remember hearing a historian (cannot remember which - maybe it was Ron Chernow in his book - saying the same thing about Alexander Hamilton - that the very qualities that led to his successes during the turmoil and aftermath of the Revolution were not suited to a changed environment of the early nation and led eventually to his own downfall. I think that is something is repeats throughout history - men and women who are able to harness a moment that is suited to them but less capable of shifting course when the environment alters because they were reliant on natural talent over developed skills.
It might simply be the case of developing too many enemies by being too brash or too bold. Seems equally true of both.
Both had an enigmatic and attractive self assurance, but I think that quality blinded them to the subtle pulse of the world around them. Neither could really conceive of themselves not being the darling of the powers that ruled their lives and their worlds. Anne had always been a favorite, her parents, the French queen/court and then Henry. Plus she had the upper hand initially. She fled court and Henry's attentions in the beginning. I think she over estimated her own power and his devotion.
It was probably easier to be the side check because she didn't have to deal with what a wife would.
I am now binging on History after Dark. You guys are a hoot...so much laughing and naughty minds!
We do have a lot of fun 😂
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As an American the only things I knew about the Tower of London is that it once served as a prison where many notable people died (and of course even more non-notable people) and that its currently open to the public as a museum & houses the crown jewels. During the pandemic I did a deep dive on the Wars of the Roses & Tudor history, reading anything I could get my hands on, and I was surprised to learn that not only was it a prison but that it was also used as a royal residence and even a military garrison. One day I hope to be able to come see it in person.
This video was incredible! You're among the Queens of appreciating History! 👑👑👑👑
I'm so sad this is a premiere. 😂I'm sick and thought I found something nice to listen to. Oh well, to the archives.
Feel better soon and this will be there for you later 😊
Wonderful vid as always. It was fascinating to hear Annes letter to Henry. When he has repudiated a woman it is seemingly easy for him to move on and have no sympathy or emotions for the one he supposedly greatly loved. The Tower... such a treat to hear of the renovations that took place in Henrys time. Amazing edifice and history.
I’m watching on may 19, 2023 from here in California USA and it’s just surreal to me that we are able to carry on her memory nearly 500 years later … thank you so much for the beautiful video!!❤👑
Really enjoyed this ‘short’ version of Anne’s life. In 1986 my family was able to fly over to London to celebrate our daughter’s graduation from high school. The day we spent at the Tower was amazing! It’s very interesting to see your map of how it was when there were the other buildings. It’s easy to forget that the Tower was once more than a prison - especially since the prison aspect is what we’ve seen ourselves!!!!
If I were in London on May 19, I would leave flowers for Anne at the chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula. She didn’t deserve to be beheaded, stripped of her titles and land, and her daughter bastardized, just because her husband got tired of her. Fortunately, we do things better these days; above all, children aren’t legally punished for their parents’ failure, even the most amicable, calm divorce is hard enough on them as it is. After the murder of her mother, Elizabeth never knew a moment of real security either before or after her accession to the throne. I’m glad she had Kat Ashley in her life as a child.
She deserved everything she got for how she treated mary
Don't talk so daft. Think about what Mary did to people.
You have the most beautiful grammar! It is a pleasure to hear you speak English correctly!!!!
I love going to bed on Thursdays knowing there’s a lovely treat waiting for us all in the morning!🎅🏼 Your premieres are the light at the end of the tunnel of the work week 🥰🎉
LOVE YOU READING THAT LONG LETTER OF ANNES I NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE. IT TELLS YOU HER THINKING. I BELIEVE SHE WAS GREIVING FOR HER DAUGHTER.
Thank you, as always, for sharing your wealth of knowledge and your passion for Tudor history. This was well done. Cheers
One can always argue that administrations fight the last battle. Henry VIII's background was unusual. He was the loved and treasured heir of a careful father. His father had taken the throne from Richard III, the last Plantagenet monarch to emerge from the War of the Roses. Richard's brother Edward, had seized the throne from a weak Henry VI, in spite of Henry's having a male heir in the control of a strong queen. Edward had then lost the throne but finally regained it for a short term of stability before dying, leaving as heirs his two underaged sons. Richard had moved against his nephew's weak minority to protect himself from the threat that he, rightfully as it turned out, perceived as coming from his nephews' mother's family. Richard attacked the legality of his older brother's marriage, eliminated (however you think) his brother's SEVEN children from the line of succession, and grabbed the throne. Richard was a grown man but the death of his heir and the move against his brother's children made him vulnerable to a rival faction. Henry, Duke of Richmond joined that rival faction, exploited that vulnerability, invaded, killed Richard in pitched battle, seized the throne and grabbed the princess as his wife. Richard, without a living heir, had left the kingdom vulnerable to an outside adventurer and the outside adventurer had succeeded. That was Henry VIII's recent history.
Henry had two daughters with mothers who both had marriages that could be argued by one faction or another to be unlawful. We can assert that Henry's doubt about the legality of his marriage to Katherine was so much nonsense, but that was exactly the logic that Richard III had used against his nephew, Edward V. Henry had fathered one son, but the boy was illegitimate and therefore also vulnerable to outside attacks. Circling the reigns of Henry VII and VIII were the string of "Richard of York" pretenders ready to drive in with an army at any sign of weakness. Henry VIII, it can be argued, needed to make his position and his succession rock solid by having male heirs with an unquestioned right to the throne. To do that, he needed a queen without ANY question about the legality of her marriage and therefor her "inevitable" son's place in the line of succession. Katherine, the thorn in his side for so many years, was suddenly gone....just gone. Anne, though we can argue through no fault of her own, had failed to produce his necessary heir. Even if she did though, her son would still be vulnerable to attack from the anti-reform faction. Henry decided to clear the board and start over as he had just done with the English Church. It wasn't fair to Katherine and Mary. It wasn't fair to Anne and Elizabeth. It left young Henry, Duke of Richmond out in the cold, but it worked. Henry had a new, "blameless" queen and, in a year, a son with a rock solid claim to the throne. All he needed after that was the "spare" as he himself had been and all of Henry's dynastic plans would have been set in stone. Poor Anne was the victim of Henry's failed Plan B. When he regrouped and formed a new plan, there was no role for her and if she was still alive, she threatened the legitimacy of the next prince. In Henry and Cromwell's cold calculations, she had to go. They made a swift move against her and her supporters and surgically removed them. Cruel, ruthless, efficient and....successful, as they had done so often before to the enemies or even possible enemies of Henry's reformed English Church. The remainder of Henry's best laid plans came to naught and Cromwell came to grief two wives later. What might have happened though, if Jane had lived? That ruthless calculation might have paid off for both Henry and Cromwell.
The way women in general were victimized by men in medieval times, and the way Anne and Katherine of Aragon were treated by Henry makes me so emotional. I love that Dr Kat did a anniversary post for Anne.
The only thing I can think of is a recent quote I heard.... "If it has tyres or t_sticles, it's gonna cause you trouble!". I feel so sorry for Anne, there wasn't anything I don't think she could have done differently, once she fell out of favour, the die was cast. But how she acted was with such bravery. Bless her always.
The idea that Henry may have chosen the sword as a message is really intriguing! Almost as if to say that her French-ness is what killed her: "By French ways she lived [lasciviously] and by French ways she will die [the sword]." In that interpretation, the sword could also be a phallic symbol. Very intriguing! I feel like that would have appealed to Henry's mind. Thanks for another great video, Dr. Kat! 🏰
The fascination with the cruelty & injustice at the heart of the death Anne Boleyn when compared side by side with what appears to be a widespread disregard for the cruelty & injustice at the heart of the displacement, suffering and lonely death of Katherine of Aragon baffles me.
It can only be ascribed to what I'd term deep seated misogyny. Anne was young - OK younger. She was a legendary beauty. She had glamour & renown. Desired by every man at court. Wyatt wrote one of the finest love sonnets ever penned in her honour did he not? "Whoso list to hunt"
Look it up. It's about Anne. The line Noli me tangere for Caser's I am" - Latin for 'Touch me not I belong to the king."
During the years when Anne, to put it bluntly, was playing homewrecker and luring the king with a very clever game of hard to get, Katherine is referred to by historians as being "old and fat and barren". So of course she had no worth to the narcissist king. Yet she apparently has no worth to modern interpreters of the period either - and for the very same reasons why she was deemed easily expendable by Henry.
It is Anne's youth & beauty which makes her worthy of fealty in this modern day too. Katherine is not worth it because she had the temerity to get old. She was no longer an object of sexual desire to anyone. Therefore she had no social value and still does not.
As I said - this is classic misogyny.
Great video as always. What a wretch Henry was.
Everything I've read about Anne leads me to conclude she was a fiercely intelligent woman. I doubt she would have been foolish enough to engage in extramarital affairs. She was fitted up right and proper. Another victim of the temper and utter impatience (and arguably the gullibility) of one of the worst Kings ever to sit on the English throne. 👸🏰
Re: that quote at 15:15, it actually says “he that saw it not, would not believe it” (my addition of the comma and modern spelling obviously). So I think what he’s saying is basically “you had to see it to believe it” or “ if you hadn’t seen it you wouldn’t believe it”.
Another fantastic video, Dr. Kat! I love that you used the various images of the Tower to highlight areas where historical events happened/were referenced as it adds a wonderful visual frame of reference for even long time students of the Tudors. For my part the Tower of London will always be most associated with the Princes of the Tower mystery. But Anne Boleyn's association with it is certainly first runner up. 🏰👑
A wonderful presentation. And had « incontinence » meant the same thing then as it does today, you stated that « it would have made quite a mess. » This is why you are my favorite and most admired historian. Your wit is equaled by your immense understanding of the past.❤️
😍 Another Friday, another video! They start my weekend. Thank you, Dr Kaat. 🙇♂
Dr. Kat, your videos are always so engaging...and too short! LOL! Seriously, I could listen to you for hours..oh wait, I have! I've always found Katharine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn (as well as their daughters) four of the most fascinating figures of the Tudor era if not history. Looking forward to next week! 🌹👑
Dr. Kat. I found myself transported from Virginia, USA to the Tower (I visited in 2011) and envisioned the happenings there -- though they didn’t occur where the monument is in front of St. Peter Advincula. I loved this video with your visuals and can’t thank you enough for your work.👑
Hearing her final speech always puts a lump in my throat!
Each video you make about the Tudors scratches the itch to rewatch the whole TV show. I'll cave in eventually 😉
I absolutely adore your channel! Specially your Tudor content! Looking forward to this!😊😊❤❤
Thank you! I hope you enjoy this one!
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I know I'm not the only one who wonders how innocent Anne truly was. To take her unjust punishment so gracefully... I dare say her belives must have been strong and kept her sane during her final days.
Thank you so much for another thought provoking video. I enjoy them so much.👸
Absolutely delighted that May 19th converged on a Friday this year to produce this excellent video to mark the occasion 💕👸
Finally read the Letter for the Tower book despite buying it immediately after watching the video when released, and thank you so much! The voice is the Anne I know, and the interpretation of Cromwell is the same as mine. Five Stars! I read it all in one evening.
This is the perfect video! I am visiting the tower tomorrow and can't wait to feel the history and see the places you have spoken about in this video!
Thanks for another interesting video, I always look forward to them 😄
Love Dr. Kay’s engagement, perspectives, and presentation style 👑
It still makes my mind positively boggle, at the breadth of Henry's self-delusion and the lengths he could and did go to service his own selfish desires. Because it wasn't just Anne's life he took on the flimsiest of excuses. It wasn't just her family who were blighted by this callous turn of events. Not just her infant daughter left motherless and spending the rest of her own life, navigating the uncertainties this murky event ever overshadowed that life. But the lives of five men, wrongly accused and put to death, and the suffering that subsequently caused those families. It beggars belief and yet it happened. If ever there was a man that deserved to rot in Hell, that man is Henry the eight - selfish and without conscience. Maybe tame in his misdeeds, by comparison to some of his time, but about the biggest coward and liar. And a puzzle. How did he get to that point and do such a thing, given he was so highly praised for his intelligence and kingly bearing as a young man? Who was kidding who? I guess that's part of what makes it all still so fascinating. I can never get enough. And I can't wait to get back to the Tower in June 👸💜
It is said a head injury sustained in a riding accident triggered his change from the happy, bright, well liked young man he once was into the ill tempered, impulsive, violent man that history remembers.
Dr.Kat's channel is brilliant! Educational, fascinating and fun. This is positively one of my favorite channels. Great video as always! ❤❤❤
One of the best videos I've ever seen on this topic! The maps comparison & reading the eyewitness accounts really brought it to life. I love this one! Thank you Dr. Kat.
I drove past the Tower of London this morning while crossing tower bridge. It’s impressive.
Thank you for this very inciteful look at Anne Boleyn. I have always admired her strength, courage & independence.👸🌹
I think "incontinent" here (@12:40) may mean something like "not holding back," or "eager." I haven't checked the OED on this, but this is the sense given in the online etymological dictionary.
Many thanks for the fabulous video, Dr. Kat. Interesting, today I've spent quite a bit of time thinking about Anne Boleyn and her meteoric rise and even swifter downfall, but mostly, the injustice of it all. I've been sad all day. 🏰👑⚔⚰
👸🏰 What an upside-down, sad way to live, always having to watch your back and every word you speak. Although I find her letter to Henry rather cryptic, it seems she handled herself with grace and dignity to the end. Thank you for another insightful video, Dr. Kat! 💖
That's how life is in a narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic system.
Very interesting point about the French swordsman, I had not heard this theory before! One so often hears that it was a mercy gifted by Henry, but I like your theory much better. I don’t think Henry had it in him to be ‘merciful”.
Thanks Kat! As always spectacular, interesting and delivered brilliantly!
Excellent and moving video, the awful contrast between her entries into the Tower is still almost chocking. Thank you, you're my favorite history channel! 😊
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Thank you for this Kat, today we honour a brave and determined lady, Queen Anne Boleyn
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Your videos are always interesting! ❤
Such an eloquent lady and presenter
🏰 👸 Outstanding Dr. Kat! I look forward to Fridays because I curl up on the couch and visit with Dr. Kat.❤
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and commentary about the history of this day, on this day. I always spend a moment to remember Anne Boleyn and these events on May 19. My heart clenches when I think of her in The Tower, her execution postponed yet again, and her thinking that she would be past her suffering by then.
(As a chronic migraine sufferer, I have at times jokingly wished for the Swordsman of Calais, but never in this day…)
Great video. I love the comparison between the beginning and end of Queen Anne Boleyn 🏵️
Thank you 😊
I first discovered The Tower of London in a book about hauntings and Anne Boleyn was one of the people mentioned as one of the ghosts who haunt the Tower. 🏰👑⚔
Thank you again for a wonderful vid! ❤you! Also, could you talk about Ann’s scaffold speech a bit more. What was the thought about ‘making a good death’ vs justice at that time? Still curious.
As your videos have always fascinated and enlightened I thank you for sharing your knowledge and interpretation. Many years since I have attended university, but these moments of clarity take me back with pleasure. Thank you
👑🏰 I had never considered that Henry hiring the swordsman had been anything other than a ‘kindness’ towards her death. However your idea of it also being a comment of her adultery & pointing to her French ways has merit that seems very Henry like. A message to those in the know, and a ‘show’ of kindness towards the woman that had supposedly betrayed him.
Thanks! Always learn something from your videos. 😍
Thank you so much ☺️
Thanks!
Thank you!
Dr. Kat thank you for your engaging presentations of Tudor history.
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You are the best Dr Kat. I cannot get enough of details on this topic, and the Tudor period. 👑
I will get to celebrate Anne on this blackest of days, next year, at her childhood home followed by the Tower. I get to do this with other Anne supporters. I first !learned about Anne as a woman who got what she deserved. I was a Catholic school girl. They taught up until the late.60s early 70s still took the story of her homewrecking ways at face value!
Thank you roe another wonderful idea. Dr. Kat. Woo to a women who puts her faith in men.😢
Wonderful video! Always enjoy these
👸🏻🏰. Brilliant episode once again. Must admit to missing my history news round ups but my dyslexic autistic brain really struggles to follow along with live steam videos and watching them back after never feels the same. But loving the content as always xx
I enjoy listening to your informative videos on history and the Tudors! 👸
Kat would you please someday talk about the mystery of where Anne Boleyn's heart is buried? Thanks!
And her B necklace
I’ve often wondered what happened to that
Thanks for another fascinating talk Dr. Kat👑🏰
I've read part of Sandra Vasolis book, so I am really am just going on my own opinion, but I just can't help but feel like the letter is genuine. From everything I've learned about Anne over the years it just feels like her. I know that's not really a valid argument, but I can't shake the feeling that it's her. She even catches an attitude with him knowing that he's about to execute her. And yes I know that there was no precedent for executing a queen, but she knew Henry like no other so she knew what he was capable of.
As always, you educated your audience well, Dr. Kat! 👸
I am 70 and my mother used to terrify us with the Anne Boleyn song with her head tucked underneath her arm….she had black hair and it was not only frightening but one of my most vivid memories of my mother…..which says a lot
Thank you Dr. Kat for another great and informative video. 👑 Rest in Peace Anne 🌹
I'm already learning a lot from your channel. Top research and excellent presentation.
Thank you for bringing this information to our attention. I have always thought of her as an intelligent, talented, and very brave woman. The lady had class. Wow!🏰
They may have the history of queens... but WEEEE have the Queen of History 👸🏻👸🏻👸🏻👑
Fascinating breakdown as always! 😊
A favorite quote attributed to Anne is a favorite of mine and so poignant, "think of me when you do pray, that hope doth lead from day to day." 👸🏻
The way that Henry disposed of Anne even moved Chapuys to pity. Remarkable in that I can't recall him ever saying anything kind about her.
RIP Anne the quene.
Wonderful video Dr Kat, thank you so much! 👑👸
I always felt the sword was a statement not mercy. Awesome video. Thank you.
Again another wonderful video. I never considered the French connection and potential deeper meaning behind the swordsman!!
Great mini documentary. Im a new subscriber! Thank you for a fantastic presentation, Dr. Kat. 🏰👑
As always, thanks for posting. 👍
Thank you for another informative video, Dr Kat! I think Thomas Cromwell was carrying out King Henry’s wishes. No matter how much Cromwell disliked Anne, there would have been no way he could have made these allegations against her and had her executed without the approval of Henry VIII. The King obviously just wanted Anne out of his life. Unlike Katherine, Anne didn’t have powerful foreign allies so Henry VIII did not have to worry about protracted negotiations - she was his subject so could be executed. He must have been a very cold man to be able to kill innocent men and his wife. Jane Seymour must have had nerves of steel to marry him after witnessing how he treated Anne Boleyn! 👸
I have always been fascinated by the wives of Henry VIII, especially Anne Boleyn. Thank you for the illustrations pointing out the actual locations within the Tower using illustrations showing what was there and what is there now. 👑👑👑
Another wonderful video. Thank you for all your research and hard work.
Thanks for a great video you Rock Dr.Kat