Buick Encore -Towed In, No Crank, No Communication - THE FIX
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In a previous video I had a look at a customer's 2018 Buick Encore that had the entire high speed data bus taken down by the rear differential module. Customer wants it fixed and the parts are here so let's find out if we were correct.
-Enjoy!
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By now you know there is more than one girl watching. I am a 76 year old girl who enjoys your videos. I don't work on cars, I just drive one. I have learned a lot as I watch you problem solve. Nice to see Mrs. O. Thanks for all the great videos.
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Girls rule!!!!
Thanks for Responding because GOD knows Mr. O. is Not Wrong very often. 😬👍
See Eric, there's several of us girls appreciating your help.
girl here! i was a bicycle mechanic before becoming a factory machinery mechanic. between your videos and my coworkers advice i kept my rusty 2002 cr-v alive despite constantly breaking until i could get something newer. no one taught me cars before a few years ago so thanks for your videos, ive learned a lot. as a mechanic i especially appreciate the persistent mindset you always have
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I trained some of the first Air Force female crew chiefs. Most do their job as well as any male. The few that failed, didn’t want to be a mechanic in the first place.
Good on you there are not many women mechanics in the industry i hope you are enjoying it.
Why in the hell do they put electronic modules under the vehicle, It makes no sense,I don't care where you live!
You are talking about engineering that's looking to support parts and service in the future. I'm sure they want you to buy new, but if you can't then throw a few hundred in parts and 3 times that much in service. We'll thought out by the manufacturer 😁😁😁
Well and it goes for the ECM as well ram Dodge and several other manufacturers put it out there by the motor where it gets wet too.. I used to work on furnaces years ago when the electronics first got going and they just they would have problems because they're in a hot cold damp environment inside of a furnace..
Its called "staying in business" they know your gonna need a new one in 3 or 4 years. Or kinda force you into needing one.
Its called "a design feature".
Things get soaked inside the car than you think. Its called condensation.
I hade a 88 chevy Beretta and its ecu got fried from water and it was under the dash. Water ran down the wiring and inside the box.
All if these electronics problems are not a problem on motorcycles and modern bike have sophisticated traction control systems with 6 axis gyros, engine management and abs systems. They're ridden in the rain mud, snow etc. Theres nowhere for condensation buildup on these vehicles like cars.
I’m a girl and watch all the time . Definitely learned a lot and saved my butt a couple times watching your videos .
woohoo... we love the ladies 🥰
You women go I think everyone who owns a vehicle should know the basic service information & be able to at least tell who ever is fixing their vehicle the symptoms of the problem when getting someone else to fix it.The more females learn how to fix there own the better I say.
Hey look guys we found her!
No wonder Eric finally said "and Girl "
Knowledge of how your vehicle works gives you confidence.
Girl here, watching and learning!
Yay!!!
best way to learn is to get an old car and tear it apart and put it back together
Me, too, I’m watching. 🙋🏼♀️
Totally Awesome.
And another girl as well. Love network diagnostics at SMA!!
Another girl here. I enjoy your videos and have learned much from you and Ray. Yesterday I had a no start no crank on my Jeep Liberty and determined the ignition switch was broken using your troubleshooting guide.. Able to fix it myself.
Girl/woman here. Engineer, loves cars. Retired. Got nothing better to do than watch RUclips. Love your videos.❤️❤️❤️
Yes, girl here.... I would guess there is more than one female who watches your channel. Been watching you for a couple of years now.
I'm a girl always watching.. so it's guys and Gals. Been watching you for 3 years. Ty great video as always
Gosh looking at the comments there must be at least ten of ya haha, guess I'll change it to gals 😂
Girl here, also watching.
I am a girl and always watching. Learned mechanics from my daddy many years ago on carb engines. Mr O is my second teacher of the new computerized engines...lol thanks Mr O! love from AZ ❤
Ha! My wife has it on her subscription, my excellent wife..
I'm with you girl. I was my dad's little helper too. Thank God for REAL DADDYS !!! And MOTHERS!!!
woohoo... we love the ladies 🥰
I can’t believe that I’m the only girl that watches you! But I am definitely one! Can’t wait to see each and every video you post!! I try to keep up with my vehicles, 2002 PT cruiser and a 1948 Chevy Panel Truck. Truck has a Jaguar suspension and a Chevy LS1 Corvette engine! Love all your videos! Thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge!
Eric is a cutie-pie, isn't he?
Eric, I had to laugh when you were talking about “all the men out there that watch your videos and perhaps a woman.” I honestly don’t know if you remember about a year ago I asked you to do a shout out for my wife, Stephanie.
I had told you that she is a big fan of yours. She loves watching your videos as well. So obviously if you weren’t talking about her being the “one woman“ then apparently there’s two lol Ron
Women who want to know about bad new and badly maintained used cars and how to avoid the worst pitfalls awaiting them in "today's" (shudder) car market are probably secret fans.
The ones of both sexes who buy their large appliances by which item has the lowest price and the shiniest "stainless steel" cladding, probably not.
My husband and I watch all your videos. It’s always great learning about car stuff.
I'm a girl and watch all the time! You and Mrs.O are my favorite you tubers. The insti, the facebook, (make sure you do the I and f with your fingers when you say it. I always do! ) If I can do it, you can do it. Thanks for watching! Love, love, love!
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I’m a girl and love to watch you fix cars
Im a DAV, just had my 19th surgery. An very young early 20's something nurse saw my Summit Racing Catalogs I brought to the hospital opened to LS Blocks and started talking to me about LS Engines and how she modded hers to get 150 more HP. The talk went to this channel as well. Girls May Wanna Have Fun, but they also turn bolt, get dirty and crank out HP. Girl Power!!!!!
Love the slogan on the Dorman box: "Dorman: N(ever) E(ever) W(worked) since 1918" lol
Dorman: Stranding motorists and frustrating technicians since 1918!
Now the girl here enjoy watching yourself also
Whenever I have a connector that is tough plugging in, i just smear a thin film of dielectric grease in the female side of the housing and it clicks right together nice and smoothly every time. You wouldn't think the rubber would bind up like it does but clean rubber against clean plastic just will not slide. Oh and as a bonus the grease provides a little more moisture resistance!
I guess I am that one girl!!! Love your work. Always look forward to new videos.
I'm girl and I love watching your videos. 😊
Another old girl here watching, love your channel Mr. O.
Thanks for the shout out to Royalty. I'm a subscriber now and they are close enough to me that I could get a car to them! I also bought Deoxit based on your comments. No need for my car but I did use it to fix some crappy connections in a little window unit AC. We have lots of those in FL. 😊
I used to be a die hard Chevy guy too. I've bought 5 brand new Chevy's in my life. Four years ago I bought a Toyota 4 Runner. Never going back. Not that I have the much time left.
I've owned Toyota, I had to get a bigger truck. My family got sprouted. More heads to feed.
I bought a GMC Terrible terrain. I wish I never bought. But I cleaned it up, cleared codes and sold it back to Gmc😅😅.
Bought a Sienna,
That's why we need higher tariffs, so that people like you will be punished for making sound rational decisions based upon what's best for you and your family.
I'd love to hear more of his thoughts on this, and what his preferences in terms of manufacturers are now, if he has any.
I used to be a diehard Toyota guy. The quality has gone to sht with their trucks and I'm no longer interested. If you haven't heard, 2022+ Tundras are eating crank bearings like the cookie monster eats cookies, and Toyota makes a point of being a scummy manufacturer and blaming you for their bad engineering.
@@hochhaul I do electric and transmissions as a specialty. The new Tacomas have incredibly weak transmissions. The torque converters in them are made of play doh, and their camera and accessory circuits have horrible insulation quality control and the modules for the cameras themselves are pathetic quality compared to what we expect out of Toyota. They still are probably the most consistent brand for quality, but they have taken a stark nosedive compared to their last 20-30 years.
I don't have brand loyalty because they all make great stuff, and they all make bad stuff. The newest generation of Colorados are amazing trucks and I have a ZR2. The quality is hands down the best in the category in my professional opinion, but the great irony is that the colorados before 23 were probably the worst truck ever made with the 3.6, trans, and electrical problems it was plagued with from start to finish. We could pick any brand and find a long history of greatness and failure.
I’m not a girl but I’m sure Eric, there’s more women getting into cars and technicians nowadays!! Always learning from you!!
Only one girl watching LOL. Mrs. O got some competition out here fellows. You guys are the best. I've learned so much, especially about troubleshooting these new cars. When I was younger I wanted to run my own shop like you have. Life happened though and now I'm a warehouse maintanance sup. Fixing machines is my thing now. I never thought I'd be here. They take care of me, that's all the matters. Thank you for the years of great videos.
Just another Chica watching you fix stuff.
To much electronic parts on vehicles now days. Good job Eric
You make it look easy the way you just narrow down the modules
With a proper scan tool. You can do it.
I bought a better scan tool and scope because of Eric and Ivan.
Breaking down a circuit into parts to narrow down the location of a fault is the number one technique in any systematic electrical or electronics fault finding. No matter if it's your hallway and kitchen lights at the house or a complicated data network. Figure out how the wires run and start splitting to see which part has the fault. Then split that again, until you've got the culprit. Of course knowing potential causes of a specific symptom is also necessary, like in this case "loss of communication could either be caused by faulty wires or by a faulty module" and knowing how to distinguish between the two, in this case measuring the circuit's resistance to rule out the physical wiring bit.
I was a gm guy for 50 years but in 2020 switched to Nissan trucks and couldn’t be happier
Better than current Toyota trucks. The Tacoma is now garbage imported from Mexico and the Tundra has been having engine failures for 3 years now and nothing done about it by Toyota aside from accusing owners of causing it and replacing only with a new short block and old parts, built by a tech at the dealer. $32k job if it's approved for warranty.
Nissan is the Chrysler of Japan lol
I have been a die hard GM too (about 55 years worth)but come June I will move on to Toyota. Can’t beat ’em join on up with them. 😜😁
I think the real GM is no longer around. Every part is outsourced and sold at high price.
Steer clear of the Tundra. The 2022+ Tundras have engines that blow up and Toyota will drag you through the coals before they approve the warranty work. $32,000+ job fyi. Toyota is not the company it once was.
@@Dr_Reason Neither is Toyota. the 3rd gen Tacoma was rated least reliable midsize truck by Consumer Reports 4 years in a row for engine issues, trans issues, howling and leaking rear diffs. All Tacomas are now imported from Mexico. The 2022-2024 Tundra are eating crank bearings and Toyota likes to play dumb and accuse you of causing the failure even though it's common knowledge that the engines are failing. The repair is $32k and they are not even replacing the engine with a new crate engine, but instead they send the dealer a block with pistons and crankshaft, and then tell the dealer to build an engine from potentially contaminated parts. Garbage company
I still say that you’re the BEST. I can’t do it because I do not have the brain or the scan tools that you have. But I do know that what you pay tens of thousands of dollars for is all junk. I will never buy a GM vehicle again. But that is what keeps the wolf away from your door. Keep on keeping on. Love your channel. Aaron from Canada.
HI Mrs. O. and you also Eric, Hey all your videos are good, I don't care what they are! Thanks Eric!
I've got tattoos from my Army years...hammer and chisel crossed and says if it don't fit force it and on the other arm crossed wrench and screwdriver and says if I can't fix it it ain't broke! Dr. O made me crack up!! 🤣😅 My wife hates both of the tats!!
I was a GM fan for many years. My 16 Acadia cured me of that !
Good job on the fix.
It’s a win!
I was a Chevy guy for a long time,
but no more, I moved on to Honda/ Acura.
Can’t say I regret it.
Great video Dr. O. Built in obsoletion just like our computers and mobile devices!
I replaced a transmission control module/valve body on an Equinox a while back. I called a bunch of independent shops to have it programed and no one could do it. I ended bring it to the dealer to have programed. I didn't want to go to the dealer, because of prior experiences. Surprisingly, they did a great job.
Good to see you use deoxit to flush out all the green corrosion out the way it was meant to be used .
Speaking of glare, when the electricity was out the other day, that video looked awesome with you just working by flashlight and screens.
I always find the rectification of the fault once established, closes the loop and completes the info. Not boring, but insightful.
Mr. O can perform in the dark, who knew. Great job.
Luna doesn't seem to know how lucky she is. Don't worry though she'll come around!
Thanks Eric for the Friday upload. Have a great Memorial Day weekend! 🇺🇸
I’m sure the steering is effected due to setting input / angle / data is used to determine how much power to end to rear wheels or something along those lines.
Glad you are using proper factory torque specs as I hear the double click.
Those dreaded factory specs… brought to you by lawyers.
You do know he is making the clicking noise? You aren't wrong about lawyers.
Great video as always... And from the comments below there are quite a few ladies watching your videos too !.and that's awesome. Only the best on SMA.
The follow-up videos are very much appreciated, no doubt. This channel is a new favorite, you've earned a sub.
As a DIYER, I hate the fact that all the modules need programming. I get the PCM, BCM, but the others can easily be self learning. That isn't a complex module that should need programming. Thanks Eric for making this video.
6:48 "torqued both of those back to spec" as he clicks his tongue had me dying
Long, long ago i to was a Chevy guy , now I’m 18:00 a Honda guy. Where did it all go wrong? Good video sir as always! I had the passenger presents code on my granddaughter’s car and i removed the connector and cleaned it , reconnected it and no return on the code for 6 months now.
"A long, long time ago
I can still remember how that music
Used to make me smile..."
Hey Eric,
I noticed that this video was up yesterday but it was unavailable to non-members of your channel and I was going to call your shop to let you know.......but I forgot. lol
When I hear you talk about the things that people bother you with, when your phone was ringing off the hook years back because people would call you for free advice, among other things, I just cannot fathom how inconsiderate people can be. It literally floors me.
You and Misses O., are great people and I really enjoy your videos, thank you for making them.
Read his description in the last video, he has it that way for a reason lol.
I work on small jets for Cessna and Pratt and Whitney calls out DeoxIT D5 to clean the wire harness on Jet Engines every 800 hours.
Nice job Mr. O! Canbus stuff gets confusing for me but I enjoy seeing your logic at work.
love that patented torque click.
Now i feel called out 😂
I had to tell them....Come to find out I was wrong thought. There are like 12 of you ladies haha
Hate to hear you don’t like Chevy’s as I have a 2024 Equinox LT, but appreciate your honesty and your chatter. Originally from Geneva NY but now from SUNNY, FL.
I owned GM products built in '57, 70, '74, 78, 82, 83, 90, 93, 96, 98, 02, 03, 04 (still have the 03 Sirrra and 04 Suburban) but the 2011 Enclave had enough problems for 10 cars. I've had 3 VWs since then, all great. Now my kid sells Toyota, so I'm about to develop a new brand loyalty.
Brand loyalty is moronic and Toyota trucks have been trash in recent years. The Tacoma is now an import from Mexico and was rated least reliable midsize truck by Consumer Reports for 4 years in a row, and the 2022+ Tundra has been having engine failures left and right, and Toyota frequently accuses the owner of being at fault even thought they know the crank bearings are failing due to bad engineering.
Hi eric, great video as ever. I'm a vehicle technician in the UK and with airbag faults with the seat airbags a lot of the time the connectors get bumped and then set codes. Most of the time you just unplug the connectors and reconnect them, then reset the codes.
Thanks Chris.
Be prepared to see many more Traxes and Encores in the future GM has a corrosion problem with the modules & also the differential cases corroding through. They have issued service bulletin's and are replacing the complete assembly under warranty only in Canada from what I understand. As i haven been told we in the U.S. don't require as much road salt. I had to replace the rear diff on my 2016 Trax to the tune of $3K. I filed a complaint with the NHSTA to no avail. Thanks for the great videos.
Interesting, you said one gal might be at least 2 gals? This is Jennifer from Michigan. Have been following you for several years now. Love your videos.
And yes you still are very expensive to watch as you show various must get tools as I'm a toolaholic... LoL
Nice clicker torque wrench. Never needs batteries
I love the time savings of the onboard torque wrench......the clicker needed to be a little louder.....good vid
I am impressed with the confidence you attack any problem you're presented. You approach the issues with knowledge you dillagently aquired from aftermarket and/or factory sources. How can anyone diagnose a problem without knowing how the system works? Thank you for displaying skills that are based on your experiance and the ability to use critical thinking to aid you in your diagnosis. I'm a retired mechanic, and I'm glad you're there to inspire future technicians.
Well done diagnosis and fix. Helpful to me since I have a 5 year old Trax, Encore's cousin. Gives me an idea of what working on it involves. Thankfully I don't have AWD.
I watch your channel a lot and am subscribed. I truly enjoy your knowledge and wit. The one thing that annoys me is in your intro when you mention the amount of females that may or may not be watching. If you come out of that cave you are living in, you will find that a tremendous amount of women not only work on vehicles, but also watch channels like yours. Keep up the good work.
Hey Eric, tech tip of the day. DeoxIT D5 is about $25.00 per 5. oz can. Spray a quick burst onto the contacts, it is not brake clean! If you can get it cheaper please let me know!
Amazon has it for $17.99 for the 5 oz can. Free shipping if you have Prime.
They used to carry it at my local parts store, but the last 2 yrs they haven't. High price = slow sales? I dunno. Anyhow yes I buy it through Amazon now. I dunno how else to get it.
Whenever I'm training new folks, I make it a point to drill into their heads: "GMs like naps." Got a code that won't clear even though you know the fault is fixed? Let the car take a nap. Car acting like it's posessed after programming? Let the car take a nap. GMs work hard, they need lots of sleep!
As for your passenger presence module issue, as long as you have the VIN in SPS2, might be worthwhile attempting a seat weight sensor calibration. These older bladder-style sensors fail quite frequently, and if they fail way into negative numbers, it can trip a false "internal failure" code. If you're bored, and live data is kind enough to give you an actual calculated weight value, sometimes you can even tease them back into calibration! :D
My trucks bladder developed a leak. It was all gooey. Thought I had a premature guns going off😅😅😅. But I'm on da hunt for a used bladder unit. My abs is staying on.
All good advice. I punched the seat bun a few times haha then did the calibration and it would not even complete. Was using the autel then tried again with GDS2 and same issue.
@@SouthMainAuto Yup, that bun is cooked! Fingers crossed that cushion isn't too expensive, if you can even find one. I'm told they can sometimes be rebuilt, but I have no personal experience with this outside of a customer having had his rebuilt on a 14 Nissan Rogue. I never was able to find out where he had it rebuilt, sadly.
@@SouthMainAuto dont blame gm.. blame the epa, greenies.. being in a 4x4 club, i see sensors sht, then its 1000 ks in limp mode.. cant be fixed..work mate had a gm statesman. v8, 90,s. he washed the motor, it stopped.. the oil sender dont like water.....
Nice one on networks and the interaction between modules
Girl power has spoken there is a lot of women viewers, keep up the good work
DeoxIT D5 is great stuff! I use it on switches for all the Radio's I rebuild. At 4:22, you said it all! I only buy Toyota or Honda now. This was a good one!! 👍
Not a girl, but I do tune into your channel with my Fiancee when she's reading, so that counts for something!
Been using DeOx-it for 40 years now, back when it was called Cramolin. I have yet seen anything that works better in all that time. Back then they just had red and blue. Red was for cleaning corrosion and blue was for new connections to prevent corrosion or for after using the red.
There had to be a ground loop thanks to the corrosion that affected the power steering. After working on Land Rovers for so long that is pretty much the first thing I look for. Defenders have the craziest grounds and you can see all kinds of problems.
great diagnosis and fix Mr O!
A PPS uses sensors to detect if someone is properly seated in the passenger seat and signals if the airbag should be enabled. However, a faulty PPS can cause the system to fail to recognize an occupant, which could lead to the airbag being improperly suppressed during a crash.
Possibly Steve Millers best song. +80 Streetcred Mr. O. We love to hear your little stories.
Sherwood at Royalty has some real quality videos, thanks to you and him and all the people like you.
Stay gold.
A note on Deoxit D, which I have been using in one form or another for 45 years. You don't need to flood the connector with spendy Deoxit--a little dab 'l do ya'. I typically use less spendy contact cleaner (Caig, CRC, etc) to blast away looser corrosion, then a quick, light spritz of Deoxit, then exercise the connector with its mate 5 or 6 times, to use friction and Deoxit together to remove remaining corrosion, then blow the connector with canned or compressor air and reassemble. The remaining residual Deoxit film will inhibit future corrosion for a long time.
I was a dedicated GM user until about the 1995 modelyear when my truck developed too many premature failures. I had been driving a Toyota car that I hated but that thing would not die. Lesson learned! I've been driving nearly trouble-free Toyotas since 2006.
Thank you for what you do. Amazing work.
Actually am familiar with Deoxit myself here in the south. We use it in audio/video production to clean potentiometers and contacts and such what. Excellent spray to have! 👍
Thanks for the shout out to the girl! I feel more accepted.
Great diagnosis thanks for posting ! I bought one of these for a family member, and what a toilet these are.
Always great to watch your videos. I doubt if I will have to do any of this type of troubleshooting but might be handy to see if the tech on our vehicles is pissing on my leg..
Hi Eric, Girl here to, UK tech and loving your videos
When you use Deoxit D5, spray the female and male pins, plugs.... plug together in and out a few times to clean the contact areas off. No need to blow it out at all. The chemical is inert, no conductivity hose it up, leave it there.
Nice fix Mr. O. Like the Cameo of the family/shop cat and Mrs. O.
I love my GM still ❤
He's not working on a GM, it's just an "offshore" thing that GM re-badges and sells under one of their names. Other "makers" do that too.
I'm in the same boat with you brother. I was a diehard GM guy for many many years. I absolutely hate everything they produce these days. The cars (what few are left) are junk. The trucks have frames that basically turn to powder after 10 years here in the midwest.
Funny that while it has nothing to do with the song around the :46 mark, I'm reminded of when Phoebe misheard Tiny Dancer (Hold me closer Tony Danza) and more than once I've misheard the opening of "Welcome to the South Main Auto channel" as self made auto channel.
Thanks for the videos i learn your way to find a fault well done
Now your a genuine DAT (Daewoo Auto Technologies) guy
Now you did it! Amazon is sold out of dioxit. I was a chevy guy too. Until they sold me a new 1980 Silverado that broke down every other day for 10 years. It was my first new truck and I could not afford to replace it. Ever hear of a driveshaft breaking the welds to the yoke and falling out at a green light? It happens.
I live in NC and not a lot of need for DeoxIT on cars. My primary transportation is a 2007 Mercury Mountaineer and it is pristine. So is my wife's 2001 Taurus. But it is used all the time on electrical equipment. In my media production business it is a must for audio mixers and all sorts of mic and instrument connectors.
That's right Eric them check on cars have got the bugs and they don't like salt did a great job and keep her up and take care
Just funny I was scrolling through videos yesterday trying to figure out what cleaner you were using. Couldn’t find it for the life of me but here we are today. I’m from the south so we don’t see much corrosion but once in a while we do. I had just a slight amount yesterday on a speed sensor and was looking for what you had used in other videos. I snagged a can of the the yellow DeoxIT which is probably different its just what I had stumbled across at the time. I’ll check on the D5 version tomorrow.
Given US cars often come with V6's where the rest of world versions have 4cyls I'm amazed how many of those 1.4 GM bean cans you have in the US
Re-seating the seat air-bag connectors usually gets rid of that error. From moving the seat back and forth.