A couple of quick follow-up points from the video. 1. It seems the unit has gone off-sale online but they can be found in-store for £79.99 while stocks last (as of 1/1/21) 2. I do constantly refer to the drill as a 'bench drill' rather than a drill press. Bench drill is what both Scheppach and Bosch refer to this type of machine as and, as I said in the video, the drill mechanism is more similar to a hand-drill than a traditional drill press where the motor is stationary and the quill is moved up and down. 3. The review is a positive one. It's faults do not affect the results when drilling into wood and soft metals but and for £129 I would be put up with the quirky design and rough plasticky appearance. This isn't a precision engineering drill by any stretch of the imagination. The gearbox noise is unfortunate. There is more to come on the subject of drills and drill presses so stay tuned. A couple of shorter videos to come in the meantime. Happy New Year.
In my view keep your simple machines as simple as possible. It is a drill press no need for the digital screen and fancy gears that will break after a couple of years. People confuse real needs with useless features that are added just to increase the price. A strong motor and solid steady base is all I need in a drill press.
The gearbox, despite being noisy, has a strong point (for steel), that is, it does not allow rotation to be blocked, unlike the belt, which instead can slip, especially since the engine, with its 710 watts, is very powerful. However, predictably the gears of the gearbox work with gear grease, but in the future it may be that the gearbox will be made in an oil bath, so the gearbox will be less noisy and perhaps more durable. /// The electronic speed regulation seems to be carried out via a mosfet, since the motor is perhaps brushed and perhaps, if it had been an induction motor, with the regulation via inverter it would have been possible to have a greater speed range. /// One thing that I don't like and that few people notice is the base made of aluminium, rather than cast iron, since it doesn't give a sensation of robustness or flatness and in any case the aluminum causes the piece to stick, so it is difficult to position, while cast iron would allow better movement. /// The measurement of the drilling depth complete with zeroing is an uncommon strong point. /// The two-arm descent ring I think is an impractical marketing gimmick... it should be three-armed and in any case if it didn't have so many oddities in the design it would be better. In general it seems like a drill more suitable for wood than for steel, also because placing the steel on the aluminum base would quickly ruin the base.
Awesome review, clear, simple, all i needed to know about the machine. You're doing a far better job than al the so-called reviewers I have seen elsewhere. Thanks.
At last a reviewer that actually uses the tools on a day to day basis.. very clear and precise and answered the questions I had. Which were build quality and will it do the job it's intended for.. brilliant..
Great review. Straight to the point and shows what you want to see. I cannot understand why there are not more types of drill like this about. As someone mentioned, Makita where are you? Standard bench drills are identical to ones made over 100 years ago. When you think of the tech in a modern handrill these days, reverse and ultra low revs, then placing that vertically for a bench drill is a total no brainer. There is only this or the bosch on the market, neither are really top grade compared to what they could be.
Great video (hence it shows up everywhere when searching for this drill). One improvement, perhaps you could add in the description: measure the run-out at the tip where the item would be contacted, rather than at the base of the shaft near the chuck. That could be done with a solid reference rod rather than with a used drill bit.
Thanks for the suggestion. Of course, if I had a reference rod of any sort then that would have been my preference for testing the runout. The test was representative of the the precision of the drill generally. With longer bits, In hindsight, it would have been better perhaps to have made a comparison with my Firm FTB-13 which had practically no run-out when measured in the same way. And then go on to explain why I'm still going forward with the Sheppach. All a bit irrelevent now as I've moved on to the Bosch PDB-40 which is set-up for cabinet doors, and the Firm drill press has been re-instated.
Hi Karl. I think you nailed it being a hand drill with a built in stand. It's a great tool for the small workshop and a big upgrade being variable speed. The ability to drill accurate vertical holes is a must for ease of assembly and accurate repetition work. Just like the old Black and Decker hand drill in a drill stand but tweaked and with being light you can take the drill to the work. Tony
I bought this drill back in April, I had for years been using a cheep’ish pillar drill which every time I used a hole saw or forstner bit it would stall the drill, really frustrating, I’m only a DIY’er so didn’t want lay out on a big expensive pillar drill so when Aldi started selling the scheppach I thought I would take a punt, I have to be honest I find it a very capable tool and it’s accuracy is more than good enough for me. Brilliant channel and content by the way 👍
Thank-you Philip. You can't complain for the price. I've been using it for shelf pin and door hinges along with jig making and it's been a great tool since I got it in early November. Next week I have a related video which you might be interested in. I won't give too much away but as you're subscribed be sure to check back.
Good review Karl. Interesting design from Scheppach. That rotating arms look's like straight out of Star Trek 😀. That thought process on changing the belt configuration for speed, on the older model drill press is spot on. I just stick with the medium speed for both wood and metal.
Yes those arms aren't really for my taste and actually they're really quite awkward to use. Cut that moan out of the vid since overall I like the machine. I do try to use the right speeds but its just one more thing to adjust. This isn't the end of the story though - I've a follow-up video I'm editing where I look at this machine again. Stay tuned.
Hi Norman thanks. There's more to come on this subject so stay tuned. The Bosch was discounted to £179 in the Amazon black friday and cyber monday sales so I imagine there are many more out there with equally happy users.
I've had two of these - or at least almost identical, and Ferrex branded - in Australia. Both have failed. I kept the first one for 'handy spares' in case needed for the second. In each case the failure is electronic, and occurred running at low speed using a large-ish forstner bit (I was gentle, honest!) I noted that at low speeds the motor would 'hunt' - rev up and down a little, which is a sign of poor loop control. Anyway, unable to find a circuit schematic to begin probing, I bought in a regular motor controller unit and wired that directly to the motor, bypassing all internal controls. And it works after a fashion. But the motor is low on torque and slows quite readily under load. Usually the control loop compensates for this by increasing input current, but in this case of course I've broken the loop by introducing an external controller. Apart from this - rather catastrophic! - issue, both drills were great while they worked and much better suited to my needs than a regular drill press. I'm still playing with the current set up - maybe it will do if I don't work it TOO hard?
Mine's been okay in-spite of having taken it apart for a video that I didn't end-up making. Having stripped it down I did find the quality of the components to be on the cheap side. Anyway, these days it does one job and one job only - holes for cup hinges.
Большое спасибо! Купил тоже такой себе. Вы правы 90% отверстий нужно сверлить вертикально. И для этой работы станок подойдёт идеально. Тоже постараюсь сделать видео обзор как станок ко мне приедет.
Thanks for the test, I'll look for something else. Want to do more precise work and that runout when it's new will only get worse over time and .2 is already a bit much to begin with for me.
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience with the new drill press. I went out about nine months ago and purchased the Lidl Parkside version with the gears. It was down to an absolute bargain £59 or was it £49? Anyway, despite all the mixed reviews about how wobbly and noisy it was, I found that there was very little in the way of wobble and that the resulting holes were plumb and accurate. Tbh, I never really had issues with hand held drilling, but figured that, as I had the space, and couldn't grumble about the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add a new toy to my workshop. I did notice a version of the drill press you review here - both in green and blue, but thought they looked a little bit too lightweight and flimsy. I did check out the Bosch version, but hey, at that kind of money... Like most woodworkers, I spend a lot more of my life sanding than drilling, so I spent the cash on the excellent Bosch orbital sander. I know, £350 on a sander, but trust me: with the vibration damping and excellent dust extraction, it is worth every penny. Where the drill press comes into its own, is where you find yourself using larger drill bits and hole cutters. Many a time, I've taken a crack in the jaw whilst drilling out a cable tidy onsite. Ouch!
I think you've got it spot on. As woodworkers we need to sensibly decide where to invest our money for maximum effect and enjoyment. I have done roughly the same as you. This drill does what I need and then I've decided to invest in the Mirka Deros sander as I use a sander for a couple of hours on every project I do and the drill press only occasionally.
Hi Karl, I really enjoyed your thoughtful and thorough presentation of this drill. I bought the Bosch version when I saw & learned about it on Amazon a few years ago. I have only a 12 x 8’ workshop and this drill fitted my requirements perfectly. The belt changing on other drills was a definite no no. I bought a large cast iron drill vice for it too. I too don’t like the noise even from the Bosch so I hang an earbud type ear protector from it to make it easily accessible when I need to use the drill. That’s the only downside to it for me. I’ve got used to the chuck and printed helpful arrow labels so I can turn it the right way first time. It’s a drill I really like to use actually and the results are fine. I also prefer the softer Bosch green to the harsh blue! Keep up the good work. You must be enjoying it because you do it so well.
Hi Christian. There's more to come on the subject in the coming weeks. Actually - I've got a different chuck in the drill now which I'm much happier with. Thanks for the comment on the videos. I really enjoy all the attention my videos get and the coming-up with the ideas to go into the videos. It's the bit in the middle - filming and editing - that I still find quite challenging, but in a good way. I just wish I had more time to spend doing it.
Great review! Really like the features at that price point, I think I would like one of those, I have been considering one for a while. Digital displays on a bench press whatever next. Hastily clicked the link and nothing left lol. I snoozed I loozed. I would happily live with that terrible noise for the amount I would use it though. Otherwise it would be a no no. Never get to an Aldi so will have to keep my ear to the ground. First review of 2021 Happy New Year to you and yours.
Ah, yes. To be honest I spent rather too much time making my mind-up as whether I liked it or not. Some of the footage was shot in November having unboxed it. Anyway, stay tuned for the next exciting episode because we're not done with drills and drill presses yet. Anyway same to you Happy New Year.
Good lad. Start with the runout. Tbh 0.2mm would do my crust, but I'd lay money that the Bosch isn't any better from what I've seen. Where's the runout coming from? The chuck, the bearings or both? It'd be interesting to see the inner workings of this and to know if that runout coud be improved by simply swapping in a decent bearing or two like you can with a standard drill press, or if you can change the chuck for a better one. You're right about that stupid wheel on the Bosch. One thing I don't get about these bench drills is why are they all so damned noisy? I'm sure if Makita got into the game it'd be whisper quiet with no runout either.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. I do have the. Bosch machine too for a comparison vid and the runout on that is around 0.8mm. I've taken the Sheppach apart and there are two problems in my view and you've mentioned them both. The bearings are cheap and generic. The Chuck too is generic and even the manufacturer doesnt spec the runout below 0.2mm. Bosch is marginally quieter but better built. The model I have has a few differences to some I've seen reviewed. Thanks for the comment.
I have this same model and now prefer it to my _expensive_ large Delta brand bench pillar drill like yours (mit belt adjuster :-) . I have the Scheppach mounted on a fixed-height MDF 'box' which overcomes the working at eye height issue. Being able to easily change speed is a godsend, the laser needed some gynaecological adjustment and I'd like to replace the LED light with something from the side. The drill height mechanical stop is the best I've ever used and being able to electronically adjust that height as well is fabulous. Just buy one if you can, you won't regret it. Only downside is the awful rattling fit handle - fixed with some shims :-)
Good review Karl. I bought the Ferrex (Aldi) pillar drill in late 2019, but wasn’t happy with the quill play on it, so eventually replaced it with one from Rutlands which has been much better value for money. So much so, that I’ve also got their bandsaw now 👍.
I have their benchtop mortiser which I found to be a great bit of kit. I'm really quite impressed by their Router Table offerings recently just a bit too late for my router table purchase last year.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Yes, I'll definitely be checking them out for future purchases. Bye the way Karl, will there be any 3D printing videos coming up this year, as I've now got one, (Creality Ender 3 v2), and have been able to design & print a few workshop accessories which has been great fun.
@@idlersdream826 That's a good question and at the moment probably the most frequently asked one at the moment as I've got quite the reputation for 3D printing that sell well. So yes, if there's demand I'll think about how give my perspective on 3D printing. Marius Hornberger did a great 'is 3D printing worth it in the workshop video' so may be something like that. If you want a quick tip about how to learn fast - find something that you need multiple quantities of and try to improve the quality and optimise your print time every time you print one. You will learn about tweaking settings in your slicer (I use PrusaSlicer which is great and has an Ender profile) and also how to design better features. For me it was assortment boxes for the workshop and the jigs when I got going with them. If you focus on cosmetic appearance and getting accurate dimensions for your things you'll enjoy the results so much more.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Thanks Karl, I’ve already purchased your Festool waste side jigs, they’re great 👍. So far, in learning Fusion 360, I’ve designed my own M6 & M8 star knobs in 25mm & 40mm dia, and guide rail stops for the TS55, plus some paint dogs. I’m currently using Cura slicer and have been able to print multiple pieces, sequentially, one at a time. I’ve been very impressed with the print quality of this machine. The next project, now that it’s no longer on the kitchen table, but in my loft room, is to set up a Raspberry Pi with camera & OctoPrint for remote monitoring/connection.
Incredibly disappointing that both Scheppach and Bosch didn't do with a variable inverter and an AC motor. I have that for my micro lathe and it is nearly silent, with amazing torque at low speeds.
Thank you, I’ve been watching the Bosch reviews, thinking of buying one before I return to England - interesting comparison, but I’m inclined to think you get what you pay for?
Kathryn, Since making this video I now have the Bosch machine and it's a far more refined machine. The castings are crisp and clean, the plastic is better quality, the chuck is better quality, and it's a smoother machine too. My grown-up son has the Sheppach now and it suits his needs; my Bosch is the workshop workhorse.
Got 60 quid you've got incredible value for money in my opinion. The RRP for these machines is £179 normally and it's more refined cousin, the BOSCH BDP 40 is retailing at £325 right now.
It's unexpensive, and we can't expect perfect job. If you don't repair watches it's very good for a price. Mine is not loud at all, but laser is inaccurate. It's maybe 1,5 mm off axis. Is there possibillity to calibrate it, even if I have to open chasis?
thing is, i (and most people) would want that low rpm to drill for example steel with a larger bit to keep surface speed ideal... and i am going to go out on a limb and say it just has not got any torque at that low rpm.... but i wish this was tested.
Drilling into steel isn't a use case for me, but fair point I didn't take the test as far as I could have. Having had the machine a while, I'm not sure it's really a metalwork drill press
I’m sure that with care it would be fine. So long as you’ve punched your mark and spotted, drilling a accurate hole in mild steel should be fine. As for bleed nipples, no idea.
Thank you for showing , I was about to buy one, but the noise of the gears and motor would drive me nuts A Shame tho as it looks a quirky device with some nice features
I'm not sure it's going to be suitable for mild steel. I've had acceptable results in mild steel but I've had to take it slowly in material which has had a good centre punch marking the hole. But others have commented about it wandering about and drilling inaccurate holes.
That's a shame. To be honest, I do wonder about the quality control out the factory and whether the discount supermarkets are actually monitoring returns and demanding more.
It was fine while I had it and it now lives in my son’s workshop where it drills holes in PCBs. The biggest complaint was always the noise levels. I’m now between drill presses at the moment.
It's the overall design is the same. But it really is not a copy. I've since replaced this machine with the Bosch bought new in January. As far as I can tell (and I've had both apart) none of the components are the same - similar but the quality is lower in the sheppach (built to a price). The run-out on the bosch I have is negligible compared to the scheppach. The bosch is quieter, and soft-start speed controller, has a way better barings and chuck. All the castings on the bosch are finished properly with all the sprues and flashing removed (no sharp parts), the plastic for the housing is better quality. The base is wider and the unit more stable. There will be a follow-up video to this one now I've had time with both. Yes, if you in the market for a budget drill then this would be fine if you can live with its bad points. But the Bosch version is much better value for money.
Definately not this one. The old Firm drill press you see me stand next too is pretty good for metalwork. I bought it from a guy who makes model steam railway engines and he was sorry to see it go. A good second hard press similar to that would probably be okay.
Actually I just saw a video review of the Bosch and unfortunately it looks like this geared design is inherently noisy. Looks like a traditional drill press for me. No idea where to start though.
Stay tuned as I have the Bosch machine too and a side-by-side comparison is coming. Without coming to a conclusion before I get all the filming done, one of the most obvious things about tool designs is that it is possible to come up with an adequate design and then make it more cheaply. Thinking of it as a mounted hand drill is useful.
There's an though here where I review the FERM drill press I have. I was clueless about what made a good machine when I bought it a few years ago but all its faults has me looking at the Bosch/Sheppach machines with hopeful optimism.
You're absolutely right. Although it should be noted that Aldi sell these machines well below the RRP of £179.00 and Bosch will often take £100 off their model during black-friday and pre-christmas sales. But if you judge solely on the hole left in a piece of timber, then there's really nothing in it between them. There's more to come on the subject so stay tuned.
Hi Graham - In all fairness it cuts pretty straight and accurate holes. But certainly the quality of the case is poor and, like I said in the video, the finish to the cast aluminium parts is a bit rough. You can see where Scheppach have made the unit to a price. I did tear-down the machine and have looked in detail at some of the components and simple things, like bearings, are cheap chinese commodity parts. The chuck is the same a generic version of the Rohm chuck found on the Bosch drill. But at £129 it does, I think, stack-up well against more traditional bench-top drill presses at that price point. None of which are precision or quality items in my view. But thanks for the comment. Keep watching I've more to say on this in a future video.
Bosch PBD-40 wobbles on column itself, this is not adjustable as there are not screw for adjustment WHY. Why any Cheap drill stand has adjustment on the column with screws and drill machine for 340EUR does not, BOSCH are idiots or think that we are. The chuck is OK but it has wobbly bearing too.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Your welcome, the chuck needle bearing needs to be replaced with brass bushing then play of the chuck goes away. However how to solve the wobble of drill itself I do not know, except drill bolts of 8mm fine thread into the aluminum casting place steel nut inside with expoxy fill. Bolts must be brass. The inside if the aluminum sleeve must be enveloped with thin brass sheet too.
I know it's nuts the price now. I was speaking to someone in my Aldi and the larger tools are taking longer to shift and they've been steadily marking the down since November.
Yes absolutely you can. I would say that drill stands in the £30 - £100 range in the UK are not always as accurate or smooth to use. To be honest I would say this machine would be comparable to that sort of set-up.
Sadly its a great looking drill, but low quality. Have had several problems, and now after a couple of uses uts wobbly, the chuck is alsaw hard to lock. Do not recomend it
The machine you see in the video has held up fairly well. However, the chuck did fail and I had to fit a replacement. It's the noise that bothers me though and I would say the machine is built to a price and not good quality.
I bought this drill from Aldi U.K. unfortunately it was soo in accurate trying to drill 3mm aluminium sheet with 3.5 drill bit it was nearly 1/2 hole diameter out of centre mark. Aldi were brilliant gave full refund no quiver. Really disappointed as the concept of this drilling machine ticked so many boxes, but a drilling machine that does not drill with a measured accuracy is not acceptable for diy and model making projects .
It's still running fine - although very noisy still. I did move this on to my son's workshop and he's pretty happy with it for guitar building. But I really did get to hate the noise.
Compared to reviews of earlier models 0.2mm is better than I was expecting. I was being honest when I said for what I need it's good enough, but the design is flawed.
@@ian1352 No but it shocked me that it's brand new and has that much run out, bin it off, and invest in a proper one 😉 I have one the same was thinking of new bearings but you vid has put me off doing it now good luck Ian.
A couple of quick follow-up points from the video.
1. It seems the unit has gone off-sale online but they can be found in-store for £79.99 while stocks last (as of 1/1/21)
2. I do constantly refer to the drill as a 'bench drill' rather than a drill press. Bench drill is what both Scheppach and Bosch refer to this type of machine as and, as I said in the video, the drill mechanism is more similar to a hand-drill than a traditional drill press where the motor is stationary and the quill is moved up and down.
3. The review is a positive one. It's faults do not affect the results when drilling into wood and soft metals but and for £129 I would be put up with the quirky design and rough plasticky appearance. This isn't a precision engineering drill by any stretch of the imagination. The gearbox noise is unfortunate.
There is more to come on the subject of drills and drill presses so stay tuned. A couple of shorter videos to come in the meantime. Happy New Year.
I got lucky and got one yesterday for £79.99, I'm more than happy with it even with its flaws.
Great review.
Thanks Elliot. You did well as my ALDI had run-out a few weeks ago. Screwfix have them at £279 at the moment.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop I bought one today in my local Aldi store...£49.99. 👍
In my view keep your simple machines as simple as possible. It is a drill press no need for the digital screen and fancy gears that will break after a couple of years. People confuse real needs with useless features that are added just to increase the price.
A strong motor and solid steady base is all I need in a drill press.
My Ferm drill press was far from simple. I grew tired of belts and vague depth stops. A personal thing I guess but I’m still happy with the machine.
The gearbox, despite being noisy, has a strong point (for steel), that is, it does not allow rotation to be blocked, unlike the belt, which instead can slip, especially since the engine, with its 710 watts, is very powerful. However, predictably the gears of the gearbox work with gear grease, but in the future it may be that the gearbox will be made in an oil bath, so the gearbox will be less noisy and perhaps more durable. /// The electronic speed regulation seems to be carried out via a mosfet, since the motor is perhaps brushed and perhaps, if it had been an induction motor, with the regulation via inverter it would have been possible to have a greater speed range. /// One thing that I don't like and that few people notice is the base made of aluminium, rather than cast iron, since it doesn't give a sensation of robustness or flatness and in any case the aluminum causes the piece to stick, so it is difficult to position, while cast iron would allow better movement. /// The measurement of the drilling depth complete with zeroing is an uncommon strong point. /// The two-arm descent ring I think is an impractical marketing gimmick... it should be three-armed and in any case if it didn't have so many oddities in the design it would be better. In general it seems like a drill more suitable for wood than for steel, also because placing the steel on the aluminum base would quickly ruin the base.
I would agree that this is very much a woodworking drill. Thanks for your comment.
Awesome review, clear, simple, all i needed to know about the machine. You're doing a far better job than al the so-called reviewers I have seen elsewhere. Thanks.
You're welcome. And thank-you for the comment.
At last a reviewer that actually uses the tools on a day to day basis.. very clear and precise and answered the questions I had. Which were build quality and will it do the job it's intended for.. brilliant..
Thank-you for the comment Darren.
Excellent commentary, very professional & unbiased
Thank-you and I'm glad you liked it.
Great review. Straight to the point and shows what you want to see. I cannot understand why there are not more types of drill like this about. As someone mentioned, Makita where are you? Standard bench drills are identical to ones made over 100 years ago. When you think of the tech in a modern handrill these days, reverse and ultra low revs, then placing that vertically for a bench drill is a total no brainer. There is only this or the bosch on the market, neither are really top grade compared to what they could be.
Thanks for the comment. I agree completely
Great video (hence it shows up everywhere when searching for this drill). One improvement, perhaps you could add in the description: measure the run-out at the tip where the item would be contacted, rather than at the base of the shaft near the chuck. That could be done with a solid reference rod rather than with a used drill bit.
Thanks for the suggestion. Of course, if I had a reference rod of any sort then that would have been my preference for testing the runout. The test was representative of the the precision of the drill generally. With longer bits, In hindsight, it would have been better perhaps to have made a comparison with my Firm FTB-13 which had practically no run-out when measured in the same way. And then go on to explain why I'm still going forward with the Sheppach.
All a bit irrelevent now as I've moved on to the Bosch PDB-40 which is set-up for cabinet doors, and the Firm drill press has been re-instated.
Hi Karl. I think you nailed it being a hand drill with a built in stand. It's a great tool for the small workshop and a big upgrade
being variable speed. The ability to drill accurate vertical holes is a must for ease of assembly and accurate repetition work.
Just like the old Black and Decker hand drill in a drill stand but tweaked and with being light you can take the drill to the work. Tony
Thanks and it was the variable speed that really appealed to me.
I bought this drill back in April, I had for years been using a cheep’ish pillar drill which every time I used a hole saw or forstner bit it would stall the drill, really frustrating, I’m only a DIY’er so didn’t want lay out on a big expensive pillar drill so when Aldi started selling the scheppach I thought I would take a punt, I have to be honest I find it a very capable tool and it’s accuracy is more than good enough for me.
Brilliant channel and content by the way 👍
Thank-you Philip. You can't complain for the price. I've been using it for shelf pin and door hinges along with jig making and it's been a great tool since I got it in early November. Next week I have a related video which you might be interested in. I won't give too much away but as you're subscribed be sure to check back.
I was looking for this, thanks!
Glad I could help!
Distance from post to drill bit would be handy to know.
110mm
Good, useful review. Thanks
You're welcome.
Excellent and very professional presentation, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good review Karl. Interesting design from Scheppach. That rotating arms look's like straight out of Star Trek 😀. That thought process on changing the belt configuration for speed, on the older model drill press is spot on. I just stick with the medium speed for both wood and metal.
Yes those arms aren't really for my taste and actually they're really quite awkward to use. Cut that moan out of the vid since overall I like the machine. I do try to use the right speeds but its just one more thing to adjust. This isn't the end of the story though - I've a follow-up video I'm editing where I look at this machine again. Stay tuned.
Good review.👍 I have the Bosch version and perfectly happy with it.😉 Happy New Year. 💥
Hi Norman thanks. There's more to come on this subject so stay tuned. The Bosch was discounted to £179 in the Amazon black friday and cyber monday sales so I imagine there are many more out there with equally happy users.
I've had two of these - or at least almost identical, and Ferrex branded - in Australia. Both have failed. I kept the first one for 'handy spares' in case needed for the second. In each case the failure is electronic, and occurred running at low speed using a large-ish forstner bit (I was gentle, honest!) I noted that at low speeds the motor would 'hunt' - rev up and down a little, which is a sign of poor loop control.
Anyway, unable to find a circuit schematic to begin probing, I bought in a regular motor controller unit and wired that directly to the motor, bypassing all internal controls. And it works after a fashion. But the motor is low on torque and slows quite readily under load. Usually the control loop compensates for this by increasing input current, but in this case of course I've broken the loop by introducing an external controller.
Apart from this - rather catastrophic! - issue, both drills were great while they worked and much better suited to my needs than a regular drill press. I'm still playing with the current set up - maybe it will do if I don't work it TOO hard?
Mine's been okay in-spite of having taken it apart for a video that I didn't end-up making. Having stripped it down I did find the quality of the components to be on the cheap side. Anyway, these days it does one job and one job only - holes for cup hinges.
Большое спасибо! Купил тоже такой себе. Вы правы 90% отверстий нужно сверлить вертикально. И для этой работы станок подойдёт идеально. Тоже постараюсь сделать видео обзор как станок ко мне приедет.
Спасибо за ваш комментарий.
Thanks for the test, I'll look for something else. Want to do more precise work and that runout when it's new will only get worse over time and .2 is already a bit much to begin with for me.
Good luck with your search.
Excellent review. Very informative. Thanks.
You're welcome.
Hi, thanks for sharing your experience with the new drill press. I went out about nine months ago and purchased the Lidl Parkside version with the gears. It was down to an absolute bargain £59 or was it £49? Anyway, despite all the mixed reviews about how wobbly and noisy it was, I found that there was very little in the way of wobble and that the resulting holes were plumb and accurate.
Tbh, I never really had issues with hand held drilling, but figured that, as I had the space, and couldn't grumble about the cost, it wouldn't hurt to add a new toy to my workshop. I did notice a version of the drill press you review here - both in green and blue, but thought they looked a little bit too lightweight and flimsy. I did check out the Bosch version, but hey, at that kind of money...
Like most woodworkers, I spend a lot more of my life sanding than drilling, so I spent the cash on the excellent Bosch orbital sander. I know, £350 on a sander, but trust me: with the vibration damping and excellent dust extraction, it is worth every penny.
Where the drill press comes into its own, is where you find yourself using larger drill bits and hole cutters. Many a time, I've taken a crack in the jaw whilst drilling out a cable tidy onsite. Ouch!
I think you've got it spot on. As woodworkers we need to sensibly decide where to invest our money for maximum effect and enjoyment. I have done roughly the same as you. This drill does what I need and then I've decided to invest in the Mirka Deros sander as I use a sander for a couple of hours on every project I do and the drill press only occasionally.
Happy New Year Karl.
Thanks for a lovely informative video, will certainly share on. Keep safe and a productive new year to you.
Happy new year! And I'm looking forward to this year, lots planned and I've a ton of stuff I need to edit into videos over the next few weeks/months.
Hi Karl,
I really enjoyed your thoughtful and thorough presentation of this drill. I bought the Bosch version when I
saw & learned about it on Amazon a few years ago. I have only a 12 x 8’ workshop and this drill fitted my requirements perfectly. The belt changing on other drills was a definite no no. I bought a large cast iron drill vice for it too. I too don’t like the noise even from the Bosch so I hang an earbud type ear protector from it to make it easily accessible when I need to use the drill. That’s the only downside to it for me. I’ve got used to the chuck and printed helpful arrow labels so I can turn it the right way first time. It’s a drill I really like to use actually and the results are fine. I also prefer the softer Bosch green to the harsh blue! Keep up the good work. You must be enjoying it because you do it so well.
Hi Christian. There's more to come on the subject in the coming weeks. Actually - I've got a different chuck in the drill now which I'm much happier with. Thanks for the comment on the videos. I really enjoy all the attention my videos get and the coming-up with the ideas to go into the videos. It's the bit in the middle - filming and editing - that I still find quite challenging, but in a good way. I just wish I had more time to spend doing it.
Great review! Really like the features at that price point, I think I would like one of those, I have been considering one for a while. Digital displays on a bench press whatever next. Hastily clicked the link and nothing left lol. I snoozed I loozed. I would happily live with that terrible noise for the amount I would use it though. Otherwise it would be a no no. Never get to an Aldi so will have to keep my ear to the ground. First review of 2021 Happy New Year to you and yours.
Ah, yes. To be honest I spent rather too much time making my mind-up as whether I liked it or not. Some of the footage was shot in November having unboxed it. Anyway, stay tuned for the next exciting episode because we're not done with drills and drill presses yet. Anyway same to you Happy New Year.
I thought Arnold is using the drill to build a new terminator 🤭. I have just bought one after this awesome review.
Hey thanks for the comment. I hope the new drill works out for you.
Good lad. Start with the runout. Tbh 0.2mm would do my crust, but I'd lay money that the Bosch isn't any better from what I've seen. Where's the runout coming from? The chuck, the bearings or both? It'd be interesting to see the inner workings of this and to know if that runout coud be improved by simply swapping in a decent bearing or two like you can with a standard drill press, or if you can change the chuck for a better one. You're right about that stupid wheel on the Bosch. One thing I don't get about these bench drills is why are they all so damned noisy? I'm sure if Makita got into the game it'd be whisper quiet with no runout either.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. I do have the. Bosch machine too for a comparison vid and the runout on that is around 0.8mm. I've taken the Sheppach apart and there are two problems in my view and you've mentioned them both. The bearings are cheap and generic. The Chuck too is generic and even the manufacturer doesnt spec the runout below 0.2mm. Bosch is marginally quieter but better built. The model I have has a few differences to some I've seen reviewed. Thanks for the comment.
I have this same model and now prefer it to my _expensive_ large Delta brand bench pillar drill like yours (mit belt adjuster :-) . I have the Scheppach mounted on a fixed-height MDF 'box' which overcomes the working at eye height issue. Being able to easily change speed is a godsend, the laser needed some gynaecological adjustment and I'd like to replace the LED light with something from the side. The drill height mechanical stop is the best I've ever used and being able to electronically adjust that height as well is fabulous. Just buy one if you can, you won't regret it. Only downside is the awful rattling fit handle - fixed with some shims :-)
Thanks so much for the comment
Excellent review
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@@vicsaunders9710 thanks for the comment.
Good review Karl. I bought the Ferrex (Aldi) pillar drill in late 2019, but wasn’t happy with the quill play on it, so eventually replaced it with one from Rutlands which has been much better value for money. So much so, that I’ve also got their bandsaw now 👍.
I have their benchtop mortiser which I found to be a great bit of kit. I'm really quite impressed by their Router Table offerings recently just a bit too late for my router table purchase last year.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Yes, I'll definitely be checking them out for future purchases. Bye the way Karl, will there be any 3D printing videos coming up this year, as I've now got one, (Creality Ender 3 v2), and have been able to design & print a few workshop accessories which has been great fun.
@@idlersdream826 That's a good question and at the moment probably the most frequently asked one at the moment as I've got quite the reputation for 3D printing that sell well. So yes, if there's demand I'll think about how give my perspective on 3D printing. Marius Hornberger did a great 'is 3D printing worth it in the workshop video' so may be something like that. If you want a quick tip about how to learn fast - find something that you need multiple quantities of and try to improve the quality and optimise your print time every time you print one. You will learn about tweaking settings in your slicer (I use PrusaSlicer which is great and has an Ender profile) and also how to design better features. For me it was assortment boxes for the workshop and the jigs when I got going with them. If you focus on cosmetic appearance and getting accurate dimensions for your things you'll enjoy the results so much more.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Thanks Karl, I’ve already purchased your Festool waste side jigs, they’re great 👍.
So far, in learning Fusion 360, I’ve designed my own M6 & M8 star knobs in 25mm & 40mm dia, and guide rail stops for the TS55, plus some paint dogs.
I’m currently using Cura slicer and have been able to print multiple pieces, sequentially, one at a time. I’ve been very impressed with the print quality of this machine.
The next project, now that it’s no longer on the kitchen table, but in my loft room, is to set up a Raspberry Pi with camera & OctoPrint for remote monitoring/connection.
@@idlersdream826 I only got OctoPrint going in October - it's truly a game changer.
Incredibly disappointing that both Scheppach and Bosch didn't do with a variable inverter and an AC motor. I have that for my micro lathe and it is nearly silent, with amazing torque at low speeds.
I agree.
Great review Karl 👌
Thanks Keith.
Great review thank you 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, I’ve been watching the Bosch reviews, thinking of buying one before I return to England - interesting comparison, but I’m inclined to think you get what you pay for?
Kathryn, Since making this video I now have the Bosch machine and it's a far more refined machine. The castings are crisp and clean, the plastic is better quality, the chuck is better quality, and it's a smoother machine too. My grown-up son has the Sheppach now and it suits his needs; my Bosch is the workshop workhorse.
Got mine for £59.99 on the 30th December 2020 in my local Aldi. Pretty sure it was the last one anywhere tbh.
Got 60 quid you've got incredible value for money in my opinion. The RRP for these machines is £179 normally and it's more refined cousin, the BOSCH BDP 40 is retailing at £325 right now.
Nope I found the last one at £49.99
@@straitjacket7969 Brilliant price!
@@straitjacket7969 another tenner off! Nice one.
It's unexpensive, and we can't expect perfect job. If you don't repair watches it's very good for a price. Mine is not loud at all, but laser is inaccurate. It's maybe 1,5 mm off axis. Is there possibillity to calibrate it, even if I have to open chasis?
I would imagine there’s some adjustment under the covers. K.
thing is, i (and most people) would want that low rpm to drill for example steel with a larger bit to keep surface speed ideal... and i am going to go out on a limb and say it just has not got any torque at that low rpm.... but i wish this was tested.
Drilling into steel isn't a use case for me, but fair point I didn't take the test as far as I could have.
Having had the machine a while, I'm not sure it's really a metalwork drill press
How is this for light metal work, drilling out a bleed nipple from a caliper is one job I need to do..
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I’m sure that with care it would be fine. So long as you’ve punched your mark and spotted, drilling a accurate hole in mild steel should be fine. As for bleed nipples, no idea.
Thank you for showing , I was about to buy one, but the noise of the gears and motor would drive me nuts
A Shame tho as it looks a quirky device with some nice features
It is too noisy. I will be reviewing the Bosch version of this which is much better overall. Really not as quiet as a traditional bench drill though.
Thanks
No problem
hi, here (italy) is for sale in this days. anybody tested it with mild steel? usually need to drill 2-5mm plates. thanks!
I'm not sure it's going to be suitable for mild steel. I've had acceptable results in mild steel but I've had to take it slowly in material which has had a good centre punch marking the hole. But others have commented about it wandering about and drilling inaccurate holes.
Cracking review.
Is it possible to change the Chuck to a keyed version?
I would have thought so. The chuck has a 1/2" 20tpi thread.
Bought a Scheppach DP60, after the first time i used it it broke completly.
That's a shame. To be honest, I do wonder about the quality control out the factory and whether the discount supermarkets are actually monitoring returns and demanding more.
What do you mean with broke completely?
now you have had it for a year are you still happy with it?
It was fine while I had it and it now lives in my son’s workshop where it drills holes in PCBs. The biggest complaint was always the noise levels. I’m now between drill presses at the moment.
This seem to be almost an exact copy of the Bosch. Some small design changes but otherwise identical down to the run out of the drill.
It's the overall design is the same. But it really is not a copy. I've since replaced this machine with the Bosch bought new in January. As far as I can tell (and I've had both apart) none of the components are the same - similar but the quality is lower in the sheppach (built to a price). The run-out on the bosch I have is negligible compared to the scheppach. The bosch is quieter, and soft-start speed controller, has a way better barings and chuck. All the castings on the bosch are finished properly with all the sprues and flashing removed (no sharp parts), the plastic for the housing is better quality. The base is wider and the unit more stable.
There will be a follow-up video to this one now I've had time with both. Yes, if you in the market for a budget drill then this would be fine if you can live with its bad points. But the Bosch version is much better value for money.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop thats good to hear. Thinking about buting a Bosch myself
what is a good budget drill press for drilling steel?
Definately not this one. The old Firm drill press you see me stand next too is pretty good for metalwork. I bought it from a guy who makes model steam railway engines and he was sorry to see it go. A good second hard press similar to that would probably be okay.
I think if you were still in the market the STAHLMANN TB071 Bench Drill is better and cheaper
Very interesting and thanks for the tip.
Not listed online anymore :(
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Question, can this work at low spees like 30rpm?
No 180 RPM is its lowest speed. It's really aimed at hobby woodworkers and isn't a serious engineering drill press.
Thanks
Great review. I wonder if the Bosch is that noisy? And if there's any way to replace the arm with something more familiar?
Actually I just saw a video review of the Bosch and unfortunately it looks like this geared design is inherently noisy. Looks like a traditional drill press for me. No idea where to start though.
Stay tuned as I have the Bosch machine too and a side-by-side comparison is coming. Without coming to a conclusion before I get all the filming done, one of the most obvious things about tool designs is that it is possible to come up with an adequate design and then make it more cheaply.
Thinking of it as a mounted hand drill is useful.
There's an though here where I review the FERM drill press I have. I was clueless about what made a good machine when I bought it a few years ago but all its faults has me looking at the Bosch/Sheppach machines with hopeful optimism.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop I had a look for it and couldn't find it. Was it the FERM 1026? I'm not really seeing that on sale in the UK much.
I now understand why my Bosch PDB40 is more money, build quality and performance and loads quieter.
You're absolutely right. Although it should be noted that Aldi sell these machines well below the RRP of £179.00 and Bosch will often take £100 off their model during black-friday and pre-christmas sales. But if you judge solely on the hole left in a piece of timber, then there's really nothing in it between them. There's more to come on the subject so stay tuned.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop I bought my Bosch for £180
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Good review Carl. It looks too plastic to be convincing of any quality.
Hi Graham - In all fairness it cuts pretty straight and accurate holes. But certainly the quality of the case is poor and, like I said in the video, the finish to the cast aluminium parts is a bit rough. You can see where Scheppach have made the unit to a price. I did tear-down the machine and have looked in detail at some of the components and simple things, like bearings, are cheap chinese commodity parts. The chuck is the same a generic version of the Rohm chuck found on the Bosch drill. But at £129 it does, I think, stack-up well against more traditional bench-top drill presses at that price point. None of which are precision or quality items in my view.
But thanks for the comment. Keep watching I've more to say on this in a future video.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Cheers Carl Happy New Year by the way.
Got mine for £50
Yup they've a machine in my Aldi at that price too. What do you think of it?
Bosch PBD-40 wobbles on column itself, this is not adjustable as there are not screw for adjustment WHY. Why any Cheap drill stand has adjustment on the column with screws and drill machine for 340EUR does not, BOSCH are idiots or think that we are.
The chuck is OK but it has wobbly bearing too.
Thanks for the comment.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Your welcome, the chuck needle bearing needs to be replaced with brass bushing then play of the chuck goes away. However how to solve the wobble of drill itself I do not know, except drill bolts of 8mm fine thread into the aluminum casting place steel nut inside with expoxy fill. Bolts must be brass. The inside if the aluminum sleeve must be enveloped with thin brass sheet too.
NEWSFLASH ! Its £45 in ALDI Bristol 15.3.2021
I know it's nuts the price now. I was speaking to someone in my Aldi and the larger tools are taking longer to shift and they've been steadily marking the down since November.
If you have a good drill, you can also just use a drill stand?!?
Yes absolutely you can. I would say that drill stands in the £30 - £100 range in the UK are not always as accurate or smooth to use. To be honest I would say this machine would be comparable to that sort of set-up.
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Yes I thought so too. Thanks.
Sadly its a great looking drill, but low quality. Have had several problems, and now after a couple of uses uts wobbly, the chuck is alsaw hard to lock. Do not recomend it
The machine you see in the video has held up fairly well. However, the chuck did fail and I had to fit a replacement. It's the noise that bothers me though and I would say the machine is built to a price and not good quality.
I bought this drill from Aldi U.K. unfortunately it was soo in accurate trying to drill 3mm aluminium sheet with 3.5 drill bit it was nearly 1/2 hole diameter out of centre mark. Aldi were brilliant gave full refund no quiver. Really disappointed as the concept of this drilling machine ticked so many boxes, but a drilling machine that does not drill with a measured accuracy is not acceptable for diy and model making projects .
I'm sorry to hear that and that is a shame. Their returns are very good though.
Hearing the noise, this thing won't last long.
It's still running fine - although very noisy still. I did move this on to my son's workshop and he's pretty happy with it for guitar building. But I really did get to hate the noise.
We call them a drill press 😂
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0.2mm run out is disgusting for a new tool why would you buy something of such crap
Compared to reviews of earlier models 0.2mm is better than I was expecting. I was being honest when I said for what I need it's good enough, but the design is flawed.
Can you point to something with better accuracy at the same price?
@@ian1352 No but it shocked me that it's brand new and has that much run out, bin it off, and invest in a proper one 😉 I have one the same was thinking of new bearings but you vid has put me off doing it now good luck Ian.
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