Ben Shapiro’s Shameful Defense of Genocide
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2024
- Ben Burgis and Matthew Whalan denounce (with facts and logic) everything disgusting about the Other Ben's opening statement to students at the University of Wisconsin.
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Ben Shapiro went from fighting against college students to fighting international law and the Geneva convention. Shit got real.
😂
"Presumably" does a lot of heavy lifting in Shapiro's speech.
Every. Single. Speech.
Besides being an smug, elitist snob with a puffed up sense of moral superiority, Ben just talks about things he doesn't really understand or know.
Him being Harvard-educated is crazy. He sounds like a 13 year old. “If you were locked in an open air prison, would you put a baby in an oven? Or maybe you would never put a baby in an oven” like what is this 😂😂😂 that’s his idea of a philosophical question
i have feeling harvard is not the high level university it is touted to be - they keep graduating stupid people - it is just a diploma mill for rich people
I don’t know when this speech was delivered, but the oven thing has been debunked for quite a while now. I doubt he cares, of course.
Well, he did brag about ignoring everything he learned at Harvard. But I’m shocked he even managed to graduate anyways. But I mean, look at Jordan Peterson. He argues insanely dumb, ignorant and invalidly all the time, and literally taught at major universities. Conservativism just mandates braindead rhetoric.
@@fromeveryting29 it’s the question of whether they are educated but they choose to lie and behave in a way that is appealing to their followers, or if they actually believe what they say. The former is worse for their character and the latter is worse for their intellect 😂
The reason he and others say “khamas” not Hamas is because “khamas” in Hebrew means ‘violence’
The irony is that Gaza or in Hebrew AZZA means strong place/city
And I just learned now per Google in Arabic, see the following:
"The name Gaza in Arabic means "strength," "treasures," or "stores". These terms all include the idea of strength. Treasures represent material power through their financial value, and stores carry within them power that can accommodate and store valuable items or things of great price.x
The brainwash-y way that he speaks is so irritating. “Such and such is goood. Such and such is baaad. Such and such is a gooood thing. Such and such is a BAD thing.” He really exhausts me
I've never heard anyone else so perfectly describe it before lmao
He literally just doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s almost sad.
He works for their government. He knows exactly what lies he is telling.
Everyone but Ben and his inner circle are "disgusting" ... according to him.
🙄😒
@@shellyseymore6249 He’s a government employee.
I thought the putting babies in an oven thing was debunked.
I think people who use this rhetoric are doing so with an indifference to facts and view their audience as people who are not going to look into these claims.
Don’t you guys just get tired of this stuff? The sweeping statements, claims, rhetoric, bad or non-existent research, pseudo-intellectualism, straight out bullshit!
Yes, I find Shapiros vile nonsense tiring - but it’s necessary to take it apart. I wouldn’t call it pseudo-intellectualism though, more anti intellectualism.
@@kilgoretrout413 yeah, that’s better.
@@JamesWilson-ek7ko It's annoying and often repetitive but at the end of the day, not challenging it doesn't work either. I certainly think debating them directly is a waste of time (with all due respect to Dr. Burgis who clearly doesn't agree) but pulling their stupid "Arguments" apart analytically are necessary to stop impressionable people from falling down the fascist pipeline.
God! This really awful. He is really awful. Spending my time refuting him would be stressful and depressing.
Damn, it's crazy that this guy is their standard-bearer. I'm almost 9 minutes in and the whole thing is just incredibly dumb.
William F Buckley must be rolling over in his grave.(I mean, even more than he was already at the fact that a j.o.o has become the main intellectual voice of the conservative movement.)
buckley would have been on israels side
@@lesweizman388 Yeah, we know.
Does Ben think that colonization and exploitation exist? Because like if he doesn't I have lot of questions for him about history.
All they ever do is accuse their enemies of that which they are doing.
Every single time.
shapiro is such a stooge -
So no one in the audience calls him out on his straight up lies and bs..
Basically, Ben thinks people should know that they’re conquered and get with program.
he sounds like two balloons doin it
For someone who believes that the west has been a good influence on other nations not only as a bringer of prosperity but as a source of the spread western ways across the world through cultural exchange, Ben seems very skeptical of the idea that interactions between nations can have a sizable impact on how that nation tends to think or act in response unless those changes are being directly and explicitly induced in them by force. Almost as though he thinks the main source of westernization has been through relations of western colonial dominance and is completely fine with that.
Edit: On a side note, both Ben's (Shapiro and Burgis) seem to falsely think all moral relativists are agent moral relativists when, even though that is one variety of moral relativism, most moral relativists today would be more accurately classified as appraiser relativists.
It's hard to think of anything more outside of the Overton Window than supporting jen-oh-side.
Loved it! Your guest was great! He had some great observations on what Shapiro said. Things I didn’t think of.
Shapiro should go work as door to door salesman, he would earn more money.
He’s such a hysterical baby.
what is that thing on his head - it looks dumb
Just replace Hamas with Jews and replace Jews with Palestinians and Shitpiro made a pretty good speech.
Xkhxkhamas
I had to skip or mute the Shapiro parts to get through this. Did I miss anything (worth hearing)?
I'm only one minute in to his speech and I'm going to probably have to watch this later because I'm driving and listening to it and I almost have to open a word document and start typing refutations because that's the next step of how I'm going to have to cope with these sorts of lies said in the name of my religion of Judaism. I am at a loss of words when I almost have to measure and censor myself so that I don't come across as being whatever epithets that would be used on me or that I'm defending X y or Z on the Palestinian side but even the macro view of religion and politics and him having studied at Harvard, and Harvard law I believe, I have to believe he understands the nuances of bombastic speech and allegories and metaphors. And what have you? I'm just, I'm doing it now. I am being sintorious, self censorious out of fear, I can't make sense of things, I usually can complete a sentence without pause and with the fluency and oratory Prose or prowess or whatever the word is. Word is I don't want to sound cringe but I find myself speechless... Even in using voice dictation while I'm driving... I'm scatter brained right now... I just can't bear to bring myself to even understand the framework from which he operates because it is not a framework. It is a house made of Jenga blocks. Know he not of thus? I probably just butchered that sentence. I'm losing my mind. I just I just can't. It's beyond belief. It's beyond disbelief. It's soul crushing and yet soulless and add whatever words you can find in my thesaurus to express my.... I don't even know what to say. Hopefully I circle back and watch the rest of this and give my take but my mental health. And what have you not with disregards to the genocide in Gaza on a personal and professional level, just it's it's too much. But we have to be strong. Jews Muslims Christians humanity that's that's all I have for now
No State, No Genocide.
No private property, no need for states to violently enforce dispossession
@@janosmarothy5409 Well I can see two possible objections. Take 'the commons', the unowned farmland worked by subsistence level farmers in the embryonic phase of the industrial revolution. The wily bourgeoise used the state to kick such farmers off the commons so they would have no choice but to move to the urban industrial factories struggling to attract workers. This strategy was carried out by way of the Inclosure Acts. If subsistence level farmers had instead held title to the land they cultivated they could not have been so easily forced into the industrial barracks system. Or take immigration. The state functions to replace market control of immigration with monopoly government control. Marxists rightly make the point that state controlled immigration allows the bourgeoise to bring in armies of 'illegals', immigrants whose individual rights are stripped off because the state has monopoly control of both security and justice. In a free market society workers are free to move to where wages are highest. No state monopoly justice system threat of deportation can be held over them to prevent them from unionizing, demanding better working conditions, higher pay, and so on.
conceptually i am highly in favor of listening to adversaries.
constitutionally, it's so physically rough to this high-frequency screechy motormouth.
how does one beef up one's eardrums for this?
Please welcome Tommy Chong Spicoli.
I don't know how you guys and gals can wade through all the reactionary tripe on an almost daily basis... I grew up listening to this kind of tripe during the end of the Cold War and was tired of it all by the late 80's.
He's just making up a lot of these accusations.
dishonest title
its not genocide by any definition
so attacking ben, claiming he is defending genocide is moot
Except it is, by the very definition, a genocide. Maybe you should do a little reading.
It actually meets all the definitions. Do you understand the meaning of the word. Have you read the definition?
Oh look, it's a reactionary troll who doesn't read and lives in a bubble.
There are some reasonable arguments against calling it genocide. However, it is still a mass murder, and it is still being carried out by a settler-colonial regime that would like to commit genocide.
The special constructions he uses - like "the west," a phrase that could mean almost anything to anyone - are amazing in their capacity to allow him to weasel around and define good as good and bad as bad in an endless loop
Yes! They justify one element of culture by way of saying that the culture of which it is a constituent needs to be protected. Except there is no static culture to which they belong - anyone doubting that can look at who they have running for the presidency. Culture’s are just stories, and they change every single day. It’s all just a Trojan horse for institutionalized advantages disadvantages based on whatever prejudices the people with the most money at the time have, which are just those who were most benefited from the previous iteration of this process in the generation prior. It’s a political party that has been built almost exclusively on lies at this point.