Familiar and Unfamiliar Spots in Spider-Man 2

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2023
  • In honor of Spider-Man 2 coming out, I thought I'd make a video on Spider-Man 2. No, not the 2023 game. No, not The Amazing Spider-Man 2 video game based off the movie. No, not The Amazing Spider-Man 2 movie. No, not the 2004 movie. No, not the Spider-Man 2 video game based off that movie.
    Wait, yeah, it's that one.
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    Music Used:
    Intro - Swing from a Thread (Spider-Man 2, 2004)
    01:04 - Galbadia Garden (Final Fantasy VII)
    06:26 - Atelier City Zeiss (The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky)
    12:15 - City Trial (Kirby Air Ride)
    15:44 - Secret of the Forest (Chrono Trigger)
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Комментарии • 81

  • @leonje99
    @leonje99 9 месяцев назад +51

    Fun fact! The xbox version has special grass graphics, it looks like parallax to add depth, it was the first time I saw that technique!

    • @leonje99
      @leonje99 6 месяцев назад +4

      Now that I think about it more, I think it looked more like the "shell texturing" technique, one mothern example of that same usage in games is the GTAV grass

    • @michi-fv2mf
      @michi-fv2mf 10 дней назад

      @@leonje99 It´s also used in RDR2 for fur

  • @giwake
    @giwake 9 месяцев назад +39

    i've always found games from this era to be really interesting texture-wise, stuff like tony hawk's underground, half life 2, max payne and the 2001 version of DNF, that look where they've just taken photos of things and slapped them onto models to make textures is just so cool to me. it's kind of a reminder that there were people who went out and took photos of things, physical objects behind the scenes, friends or family who were photographed to become characters and so on.
    i've always found that style interesting, there was a fantastic game called forbidden siren, where a huge majority of the textures were made out of photos of things. they made physical versions of items which were photographed and turned into graphics for the game. it's a really cool style and i hope it makes a comeback in the indie scene

  • @LittleGalaxyBoy
    @LittleGalaxyBoy 9 месяцев назад +9

    2:31 I Know that's the iconic Grand Central Terminal, right behind it should be the Metlife building while to the right should be the Chrysler Building.
    3:13 I do recognise this building but I know it's not the Courthouse or City Hall. 3:34 Looks like the Grand Central Terminal in the background so maybe this building is the New York Public Library. It even has a park behind it known as "Bryant Park" so that could be what the green area was trying to reflect.
    3:55 This is the UN, At 3:55 this is the United Nations Visitor Centre and to the right of it at 3:58 is the main UN Headquarters. The general shape of this buildings is very accurate with how everything connections together, connecting to the HQ. But the flat area should have a cycle road that allows cars to go in and out with round décor in the middle similar to a roundabout.
    4:52 This is the canter of Columbia University with the building in front being the Low Memorial Library with the stairs leading up to it while the building at 5:08 looks to be Butler Library.
    5:22 Yep like in real life the only way to get to Roosevelt Island from Manhattan is to take a ferry across. There is a bridge connecting the island to Queens though but as the game is only set in Manhattan it makes sense they'd leave out the bridge. Funny enough that bridge connects right into a car park as well so you could just park your car the second you get onto the island and just walk around. Also the Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge itself that kind of just hovers over the island is pretty spot on.
    It's so cool watching this video after playing Spider-Man 2 (2023) and seeing these same location but in higher detail. Only building that's missing is the Chrysler Building as they lost the rights or something, Miles Morales was the first game to not feature the Chrysler Building, replaced by a generic modern building instead which carried over into Spider-Man 2.

  • @VexxyKay
    @VexxyKay 9 месяцев назад +22

    It reminds me a lot of Driver Parallel Lines in a way, that game has a big focus on driving throughout it that I never really went to fully explore the map on foot, but when I did I was pleasantly surprised by the detail the game's depiction of New York has. It has interesting areas that I never would've seen if I hadn't stop to explore. The game also takes place in both 1978 and 2006 and there are actual map differences that are exclusive to both years (Twin Towers are gone, more paths opened up, buildings under construction are finished, more bus stops and worn out street textures, etc.)

  • @_mickmccarthy
    @_mickmccarthy 9 месяцев назад +10

    "Oh no, my balloon!" - Still haunts me to this day

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +4

      You should have been allowed to bring back the balloon to the kid, but then pop it right in front of them I think

    • @demon-goat
      @demon-goat 9 месяцев назад +2

      I LOST MY BALLOOHOOON

  • @CoolSmoovie
    @CoolSmoovie 9 месяцев назад +9

    The swinging in this game is still unbeaten. The skill ceiling is huge

  • @CathodeRayKobold
    @CathodeRayKobold 9 месяцев назад +12

    It's crazy to me that this game is on the same console that had Ratchet and Clank 3 and Metal Gear Solid 3. I'm pretty sure there are as many polygons in Ocelot's windy coat model as there are in the entirety of Manhattan.

  • @DaniMZ91
    @DaniMZ91 9 месяцев назад +23

    This game is absolutely amazing. The number of hours I spent playing it is insane. It's funny because I remember walking on the streets really often because I wanted to feel "normal," and the "realistic" graphics and atmosphere blew my mind. Now, seeing your video makes me feel a little bit nostalgic. I still have the original PS2 disc with its box in pretty good shape.

  • @tipofiero
    @tipofiero 5 месяцев назад +3

    that letter says: dear mj, i wrote you but you still ain't calling...

  • @zacharyharris2177
    @zacharyharris2177 9 месяцев назад +4

    I also really like what they did with the skybox in this game. It just felt dynamic. At sunset/sunrise the sky gets so colorful to an insane degree

  • @jonsmith6331
    @jonsmith6331 9 месяцев назад +4

    That "little grass patch" behind the "fancy building" is Bryant Park

  • @smallgoblin5500
    @smallgoblin5500 9 месяцев назад +4

    havent even watched the video yet already know its a banger
    @6:09 we actually do have our own Alcatraz, It's called Riker's Island!

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад

      Funnily enough, I remember that now from Spider-Man ps4. It all comes full circle.

  • @alexanderleach2424
    @alexanderleach2424 6 месяцев назад +2

    On the matter of the incomprehensible image in the bathroom. To me it looks like a 60s psychedelic band or concert poster.

    • @mrundy9351
      @mrundy9351 4 месяца назад +1

      It almost looks like a zoomed in Exseption Bingo album.

  • @Anonymous-hf8nx
    @Anonymous-hf8nx 8 месяцев назад +4

    Man I wish I found your channel earlier, its awesome! You completely changed the way I look at video games and now I really appreciate just how much work goes into little details that are purely for world building. I would love to see a world tour of some of these games, if you like:
    -Mafia 1
    -GTA San Andreas
    -Assassin's Creed 2
    -Thief 2
    -Half Life 2
    -Splinter Cell
    -Spongebob Battle For Bikini Bottom
    -Max Payne

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  8 месяцев назад +3

      A lot of those are games I have on my big list of things to cover. All great suggestions though 🙌

  • @demon-goat
    @demon-goat 9 месяцев назад +11

    as a (non-US-native) person who knows a fair bit about manhattan, this game does a super surprising job at adding in tons of landmarks and accurate geography! well, it’s waaaaay smaller than the real island of course, but the general shape and the relation of where landmarks should be between one another is pretty dang accurate! they coulda just slapped the empire state building there and called it a day, but they really added a lot of detail
    3:53 I believe this is a rudimentary version of the real-world united nations building, which appears in the ps4 game too. that empty space is occupied by a parking lot in real life i think

  • @termsservice9396
    @termsservice9396 3 месяца назад +2

    There’s actually a functioning clock tower in this game. Also I didn’t know you could enter his apartment.

  • @BobDoodlesmoth
    @BobDoodlesmoth 9 месяцев назад +3

    When I played through this game a couple months ago I thought about your channel particularly during the indoor parts of the game like the Daily Bugle and the warehouse where you fight shocker. I thought about requesting this game but never got around to it so this is a nice surprise!

  • @RustyNips
    @RustyNips 9 месяцев назад +6

    I remember being so disappointed that i couldnt go to the statue of liberty or the other islands in spidermanps4 i spent so much time going to and hanging out in those places in spiderman2 it really felt like a step back lol
    I still prefer spiderman 2 over it its just got its charm plus balloon missions, pizza time and the classic pedestrian lines when you run into them. They dont care your the spiderman they are walking and your in their way. Very accurate to real-life

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +3

      Kinda related to the pedestrian lines, I do like that in spiderman ps4 that you can interact with civilians if you press the punch button while on the street. Like waving to them or giving them the finger guns. I think that's cute.

  • @d4n737
    @d4n737 4 дня назад

    I've been listening to this in the background and I've heard "I don't know much about New York City, but I know Faries exist"
    I was like... What the hell, there's fae in NYC? I replayed it and... oh, FERRIES. Like, boats

  • @rhodahaque
    @rhodahaque 6 месяцев назад +2

    I wasn't expecting a Monument Mythos reference.

    • @CursedLink666
      @CursedLink666 6 месяцев назад

      so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that, had to check the comments to make sure i wasn't crazy

  • @vladyjr
    @vladyjr 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have so many memories of this game growing up. I love this little virtual tour of low poly NYC! Also I think the reason you remember the arcade so well (and I do too) is because it's one of the few enterable buildings that isn't a shop. I played those minigames more than I like to admit 😅

  • @jarroddavis2876
    @jarroddavis2876 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to see a video for spider-man 3. It had an insanely detailed world

  • @PoopingPills
    @PoopingPills 9 месяцев назад

    I just found this series and your channel. I love this idea of video. It’s great. Summed up a lot of thoughts I had as a kid for multiple games. Keep it up!

  • @Big98Bob
    @Big98Bob 9 месяцев назад +2

    You’ve got a really great game selection for your video! All games that I have played through out my life.

  • @nyperold7530
    @nyperold7530 9 месяцев назад +1

    Reminds me more of that one room in the City in the Sky, with the moving Peahats. Maybe if we combined our experiences...

  • @IDHLEB
    @IDHLEB 3 дня назад

    Oh no. Doctor Connors' class.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 10 дней назад

    The most striking area of Manhattan in this game - to me - is the twin pillars of light standing in place of the WTC in lower Manhattan. To my knowledge that's the only time that temporary part of the NYC skyline has been rendered in a game.
    As a New Yorker, who got to visit Ground Zero after they cleared most of the debris but before they erected the pillars, it felt very strange to stand there in a video game.

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 9 дней назад

      True Crime New York also had that. Well, it had the site at least. Made it out like a full on construction site at the time it was made in 2006 or so. And that was a near 1:1 Manhattan.
      Driver Parallel Lines also had it too in the 2006 setting of the game, although that depiction of the city was way scaled down. Also came out in that year

  • @Xegethra
    @Xegethra 9 дней назад

    If you want more New York, try out True Crime New York, a near 1:1 Manhattan. And Driver Parallel Lines, had most of New York City as a whole, but was way scaled down.

  • @thepopmanbrad
    @thepopmanbrad 9 месяцев назад +1

    one thing i love about old games is the worlds yeah they look ugly yeah there pixelated but looking at all the stuff from that time like seeing actual products from real life its like a pocket of time where you could see how everything was back in those days

  • @Slyfincleton
    @Slyfincleton 4 месяца назад

    Great video, glad to see appreciation for this game!

  • @jonass961
    @jonass961 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome video. I envied my friend so much when he got this game in 2004, it felt so realistic haha. As a kid I always wanted to follow the bridge westward to the mainland you can‘t reach (New Jersey I think?) but there is a barrier sadly

  • @harrisonnnnn
    @harrisonnnnn 9 месяцев назад +1

    great video as always!

  • @aZeddPrattFilm
    @aZeddPrattFilm 9 месяцев назад

    I really liked this keep doing more of these

  • @maxsh3623
    @maxsh3623 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good video!

  • @rlira8072
    @rlira8072 3 месяца назад

    I wish someone ported this game to pc just so modders could make the world more lively and detailed

  • @paperclip9558
    @paperclip9558 23 дня назад

    You didnt visit the in-game form of two tower memorial in here? Aww You totally should! Its kinda cool that they actually acknowledge that 9/11 happened in spiderman 2.

  • @orionvdv499
    @orionvdv499 9 месяцев назад +2

    you should totally do tony hawk underground 2 and wake around !

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm a BIG THPS fan. I will cover the games some day, mark my words.

    • @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks
      @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks 9 месяцев назад

      @@PretzelYT Now the question is whether or not you do the original or the remake. I'm not sure what I'd prefer tbh.

  • @orionvdv499
    @orionvdv499 9 месяцев назад

    plz make a video about go vacation!! i used to roam around those islands and pretend i lived there a lot as a kid . so nostalgic …

  • @ItsDannyBoy
    @ItsDannyBoy 9 месяцев назад

    God I love this series

  • @jamesbrincefield9879
    @jamesbrincefield9879 9 месяцев назад +1

    You should do one on Shenmue/Shenmue 2. I think its world(s) excel in the “bizarre and unassuming” area. Final Fantasy XI/Final Fantasy XII and even XIII all do it fairly well too, even though the latter is mostly just a straight line.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад

      The only one I have experience with that you mentioned is Final Fantasy XII. I did think about making a video on it some months ago, but I stopped playing the game for whatever reason.
      I REALLY wanna get back into it though. I absolutely adored the gambit system, it's one of my favorite RPG systems.
      Shenmue seems cool as well. I've dabbled in Yakuza over the years, and it seems like they go for similar things with their worlds.

  • @ssssssssssssssssss50
    @ssssssssssssssssss50 9 месяцев назад

    0:50 i did! Why would i? Because Bruce Campbell was nagging me to swing

  • @BruceWayne-ww2ey
    @BruceWayne-ww2ey 2 месяца назад

    Looks very similar to ultimate spiderman

  • @kage28
    @kage28 9 месяцев назад

    would love to see you cover Deus Ex (2000). Great video as usual!

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +1

      I've been meaning to give that game a good fair shake sometime. I beat human revolution and played a lot of mankind divided some years ago and really liked them. I'm sure I'd love the original.

    • @kage28
      @kage28 9 месяцев назад

      @@PretzelYT Yes, I'm sure you would... Enjoy!
      And keep up the good work :)

  • @epicmaster46
    @epicmaster46 Месяц назад

    Wait, was that Statue of Liberty joke a Monument Mythos reference?

  • @bewaretheconficker
    @bewaretheconficker 9 месяцев назад +1

    I've had a blast playing the new Spider-Man 2 don't get me wrong, but this game will always be the one for me. I think a lot of it is the being full of "that vibe" of games of this era with its cozy crispy textured look and the hearty jank with its voice acting and atmosphere. I never noticed in the one comic store they have a big photo of the Lizard model's face at 12:03 besides the sewer concept art, you can see his snout and orange eye. There was a whole sewer constructed that was cut, that's my holy grail for this game is just seeing more of the early development stuff someday hopefully

  • @chevy-is-a-good-boy
    @chevy-is-a-good-boy 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wish Duke Nukem Zero: Hour was on your hit list. Totally random, I know.

  • @Early2000sPs2games
    @Early2000sPs2games 21 день назад

    It’s a guy spray painting and it says rock on the poster

  • @xtninertwo8728
    @xtninertwo8728 9 месяцев назад

    Hey man, what's the synth that you play in the intro where the VHS case with your name pops in? It's super smooth and it's from a song I'd love to hear it all! Thanks!

    • @harrisonnnnn
      @harrisonnnnn 9 месяцев назад

      I second this question

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +1

      freesound.org/s/523099/
      It's a little jingle created by MagnusWaker. It only has 154 downloads on freesound.org, but it's a great little thing. Would have expected it to have more with its quality.

    • @xtninertwo8728
      @xtninertwo8728 9 месяцев назад

      @@PretzelYT Thank you so much! I'm definitely checking it out now!

  • @literallynothinghere9089
    @literallynothinghere9089 6 месяцев назад

    Bro can you pls do Midtown madness tour 😢

  • @akiraeatsguitarpicks491
    @akiraeatsguitarpicks491 9 месяцев назад +1

    The REAL Spider-Man 2

  • @TheDGBgamers
    @TheDGBgamers 9 месяцев назад

    11:46 based Killer7 enjoyer

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад

      I feel like I MUST disclose that I have not played Killer7. I just know the game exists 😢

  • @NutScrewGamer
    @NutScrewGamer 9 месяцев назад +3

    I think I feel special to be the first view and comment

    • @ggspooks7915
      @ggspooks7915 9 месяцев назад +1

      we will go to Valhalla

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +1

      A true pretizen, through and through.

  • @ggspooks7915
    @ggspooks7915 9 месяцев назад +1

    2nd comment 😊

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  9 месяцев назад +2

      I appreciate all my commenters the same as the first. Thank you for your service. 🫡

  • @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks
    @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks 9 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing how this game actually looked gave me whiplash.

    • @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks
      @ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks 9 месяцев назад

      It's so eerie. My god.

    • @Etrius0023
      @Etrius0023 9 месяцев назад +3

      Open world games on PS2 are technically impressive but graphically they've aged terribly.
      Ultimate Spider-Man has much better graphics but they had to compromise the web swinging A LOT.

    • @garethdwright91
      @garethdwright91 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Etrius0023 Ultimate Spiderman had even worse clip in and pop up issues than this game though, at least on the Gamecube.

    • @Etrius0023
      @Etrius0023 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@garethdwright91 The pop-in is terrible, sure. But it looks great for a PS2 game.