The Tragic Story of Metroid Prime Speedrunning's Biggest Bounty

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  • @DoctorSwellman
    @DoctorSwellman  Год назад +158

    EDIT: I made an error stating that T3 did not use discord. He does and has since 2016, but wasn't actively participating in the Prime 1 speedrunning discord at that time.
    Also, here's some additional context from T3 on being contacted about the bounty:
    "I was contacted on discord by jacktherigger and several others about the bounty in Feb 2022. I responded, he never replied and ghosted.
    I run prime for my personal enjoyment not money so I don't really care if he delivers or not."
    Thank you all for watching!

  • @Nemo2342
    @Nemo2342 Год назад +244

    I'm definitely getting old (or at least more cynical), because I saw "$1000 bounty" and immediately thought it wouldn't be worth it once you converted it to an hourly rate.

    • @DoctorSwellman
      @DoctorSwellman  Год назад +50

      Imagine if you had to pay taxes on it too 😅

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin Год назад +11

      Well if you are playing it for free a lot of the time anyway

    • @Nemo2342
      @Nemo2342 Год назад +3

      @@drowningin If he was just giving a prize if new records were set, then maybe. However these were clearly designed to get people to really work, and work hard, to find new routes or just grind out attempts until all the RNG fell into place.

    • @codahighland
      @codahighland Год назад +14

      ​@@DoctorSwellman You DO have to pay taxes on it...

    • @MarioLuigi0404
      @MarioLuigi0404 Год назад +22

      Bounties aren’t supposed to be a sustainable source of income. This is the same fundamental misunderstanding that happened with the BotW Multiplayer bounty.
      They’re meant to serve as an extra little bit of motivation for people who are already trying to do something, in this case set a lower and lower record.

  • @TigeriPlaysGames
    @TigeriPlaysGames Год назад +49

    guy who uses crypto is full of shit? gasp, who could've seen that coming

  • @Ukkosade
    @Ukkosade Год назад +41

    maybe he was just "overflowing with money" with the crypto rise, and when the crypto crashed, he lost almost everything and went back to being a pleb xD

    • @ShadowEclipse777
      @ShadowEclipse777 Год назад +25

      This. I don't think he intended to scam people out of their winnings, but because he was a dumbass cryptobro he didn't get out when the going was good and lost all the prize money

  • @lillithplays6514
    @lillithplays6514 Год назад +328

    The fact that he offered Bitcoin should've been a red flag.

    • @zEr-ne5ri
      @zEr-ne5ri Год назад +3

      a men

    • @LemonMori
      @LemonMori Год назад +1

      @@zEr-ne5ria men

    • @That_One_Sunshine_Knight
      @That_One_Sunshine_Knight Год назад +15

      And a name like Jacktherigger; I don't know if this person plays a role in the Metroid Speedrunning community. But still a name like that, and to payout in Bitcoin as a choice.
      Seems fishy.

    • @Siinory
      @Siinory Год назад

      That and the name, I mean JacktheRIGGER

    • @celestialkitsune
      @celestialkitsune Год назад +7

      And the fact it's "paypall"?

  • @bramble553
    @bramble553 Год назад +21

    "...Paid Out in either US Dollars or *Bitcoin.*"
    Gee, I sure do wonder what went wrong here.

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Год назад +171

    As soon as I saw 'or BTC'... Well, lets just say Jack might not HAVE the money to pay people anymore even if he wanted to.

    • @GamerNym
      @GamerNym Год назад +15

      Yeah I saw that and realized I was more sad than mad about this. Still mad. Just more sad.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin Год назад +8

      Plus COVID, he may of lost job. It happens

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Год назад +6

      @@drowningin may *have

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin Год назад +5

      @@inthefade you may want to get a job grading papers instead *have annoying people in RUclips comments

    • @ZeroKitsune
      @ZeroKitsune Год назад +10

      @@drowningin If you'd bothered to learn grammar the first time, you wouldn't have to get so annoyed at people correcting you all the time.

  • @tylerherr4288
    @tylerherr4288 Год назад +7

    let this be a lesson for people
    DONT
    FUCKING
    TRUST
    NEW
    CURRENCIES

  • @MetalGlennSolid
    @MetalGlennSolid Год назад +16

    never trust a crypto bro. good watch.

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 Год назад +25

    Me at the beginning of the video: Uhoh, I know where this is going
    Me 3/4 of the way through the video: Oh, its just that the runner is weird and won't be contactable, that's good that the person isn't going to scam people out of their money like I thought
    Me at the end of the video: ShockedPIkachu

  • @idontwantahandlethough
    @idontwantahandlethough Год назад +18

    But it turns out the $1000 cash prize was inside our hearts all along 🙂

    • @tails183
      @tails183 Год назад +4

      Sounds like an artery clog to me. No thanks.

  • @TaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTao
    @TaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTaoTao Год назад +15

    Jack sounds like the crypto bro who got in early, thought nothing would ever happen, make claims, and reality set in. Smarter if he just put the 4k of btc out at the height. But then again imo 99% of cryptro bros are gamble addicts.

    • @ShadowEclipse777
      @ShadowEclipse777 Год назад +1

      Honestly I regret not buy into Crypto because I thought it'd crash into oblivion 10x faster than it did. Could have easily swindled some fools of their money

    • @ZeroKitsune
      @ZeroKitsune Год назад +2

      @@ShadowEclipse777 Eh...I see it more like lottery tickets. That ticket you passed on happened to win a million dollars? I mean yeah that could have been you...but there was a reason you didn't buy it, and if you saw another lottery ticket next time it still wouldn't be smart to get it.

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 Год назад

      that's the thing though, you never know it's the height until after it drops

  • @matttran7161
    @matttran7161 Год назад +5

    Ok this wasn't as tragic as I thought it was going to be so that's a relief. Sucks they got ghosted, but I'm glad they're all OK.

  • @camwyn256
    @camwyn256 Год назад +2

    So sad they fixed the sideways speed cap for the Wii Trilogy release.
    I so wanted to get double jump early, just for a casual play

  • @BashPrime
    @BashPrime Год назад +10

    If Jack comes back will the bounties technically be remastered?

    • @DoctorSwellman
      @DoctorSwellman  Год назад +6

      This might actually be the comment of the year, holy shit

    • @Beanee27
      @Beanee27 Год назад +1

      🤯

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Год назад +50

    I missed this Era of gaming for some reason, so these are always fascinating to me. The Strafe Dashing reminds me so much of Unreal Tournament 2003 / 2004. You could link side hops to double jumps for something very similar and people would be navigating the world sideways.

    • @Twisted_Logic
      @Twisted_Logic Год назад +1

      There's a really cool guide on Metroid Prime movement. I'd love to see an arena shooter with movement inspired by it

    • @lhfirex
      @lhfirex Год назад +2

      That's basically what inspired it. Not UT specifically, though. It's Prime's version of Quake strafe jumping/bunny hopping.

    • @Laerbn
      @Laerbn Год назад +2

      UT04 trials maps were where I lived

    • @Kasaaz
      @Kasaaz Год назад +3

      @@Laerbn I remember when I finally figured out how to use the speed of the strafe jump to get up a level on some of the maps in those little shortcut panels.
      I never had great aim with snipers, etc. But I could work out the angle on rockets and use them to push my opponents to a dead stop and set them up because the speed of the movement meant I could get in close and be hard to hit.
      Then I remember being so crushed when I finally go to play Unreal Tournament 3 and they had like this awkward hoverboard thing.
      The movement in UT04 is still the pinnacle for me in any FPS game.

  • @deebee5378
    @deebee5378 Год назад +4

    Considering the amount of hours people put into speedrunning, there are much easier ways to make $1K

  • @VinnytotheK
    @VinnytotheK Год назад +9

    The theory at the end about Bitcoin would make sense, if only he didn't say that there was an option to be paid in USD. This makes me think he would've, if it was ever real, converted his money to Bitcoin at the time of payout, not prior to anyone completing the bounties.

    • @TyphinHoofbun
      @TyphinHoofbun Год назад +2

      Or he was holding BTC and expecting it to keep rising, and figured he'd cash out to USD to pay out if that's what the winner chose.

  • @Onyxs
    @Onyxs Год назад +1

    Never knew that Metroid Prime speedruns were as crazy to see like this as they are, especially for a game as amazing like this. Wonder if the community will be as eager to try and speedrun the remaster with how good it controls and looks now, or if the OG is just got all the right things going for it that there’s no need

    • @YutaponCube
      @YutaponCube Год назад +1

      The scan dash and dash jumping is not able to be done in remaster so it will always be the slower run

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum Год назад +2

    Cryptocurrency is fucking stupid: episode 232

  • @serval0079
    @serval0079 Год назад +4

    classic crypto L

  • @HonkeyKongLive
    @HonkeyKongLive Год назад +3

    And here we see again why crypto is a joke lmao

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Год назад +12

    Coinbro not being a complete loser challenge
    Status: impossible
    The only good news to this story is jack losing a bunch of money.

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 Год назад

      @@StopSomething no he wont lmao

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 Год назад

      @@StopSomething Do you know what a Beanie Baby is

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 Год назад

      @@StopSomething That's classified

  • @SaltpeterTaffy
    @SaltpeterTaffy Год назад +4

    Every time you use the System Shock 2 music it's a total distraction because of how much I love that game, lol.

  • @averageboiii
    @averageboiii Год назад +3

    T3 has had discord since 2016

    • @zerorig
      @zerorig Год назад +1

      @@TRR010 he didn't seem to be aware of the bounty or active on the discord discussing it.
      that would be the most important thing to the overall story, because it might have been different if he was.

  • @Monado.
    @Monado. Год назад +9

    Been really into Metroid Prime over the last few weeks from doing Multiworld Randomizers to now the Remaster being out. Learned something really cool today and didn't realize there were bounties surrounding this game. Thanks for the great video, Doc :)

  • @PJBgamer
    @PJBgamer Год назад +4

    The moral of the story: don't use cryptocurrency.
    With that out of the way, I shoutouts to the runners who spent so much time and effort to get new records. They're awesome.

  • @ManillaHeep
    @ManillaHeep Год назад

    Nice video. Those gameplay montages with the music were sick!

  • @elzar5987
    @elzar5987 Год назад +4

    I'm not a metroid or speedrunning fan.
    Yet you kept me engaged throughout the full run of the video. Great stuff keep doing what you're doing

  • @ShuriBear
    @ShuriBear Год назад +1

    Idk how you get this much experience each time Doc, but every new vids editing is next level

  • @SleepLIVEYT
    @SleepLIVEYT Год назад +2

    Absolute banger video!

  • @BigBossJelly
    @BigBossJelly Год назад +1

    I'll add this to my ever growing list of why Crypto Bros should never be trusted.

  • @mac9365
    @mac9365 Год назад +5

    We should send this vid to like Moist Critikal and see if he will payout the winners

  • @arabidllama
    @arabidllama Год назад +1

    Your hidden messages aren't going to trick me into posting a comment!

  • @edermachado2844
    @edermachado2844 Год назад +3

    I saw it, so I'm saying hi!

  • @xwater
    @xwater Год назад +2

    Hi i saw it

  • @t5k313
    @t5k313 Год назад +1

    mfw gamer plays out of they mind 🤯

  • @ErikSeastead
    @ErikSeastead Год назад +5

    Doc I love you for posting high effort content like this

  • @kingk3245
    @kingk3245 Год назад +3

    Sorry honey i can't pay the mortgage this month i promised some gamers thousands of dollars in prize money for playing games good lol. Yeah not suprising all be it scummy

  • @NicoleMay316
    @NicoleMay316 Год назад +1

    Moral of the story? Never trust crypto bros

  • @personwritingthings
    @personwritingthings Год назад +2

    Hell yeaaaah I hope Remastered breathes new life into MP-related content, I've watched every metroid prime video on youtube lol

  • @foxxbaker
    @foxxbaker Год назад +2

    Thank you for naming the songs, some of these I’ve been looking for months

  • @kaiosekka
    @kaiosekka Год назад +12

    yo this was a banger of a vid. real shame on the bounty but great to see a community pushing their game to its limits and oob x)

  • @mattsbroadcasting
    @mattsbroadcasting Год назад +1

    @DoctorSwellman, I love your videos and the way you present them, going over different points, important factors, history, etc. Really, really enjoyable content you make.

  • @toblerone1729
    @toblerone1729 Год назад +5

    I mean...payments in cryptocurrencies are as fishy as they can get, and the username doesn't help the case 🤷‍♂️

  • @rjsmangitruns
    @rjsmangitruns Год назад +3

    Sick video. Massive Big Gamer Energy

  • @LimeCultivist
    @LimeCultivist Год назад +1

    hi if you see this

  • @mcsweatshop
    @mcsweatshop Год назад +1

    Great vid. Subbed

  • @blackshard641
    @blackshard641 Год назад +1

    Jack the Ripoff

  • @codahighland
    @codahighland Год назад

    Dang, Jack never seemed like the type before.

  • @DerDarak
    @DerDarak Год назад +1

    Hi if you see this :)

  • @Arexion5293
    @Arexion5293 Год назад +1

    Huh, System Shock 2 music does fit Metroid pretty well, as long as it is used for a more action focused moment.
    And then Beelzebub from SMT 3? Man this is a treat!

  • @LilacMonarch
    @LilacMonarch Год назад

    So he set aside the $4k worth of bitcoin but then couldn't pay it when the time came because it wasn't even worth $4k anymore. Can't say I'm surprised, but back when the challenges first went up the pitfalls of crypto weren't so well known i guess

  • @Thebdippy
    @Thebdippy Год назад +1

    Hmm yes this fellow calling himself "jack the rigger" is certainly trustworthy

  • @Steph1
    @Steph1 15 дней назад

    Why would you need more time for 21% than for 100%?
    Surely that other 79% take at least zero minutes to get? 😅

  • @Akuretaki_Nikolay
    @Akuretaki_Nikolay Год назад +1

    gg

  • @SohakmetGameplay
    @SohakmetGameplay Год назад

    So some random dude comes into the scene and issues challenges with 1000usd payout? And people believed it?

  • @kabojio2755
    @kabojio2755 Год назад +1

    Safe to assume his PayPal err "paypall" option would've been funded by BTC he sold off?
    PayPal or BTC 0:56
    BTC funds 10:09

  • @rhtj8
    @rhtj8 Год назад +1

    hi :)

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade Год назад +1

    I'm just starting the vid and reading the comments, but bounties like this need to be put in escrow somehow.

  • @marcoxavyer
    @marcoxavyer Год назад +1

    One day my music will work and I swear to all the Metroid community I will pay those amazing speedrunners

  • @VideoGamesRus100
    @VideoGamesRus100 Год назад +1

    hi

  • @kevintyrrell7409
    @kevintyrrell7409 6 месяцев назад

    Solution: bounties should be paid into a holding immediately where its kept there by a 3rd party company. Easier said than done but that will certainly solve this in the future.

  • @BradTheDead
    @BradTheDead Год назад +1

    This guy was never going to pay out at all, bitcoin crashing or not.

  • @yurigagarine6998
    @yurigagarine6998 Год назад

    Dude be like: "thanks for the runs! Btw there's actually no prize. Later virgins!"

  • @roysourboy4380
    @roysourboy4380 Год назад

    yo KSI DOCTOR XD Royboy here WAVE RACE !!!! just wanted to say SUP DOOD !!! :) Kay Ess EYE XD :) have a good one bro

  • @goblinbutler1313
    @goblinbutler1313 Год назад +3

    omg mind blown ily

  • @diamondkfc6183
    @diamondkfc6183 Год назад

    he shoulda just said "0.0167 bitcoin (~1k USD as of oct 2021)"

  • @zephyr8072
    @zephyr8072 Год назад

    Speed running.
    Never before in history have so many skills been applied to something so pointless.

  • @Pepesmall
    @Pepesmall 6 месяцев назад

    Maybe he died. Otherwise you're telling me that someone would go on the Internet and tell lies and i just don't believe that.. lol

  • @clairevoyanceSLA
    @clairevoyanceSLA Год назад +1

    cool to see a (comparatively niche to games like sm64 or minecraft) game like metroid prime getting some good speedrunning content, keep it up

  • @ThoraeJenkins
    @ThoraeJenkins Год назад

    Knowing nothing about this, as soon as I saw "or btc" i knew the end result was going to be no payouts lmao.

  • @Eichro
    @Eichro Год назад +1

    What's so difficult about a damageless run? I wouldn't be able to do it but doesn't sound that unfeasible for a speedrunner. Am I forgetting something important?
    (Hi)

    • @DoctorSwellman
      @DoctorSwellman  Год назад +2

      There’s several points in the game where taking damage is almost unavoidable. A lot of them are in the endgame, particularly in the Metroid Prime boss fights
      Try avoiding damage when the Prime Exoskeleton charges at you or fires its poison missiles, it’s super rough

  • @andr0sra-0h52
    @andr0sra-0h52 Год назад +1

    Every time you drop a new video the production level gets better and better SwellL

  • @harveysattic3918
    @harveysattic3918 Год назад +2

    Certified banger vid!

  • @ActuallySamuel6710
    @ActuallySamuel6710 Год назад +1

    Extremely well done video! Cool bit of Prime speedrunning lore to share with the internet.

  • @lonelyPorterCH
    @lonelyPorterCH Год назад

    Oh wow rhats cheap of jack...

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 Год назад +1

    Rest in power rigger, I hope you return one day

  • @Showsni
    @Showsni Год назад

    I guess jack really should have worded his bounties as "0.016 bitcoin" or whatever it was instead of "$1000". Then he could still pay them out (even though they'd be worth less).

  • @VideoOfMike
    @VideoOfMike Год назад

    Speeddemosarchive had bounty for metroid prime for sub 1 hour for over $100,000. but this was all like pre 2010.

  • @NickAndWolf
    @NickAndWolf Год назад +1

    Good use of SS2 OST

  • @dr4gonblitz
    @dr4gonblitz Год назад +1

    absolute banger as always. thanks so much for these videos

    • @DoctorSwellman
      @DoctorSwellman  Год назад

      I appreciate you, homie

    • @anonymoose2474
      @anonymoose2474 10 месяцев назад

      What profit is it to a man if he gains the world, but loses his own soul?

  • @jreigha
    @jreigha Год назад

    "This is called.... DASHING"
    >footage of Metroid Prime Essence boss fight< what a dash

  • @jobibones
    @jobibones Год назад

    Hi :)

  • @camwyn256
    @camwyn256 Год назад

    7:00 That music is bumping!
    Where's it from?

    • @DoctorSwellman
      @DoctorSwellman  Год назад +2

      System Shock 2, I also show the names of all the tracks on screen as they start playing and they're in the description as well!

    • @camwyn256
      @camwyn256 Год назад +1

      @@DoctorSwellman I'm so used to people not doing that, I didn't even notice. :)
      Thanks

  • @SPFLDAngler
    @SPFLDAngler Год назад

    Never trust someone on the internet who says they will GIVE you money.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 Год назад

    Crypto. Aw geez.

  • @TheBassicBassist
    @TheBassicBassist Год назад

    I thought you were going to end up saying that the community found out that the bounty provider had tragically died.

  • @elijahkeay3906
    @elijahkeay3906 Год назад

    Damn I feel like this video just like.. ended. Which makes sense considering the situation

  • @patrick4384
    @patrick4384 Год назад

    Might be a dumb question but do we even know if Jack is alive?

  • @gm08351
    @gm08351 Год назад

    who cares

  • @VinnytotheK
    @VinnytotheK Год назад +5

    Great video!
    *Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't played through the game though! Especially with the remaster out!*

  • @Mr_Spaghetti
    @Mr_Spaghetti Год назад +1

    I’m saying hi cuz I saw it

  • @theotherjared9824
    @theotherjared9824 Год назад +1

    What I find interesting about this is the legal aspect of the situation. There is no precedent for something like this. In theory, Jack clearly stating in writing that he will pay a certain amount of money should be binding. However, the nature of a bounty like this means there is no formal contract, meaning Jack may not be required to do anything. It might be a good thing for someone to sue Jack and straighten out these ambiguities.

    • @medea27
      @medea27 Год назад +1

      A couple of issues... first, it sounds like no-one knows Jack's real identity so it's going to be tough to prove any contractual obligations in court. Second - even if a few lines in an anonymous Discord _did_ qualify as a "written agreement", Jack did give himself a right of refusal as the final reviewer before paying anything out (it wasn't just the mod's validation). And third - litigation is _very expensive!_ It would cost more to sue Jack than the value of his bounties, so it's a net loss to you. You'd also deter other potential bounty-issuers who don't want legal hassles over a few hundred bucks to incentivise fellow gamers.
      At the end of the day, it's not a formal competition but a good-faith promise which (like everything else on the internet) should be taken with a grain of salt. It sucks, but it's not a legal issue... a very different situation to Charlie/Critikal's bounties.

  • @underthepale
    @underthepale Год назад +1

    hi

  • @D_Winds
    @D_Winds Год назад +2

    We do this for the glory, not for the money.

  • @xamus-wn-6023
    @xamus-wn-6023 Год назад +1

    It's a boring explanation, but it's likely Jack doesn't actually have the money after BTC's dropping prices. I doubt he's doing this maliciously and doesn't know how to approach the community now.

  • @PiterLauchy
    @PiterLauchy Год назад +1

    Algorithm

  • @drowningin
    @drowningin Год назад

    Or he lost his job and couldn't pay and was embarrassed. Was along time of COVID, and crypto crash

  • @Arunnejiro
    @Arunnejiro Год назад +2

    4:23 I bet Ridley ventilated samus with his shaft