What Could a Six Flags Magic Mountain "GIGA" Look Like? Buy Or Sell, Episode 19
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- It's time for Buy or Sell Episode 19, where I respond to your theories and predictions for the theme park world.
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Buy or sell: SFGADV will get a major coaster for their 50th anniversary
Do you mean actually major or Six Flags’ definition of major
@@Fury325Fan like a Larson hyper loop 😂
@@mdf3530Plot Twist: The Magic Mountain giga is a 300 foot superloop
What does DV stand for? This def shouldn’t be as hard as it is for me rn lol
I know it’s six flags great adventure
@@Elitegymnasticsfan26 SFGADV stands for Six Flags Great Adventure. Theme park enthusiasts use that acronym to differentiate it from Six Flags America (SFA), Six Flags Great America (SFGAM) or Six Flags Over Georgia (which I’ve seen abbreviated as both SFGA and SFOG).
Buy or Sell: If Zamperla's re-do on dragster is a success, we could see more zamperla coasters come to cedar fair?
This is a great one. Id love to see zamperla crash into the market
Buy or sell: Dollywood gets a coaster over the 200ft mark in the next 4 years. (Great vid BTW)
Buy or sell: Lost Island is purchased by a smaller park chain if continued lack of attendance forces it to go out of business.
I rode outlaw a week ago . Front and back . I loved it . Not too rough at all . My fav ride in the park by a mile .
Yeah it’s not rough at all for a wooden coaster, and it’s well taken care of. SDC has zero reason to waste money on this
Buy or Sell: Universal will dominate attendance in Florida with Epic Universe and will venture into making more parks in various states.
It does look like they are taking some steps in that direction. They did announce back on January 11, 2023 that they planning on building a new theme park geared towards families with kids in Texas as well as a permanent horror experience in Las Vegas. No word yet on when either is supposed to open though.
Buy or Sell: Hersheypark’s next coaster will be a family multi-launch coaster along the lines of Big Bear Mountain.
Buy buy buy. That’d be such a nice fit
Buy or sell, BGT will announce their biggest or most unique project after the rapid closure of the wild mouse making more room for a coaster.
An ride operator at BGT told me that the giga is confirmed and will possibly be taller than fury 325 for marketing reasons and will most likely placed in the back of the park to route more traffic away from the front.
@@Jack28139 if this is true then I need a flight to Tampa
The MM 'giga' statement I believe is referring to gigawatts, as in the solar panels they are installing.
That sounds like a very Six Flags move.
Damn, unfortunately u could be right about that. That’s the only “teaser” that would make sense if it wasn’t really a giga coaster. The only piece that doesn’t make sense about that theory is that they already announced that project a couple of months ago. I think it’s even advertised on the park’s webpage so it doesn’t make sense that they’d “announce” it again months later. And making the reference to Goliath just adds more fuel to the fire.
There’s always been people spreading rumors that Magic Mountain was gonna get a giga and as cool as I know that’d be, I always took it with a grain of salt because those rumors always seemed to stem from “fansboys” lol. But this was the park teasing this, not the fans, and announcing something like that just seems too random for it to be nothing. Some people have been mentioning a chairswing/skyscreamer but if it that was true, I feel like they’d go for the 400’ft height classification tbh. It is SF afterall so I guess they could still market a 300’ft as the tallest chair-swing on the westcoast lol. But still never heard of a chairswing being referred to with the giga height classification.
Ik Six Flags doesn’t have the biggest budget for new rides and hasn’t really splurged on a coaster since Tatsu but I actually think this might be it. It would probably be a $35M+ project, but with Cedar Point modifying Dragetser, Universal getting Fast and the Furious, rumours of Busch Garden and Knotts getting massive additions next year and Energylandia approaching the 20 coaster count, it just makes sense that Magic Mountain is gonna retaliate. I guess we’ll see, but I think Six Flags might shock people for once.
Maybe they’ll even finish that restroom in the DC area as well! That’d be just as shocking, if not MORE!🚽😂
As weird as it is: I think buy or sell is my favourite series from you. I find these predictions incredibly interesting.
Anyway since Canada’s wonderland is currently doing its coaster feedback… thing. Here’s my Buy or sell:
Out of the 3 proposed coasters for Canada’s wonderland. Option 3, the GCI will be the coaster built since it’s the smallest, wouldn’t require a coaster casualty, and a partnership with GCI would allow them to extend the life of the parks other woodies
weird seeing two interests of mine collide like this, didnt know you were a wonderland fan too
I don't think six flags are getting a giga coaster but I do think even as the cheap brand six flags magic moutain will be getting a new coaster pretty soon. With Universal announcing the Intamin launch on VelociCoaster lines for Fast and the Furious and Knotts Berry farm having lots of talk of investment in big new coasters I feel a response is coming. Given current management I would guess a B&M dive coaster is more likely though. Tallest dive coaster on the west coast is a pretty easy thing to claim when you only need to get a smaller model to 154 feet to top Emperor.
Idk the fact that they mention Goliath specifically and not Lex Luther or Superman in that tweet sure does sound like we could see a full circuit giga come to the park and if so that would be insane!
You’re not getting a giga
I'm fairly convinced it is an acronym for something or other. If it's actually a giga coaster I'll eat my shoe. And I expect their teasing will backfire once it's revealed what "GIGA" actually means.
Outlaw Run currently has little to no maintenance issues and is way smoother than 75% of wooden coasters out there. That’d be an insane investment for the park anytime soon.
I dont get the "outlaw run is smooth" crowd but yall are out there lol
i don’t understand people who complain that outlaw run is rough, i’ve ridden it in every part of the train and for a wooden roller coaster i found it to be really smooth?
@@AirtimeThrills I dunno man, I haven’t found many if anyone outside of you that finds it rough (respecting your opinion of course). But to me there are tons of coasters that are rough that I don’t ever want to ride and this one is nowhere near those. To each their own I suppose, but i do think the park and most riders don’t find it rough or to have any issues so I just don’t see it being modified.
@@AirtimeThrillsirst of all: outlaw run didnt flop like lightning rod did
second of all: you are all overexaggerating the roughness of outlaw run (rmc timber wolf would be amazing)
I don't think Outlaw Run is very rough at all. Missouri does have the roughest coaster in the country, The Boss.
Buy or Sell: Cedar Fair will convert or build a new coaster that is a majority GCI Titan track within the next 5 years.
Buy or Sell: Cedar Fair will eventually put some good beneficial investments into their bottom 4 parks (Not only rides and coasters) throughout the next 10-15 years
To add one Dorney park gets a bnm hyper
Buy or sell: All 3 of the coaster concepts from the Canada’s Wonderland survey will happen, it’s just that one of them goes to Canada’s wonderland and the others get reworked for another park.
I just watched Airtime Thrills while eating about 30 minutes ago and was wondering when he’d upload again. My prayer has been answered 😁
Buy or sell: Within 2 years of the opening of Project Gravy Boat (the family boomerang), Holiday World will open another Vekoma, particularly a STC.
Buy or Sell: Kings Island will get a RMC SOB within the next five years because RMC keeps teasing a new coaster and keeps capitalizing the O and the O means vertical loop so Son of Beast RMC
Also sorry for the long paragraph I just can’t sum things up
Until I see an official announcement for another CF RMC, I’m selling this
Naaaaaahhhhhhh it’s gonna happen like literally why would they put capital O on like all of their posts and their is literally nothing else it could mean and we know cedar fair likes to reference their rides like Zambezi zinger and the spiral lift banshee and the SOB tombstone and I’m sure their are a bunch of others that I don’t know
@@HangtimeEnthusiastto troll thoosies who spend too much time on the internet
@@revived2036 I don’t have Facebook I just see post I do spend too much time on yt though
Buy or sell: a US Legoland gets a B&M wing within the next few years
Buy or sell: the ART Engineering family launch coasters begin popping up at Cedar Fair parks, such as Kings Island, Carowinds, and Cedar Point
Love the series; one of my favorite things to watch on RUclips. Keep it up!
I’m really hoping magic mountain gets a giga soon. It would really help bolster the lineup more
Idk with the whole Carowinds thing though
@@newenglandenthusiast3849true but the park is working hard to make sure fury is safe
@@newenglandenthusiast3849maybe now they can get a discount
Dear GOD I would love for either magic mountain or knott’s to get a giga… that and the new intamin coming to universal Hollywood would make things here much better than they already are!!!
@@AirtimeThrills the prices of supports cut in half!
The observation tower at Magic Mountain is 385’ tall, which makes it a ‘GIGA’ (notice they didn’t use the word ‘coaster’).
Buy or sell: Canada’s Wonderland will get another B&M coaster (like a wing coaster) by 2030 and it will be a record breaker of that specific model
Buy or Sell: Kings Island will get rid of Invertigo within the next 10 years for something modern. (like an RMC Raptor)
I think that might happen, just to make an front entrance type coaster. Almost everyone hates the outdated front entrance.
Looks like Wonderland is going to get a ground up GCI soon, but they could do Wilde Beast like they did Grizzly at Kings Dominion since they're basically the same ride.
Yes, I think people are forgetting about Gravity Groups retract. It has done wonders for Grizzly at Kings Dominion.
Cedar Fair seems to prefer GG. Supposedly Wolverine Wildcat got GG track this year after getting Titan last year.
Have you ever gone back and done a recap video on some of your earlier BUY OR SELL episodes and how your prediction % has been? Maybe you have done that and I have not seen it, but I think would make for some interesting videos.
Buy or sell: Six Flags Magic Mountain will get a new flat ride. Similar to Catwoman Whip at Six Flags St Louis.
Buy or Sell: Merlin entertainments will focus more on Thorpe park and Chessington world of adventures in the next decade and put Alton towers on the sideline
Buy or Sell:
The next Cedar Fair park to get a brand new RMC will be kings island.
They’ve teased outpost 5 a ton
By or Sell - Lightning racer at Hershey will get replaced by a surf coaster or vekoma big bear mountain type coaster
Buy or Sell: Positive G forces will become more prominent of an aspect on roller coasters in the future alongside airtime
Buy or sell: Six Flags Over Texas gives shockwave the axe in the next 5 years due to the constant flooding problems from the creek beneath it.
Buy or Sell: Kings Island tears down Flight of Fear by 2026, finally builds a good launch coaster (B&M Surf) by 2028
Nooooooo
Buy or sell: if BGT is not getting a giga, they will be getting a GCI woody or a B&M wing coaster in 2024 or 25
I honestly would be surprised if Magic Mountain is doing this tease and is not getting a real giga. Six Flags is cheap but I think this would piss to many people off if they tease this and then don't deliver. It probably wont be until 2025 though.
Kind of frustrating magic mountains more likely to get a giga than fix any of the multitude of problems the park has.
It's such a ridiculous park. They build coaster after coaster, which just sucks up more cash and forces them to limit operations on existing rides. And yet the park can't even pull in the same attendance as parks that are open fewer days and aren't in a nearly as populated of an area. I don't wish to trash the park but something has to give there.
I went to Knott's recently and while talking to a ride operator on the observation tower they told me these clues towards a new ride:
[ ] "Bird is the word" location (unless it was referring to ride experience?)
[ ] taller than the Knotts S&S launchtower (SkyScream(er)?) Unless he was referring to Xcelerator.
[ ] New coaster (or other ride? I'm pretty sure he said coaster) next year(/announced next year?)
Now I thought it was heavily implied or outright said that this was for Knotts, however, there is a small chance he was referring to Cedar point which would make more sense considering the TTD reimagining. From what I can tell though he seemed very dead set that it was this park/here (knotts) at that time. Now, the operator could be messing with me and maybe the info is false, but it definitely seemed to come from somewhere truthful. Considering it hasn't been announced yet, I doubt the park has 100% committed to the project and they could change their minds or comply with regulations. But I'd keep an eye out at Knotts.
My best guess is that it's not Montezuma's revenge at all and that it is xcelerator that is getting taken out or reworked in some capacity. However it could be neither and as simple as one of those sky swings.
So possibly keep a heads up guys????
Stop feeding me Copium 😭😭😭
He already got the Cedar Fair adding a park right XD
Buy or sell: Disney will add a Vekoma flying coaster at one of their parks in the next 10 years.
Buy or sell: will falcons flight ever get built and will it defy the laws of physics?
it already is getting built
Construction is already happening for a while, a lot of the layout is done, but I wonder if it will go through the whole way.
Buy or Sell: Six Flags Great Adventure will get a major coaster, like a multi-launch.
Buy Or Sell: Kings Island has a slow couple years, then goes for some record in the former Vortex area.
Buy or sell: Mattel Adventure Park becomes a top tier destination resort for families.
Buy or Sell: We see the vortex plot turn into a food area with flat rides and RMC Son of Beast happens by 2026 because of the movement in the station
Buy or Sell: after the rumored dive for next year, Dorney Park starts to see some investments over the next decade
Buy or Sell: Wild Rivers Waterpark in Irvine ,California will get a theme park similar to Lost Island.
Buy or Sell: in 2025 both KD and BGW get a rollercoaster for their 50th anniversary. I know it is probably likely, but with the way each park has been the last few years, it’ll be interesting to see how they handle them.
Prediction:
KD: B&M wing or Hyper in Volcano plot of land, part of phase 2 expansion of that area.
BGW: Intanim Giga, either the revived shuttle concept or a full circuit akin to Red Force OR an RMC in the field behind Verbolten show building.
You can call me bob. Buy or Sell: The Canada's Wonderlands new concepts rides get build within 7 years.
I rode Outlaw Run for the first time a few weeks ago and was really disappointed. Thought maybe the first ride was rough because the guy stapled me but nope, it killed me even when not stapled.
Buy or Sell: If a park builds an RMC T-Rex, it would be a Hyper for the prototype.
Boy or Sell: Ahead of the 2032 Olympics in Queensland Australia, A major theme park emerges in that region.
Buy or sell, b&m will start selling new, more comfortable trains for old floorless coasters
Fiesta Texas under Six Flags would be so kickass.
Buy or Sell: Cedar Fair will add a B&M Flyer to one of its parks in the next decade
Maybe GlGA stands for Green Lantern Great Adventure. Which is a large B&M Standup. Maybe this means they will perform some sort of major renovation of Riddler's Revenge.
Buy or Sell: Magic Mountain's next Giga coaster will be over Samurai Summit, possibly going over parts of Revolution, Roaring Rapids, Ninja or Tatsu.
lots of canada mentions! im glad you enjoyed CW more this year then last time
Buy or Sell: Project Exodus has a spinning car in the middle of the train.
Everyone knows the back row is for accessibility. And they obviously wouldn't put it in the front because people choose the front row for the views.
Putting one in the middle car would help revitalise that part of the train, as opposed to everyone seeking out the front or back.
Buy or Sell : The Vekoma STCs become popular in America so much so that we will see 3 of them in the next 15 years. (Like the Vekoma SLCs became)
Buy or Sell: Cedar Fair is waiting for GCI with their IBOX track to be perfect to build a new Son of Beast at Kings Island. Solidifying GCI to be a direct competitor to RMC. CF loves GCI, and hates RMC.
Yeah but Kings Island is planning for RMC to redo it and besides GCI has titan track now
If you want to get really technical CraZanity is a Zamperla Giga Discovery lol.
Buy or Sell: The possible drifting feature on USH's F&F coaster is never replicated on another coaster in the US
5:55 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SFMM IS TALKING ABOUT THE SKY TOWER HOW IS EVERYONE MISSING THAT
"In the wake of Pipeline's success..."
This implies Pipeline is a success, and as someone that lives just down the street from SWO I can tell you "waste of space" and "waste of money" are more accurate ways to describe it.
Buy or sell: since the clone of s&s freespins in the six flags chain like batman the ride, the s&s freespin model will slowly die out and get no more sales like batman clones
Buy Or Sell : If Zamperla fails at Dragsters redesign Cedar Fair may reevaluate their pushing away from Intamin and make a new ride.
Buy or sell: Michigan's Adventure gets a new ground up coaster in 2031 for its 75th anniversary. Possibly something with Zamperla if PHP2024 turns out well. Maybe a spinning wild mouse to replace Mad Mouse, which, as an Arrow, may be getting difficult to maintain.
S&S supplies all the parts for Arrows and helps maintain them. The whole "service life" thing we've seen used as an excuse to dump them in recent years is more that the parks don't want to continue paying to maintain old rides that no longer draw crowds and are generally seen as rough and unwanted by the GP.
Buy or sell : B&m will make a dive coaster with surf trains in the next 10 years to a park looking for a worlds first coaster
The Giga idea is interesting on one hand it's a no brainer for SF. It would be the only one on the West Coast so if they want to make a splash that would do it for sure. On the other hand it's expensive, although I think some of their rides are probably coming to the end of their service life like Superman, Viper, and Ninja. As far as SW Orlando and San Diego, I don't see why they don't just add inverts. They're super popular with the GP and I find it odd neither park has one.
I think that if any Six Flags park _could_ plausibly get a proper giga coaster, it'd be Magic Mountain. That said, it's still a long shot.
@@MarsJenkar I agree with you. On one hand there isn't a Giga on the west coast. But on the other it's SF. I mean MM should be a resort destination but operates like a regional park. There's no way a park that size should operate like that. But hey that's a "Six Flags Day" after all.
Buy or Sell: Six Flags sells its lease to La Ronde in the next 10 years, possibly bundled with Great Escape.
Love the series, congrats on 19 episodes! Great format too, nice way to keep the community involved!!
Buy or Sell, Aquaman or Wonder Woman may become Six Flags next clone, like batman.
Buy or sell : if magic mountain does get a giga it would replace ninja on the top of the hill and the drop would be way bigger then the lift using the mountain to their advantage.
Buy or sell: A Gravity Group coaster will be RMC’d in the next 15 years
Buy or Sell: I think with Silverwood's announcement on expanding its water park, we will see see another coaster be added in 2024? I think it will be a Rmc woodie with Tremors finally transforming into one of most unique rmcs ever made.
Buy or sell: Project horizon at Alton Towers will be an intamin multidimensional coaster like uncharted
Buy or Sell: The first RMC in the UK will be a raptor model (at blackpool??)
I'm not sure where it'd fit, but Blackpool getting a Raptor makes sense. Could one fit in Wild Mouse's old plot? If so, I'd say put it there.
Buy or Sell: Six flags over Georgia gets a rmc raptor in the splash water falls area
10:22 unfortunately, John JR confirmed that he wasn’t a fan of the raptors and that it was unlikely he was going to buy one for any of his parks.
expect something in orlando soon though 👀
Buy or Sell: the Fury 325 crack causes a small amount of safety concerns for B&M
Unfortunately due to the media, this is already happening😢
Within the next 5 years, Waldameer announces a major expansion with a new thrill coaster.
They did recently get some new land so I would not be surprised if they did a decent sized expansion some time soon.
Buy or Sell: Cedar Point will start working with Intamin in the next 5 years.
Also, Buy or Sell: RMC will eventually release trains without the leg restraints.
Buy or Sell. Great American Scream Machine SFOG will be reimagined/tracked by RMC or GCI in the next 10 years
Buy or sell: One day "Steel Dagon 2000" will shut down and "The Beast" at Kings Island will reclaim the tital of worlds longest coaster.
Buy. THe Beast is still going strong after over 40 years and I doubt they would remove it before steel dragon, especially since GCI and gravity group could easily retrack it in the future. Whereas morgan is defunct so Steel dragon 2000 would be on a time limit.
Well, that's three strikes. It was fun being a subscriber while it lasted.
Buy or Sell Holiday world will get a new thrill coaster before 2030
Buy or sell: Knoebels next major investment is a coaster for it's 100th anniversary in 2026. I'm thinking custom RMC on the hillside the ski lift goes up or a nice raptor.
By or sell- worlds of fun gives Timberwolf either infinity or millennium flyer trains and re tracks they entire layout
Buy or sell: a new RMC topper track launched coaster will be built in the next 20 years
Hot take: teasing a Giga is a horrendous marketing choice. Now, no matter what they build, they will receive negative feedback if it isn't a giga. It feels almost like theyre mocking enthusiasts, and I can even see the GP being disappointed. Overall terrible play for SFMM unless they are actually going to go giga. If they want to go another direction with Six Flags thats their choice, but being deliberately rude does nothing for them.
buy or sell: Michigan's Adventure gets a new Zamperla double heart coaster and depending on how it goes, the park will start seeing more investment through the future
Buy or sell: Sfgam will get some sort of coaster near the yanke harbor/ hometown square where demon is and the little boat ship ride (ps: I work at six flags and demon is not working for some reason but this is the second time in 2 years demon was down for a very long period of time.)
Buy or Sell: SFGAd will hire Zamperla to reimagine Kingda Ka in the next 10 years
Buy or sell: Kings Dominion's Volcano replacement will be launched.
Did you see 2 of my comments Airtime Thrills in 2 of your videos including How Six Flags Nearly Killed Magic Mountain and If Six Flags Magic Mountain Closed What Would Happen To Its Coasters (2006)
Buy or Sell: Gravity Group's pre-cut engineered track is installed on more Cedar Fair coasters after the success with Racer and Beast at KI and now Grizzly at KD.
You should make a video about the new fast and furious coaster construction starting in universal Hollywood. Great video by the way.
Yes! So excited for it!
I rode outlaw run last week and it was the smoothest wooden coaster I’ve ever ridden. Not ruff at all
Buy or Sell: The replacement for the newly torn-down Sand Serpent at BGT will be a Mack Multi-Launch
Buy Or Sell : You Finally Mention Something About Son Of Beast RMC Kings Island Rumors
Buy or sell: Kings island with within the next few big investments will be a ground up rmc son of beast
Buy or Sell: The next vekoma thrill coaster will go to another non-chain amusement park like Cotaland (think of Holiday World or Knobels)