Vivo en china y amo la seguridad que se siente acá hasta en el lugar más remoto y a la hora que sea .. amo Venezuela pero esta tranquilidad no la cambio por nada en el mundo .❤
Cuando le preguntabas sobre ¨crédito social¨ no te entendió bien él... lo que te estaba describiendo es el ¨criminal record¨, que existe igual en cualquier país, si cometiste crímenes graves obviamente que estarás fichado en la policía. Cruzar la calle en rojo caminando no te afecta en absolutamente NADA, salvo que lo hagas frente a un oficial de transito y te quiera multar (con 20 a 50 yuanes y solo si te pones a discutir, la mayoría de las veces los dejan seguir), te multan en el mismo lugar. Cualquier expat que haya andado en bicicleta por avenidas no habilitadas lo sabe... te paran, te retan o te multan y listo. Los conductores de automóviles tienen que seguir reglas igual que en cualquier pais y ahi si tenes puntos de la licencia que vas perdiendo si cruzas un semáforo en rojo o vas a alta velocidad... incluso si perdes todos los puntos y la licencia, el castigo es que tenes que hacer el examen de conducir desde cero. NO EXISTE EL CRÉDITO SOCIAL en China con puntos que ganas o perdés, eso es una falacia muy ridícula que repartieron los medios occidentales desde hace unos años. Los castigos de no poder tomarte un tren o ir en primera clase solo se aplican cuando alguien está procesado por estafas, te controlan que no gastes dinero en pasajes VIP y en excesos cuando en realidad deberías devolver el dinero que robaste a tus empleados y acreedores. Solo aplica a empresas e individuos a cargo de empresas en esas situaciones. Solo toma 10 minutos de pararse en un cruce de calles y ver como medio millón de motos y peatones cruzan el semáforo en rojo para entender cuál es la realidad... media China ya tendría el crédito en negativo si fuera real, jaja.
dan hasta risa las preguntas que le hacen al chino por lo ignorante que suenan. Es literal pura propaganda con la que los medios de comunicacion le han lavado el cerebro al resto del mundo para demonizar a china, los chinos, su vision, el comunismo, etc.
@@DosLocosDeViajetry to ask more Chinese about social score, they will all be confused and tell you they don’t know what you’re talking about, because it doesn’t exist. The only thing similar to it is the credit score rating system used when someone applies for loans. But most Chinese don’t even know that.
@@DosLocosDeViaje I feel you are actually setting a trap for this young man you know? He has totally no clue for what you've talked about. This brings me to the sad scene where language and cultural barriers allow rumors to continue to spread. People with prejudice never see the truth.
@@DosLocosDeViajewhy you are so clinging on something doesn’t exist? If something not exists, and your cognition doesn’t apply to that, only means you have been brainwashed.
Me gusta mucho la manera como han presentado este viaje a China. Soy profesor de inglés y doy clases a niños chinos online desde Caracas y me ha permitido conocer un poco mas de la cultura china y su modo de vivir.
Estuve en china entre el 26 de marzo y 13 de abril, me pareció genial la seguridad y el comportamiento de las familias chinas, quiero volver, he visto toda tu serie de China y he vuelto a revivir mi pase por Beijing y Hubei.
about the so-called social credit points，after me arriving Canada for study，many local friends and my classmates from other region have asked me the same thing and i wasn't even know what were they talking about，i was thinking my English was too bad to understand，so i checked it online and those English and traditional Chinese sources made me speechless. basically，this concept is made by western media about 7 years ago（the earliest video i could find on RUclips），and when they are trying to prove that this system exists，they show audiences some pictures that bags of rice with notes “30 scores”or “40 scores” on those bags，and then show security cameras that is watching u and all these clips are shown under very heavy filters，make all clips look very scary and terrible. but actrually, those scores are kind of bank points，like if u buy a specific insurance， the bank would give u like 100 points which can be used to buy some items in some shops that has partnership with that bank. they took the picture，and made a story that so many people bought it. i think one of the biggest problems that why so many western people are so easy to buy such saying is that they don‘t understand any chinese. if they knew，the entire document would be hilarious. can u imagine chinese document points on ur Walmart points and tell Chinese people these are evil capitalism conspiracy？basically the same thing. being bilingual can help u to understand things more correctly，even it's google translated.
There is no such thing like social credit points, I don't know this story made up by who! There are special traffic laws to deal with violations of traffic regulations. Criminal offenses are dealt with by specialized criminal laws, same as civil disputes are handled by specialized civil laws. Isn't this normal? Why made up the connection between the above behavior and the non-existent social credit points?
And still, someone who has never been in China will say you are wrong, and the fact thay you have never experienced it, it doesn't mean social credit score doesn't exist, or you are not allow to talk about SCS because CPP will punish you 😂
It can surprise you how severely brainwashed by western media are people outside China. Western media is constantly demonizing anything communist and Chinese related just because such thing plays a critical roll in public opinion which directly translates into politics. In a nutshell, this brainwashing can be view as "manipulation of democracy through public opinion"
As a Chinese, I cannot understand the prejudices of foreign media and Westerners. The government does not have a social credit system and does not conduct credit scores on anyone. But it does not rule out that companies will conduct credit ratings on individuals, such as bank credit mechanisms. Alibaba has credit ratings for individuals who participate in online shopping on its platform. With a high credit rating, you can enjoy higher loans and have more rights to return goods. Public transportation companies also have the right to refuse people who repeatedly fail to observe public order and discipline to take public transportation. Isn't this normal?
I have never heard of restricting public transportation, even for people who owe money and don't pay it back. The only restrictions are on buying luxury goods or taking planes, high-speed trains, but there are no restrictions on regular travel.
At least in this video, no one is having a prejudice about your country. The youtuber is asking about some information he found on the internet. On this side of the world we don't know anything about your country, it is normal that we want to know more about it. I don't understand why every Chinese person who has commented seems uncomfortable with this video. Actually, I think most of us think that the system you have is very good.
@@lynchlee7207 Yes, there are several people who are occupying seats and refusing to give up. The high-speed rail company restricted the use of high-speed rail within a certain period of time!
try to understand them, it is not their fault. they've been brainwashed by western media to believe anything communist or Chinese related is bad or wrong and anything united states or capitalism related is good and right.
As a manager of the monitoring background, I must say that the function of these cameras is mainly traceability rather than monitoring. And those cameras belong to different departments of management, such as transportation, public security, emergency response, urban management, etc., due to the different investment time and allocation of construction funds, these departments only have their own private monitoring resources, and can not be shared with other departments, resulting in a lot of waste of resources. Now the government is integrating these monitoring resources and unifying them into the smart city management department for unified management.
en una sociedad donde hay todo tipo de persona, eso de controlar las acciones de las personas que son malas es un beneficio para las buenas personas, y poder vivir de forma tranquila y segura. ojala me sintiera segura en mi propio pais
En Europa critican las cámaras pero cada día la inseguridad es más grande. En América Latina los únicos que no le gustarían ese red de cámaras son los delincuentes.Asi de sencillo.
In 2007, the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) launched a secret surveillance project codenamed "Prism", which directly entered the central servers of American Internet companies to mine data and collect intelligence. Nine international internet giants, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Apple, participated in it.
Que rápido publicaron estaba esperando este video que interesante todo sobre la cultura china. Y si opino igual q lo q dice Emma al final q si ya nuestros móviles saben todo sobre nosotros prácticamente porque Google esta en todos lados pues que ellos tengan su propio sistema de cámaras para garantizar la seguridad del país y de sus ciudadanos me parece muy positivo. Una vez mas excelente trabajo muchachos. 👏👍
Este video es espectacular!!👏👏 Aclara muchas muchas dudas que siempre tenemos de este pais con tanta historia. Muchas gracias y saludos desde Madrid 🇪🇦
As a Chinese myself, I have to say your local guide here is obviously not get the meaning of your social credit system question...Ordinary Chinese just don't know this western-fabricated notion.
actually, having such a credit system is not a good thing？I really want we have one, it will reduce the cost to know about a person, trust is the basement of social life, right？
@@youngyoung2980 problem is NOT having such system is good or not, it seems to me that the whole "social credit" narrative is fabricated. From my understanding, it seems what they have is very similar to those in democratic and developed countries. For example, if one has bad credit records, the bank won't grant him credit card or loan applications, or in worser case, if one has major financial violation such as scam or fraud, he'll be revoked certain rights, or if one has bad tracking records of traffic violations, he'll be forced to be reeducated by attending traffic classes or have his driver's licence revoked.. etc. maybe china has more strict rules but it seems not much of a difference from other countries?!
Hola Dos locos de viaje...me encantan los videos de todos los lugares que visitan..recién terminé de ver el de China me gustó mucho..lo que no entiendo (y es a nivel personal claro está) porqué hablar caminando sin mostrar los lugares (me cansé de caminar) se pueden sentar en una plaza u otro lugar y no esquivando las personas y mostrar el barrio...los felicito...Bendiciones
Being Chinese. I don't understand what points foreigners are talking about. As far as I know. 1. If a person borrows money from a bank and doesn't pay it back or has financial faults. Then that person has a bad record in the financial system. In the future, there will be restrictions on loans and borrowing money. For example, you can't use the signal card to overdraw or spend on luxury goods. If foreigners say the score. Then this is the economic credit score. Only involves the bank. Many countries in the world banks will be similar regulations. 2. if the motor vehicle traffic light violation, then the driver's licence will be deducted points. The points represent the driver's driving record. Deducting more than the required number of points will require the driver to take a new driver's licence! But the points only represent the driver's good or bad driving record. It doesn't affect anything that's not related to it. 3. If there is a bad legal record, then this person in the industry or work will have an impact. Because employers will refer to this information. Only if it causes life-threatening and serious incidents will there be a legal record. Pedestrians jumping red lights or littering will not have a bad record. 4. China doesn't have a social score as mentioned in the video. There is only a credit score in the banking system! It's a score that represents a person's economic ability! There is also a legal personal record. For example, a DUI record. Drugs. Theft. That kind of record. 5. Cameras are more useful in cases where there are no witnesses. It works in disputes or accidents!
Wuao mi pana esta seria me a cambiado mi opinión sobre china como me gustari ir es un pais expectacular ustdes tendra mucho que contar a sus hijos cuqndo los tengas que Dios les de muchas bendiciones y sigan asi 👍👍
Buenas mis locos me parece q Latinoamérica necesita ese sistema de seguridad, hay mucha impunidad y si somos personas de bien no importa tener cámaras q vean mientras nos sentimos seguros 😊
En realidad nadie te mira a menos que suceda algo, es para trazabilidad, es decir encontrar al responsable, más que para monitorearte las 24 horas. Son 1400 millones de personas, ¿a quien le importa lo que hace una de ellas las 24 horas? Tendría que ser una súper estrella.
Me parece muy interesante el sistema de cámaras porque está comprobado que lo hacen para garantizar seguridad y protección al ciudadano, es imposible que sea para control individual porque en un país con tantos millones de personas imposible van a pasar todo el día siguiendo en especial lo que hace cada ciudadano, eso sólo lo harán con personas sospechosas.
You are right. China has 1.4 billions people, and there is no way to monitor every citizen everyday. Doing so, Chinese government needs to hire 0.7 billion people to monitor the other half. Funny!!!
Shanghai China es ciudad moderna, hacen separación de basuras en cada casa, los hospitales muy modernos , educacion muy buena ,todo muy limpio. China es muy segura, estuve en visita familiar 170 días . 🤗 desde Bogotá Colombia
No offence but you have expressed your concern about China’s ‘watching system’ several times. China is a huge country with really high level of demographic diversity, that’s why it’s much more important to establish a security system to ensure the stability of society and security of its people than emphasising too much on ‘privacy’. China is a smart country and it knows what is right to do at the right time, that’s why it grows so fast.
@@DosLocosDeViajebecause of you, i know why your country is still a poor third-world country even it has huge amount of oil resource, a country full of ignorant and arrogant people can never fulfill high achievement
China bendecido pais por dioses universales. Pais que da seguridad a sus habitantes, leyes rigurosas, ciudadanos chinos receptivos a los buenos cambios. Bonito pais.
Por eso desde muchos años los exámenes PISA los ganan los chinos. Competencia de violín (en el más famoso de ellos, que ví hace unos años, de los cinco primeros puestos cuatro eran orientales, 3 chinos), piano, etc. Y yo soy china.
A mi se me olvidó mi laptop en un café de Shanghai.... llegando a casa me di cuenta, regresé y ahí estaba en la mesita del restaurante después de 40 minutos
SI LA CULTURA DE OTRO PAÍS ES PARA BENEFICIAR A SU GENTE ES BUENO LO QUE PASA ES QUE CHINA ES UN PAIS MUY DESARROLLADO Y TODO DESARROLLO TIENE SUS REGLAS AL IGUAL QUE EE.UU RUSIA Y DEMAS PAISES DESARROLLADO BENDICIONES
Latinoamérica sería otra si tuviera este sistema de cámaras, pero no me sorprendería que se las roben igual 😅 o que estén inoperativas, como suele suceder por acá.
He's too young and could easily fall into the trap of your questions. He also knows nothing about many of the issues. All the hype about China in the Western media is wrong. Firstly, there is no such thing as a social credit system in China. What this boy is talking about are restrictions on the behaviour of "debtors". If the debtor does not object and does not comply with the payment order, the creditor can apply to the court for enforcement. The court will restrict the debtor's high consumption behaviour, including the purchase of luxury cars, jewellery, watches and travel, as is the case in many countries around the world. There is another one, maybe his English is not very good, in the expression, it is always very vague. I am not sure if he is describing the behaviour of drivers or road users. It is immoral for pedestrians to run red lights, but not illegal. If a driver runs a red light too many times, which is an offence, or causes a traffic accident, he will lose his driving licence. Secondly, China's one-child policy is a restrictive behaviour, and if it is violated, it is usually punished with a fine. It has very little binding force in rural China, where farmers usually have more than two children and there are few one-child families. Otherwise, China would not have a population of 1.4 billion. Even though our birth rate is gradually declining, the Chinese government does not currently have a policy to encourage childbirth. They have only lifted the birth control policy.
This RUclipsR is from who knows where? He deliberately sets up question traps. On RUclips, anti-China is a source of traffic. And this young man's English is not good. He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
@@sdsdj626 Actually, the youtuber really liked what the government is doing for your country. I think you didn't understand anything he said. He was just curious about some topics you can find on the Internet.
Lo que es muy interesante es que, en mi opinión, los países en desarrollo deberían seguir a China como modelo para promover la gobernanza económica y social interna a fin de lograr el mayor progreso, especialmente cuando Venezuela es tan severamente sancionada y humillada por Estados Unidos. Sin embargo, mucha gente cree en la propaganda estadounidense e incluso se hace eco de la propaganda falsa estadounidense. Esto es realmente desconcertante.
Tío, que pesadez con lo del "crédito social". Que no existe como te lo cuentan en los medios occidentales; simplemente no tienen recursos para estar vigilando a 1 billón de personas, sería un malgasto. Le pregunto a mis amigos chinos y algunos que viven en China y directamente no saben a que me estoy refiriendo. Si tuvieran un sistema de crédito social como tal, no vería a los mayores escupiendo en la calle; a la gente fumando en donde no debe; a los puestos callejeros asentarse espontáneamente en donde quieran; a la gente cruzando las calles como si fuera todo para peatones; a los conductores conducir con tanta prisa que infringen reglas de conducción. SIMPLEMENTE NO EXISTE EL CRÉDITO SOCIAL.
Querido Emma, me encantan tus vídeos, ojalá puedas hacer unos junto a Gabriel y también Ramón. Tú inglés debe progresar, hay frases que no se dicen así en inglés. Les quiero Valery
About 20 years ago, there were thieves in the streets of China, but now the thieves have disappeared. The ubiquitous cameras make it difficult for criminals to escape punishment.
About the so called social credit system, the vlogger was asking legit questions but this boy was making many things up... Also there are many misunderstandings because of inappropriate usage of English words. For example, if you run a red light and cause an accident, you will be charged by the police and they will use the camera recordings as evidence. And then, you will have a crime record on your profile. Otherwise, no real harm, no one track you, no point deduction, no one check the cameras and nothing. Any warnings or punishments are written in the law. If it is not in the law, it does not exist. If this "red line" of score exist, like the one for drivers license, it should be written in some law. Can anyone find it? 🤔
El inglés de este chico chino es tan pobre que siente que no entiende completamente tu pregunta y responde algunas preguntas. En cuanto al sistema de puntos sociales que mencionas, China no lo tiene ahora, pero sí habrá una lista de personas deshonestas importantes para la sociedad en china, como cuando una persona participa en el fraude de grandes cantidades de bienes o debe mucho dinero sin devolver dinero, la policía y los tribunales restringen el tráfico cuando no pueden encontrarlo.La licencia de conducir de China tiene un sistema de puntos. si violas muchas reglas de tráfico al conducir, tu licencia de conducir será revocada y luego necesitarás volver a aceptar el examen para obtenerla. las cámaras que ves en la carretera también son para manejar estas cosas electrónicamente. las cámaras que conducen a exceso de velocidad o violan las reglas de tráfico tomarán fotos y multarán puntos.
En realidad nadie te mira a menos que suceda algo, es para trazabilidad, es decir encontrar al responsable, más que para monitorearte las 24 horas. Son 1400 millones de personas, ¿a quien le importa lo que hace una de ellas las 24 horas? Tendría que ser una súper estrella.
It’s very interesting that bloggers are so concerned about China’s surveillance and privacy issues, but Israel has passed anti-Semitic laws in the United States, and any accusations against Israel will be treated as anti-Semitic, and students were filmed supporting the Palestinian people’s anti-genocide protests. , if you participate in these protests you will be arrested, why don’t bloggers make some comparisons? ?
It’s really ridiculous. The blogger claims to be Venezuelan, but he thinks like an American from beginning to end. He thinks he is an American. He is arrogant, rude, and stupid, but he does not realize that the people who turned his country into the hell he is today are It was the Americans he admired and admired. The Americans' oppression and exploitation of South America turned South America, which could have been self-sufficient, into a paradise of drugs and crime.
En 10 años lo único que me robaron fue el casco que siempre dejaba arribita de la moto.. y en una de esas ya no estaba :/ pero para todo lo que dejo me ha ido muy bien! ja
Genial esta serie; cuáles son las redes de Sergio para seguirlo. Gracias chamo son unos duros cuando pueda volver a Venezuela ojalá y sea pronto definitivamente voy a cumplir mi sueño de viajar a esas nuestras maravillas
Bueno depende a mi se me perdió mi cel hace una semana y unas chicas muy educadas de notaba por su forma de hablar y cuando las vi eran jóvenes estudiantes me regresaron mi tlf así que es cuestión de educación de cada quien
@@lishen6347 como en todos lados hay gente buena u mala cuando estuve en uriguay me robaron por ciudad vieja y por eso no generalize un pais. Creo que eso es de mente cortita.
I don't think the majority of Chinese people are fixated on, or preoccupied with, the social credit score in their day to day lives. It is a system that does give pause to anyone thinking of breaking the law. Is it a good system for every society? That's debatable. It does ultimately encourage good behavior and discourages bad behavior.
But there is no such system, it is fabricated by the Western media. And crossing the red light road is not a crime at all, but a matter of good moral restraint
I don't understand why foreigners care so much about cameras. You are not criminals, normal people do not notice the camera, for us to have a camera means safety and security. Plus, you're shooting people in the street. You didn't code them either, and you're still here talking privacy?
When you are using RUclips, X, INS, FACEBOOK and iPhone, and you think about who owns your data and who can monitor the leaders of other countries, I don’t think anyone need ask this question.
Hace ya un tiempo vengo mirando material de china y no deja de sorprender. Pensar que hasta 1989 padecieron pobreza extrema con grandes hambrunas que se llevaron mas de 15M de vidas y en 3 décadas se convirtieron en la segunda economía mundial y en la fabrica del mundo. Siempre llego a la conclusión que mientras la gente tenga un trabajo, se desarrolle profesionalmente y tenga buena calidad de vida me importa nada si es capitalismo o comunismo o cuanto sistema exista. En occidente votamos, el político miente nunca cumple y se roba todo la gente vive al dia y mal, la democracia es una ficción
Dale con los créditos de seguridad 😂 Compro o vendo por Mercado Libre también me califican! Así también el banco si no pago la tarjeta de crédito a tiempo. Me restan puntos si conduzco mal y puedo perder la licencia de conducir. Todo eso pasa en cualquier país normal, no solo en China. Gracias a las cámaras con reconocimiento facial en los trenes en Argentina se atraparon unos cuantos prófugos y buscados, entre ellos de delitos de violaciones y abuso infantil. Sirve para TRAZABILIDAD más que para monitoreo. ¿Se imaginan estar detrás de 1400 millones de personas?
en el año 2010 fui a Caracas dos veces, y no , no me parece un lugar seguro, mi compañero salio de calle a comprar un champú y fue robado por dos delincuentes con pistolas, en nuestro hotel hubo guardias vigilando con un arma parecido a ak47, eso no pasa ni en España ni en China, y me dio la impresion de que Venezuela es el pais casi más peligroso de Latinoamerica..... y por eso no me disgusta las camaras de vigilancia en China, estas en un lugar público, y las camaras estan instalados en lugares públicos, que hay de malo en eso??? A caso vas a hacer algo muy privado en lugares Públicos??? por algo son lugares públicos,no? de qué va esa obsesion de Privacidad andando en un lugar tan público , es que no entiendo
Bro en europa y USA los down town están infestados de cámaras ,y de policías no te cuento Otra cosa cuando te dan una puñalada o un tiro en la calle en tu país ,te joden tu privacidad ?,la chica q vive 10 años allá venezolana te contesto muy bien por cierto
1.There is No such credit system made by the Chinese government of everyday life in China. Same as most countries, Chinese banking system has credit record for financial needs. And drivers has a record only works for driving system. If your driving breaks the traffic regulations and caught by the cameras, you will receive a fine message and your driving points (usually 12 points each year) will get deducted. 2. About the cameras. There is no real person behind the cameras just being there watching everyone. If so, with 1.4 billion population, it’s really a huge amount of work and no government on earth could afford that cost. The cameras are mainly doing recording and keep them in a certain period of time, so when there’s crime happens, the police can always go back to track what happened if it’s captured by the cameras.
con permiso y respeto,una consideracion linguistica.se dice o se expresa asi...limpiarse o sacudirse la nariz,tener flatulencias.cuando se dirije a un publico.se es lider,por eso hay que tener cuidado con el lenguaje,en el idioma español es rico en su composicion y multiple en palabras o lenguaje,de hecho existe por la real academia de la lengua,diccionario de sinonimos y antonimos.gracias y disculpe.
Glad to see you guys walking on the streets talking about realities of China but... It feels like you and the young Chinese guy are talking about totally different things 😢 He probably thinks you're referring to the 个人档案(personal resume) recorded by government. This personal resume will be used when a company wants to employee you so they check the resume and assure you didn't commit any crime 😂 How do u guys connect this to the so-called credit system. I mean, is black-list of the bank system unusual in your country....
the english level of this chinese boy is so limited, he cannot even 100% understanding what you are asking about , so the his answer is just so comfuse. fistly, there is no social score in china at all, and for the red light , if you are the passenger, is ok for u to break the rule, but if ur behavair(break the red light) cause any traffic accident,of course you will get into trouble, if you are the driver, you break the red light, the camera will catch your and record it, when it counts to a certain extent,for example,10 times,you driver liscen will be cancellation. secondly, what he called “system” ,actually is the personale file(that is what he want to express),but personale file is not very important for all the people, just important for those who want to be Civil servant，Especially civil servants in the justice system，because these job ask for a perfect personal file. and the other thing the chinse boy try to say is "crimal record", just like his say, if u just steal for 100yuan ,is ok, It will only educate you,but if you steal 10000yuan, its crime, and what situation you will be limit to the public transpot, is when you cannot return the 10000yuan, you will in the blacklist untill you pay all the money back, and this restriction is not to limit you to take public transport, but to limit your high consumption, for example, you can only do economy class, not first class， you cannot borrow money form the bank，There is very little violent crime in China, but there is a lot of financial crime, that is reason why the restrictions exIst. And the last thing, what you call social score system actually is come from Alipay ,ALipay is the biggest payment app in china, it will have a score system,if you r high score, your Alipay can became a credit card, you can pay later or split the bill, if you r in low score, you have to have money in ur Alipay then you can buy.
The example you cited is that it is also illegal in China to publish other people's videos without their consent. Publishing other people's related videos on the Internet requires consent, otherwise people need to be mosaic.😂
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Vivo en china y amo la seguridad que se siente acá hasta en el lugar más remoto y a la hora que sea .. amo Venezuela pero esta tranquilidad no la cambio por nada en el mundo .❤
Cuando le preguntabas sobre ¨crédito social¨ no te entendió bien él... lo que te estaba describiendo es el ¨criminal record¨, que existe igual en cualquier país, si cometiste crímenes graves obviamente que estarás fichado en la policía. Cruzar la calle en rojo caminando no te afecta en absolutamente NADA, salvo que lo hagas frente a un oficial de transito y te quiera multar (con 20 a 50 yuanes y solo si te pones a discutir, la mayoría de las veces los dejan seguir), te multan en el mismo lugar. Cualquier expat que haya andado en bicicleta por avenidas no habilitadas lo sabe... te paran, te retan o te multan y listo. Los conductores de automóviles tienen que seguir reglas igual que en cualquier pais y ahi si tenes puntos de la licencia que vas perdiendo si cruzas un semáforo en rojo o vas a alta velocidad... incluso si perdes todos los puntos y la licencia, el castigo es que tenes que hacer el examen de conducir desde cero. NO EXISTE EL CRÉDITO SOCIAL en China con puntos que ganas o perdés, eso es una falacia muy ridícula que repartieron los medios occidentales desde hace unos años. Los castigos de no poder tomarte un tren o ir en primera clase solo se aplican cuando alguien está procesado por estafas, te controlan que no gastes dinero en pasajes VIP y en excesos cuando en realidad deberías devolver el dinero que robaste a tus empleados y acreedores. Solo aplica a empresas e individuos a cargo de empresas en esas situaciones. Solo toma 10 minutos de pararse en un cruce de calles y ver como medio millón de motos y peatones cruzan el semáforo en rojo para entender cuál es la realidad... media China ya tendría el crédito en negativo si fuera real, jaja.
dan hasta risa las preguntas que le hacen al chino por lo ignorante que suenan. Es literal pura propaganda con la que los medios de comunicacion le han lavado el cerebro al resto del mundo para demonizar a china, los chinos, su vision, el comunismo, etc.
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@@DosLocosDeViajetry to ask more Chinese about social score, they will all be confused and tell you they don’t know what you’re talking about, because it doesn’t exist. The only thing similar to it is the credit score rating system used when someone applies for loans. But most Chinese don’t even know that.
@@DosLocosDeViaje I feel you are actually setting a trap for this young man you know? He has totally no clue for what you've talked about. This brings me to the sad scene where language and cultural barriers allow rumors to continue to spread. People with prejudice never see the truth.
@@DosLocosDeViajewhy you are so clinging on something doesn’t exist? If something not exists, and your cognition doesn’t apply to that, only means you have been brainwashed.
Me gusta mucho la manera como han presentado este viaje a China. Soy profesor de inglés y doy clases a niños chinos online desde Caracas y me ha permitido conocer un poco mas de la cultura china y su modo de vivir.
Estuve en china entre el 26 de marzo y 13 de abril, me pareció genial la seguridad y el comportamiento de las familias chinas, quiero volver, he visto toda tu serie de China y he vuelto a revivir mi pase por Beijing y Hubei.
Chaina 😂😂
about the so-called social credit points，after me arriving Canada for study，many local friends and my classmates from other region have asked me the same thing and i wasn't even know what were they talking about，i was thinking my English was too bad to understand，so i checked it online and those English and traditional Chinese sources made me speechless.
basically，this concept is made by western media about 7 years ago（the earliest video i could find on RUclips），and when they are trying to prove that this system exists，they show audiences some pictures that bags of rice with notes “30 scores”or “40 scores” on those bags，and then show security cameras that is watching u and all these clips are shown under very heavy filters，make all clips look very scary and terrible. but actrually, those scores are kind of bank points，like if u buy a specific insurance， the bank would give u like 100 points which can be used to buy some items in some shops that has partnership with that bank. they took the picture，and made a story that so many people bought it.
i think one of the biggest problems that why so many western people are so easy to buy such saying is that they don‘t understand any chinese. if they knew，the entire document would be hilarious. can u imagine chinese document points on ur Walmart points and tell Chinese people these are evil capitalism conspiracy？basically the same thing.
being bilingual can help u to understand things more correctly，even it's google translated.
There is no such thing like social credit points, I don't know this story made up by who!
There are special traffic laws to deal with violations of traffic regulations. Criminal offenses are dealt with by specialized criminal laws, same as civil disputes are handled by specialized civil laws.
Isn't this normal?
Why made up the connection between the above behavior and the non-existent social credit points?
And still, someone who has never been in China will say you are wrong, and the fact thay you have never experienced it, it doesn't mean social credit score doesn't exist, or you are not allow to talk about SCS because CPP will punish you 😂
@@katyvaldez8890 Yes, I experienced what you said, it's a reflection of how arrogant and ignorant they are.
and every debates end up with "how much did ccp pay you?" meh, just a hater thing. @@katyvaldez8890
It can surprise you how severely brainwashed by western media are people outside China. Western media is constantly demonizing anything communist and Chinese related just because such thing plays a critical roll in public opinion which directly translates into politics. In a nutshell, this brainwashing can be view as "manipulation of democracy through public opinion"
As a Chinese, I cannot understand the prejudices of foreign media and Westerners. The government does not have a social credit system and does not conduct credit scores on anyone. But it does not rule out that companies will conduct credit ratings on individuals, such as bank credit mechanisms. Alibaba has credit ratings for individuals who participate in online shopping on its platform. With a high credit rating, you can enjoy higher loans and have more rights to return goods. Public transportation companies also have the right to refuse people who repeatedly fail to observe public order and discipline to take public transportation. Isn't this normal?
It's the west propaganda and most people were fooled
I have never heard of restricting public transportation, even for people who owe money and don't pay it back. The only restrictions are on buying luxury goods or taking planes, high-speed trains, but there are no restrictions on regular travel.
At least in this video, no one is having a prejudice about your country. The youtuber is asking about some information he found on the internet. On this side of the world we don't know anything about your country, it is normal that we want to know more about it. I don't understand why every Chinese person who has commented seems uncomfortable with this video. Actually, I think most of us think that the system you have is very good.
@@lynchlee7207 Yes, there are several people who are occupying seats and refusing to give up. The high-speed rail company restricted the use of high-speed rail within a certain period of time!
try to understand them, it is not their fault. they've been brainwashed by western media to believe anything communist or Chinese related is bad or wrong and anything united states or capitalism related is good and right.
As a manager of the monitoring background, I must say that the function of these cameras is mainly traceability rather than monitoring. And those cameras belong to different departments of management, such as transportation, public security, emergency response, urban management, etc., due to the different investment time and allocation of construction funds, these departments only have their own private monitoring resources, and can not be shared with other departments, resulting in a lot of waste of resources. Now the government is integrating these monitoring resources and unifying them into the smart city management department for unified management.
en una sociedad donde hay todo tipo de persona, eso de controlar las acciones de las personas que son malas es un beneficio para las buenas personas, y poder vivir de forma tranquila y segura. ojala me sintiera segura en mi propio pais
El experimento con el celular estuvo genial... Los paisajes bellos, la seguridad fenomenal, que pechochidad de video...❤
Hola Enmanuel! Saludos a Valery… que agradables esos chicos ! Si hay seguridad en china y eso es muy bueno..
Me gustó mucho ❤ en si Yo estoy de acuerdo con las camaras de seguridad, porque te sientes protegido y seguro
Una cosa es la ley y nornas sociales de protejer al ciudadano y otra las cámaras 5G de control mental....
@@karuhayavah1800y en donde encuentras ese 5g de control mental? en las vacunas anticovid? 😂
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Así con cámaras por todas partes, queda bien registrado cuando te asaltan jeje 😜👌
En Europa critican las cámaras pero cada día la inseguridad es más grande.
En América Latina los únicos que no le gustarían ese red de cámaras son los delincuentes.Asi de sencillo.
Así es
De que sirve la privacidad ,si cuando hay inseguridad te violan tus derechos los delincuentes , yo prefiero la seguridad del sistema de china .
Muchos paises latinoamericano incluso los delicuenres tienen mas derecho q el buen samaritano
Mejor dicho imposible jeje 😉👌
In 2007, the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) launched a secret surveillance project codenamed "Prism", which directly entered the central servers of American Internet companies to mine data and collect intelligence. Nine international internet giants, including Microsoft, Yahoo, Google and Apple, participated in it.
只有毒贩/窃贼/罪犯才害怕摄像机，中美洲有很多毒贩吗？？？
@@tuckwengow2275 到处都是
Que rápido publicaron estaba esperando este video que interesante todo sobre la cultura china. Y si opino igual q lo q dice Emma al final q si ya nuestros móviles saben todo sobre nosotros prácticamente porque Google esta en todos lados pues que ellos tengan su propio sistema de cámaras para garantizar la seguridad del país y de sus ciudadanos me parece muy positivo. Una vez mas excelente trabajo muchachos. 👏👍
Excelente este video. Video enriquecedor sobre la cultura de un pais. Excelente.🙌
Este video es espectacular!!👏👏 Aclara muchas muchas dudas que siempre tenemos de este pais con tanta historia. Muchas gracias y saludos desde Madrid 🇪🇦
As a Chinese myself, I have to say your local guide here is obviously not get the meaning of your social credit system question...Ordinary Chinese just don't know this western-fabricated notion.
yeah, he seemed to have no clues of what social credit system the host was talking about..
actually, having such a credit system is not a good thing？I really want we have one, it will reduce the cost to know about a person, trust is the basement of social life, right？
Yes
@@youngyoung2980 problem is NOT having such system is good or not, it seems to me that the whole "social credit" narrative is fabricated. From my understanding, it seems what they have is very similar to those in democratic and developed countries. For example, if one has bad credit records, the bank won't grant him credit card or loan applications, or in worser case, if one has major financial violation such as scam or fraud, he'll be revoked certain rights, or if one has bad tracking records of traffic violations, he'll be forced to be reeducated by attending traffic classes or have his driver's licence revoked.. etc. maybe china has more strict rules but it seems not much of a difference from other countries?!
@@youngyoung2980 以人类目前的科技水平做不到的 怎么可能监视14亿人的一举一动 事实上你在中国大街上被抢劫 你不报警的话警察也不会知道发生什么事 信用体系我一直当模因看待 我很惊讶竟然有人当真 😅😅
Que lindo Vinci, se ve que es un chico humilde. Me alegra que se hayan encontrado con él y con el compañero Sergio de México.
Hola Dos locos de viaje...me encantan los videos de todos los lugares que visitan..recién terminé de ver el de China me gustó mucho..lo que no entiendo (y es a nivel personal claro está) porqué hablar caminando sin mostrar los lugares (me cansé de caminar) se pueden sentar en una plaza u otro lugar y no esquivando las personas y mostrar el barrio...los felicito...Bendiciones
Being Chinese. I don't understand what points foreigners are talking about. As far as I know.
1. If a person borrows money from a bank and doesn't pay it back or has financial faults. Then that person has a bad record in the financial system. In the future, there will be restrictions on loans and borrowing money. For example, you can't use the signal card to overdraw or spend on luxury goods. If foreigners say the score. Then this is the economic credit score. Only involves the bank. Many countries in the world banks will be similar regulations.
2. if the motor vehicle traffic light violation, then the driver's licence will be deducted points. The points represent the driver's driving record. Deducting more than the required number of points will require the driver to take a new driver's licence! But the points only represent the driver's good or bad driving record. It doesn't affect anything that's not related to it.
3. If there is a bad legal record, then this person in the industry or work will have an impact. Because employers will refer to this information. Only if it causes life-threatening and serious incidents will there be a legal record. Pedestrians jumping red lights or littering will not have a bad record.
4. China doesn't have a social score as mentioned in the video. There is only a credit score in the banking system! It's a score that represents a person's economic ability! There is also a legal personal record. For example, a DUI record. Drugs. Theft. That kind of record.
5. Cameras are more useful in cases where there are no witnesses. It works in disputes or accidents!
I love you
Interesante Capítulo😮 la seguridad es esencial
En el futuro visita Shanghái y varias ciudades ultra futuristicas veas nivel 🔥 Excelente trabajo👌
Wuao mi pana esta seria me a cambiado mi opinión sobre china como me gustari ir es un pais expectacular ustdes tendra mucho que contar a sus hijos cuqndo los tengas que Dios les de muchas bendiciones y sigan asi 👍👍
Le recomiendo canal JABBIERTZO, Max y Noelia, Luca & Rachel
Congrats 🎉🎈 to Niñito!! Your English doing well…👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻 🇻🇪🇻🇪 I’m so proud of you 👍🏻
Buenas mis locos me parece q Latinoamérica necesita ese sistema de seguridad, hay mucha impunidad y si somos personas de bien no importa tener cámaras q vean mientras nos sentimos seguros 😊
En realidad nadie te mira a menos que suceda algo, es para trazabilidad, es decir encontrar al responsable, más que para monitorearte las 24 horas. Son 1400 millones de personas, ¿a quien le importa lo que hace una de ellas las 24 horas? Tendría que ser una súper estrella.
Me parece muy interesante el sistema de cámaras porque está comprobado que lo hacen para garantizar seguridad y protección al ciudadano, es imposible que sea para control individual porque en un país con tantos millones de personas imposible van a pasar todo el día siguiendo en especial lo que hace cada ciudadano, eso sólo lo harán con personas sospechosas.
You are right. China has 1.4 billions people, and there is no way to monitor every citizen everyday. Doing so, Chinese government needs to hire 0.7 billion people to monitor the other half. Funny!!!
1.4 billion people😊
Shanghai China es ciudad moderna, hacen separación de basuras en cada casa, los hospitales muy modernos , educacion muy buena ,todo muy limpio. China es muy segura, estuve en visita familiar 170 días . 🤗 desde Bogotá Colombia
Las cámaras son un beneficio por la cantidad de habitantes, sino sería una segunda India…
Así es
No offence but you have expressed your concern about China’s ‘watching system’ several times. China is a huge country with really high level of demographic diversity, that’s why it’s much more important to establish a security system to ensure the stability of society and security of its people than emphasising too much on ‘privacy’. China is a smart country and it knows what is right to do at the right time, that’s why it grows so fast.
God bless you
@@DosLocosDeViajebecause of you, i know why your country is still a poor third-world country even it has huge amount of oil resource, a country full of ignorant and arrogant people can never fulfill high achievement
China bendecido pais por dioses universales. Pais que da seguridad a sus habitantes, leyes rigurosas, ciudadanos chinos receptivos a los buenos cambios. Bonito pais.
Que ordenados y honestos tienen que comportarse los chinos, me gusta su sistema de control social.
Muchas ventajas pero,Nuestra mentalidas nos lleva a ser muy negativos,con este sistema.Que cool seria poder caminar con seguridad en toda suramerica.
Que impresionante la seguridad en China, gracias por el video 🤗
Excelente video. Bendiciones
La parte sobre el intenso enfoque en la educación y los exámenes realmente me impactó. Es un mundo completamente diferente allí afuera.🤔
Por eso desde muchos años los exámenes PISA los ganan los chinos. Competencia de violín (en el más famoso de ellos, que ví hace unos años, de los cinco primeros puestos cuatro eran orientales, 3 chinos), piano, etc.
Y yo soy china.
A mi se me olvidó mi laptop en un café de Shanghai.... llegando a casa me di cuenta, regresé y ahí estaba en la mesita del restaurante después de 40 minutos
sorprendente el nivel de cultura es otro
SI LA CULTURA DE OTRO PAÍS ES PARA BENEFICIAR A SU GENTE ES BUENO LO QUE PASA ES QUE CHINA ES UN PAIS MUY DESARROLLADO Y TODO DESARROLLO TIENE SUS REGLAS AL IGUAL QUE EE.UU RUSIA Y DEMAS PAISES DESARROLLADO BENDICIONES
Enamorado de china 😻🥰 bueno en monaco , hay muchas camaras de seguridad , como en china
Saludos chicos desde Italia!! Excelente video🔝🔝
Latinoamérica sería otra si tuviera este sistema de cámaras, pero no me sorprendería que se las roben igual 😅 o que estén inoperativas, como suele suceder por acá.
no ，you can wear a mask to escape from camera.so education also is important
@@leaveme5533 well, it's a good point, but also having cameras or even electricity (lots of places in Latam lack of) can contribute to a safer place.
@@leaveme5533 There is no way, when do you put on the mask? you are watched from the moment you leave your house
Excelente video
Saludo emmanuel y Valeri desde Venezuela estado bolivar saludo y bendiciones
saludos desde yaracuy bendiciones
He's too young and could easily fall into the trap of your questions.
He also knows nothing about many of the issues.
All the hype about China in the Western media is wrong.
Firstly, there is no such thing as a social credit system in China.
What this boy is talking about are restrictions on the behaviour of "debtors".
If the debtor does not object and does not comply with the payment order, the creditor can apply to the court for enforcement.
The court will restrict the debtor's high consumption behaviour, including the purchase of luxury cars, jewellery, watches and travel, as is the case in many countries around the world.
There is another one, maybe his English is not very good, in the expression, it is always very vague.
I am not sure if he is describing the behaviour of drivers or road users.
It is immoral for pedestrians to run red lights, but not illegal.
If a driver runs a red light too many times, which is an offence, or causes a traffic accident, he will lose his driving licence.
Secondly, China's one-child policy is a restrictive behaviour, and if it is violated, it is usually punished with a fine.
It has very little binding force in rural China, where farmers usually have more than two children and there are few one-child families.
Otherwise, China would not have a population of 1.4 billion.
Even though our birth rate is gradually declining, the Chinese government does not currently have a policy to encourage childbirth.
They have only lifted the birth control policy.
agree, I work in a bank and know the system very well (from translation)
@Nuyoah-eb9yq 地方性的，最后会不会不肯定的，像郑州的就停了，不给钱了😅
This RUclipsR is from who knows where?
He deliberately sets up question traps.
On RUclips, anti-China is a source of traffic.
And this young man's English is not good.
He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
@@sdsdj626 Actually, the youtuber really liked what the government is doing for your country. I think you didn't understand anything he said. He was just curious about some topics you can find on the Internet.
@@sdsdj626 其实能看出这个UP还是赞同国内的政策，不过那个兄弟的英语差点意思，很多都没翻译清楚。
Me encantaría vivir en un país cómo China❤❤❤❤
Lo que es muy interesante es que, en mi opinión, los países en desarrollo deberían seguir a China como modelo para promover la gobernanza económica y social interna a fin de lograr el mayor progreso, especialmente cuando Venezuela es tan severamente sancionada y humillada por Estados Unidos. Sin embargo, mucha gente cree en la propaganda estadounidense e incluso se hace eco de la propaganda falsa estadounidense. Esto es realmente desconcertante.
需要良好的内部环境，并且能抵抗住外部势力的侵蚀才行！提高民众教育水平，提高经济，扩大基础建设！太多太多了
Tío, que pesadez con lo del "crédito social".
Que no existe como te lo cuentan en los medios occidentales; simplemente no tienen recursos para estar vigilando a 1 billón de personas, sería un malgasto.
Le pregunto a mis amigos chinos y algunos que viven en China y directamente no saben a que me estoy refiriendo.
Si tuvieran un sistema de crédito social como tal, no vería a los mayores escupiendo en la calle; a la gente fumando en donde no debe; a los puestos callejeros asentarse espontáneamente en donde quieran; a la gente cruzando las calles como si fuera todo para peatones; a los conductores conducir con tanta prisa que infringen reglas de conducción.
SIMPLEMENTE NO EXISTE EL CRÉDITO SOCIAL.
Cristo te ama
我住在成都，一个人口2000多万的城市，我这一生都没有见过枪支、因犯罪导致死亡的尸体，唯一见过的一次非正常死亡还是因为交通事故。然后，见到过吸毒的人但是没有见到过毒品，学生时代有被盗窃过自行车，但是在大约十几年前至今，没有亲身遭遇到过任何一起盗窃，这就是我所在的城市的治安现状，个人是比较满意当前的生活现状的。
Querido Emma, me encantan tus vídeos, ojalá puedas hacer unos junto a Gabriel y también Ramón. Tú inglés debe progresar, hay frases que no se dicen así en inglés. Les quiero Valery
Es difícil adaptarse a una cultura tan diferente a la occidental, pero nada es imposible.
Que impresionante nadie se llevó el celular
About 20 years ago, there were thieves in the streets of China, but now the thieves have disappeared.
The ubiquitous cameras make it difficult for criminals to escape punishment.
@@amandagrant4331 So only such bad persons would hate camera, they hate them because once they commit a crime, they would be caught finally
About the so called social credit system, the vlogger was asking legit questions but this boy was making many things up... Also there are many misunderstandings because of inappropriate usage of English words. For example, if you run a red light and cause an accident, you will be charged by the police and they will use the camera recordings as evidence. And then, you will have a crime record on your profile. Otherwise, no real harm, no one track you, no point deduction, no one check the cameras and nothing. Any warnings or punishments are written in the law. If it is not in the law, it does not exist. If this "red line" of score exist, like the one for drivers license, it should be written in some law. Can anyone find it? 🤔
Hola 👋🏼
El inglés de este chico chino es tan pobre que siente que no entiende completamente tu pregunta y responde algunas preguntas. En cuanto al sistema de puntos sociales que mencionas, China no lo tiene ahora, pero sí habrá una lista de personas deshonestas importantes para la sociedad en china, como cuando una persona participa en el fraude de grandes cantidades de bienes o debe mucho dinero sin devolver dinero, la policía y los tribunales restringen el tráfico cuando no pueden encontrarlo.La licencia de conducir de China tiene un sistema de puntos. si violas muchas reglas de tráfico al conducir, tu licencia de conducir será revocada y luego necesitarás volver a aceptar el examen para obtenerla. las cámaras que ves en la carretera también son para manejar estas cosas electrónicamente. las cámaras que conducen a exceso de velocidad o violan las reglas de tráfico tomarán fotos y multarán puntos.
Saludos mis dos locos de viaje desde el salvador
En realidad nadie te mira a menos que suceda algo, es para trazabilidad, es decir encontrar al responsable, más que para monitorearte las 24 horas. Son 1400 millones de personas, ¿a quien le importa lo que hace una de ellas las 24 horas? Tendría que ser una súper estrella.
El violin que viste no estaba tocando, estaba haciendo playback
Cómo gestionaron la visa ??? Desde venezuela
ENMA ,Valery en esa provincia esta la region de Liping de donde viene el 90% de lis chinos en vzla,
buen contenido sigan asi no se que tan seguro sea pero el chinito no deja de mierar el telefono XD
It’s very interesting that bloggers are so concerned about China’s surveillance and privacy issues, but Israel has passed anti-Semitic laws in the United States, and any accusations against Israel will be treated as anti-Semitic, and students were filmed supporting the Palestinian people’s anti-genocide protests. , if you participate in these protests you will be arrested, why don’t bloggers make some comparisons? ?
It’s really ridiculous. The blogger claims to be Venezuelan, but he thinks like an American from beginning to end. He thinks he is an American. He is arrogant, rude, and stupid, but he does not realize that the people who turned his country into the hell he is today are It was the Americans he admired and admired. The Americans' oppression and exploitation of South America turned South America, which could have been self-sufficient, into a paradise of drugs and crime.
Tengo sueño
En 10 años lo único que me robaron fue el casco que siempre dejaba arribita de la moto.. y en una de esas ya no estaba :/ pero para todo lo que dejo me ha ido muy bien! ja
Genial esta serie; cuáles son las redes de Sergio para seguirlo. Gracias chamo son unos duros cuando pueda volver a Venezuela ojalá y sea pronto definitivamente voy a cumplir mi sueño de viajar a esas nuestras maravillas
Holaaa muchas gracias @sergiogamez_ en instagram
Privacidad solo en las redes sociales y mucha vigilancia en cuanto a la seguridad 👍 Es el deber ser.
Ese Chino Vinci está guapo igual el mexicano..... bellos
This boy is there to practice his English speaking skills hahaha. It feels more like answering exam questions than a real conversation 😂
Que tal? Como está la familia?
En Venezuela , dejas un celular en la calle y hasta los abuelos y abuelas se pelean para robarselos 😂😂😂
Bueno depende a mi se me perdió mi cel hace una semana y unas chicas muy educadas de notaba por su forma de hablar y cuando las vi eran jóvenes estudiantes me regresaron mi tlf así que es cuestión de educación de cada quien
@@Viajero7x3 claro se puede conseguir gente muy honesta en Venezuela.
@@lishen6347 como en todos lados hay gente buena u mala cuando estuve en uriguay me robaron por ciudad vieja y por eso no generalize un pais. Creo que eso es de mente cortita.
@@joelsmh7485 seras tu, conozco muchos como los dueños de este canal que son buenas personad
Saludos, el color de las letras que escogiste, para los subtitulo para la traducción, no fue la mejor, porque no se ve bien para leerlas!
任何人都只能代表他自己，无权代表他自己以外的任何人，更别说代表一个国家。如果一开始就带着偏见并且不想打破自己固有印象，这样去旅行，注定不会有好的体验。圣经里有句话，刻薄之人注定要下地狱。在中国的老话里，刻薄之人必定口舌生疮😊相信这个美好祝福，迟早应验在每一个尖酸刻薄之人身上。来自川德里的爱❤️
I don't think the majority of Chinese people are fixated on, or preoccupied with, the social credit score in their day to day lives. It is a system that does give pause to anyone thinking of breaking the law. Is it a good system for every society? That's debatable. It does ultimately encourage good behavior and discourages bad behavior.
But there is no such system, it is fabricated by the Western media. And crossing the red light road is not a crime at all, but a matter of good moral restraint
I, as a Chinese, don't have a social credit score. I admit that it is a fancy idea, but I've only seen it in tv series like black mirror.
@@桃桃之夭 True, lived a third of my life in China, and I'm tired of listening the same Social Score bullshit over and over again... big clickbait! 😅
I don't understand why foreigners care so much about cameras. You are not criminals, normal people do not notice the camera, for us to have a camera means safety and security. Plus, you're shooting people in the street. You didn't code them either, and you're still here talking privacy?
When you are using RUclips, X, INS, FACEBOOK and iPhone, and you think about who owns your data and who can monitor the leaders of other countries, I don’t think anyone need ask this question.
Los sistemas de seguridad no son malos ... MALOS PODRÍAN SER LOS QUE LOS USAN ... Es netamente cultural
You're not used to so many cameras on the street, but you are carrying a camera and filming everyone you meet. 😅
完全正确😂
Sergio tiene alguna red social?
Quer risa vinchi parecia un npc durante la mitad del video xd, se ve bastante tranquilo el men
extraño mucho China
Porque te regresaste?
A mí me gusta Asia en especial China, Japón , Turquía
@@rayitoromes6409 porque se me venció la visa
Deberías tratar mejor a la gente que invitas a tu canal, invitaste al chino y lo dejaste atrás todo el camino, solo lo usaste cuando debía hablar°
Jajaja 😂
Hace ya un tiempo vengo mirando material de china y no deja de sorprender.
Pensar que hasta 1989 padecieron pobreza extrema con grandes hambrunas que se llevaron mas de 15M de vidas y en 3 décadas se convirtieron en la segunda economía mundial y en la fabrica del mundo.
Siempre llego a la conclusión que mientras la gente tenga un trabajo, se desarrolle profesionalmente y tenga buena calidad de vida me importa nada si es capitalismo o comunismo o cuanto sistema exista. En occidente votamos, el político miente nunca cumple y se roba todo la gente vive al dia y mal, la democracia es una ficción
Dale con los créditos de seguridad 😂
Compro o vendo por Mercado Libre también me califican! Así también el banco si no pago la tarjeta de crédito a tiempo. Me restan puntos si conduzco mal y puedo perder la licencia de conducir. Todo eso pasa en cualquier país normal, no solo en China.
Gracias a las cámaras con reconocimiento facial en los trenes en Argentina se atraparon unos cuantos prófugos y buscados, entre ellos de delitos de violaciones y abuso infantil.
Sirve para TRAZABILIDAD más que para monitoreo. ¿Se imaginan estar detrás de 1400 millones de personas?
en el año 2010 fui a Caracas dos veces, y no , no me parece un lugar seguro, mi compañero salio de calle a comprar un champú y fue robado por dos delincuentes con pistolas, en nuestro hotel hubo guardias vigilando con un arma parecido a ak47, eso no pasa ni en España ni en China, y me dio la impresion de que Venezuela es el pais casi más peligroso de Latinoamerica..... y por eso no me disgusta las camaras de vigilancia en China, estas en un lugar público, y las camaras estan instalados en lugares públicos, que hay de malo en eso??? A caso vas a hacer algo muy privado en lugares Públicos??? por algo son lugares públicos,no? de qué va esa obsesion de Privacidad andando en un lugar tan público , es que no entiendo
A los gringos no les gustara este video jajajaja, esperemos que visites Rusia algún día también tiene curiosidades interesantes.
Bro en europa y USA los down town están infestados de cámaras ,y de policías no te cuento
Otra cosa cuando te dan una puñalada o un tiro en la calle en tu país ,te joden tu privacidad ?,la chica q vive 10 años allá venezolana te contesto muy bien por cierto
1.There is No such credit system made by the Chinese government of everyday life in China. Same as most countries, Chinese banking system has credit record for financial needs. And drivers has a record only works for driving system. If your driving breaks the traffic regulations and caught by the cameras, you will receive a fine message and your driving points (usually 12 points each year) will get deducted.
2. About the cameras. There is no real person behind the cameras just being there watching everyone. If so, with 1.4 billion population, it’s really a huge amount of work and no government on earth could afford that cost. The cameras are mainly doing recording and keep them in a certain period of time, so when there’s crime happens, the police can always go back to track what happened if it’s captured by the cameras.
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con permiso y respeto,una consideracion linguistica.se dice o se expresa asi...limpiarse o sacudirse la nariz,tener flatulencias.cuando se dirije a un publico.se es lider,por eso hay que tener cuidado con el lenguaje,en el idioma español es rico en su composicion y multiple en palabras o lenguaje,de hecho existe por la real academia de la lengua,diccionario de sinonimos y antonimos.gracias y disculpe.
Excelente aporte ! Muchas gracias eyraisabelazuajemendoza. Saludos de PERÚ !!
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Glad to see you guys walking on the streets talking about realities of China but... It feels like you and the young Chinese guy are talking about totally different things 😢 He probably thinks you're referring to the 个人档案(personal resume) recorded by government. This personal resume will be used when a company wants to employee you so they check the resume and assure you didn't commit any crime 😂 How do u guys connect this to the so-called credit system. I mean, is black-list of the bank system unusual in your country....
En realidad , Singapur, Taiwán , Corea, Japón son libres pero muy seguro también.
These are tiny island nations
@@directxxxx71 不不不，台湾不是个国家。
No social credits, okay!😅
如果你们对比下30年前的中国，就会体会到这做的必要性。
the english level of this chinese boy is so limited, he cannot even 100% understanding what you are asking about , so the his answer is just so comfuse. fistly, there is no social score in china at all, and for the red light , if you are the passenger, is ok for u to break the rule, but if ur behavair(break the red light) cause any traffic accident,of course you will get into trouble, if you are the driver, you break the red light, the camera will catch your and record it, when it counts to a certain extent,for example,10 times,you driver liscen will be cancellation. secondly, what he called “system” ,actually is the personale file(that is what he want to express),but personale file is not very important for all the people, just important for those who want to be Civil servant，Especially civil servants in the justice system，because these job ask for a perfect personal file. and the other thing the chinse boy try to say is "crimal record", just like his say, if u just steal for 100yuan ,is ok, It will only educate you,but if you steal 10000yuan, its crime, and what situation you will be limit to the public transpot, is when you cannot return the 10000yuan, you will in the blacklist untill you pay all the money back, and this restriction is not to limit you to take public transport, but to limit your high consumption, for example, you can only do economy class, not first class， you cannot borrow money form the bank，There is very little violent crime in China, but there is a lot of financial crime, that is reason why the restrictions exIst. And the last thing, what you call social score system actually is come from Alipay ,ALipay is the biggest payment app in china, it will have a score system,if you r high score, your Alipay can became a credit card, you can pay later or split the bill, if you r in low score, you have to have money in ur Alipay then you can buy.
Fueron tan lejos hablar solo de la seguridad de un país???😮
tienen otros videos también
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ahora enmanuel no lo sacan de un restauran chino cuando regrese a venezuela fiebruo
Son formas de controlar una población tan grande.
si andas haciendo cosas malas no te gusta la seguridad.
你们说的所谓的社会信用，是指私企的或者银行一样的那种积分吗？就是你花的钱越多，越高？相信我，做到你们所说的那种社会信用积分，对中国来说是个超级超级大的工程量……14亿人，统一的社会信用积分吗？中国连普通话都做做不到统一啊……这根本就不可能啊……这么大的国家用一套社会信用积分，这根本就不可能的事情，想做也做不到，中国太大了，每个省份情况都不一样。
大概率是故意摸黑，迎合欧美网络巨魔的喜好罢了
El señor del minuto 14:30 no es policía ni siquiera de seguridad, lleva gorro de uygur.
The example you cited is that it is also illegal in China to publish other people's videos without their consent. Publishing other people's related videos on the Internet requires consent, otherwise people need to be mosaic.😂