MOZA TSW vs Logitech G29 - Should You Upgrade?

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @AP_101
    @AP_101  2 месяца назад +2

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    • @erikgaming551
      @erikgaming551 11 дней назад

      A question. If i buy it with the link, do i get pedals with it?

  • @5-Consecutive-Hairpin-Turns
    @5-Consecutive-Hairpin-Turns 5 месяцев назад +64

    Moza TSW (+the base so it actually works) is a millionaire's wheel, it costs as much as my entire setup

    • @liamb.2506
      @liamb.2506 5 месяцев назад +20

      just because you have a cheap setup doesn't mean other products are expensive lol

    • @flazeboi
      @flazeboi 5 месяцев назад +8

      ​The TSW IS an expensive wheel though.Anyone that has even the slightest idea of the current economy will agree with me when i say 300 dollars is TOO MUCH for a wheel that is effectively a glorified paperweight if you dont even have a moza base to begin with. Now,if you have the money to blow for it,sure,go for it,its great as far as i know.But you gotta know that sim racing in general is an expensive hobby.NOTHING is cheap,even the "low-end" devices start from 250 dollars and can even extend to 400.

    • @MikoOhneHose
      @MikoOhneHose 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@flazeboiAnd anyone who spends any time in the sim racing / gaming world know that anything that's not an all-in-one system like the G29 just costs that kind of money.
      And since you're so great at economics: ever heard of supply and demand? This is a niche product; they will not sell as many of those truck wheels as basic racing wheels so it has be a bit more expensive, especially because nobody else has ever developed something like this.

    • @flazeboi
      @flazeboi 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@MikoOhneHose First of all,i havent said im good at economics. Im a fucking teenager my guy. I just said i have a SLIGHT idea of it. Plus,economy AND supply demand in different countries change drastically. In where i live,sim trucking is pretty much dominant over sim racing so the moza wheel would theoretically be not so expensive. Though,DD wheels are kind of very short in supply here so maybe im not all that qualified to talk about it after all.

    • @flazeboi
      @flazeboi 5 месяцев назад

      @@MikoOhneHose Oh,and not to mention im not saying the Moza TSW is not worth it.I really do think its a great wheel.
      Im just saying its expensive.Especially when you consider it costs DOUBLE the minimum wage.(dont know if its the same on america though)

  • @Excited_Cameleon
    @Excited_Cameleon 5 месяцев назад +9

    Great video! 💯

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks 💯

  • @yoandeul9297
    @yoandeul9297 5 месяцев назад +6

    for ets2 or ats I’d like to use TSW

  • @Swing-power
    @Swing-power 5 месяцев назад +27

    As much as the Moza looks like a great wheel, I simply cant justify the price and the needed space to get one right now. My room is already fairly small and im battling for space with VR, my collections, my monitors and my television.
    But if i ever end up getting more space or move out, this will definitely be on my mind.
    Great video as always AP101, have a great day.

    • @sinkzscs
      @sinkzscs Месяц назад

      600 cheap lil bro

  • @AP_101
    @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +8

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  • @oladufka
    @oladufka 5 месяцев назад

    It would be very interesting to compare Moza TSW with Fanatec Nascar in the context of a truck simulator. Yes, this steering wheel was not designed specifically for this, but it is the second largest steering wheel after TSW. And it also Direct Drive!

  • @weleonn
    @weleonn 18 дней назад

    I would recommend getting the normal R5 bundle for like 500 bucks and then later get the TSW wheel. If you dont want the ESC wheel you can also get the bundle with the R5 and TSW for like 600 bucks

  • @robblack8754
    @robblack8754 5 месяцев назад +4

    Direct drive is awesome and definitely worth it over gear systems like the G29.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      Totally agree!

    • @iant1891
      @iant1891 3 месяца назад

      100% I've been playing racing/sim games for abt 10-12 years and i just got a Moza R12 with all the peripherals like shifters and wheels and it's an extreme game changer. Sooo smooth and so much more fun to drive. I can actually keep playing all day if i'd want to and not get bored.

  • @Feelo98-i8i
    @Feelo98-i8i 3 месяца назад +1

    I think for beginners you should use a budget friendly wheel then upgrade later. Of course it's up to you. Another budget friendly wheel to check out is the Logitech g923 offers good performance for ETS2

  • @itsavennreports6024
    @itsavennreports6024 4 месяца назад

    WOW! Gaming Hardware are getting at other level
    Hope you're well my old friend !! Love for Nepal from AVEN in Portugal !!!
    :DDD

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      Hey Aven, how have you been? 😁 😁

  • @kevoman2020
    @kevoman2020 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video. I am planning to upgrade to the Moza.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад +1

      That's awesome to hear! Congratulations in advance!

  • @greatkingrat
    @greatkingrat 5 месяцев назад

    I just got it….went from Thrustmaster TX Leather edition to it and it’s a big jump….but then it cost almost as much as my 4080 so it’s not cheap for the ecosystem….you do get what you pay for though, so I agree with this video, it’s a game changer and total immersion….goes well with my VR setup.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      That's awesome! Congratulations 🎊

  • @unstoppable2180
    @unstoppable2180 4 месяца назад

    I'd only get it because it's a more realistic wheel and the upcoming paddle stalks. Although more rotation on G29 would be nice, it does me perfectly.

  • @dakotaodum5200
    @dakotaodum5200 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome video 😀👍

  • @lanfenglxf
    @lanfenglxf 5 месяцев назад +1

    Look forward to upcoming stalk with tsw😄

  • @prof.currywurst7687
    @prof.currywurst7687 5 месяцев назад +2

    rn i am playing with mouse steering an im planning on getting the hori truck control system when it releases

    • @MujoNovak
      @MujoNovak 5 месяцев назад +1

      better to buy new mouse.

  • @Inferiis
    @Inferiis 5 месяцев назад +13

    As much as I'd love such a Moza wheel, everything is a paid extra. You pay the price of a G29 for the wheel, another time for the base (or you can get a cheaper R5, for ETS I don't think it matters), the shifter, pedals and future sticks also sold separately.. Overall you're looking at a 1000$ setup, or you can just wait until Christmas, when Hori will release the all-in-one ETS kit, that includes everything you need and more (For example a H shifter with 30 or so extra, ETS function labeled, buttons).

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +7

      That's simply because MOZA is using direct drive technology and hori uses gear/belt just like the cheaper G29.
      All direct drive wheels come separately. It's not just moza doing this. If you look at any other direct drive wheel from any other rand, you will see that wheels and bases come separate.
      Direct drive is way way better than gear/belt for force feedback. That's why it's more expensive. And the other benefit is modularity. You can easily change to a car wheel or even a f1 wheel. you can't really do this with gear/belt driven wheels
      Yes I agree that it's expensive, but you get what you pay for. It's designed to be a high end product for enthusiasts

    • @lucaspajak9352
      @lucaspajak9352 5 месяцев назад

      I think i will wait for Hori.
      Hori look very very good.
      Moza made it difficult to sell it separately.

    • @Inferiis
      @Inferiis 5 месяцев назад +1

      @AP_101 I know it's better for racing, but for ETS it's not a big difference.
      Ps. The G series is also modular, you just have to unscrew the middle 6 screws

    • @MikoOhneHose
      @MikoOhneHose 5 месяцев назад +6

      You have to consider that while the Hori is a bit cheaper, you're also paying a lot of money for an outdated technology and a setup that can only really be used for trucking. With Moza, you get a current technology that is of way higher quality than anything gear- and belt-driven wheels could ever deliver and you get an open platform that can be used for all sorts of driving.
      Also, Hori is really only a bit cheaper. In my country, I'd pay 600€ for the Hori while a Moza R3 Bundle (400€) + the truck wheel (+300€) would be only 100€ more - and in that setup you'd have two wheels, considering the bundle comes with one.

    • @Inferiis
      @Inferiis 5 месяцев назад

      @MikoOhneHose for that price it might be a good deal, but since I already own a G series, the Hori one looks better for me. It has all the functionality premapped

  • @andreaska777
    @andreaska777 Месяц назад

    I was thinking to buy the truck wheel bundle but Im from Greece and they dont deliver here.. So im trying to find a shop that delivers in Greece in order to buy it

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  Месяц назад

      Do they not deliver to greece from China when you order from the website?

    • @andreaska777
      @andreaska777 Месяц назад

      @ From Moza’s website they don’t have delivery option to Greece.. They have Bulgaria, North Macedonia, but Greece no I don’t know why.

  • @nicholasross7542
    @nicholasross7542 5 месяцев назад

    still on my g27, installed an 18 inch sci wheel last year

  • @Nicolas19200B
    @Nicolas19200B 5 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to the comparison with the hori truck control system I play on t818 but don't want to switch to moza for ets2 because in simracing my t818 with sf1000 wheel is enough for me especially since I mainly play ets2 and ats.

  • @T3Houdini
    @T3Houdini 4 месяца назад

    Hey, just a quick question, how did you get the rpm lights to work in ets? ive tried many times and watched so many videos this is basically the only one i can find where someone has them working

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      I assume you mean for G29... You need to have FanaLED software. You may need to decrease some parameters like upshift and pitlimiter, I can't remember exactly, but yeah I also only discovered this when making this very video... after owning the G29 for 3 years 🥲
      For MOZA TSW, it works without any additional setup

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      fanaleds.com/downloads

    • @T3Houdini
      @T3Houdini 4 месяца назад

      ​@AP_101 nope I meant the TSW but I've figured it out now

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      @@T3Houdini Oh that's awesome! When did you purchase the MOZA TSW?

    • @T3Houdini
      @T3Houdini 4 месяца назад

      ​@AP_101 just last week, I originally had the formula 2.5x fanatec gear and although not the best for trucking it was a wheel at that, saw the moza TSW and knew I would have to change to moza and get it 😅 apparently in pit house I have to go to menu and on the right find euro truck and click configure, that's all the problem was

  • @gamehub-h1d
    @gamehub-h1d 5 месяцев назад +2

    I'm using LOGITECH and I'm driving the way TSW driving 🎉🎉🎉

  • @ANTONHY63
    @ANTONHY63 5 месяцев назад

    Honestly if I'd buy an expensive setup I'd rather prefer to buy the new HORI TruckSystem. Its expensive asf but in we're aleready spending a lot I feel that setup will be way better and its even waaay cheaper than the full set of MOZA its almost half of the price for the same kit which its almost funny. For now as 90% of the people say, G29 its just the best you can get for the less. Anyways, great video I hope we see more vids like this cuz this one are really useful too.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks, glad you found the video useful.
      The price difference is simply because MOZA is using direct drive technology and hori uses gear/belt just like the cheaper G29.
      All direct drive wheels are more expensive than the gear/belt driven wheels from any brand.
      Direct drive is way way better than gear/belt for force feedback, durability and quietness. And the other benefit is modularity. You can easily change to a car wheel or even a f1 wheel. you can't really do this with gear/belt driven wheels
      Yes I agree that it's expensive, but you get what you pay for. It's designed to be a high end product for enthusiasts. If you ask the sim racing community, they'll say that it's an expensive hobby

  • @AustraliaWorldwide
    @AustraliaWorldwide 5 месяцев назад +4

    so the new wheel has all kinds of parts is like what $2000 $3000 australian lol when u can pick up a real car for the price not to bang up sorry but as nice as it is sorry but no

  • @Demy1970
    @Demy1970 5 месяцев назад +2

    However, if you also play car sim racing games you might not want this large wheel?

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +1

      Well it's not like the wheel would be incompatible... you can even set any angle of rotation, all the way from 90 degrees to 2700. But I guess it wouldn't be as immersive or realistic for a car driving, well especially fast paced racing. Maybe I should first try one day 🤣

    • @Inferiis
      @Inferiis 5 месяцев назад

      @@AP_101 not that a G29 is realistic, that's smaller than a car wheel. Somewhere in between. I'm sure there are options for that too.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      I think we meant the MOZA TSW for car games ​@@Inferiis

    • @MujoNovak
      @MujoNovak 5 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely a point. Too big for racing.

  • @ramiabukhaled6460
    @ramiabukhaled6460 4 месяца назад

    How did you make the RPM light in the G29 works with ETS2

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад +2

      You need to have FanaLED software. You may need to decrease some parameters like upshift and pitlimiter, I can't remember exactly

    • @ramiabukhaled6460
      @ramiabukhaled6460 4 месяца назад

      @AP_101 thanks brother I do oun respect for you because you answered me .'even the video long time ago thanks dear

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      @@ramiabukhaled6460 I am glad to help! Hope you have got it working now!

  • @DieselDrifter2011
    @DieselDrifter2011 2 месяца назад +1

    I guess the only way to have those expensive wheels is to be famous and get sponsored by them.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  2 месяца назад

      Well fundamentally no, MOZA would be out of business if that was true 🤣 🤣 Trust me, there are people who spend a lot of money on driving setups. A few have even purchased after watching these videos using my link!

  • @mo0nd94
    @mo0nd94 5 месяцев назад

    would a setup with a r5 wheel base still be a good setup ?

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes I think it will still be very good for truck simulators!

  • @rumqnacherkezova1913
    @rumqnacherkezova1913 5 месяцев назад

    Do you know if the stalk cluster from moza can be used with any wheel or only the truck wheel

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure it's only for moza wheel bases, because it not only has to connect to the wheelbase, but it also sits on/around the base. There's a small chance it could work with third party wheelbases through the moza hub but it's physically impossible to attach it to fixed wheel setups like the G29

    • @rumqnacherkezova1913
      @rumqnacherkezova1913 5 месяцев назад

      @AP_101 Thanks! All I really wanted to do is to get a bigger quick release racing wheel and attach it to the moza quick release adapter, since I wanted something bigger and cheaper.

  • @Marian_Mocanu
    @Marian_Mocanu 4 месяца назад

    a fan fact the truck also have 900 degrees of rotation

  • @EMIN-hf6ew
    @EMIN-hf6ew 2 месяца назад

    I’m going to buy HORI, and collect money for MOZA in future 😊😊😊😊

  • @larsjohansen821
    @larsjohansen821 5 месяцев назад

    Looks good, but is it also supported on linux? If not then it's not a wheel for me

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +2

      www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/17ebt58/sim_racing_on_linux/

    • @larsjohansen821
      @larsjohansen821 5 месяцев назад

      @@AP_101 Thanks for the link, but reading it i reckon it will not be supporting the FF

  • @JimmySlacksack
    @JimmySlacksack Месяц назад

    is a G29 a worthy upgrade from a controller?

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, it's an upgrade but G29 is now almost 10 years old, and it uses the old gear system for force feedback, which also makes a lot of noise. Direct drive is totally silent and is much better for force feedback, durability, and modularity (can swap wheels)

    • @Fuchs85DE
      @Fuchs85DE День назад +1

      I use the G29 with the right parameters it is not too bad to drive and much better than a controller!
      You need to use steering non linearity at 1.2 to 1.25
      That way you drive much better in Highway situations. However you still feel the gears compared to moza...

  • @MujoNovak
    @MujoNovak 5 месяцев назад +2

    Why comparing G29 if G923 is out for a long time?
    If logitech is 4x cheaper thats not budget wheel. Moza cost 4 x more which defines him too expensive for what it is. And when will be so widely sell isnstores worldwide? I think never.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +3

      The main reason I compared with Logitech G29 is because that's the only other wheel I have. I don't have a big collection of wheels 😅
      The main reason for the big price difference is the direct drive technology vs gear/belt driven wheels. It's not just MOZA that's expensive, any direct drive wheel from any brand is expensive. And you get what you pay for. Direct drive is many many times better than gear/belt driven wheels for force feedback, durability and quietness. And the other benefit is modularity. You can easily change to a car wheel or even a f1 wheel. you can't really do this with gear/belt driven wheels
      Yes I agree that it's expensive, but you get what you pay for. It's designed to be a high end product for enthusiasts

    • @MujoNovak
      @MujoNovak 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@AP_101 ok, I understand now. Direct drive is the point.

    • @jjvigil22
      @jjvigil22 4 месяца назад +1

      Logitech g923 MSRP is $399.
      Moza r3 direct drive bundle is $399.
      Moza truck wheel is $329.
      I wouldnt say this is 4x the cost. People really need to do their research before talking about costs and 4x this or that. Doing this deters people from potentially buying into a better evosystem.

    • @iant1891
      @iant1891 3 месяца назад

      @@jjvigil22 Exactly. Yeah it's expensive but you won't have a cheap plastic wheel that feels like a kids toy. The Moza prices are very good imo.

  • @donjuan1364
    @donjuan1364 5 месяцев назад +1

    Will this work on beammg

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, I saw someone on youtube using MOZA TSW to drive a truck in beamng :)

  • @AdamMcDermott-i1t
    @AdamMcDermott-i1t 4 месяца назад

    Should do differences between Thrustmaster wheel moza wheel

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад +1

      Sorry but I do not have any Thrustmaster wheels :D

  • @notcr2s
    @notcr2s 5 месяцев назад

    Why does everyone call logitech budget meanwhile its not even cheap, id pick the aerosoft truck wheel instead cuz its got more stuff

  • @Freddygaming_Emkfreddy84
    @Freddygaming_Emkfreddy84 5 месяцев назад +2

    Pour +1000€ .. oui c’est sûr qu’il n’y a pas photo 🤣🤣

  • @kelvinknk
    @kelvinknk 5 месяцев назад

    It’s wild.

  • @TheRedStar95YTB
    @TheRedStar95YTB 5 месяцев назад

    Well i cant buy the moza setup cause i dont have enough money. I can only buy the G29 but in the future yeah

  • @rasmusnielsen1581
    @rasmusnielsen1581 4 месяца назад

    hori truck wheel looks alot better/ expensive than it actully is it cost nearly the half of moza and u get the wheel, shifter and so at once tol nearly half the price, moza+ shifter it 1129,90 us$ than hori 599 us$

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  4 месяца назад

      You should Google the difference between Direct Drive and Gear/belt driven wheels. MOZA is direct drive

  • @toasterghost6113
    @toasterghost6113 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice

  • @AnuPrajapati-qr2vx
    @AnuPrajapati-qr2vx 5 месяцев назад

    Nice ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @lukasi02
    @lukasi02 2 месяца назад

    1. Moza is over 600,- 2. to big for car games, 3. it takes a lot of space and 4. its not easy removable.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  2 месяца назад

      Actually it's modular, you can quickly take out the wheel and swap with a racing wheel. It's quick release technology.

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  2 месяца назад

      It takes a lot of space.... Because it's supposed to be a truck wheel.
      It's like 10 kg hanging off the edge of the table, so I would hope it's attached firmly...

  • @ethanhunt6763
    @ethanhunt6763 5 месяцев назад

    Try Hori

  • @korenis
    @korenis 5 месяцев назад +1

    ok

  • @zefrango5988
    @zefrango5988 5 месяцев назад +7

    im waiting for HORI wheel, much better and more realistic

    • @C20F
      @C20F 5 месяцев назад

      Lmao, better and incorrect with fuckin' gears.

  • @pulentoman7793
    @pulentoman7793 5 месяцев назад +3

    I don't even have a wheel.
    No way in hell i'm paying 350-400 dollars (price here) for a G29

    • @Fuchs85DE
      @Fuchs85DE День назад

      I got my G29 for 120 Dollars (converted) used in very good condition. There are used ones with shifter for 140 Dollars in my region...

  • @zoom4ks
    @zoom4ks 16 дней назад

    какой вообще смысл сравнивать эти рули? глупый ролик, не несущий смысловой нагрузки...

  • @jacquesdemaille8653
    @jacquesdemaille8653 5 месяцев назад

    As a VR player, not worth it. Sticking with my G29. Sure the bigger wheel would be nice but more buttons with a VR headset can get messy.

    • @C20F
      @C20F 5 месяцев назад

      ...or you don't use the buttons...

    • @jacquesdemaille8653
      @jacquesdemaille8653 5 месяцев назад

      @@C20F or I’ll spend the money on something I really need. 😜

    • @C20F
      @C20F 5 месяцев назад

      @@jacquesdemaille8653 Ya like the latest iPhone or some nonsense like that probably.

  • @col0ns-b7x
    @col0ns-b7x 5 месяцев назад

    can these two be compared😂😂😂

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      The purpose 0:30

  • @karmaluther9266
    @karmaluther9266 5 месяцев назад

    Le G29 fait Le JoB 🤨

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад

      A budget phone gets the job done but some people still buy premium high end phones 🤨

    • @karmaluther9266
      @karmaluther9266 5 месяцев назад

      @@AP_101 Hi Boss Everyone I am not everyone😊 life of a laptop 6 years as soon as it works why change? The monza is well and good but the G29 is enough for me👊🏾

  • @sandcastleboy7242
    @sandcastleboy7242 5 месяцев назад +1

    Overpriced wheel stick with a budget wheel it does exactly the same job , or go back and tell moza to reduce the price by half and then every one can afford one

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +2

      you could say the same about a budget vs flagship phone and a budget office pc vs a high end gaming pc.... there is obviously a difference :)

    • @C20F
      @C20F 5 месяцев назад +2

      lol, no. The G29 is however overpriced as it relies on 20 year old tech...

  • @k.d.1019
    @k.d.1019 5 месяцев назад +3

    the price difference though 😭🙏

  • @juanma4372
    @juanma4372 5 месяцев назад

    Hori wheel is much better in my opinion

    • @AP_101
      @AP_101  5 месяцев назад +1

      MOZA uses direct drive technology and hori uses gear/belt just like the cheaper G29.

    • @C20F
      @C20F 5 месяцев назад

      It's not.

    • @lanfenglxf
      @lanfenglxf 5 месяцев назад

      Hori wheel is just a bigger version of Logitech G29

  • @beaman_2000
    @beaman_2000 5 месяцев назад

    Chinese here🙌 Moza sales tsw at a very low price in my country, I’m willing to upgrade!😊🚛🛞