As a happy owner of a stronger Moza base, that came after T300, this package is so, so good. As you said at the beginning, it was a fiction to dream about DD wheel in that price range. It basically destroyed the belt competition from Thrustmaster. I see no reason to go for their bases now DD truly is a gamechanger, you can’t imagine how big
My best mate has upgraded from a Thrustmaster TMX to this. He plays f124 and ACC on xbox. He is like a small child on Christmas morning with this thing. Says its a massive jump in detail and ffb compared to the TMX.
I just bought an R5. 5nm is plenty for me. Fortunately I still have my ancient Fanatec load cell equipped pedals, so the ones supplied are in the garage gathering dust. It's a shame you can't just buy the wheel/base without the pedals.
Yes. I read that Moza now sells this wheel rim as standalone, so you can pair it with the R5, R9, and R12 and be able to use it on Xbox. Just make sure that you buy the Xbox compatible ES Wheel.
@@davidhernandez6505 wow! play station compatible base is pending form moza to complete the circle! xbox wheel with ps compatible base.. no more GT7 Secondary rigs..
Yes, R5 will work. As long as you have the Moza Xbox Wheel ESX and Moza peddles, then you MUST plug them into the back of the R3, R5, R12 and the newer versions of R16 and R21. R9 does not have a peddle plug. Therefore R9 will not work for Xbox.
Saw RC's video pop up midway through editing my own, I sat there and thought 'great minds think alike' It seems that Moza's XBOX compatibility is all within the steering wheel but they don't make it very clear on the site. I'm sure someone with a more Xbox-considerate video can clear it up!
@@wallruss1480 Seems like this is probably the rationale behind the V2 versions of wheelbases, so they can all accept 'plug into base' peripherals and allow this to work
I can't imagine a scenario where I'd pay 440 € for a ~4 nm wheelbase and sub-par pedals. I mean it's currently not an option, but Fanatec's CSL DD offering seems a lot more interesting since it allows for the 8nm upgrade and has better (and also upgradeable) pedals. In a world where Fanatec and Simagic exist I really wonder who Moza is targeting. Maybe that's the point? Fanatec doesn't exist?!
The pedals are better than Fanatec's standard CSL pedals, mostly due to that Pit House customisation which for some reason eludes Fanatec even to this day. Fanatec has some great plus points and you're right about a clearer/easier upgrade path, but if you put me in a race against myself where one version of me has the R3, and the other has a 5nm CSL DD bundle, the R3 would win by a healthy margin
That's the thing, fanatec doesn't exist. There's no way to contact fanatec quickly if u have problems, and do you really want to buy from a company who just went for insolvency???
@@spoodmanire I don't know of any mods from first hand experience, I just recommend tweaking the brake curve in Pit House to suit your style - as I did!
It's possible to use the Logitech spring on the brakes by using a combination of the threaded tube Logitech uses then u can put it on the brake pedal like the brake mod does, definitely makes it satisfactory for a couple of months until u get loadcell
I'm not sure what the problem is with this review. He points out many times that this wheel is a short term prospect due to its lack of power, and that the pedals aren't great.
As a happy owner of a stronger Moza base, that came after T300, this package is so, so good. As you said at the beginning, it was a fiction to dream about DD wheel in that price range. It basically destroyed the belt competition from Thrustmaster. I see no reason to go for their bases now
DD truly is a gamechanger, you can’t imagine how big
I’m gonna start sim racing near Christmas hopefully, I now know what wheel I’m picking up
Buy once cry once get the moza R12 at least the R9.
@@vandrayketv1316 too expensive
My best mate has upgraded from a Thrustmaster TMX to this. He plays f124 and ACC on xbox. He is like a small child on Christmas morning with this thing. Says its a massive jump in detail and ffb compared to the TMX.
That's awesome, I love hearing that kinda stuff
I really wanted to buy this but went with T300 because of PlayStation compatibility. Really wish this had it.
I'm thinking of buying a Moza R5 in winter. So this video is going to be a huge help to me before the final decision 😊
I wonder why they don’t put a rubber stop in on the brake like g29. That’s an easy way to simulate a braking threshold
very interesting! THanks!
I just bought an R5. 5nm is plenty for me. Fortunately I still have my ancient Fanatec load cell equipped pedals, so the ones supplied are in the garage gathering dust. It's a shame you can't just buy the wheel/base without the pedals.
Maybe you can sell them. I mean they're brand new and they are better than no pedals or the cheap ones from a TS150 etc.
so many r3 reviews popping up! will this xbox compatible wheel works with r5 base with xbox?
Yes. I read that Moza now sells this wheel rim as standalone, so you can pair it with the R5, R9, and R12 and be able to use it on Xbox. Just make sure that you buy the Xbox compatible ES Wheel.
@@davidhernandez6505 wow! play station compatible base is pending form moza to complete the circle! xbox wheel with ps compatible base.. no more GT7 Secondary rigs..
Yes, R5 will work.
As long as you have the Moza Xbox Wheel ESX and Moza peddles, then you MUST plug them into the back of the R3, R5, R12 and the newer versions of R16 and R21. R9 does not have a peddle plug. Therefore R9 will not work for Xbox.
Saw RC's video pop up midway through editing my own, I sat there and thought 'great minds think alike'
It seems that Moza's XBOX compatibility is all within the steering wheel but they don't make it very clear on the site. I'm sure someone with a more Xbox-considerate video can clear it up!
@@wallruss1480 Seems like this is probably the rationale behind the V2 versions of wheelbases, so they can all accept 'plug into base' peripherals and allow this to work
I can't imagine a scenario where I'd pay 440 € for a ~4 nm wheelbase and sub-par pedals. I mean it's currently not an option, but Fanatec's CSL DD offering seems a lot more interesting since it allows for the 8nm upgrade and has better (and also upgradeable) pedals.
In a world where Fanatec and Simagic exist I really wonder who Moza is targeting. Maybe that's the point? Fanatec doesn't exist?!
People paid similar money for trustmaster with plastic potentiometer pedals
What do you mean subpar?
The pedals are better than Fanatec's standard CSL pedals, mostly due to that Pit House customisation which for some reason eludes Fanatec even to this day. Fanatec has some great plus points and you're right about a clearer/easier upgrade path, but if you put me in a race against myself where one version of me has the R3, and the other has a 5nm CSL DD bundle, the R3 would win by a healthy margin
That's the thing, fanatec doesn't exist. There's no way to contact fanatec quickly if u have problems, and do you really want to buy from a company who just went for insolvency???
@@GrilledPixeIs I can't believe people still choose fanatec at this chaotic times for them
@@tkdmp5698 exactly fanatec could be a memory in 6 months, who knows🤷♂️
On a budget, what would you recommend instead of the Moza Performance Kit to improve the pedals?
@@spoodmanire I don't know of any mods from first hand experience, I just recommend tweaking the brake curve in Pit House to suit your style - as I did!
It's possible to use the Logitech spring on the brakes by using a combination of the threaded tube Logitech uses then u can put it on the brake pedal like the brake mod does, definitely makes it satisfactory for a couple of months until u get loadcell
What sims did you test? I’m curious about Forza.
iRacing 95%, Assetto Corsa and ACC 5% - I haven't touched Forza I'm afraid!
How much of a step up would this be from my thrustmaster TX with the all metal pro pedals and shifter?
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You aren't reviewing, you are selling the product.
You aren't criticizing, you are being an ass.
I'm not sure what the problem is with this review. He points out many times that this wheel is a short term prospect due to its lack of power, and that the pedals aren't great.