THE BEST HELMINTH/SUBSUME ABILITIES AFTER DANTE UNBOUND NERFS | WARFRAME HELMINTH META LIST 2024
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Decoy is reliable now as a subsume/helminth ability @Warframe
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So according to people that run the numbers the Loki decoy has the highest threat generation in the game by a long shot I just wish it was immortal I mean come on it’s made of light it’s not even like it’s a hard light construction, it’s just a hologram you shouldn’t be able to destroy it.
Then it be broken 😊
Loki and Limbo are able to do that by combining decoy and banish
if you teleport to it i’m pretty sure it gives it temporary invincibility with the teleport augment
If ur using trinity or loki. U can apply well of life to the decoy'ed enemy to make it immune so that you or ur teammates dont kill it while it pulls aggro for free.
I think it should be count as friendly target not normal target now. 150 or 1500% hp of normal mobs is not tank enough with us
So the only thing about using nortalus (or however it’s spelled) is you’d be surprised at just how meny things you still haven’t scanned yet I’m still finding things that haven’t been fully scanned and helios has been at my side for years now apart from a few missions when I’m leveling a new companion which dosnt happen often.
I've been running Breach Surge a lot, for some reason the damage multiplier is multiplicative on the weapon you're holding, take Torid incarnon for example, if you have a multiplier of 6x that's 600% weapon damage multiplier, the highest in the game, not sure if its a bug that's causing this but through testing it's made the Torid Incarnon hit well over 70 million per shot on surged enemies
It is always like that, abit nerf but the mechanic is still the same.
Why breach surge was rarely used? I think the reason is damage output now is enough, just all.
Breach surge is one of the best cc helmith skill, one of the best skill give bonus dam( but it takes time).
I even use breach surge on 3 of mag. Then i have a wf has 4 cc skill! It is funny to play
Using breach surge on Qorvex was probably the most interesting time I had playing him. All out caster frame style grouping enemies only to watch millions of particles explode everywhere all at once for millions.
@@Gamer12666 because it is the great skill. Any hit( even skill) has a chance to bound, and kill has 100%. Iirc if you shoot the headshot, it multiply by breach surge, and the orb can headshot again!
Iirc( i cant test) it is the core of showoff case deal cap dam before: use the very high dam shot the weak target( after buff and primer) after breach surge it
I didn't understand like anything you just said....
As a Frost Main I really like Dispenser from Protea. Works well with his stationary and more defensive style of gameplay. The constant incoming energy and ammo lets you and you team unleash hell from his Snow Globe ability.
I used Gloom on my StopVa which is what happens. Nova is a great support frame for the new DEEP Arch missions too, Especially in the Defense part and disruption.
Gloom Slowva = Stopva, lol nice
While it’s not a helmith skill I’m loving sandstorm at the min and the odd thing is it makes me go faster than buletjumping it just with you could jump when using it.
Titania with loki decoy augment and Beguiling lantern augment has been pretty funny. Not crazy but like is very very funny having 2 decoys and nuking one while the other is still up or stacking them together just to make the aggro higher.
I really like shooting gallery for frames that need that extra bit of survivability in a way that constantly follows you and your teammates. Only thing it suffers from is range in some instances. Looks like it was meant to fit for mag imo
I use it on my saryn imo it works well since her abilities scale well with a little duration and high end range and i aim for mininum 200% power strength for that 100% status chance on spores with 2 corrorive archon shards for full strip works so well.
Do you need the augment for it to be good?
@@mitoesis1450 nope its very fast acting. And when you're moving around a lot, it's helpful to not worry about casting cc before diving into a group of enemies. Think of a shock mote you can put on other frames
So, if there's one helminth I can recommend for melee-focused frames/setups, especially in today's gameplay where the best primer is Diriga, with the ability to apply on average 5 different statuses at a time when using most weapons (6 with certain weapons), it would have to be Voruna's. With Diriga acting as a primer, you never have to swap off melee to prime enemies anymore (with obvious exceptions in Acolytes, Necramechs, and other beefier enemies...I still recommend bringing a Epitaph or K.Nukor as backup, since if you kill enemies *too* quickly, you won't get your next splash of primer as quickly). Voruna's is Lycath's Hunt, which drops orbs for you in a heavily-Equilibrium-flooded survivability-meta (seriously, if you're not running this mod then you're going to be so much more fragile). This ability allows you to swim in orbs when you can kill quickly with melee (which can also head-shot btw, so the headshot bonus isn't useless) and if you're running any melee-intensive frame that's using an exalted weapon, then it is even more useful since it'll keep you fed well-enough to keep your exalted weapon active longer. To top it all off, since kills on enemies with 5+ statuses (what a coincidence, that's the minimum on a typical proper Diriga setup!) refresh it, it'll basically be a cast-and-forget ability for basically the entire mission. I run it on my Valkyr personally, and this setup just makes her completely immortal now as a result.
TL;DR: Lycath's Hunt + Diriga = God-tier on any melee-focused frame.
I can sometimes just be bad at aiming for incarnon weapons, I found tesla balls are great. It paralyzes does elec dam, procs Archon stretch as well as moving and getting targets by themselves, super cheap ability and can have 4 at the same time, Also tesla bank mod isn't the worst for low level missions like defence, as with trinity shoot someone with a ball stuck and get more out of it, AOE dam in this case.
With Mesa, some will be confused by this but I get rid of Ballistic Battery, I just get into it and forget to proc it outside of something like acolyte farming, I actually switch with Ivara's quiver, giving me 4 abilities added on, for spy I got sleep and noise arrows, I have impowered dashwire for something like acolyte or steel path and I can cloak for resist Status Effects. like knockback
would the xatas whisper interaction also work with phenmor 4th gen 50% chance for 2000% dmg increase on non crit?
I'm still using GLOOM for some warframes with high efficiency 145% range at least and some good strength.
It slows down enemies and allows you to regenerate health on any damage. It is very good for Saryn since the spores are making damage every second so every second you regenerate health.
The second build for Saryn is with Roar to increase all abilities damage and weapons, depending on what mission I'm doing.
Roar with protea's passive ability and molt augment i guess, I don't use spec intesify for it because i like to use her 3rd ability with double drop which scales with strength and good for support
I agree with those but i like gloom and silence a lot on low range but high strength for gloom and low range high duration on silence .. between gloom and epitaph 80 % or more of the enemy,s are stun locked and focus is easy on hard tagets etc .. and silence is just great for speed running 🏃 in general .. more so gloom on my loki/ash build .. or subsuming ash,s armour strip works great ether way .. i love theres so many ways now to build your warframe for different game modes and tests .. ty for another great video.. big ❤ tenno as always 😊
I always used lowki for Spy and rescue missions. His decoy pulls threat and keeps the hostage alive. Thanks for your info on the changes, and updates. As a long time player I just play with old style builds so to speak becuase Changes happen all the time, and I don't like to change everything to META. I still use roar for frost and the tenant arcplasmor evern though there are better wpns.By the way..no one talks about HOUNDS as companions which are actually really good.
Wukong is 100× better for those mission types
Nice video and informations. How did u get this simulacrum Deimos visual?
From loid in the new dante offering.
Hildryn + Gloom is my most reliable way to frame elite deep archimeda with Pub squads. Especially for the mirror defence part.
what you said can be translated to "I'm bad at the game"
Looks like I'm going to play around with decoy and the MIGHTY SEER
One thing that ppl tend to forget about Airburst is its augment mod, giving extra dmg to your secondaries.
still rocking gloom on my main man gauss and kullervo but im still trying to find out whats the best one for a negative duration max ranged kullervo(focus on the 3-1 combo) cuz with this build I barely turn on Gloom and I only do if I need to slow down enemies for a while
Yareli./dagaths is prob better/// nova but tbh just run life steal on ur melee wep /volt is always nice but not needed bc of tp same with nezha,molt but I think ur best bets in order from semi worst to best are voruna,vulkyr,mesa,dagath,hilds especially if u can usebthe augment and finally xaku if u wanna get funky run no health,shield stuff except for % energy to shield and use the finisher to invisible arcane it's stupid good -(if ur 1 or 3 let's u stealth/backstab them youll be almost invincible) plus with xakus whisper stack a bane mod and genuinely just 1shot everything -(if his 1-3 don't allow it u can trade xatas for equinox night form ie something that'll let u get free stabs for the arcane or u could use ash shurakin for arm strip but that's more tendinous and prib worse than data, everything else its just fun 😂-(sorry i just kinda shat this out
Tbh for weps I'd say cornith brinped out with critd,multi as that'll clear with ur 3 too ,the gotva p-(or even a peragil,sporthrix+aug for stank factor or the vectus with one in the chamber mods,Prisma grinlock -(knell,The 2ndary 1 shot repeater style,duel somethings xD they're secondary auto shotguns -(tbh brinco prime,lex,vasto, with the incarn or the sisters nukor the cycron or something for primer and then either heavvvvvvvvvy zaw,heavy melee,kyrst p as i think it has the highest base crt stuff yyeb rraukadark. Dagger+augment or ur fav melee with melee support arcanes and I think the fluctus archgun -(if u can use abilities while its out as u can build crit and ahoot thru walls with it) o and the zenith is akways good 2 -(there's alit of good weps tbh the throwabke melees too etc etc xD sorry for the spews
What happens if you put nourish on proteas 4th ability and take advantage of the 3rd 100% ability buff?
you’ll get more energy, but you really don’t need it if you slot in equilibrium and run zenurik(not required). I recommend replacing her 4 with a grouping ability
Nourish on wisp just breach spam and invincible.
Roar on Rev cause support.
And Trinity with pillage. Slap someone with two. Link n bless. Spam 1. Repeat . Steadfast kicks for this build. You will rarely die.
Personal preference but I like energise muntions slap it on mirage or gauss and let it rip
Have you tried decoy saryn? Holy crap that is op
Decoy gives saryn such a massive CC potential it is crazy. Did you keep her molt or subsume over it?
Genuine question, is that your voice or an ai? Am i tweaking?
It's Ai Voice
We have the what companion now that can group enemys? Can someone explain? Which companion can group enemys?
Nautilus has a precept mod [cordon] that pulls enemies from up to 30m. It has a cooldown of 10 sec but can be reduced using [manifold bond]
@@ttrobin96 thank you!
Pair the new loki mod on Sryan with spores and watch the madness spread.
That's pretty much ancient technique, before we had to ask team mates to take Loki for that, with Helmith it's even easier.
another big W for decoy over resonator, resonator is a charm, not a threat boost, eximus dont give a shit about charm anymore and will basically ignore it as a helminth since only mallet makes it cause even player levels of threat (and no more than that), decoy is MAX THREAT and eximus will go ham on it like any other enemy.
Man.. I took a break from the game. My wisp build with eclipse and doing heavy attacks with a zaw with exodia contagion.. Its all in ruins 😭. Wtf are DE doing to the nuke builds.
Any suggestions on how to make everything go red crit and melt? I dont have any of those pretty shards either.. 😅
I AM PEEEVED. BRO I was wondering why I couldn't see your content. RUclips unsubbed me 😢
Tbh I find it interesting how Pillage is on 4th place higher than terrify and yet forgot to mention the need for 350-400 power strength for full stripping capabilities... how curious.
😢shield gating lol
Pillage costs less energy, strips shields, gives you over shields and doesn’t make enemies run away, and 328 is not that bad especially with milt augmented etc
Firewalker because firewalking.
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I dont use Helminth, I have all the "best" helminths but i just dont like the Helminth system.
The abilities you can subsume are boring and dont really help you flesh out the identity of your frame. Unless you want to be edgey and put gloom on your frame.
Id there was more diversity id be totally down to use it but as of right now id feed my helminth to my helminth because its just boring like Saryn.
1. Nourish: I use this too much for energy economy.
2. Tharros Strike: Both my Wisp Prime and Kullervo use this ability to armor strip Acolytes.
3. Tempest Barrage: Amplifies my damage for Dante and creates a Corrosive Hurricane for Zephyr
4. Terrify: I enjoy armor stripping, but I’m not a big fan of watching my enemies run away.
5. Pillage: It’s fun to see my Wisp Prime have armor stripping and dual survivability. 🙂 However, I had to remove it.
I think it's funny
What's funny 😊
loki decoy is worthless pass a certain level because it will get one shot damage decoy in only usable solo because people kill everything super fast why are we acting as if this augment changes anything significant it does not.
Why hide behind "subjective"
Sickening Pulse because Line of Sight downgrade META
I´m first.
No one cares
Yes we do .. shows u like this content creator a lot and u have him on alert .. great job tenno n big ❤ to you .. 😊