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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- I recently made a video about why editors are leaving Adobe Premiere Pro for Davinci Resolve. Adobe responded the next day, and if you’ve been wondering whether they are actually listening to creators and are working on making changes to be competitive with Davinci Resolve and Final Cut, this video should answer those questions.
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The price sucks compared to Davinci. The speed that Davinci has compared to premiere as well as audio and vfx being built in are main reasons Im switching.
1. Warp stablilizer one-click analyze all not analyzed clips button
2. Ressolve-like node color grading process
3. Auto intro outro adding in render page
Biggest gripe why i switched to resolve is how bad adobe works on mac silicon compared to da vinci . Stability plus responsiveness
YES! The subscription price is too high!!!! Also when using 4K Sony a7Siii footage on a high end PC, the video previews on the timeline exhibit a LOT of horizontal video tearing and instability. Using Apple Qicktime Prores for previews but footage is H264. It exports fine with no problems though. Thanks for going to bat for us - You’re the BEST!! And I like your editing buddies too! 🇨🇦❤️
Make the colors accurate! My colors after exporting are never the same!
"be as good as the price they are charging" hit the nail on the head with that. That's literally all we want. Either make it cheaper, or make it better 🤷🏻♂
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It's so much more expensive than the other options that it's actually silly when the competition does it better. So much money coming in but not enough being put towards fixing the issues. I understand that the Creative Cloud is a whole lot more than just Premiere but c'mon.
@@JonnyHavensUr right cc is a Whole lots more than premier.. if you look at them on their own some will look like a bad deal but as a whole it's s good. Being able to import and update illustrator, ps and after effects files in premiere is a feature no other software has. This is the reason it's industry standard
@@ed61730 True but at the same time that's solely the only reason they rely on to charge the sub fee. If you check their plans and pricing, they "push" to you the Creative Cloud "all apps" subscription even if you only need Premiere and After Effects cause you get more at merely the same price. Even if you don't ever use them ...
@@mjscpr £25 a month is madness when Dav is just as good.
The BIGGEST reason I left Premiere for DaVinci is the fact that my colors in the timeline are NOT what they look like in the export. This has been going on for years now and it's literally insane. I can't be guessing what the heck my export is going to look like, and we shouldn't have to source corrector luts and grades from forums different corners of the internet to compensate for that. Those things dont even work anyways. The fact that they still haven't fixed this is the reason I left. And also yes DaVinci is free.
Mr. Tumen, say it louder for the people in the back. THIS has been my main issue with APP. I spend hours upon hours, working on the colors of my footage, only for it to look drastically different when its exported or shown on other platforms. Its beyond frustrating because it makes me look extremely unprofessional. I shouldnt have to purchase LUTS and do this and do that, in hopes of the color looking right. Sigh. I have been using APP for years, but it looks like I need to jump ship to DaVinci!
So true
I did find something that fixed this export colour issue for me (not the gamma correction LUT) before I too jumped ship to DaVinci 💁🏻♂️ it was annoying that it took so much of my time to fault find an issue that shouldn’t have been there in the first place.
@@fatlipmedia9559 what was the solution?
THANK YOU 😩😩😩
the color grade issue just killed APP for me
Besides the order issue since many years this one it’s the most problematic.
Our whole team switched to Davinci. We produced a theatrical documentary seamlessly between two editors, a colorist, a graphic designer, and a sound editor. Using our server and Blackmagic Cloud, we could do all the work on the project simultaneously. The only thing we had to leave the Resolve workflow for is Closed Captioning, After Effects or Adobe Audition's music remix features, but that is it. Unless Adobe does a complete overhaul of Premier Pro, providing that kind of collaboration and professional-level color tools, I think more and more people will leave.
I am staying with Davinci. And I say this as a Premier Pro guy. Adobe gave me my career. I cut my teeth on film and social media content with Premier Pro. But, despite what I was paying, I was getting minor interesting features but less ease of use.
Did you see the 18.5 DaVinci Resolve CC update???!!!
@@AmateurHourMTG yeah looks to be amazing 😍
Adobe was the only game in town for years that consumers were using. Adobe got too big, too pricey, too controlling and too arrogant with their products. ALL OF THEM! Davinci in its FREE version does 85% of what most film makers need, something that could never be said about Adobe anything. Davinic has been the colorists tool for ever and Black Magic just expanded on their awesome software over the years and it gets better with each update. Davinci workflow is amazing, nodes, etc. all in one great product for ONE great affordable price. Oh, and free updates forever. Adobe, unless they adopt the same business model, will continue to lose customers. I'm personally tired of "buying" software and never really owning it.
And with18. 5 they added lot of CC features.
Adobe’s CC was theee single feature I missed from Premiere when I swapped to Davinci. And now with 18.5, it’s a non issue.
I was a UI/UX designer for 18yrs in San Francisco. Back when designers were using fireworks, the Adobe fireworks team came to my company to talk directly with designers to see how they could improve the software. We gave them a long list of issues that needed to be resolved, including problems crashing, similar to premiere pro. Flash forward several years later, Adobe never did anything to fix the software and simply let it die with no added revisions. Designers later moved to sketch, a much better, cheaper non Adobe program. I’m in the process of switching careers into filmmaking and made the switch to DaVinci. It’s not just for the stability and pricing, but also for the incredibly well thought out UI and overall usability of the entire DaVinci Studio. As a former designer I really appreciate a smart interface that just works. In my opinion Adobe needs a better product team that actually cares about the software they are putting out. I do believe they are too big to care at this point. DaVinci all the way.
100 percent truth. Adobe ist just to big.
they don’t let Adobe die because of the huge amount of subscription which is over 9 million.
Agree!
I feel your pain with regards to Fireworks, with a fanatastic piece of intuitive software, despite no updates since 2013, it is still a very handy tool. It didn't fit with Adobe 💰💰💰 model as it could do a lot of what Photoshop and Illustrator did. They abandoned Fireworks and made a complete mess of Dreamweaver... I am pretty sure they only bought Macromedia for Flash and we know how that went!
To me it’s definitely the monthly subscription that’s keeping me away at the moment
That's pretty much my reason too
Same here. I’ve never been interested at looking at It because of the monthly subscription. Paying for Final Cut Pro once and never having to worry about it ever again is the way to go.
Same here
Same. I dumped Adobe years ago and I just recently edited a feature with Resolve and had no issues. However, being on a PC, my delivery requirements needed ProRes. So I signed back up just for Premiere because they allow PC users to export ProRes. I thank them for that.
Yup price is the only thing for me. I know Premiere far better than basically any other creative software and yet the price of Davinci Resolve is just way too compelling an argument.
The problem is way beyond stability. You can make Adobe bulletproof stable, I will never switch back to adobe. For me it goes all the way back when they tried to force us to the subscription system and stop supporting the standalone versions. They got greedy. Now they’re still greedy with a subpar product. Let them roll over and die.
Totally agree!
I totally agree too. My biggest problem with Premiere is that almost everyone I work with uses it as their primary software, so I'm forced to use it on any project I need to collaborate on. In the 6 or so years that I've been using it, I have never once been satisfied with its speed or stability. In fact, I am constantly impressed with the new and exciting ways Adobe has found to make it crash or have simple functions just not work. There simply isn't any other software that is so capable of destroying my creative momentum, so at least they're the best in one category.
The fact that one of the largest software companies in the world can't make the most expensive NLE work reliably blows my mind. Especially when a relatively small Australian company that primarily makes hardware can do it better with a VASTLY more capable color grading suite and make it free. So, if adobe is considering changing their pricing model, they should be paying the users back for all of the money and time (more money) they wasted dealing with the software.
Totally agree!! They are a terrible company who care zero for their customers. I really hope this just makes more people switch to DR.
Agreed
Drove me crazy when I used CS 5.5 for more than a decade and then jumped on CC and found out they'd been running in maintenance mode since its release - no nice new upgrades, no new effects, no anything.
It's been 5 years since I'm using Adobe professionally, and it's also 5 years of being stuck at rendering, media files not loading, broken dynamic links and random crashes. I've already started learning Resolve but I'm still hoping Adobe will fix the feedbacks of the community ASAP.
Davinci is fast to learn and you will not have these frustrations.. I had the same situation but I started on Davinci 15, that time we didn’t have all tutorials we have now.. It’s a great time to switch, many many classes on yt right now 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Don't hope, photographers have had the same issues with lightroom for 10 years, nothing ever changes. I'm staying away from Adobe products as much as I can.
I'd switched from Premier to Davinci three years ago. I don't loose single project or even 5 min of my editing work scince then, thanks to instant saving.
@@lezgo71 I just switched recently and I was really concerned about how hard it would be but I've already completed a short video for myself and Im pretty impressed. The only thing that bugs me is having to press space bar again to pause playback before I can edit otherwise it just keeps on playing when you move the playhead because in premiere pro it stops which imho makes more sense as I have intereacted with the software therefore I want to make and edit not keep watching!
To me it's puzzling that they ever fell so far behind. Like, Da Vinci Resolve is free. If I were a developer with Adobe, I'd be asking the team "How the heck did it ever get anywhere NEAR us, letalone overtake?" And that makes me ask questions about where they put their resources and makes me VERY glad that I switched 3 years ago.
What I love about DaVinci is that Blackmagic is innovating and constantly bringing new tools to help editors. I really like their AI tools, smart masking features, easy-to-navigate layout and something as simple as a good built-in denoiser. The workflow is simply superior and then you add the price on top of it and it's a no-brainer. I haven't used Premiere in years.
DaVinci is incredible in how often they change and innovate, it really is mind boggling at all of the things they offer and bring to the table for essentially free. Blackmagic obviously makes its profit from selling gear and Adobe doesn't sell gear so I get it but Adobe needs to make their product superior if they want to compete.
I agree. DaVinci Studio is both better in many ways and significantly cheaper. Adobe will never compete on price, so they would have to offer something I simply can't do with DaVinci to even consider going back. I can't imagine what that would be. I do still use their photography suite because it's actually still a pretty good value for what you get.
Same here. I switched to Resolve 3 years ago, before a lot of those innovations. And with each new version they blew me away. I will never go back.
I left Adobe when they introduced their subscription model and I will never ever return until they change it or drastically reduce the cost of it. Now that I have DR I am getting free updates and the software runs as stable as a rock. Why, just why would I ever want to go back to paying a fortune every month? I would have to be brain dead to do this.
Yeah I agree.. and they don’t decide to charge extra just because they have innovated .
I would love to see them fix the colors in the preview to match the export so you don't waste your time color grading. One of the reasons I don't use it at all for color grading is for this reason. I know about the "correction LUT" fix when you're exporting. However, I think it's ridiculous that they just created a "quick fix" and an extra step for the people that pay attention to the color, rather than fixing the problem for everyone.
THIS. THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY. It's not even a good band aid. There is still a difference between what you do in color, and what you export, it's just less noticeable. It's still noticeable on a color calibrated OLED.
Said the same thing in my comment!
They'll see this. :-)
Adobe blame apple for this but then openly admit that their colour engine converts and interprets everything to the best of its ability to Rec. 709 2.4. DaVinci solves this by giving you the ability to monitor in Rec. 709-A which is the Apple gamma. Having said that, Apple decided on their gamma to match how a camera captures an image back in the late 90s. It was HP and Windows that decided on Gamma 2.1 for their systems much later.
The fact Premiere lacks proper colour management is quite frankly laughable. Heck Photoshop and AE are getting ACES!
Exactly my problem. So annoying!
I switched way back in 2018 and have now saved a small fortune.
Colour was always my priority over animation so it was an easy decision really.
I fear they have left it too late to try to recover this.
Especially now that the influencers have started making videos about switching software in addition to camera brands 😅
After getting familiar with DR it ultimately came down to 3 things...1. The price, I get the editor, Fusion for composting and a solid audio editor. 1 price and done. 2. The nodes, intimidating at first but once you understand how intuituve the workflow is, its hard to think about color grading any other way. 3. Minor but major feature, the auto save feature. I've lost power a few times during edits, and I've had my system freeze forcing a restart. Each time I relaunched DR my edits up to the second before the crash were saved
Warp stabilization and speed on the same clip without having to nest it. Also add more default transitions, like film burns and light leaks. Give us a bunch of presets and stock that we have to pay separate for
I agree with you, Jim. I pay so much for adobe products. Yet-I always find myself buying third-party presets and plugins to get basic work done.
You have all that on danvici. Best change i ever did.
Spot on🤘🏻
Why doesnt warp and speed work. its been like 20 years and they both still dont work.
Having switched to resolve, I totally forgot about the having to nest the clip thing 😂 that one is absolutely insane
Premiere really needs GOOD transitions and effects built in. I do not understand why in this day and age it is so hard for them to have something as simple as a really good zoom transition. Hell, Tik Tok and other platforms blow Premiere out of the water and Premiere is supposed to be the top dog for editing? It's literally a joke at this point. Also thank you for doing everything you have done for the community and talking to them about these issues. Premiere works flawlessly but I only had to buy the best m.2 card in the world, reinstall windows and contract them to receive my first born son through an agreement with Nvidia + $69 a month.
even the online app...capcut has done it as well with their effects and transition.. couldn't agree more on this. 🤷
Exactly! Premiere's built-in transitions are still so 90s. At my employer we have Boris Continuum, which helps add to the palette, but most of them still disappoint. I've tried Motion Array, but instead of just installing honest-to-goodness transitions to the list that I can just drag and drop on the timeline, it shows up as multiple video clips on tracks that you have to customize manually with keyframes 👿
I use capcut currently cuz i’m broke, should i switch?
@@BKLYN48 get ready to be up late trying to create your own effects cuz there isn’t no drag and drop transitions like an app 😂
@@SteezyVlogs i don’t mind doing that
Great stuff - thanks for being honest with them about the issues and good on them for listening. As a team who switched to FCPX out of necessity last year because of stability and spped issues, we relate! in addition to your three main points (which are spot-on), I'd say that being able to have rendered video match exactly what we see the editing screen without having to add a correction LUT to the process feels important, and it's a good example of something that we feel should just work without extra hassle. Thanks for all you do!
AV1 support + hardware acceleration for 4:2:2 & 4:4:4 chroma subsampling PLEASE!!!
This might be a long shot since it's similar to your fourth point, but I think they should create an affordable app bundle specifically for filmmakers. Similar to the photo bundle, I should be able to get premiere and after effects for a fair price without having to pay for a bunch of apps that I'll never use. The all apps bundle just doesn't make sense for so many filmmakers and video editors.
I agree with you Matt...I would like to see this as well. I pay for all but really only use a few.
Amen to that!
Couldn't agree more, I just commented pretty much the same thing. It's like the developers were having a meeting on Economy of Scale and left halfway through the meeting. Preposterous.
for after effects, photoshop and illustrator is basically a must.
good idea, Read my main comment under Matts. I have some additional ideas
Some points to consider I believe are :
- Better stability and speed obviously, sometimes errors and crashes are horrendous.
- Save at each action, like Resolve, so if a crash happens we don't loose our work, time, and mind.
- Thumbnail cache, it's terrible to re-render them every time a project starts.
- New Import-Export menu is a step down, lots of clicks for the same thing. Also, caption option is enabled by default when a caption track is available, but when you open it the default caption export is set to "None" 🤷♀ I've had to re-export entire weddings because of this, it doesn't make sense.
- Maybe better pricing overall, and a package specifically for filmmakers
- Integration of Gyro data stabilization, it's going to be a truly gamechanger
Also, not Premiere specific, but it's about freaking time we are able to just clear the Recycle Bin on Adobe Cloud with one button, and not delete everything manually one by one, it's crazy.
p.s. Premiere crashed on export as I was typing this comment 😁
I agree with your list, especially with the sub-packages like Production Premium of old.
well said, my friend! I agree on every point. By the way, has it happened to you, at the export tab, when selecting the folder to save the render, to have premiere erase the last 2 letters of your file name? For example you have set the name "Tade v.2 9.16" and when you set the location, it is set to "Tade v.2 9"? Or is it a problem on my side?
Well said. In a report yesterday i just wrote to them that i have to deal with the same problems since 2006 when i started. Imagine that! I was 19 and i'm 36. So much money and time, please Adobe try more.
The thumbnail cache is crazy, especially on big projects. I just end up leaving premiere run for 2 weeks at a time because of this
Agree 100% with this list! with an addition to:
-Audio waveform cache, annoying to not see the waveform every time you start up premiere, esp when you deal with lots of audio
Shame that premiere have the worst stability when their UI is so easy to learn and understand, switched to Resolve this week and definitely feeling the learning curve
A super minor thing for the wish list: when a linked comp is made, a linked comps folder is automatically generated in the project panel, and linked comps are automatically sent there . Again, super minor, but would help keep projects tidy.
Hello, great video. I am constantly using Illustrator, InDesign, Audition, Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premiere. However, I'm totally ready to switch over to Davinici, as the bugs in Premiere are super frustrating. Currently I am paying $30 a month for the entire Adobe Cloud. For all those out there in a situation similar to mine, did you buy Davinici, but also still keep your subscription to adobe solely for the other apps? Just trying to weigh out my options on making the switch. Thanks in advance for any advice! :)
Premier should add 'export as individual clips' as an option in the export window. It should export individual clips with all the effects and color grading and also give a XML of the timeline to link it in other editing softwares. It would be a huge help for editing in premier pro and grading in davinci resolve workflow. Because some effects do not translate in XML so exporting individual clips with all the effects burned in to it and exporting it in ProRes or DPX directly from premier pro with a single click will be a huge help.
oh yesssss god that would be beautiful
They used to have. Did they took that away?
What I normally do is export the whole video and use scene detection in Davinci, works pretty well.
@@andytroy Yeah that is what I do too, but it's hard when there are cross dissolves, overlays, and other such effects. Exporting as individual clips gives us more control.
I love your thoughts right there on the XML link ..yes please!
I will only think about going back to Adobe if they offer a 250$ one payment option for a Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition bundle. And that's not the only thing I would have to consider about. for example is dificult to compare Lumetri and Davinci. I think it is almost imposible for adobe to even touch that level of quality.
My Premiere Pro has been bricked for three days due to a new apple update. Is there anything I can do? I've tried every troubleshooting tip and nothing, its forsure frustrating considering it was working perfectly a week ago. Im using a 2016 macbook pro i7 16gb ram and in theory shouldnt be dealing with any of this. Thanks for the video.
I think you hit on great points in your initial video. Their constant changing of workflow and ultimately adding more clicks/settings that the user needs to find is a big complaint of mine. ‘Knocks on wood’ thankfully, speed and stability haven’t been much of an issue for me - but I did upgrade to a Mac Studio last year. I’d also love to see uniform functions from their other apps if they’re going to force us into the essential graphics workflow. We can’t even alt+click and drag to duplicate a text field. Anyway, I really appreciate you for not going easy on Adobe!
That's really good news!
I'd like more
1. multi-threaded CPU support & better GPU support
2. stability (like you said)
3. Better AE integration in PP for simple tools for infographs & motion graphs. Perhaps better stock templates.
Multi threaded cpu support would be great. They added it to After Effects (although the launch version crashed and didn’t work at all) and is great when it works. But premiere feels sluggish even on stout hardware.
Thanks for representing the video editor community! I second your critiques about speed and stability. Those are of course the critical areas that need to be resolved. No pun intended. 😆
A few other request:
- remember text/caption presets at the app level. Currently it appears that they are specific to the project...?
- more robust searching to find clips
- the ability to see what sequences a clip is used in
- when I change the color of a clip in the Project pane, it should auto-update the color in the timeline. This used to happen. Is this a bug now?
A few kudos:
- the voice recognition and captioning functionality is great!
- The Graphics panel and graphics layers to hold multiple graphics, and the pinning and alignment capabilities all in that panel is nice!
Also, would be nice to have motion blur without having to use Transform.
Currently you are able to view which sequences a video or audio clip are used in. Just go to the project assets window and in the metadata categories turn on Video Usage & Audio Usage. That will show each and every instance an asset is used in your sequence(s).
Hope this helps!
Project Settings > General > ✓ Display the project item name and label color for all instances
"- when I change the color of a clip in the Project pane, it should auto-update the color in the timeline. This used to happen. Is this a bug now?"
Good sir, i have this Windows extension that searches the registry and finds ANYTHING instantly, just by typing a few letters. It's called Everything Search, my workflow has become a lot faster since
I feel like the stability & speed issues were the big things that makes me switch partly to Resolve. But the other thing is that when I need to color grade a project deeply, I know I will need the tools of Resolve to do so. Having a great way to go from PP to Resolve grading panel would be the ultimate thing but there is no chance it will happen.
Is there a library feature on Premiere where I can upload and easily access assets that I use on every project? Cuz I'm seeing a library feature on Prem. but it looks like it's just for their cloud assets
Too little too late Matty. I have been a professional filmmaker who relies on software over 8+ years. The creators I respect a tonne were all moving to DaVinci & I had the same thoughts as others. "Nah, I have all assets in Premiere, my knowledge is in Premiere I can't learn new software" etc etc.
But the price, stability, the software is very easy too learn. The tutorials like Casey & Mr Alex Tech & Waqas Qazi are breaking the learning curve down.
As company, I just don't like Adobe. They have never listened. Black magic are class leading and to be honest, it's refreshing in post production in DaVinci. Add to boot, colour grading is bloody fantastic. Rant over! Cheers mate
Couldn't agree more. What blackmagic has given people with this software for free is insane. And their cameras are awesome. World class company. Adobe not so much....
Thanks so much for all of this! I have 2 super simple requests aside from the obvious already mentioned:
1. Bring back the older (previous) export menu, the one in media encoder. The new one is rubbish! More prone to crashing, and makes exporting MUCH slower. Before I could simply tap CTRL+M twice and it would send the selected sequence straight to Media Encoder. Now I need to click "export". I also hate having to go into a completely different tab, it always freezes and looks like its going to crash. The old pop up window was great!
2. Add more colors to the label/grouping. And make the Nested clips a unique color. No sense that you make it Forest, otherwise you'll just get confused as to what is nested and what has simply been labelled as forest.
3. When working with RAW footage, it would be MUCH easier to be able to select the color space/profile, ISO and all that and copy it to other clips. It makes no sense that I have to go to each clip individually to change these settings. I wish I could just copy the new selected settings and be able to apply it to all of them. Or, simply add this settings menu to Lumetri color so I can apply it via the adjustment layer.
4. Allow multiple video and audio files to be synchronized rather than just one at a time.
5. The older text editor was superior in every way! Bring it back and improved! It's only downside was it's instability and also it wouldn't always remember the changes when copied and pasted onto other texts, so you would have to manually change the settings again quite often.
More things came to mind as I wrote this.
Hi Matt, do you know if it's possible to import a Premiere project into Resolve and keep most of the work we did in Premiere building multi clips and synching zoom audio with video?
It almost feels criminal where they don't allow you out of the annual contract for creative suite without charging you an early termination fee and seemingly the only point at which you can terminate without the 'fine' is something like a 30 period when the licence is up for renewal. This is just plain wrong and one of the reasons I'll never go back. I only got out of the fee because I told them my employer already had a licence for me so I didn't need the personal one too.
Compared to Da Vinci, Adobe has a lot of ground to make up - the noise reduction tools and mask tracking in Da Vinci is so much better. I'm on the edge of switching. I had used Da Vinci as a color grade tool for a while before Da Vinci got good with editing as well, but since the modern Lumetri panel, I've made Premiere work for me for everything. But for all your reasons you've stated, I'm on the fence about switching.
Resolve certainly has issues but to be able to simply tab from (the equivalent of) Premiere to AE to Audition is beauty for a workflow.
the stabilization is leagues better also
Please don't all switch to Davinci Resolve. 😱 This is for professionals with a trained eye. Soon there will be too much competition from videos with the sharpest image and the best color range.😀 Just keep working with a collection of expensive loose and unstable programs. Otherwise you will get too much free time. For a video catalog program we would pay €349. However, this turned out to be per year. We recently found out that with DaVinci's media pool, we can do almost the same thing. It all saves a lot of money, but it is especially great every day to be able to work with such a well-thought-out video package. A package with tabs, so everything is in 1 program.🏆
BTW, After all these many years, only now is Adobe panicking? They should have looked at the customer much sooner, who was going crazy with the instability. Apart from all other problems.
Do the change, you will never go back, resolve its way ahead on performance and stability, the color grading panel its waaay beyond what adobe offers and is one time payment, I really don't think they can catch up with resolve at this point
Great stuff Matt! As a past semi-insider, my perception (which could be completely wrong) was that Adobe tended to focus on trying to develop new specialty tools and shiny updates over repairing and rewriting problem spots that were known issues because there was no new money in old problems. There would be unanimous agreement from the engineers that certain areas had problems, but then there was no allocation of people and resources to fix it. So patches were placed over things that needed overhauling so they could focus more on rolling out "the next big thing." It is the overlooked UI and instability issues that beat us up on every project and cause us to want to chuck Adobe out of the window. Keep talking to them and remind them, that the bells and whistles only matter after the main engine runs smoothly and reliably... our time and our paychecks depend on it. We just want the product to work. Big question... are they going to dedicate enough people and resources to actually fix the root issues that plague our workflows or just talk about making things better while pursuing the newest trend in AI manipulation or other shiny marketing piece? I love/hate Adobe products and I just want them to be the best they can be. Thanks
I would be happy if they paused new development for a year and only worked on stability and bug fixes. Get through 15 years of technical debt before moving forward. Premiere would be great if it worked as advertised.
Spot on!
I have experienced several struggles with exporting my footage since the last update. It always looks desaturated and more greenish after I exported and I tried so many things but could not fix it. Would you happen to have any advice, since I found this problem several times mentioned online - also from other creators.
After a recent bout of crashes I was told by them that the program needs a min of 32gb of ram to edit my 4k clips. My newish iMac is only 8gb… Can they make PP with lower ram requirements? Would rather not change computers just to run this program.
Hopefully this results in some improvements. Been on DaVinci since 2019 and haven't looked back.
But I still use Adobe at work, and I absolutely HATE HATE HATE the new UI with the import/export panels. A ton more clicks for the same task for absolutely NO reason.
Agree with all your ponts: 1 point to add:
Retrain/re-educate their forum/complaint monderators.
The number of times I've gone on an Adobe forum where it's clear a lot of people have the same issues and the moderators first response is condescending and indicating the user did wrong and they shouldn't have gone about their edit that way, or who does that, this applies to premiere pro as well as all Adobe creative apps, Photoshop, illustrator, etc
So much this, its not just premiere pro, its AE, Indesign, Illustrator, like I should not be getting visual artifacts on such an expensive peice of software on a year old computer.
Yesterday I was editing a 30 seconds reel and stopped working when I wanted to export. I have been using Adobe for a while, but I will definitely stop a month from now. I would like to know what to do to my presets, where and how can I download the. on my computer.
Our whole team is moving to Davinci for an upcoming doc we're putting together.
Outside of music remixing there is going to be very little we will need Adobe to do. With Resolve's new close captioning beta that allows for editing based on text, it's just a whole new piece of evidence that contributes to what most are already saying here; Davinci is thrashing Adobe in customer feedback and it might be too late for Adobe to recover. And this is coming from a team of editors that have worked in Adobe for years. But broken dynamic linking, poor stability and render speeds, abysmal color correction, inaccuracies in the export, and a customer service program that boils down to "get a better computer" have put such a bad taste in the mouth of editors and colorists. It's a nice sentiment that Adobe extended this olive branch, but Resolve has been too proactive for them to catch up anytime soon.
Good luck on the move, it took me a little over a year to move my team to davinci and I’m still waiting for my co-producer to fully adopt davinci so I can drop down to the photographer package, even if I’ll miss AE, which is still one of my favorite compositing tools, flaws and layers and all.
They should make a decent color management system. Premiere will never replace Resolve when it comes color grading of course, but basic color management done with mathematical calculations instead of just using LUTs is a must for me (also given the infinite amount of different camera profiles we have nowadays).
Am i the only one looking for this kind of features?
I would love to see AI based color grading. Sometimes I just need to adjust a person's skin tone or eye color, or their hair has green cast from the grass. I could fiddle with mathematical calculations and complicated interfaces or Premiere Pro can make it easy for us all.
Yeah color management is a must. Color space transform etc...
IF they want to compete with Davinci... well these are the points I have for them:
1. as you told them, price - don't make creators a prisoner of monthly payments.
2. Color grading - they have to give more respect to color grading via better interface and features.
3. Make premiere a complete editing program - Put AE inside Premiere and don't make me pay twice for a complete program.
4. Bonus - make a free version of premiere.
That's what I have in mind.
Is AE in Davinci?
If professionals can’t afford $30 a month, I dunno what to say lol
@@_STNML No but they have the Fusion Window. That's why Davinci is killing Prem. It's pretty much Prem, AE (not quite like for like but you can do most things) and Audition in one. Plus it has way better color grading features. Kind of a no brainer. I still use both by the way, as I like dynamic link and the caption features in Prem.
@@_STNML Why pay $30 A MONTH when you can get something better for free FOR EVER?
@@_STNML That's $30. per month, every month, forever, versus, $300 one time payment forever. Easy to do the math to choose the far better value.
I would like to know why, when I bought the workstation/graphics card I needed in order to run CUDA acceleration, they now don't support it? Also I am getting warnings now saying 'Camera Raw will soon require graphics acceleration, when they have made a high end graphics card obsolete?
Hey Matt, One more problem with Premiere Pro from a devoted editor on PP - why is my timeline being duplicated every time I drag a clip onto the timeline? I purchased a second disc but the problem persists?
Frustrated in Hawaii.
Integration of the Adobe AI Podcast would be great in Premiere. Perhaps even an intensity slider as sometimes it can be a bit much and inaccurate with certain noisier clips. Similar to the Voice Isolation feature in FCPX.
That would be amazing. I understand that it may require a beefy graphics card to process AI; but if Adobe lets us know what types of hardware would be compatible that would at least give us the ability to do our own processing on site, with the option to upload files to Adobe if a user’s hardware isn’t up to the task.
Appreciate the work you're doing Matt. One thing I'd like Premiere to revamp is their key framing interface in Effect Controls. As an After Effects user, I understand the fundamental of it, but I just hate how it's trapped in that cramped little window and is just generally fiddly to work with. Speed ramps should be easy. Maybe they should be set up as pre-sets? But along with zooms, they're difficult to execute in Premiere when they shouldn't need to be.
Your original Resolve video prompted me to test it for the first time. The quality and usability of that product that users receive straight out of the box, free of charge, is unrivalled. The next generation of editors who learn at home will cut their teeth on Da Vinci. I had a play with a little stabilisation and wow - I thought the Warp Stabiliser was good. Adobe - you need to adapt fast.
Key framing and time remapping is one my biggest time killers. I echo this
Same here, every time I need to ramp in Premiere Pro I have to watch a tutorial to remember how it's done, while learning ramping in After Effects only took me 5 minutes 15 years ago and I'll never forget how to do it because it's so easy and intuitive.
Yuuuuuuuuuup.
hey Matt, thank you for this video. Very informative. I'm an American editor in France, and although I have a pretty "okay" grasp on the French language, I still rely heavily on Premiere's Pro, Voice to text feature to translate videos. My work flow is I transcribe the video in French, export the .SRT into Google Docs, and use Google's translation feature to translate in English. I think this should be more explored on Adobe's end. A feature that allows for language translation inside of Premiere Pro. Without sacrificing on sequence (timeline) speed. Thank you for reading this, and keep up the great work.
Thank you Matt for your honest reviews. I actually came here after I watched your other video as I was so fed up with Premiere crashing all the time. It's several times a day on my 8K footage. I can't even produce proxies for these files without it crashing. I really do hope Adobe can fix it, but at the moment so much of my time is lost that I really contemplating switching.
Please can you pass on that when they are making changes to improve stability, make sure it happens on ALL systems. Most of the stability issues I hear from people using Premiere are pretty much all Apple users, yet I have a mid to high tier PC and have barely had any crashes at all, yet Davinci crashes for me all the time. The last thing I want to see is Apple getting all the stability which takes it away from PC users.
Thank you for passing on our messages to Adobe, we really appreciate you trying to help the community as much as you can 😄
I find premiere much much more reliable on my mac studio than my top spec pc
@@davidpayne6544 You seem to be one of the rare ones then haha
Premiere is much more stable on my Mac than PC. And I have an insanely powerful PC.
My pc is true high end, running Windows. Last year’s After Effects and Premiere crashed so much I went back to the most stable ever releases of those two programs, which was CS6. Now I’m exclusively using Resolve, and AE CS6. They really screwed those of us who paid for perpetual license ($1200) and ended up paying more over the course of a few years than what we paid for perpetual ( I cancelled them after spending more than $3500 in CC fees. I’ll NEVER GO BACK! Resolve Studio meets our editing needs. What’s more, not paying for Adobe has saved me money. Instead of spending the money on Creative Cloud, I made the leap into Blackmagic’s hardware. In fact, purchasing a Resolve Editing Keyboard, a Micro Panel (for color correction), and 2 Speed Editors (1 for Mac and 1 for PC) cost less than the last 7 years of CC, and still had enough left over for an Atem Mini Extreme ISO switcher. Thanks Adobe for forcing me to a more reliable and more supported platform.
Get studio driver not the gaming one. Last time I run a 600 gig project for one week without ever turning off my PC or closing davinci 😅
Like you said, price is an issue but they made so much from switching to a subscription model than they probably won't change anything but the biggest issue I have with adobe is the subscription model. It's insane to be forced to pay every year for minor upgrades, if that. I'd much rather upgrade when I feel the new software is going to benefit my work. Been lucky that I haven't had a premiere pro crash in years. I plan to switch to DaVinci just for the savings once I get used to using it.
How on earth do you manage to use Premiere without constant crashes? I’ve been using it for about 15 years now and I run into crashes more now than I did when it was known as Creative Suite. It crashes on me every single project I work on without fail.
@@vizualjockey4419 I honestly have no idea. It used to crash constantly when I first started using it. Then one day it just started working all the time. I try not to jinx it haha.
Hi Matt! I know it's only been two months since this video, but have you seen any improvements to Premiere? I'm a lite video editor but am aspiring to invest more of my time getting into the app... if it is getting better. Thanks for your video!
First of all thanks for sharing this experience with us and allowing us to be part of your feedback.
I actually felt kind of surprised when you mentioned speed as one of the main weaknesses. It handles pretty much well working with the majority of high-end cameras in the market. Blackmagic raw feels like butter to me on my M1 Pro MacBook.
The major issues, according to my experiences with the software are related to color. First of all, how come hasn’t Adobe already fixed the color fidelity on export. It works fine in most cases for me, but I feel scared whenever I work on a project that I need to use QT Gamma Compensation, it’s 2023.
Still in color, Lumetri feels like a joke compared to the resolve capabilities. We don’t have a stable CST. I want to use multiple color spaces and gammas for timeline and output, just like I’m able to do in DaVinci. We do have input LUTs, but the primaries adjustments work after that, which makes no sense. Sure, I can add multiple lumetri effects, but I don’t really want to stack lots of them in order to make my primary grade simply non destructive. Otherwise, if the input lut blows my highlights, there’s no turning back.
Another thing that bothers me a lot is mask tracking. Adobe added this feature a few years ago and it seems like it didn’t upgrade it ever since. It’s slow and it doesn’t do the job at all. It would be great to have at least a start point when animating masks in Premiere instead of manually making it from the scratch.
Another point is about time remapping and transform in the same clip. Whenever you time remap a clip you can’t animate transform keyframes anymore. The same goes to warp stabilization and scale.
I’ll be over soon, Matt. I swear. I’d just like to finish talking about working faster. Adobe could expand the features we’re able to assign effects to. I’d be very convenient to assign an keystroke to change scale, position, rotation, warp stabilizer, lumetri and others. I did that with an extension (shoutout to Excalibur), but it’d be way better whether it worked within the software.
My last but not least suggestion goes towards creating proprietary panels just like Blackmagic have amazingly well done.
I’d love to work only in the Adobe environment. But it’s impossible to achieve the same results among the other competitors in the market. I still have hope though.
Thanks again for the space. And good luck with this next step!
color was always my biggest issue with premier as well, which is ironic since light room color is fantastic, but premier color, things always look, just, wrong somehow, for that reason I always exported timelines to resolve before doing any color back when I was a premier guy. Haven't touched premier in years though, so who knows, maybe the color is not as bad as it used to be?
@@Dane_Casperson I also tend to rather dealing with colors in DaVinci. But I recur to Premiere in smaller projects that clients don’t have the budget for a proper color grading workflow. Premiere has improved so far, however DaVinci is still years ahead.
Thanks for telling Adobe how we feel as editors. Lower the price or fix the bugs is huge for our community. We constantly joke about Adobe crashing, weird timeline render issues, and dropping entire timelines into new sequences to fix errors. We love the creative suite but not at the price it’s at right mow
Thank you for looking out for the community.
One thing I would like to see is native support for x-rite color checkers. I know there are plug-ins, but this just seems like an oversight to me. Thank you.
I love how DR just broke the monopoly and now Adobe has to work hard to compete. That's how things should work.
My question for Adobe would be - why did it take a RUclips video to evaluate what the problems are and what needed to be done? Shouldn’t there be internal reviews, performance qualifications? I think they focused on new bells and whistles and not the core need that must always be maintained - stability. Crashing and losing work costs time and money and creates a lot of stress. I’m sure it is a difficult challenge being so open to various hardware configs. Maybe take a bit ( a bit) of the Avid approach and qualify a few specific system specs on initial releases and expand out with updates. Im not super familiar with premiere but they seem to have the opposite problem from media composer. Media composer is pretty solid but lacks innovation (they literally don’t have a functioning title tool after 6 years of development and just recently restarted development on it).
Your initial video captured my concerns precisely. For me, personally, it's the combination of the technical issues along with the high monthly subscription cost that leads me to switch to DaVinci Resolve. And as someone who volunteers time teaching media production at a high school, I'll be recommending that they switch all the production courses in the county school system to DaVinci Resolve, too.
And this is how it starts. Once schools start to switch to another platform, the writing is on the wall. This comment should really get their attention!
Yup--the big institutions will probably keep Adobe afloat for a while, but when they start moving away, I can't imagine Adobe will survive.
Great stuff Matt. One thing I'd love to see is more integration of the AE tools into Premiere, similar to how they've been adding lots of tools from Audition. Things like: one click to turn on motion blur for graphics, better tracking tools, etc. Also, stealing Devinci's autosave system, but in a way that doesn't create 4TB of cache files every 30 seconds. That would definitely make me consider switching back for commercial work
Duh right!?
Update the warp stabilizer to have keyframes for smoothness and warping levels, etc, so you can adjust them for different parts of a shot... and allow stabilization and speed changes on the same clip!
yeah that was another issues... make a change nest... wanna do something else better nest it. OMG how irritating.
Thanks Matt! I hope they improve soon, I really don't want to leave Adobe but I've been considering it for the past few months. The main thing that has kept me is just being too lazy to learn a new software when I'm already behind on editing. Appreciate what you do for our community of videographers!
Resolve is super easy to learn if you have any experience with NLE's, Premiere is a nightmare in comparison.
We also need:
• Timeline preview and final export colors/grade to match, so we don't need to apply a gamma compensation lut on everything
• Improved lumetri color algorithms or something, because at least with slog3, adding saturation and adjusting curve usually results in green/yellow skin tones that are impossible to correct....this issue isn't present if you use Magic Bullet Colorista or if you just color in Davinci
• I guess this just falls under stability, but specifically, dynamically linked AE comps randomly unlink or cause premiere to crash, not acceptable
• To be able to hit the enter key from the export screen to send to media encoder
• Better integration between Illustrator and After Effects for converting vectors to shape layers so that layer names carry over at least, but it would be great if effects like roughen in illustrator didn't have to be burned in in AE and cause the creation of a ton of points
For me at least, the biggest thing that might get me to leave for Davinci is the color issues, because as it stands the solutions to that are to further complicate my workflow and pay for and use Davinci for color or paying for a Red Giant subscription to use Colorista, the obvious cheaper and simpler option is to just use Davinci and dump Premiere....although my heavy need for After Effects prevents that!
came here to say the same thing about the color space issues on export. We should be able to adjust those settings, like you can in Resolve, and not have to rely on a Gamma Comp LUT that gets you "Almost" there.
this this this, why can't we rely on one to one color match from timeline to export. Its wild
this
Timeline color to match export! Yes. Why would you not do this in the first place as default????!
Thanks for this!! You've already covered it, but speed and stability are HUGE. It's crazy to be on a screamin' MB Pro and Premiere sometimes literally can't keep up with my editing actions.. even with proxies!! So close to jumping ship, but this gives us a little hope.
I own a 4Runner at the moment but had a Silverado - I love both - I think this choice would be pretty hard for me.I think the new gen 2024 taco will be a better comparison.
The only thing that's keeping me locked into premiere is multicam. The content i make is dependent on it. If it weren't for multicam I would switch to a free software in a heartbeat due to all the other issues. I'm running on an older version of premiere as upgrading destoyes performance. Even with my 3080ti. I can't seem to scrub on the timeline without having to wait 10's of seconds for it to load, let alone play the clip. (I edit in 1080p)
Thanks for speaking for us all, the fact that they flew you guys out speaks volume. As a company that thrives on our quick turnaround time, speed is everything. Keep pushing for us Matt!
While I still use Adobe Prem Pro myself, the only thing that speaks volumes is the fact that they are trying to recouperate/save face from getting eviscerated by creators over their unreasonably unstable application, the problems with processing, scrubbing speeds, and constant garbage/non-helpful updates, while charging and exhorbanant amount of money for an application that other Applications have done better job at for less money. I know I am a super small creator, but have been debating about switching myself, and honestly this video when you actually listen indicates that Adobe is really just "pretending" to care about its users, Matt may have geniunly felt honored to get flown out there, but you have to look at their actions and intentions, over their fake platitudes and their lack of actual keeping to prmoises of the past. Essentially I am not going to believe someone (a company) who's word hasn't been true up to this point. There is a reason why in the past it was said, "Your word is your bond", it meant when you said you would do something, you would do it or die trying. All I see them doing is putting up a facaed that they care and that they are going to improve, fake words and intentions...
Amazing. As much as I'm not a fan of Adobe's pricing model, it's fantastic that they're showing interest in receiving feedback. My biggest issue with Premiere Pro is it seems unnecessarily complex to do tasks like key frames, etc. As a beginner, I've recently decided to switch to learning Davinci Resolve, since the entire workflow is all contained in one application and just seems more intuitive and user-friendly on many levels. So Price and User-friendliness are things I would like to see improvements on.
They are not. They only responded to influencers and try to manage PR.
To be ultimately flexible with the tools around you is a must with film making and to produce the same quality videos using a free software is a killer. I'm not a pro when it comes to video editing but the features from free version of Davinci is plenty to play around with to get quality content out there.
these days people just lease or buy a new truck every few years anyway so it likely won't matter to them - this is what the car companies want. Just like cell phones they don't want them to last. Interesting to see if Toyota reliablity remains after the news gens join the current decade of tech and emissions requirements.
The colour grading is magnificent in davinci. That is the biggest feature that I have spoken to all my creative friends about that pushes them to use davinci as it plays such a big part in the filmmaking world. If they made it as good as davinci, i’d be happy to stay using the software
I have a couple things.
When recording voiceovers directly into PP, why can you not set it to go to a specific folder? It always goes into the main bin, which makes the whole project messy to deal with.
When dealing with the graphics panel, if you copy and paste text/shapes etc it always goes to the top of the stack, rather than like PS or AI, where it pastes it directly above of the copied layer. If you have a transition applied to your graphics and you copy paste a text layer, it goes above the transition and you have to move it down below - painful! And on the graphic panel, great idea but the 2-3 sec delay every time you click on a text/graphic layer is also a massive pain.
The only real issue I have with Adobe Premiere Pro is this: When I color grade a clip and export it, there is a huge gap between in PP and the rendered file. Even with the gamma correction LUT stays a significant difference. Today I considered the first time changing the software, because colors really matter for me.
It's the simplest thing, make the editing look like the final export.
Numerical values under the color wheel and curves sections of lumetri. Granular changes are difficult with just sliders and points. I know this is possible because Davinci has this feature. this would also help greatly with the HLS secondary tab, as I use this to pick out certain hues that my camera censor did not do a great job at capturing accurately. Without specific values it is time consuming to barley move the little points on the color bar just right until you have the desired color selected. Lumetri is a powerful tool if used properly, but has limitations when trying to use it for professional color grading and with this small addition could bring them a lot closer to the competition.
Still sticking with Davinci Resolve - even plan to upgrade to the paid version since it's just a one-time payment. Adobe's perpetual subscriptions are ridiculous. Let users buy your product Adobe, not just rent it.
100% Agree!!
You will own nothing and be happy!
I tried leaving but... Davinci free version is super slow even on my Dell Xps 9370 i7. I have no idea why?
Thanks Matt! A bit too late for me personally. I complained for soooo long about certain changes and didn’t even bother complaining about stability issues. Now on Davinci and really happy. The only way that I will ever look in the direction of Premiere is if I know that Adobe rewrote the whole app from ground up. It looks old, feels old and behaves old. As I wrote on Adobe forum, it feels that all the changes and “innovations “ are done only to justify the monthly subscription fee. After updates/changes to the export workflow I realized that I feel nauseous every time I open Premiere and switched to Davinci.
100% with you. They been informed by all issues every month on their forums but didn't give a damn for many many years. It's built on an old and slow foundation. They would probably need to rewrite ALOT of code to make it better than resolve. Davinci is so much better and faster in all aspects. Adobe hasn't had any competitors for several years which made them ignorant and lazy.
@@mattiasnilsson9138 What they did with all the creators whom they brought there is Adobe Circus. Sad thing is that Matt is trying to convince his subscribers that things are gonna change. Adobe has got many other things on their minds to continue making money. I’m 100% sure that they put as many developers as they can now on Firefly. Who cares about Premiere. They obviously don’t see the point of throwing fists in the air AFTER the NLE battle is lost. On the other hand they will try to milk this dying revenue stream for as long as they can. They should either kill the app and rewrite it or give in for 1$ a month subscription to those who like cheap thrills.
Stability and performance is #1 area that needs improvement. That being said, Premiere is ahead on some things, specifically for auto generating captions. Their updates to text based editing is great and I would love to see big advancements to AI features over the next year. For example- AI should be able to examine my previous projects, then intelligently come up with a rough cut on a new project. No idea how the AI would work exactly but that’s for the engineers to figure out! Photo is already way ahead in this area, can have full wedding galleries culled and colored in minutes 😊
Curious what program you use for your wedding galleries? I mostly do video but sometimes I have to shoot photos, and it would be awesome to apply settings like that to everything at once
@@TheArberndt there is no fast and loose method, you might still have to make changes even after applying same settings to all pics.
I use Imagine AI for quick pic editing in minutes.
Wonder Studio. a bit different type of AI for video but AI for video nevertheless.
waiting for best export settings premiere 2023 because some days i got good quality with that settings after some days that settings also not working in youtube can you create video on best settings for youtube
This earned my sub. Super respectable effort and work you're doing here for us. Thank you
Hi Matt, here's a greeting from Italy.
In addition to the problems already mentioned by you, I add these improvements:
1) I really wish Premiere had a professional color grading section like Davinci.
2) I would like to have the ability to do mask tracking like After Effects, even in Premiere Pro so as to avoid switching between them and be much faster and more productive.
Awesome! This means DaVinci is really cutting on their market enough for them to do something. I don't like premiere and probably never use it but more competition is always better for us
Thank you very much on behalf of those who dont have as big of an influence to be able to voice these consistently frustrating issues!
Why do I have to subscribe to another service to find mete basic transitions since Premiere Pro only has fades and things from 3 decades ago?
They should either
1. Bring back speedgrade or
2. Work on their color tools.
Most of the video editors leaving (including myself) it's the limited color tools we have in Lumetri. It's still feels like a basic video editor for beginners. They need to rework, introduce new and improved color systems for full time color graders cause the XML exporting is let's be honest, a round trip. 😂
Hey Matt! Thanks so much for this! You’re surely representing all of us!
Feedback for Adobe:
1) To allow us to take a control over the color space. Currently, the options are too limited and if we could get options to choose output color spaces and gamma, it would help a lot!
2) Adobe always exports at Rec.709 Gamma 2.4 (SDR). This is a problem for Mac users as it results in washed out videos. This is reaaaaalllly frustrating. Ik there’s a Quicktime LUT but that solves only 70 % of the problem. DaVinci solved this by letting us choose a variant called Rec.709-A as output. Appreciate it if Adobe can do that as well.
3) Scene Edit Detection is still not the best. Improvements in AI technology can be done I believe to improve its accuracy.
4) Some improved form of stabilisation maybe? That doesn’t force us to go to After Effects and do tracking. Warp stabilisation can only work in very mundane straight forward cases.
- will add more to this list if needed. 😋
Thanks again!
Do you know any full feature movies edited in Resolve?
I've used Resolve for 3 years now I do miss Premiere Pro this decline in people using the software has been going on for sometime now. I'm so glad I found this video and things might be getting brighter for my good old adobe friend.
Hi Matt - I was all set to leave BUT then I saw the latest version and all those Ai built in features like transcribe, caption, remix (for music tracks to fit a sequence) auto colour correct, auto audio levels and I realised that for workflow for web based videos its starting to make a real difference to workflow. So I've place a foot back in the Premiere Pro camp
Except half of those features crash all the time. Transcribing, albeit a nifty feature, turned out to be a big headache as it doesn’t save your transcriptions in the project file, and saving attempting to export anything more than 5 minutes results in a crash and loss of work. I’ve legitimately lost clients because I told them I could get it done in a certain amount of time, and the crashes led to an extra day of fixes as I had to go back and do it manually. It made more sense just to pay someone else to do it while I worked on the edit.
I've never had stability problems with any of these features. What machine are you on? What footage are you working with? Where have you set your scratch disks? On and most importantly are you using proxies?
I edit 90% with Davinci but then come back to Adobe just to use these new features
This one is a long shot, but I work with a huge community of musicians creating their own music videos, VFX, and often graphics for album art and SO many rely on great tutorials, support, and tools from folks like yourself. Will Adobe explore MORE cost-accessible options for Premiere, AE, or 1-time purchases for those who won't be able to justify CC subscription? Premiere Elements might be the only way I can suggest Adobe products to newer creators who know the software, but aren't invested in subscription software.
Thanks again for pushing everyone's feedback to Adobe 🎉
Hello, I’ve been editing with Premiere for about 14 years now and editing using Premiere is my full time job. I agree whole heartedly for speed and stability! Thank you for that sir! The other things for me is I would like to see their motion tracking technology to be more advanced. With what is already in the program, and to see some of the tool is After Effects to be available inside Premiere. Also I would like them to keep innovating the Lumetri color. I love it but I would like to see more advanced grading tools added for color selection, and matching. Right now the AI matching tools do not seem to work as well as advertised.
I would love for premier pro to have a video noise reduction feature like neat video offers and a more powerful color panel.
Hello MATT
I think adobe should improve more on the color space where lot more can be put in to it
Da Vinci is far ahead them especially the cloud transformation stuff
Thank you Matt
I enjoy Premier and won't be switching any time soon. A feature I would love to be added: an integrated Time Log Monitor Extension tracking time spent on each project. It would open upon launch of each project, and would include dates, hours, minutes it is open, a log of render times, a section to add comments specific to each project. This would be helpful for editors in keeping track of time invested per project, billing customers fairly, estimate production/delivery timelines and measure project/time management. Sure there external apps that can do this, but if this feature runs in the background within Premier, it is one less thing that makes me a better editor and business owner..... just a thought. Thanks Matt
This is awesome and fascinating. I was about to switch myself. 😀 Thanks for the follow up. It is a little comical they asked for feedback when there are hundreds of videos on it.
this probably won't get seen at this point, but one thing that drives me nuts still is Adobe exports looking different in saturation and contrast from how it looked in the edit. I have to compensate by over saturating and playing with other values to make it look in the export the way it does in my edit.
An aspect that I absolutely love in Resolve but haven't seen mentioned yet is the how they organize the video properties for each individual clip, such as Compositing, Speed Ramping, Dynamic Zoom, Stabilization. It's so much easier and convenient versus what's offered in Premiere.
Agreed, surely they can resolve the issue of having to create nest upon nest!
Too little too late. People have been moaning for about a decade. I cancelled my subscriptions years ago.
The biggest complaint and what Adobe will not fix is the Subscription model. I like that I paid $350 for Davinci Studio and now I'm good for a few years. Adobe will never change that, and I don't see them leapfrogging Black Magic enough to suck me back into their subscription. I pay $15 a month for Photoshop and Acrobat and honestly, I'd like to find alternatives for those too.
Hi Matt, did Adobe Premiere Pro give any technical advice with regards to duplication of their timeline, with every clip insert? I have 2 discs (PPRO CS4 WIN RET UE 001 DV) which do the same thing! Any help appreciated and a contact email would be ideal? Hopefull Mary
Are they going to be competitive with their pricing? That's the most important thing to me.
I think one thing they could easily improve would be Premiere Elements. Give people a way to do proper color correction.
The Elements programs are a great idea, but they could stand to be a bit more robust. Remember, Resolve has a free version that does a lot. If Adobe wants to charge $100 or so for Premiere Elements, it should be at least as robust as the free version of Resolve.
Honestly, I would pay for the full version of Resolve if more cameras supported Blackmagic RAW.
Agree. I found more affordable alternates to every program I used to use in the Creative Suite.
@Mark D. Hall I use RawTherapee instead of Lightroom, GIMP instead of Photoshop, Scribus instead of InDesign, Inkscape instead of Illustrator, etc. I use the free version of Resolve instead of Premiere as well. It's 100% about money for me as a hobbyist. Buying camera gear and a capable computer is expensive enough without having to pay huge monthly prices for software on top of that...especially since no one is paying me. I just do this stuff for fun. The $54.99 per month I save on software is money I can use for a new lens or to travel somewhere interesting to film.
I know that's probably not gonna happen, but imo they should team up with blackmagic instead of seeing them as the competitor and create an interface between Davinci and premiere. Davinci is unmatched for its color grading tools. I'd still be using premiere if the color grading workflow would be easier. I switched completely to Davinci over a year ago, but I often miss editing in Premiere tbh. But the convenience of having everything in one place overweights the small little inconveniences that i experience every know and then editing in Davinci. Also if blackmagic would come up with a photoshop and Lightroom alternative, I'd cancel my Adobe subscription immediately.
I would love if Blackmagic did this, I would but it and cancel my lightroom subscription right away.
Someone that works for me filmed on a Komodo and I needed to use Resolve to grade the footage. For $395 you get a hardware speed editor and the software! Then I got to see the BM hardware wheels in action. Having a physical editing keyboard, color wheels, and jog wheel is a game changer. You pair that with the built in color space transform options in Resolve and it’s actually quite fun to grade. No need to use LUTs ever again.