Ace Frehley on Eddie Van Halen "watching every move I made," Drugs, Tapping, KISS Makeup, Gene, Paul

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • A full in bloom News Brief - Ace Frehley on Eddie Van Halen, drug use during KISS, guitar tapping technique, Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Peter Criss, KISS's makeup + comments from WASP guitarist Chris Holmes & Ritchie Blackmore - Terry Kilgore, Harvey Mandel.
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Комментарии • 616

  • @nogoogleplus
    @nogoogleplus 7 месяцев назад +184

    “A couple beers, and a couple lines of blow because I had integrity” 😂

  • @Ross_From_Synthetica
    @Ross_From_Synthetica 7 месяцев назад +81

    Harvey Mandel: I guess you’re not ready for that yet, but your kids are going to love it!

    • @r.g.armstrong2688
      @r.g.armstrong2688 7 месяцев назад +3

      Man, you got me with this comment

    • @terrylynch9529
      @terrylynch9529 7 месяцев назад +2

      Harvey is the man.

    • @Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq
      @Geoffreydarcy-pv4mq 7 месяцев назад +1

      His influence on guitar playing/players, cannot be overestimated, and will never be fully realized.

    • @theofficialdiamondlou2418
      @theofficialdiamondlou2418 7 месяцев назад +1

      Nice reference … 8/10

    • @ericwalters5382
      @ericwalters5382 7 месяцев назад +1

      That's odd. I saw him in Champaign Illinois in 1976 & he completely sucked. Booooriiing. Worst $5.00 l ever wasted.

  • @usaslakt
    @usaslakt 7 месяцев назад +44

    I read somewhere that cavemen in the north of Europe used sit around a fireplace and finger tap on their bows around 4000 years ago, creating spectacular solos...

    • @TheLowCountryRebel
      @TheLowCountryRebel 7 месяцев назад +3

      Don't be so modest. Everyone knows you were there.

  • @BWater-yq3jx
    @BWater-yq3jx 7 месяцев назад +13

    Honestly, at this point I'm just impressed that Ace is still alive.

  • @eoinjames4018
    @eoinjames4018 7 месяцев назад +32

    Marty mcfly was doing that stuff back in the 50,s maybe that's were Ace got the idea

  • @davidrapant6398
    @davidrapant6398 6 месяцев назад +4

    This whole tapping thing and the origins is ridiculous. Its just something to argue about. Eddie says he saw Billy Gibbons do it. He probably saw others do it too, but in small amounts. Eddie took it to the next level and put it the context of guitar solos and songs. He executed it flawlessly and put it on display on Van Halen 1 for all to hear in a form WAY beyond what anyone was doing at the time. Then others came along and even expanded on it like Steve Vai and Vitto Bratta. Who cares where it was first done? It was probably some kid fking around in his bedroom that did it first.

  • @Chaos46992
    @Chaos46992 7 месяцев назад +25

    Eddie was saying that there were some older jazz musicians that were doing this stuff before them as well.

    • @kennyblackbird5674
      @kennyblackbird5674 7 месяцев назад +9

      George Van Epps was one of them.

    • @KeyGuy88
      @KeyGuy88 7 месяцев назад

      Lenny Breau another@@kennyblackbird5674

  • @ploppill34
    @ploppill34 7 месяцев назад +19

    Ace is drinking again I see

  • @mikegallant3572
    @mikegallant3572 7 месяцев назад +30

    Tapping goes way back further than these guys. I watched an old black and white video of an italian dude doing it on an acoustic. Crazy good.

    • @ALGJR100
      @ALGJR100 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yep, I seen that video too, There's also videos of Chet Atkins tapping and sweeping back in the 70's.

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 7 месяцев назад +2

      I saw videos of Les Paul tapping

    • @MarkTolley-l8f
      @MarkTolley-l8f 6 месяцев назад +2

      Michael hedges took acoustic guitar playing to new heights. Did the hammer on and finger tapping as well. Hedges was absolutely brilliant...RIP Michael hedges and Eddie van Halen.

    • @davidferrara1105
      @davidferrara1105 3 месяца назад +1

      The world of classical guitar would like a word with you and all rock players...like 540 year's worth

  • @JohnGunn-o6l
    @JohnGunn-o6l 7 месяцев назад +6

    Gary Richraft flying turkey trot live REO Speed wagon guitar solo did tapping early 70s mind blowing guitar shread

  • @175epi
    @175epi 6 месяцев назад +2

    There might have been guitarists using that technique prior to Van Halen, but if it wasn't for Ed, no one would be talking about them.

  • @StH00D
    @StH00D 7 месяцев назад +83

    EVH never said he invented tapping, but he obviously created something so awesome everybody wanted that sound! It's embarrassing to hear people try to take or give credit for what EVH did! He gets all the credit because he reinvented it!

    • @jamesball5743
      @jamesball5743 7 месяцев назад +5

      Eddie jacked his style, that’s why he drank so much

    • @CarefulWithThatAxeEugene
      @CarefulWithThatAxeEugene 7 месяцев назад +2

      Overrated

    • @mickeyjohn2442
      @mickeyjohn2442 7 месяцев назад +11

      Jimi Hendrix didn't invent the whammy bar...but he perfected it...Just like Eddie Van Halen didn't invent finger tapping...but he perfected it.

    • @christopherm.6991
      @christopherm.6991 7 месяцев назад +8

      Well who invented guitar strings? Ace was that you?

    • @erickaufmancustomguitars1351
      @erickaufmancustomguitars1351 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@christopherm.6991 First he invented cats. Then he discovered cat guts, then invented guitar and amps. Invented melody too. No one was melodic before him either. Screw that Beethoven dude.

  • @Ace96x10
    @Ace96x10 7 месяцев назад +18

    Finger tapping as Ed did it goes back to at least the 1940's, and I'd bet long long before that.

    • @Me4-gc8qs
      @Me4-gc8qs 7 месяцев назад +1

      yep there is a black and white video on here showing a kid doing tapping in the 40's

    • @JayTor2112
      @JayTor2112 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, tapping the fretboard to make a note is not exactly a revolutionary discovery, my cat could accidentally discover that works. It wasn't used the way Eddie used it though of course. He pretty much revolutionized that style of tapping.

    • @Ace96x10
      @Ace96x10 6 месяцев назад

      @@JayTor2112 The only difference is Ed did it in a classical type of scale progression while the other guy did it in a bluegrass/jazzy scale. The Technique though, was identical. Ed just made it popular, but he didn't invent anything of it.

  • @StONed-yx5qq
    @StONed-yx5qq 7 месяцев назад +13

    EVH created the attention of finger tapping…he was pretty good at it!
    Anyone remember Stanley Jordan?

    • @e-mail881
      @e-mail881 7 месяцев назад +1

      I remember him... Now, he is Stella Jordan LOL!!!

    • @markusaurelius777
      @markusaurelius777 7 месяцев назад

      @@e-mail881 Sex change? Oh no lol

    • @I_Fight_Instacart
      @I_Fight_Instacart 7 месяцев назад +2

      Stanley Jordan is scary. People just don't know about him because he's a jazz guitarist.

    • @MarkTolley-l8f
      @MarkTolley-l8f 6 месяцев назад +1

      Magic touch was his first recording if I'm not mistaken. He had his guitar tuned in fourths to simplify the fret board.

  • @dkpitt3912
    @dkpitt3912 7 месяцев назад +6

    Ace is somewhat delusional. I mean I loved him as a kid in the 70s, but he blows his own horn a little too much.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +1

      And Eddie doesn't? Facts are facts. Look up the evidence. No one is saying that Eddie didn't bring his own flair, but Ace has a place in history as well.

    • @dkpitt3912
      @dkpitt3912 7 месяцев назад

      @@humphreybogart6663 Eddie wasn’t delusional. He had a very bad patch, but he got right. Ace is just plain sloppy and annoying. And way less a marker in the music/guitar world

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад

      @@dkpitt3912 correct me if I am wrong, but which one had the longer "bad patch"? Van Halen had 12 studio albums. 7 of them are the ones I listen to with a small nod to 5150 if I want some watered down Journey.
      Kiss had 6 solid albums, Ace solo, his Dynasty material, and I love all his solo work which is 8 more albums along with any extras sprinkled around Kiss decline. Ace ALWAYS delivered and wasn't dragged down with keyboard schmaltz. Each to his own, but Ace has simply more to work with. He will always rock harder to me. Eddie has nice tricks, Ace solo you can sing to.
      Love them both, but I always nod to Ace...not to metion he sings unlike the one time Eddie did.. that failed.

    • @dkpitt3912
      @dkpitt3912 7 месяцев назад

      @@humphreybogart6663 good luck being stuck with that brain

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@dkpitt3912 Don't need no luck son. Pioneers don't need to follow like simps that are blind in love and refuse facts. Ever heard Ace's first solo album?

  • @davidperez5089
    @davidperez5089 7 месяцев назад +5

    Smells fishy to me, not as bad as stinky gene though.

  • @wolfpack9958
    @wolfpack9958 7 месяцев назад +68

    Ace is on the sauce again.

    • @sbeard73
      @sbeard73 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yep he is. Ace is a great guitar player! Why run your mouth, just be humble. Seems to be getting worse for sure, I haven't even listened to his new album because of this.

    • @anthonylove821
      @anthonylove821 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tomato sauce? Lol😂

    • @LarrySmithart
      @LarrySmithart 7 месяцев назад +1

      Doubt that

    • @averyetvspecial1487
      @averyetvspecial1487 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@sbeard73Eddie was also on the sauce and also ran his mouth about influencing people he probably didn’t.

    • @TheOnlyHollywood1
      @TheOnlyHollywood1 7 месяцев назад +3

      He isn't about the tapping though. There's a video of him with KISS in 1975 on the Midnight Special Show. He starts tapping during his solo on the song She

  • @startrekker188
    @startrekker188 7 месяцев назад +23

    Ace gets flashbacks of things that never happened! 🤣🔥

    • @automatoncollectives7237
      @automatoncollectives7237 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ace probably had Gene try to explain to Ace what he saw EVH do during those sessions. Ace didn’t figure it out and used his pick instead.

    • @markusaurelius777
      @markusaurelius777 7 месяцев назад +4

      Ace is horrendous live now. The other KISS members are just Lip synchers.

    • @avarose316
      @avarose316 6 месяцев назад

      Oh but they did in Aces mind….and nobody remembers it better then Ace..😂😂

  • @humphreybogart6663
    @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +7

    What people need to do that doubt is type in Ace Frehley Midnight Special 1975 solo watch him tap, then find Eddie Van Halen Eruption without tapping 1975, then listen to the Shock Me solo from 1977 on Alive II, then of course compare that to Eruption 1978.
    Then come back here and apologize for every stupid uniformed Eddie fanboy reply that was dead wrong.

    • @johnmarshall3903
      @johnmarshall3903 7 месяцев назад

      Ace also was tapping in 1975 at the San Francisco show in black and white.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@johnmarshall3903 I never noticed that! Which song???
      Nevermind I found it. Dear lordy I never noticed. As far asI know, there is zero recorded evidence of Eddie tapping around that time!

    • @IanK369
      @IanK369 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@humphreybogart6663 Van Halen fans will complain that Kiss fans are idiots who just hang on Ace's grapefruits, but, they do the exact same thing with Eddie.
      Is EVH the better guitar player. Sure. But the Kiss haters get off more on hating Kiss than they do loving the bands they actually love.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад

      @@IanK369 Actually I think Kiss own fans hate on Ace against Eddie too. Ace had his own individual talent, abd the fact that he influenced Eddie is not a digat Eddie. What is actually more sad is how Gene was taking steps to push Ace out earlier and he was trying to mock him way back when. Kiss fans cannot grip this because it puts Gene in bad light, yet isn't the evidence clear from Gene's own mouth?

  • @mattstickle2725
    @mattstickle2725 7 месяцев назад +13

    Eddie Van Halen never borrowed one thing from you Ace. As much as I love you. Or loved you. I gave you all of my money from age 14 to about age 50. I am justified in my critique. All the love and continued health

    • @Fuxerz
      @Fuxerz 7 месяцев назад

      Kinda coped Ritchie Blackmore more than Ace. He claims to like Eric, but Ritchie really hurt Eddy. One time in the Rainbow bar Eddie walked in and saw Ritchie Blackmore John Bonham drinking he told them he was a fan and they said f off kid. He was really hurt how Ritchie and Bonzo treated him like shit. Eddy used to call Ritchie drunk 3am and tell Ritchie how much he loved him. Weird right lol but Eddie is a genius and had his own style. Ritchie brushed him off till finally talking to him. 😂 Eddie had it in for Randy Rhodes for some reason. At the end of the day, they are all great. Guitarists. If you have ever been in the band, they're jealous of each other so bad there worse than lead singers. They all hate each other like a bunch of school girls.😂 Anyway, I love Eddie too and top 3 guitarists of the world to me.

  • @bluesoddity2094
    @bluesoddity2094 7 месяцев назад +3

    All guitarists steal from other guitarists.

  • @marvinmartin3438
    @marvinmartin3438 7 месяцев назад +11

    Frehley can't play anymore. Just sayin

    • @doodlebob3758
      @doodlebob3758 7 месяцев назад +4

      neither can eddie

    • @vistalite
      @vistalite 7 месяцев назад

      I saw Ace open for Alice Cooper a few years ago. He performed the worst guitar solo I’ve ever seen a “professional” guitarist play. It was like watching a beginner at an elementary school talent show.

  • @michaelabba5150
    @michaelabba5150 7 месяцев назад +22

    You know what’s weird about Ace? He looks ridiculous and can be pretty embarrassing, but somehow, he’s still so unbelievably cool to me.

    • @jcsolomon6470
      @jcsolomon6470 7 месяцев назад +2

      Cause Ace is da Face of Coolness,nah!Allways!

    • @Nickk81
      @Nickk81 7 месяцев назад +1

      He’s a God

    • @e-mail881
      @e-mail881 7 месяцев назад +1

      You clearly don't know the meaning of the word "cool"!

    • @burningdaylights
      @burningdaylights 7 месяцев назад

      Ace just seems very likeable, to me.

  • @jim2431
    @jim2431 7 месяцев назад

    Spot on, Eddie was the best "tapper" I ever rocked to. He learned from the best. RIP VAN HALEN

  • @kurtmackenzie7349
    @kurtmackenzie7349 7 месяцев назад +4

    Eddie sure didn't take anything from Ace.Dejango Rhinehart was tapping in the 40s.

    • @martinkasper197
      @martinkasper197 7 месяцев назад

      Dejane Rhinehart - sounds like a porn actor name... His name was Django Reinhardt...🤓🤣🤣

  • @The-Contractor
    @The-Contractor 7 месяцев назад +9

    Harvey Mandel is an absolute Axe God. First heard him in '72, "The Snake." An album that sounds as good today as it did all those years ago.

    • @flyingburritobro68
      @flyingburritobro68 7 месяцев назад

      Harvey is on the Stones Black And Blue album. Trying out for The Stones replacing Mick Taylor is enough to show his greatness

  • @patrickmoreau7592
    @patrickmoreau7592 7 месяцев назад +9

    Sure Eddie went to New York and saw KISS 🤣🤣

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +12

      ​@eyesofmadnessuh its actually true on Gene Simmons dime. Find one version of Eruption with tapping before 1977...but after Alive II and him going to the Naduson Square Garden concert...
      Meanwhile all the kids seem to be unaware who paid for their demo and who played on Gene's demo.
      The can of ignorant never ceases to amaze me. Bunch of Eddie riders.

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hahahahahahaha no kiddin, what a load of crap.

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 7 месяцев назад

      @eyesofmadness Exactly lol

    • @everythingbobbywolfe
      @everythingbobbywolfe 7 месяцев назад

      Umm, gene Simmons has discussed, ad nauseum, that he gave van Halen their start. Common knowledge dip shit. He also had rush open for them for a while. Yes, Eddie did see plenty of kiss before they got famous. Just read or watch one interview ya f'ing jag-off

  • @surfcollector
    @surfcollector 7 месяцев назад +3

    Please, can we stop pretending Kiss was a good band? They would never have gotten a record deal without the make up and pyrotechnics.

  • @scotv5099
    @scotv5099 7 месяцев назад +19

    Eddie listened to Page doing hammer ons and pull offs during Heartbreaker solo and thought what if I added another finger to that...

    • @VRGuy286
      @VRGuy286 7 месяцев назад

      Just like Ace used to do with his butt hole

  • @aaronkristo858
    @aaronkristo858 7 месяцев назад +225

    Rumor has it that Eddie Van Halen accidentally dropped his guitar down a flight of stairs once and it sounded better than Ace Frehley.

    • @robertbeuck7556
      @robertbeuck7556 7 месяцев назад +11

      oh now THATS FKN FUNNY !!! lol11😆🤣🤣😂😛

    • @frankrichards3089
      @frankrichards3089 7 месяцев назад +6

      Lmao

    • @hounddog3476
      @hounddog3476 7 месяцев назад +15

      I could listen to Ace Frehley solos over and over. Van Halen did guitar tricks then had to break into the kinks because it was just fluff

    • @robertbeuck7556
      @robertbeuck7556 7 месяцев назад +1

      @cooltheengines rumor or not I got $100.00 that says the feat can be replicated and probably spot on

    • @treeherder2201
      @treeherder2201 7 месяцев назад

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @sunsetsuperman74
    @sunsetsuperman74 7 месяцев назад +5

    Former Genesis guitarist, Steve Hackett has been known to have done finger tapping on the guitar long before EVH ever tried it, yet nobody gives him any acknowledgment of ever doing it.

    • @markusaurelius777
      @markusaurelius777 7 месяцев назад

      Hackett is a GOD.

    • @drjay73
      @drjay73 4 месяца назад

      Harvey Mandel from Canned Heat did it before Hackett and he gets no credit either

  • @toneman501
    @toneman501 7 месяцев назад +4

    There's actually video footage of Eddie's dad ' finger tapping' on guitar...it comes from flamenco guitarists...

  • @vanceharkema5131
    @vanceharkema5131 7 месяцев назад +2

    I don't think Eddie learned anything from ace or attempted to copy him.

  • @lewisridenhour6536
    @lewisridenhour6536 7 месяцев назад +2

    Chet Atkins was hammering long before all of them check out Orange Blossom Special ched Atkins

  • @scottglasson1957
    @scottglasson1957 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ace is freaking broke lolz.. bitter and broke. Still like him but his isn’t 1/3rd the guitar player evh was.

  • @michaeldique
    @michaeldique 7 месяцев назад +5

    As someone who started playing the guitar in rural Norway in the mid eighties, I gotta say that tapping has been "invented" many times. We had one TV channel, and there wasn't exactly a lot of hard rock on that thing. So I learned by listening. After about a year, I thought I'd invented this great new technique - which was tapping- But I quickly learned it wasn't new, and that was a bummer 😂 So regardless of who did it first, I believe more than one person has come up with the technique independently.

  • @Digthemadscientist
    @Digthemadscientist 7 месяцев назад +4

    Roy Clark invented tap soloing watch the footage 🤘😁🤘

  • @Wargasm54
    @Wargasm54 6 месяцев назад +2

    Doesn’t matter who invented tapping. Eddie brought it into the guitar vocabulary. Everyone and their mother started doing after Eddie.

  • @robertsmithers9059
    @robertsmithers9059 7 месяцев назад +2

    If he wasn't famous yet, why would you take note of some unknown guy (Eddie Van Halen) in the front row watching you?

  • @ettube8686
    @ettube8686 7 месяцев назад +2

    The difference between gean Simmons and Taylor swift. (Nothing) Lol

  • @mickeyjohn2442
    @mickeyjohn2442 7 месяцев назад +2

    Jimi Hendrix didn't invent the whammy bar...but he perfected it...Just like Eddie Van Halen didn't invent finger tapping...but he perfected it.

  • @JasonYoung-p3z
    @JasonYoung-p3z 7 месяцев назад +1

    there is no way I can play some of Eddie's solos. Lol There is no way that you can play any of them. And I actually love Ace!

  • @schreds
    @schreds 7 месяцев назад +1

    Italian guitarist Vittorio Camardese was tapping in the 50s ,, for sure where Eddie got his chops check him out some youtube stuff some of Eddies runs are identical ,, totally makes sense with Eddies folks immigrating from Europe and his dad being a musician

  • @rmg3008
    @rmg3008 7 месяцев назад +2

    I like Ace Frehley but I do not believe Ed was ever at any of his shows

  • @suhandani73
    @suhandani73 7 месяцев назад +1

    Integrity = only 2 lines of blow and 2 beers. No more, no less. Right. Hilarious

  • @rodneystanger1651
    @rodneystanger1651 7 месяцев назад +4

    Classical guitarist's were tapping eons ago. Nothing new about it.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +1

      But who changed how Eddie played. It was only after seeing Ace that it was incorporated. You get the difference? Ace influenced lots of guitar players as well. Who gives a shit about what classical players did. We are talking rock stars. That is commenting on the Rolling Stone having string arrangement and saying so what Beethoven did it first!!....uh duh...not seeing the relevancy.

    • @rodneystanger1651
      @rodneystanger1651 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@humphreybogart6663 Says the guy who upvotes himself. Yeah, he got it from Ace. And Ace got it from the guy in Canned Heat, and he got it from a guy before him, who got it from a guy before him and so on until it gets back to the classical guys. So it's relevant as fuck. Get it? Are you "seeing the relevancy" yet?😘

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад

      @@rodneystanger1651 I don't think I upvoted myself. If I did it was a mistake.
      As for the other...uh no not really. You see if Eddie changes the world after Gene Simmons shops him with the full intention of replacing Ace that is the difference.
      Yes there are long lines of influence, but when you are having an adult conversation about moments in time, bringing up a thousand other examples is immaterial.
      The difference between Eddie and all those others is the explosion of imitators afterwards.
      Example, Halloween influenced Friday the 13th...yet there was Bergman movies or Giallo blah blah blah. Yet Halloween is what the creators cite that they tried to rip off. The importance of F13 is that after it hit, the industry exploded with the 80's churning out horror knock offs like there was no tomorrow based on Friday the 13th being oracticall ground zero for the new wave.
      Halloween was the game changer even if Friday the 13th for a while was the more popular series.
      Gene Simmons should have been more loyal to his own band member but it was all about control. The point is would Eddie have got there so fast without Gene's financing and promotion and yes introducing Eddie to one trick thatat the least helped shape Eruption from what it was in the year before where it was played without tapping?
      Jimi Hendrix tapped at one point...so...he didn't impact any rock artists to do it in a huge way afterwards. When I think of Hendrix, I think of so much more. Ace made the tapping part of his solo for years and I believe one very important guitarist was noting this.

  • @FrankenstratAssassin
    @FrankenstratAssassin 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, Ace Frehley was just SOOOOO good.... ("HOW GOOD WAS HE?!!?).... he was sooooo good... that Gene Simmons ordered Ace to play the guitar solo for "Christine Sixteen" NOTE FOR NOTE the way Eddie Van Halen recorded it for Gene after hearing the original demo. That's right, gang. Gene Simmons played "Christine Sixteen" for Ed, and asked Ed how would he play the guitar solo for the song. Gene recorded it, and already knew....and immediately decided that was the solo for the song.... period. True story. So because of Ace recording Ed's solo note for note on the recording, needless to say, Ace Frehley was not a happy man when the name "Ed" ever came up. From that moment on, it was always sour grapes with Ace. And let's also be honest here, no one loved Ace Frehley more than.... Ace Frehley. But Ace?.... psssst... don't blame Ed, blame Gene!! King Edward, may you shred in peace.

  • @redsixxrevolution6676
    @redsixxrevolution6676 7 месяцев назад +11

    I always thought Eddie got inspiration for Eruption by listening to Ace’s solo at the end of Shock Me from the Kiss Alive 2 album. The tapping was similar.

    • @johnsmith-ug5tp
      @johnsmith-ug5tp 7 месяцев назад

      I agree and a few years ago, I thought maybe Ace saw Eddie doing it when Gene was trying to get Bill and Neil to sign VH. He even took the band to watch VH perform live.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +7

      Ace was tapping long before Eddie. You see it on the Kiss Midnight Special televised before Van Halen was even sighted by Gene.
      Try telling fool fanboys different. The sheer idioacy that Ace took it from Eddie is just history rewriting.

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 7 месяцев назад

      Not a chance

  • @R.Lennartz
    @R.Lennartz 7 месяцев назад +7

    A couple beers and a couple lines of blow = integrity.

  • @jeremysmetana8583
    @jeremysmetana8583 Месяц назад

    Tapping has been around since the 1930s, and there were jazz players tapping in even more sophisticated ways than Eddie often did, all the way back in the 1950s and 1960s. As to where Eddie got it, there are many, many stories, and Eddie was not particularly honest or straight about it, himself, vacillating between outright claiming he invented it, to denying he ever said that, to accusing anybody else who did it at all of copying him. My favorite story is the one George Lynch (allegedly) told, where he once said he and Eddie were at a jazz concert, where the guitarist on stage was doing some pretty intricate tapping, and Eddie turned to him and basically said, "I'm stealing that," and booked it out of the club before the show even ended. Now, that might be bullshit on several levels, and that's the point. It's suitable to the cultish mythicism that has grown up around Eddie for close to fifty years now. All flash and smoke and mirrors and bravado, peppered with moments of rare brilliance and meaning, and if you stray from the doctrine too far, you get a fat lip from his cultists.

  • @misfit2022
    @misfit2022 7 месяцев назад +32

    Ace wasn’t the most technical but he came up with some great riffs Cold Gin, Parasite, Strange Ways, Getaway, Shock Me, Rip it out etc etc etc etc

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 7 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly, he had a style and flare to his playing that is all his own, you could hear the difference in the way that Kiss sounded when he left the band in 1982 and that sound returned when he released his first Frehley's Comet album.

    • @vanceharkema5131
      @vanceharkema5131 7 месяцев назад +1

      There's a demo version of strutter that he sounds really good on.

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 7 месяцев назад +1

      Every dial set on 5, except the volume... 10! That was Ace's formula.

    • @misfit2022
      @misfit2022 7 месяцев назад +2

      @Atomic Whatever it was it worked as Kiss were never the same without him

    • @misfit2022
      @misfit2022 7 месяцев назад

      @Vance I will have to look out for that one

  • @NealVio
    @NealVio 7 месяцев назад +3

    Eddie said he saw Jimmie Page use his right finger on the fretboard, that gave him ideas. There's one thing I say to myself because so many people copy off of me, guitar playing, songs, even my band's name (ex a-hole Rainbow keyboard player). I'm the original and can come up with more ideas, they can't. Those other guys went nowhere. My point - Eddie was an innovator at playing the guitar, so he truly is the original. Sorry guys, I side with Eddie on this one. He may not be the first, but his technical ideas flowed like a river from album to album.

  • @keithh1438
    @keithh1438 7 месяцев назад +7

    Don't get me wrong, Eddie was Eddie, unmatched. But there was a time when KISS ruled the world, the live band KISS was a monster 76/77. I can easily see EVH going to see KISS and watching and learning how to not only play guitar in a huge show, but to fully entertain. Ace was huge during this time and was an awesome showman. There is really no comparison to be made between Ace and EVH, Ace is a blues based player, EVH was a majician. I love both Ace and EVH, imagine rock and roll history without them both.

    • @cooltheengines
      @cooltheengines 7 месяцев назад +2

      Very good insight, I agree they were both great. They each gave the world of rock something a little different.

    • @e-mail881
      @e-mail881 7 месяцев назад

      @@cooltheengines "They each gave the world of rock something a little different" ???? Is that a JOKE? Kiss could've gone forward with ANY guitar player other than Ace. The same CANNOT be said about Van Halen without Eddie. Eddie CHANGED GUITAR PLAYING. The same CANNOT be said about (((Ace)))!

    • @e-mail881
      @e-mail881 7 месяцев назад

      Fans are such pathetic creatures!

  • @treeherder2201
    @treeherder2201 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ace and Nikki Sixx should start a band and call it "Shit that Never Happened." Or "The Habitual Liars."

    • @automatoncollectives7237
      @automatoncollectives7237 7 месяцев назад

      Yes. Using a pick to fret a note is trilling. It’s not nearly the same.

  • @chrisbr1969
    @chrisbr1969 7 месяцев назад +2

    😂😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄🙄 yeah, okay, Ace…whatever you say..

  • @christopherm.6991
    @christopherm.6991 7 месяцев назад +27

    Ace must have bumped his head during that latest music video he did.

    • @thebluesrockers
      @thebluesrockers 7 месяцев назад +3

      What are you talking about? Ace's white costume with the red and blue dots looked "Udder" amazing" hahaha

  • @mannygrossman
    @mannygrossman 7 месяцев назад +1

    How would Ace be able to recognize an unknown EVH in the crowd at Madison Square Garden?Something don't sound right with that story.

  • @Dex000x
    @Dex000x 7 месяцев назад +7

    Maybe Paul won't admit that Ace came up with his makeup, but Gene Simmons gives Ace credit. He said Ace told Paul to put stars over both eyes, but Ace's story, as usual, sounds more believable than anything Gene or Paul say.

    • @syfman6
      @syfman6 7 месяцев назад +1

      I concur. I've heard either Gene or Paul tell the same story...💚🎸

  • @TedDiabetes
    @TedDiabetes 7 месяцев назад +4

    "When I was doing my guitar solo at Madison Square Garden, before they became famous, Eddie was down in the pit watching every fucking move I made."
    Meanwhile, somewhere in Pasadena, California.... ya know, where Eddie lived LOL.

    • @metalmarty3948
      @metalmarty3948 7 месяцев назад +2

      No kiddin, Don't believe anything out of his mouth, especially when he was drunk or high half the time back then.

    • @frankrichards3089
      @frankrichards3089 7 месяцев назад

      Lmao no shit

  • @trumpchump3539
    @trumpchump3539 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lol. You ain't know Ed Ace

  • @BANONEGuitar
    @BANONEGuitar 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ace should lay off the drugs. EVH forgot more about playing guitar than he’ll ever know. Might want to remind Ace whose solo he plays note for note on Christine Sixteen. It’s the one that Ed demo’d with Gene. Oh, the irony.

  • @drdave971
    @drdave971 7 месяцев назад +1

    Eddie Van Halen never borrowed anything from Ace , no disrespect but Ace can’t even hold Eddie’s beer . Cmon man
    Aces solos are easy and simple also rhythm is simple , Eddie’s is ridiculous his rhythm and soloing is difficult to pull off . King Eddie all day ❤️❤️🎸🎸

  • @billythephoenix
    @billythephoenix 7 месяцев назад +1

    I had ever VH and Led Zeppelin record ever produced but not one Kiss album because they sucked! Kiss my Ace, Ace!

  • @davidbanta7303
    @davidbanta7303 6 месяцев назад +2

    Ace is as full of bullshit as ever

  • @johncruz9357
    @johncruz9357 3 месяца назад +1

    Come on Ace!!!! Kiss is one of the most mediocre bands ever. If wasn’t for their image & stage show. They wouldn’t have hit.

  • @billchaney8791
    @billchaney8791 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why are these people trying to guess where Eddie got the tapping idea, when he told people straight out that he got it from Jimmy Page? Straight form the horse's mouth. It's not that much of a mystery, folks.

    • @scotv5099
      @scotv5099 7 месяцев назад

      Scrolled a hundred comments to find this... He's said it many times!

  • @friguy4444
    @friguy4444 6 месяцев назад +1

    Eddie watched everyone intently as a great player would. I also think Ed probably liked a few things Ace did. I know I did and thought a lot of it was very melodic and made the song a better song. The irony of all this is that Ed was asked by Gene often to try to come in a fill in for the sometimes missing Ace so Ed was literally playing some of Aces entire parts in the studio (meaning both rhythm and leads). Ace would then learn what Ed had done and platy it note for note often. Ed was trying to use the same style of playing that Ace did so it wouldn't sound like someone else. To even imagine that Ed got Tapping from him is a joke!! Ace didn't tap a bloody thing until the 1980's at best. Or even at all any time. LOL.

  • @jeffnelson57
    @jeffnelson57 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am a lead guitarist.
    Ace was barely average.
    No way Eddie learned anything but the basics from this guy.
    Kiss was always barely average. That's why they needed makeup & a stage show. I was there.
    I remember.

  • @c.f.pedraza4057
    @c.f.pedraza4057 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't care who thinks Ace is full of shit, Ace is the shit. 😂😂😂. Sure, he doesn't hold a candle to Van Halen, but Ace and Peter are Kiss. That and Dio started the horns not Gene. 😂😂😂

  • @ajo3085
    @ajo3085 6 месяцев назад +1

    For a guy who constantly brags about having no memory, Ace is very quick to take credit for things that happened decades ago.

  • @Me4-gc8qs
    @Me4-gc8qs 7 месяцев назад +1

    Oh ace really? Eddie was playing Guitar before Kiss was even formed. I hope none of you believe any of this.

  • @scottsanders2641
    @scottsanders2641 7 месяцев назад +1

    He was never really F’d up on stage. Saw them 3 times and Ace was always tight and spot on.
    Saw Aerosmith 3 times as well in the 70’s and those dudes were sloppy and F’d up lol

  • @stiffrichard2816
    @stiffrichard2816 6 месяцев назад +1

    Frank Zappa was tapping high notes on Zoot Allures and John McLaughlin before that.

  • @daveb8449
    @daveb8449 7 месяцев назад +1

    'Watching every move I made'. lol
    Only in Ace's delusional, alcohol-soaked mind.

  • @dusty3913
    @dusty3913 7 месяцев назад +1

    The whole “Eddie got it from….” Is just so over and boring. It’s meaningless…

  • @humphreybogart6663
    @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +4

    One other thing I always found sad is that if you have a recotd company that backs you, then you get the fame, however the Eddie Kramer produced Alive is a frickin' masterpiece.
    Notice how Gene Simmons will always put Ace down for being on drugs yet he cleaned up and outlived Eddie who never cleaned up.
    It is so pathetic that your own band member that helped make your millions gets zero respect, but Eddie who has talked shit on Kiss a few times gets Gene's hero worship.
    I love Eddie, and his music gets me along with Roth awesome attitude, but in their entire catalog, I am still taking the Ace solo album or Alive to the mythic electricity deserted island first for my choice of music.
    Ace was the whole package to me, not just a guitar player.

  • @rs8638
    @rs8638 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah bullshit, I watched Ace disappear under the stage high and useless during their farewell tour in Pensacola. I think ace is an okay guitarist but he’s starting to go senile.

  • @IanK369
    @IanK369 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think tapping was really invented by _Howie_ Mandel.

  • @2antiquated
    @2antiquated 7 месяцев назад +1

    There was always a suspicion of underlying plot to replace Ace and Eric with Eddie and Alex.

  • @Maidenfan83
    @Maidenfan83 2 месяца назад +1

    Once again Ace is bad mouthing a former bandmate in a small way. Ace must really live a sad and pathetic life

  • @davidmatela9868
    @davidmatela9868 7 месяцев назад +1

    To all the haters, Like it or not ACE did influence ALOT of guitar players.

  • @DMDvideo10
    @DMDvideo10 7 месяцев назад +1

    If Eddie was watching Ace is was to learn what NOT to do...

  • @justinfendelet8675
    @justinfendelet8675 7 месяцев назад +1

    VH Covers of KISS are terrible and the solos sound to VV 😮 EvH is ment for VH!!!!

  • @ScottMasson
    @ScottMasson 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t care who invented the tapping. Eddie did it better than everybody, and made it melodic and musical.

  • @derangedhermit2879
    @derangedhermit2879 7 месяцев назад +18

    …Harvey Mandel can never be mentioned anywhere enough!…Harveys pioneering finger tapping, is one thing, giving proper credit where it’s due, but it’s a much bigger tragic shame how Harvey Mandel is almost damn nearly lost to history!…I’d inherited my guitar playing pops 60’s to early 80’s era record collection, which inarguably altered the course of my entire life, & nestled in among all the critical Howlin Wolf, Miles Davis, Wes Montgomery, Curtis Mayfield, James Brown, Hendrix, Cream, Zeppelin Sabbath, Bob Marley, Beatles, & Creedance gems ect, ect. There was a stack of Harvey Mandel records to dive into, and ever since, I’ve introduced countless guitarists to Harvey Mandel over the decades that had never heard of him, and they’re all left bewildered, like, “How do I not know of him?”…(…& No! Not the Comedian Howie!”…LoL!…)
    Out side of Canned Heat, The super funky instrumental jamming Harvey Mandel solo albums; The Snake & Baby Batter, Christi Redinator all Harvey’s solo projects like the Pure Food & Drug Act, still hold up currently today, as fresh, and are barely even dated. Those albums are highly educational, and critical listening for objective guitarists, high level drummers and the funkiest bass players, and any musicians in general that are sending it and chasing uniquer styles and approaches!…8)

    • @rumpoleonthehilloldchap
      @rumpoleonthehilloldchap 7 месяцев назад +1

      harvey's guitarist Russell dashiel made the first super strat after selling his gibson les paul. 68 69. Russell needed the humbucker tone. he and harvey had strats . so russell put a humbucker in the bridge position. pics on the net.

    • @frankrichards3089
      @frankrichards3089 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah Mandel was a hell of a player.

    • @frankrichards3089
      @frankrichards3089 7 месяцев назад +2

      Dude is almost going NBCs Brian Williams on all this shit. Lol jesus

    • @rumpoleonthehilloldchap
      @rumpoleonthehilloldchap 7 месяцев назад

      @@frankrichards3089 cope

    • @vonholland64
      @vonholland64 7 месяцев назад

      He had that one triplet lick in the same position in every solo , Ed took it and made music out of it

  • @atlasgunther8947
    @atlasgunther8947 7 месяцев назад +1

    don't focus on how good a person is, but rather than who's first ... who's on second

  • @ChrisCookPrime
    @ChrisCookPrime 7 месяцев назад +1

    I started finger tapping in 1979, pretty sure they got it from me…who got it from them.

  • @david4903
    @david4903 7 месяцев назад +2

    There's a video out there of Eddie's father playing ukulele and doing the tapping probably before Eddie was born

  • @LTD-7
    @LTD-7 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ace is not even in the same league as Eddie Van Halen. Not even close.. 😑

  • @1FeistyKitty
    @1FeistyKitty 7 месяцев назад +30

    one of the best music info channels

  • @Del-Mondo
    @Del-Mondo 7 месяцев назад +1

    Two completely different styles two completely different people.

  • @Neylandsghost
    @Neylandsghost 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well at least its not another video crying about kiss... ace is so exhausting

  • @tomdecuca3627
    @tomdecuca3627 7 месяцев назад +1

    Harvey Mandel!! Check out 'Baby Batter"!!

  • @DIOSpeedDemon
    @DIOSpeedDemon 6 месяцев назад +2

    Aces new song is Great.! I wish I was a Rock Starr at that age, still kicking IT...!!! GO ACE.....

  • @vaekkriinhart4347
    @vaekkriinhart4347 7 месяцев назад +19

    Ace in the 70s was fire. His solos were always something that added to the song. They were always catchy and melodic.. Eddie reminds me of Ace in the same ways.. But EVH is the King, and Ace can't touch him.. I don't know what happened to Ace, but he hasn't played the same way since going way back to Frehley's Comet

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 7 месяцев назад +1

      The Dr. Love solo is def fire.

    • @nursinghomefire4741
      @nursinghomefire4741 7 месяцев назад +1

      What are you talking about? The whole band is talentless

    • @triplej8666
      @triplej8666 7 месяцев назад

      Casual non-musician take. Kiss deserve far more credit as musicians than boomer rock fans give them. Ace was a fantastic guitarist and wrote some of the most blistering leads and solos in the 70s@@nursinghomefire4741

    • @stiffrichard2816
      @stiffrichard2816 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ace's brilliance came out best when soling over KISS songs, even more than his own songs. That video he did with Paul a few years back proves it, but only by 33% because no Peter or Gene.

  • @bcancun123
    @bcancun123 7 месяцев назад +3

    Stinky 😂

  • @johnsmith-ug5tp
    @johnsmith-ug5tp 7 месяцев назад +8

    Ace's solo on Shock Me 1977. Around that time Gene was trying to get Bill to sign VH to their label and Gene brought Eddie to the studio. No way in hell would Eddie admit he picked it up from Ace. Kiss was considered a joke/clown band even at their pinnacle in 77 and 78 by all the big time acts and Kiss was shunned from radio and the mega bands of the late 70`s

    • @chrisoakley5830
      @chrisoakley5830 7 месяцев назад +9

      And despite all that, Kiss were the biggest band in the world from 76 to 78.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +1

      I have been saying this for years. Listen to the Alive II solo one year before Eruption which has an extremely similar sound right down to the dive bomb sound end. There are early versions of Eruption without tapping. After Eddie was invited to see them, bam Eruption comes out with the tapping. It is true tins of people tapped before, but only one changed the way Eddie played for good.

    • @humphreybogart6663
      @humphreybogart6663 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@secretlee-bf3kl blah blah. And yet who are you? Gene has enough money to knock of your best friend and pay you off not to say anything about it. 🤣

    • @frankrichards3089
      @frankrichards3089 7 месяцев назад

      Shunned from radio?

    • @johnhagan582
      @johnhagan582 7 месяцев назад

      Lol your right about Eddie admitting he got anything from anyone .hell he even tried to take credit for everything Randy Rhoads played but anyone with half a brain knows that's bullshit .Randy's compositions are far more complex and precise than anything Ed wrote .Ed got uptight every time someone brought up Randy Rhoads or Malmsteen's name .he was jealous of any other guitarist who played on his level

  • @ajjy1110
    @ajjy1110 7 месяцев назад +1

    frehleys tapping is the odd note tapped with a pick fk all like eddie van halen

  • @RandyFricke
    @RandyFricke 7 месяцев назад

    There has never been a bigger Ace Frehley fan than I. Ergo the guitar in my profile pic yonder.
    I wore out 3 copies of the first KISS album learning his riffs. I knew Ace's style better than anyone on the planet.
    Then along about the time the "Dressed To Kill" album came out I started noticing that Ace's style had changed. To my ears it was a dramatic change. Not giving too much though at the time I worked everything out and soldiered on.
    Then came "Destroyer" and I knew there was fuckery afoot. I got to thinking that a lot of the guitar work on that album sounded an awful lot like Alice Cooper's "Billion Dollar Babies" album. Wait a minute. Bob Ezrin producing? Holy shitballs was that Dick Wagner?
    They didn't let it get around back then that the reason that they had to bring in other guitar players (there have been a bunch of them too over the years) was because Ace was too fucked up to perform. Sure he had his sober days and they get some good stuff out of him. But now as we're finding out he became an unreliable liability. He once wrote bogus pharmaceutical prescriptions FFS!
    So I am going to say that I lost respect for Ace Frehley retroactively as far back as the "Dressed To Kill" album.
    Watching videos like this one I thought he was having a stroke. It's painful to listen to him. He hasn't played a new solo in 30 years. Very sad.
    Hell, they should have called me. I'd still be in the band.

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 7 месяцев назад +2

    Steve Hackett from
    Genesis also did the
    Tap thing, as well as
    Alex Lifeson in the song
    “The Necromancer”🎸
    They both used a pick to
    Do it, just like Ace…