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@@TheZayGS who cares it’s for Xbox and pc nothing for ps5 should start shopping for a deferent brand if FANATEC have no respect to ps5 gamers piss on them
Beware of this hobby! One day you buy yourself a G29 on sale for $200 "just to try it out". After 2 days you return it and get yourself a DD2 bundle with 2 extra wheels, Prime cockpit, custom Sparco seat, 3 screens, 6 tactile transducers and a wind simulator...
Ahah i’m in this situation now, started getting abit more serious entering leauges an stuff and quickly realised these gear drivens are horrible. Iv fot the t248 and it’s just no where near enoufh for what i need, only had it a month now im going to go all out i think on a DD setup.
Just bought the bundle last Friday, should be delivered and up and running by Wednesday. Been looking to get a wheel for years and years and this got me over the line
@@WestyST exactly the same here hahaha been on the tmx pro for years and been amazing, became really competitive and doing some big championships with it ahahh now finally upgrading
@@sam78882 the PS5 compatible wheel base is the round csl dd, compared to the more roundish regular csl dd, the ps5 compatible one is not on sale at the moment and only cost more because the Sony licensing chip is apart of the wheel base. A sale will probably not be too far away but it will not be as cheap as this deal
i like that you're covering budget options as well, considering not everyone is able to splash 1k+ just to simrace, i can't overstate this enough, i find the simracing community to be very elitistic at times, some of us just want to spend as little as possible to give us a decent base experience, your channel gives just what im looking for, thanks a lot!
I feel you! I asked a question on r/simracing and the responses I got were ridiculous. I ended up buying my first wheel since 2005 - Last year, I got a Logitech Driving Force GT (it's old - from 2007) for $80 off of Facebook Marketplace and a sim racing stand by Vevor for $70 and I'm having a ton of fun. Is it a wheel anywhere as good as this one? - no of course not - can I run laps in Assetto Corsa at Watkins Glen in an MX-5 for an hour while my daughters nap and tune out the world & start practicing the craft- yes! Super happy with my purchase and I can't wait to buy one of these in another year or two when I can afford to splurge. This channel does awesome reviews that are practical for people that have to pay their mortgages/rent and feed a family/themselves.
I bought the basic logitech wheel, peals and shifter for 60 bucks around 6 months ago on ebay and i'm so glad i did. I already had a pc so it's the cheapest fun i've had with my clothes on. I'd highly recommend to anyone getting a basic set up just to get started, unless you're loaded of course but even there's a law of diminishing returns on investing loads of money in performance trems Most sim racing channels are geared towards more experienced racers and come across a bit elitist to me also. i think a lot of them get commission on selling us the newest innovations.
@@braveheart4603 i got given a g923 and am so happy ive discovered sim racing because of it, next step is to get some preowned t-lcm pedals and then later i will get a dd base and wheel.. if you can get a logitech wheel 2nd hand for a very good price its well worth it as an introduction to sim racing.. ive tuned all the rumbling out or down low so i feel every thing through the wheel... also try race room as its free and has very good ffb pn the logi wheels
Most informative and fairly reviewed channel on RUclips. Love both the racing and product review videos. Def worth the sub. Just got the R5 bundle last month and your review helped make the decision. Cheers mate
Being able to upgrade to 8nms is a big plus for Fanatec in my opinion. 5nms is fine but i get quite a lot of clipping with my CSL Elite when I'm playing ACC with steering that dissent feel particularly heavy. That said, I'm happy with my setup at the moment and will probably wait until it dies before i upgrade.
My club sport qr1 has no play or flex and no clicking noises!Recently purchased a second one and it’s perfect as well! All my Fanatec gear is just perfect! Apparently I’m the only one without issues haha
Love the concept that you don't need to re-purchase the electronics to have different wheel shape. If they had some kind of quick release for the actual wheel instead of 6 screws, that would be equally fast to having full wheels for e.g. Fanatec.
@@JTheraos Do they have quick release adapter that allows you to easily replace the wheel shape (only the part that you hold, not the buttons or switches)? See the segment starting around 14:30 for details.
@@JTheraos Yes, but remember that we are talking about budget solutions here. For that segment, it would make a lot of sense to allow cheaper but usable solutions.
Anyone worried about Fanatec Flex don't worry its only if you twist the wheel in a unatural way it doesn't affect steering or even notice it while driving .
To add to this you shouldn't have any flex unless you're purposefully trying to break your setup the only thing to worry about is applying too much pressure when removing or putting a steering wheel on the wheelbase as it can snap the connector
@@boostedmedia Thanks, I was considering buying one right away, but I'd love to see how it compares to Fanatic's wheel. It's cheaper and the wheel is probably mounted better so it won't wobble, but maybe the bigger wheel is worth the extra price. Or maybe having less mass will mean better force feedback! Also, I'd love to be able to hot-swap the wheel if I go for something other than the C5.
Now that is an absolute steal!!! Good on them for the price drop, everyone needs to be able to experience DD and this price will help with that immensly. even if its only 5NM to start with, knowing you have the 8NM upgrade option is a bonus too. I just feel these will be out of stock for a while.
My biggest hang up on the Moza system is the fact it's not console compatible. I've got a dated laptop that only really runs Automobilista (1) and FIA GT Racing Game to a point where I can play online and be competitive. But I have an Xbox Series S. I don't have the budget to get myself a new PC, a sim rig (I made the mistake a year ago and bought the NLR GT-Lite, it's good, but not for >5Nm DD bases) AND a DD wheelbase. But I do have enough money to buy this bundle with the McLaren GT3 wheel and basically have all my driving/racing needs covered (my main interests are GT, F1 and prototype racing). If the P1 were console compatible at $50-100 USD more than this, that would be a grand slam home run.
Wtf do we need quick releases on sim racing gear? It’s not like you need to switch drivers in a car within seconds. They should just build the bases with a robust, absolute tight, less error prone mounting system.
We got a new Škoda Fabia in our driving school and the steering wheel has the same texture as my P1, so the P1 wheel actually feels like a cheaper real car steering wheel
my g29 was super noisy, but then I got the right configs, with the lut generator, making it seem like it's not even a g29 anymore (: I think everyone using the g29/g920 should use 10 minutes of their time to go and change the settings of the ffb cause it's a day and night difference after all
So do u feel the road and dirt more with the fanatec? Does it vibrate more n more feeling for sure then the g923? And does this fanatec available to use with ps4 only? Thank you I want to get one tomorrow or this week
With the Fanatec quick releases all having too much play, I’m curious if you could add a couple layers of tape around the input shaft to snug it’s fit? I’m still using the G29 and ready to upgrade.
I got the R9 and CSV2 from Microcenter at a really good deal it was like 200$ off of the website price so the shop-around for MOZA stuff is very accurate.
Even they start selling the ones with ffb for this price you can say that. Until then, they’re just giving the bottom of the barrel basic stuff for an almost reasonable cost & ridiculously overcharging for the good stuff. If it at least has a clutch they would have hit the mark at this price point, but they won’t even do that.
@@ImThe5thKingbecause I’d get one. I have one on my set up. Most set ups don’t come with a shifter, you almost always have to get them separately. it’s just nice to have the option. I personally like to use the real world configuration to the car.
@@zorbakaput8537 knowing the reason may lead to a better decision making and a deeper understanding of the state of affairs. For example, as a buyer (speaking of myself) I won't benefit from the current discount if the reason is that this DD is about to be replaced by a newer model that will pull the development efforts, attention and meant to have a longer support life span.
@@eclark99655 nm is a good amount of power especially for someone new to sim racing. Not to mention there’s more benefits with direct drive and you can still buy the boost kit.
@@bubbsboy Hi! How did they pack it? Can you write it after it coming? I want to reship it from Germany to Georgia but idk dimensions of boxes and weight of them. Or maybe it is all in one box?
With Playstation compatibility being a deciding factor for me, here's hoping that the DD GranTurismo bundle sees a drop as well. Not exactly holding my breath :)
Well I’ve been waiting for a drop for my ps5 but it looks too far but the wheel and pedals are compatible with ps5 it’s just to choose a motor that works with them .
@@KurthardtJr I seen that you can get a brooks ras1ution 2 for all 4 of the Moza wheel bases and it will work on PS and Xbox. Unfortunately the CSL DD was not compatible. So Drive Hub will support CSL DD on PS5? I seen one video where you had to also purchase a Hori controller. Trying to play GT7 on PlayStation.
@@justincarver114Yeah, it should work on PS5 with a hori or nacon mini officially licensed wired ps4 controller. I'm using my thrustmaster tx with the nacon and GT7 on PS5
..so was thinking about this, Sony must be charging Fanatec a huge licensing fee per wheel - apparently about 200 USD +/-, if this PC price is anything to go by. I doubt we will see a significant drop for the DD Pro sadly.
Yeah a PlayStation version would be wonderful. The Xbox I have is a 360 and it's collecting dust and my laptop can't really handle racing sims so I'd love to see one compatible with PS4/5
You could get the CSL DD bundle, then add a 90$ drivehub for Xbox and PS4 compatibility. For PS5 you also need a PS4 Hori Mini Pad for like 25$. It's the cheapest way to get compatibility with everything. I'm using my CSL DD bundle with a drivehub on GT7 PS5 right now.
@@Darklord_tK Sony is a peace of garbage they want you to buy there items only they do not want to build something compatible with there product wished I bought an Xbox if I sell it now I will lose a lot the memory cost me for 4TB $450.00 and all the games so I am stuck here unless I get to a point that I would say the hell with Sony and get an Xbox . I had the older model and sold it and when the new one came out and looked like shit real cheap material real junk I’ve waited one whole year to get the ps5
Been sitting on the sidelines for the last few years, contemplating options. I'm coming from a Logitech MOMO wheel from like circa 2004 (very rarely used these days though). This deal pushed me over the edge a few days ago, and should arrive today. Can't wait to dive in...
The base model priced at 400 makes every non DD logitech option a non consideration now. The g923 brand new sells for 400 itself and it's only a gear driven motor. Sure the g920 goes for 300, but why not just save up 25% more and get something far better? With the intro DD bundles getting more competitive in pricing, I wonder what brand will be the first to sacrifice quality to try and undercut the rest and completely ruin their customer reputation.
Hello manufacturers normally drop the price and flood the market when they are about to announce a new product. Probably something like a beefed up csl dd with the new quick release.
After what feels like a million years my wife gave me the go ahead to upgrade from the G27 a few days ago. I bundled the larger power supply and brake kit to the Fanatic bundle, then this video came out. Really cements the decision, thank you :)
Hi! How did they pack it? Can you write it after it coming? I want to reship it from Germany to Georgia but idk dimensions of boxes and weight of them. Or maybe it is all in one box?
@@Percentifyy apologies! Yes they came in I believe three different different shipments with different tracking numbers. The biggest box was about 1x2 feet, smallest was like 6x6 in
The only thing I like about fanatec is more bundle options. I didn’t like the pedals with the R5 bundle so I went R9 instead and it would’ve been nice to see more options or savings if you add more to make the complete 3 piece kit. That being said, in the last few years I’ve been considering a direct drive wheel, I’ve found the fanatec website super confusing (adding a bundle to cart was never easy)
first of all: how's your 4090? :) got my Moza bundle for about 6 months. so, what I'm writing is based on this time frame and the ~6k laps in iRacing oval (ARCA, Gen4, Next-Gen and Xfinity Nascar). I truly like it. playing with 80% FFB and I still can handle the Gen4 ARCA car also without issue. I can feel when the back tries to "live its own life" and how tires are wearing. the only negative to Moza is that I can mount with 2 bolts only to the Next-Level F-GT as the 4 holes are not fully correctly placed :S the thing what you've missed to mention is the mobile app for Moza.
I've been waiting years to get a DD and this bundle was the tipping point. Can't wait to try it! UPDATE: It came in and it’s easily the best bang for buck upgrade I’ve ever done for a wheel. Even at 5Nm it’s way stronger than the G29. I’m having a blast.
@@g1sbi same brother, have fun! i just ordered the p1 bundle today for 460€ incl. the table clamp, shipping and tax here in europe, how is it for you, did you try it yet?
@@Vezinho10 i waited for the p1 wheel to become available as i wanted a round wheel so i can also do rally and it also saved me 80€ because i didnt have to go with mclaren gt3 wheel :P , buuuut i ordered it on sunday and monday they shipped it, UPS site says i should be getting it tomorrow (10th Aug), so let's see if that's true, it's safe to say that im very excited and can barely wait to try it
Awesome news for the hobby. I looked at the R5 bundle and the CSL gear but sadly I couldn't find the Fanatec stuff in stock. Ended up with an R9/CS V2 from a local Canadian dealer. Will, you directly informed my decisions and I'm so thankful for that. Boosted 4 Life!!!
@@oreca07 So far I'm very pleased with it. I play mostly ACC, AC, iRacing and FH5. The software is pretty good/easy to use too. Getting it to work with FH5 requires a few extra steps in the setup but the other games were plug and play.
With Fanatec, you buy the 8nm adaptor, the Load Cell pedal and you can actually upgrading your kit later. With Moza in this case you need to swap the base. For this price point and options I'd go Fanatec even if the quick release and the shaft are embarassing.
im hoping when they get qr2 out it addresses all the issues and doesnt cost more than 150€, i dont think anyone would like to spend that much per wheel just to avoid common issues :/
Pulled the trigger right as the deal went live. Finally made the switch from a Thrustmaster TSPC. Gotta admit, the difference is greater than i expected. Very happy with my purchase.
Moza is too small, because of that it overheats and loose force feedback partially. Fanatec is bigger only to dissipate heat better through it's radiator like built. Plus now in 2024 it has new quick release system installed on wheel bases and wheels, which is super stiff and holds really well without any movement like old quick release in this video. It also has 8nm possible upgrade. So fanatec bundle for $399 with new qr2 and 8nm upgrade possible is superior to moza and cheaper.
Can anyone tell me if Fanatec is really as bad as some reviews make them out to be? Honestly, some of the things I've read about their quality control and customer service are pushing me towards Moza though I really prefer the looks and upgradeability of the CSL DD
Im planning on upgrading from a g920 to either fanatec or moza very soon, and am leaning towards the moza ks with an r9 atm, but these bundles arent making it easy to decide lol
This has thrown a wrench in my plans. I hadn't intended to get a bundle, but the 5nm base by itself is $350, and for $50 more i could get the pedals and the wheel as well. Now here's the rub: other than the base, i won't use the rest of the bundle. I'm on Xbox, and plan to get the v3 pedals. So that means the pedals and wheel are going to be useless. I'm going to keep watching their pricing and availability for now, but i think it's interesting they've started aggressive price dropping, considering earlier this year they were in dire need of supply. Tough cycle. Dry availability leads to customers going somewhere else, the demand necessitates you build up your supply, but then sales fall off because customers bought the competition when your supply was low. I hope this doesn't lead to another dry spell later down the road.
The price, along with being able to upgrade to a 8nm experience by simply buying the bigger power brick, makes choosing the Fanatec a no brainer to me.
@@FemtoTheFolf agreed, should be like $75 or $90. Maybe $100 tops. Wheel is fantastic though.I couldn't be happier with the way it performs. Especially once I fully adapted from my 6 years of G29 gear use to DD sweetness. I had ot learn how to stop trying to stay on the top of the car so much. And rather react to it like I would in real life. Now, man, it feels amazing. Totally transformed AMS 2.
@@BurtSampson am currently on a g29. So bad lol. Drifting is impossible with it so I've just stopped with that, playing mainly f1 23 with it. But yea I'm gonna save for a DD from fanatec, the 8nm one. I did a custom setup thing in their setup builder, 1.6k AUD (1k USD). Pretty hefty but oh well. Will be well worth it that's for sure.
The thing about the flexing of the shaft of the wheel. My racing instructor (real live racing with my car) He said “that is a wheel, not a thing to brace yourself with while driving. Don’t be pushing or pulling on it!” Just a little Pro tip. Cheers.
There's definitely an element of charging a premium to people who want the new product within the first couple of years but early buyers are also covering the product's R&D costs. It always pays to wait.
Manufacturer 's set prices based on projected sales so that any returns will cover all design costs, production, and profits within the first couple of years. After the design costs and manufacturing setup is covered, they only need to cover manufacturing costs and profits, so pricing can often be adjusted to be more competitive in the marketplace.
It seems to me that its a no brainer for fanatec here or am I missing something ? The bundle in 8NM (pedals + wheel + base) is cheaper than the R9 base alone. If you add pedals+wheel moza is almost 2 times more expensive... And also the option to add the load cell kit with fanatec. Please correct me if Im wrong
That McLaren wheel is really a good value. I own both the Moza formula mod you showed, as well as the 300mm mod. That required purchasing two full ES wheels to use as donors. Both are extremely nice but when you consider the cost of even one full donor wheel price at $129 plus mod ($79 for 300mm) it is more than that McLaren wheel. Moza needs to start offering the button boxes as an option.
Good thing for the customers and the effect on the market. I had good experience with Fanatec products, but had issues lately, also with a brand new CSL DD 8nm. The customer support experience was not good at all, mainly because they seem to 'lose' emails and therefor not reply to everything I sent. I'm moving out of the Fanatec ecosystem (although I still think they make amazing products). The aggressive pricing might also be an indication that there will be a upcoming 'midrange' Fanatec DD unit, might be a Clubsport DD priced arount €800 and have something like 12-14nm? I'm just guessing (and hoping...).
What issues were you getting with the unit? I get vibrations through the base into the wheel even when no game is loaded on mine it’s really annoying, I’ve installed a firmware version I found on a forum but still feel it all the time
Great video .. When you tested the Fanatec were you testing the 5Nm unit or the 8 ? and in your opinion would you say that the 5Nm is quite sufficient for someone stepping up from a non FFB wheel setup that I have been running for 20 years ? Thanks
I am absolutely devastated with my CSL DD McLaren bundle. I have only had it less than a week and I am experiencing multiple disconnections while racing. I have re-seated the shaft and tightened down the clamp and to no avail it still keeps DC-ing I am absolutely gutted I have waited for nearly 2 years to be able to get a DD wheel and I get one that's not working correctly. I can not tell you in words how devastated I am. Sim racing is my life and is the one thing that keeps me on the straight and narrow and away from using drugs I got clean a few years ago and found that sim racing is helping me keep clean. And to not have sim racing is something I can't handle.
So, I just joined this party. I ordered the Fanatec DD bundle at the recommendation of a friend, and I received it a couple of days ago. Maybe I received a unicorn, but I don't seem to have any sort of flex issues with the mount between the wheel and base; however, it is mounted to my desk via the desk mount, so what flex might be there could be cancelled out by my squishier, more flexible mounting spot. I highly recommend, and I already tried selling another one of our friends on it. I'm glad I found your channel (albeit after the fact), and appreciate all the information you deliver about sim racing and the gear required.
I bought the CSL DD last year. Had it for about 1,5 - 2 months and then I switched to a Simucube 2 Pro 😂 Not because the CSL DD was bad. Simply because I fell head over heels in love with sim racing and now spend hours every day driving. So I wanted that extra power and speed of the Simucube ❤️
@@SeyePhithere is absolutely no comparison. Night and days between them. I mean the fanatec 25nm cant hold up with simucube…and it costs the same. Fanatec is just shit compared to the competition.
just goes to show that the pricing on these products is purely down to how much they believe they can extract, rather than the materials, labour and logistics. capitalism baby
That’s how everything is tho…. If you tear down a ps5 that parts alone wouldn’t even be worth the 500$ price point, it probably costs them less than 80$ to make them if anything lol.
@@17peteclarke these days your paying more for the brand name than the product it’s crazy, You can slap a logo on a 1$ shirt and it’ll automatically be worth 25-50$ depending on how big the brand is 🙃.
I have recently just ordered this setup from Fanatec. I have never owned a Race sim and I've been thinking about it for well over a years. It really was a no brainer at that price to jump into it. Can't wait!
I love racing RC cars, but winter is brutal. No racing to be had in my area because we don't have any indoor tracks yet. Plus we only race about 2 times a month. So I have been tossing the idea of getting into sim racing around for a while. I think my mind just got made up. That's such a killer deal and with the upgrade potential it seems like a no brainer for someone in my situation.
@@thrasherdave1428 Pedals were an obvious choice for me. DD wheel was in that phase of all these new brands and I couldn’t make my mind up. Ended up going with Moza r9.
The boost kit is the biggest Con job in simracing, Use reverse thinking here guy's, so Fanatec sell a wheel and limit the package to 5Nm but then have an option to upgrade to 8Nm by purchasing a kit at €150 !!!!!!!! What an underhanded thing to do when the DD Base is capable of 8Nm from the outset and that kit which is just a power brick costs about €30 off the shelf, I for one are glad Fanatec are in trouble as they are one of the worst company's in simracing, Just my opinion but I hope you can see a valid point.
oh well you know when you first got started I watched your channel all the time because I thought it was fun and interesting now it seems like it's disclaimer after disclaimer and then basically the entire videos about selling the next fantastic thing and some racing the problem is is pretty much every unit you've showed me is for PC the occasional usable direct drive thrown in not Sony authorized just Sony compatible I have been on a DD and my old CSL elite at the same time in the same room on two different systems in the CSL elite from years ago smokes the DD when it comes to Fidelity less shakiness less jitter smoother changing settings actually makes a difference that's a big part by the way. I guess maybe people are forgetting how many grant players are out there in the world as it sits right now it's close to 50 million now if you can show me any PC segment that contains 50 million players then I'll say it's important and I know you have to cover all the segments but let me say that term again 50 million so let's try focusing on why PlayStation is having problems with Fanatec, or why you can't buy their products at Amazon or why they had the worlds worst customer service this is called news and information if you're just gonna review products as products and not tell us anything about what's going on in the Sim world there's 100 channels doing the same thing as soon as I heard you say they sent this to me but we're gonna do a non-biased opinion I was done seen this disease infect other channels until pretty soon it was all about products so unfortunately after 3 years I'm going to have to Unsub from your channel. that is unless you can convince me we're going to start talking about what matters to Sim racers and it's not equipment that's all personal taste let's talk about what's going on in the world. i'll ask you personally and you can answer if you want do you know why there is no fanatec Sony authorized products? And do you know why they're no longer available at amazon the largest retailer on the planet? if you can give me a real answer on either of those subjects I may consider staying on your channel not that it really matters I'm just one person but I have been Sim racing since Sim racing wasn't a thing
Honestly feels like a kick in the shorts. I paid around 550$ for the dd base with the 8nm upgrade. Because their wheels were so expensive I had to retrofit a trans am wheel I had laying around with 3d printed brackets and I had to make some pedals out of trash. Now I see i could have gotten a whole setup for allot less.... FML
unbelievable the quality 400 dollars gets you in sim racing gear whereas flight sim would cost 4 times as much for cheap 3d printed parts slapped together.
Great video as usual. Your production quality is top notch. One question from me. Have you looked at the TM T818 seems that there are mixed reviews. Would like to see your opinion at some point in the future.
Seriously how can they justify this amazing price on PC for that bundle yet &#$@ over PS4/5 users where the bundle is the same except for the actual wheel itself yet they charge you double ... 1200+ yeah that's bullshit fanatic
I do want to say doe if you want a clutch and shifter knob Moza is by the cheaper way to go as they allow you to add it to their bundle for alot cheaper
I want clutch and stick and including currently black Friday deals this sums up to 600€ @ fanatec (CSL DD Ready2Race Bundle for PC (5 Nm) + CSL Pedal Clutch kit + ClubSport Shifter + USB Adapter), again on black Friday deal. This compared to 220€ logitech 29 including stick and clutch. So for me atm as a beginner in sim racing logitech is the way to go. The prices might be low, but for real 600€ is a lot of money... I might hate it though and give u an update :)
What is the true cost of dealing with Fanatec though? Worst customer support in the industry, slipping shipping dates ( but they’ll take your money quickly), no way to contact them ( try sending an request using their web form - you only get a canned response, try calling their EU number - it says they have suspended the voice service, call US customer support - voicemail is full). F these guys.
I have a dd1 podium F1 and after 6-7 months the F1 wheel basically cracked in two, lost connection to the wheel and ff disappeared. Have sent it to Fanatec and bought a DD Pro GT as a backup. After a few weeks now the wheel works for 1-2 laps before it loses connection, all buttons stops working and all the ff disappears. So I’m not super impressed of Fanatecs quality. Feels really nice the 2 laps it works though
In which platforms does this work ? And does it also function on PS5 with GT7 since I bought a PSVR2 I want to have the full experience with a nice DD drive that doesn’t break the bank
Fanatec is the better option. The R5 is about $800 usd with shifter and clutch and the clunky brake upgrade. With Fanatec you get a load cell brake, and shifter for a few dollars more.
Now one would think that a table clamp would be part of the wheel base, I wouldn't be very happy buying all this very expensive stuff and opening it up and setting it up to find there is no clamp for my desk, Sorry no racing for you today buddy boy "WTF" That's just a scam really to force more money from us and extra posting costs on you, I assume not all would know about this deliberate withholding of the clamp, I mean Logitech include one, its built in and hardware provided to bolt it solid to your desk as a FREE option
That plastic fanatec shaft and plastic quick release(QR Lite) is a deal breaker. Hopefully Moza r5 bundle price comes down to match fanatec's price cut
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Could not get it for PS5 it’s only PC or XBOX
Hearing Moza in an Aussie accent just makes me think mozzies lol
Is $399 a temporary sale price?
Not sure tbh.
@@TheZayGS who cares it’s for Xbox and pc nothing for ps5 should start shopping for a deferent brand if FANATEC have no respect to ps5 gamers piss on them
Beware of this hobby! One day you buy yourself a G29 on sale for $200 "just to try it out". After 2 days you return it and get yourself a DD2 bundle with 2 extra wheels, Prime cockpit, custom Sparco seat, 3 screens, 6 tactile transducers and a wind simulator...
This happened to me after a day😂
Wind simulator is wild
Ahah i’m in this situation now, started getting abit more serious entering leauges an stuff and quickly realised these gear drivens are horrible. Iv fot the t248 and it’s just no where near enoufh for what i need, only had it a month now im going to go all out i think on a DD setup.
Best believe Ima sell my car for a car that is station irl but goes twice as fast in game 💯🙏
No comment. 😂
Just bought the bundle last Friday, should be delivered and up and running by Wednesday. Been looking to get a wheel for years and years and this got me over the line
Same here!! Bought it about a week ago, should come in tomorrow! Finally upgrading from a TMX Pro :)
Hell yeah, dont let the steep-ish learning curve scare you away :p keep at it and youll be sending it
@@WestyST exactly the same here hahaha been on the tmx pro for years and been amazing, became really competitive and doing some big championships with it ahahh now finally upgrading
Do you know what is compatible with ps5 all the crap I see is PC and XBOX REAL Cheapy garbage of fanatic
@@sam78882 the PS5 compatible wheel base is the round csl dd, compared to the more roundish regular csl dd, the ps5 compatible one is not on sale at the moment and only cost more because the Sony licensing chip is apart of the wheel base. A sale will probably not be too far away but it will not be as cheap as this deal
i like that you're covering budget options as well, considering not everyone is able to splash 1k+ just to simrace, i can't overstate this enough, i find the simracing community to be very elitistic at times, some of us just want to spend as little as possible to give us a decent base experience, your channel gives just what im looking for, thanks a lot!
I feel you! I asked a question on r/simracing and the responses I got were ridiculous. I ended up buying my first wheel since 2005 -
Last year, I got a Logitech Driving Force GT (it's old - from 2007) for $80 off of Facebook Marketplace and a sim racing stand by Vevor for $70 and I'm having a ton of fun. Is it a wheel anywhere as good as this one? - no of course not - can I run laps in Assetto Corsa at Watkins Glen in an MX-5 for an hour while my daughters nap and tune out the world & start practicing the craft- yes! Super happy with my purchase and I can't wait to buy one of these in another year or two when I can afford to splurge. This channel does awesome reviews that are practical for people that have to pay their mortgages/rent and feed a family/themselves.
I bought the basic logitech wheel, peals and shifter for 60 bucks around 6 months ago on ebay and i'm so glad i did. I already had a pc so it's the cheapest fun i've had with my clothes on.
I'd highly recommend to anyone getting a basic set up just to get started, unless you're loaded of course but even there's a law of diminishing returns on investing loads of money in performance trems
Most sim racing channels are geared towards more experienced racers and come across a bit elitist to me also. i think a lot of them get commission on selling us the newest innovations.
@@braveheart4603 i got given a g923 and am so happy ive discovered sim racing because of it, next step is to get some preowned t-lcm pedals and then later i will get a dd base and wheel.. if you can get a logitech wheel 2nd hand for a very good price its well worth it as an introduction to sim racing.. ive tuned all the rumbling out or down low so i feel every thing through the wheel... also try race room as its free and has very good ffb pn the logi wheels
Most informative and fairly reviewed channel on RUclips. Love both the racing and product review videos. Def worth the sub. Just got the R5 bundle last month and your review helped make the decision. Cheers mate
Being able to upgrade to 8nms is a big plus for Fanatec in my opinion. 5nms is fine but i get quite a lot of clipping with my CSL Elite when I'm playing ACC with steering that dissent feel particularly heavy. That said, I'm happy with my setup at the moment and will probably wait until it dies before i upgrade.
My club sport qr1 has no play or flex and no clicking noises!Recently purchased a second one and it’s perfect as well! All my Fanatec gear is just perfect! Apparently I’m the only one without issues haha
I order a fanatec bundle last week and so excited for it!
Love the concept that you don't need to re-purchase the electronics to have different wheel shape. If they had some kind of quick release for the actual wheel instead of 6 screws, that would be equally fast to having full wheels for e.g. Fanatec.
You can buy a quick release adapter.
@@JTheraos Do they have quick release adapter that allows you to easily replace the wheel shape (only the part that you hold, not the buttons or switches)? See the segment starting around 14:30 for details.
@@MikkoRantalainen there's no reason not to just get a different wheel. Trying to have 1 wheel that can do everything, isn't possible.
@@JTheraos Yes, but remember that we are talking about budget solutions here. For that segment, it would make a lot of sense to allow cheaper but usable solutions.
Anyone worried about Fanatec Flex don't worry its only if you twist the wheel in a unatural way it doesn't affect steering or even notice it while driving .
To add to this you shouldn't have any flex unless you're purposefully trying to break your setup the only thing to worry about is applying too much pressure when removing or putting a steering wheel on the wheelbase as it can snap the connector
@@Darklord_tK Thats it , it doesn't flex while steering ( i only know it flex because i twisted like people do on youtube once )
Did you see what Dave Cam put out a few hours ago? Cammus C5 complete set for $329. Things are hotting up at entry level for sure.
Yep. We have one on it’s way to check out.
@@boostedmedia Thanks, I was considering buying one right away, but I'd love to see how it compares to Fanatic's wheel. It's cheaper and the wheel is probably mounted better so it won't wobble, but maybe the bigger wheel is worth the extra price. Or maybe having less mass will mean better force feedback! Also, I'd love to be able to hot-swap the wheel if I go for something other than the C5.
Now that is an absolute steal!!! Good on them for the price drop, everyone needs to be able to experience DD and this price will help with that immensly. even if its only 5NM to start with, knowing you have the 8NM upgrade option is a bonus too. I just feel these will be out of stock for a while.
A ton extra cash for shipping, should be included, I mean you always have to pay it!
My biggest hang up on the Moza system is the fact it's not console compatible. I've got a dated laptop that only really runs Automobilista (1) and FIA GT Racing Game to a point where I can play online and be competitive. But I have an Xbox Series S.
I don't have the budget to get myself a new PC, a sim rig (I made the mistake a year ago and bought the NLR GT-Lite, it's good, but not for >5Nm DD bases) AND a DD wheelbase.
But I do have enough money to buy this bundle with the McLaren GT3 wheel and basically have all my driving/racing needs covered (my main interests are GT, F1 and prototype racing).
If the P1 were console compatible at $50-100 USD more than this, that would be a grand slam home run.
Wtf do we need quick releases on sim racing gear?
It’s not like you need to switch drivers in a car within seconds.
They should just build the bases with a robust, absolute tight, less error prone mounting system.
Thanks for the video, im going to pick up the DD5 for me
Bought the 8nm bundle and absolutely love it. ❤
We got a new Škoda Fabia in our driving school and the steering wheel has the same texture as my P1, so the P1 wheel actually feels like a cheaper real car steering wheel
my g29 was super noisy, but then I got the right configs, with the lut generator, making it seem like it's not even a g29 anymore (: I think everyone using the g29/g920 should use 10 minutes of their time to go and change the settings of the ffb cause it's a day and night difference after all
So do u feel the road and dirt more with the fanatec? Does it vibrate more n more feeling for sure then the g923? And does this fanatec available to use with ps4 only? Thank you I want to get one tomorrow or this week
With the Fanatec quick releases all having too much play, I’m curious if you could add a couple layers of tape around the input shaft to snug it’s fit? I’m still using the G29 and ready to upgrade.
I got mine yesterday and the quick release was rock solid immediately, no wobble, no play.
Okay, i was thinking about an t300 ferrari bundle, 300euro. But for 100euro more i have the basic bundle!
I just ordered this set with the load cell brake and should be arriving Wednesday and I can't wait.
Did you say I can use my g923 pedals with the fanatec steering wheel because mine is mounted on a motion simulator and like the way they feel
Is there a Fanatec DD base & pedal set that will allow you to switch out a Fanatec X BOX X Series wheel and PS5 wheel?🤔
I have the new logitech wheel .. can I use the shifter ?
I got the R9 and CSV2 from Microcenter at a really good deal it was like 200$ off of the website price so the shop-around for MOZA stuff is very accurate.
Yep. Very important to shop around.
US$399?
goat dammit it's still US$730 in south east asia resellers, WTF?
good to see competition having its inevitable effect on prices.
Trouble is, the competition is from China, the land of, let's be real, thieves and slave-drivers.
Even they start selling the ones with ffb for this price you can say that. Until then, they’re just giving the bottom of the barrel basic stuff for an almost reasonable cost & ridiculously overcharging for the good stuff. If it at least has a clutch they would have hit the mark at this price point, but they won’t even do that.
@@danielchrysalis6554this is not bottom of the barrel basic stuff. where else can you find direct drive 5Nm for this price?
@@danielchrysalis6554 Why would you want a clutch if you're not getting an H pattern shifter, though?
@@ImThe5thKingbecause I’d get one. I have one on my set up. Most set ups don’t come with a shifter, you almost always have to get them separately. it’s just nice to have the option. I personally like to use the real world configuration to the car.
I wonder whether they dropped the price cause they felt the heat 🔥 from Moza Racing? 🤔
What does it matter the reason, maybe they just want to put some heat on the competitors either way the buyer benefits.
No doubt at all in my mind!
@@zorbakaput8537 knowing the reason may lead to a better decision making and a deeper understanding of the state of affairs. For example, as a buyer (speaking of myself) I won't benefit from the current discount if the reason is that this DD is about to be replaced by a newer model that will pull the development efforts, attention and meant to have a longer support life span.
Looking at the fact they didnt drop the price of Plsystation version I asume they did!
What about simagic?
Wow, amazing price! 350 euros for just the base or 400 euros for the entire bundle - think it's time to upgrade to direct drive 😁
mines coming tomorrow!
@@eclark9965 8nm is just +100 right now
@@eclark99655 nm is a good amount of power especially for someone new to sim racing. Not to mention there’s more benefits with direct drive and you can still buy the boost kit.
@@bubbsboy Hi! How did they pack it? Can you write it after it coming? I want to reship it from Germany to Georgia but idk dimensions of boxes and weight of them. Or maybe it is all in one box?
@@antongulyuk6216warum möchtest du es zurückschicken?? Hast irgendwelche Ptobleme mit dem gehabt??
With Playstation compatibility being a deciding factor for me, here's hoping that the DD GranTurismo bundle sees a drop as well. Not exactly holding my breath :)
Well I’ve been waiting for a drop for my ps5 but it looks too far but the wheel and pedals are compatible with ps5 it’s just to choose a motor that works with them .
Just get a drive hub
@@KurthardtJr I seen that you can get a brooks ras1ution 2 for all 4 of the Moza wheel bases and it will work on PS and Xbox. Unfortunately the CSL DD was not compatible. So Drive Hub will support CSL DD on PS5? I seen one video where you had to also purchase a Hori controller. Trying to play GT7 on PlayStation.
@@justincarver114Yeah, it should work on PS5 with a hori or nacon mini officially licensed wired ps4 controller. I'm using my thrustmaster tx with the nacon and GT7 on PS5
@@KurthardtJr is it a good operation? I have a Drivehub, does it work ok?
Wish they’d do this for the PS5 version. Hopefully one day. 🤞
..so was thinking about this, Sony must be charging Fanatec a huge licensing fee per wheel - apparently about 200 USD +/-, if this PC price is anything to go by. I doubt we will see a significant drop for the DD Pro sadly.
@@cjwest9094
Yeah I feel the same.
Yeah a PlayStation version would be wonderful. The Xbox I have is a 360 and it's collecting dust and my laptop can't really handle racing sims so I'd love to see one compatible with PS4/5
@@thrasherdave1428 and you would still have to buy $200 wheel to make csl dd xbox compatible.
You could get the CSL DD bundle, then add a 90$ drivehub for Xbox and PS4 compatibility. For PS5 you also need a PS4 Hori Mini Pad for like 25$. It's the cheapest way to get compatibility with everything. I'm using my CSL DD bundle with a drivehub on GT7 PS5 right now.
I wish Fanatec would offer this bundle for the PS5
If it works like the DD Pro it will have a PS5 mode
It dont have a ps5 mode i own one
@@GojuStu only the dd pro is compatible with ps5 the regular csl dd only works with xbox and pc, while the dd pro works with all 3 platforms
@@Darklord_tK Sony is a peace of garbage they want you to buy there items only they do not want to build something compatible with there product wished I bought an Xbox if I sell it now I will lose a lot the memory cost me for 4TB $450.00 and all the games so I am stuck here unless I get to a point that I would say the hell with Sony and get an Xbox . I had the older model and sold it and when the new one came out and looked like shit real cheap material real junk I’ve waited one whole year to get the ps5
@@Darklord_tK thanks for clearing that up 👍🏻👍🏻
Thrustmaster T300 price needs to come down because its wayyy to much.
Really disappointed there’s no PS support 😭
very cool but it does't work with PS...
for 5 years I was planing to buy wheel. Looks like about time. lol
Been sitting on the sidelines for the last few years, contemplating options. I'm coming from a Logitech MOMO wheel from like circa 2004 (very rarely used these days though). This deal pushed me over the edge a few days ago, and should arrive today. Can't wait to dive in...
Holy shit, I also had a Logitech momo many many years ago. The difference will be massive!
Im like you brother.. patience wins the race : )💯
I still have that Momo wheel and it’s original box from back then!
Bought it at my local electronics market and loved playing TOCA with it!
The wheel is literally a well built little tikes wheel😂
@@rolux4853 Wow, been ages since I heard that name. TOCA was incredible mate :)
The base model priced at 400 makes every non DD logitech option a non consideration now. The g923 brand new sells for 400 itself and it's only a gear driven motor. Sure the g920 goes for 300, but why not just save up 25% more and get something far better? With the intro DD bundles getting more competitive in pricing, I wonder what brand will be the first to sacrifice quality to try and undercut the rest and completely ruin their customer reputation.
Hello manufacturers normally drop the price and flood the market when they are about to announce a new product. Probably something like a beefed up csl dd with the new quick release.
Not beefed up, but with a proper wheel, like a formula wheel.
@@socrateresorts1963 I would like to see about 10 or 15nm that seems to be what the composition is putting out.
After what feels like a million years my wife gave me the go ahead to upgrade from the G27 a few days ago. I bundled the larger power supply and brake kit to the Fanatic bundle, then this video came out. Really cements the decision, thank you :)
Exactly the same situation, had my G27 for years, bought the same bundle as you + load cell kit. Has yours arrived yet?
Hi! How did they pack it? Can you write it after it coming? I want to reship it from Germany to Georgia but idk dimensions of boxes and weight of them. Or maybe it is all in one box?
@@antongulyuk6216I think mines coming in completely different shipments. Because I have different tracking numbers. But I will update when I get them
@@Pdt7484been 2 months and you still haven’t received it? Yikes you got scammed
@@Percentifyy apologies! Yes they came in I believe three different different shipments with different tracking numbers. The biggest box was about 1x2 feet, smallest was like 6x6 in
The only thing I like about fanatec is more bundle options. I didn’t like the pedals with the R5 bundle so I went R9 instead and it would’ve been nice to see more options or savings if you add more to make the complete 3 piece kit. That being said, in the last few years I’ve been considering a direct drive wheel, I’ve found the fanatec website super confusing (adding a bundle to cart was never easy)
I bought a fanatec csr in 2012 and it lasted 12 years so I bought the 5nm csl bundle and it is amazing mate. Great channel 👏 👍
first of all: how's your 4090? :)
got my Moza bundle for about 6 months. so, what I'm writing is based on this time frame and the ~6k laps in iRacing oval (ARCA, Gen4, Next-Gen and Xfinity Nascar).
I truly like it. playing with 80% FFB and I still can handle the Gen4 ARCA car also without issue. I can feel when the back tries to "live its own life" and how tires are wearing.
the only negative to Moza is that I can mount with 2 bolts only to the Next-Level F-GT as the 4 holes are not fully correctly placed :S
the thing what you've missed to mention is the mobile app for Moza.
New 4090 on its way under warranty.
That app is absolutely awesome for tweaking and quick feedback profile changes.
I've been waiting years to get a DD and this bundle was the tipping point. Can't wait to try it!
UPDATE: It came in and it’s easily the best bang for buck upgrade I’ve ever done for a wheel. Even at 5Nm it’s way stronger than the G29. I’m having a blast.
What console are you on
@@thebutcher1412 PC
@@g1sbi same brother, have fun! i just ordered the p1 bundle today for 460€ incl. the table clamp, shipping and tax here in europe, how is it for you, did you try it yet?
@@kingjasko yessssss Bros
ordered mine today… same bundle can’t wait to try it how long does it take to get shipped?
@@Vezinho10 i waited for the p1 wheel to become available as i wanted a round wheel so i can also do rally and it also saved me 80€ because i didnt have to go with mclaren gt3 wheel :P , buuuut i ordered it on sunday and monday they shipped it, UPS site says i should be getting it tomorrow (10th Aug), so let's see if that's true, it's safe to say that im very excited and can barely wait to try it
Awesome news for the hobby. I looked at the R5 bundle and the CSL gear but sadly I couldn't find the Fanatec stuff in stock. Ended up with an R9/CS V2 from a local Canadian dealer. Will, you directly informed my decisions and I'm so thankful for that. Boosted 4 Life!!!
What do you think about the R9? I also want to buy this base
@@oreca07 So far I'm very pleased with it. I play mostly ACC, AC, iRacing and FH5. The software is pretty good/easy to use too. Getting it to work with FH5 requires a few extra steps in the setup but the other games were plug and play.
Moza is better then Fanatec by a LONG shot Fanatec QR is trash check their forum LOTS of complaints. Good choice with the Moza R9 i have one to.
With Fanatec, you buy the 8nm adaptor, the Load Cell pedal and you can actually upgrading your kit later. With Moza in this case you need to swap the base. For this price point and options I'd go Fanatec even if the quick release and the shaft are embarassing.
im hoping when they get qr2 out it addresses all the issues and doesnt cost more than 150€, i dont think anyone would like to spend that much per wheel just to avoid common issues :/
Pulled the trigger right as the deal went live. Finally made the switch from a Thrustmaster TSPC. Gotta admit, the difference is greater than i expected. Very happy with my purchase.
Moza is too small, because of that it overheats and loose force feedback partially. Fanatec is bigger only to dissipate heat better through it's radiator like built. Plus now in 2024 it has new quick release system installed on wheel bases and wheels, which is super stiff and holds really well without any movement like old quick release in this video. It also has 8nm possible upgrade. So fanatec bundle for $399 with new qr2 and 8nm upgrade possible is superior to moza and cheaper.
Can anyone tell me if Fanatec is really as bad as some reviews make them out to be? Honestly, some of the things I've read about their quality control and customer service are pushing me towards Moza though I really prefer the looks and upgradeability of the CSL DD
Im planning on upgrading from a g920 to either fanatec or moza very soon, and am leaning towards the moza ks with an r9 atm, but these bundles arent making it easy to decide lol
I need pay more $300 for DD Pro in China😵
What I dont like is CLS DD is 400 Euro but playstation compatible version is 700 Euro... FU $ONY
I wanted one of these but they were always out of stock. Bought a G Pro instead, I have owned Logitech wheels prior with no issues. No regrets.
Moza needs to release a PS5 version bcs Fanatec isn’t budget friendly for PS5 but they release new Xbox options often
This has thrown a wrench in my plans. I hadn't intended to get a bundle, but the 5nm base by itself is $350, and for $50 more i could get the pedals and the wheel as well. Now here's the rub: other than the base, i won't use the rest of the bundle. I'm on Xbox, and plan to get the v3 pedals. So that means the pedals and wheel are going to be useless. I'm going to keep watching their pricing and availability for now, but i think it's interesting they've started aggressive price dropping, considering earlier this year they were in dire need of supply. Tough cycle. Dry availability leads to customers going somewhere else, the demand necessitates you build up your supply, but then sales fall off because customers bought the competition when your supply was low. I hope this doesn't lead to another dry spell later down the road.
The price, along with being able to upgrade to a 8nm experience by simply buying the bigger power brick, makes choosing the Fanatec a no brainer to me.
Kinda hate how the power brick, probably manufactured for like 50$ is like 200$. Kinda ridiculous, but if it's what it takes I don't mind it.
@@FemtoTheFolf agreed, should be like $75 or $90. Maybe $100 tops. Wheel is fantastic though.I couldn't be happier with the way it performs. Especially once I fully adapted from my 6 years of G29 gear use to DD sweetness. I had ot learn how to stop trying to stay on the top of the car so much. And rather react to it like I would in real life. Now, man, it feels amazing. Totally transformed AMS 2.
@@BurtSampson am currently on a g29. So bad lol.
Drifting is impossible with it so I've just stopped with that, playing mainly f1 23 with it.
But yea I'm gonna save for a DD from fanatec, the 8nm one. I did a custom setup thing in their setup builder, 1.6k AUD (1k USD).
Pretty hefty but oh well. Will be well worth it that's for sure.
@@FemtoTheFolf Dude If you spend that get the Simagic Alpha and p1000 pedals.
TRUST me .... or don't it's your money.
@@FemtoTheFolf You can buy third party ones around for substantially less money.
The thing about the flexing of the shaft of the wheel. My racing instructor (real live racing with my car) He said “that is a wheel, not a thing to brace yourself with while driving. Don’t be pushing or pulling on it!” Just a little Pro tip. Cheers.
shows you how much markup there was in the original price
There's definitely an element of charging a premium to people who want the new product within the first couple of years but early buyers are also covering the product's R&D costs. It always pays to wait.
Manufacturer 's set prices based on projected sales so that any returns will cover all design costs, production, and profits within the first couple of years. After the design costs and manufacturing setup is covered, they only need to cover manufacturing costs and profits, so pricing can often be adjusted to be more competitive in the marketplace.
It seems to me that its a no brainer for fanatec here or am I missing something ?
The bundle in 8NM (pedals + wheel + base) is cheaper than the R9 base alone.
If you add pedals+wheel moza is almost 2 times more expensive...
And also the option to add the load cell kit with fanatec.
Please correct me if Im wrong
I'm still rocking my CSL DD. Fantastic investment for me. I don't see a point in upgrading anytime soon.
That McLaren wheel is really a good value.
I own both the Moza formula mod you showed, as well as the 300mm mod.
That required purchasing two full ES wheels to use as donors.
Both are extremely nice but when you consider the cost of even one full donor wheel price at $129 plus mod ($79 for 300mm) it is more than that McLaren wheel.
Moza needs to start offering the button boxes as an option.
The McLaren wheel seemed worthless to me as they were sold out of adapters that are included free. I just went with the f1 wheel for about 400$.
Good thing for the customers and the effect on the market. I had good experience with Fanatec products, but had issues lately, also with a brand new CSL DD 8nm. The customer support experience was not good at all, mainly because they seem to 'lose' emails and therefor not reply to everything I sent. I'm moving out of the Fanatec ecosystem (although I still think they make amazing products).
The aggressive pricing might also be an indication that there will be a upcoming 'midrange' Fanatec DD unit, might be a Clubsport DD priced arount €800 and have something like 12-14nm? I'm just guessing (and hoping...).
What issues were you getting with the unit? I get vibrations through the base into the wheel even when no game is loaded on mine it’s really annoying, I’ve installed a firmware version I found on a forum but still feel it all the time
Burning smell, loss of FFB.
No PS5 version in UK... 😒
Great video .. When you tested the Fanatec were you testing the 5Nm unit or the 8 ? and in your opinion would you say that the 5Nm is quite sufficient for someone stepping up from a non FFB wheel setup that I have been running for 20 years ? Thanks
I am absolutely devastated with my CSL DD McLaren bundle. I have only had it less than a week and I am experiencing multiple disconnections while racing. I have re-seated the shaft and tightened down the clamp and to no avail it still keeps DC-ing I am absolutely gutted I have waited for nearly 2 years to be able to get a DD wheel and I get one that's not working correctly. I can not tell you in words how devastated I am. Sim racing is my life and is the one thing that keeps me on the straight and narrow and away from using drugs I got clean a few years ago and found that sim racing is helping me keep clean. And to not have sim racing is something I can't handle.
So, I just joined this party. I ordered the Fanatec DD bundle at the recommendation of a friend, and I received it a couple of days ago. Maybe I received a unicorn, but I don't seem to have any sort of flex issues with the mount between the wheel and base; however, it is mounted to my desk via the desk mount, so what flex might be there could be cancelled out by my squishier, more flexible mounting spot. I highly recommend, and I already tried selling another one of our friends on it. I'm glad I found your channel (albeit after the fact), and appreciate all the information you deliver about sim racing and the gear required.
Hell yea having two sim rig and with this deal is a must have
I bought the CSL DD last year. Had it for about 1,5 - 2 months and then I switched to a Simucube 2 Pro 😂 Not because the CSL DD was bad. Simply because I fell head over heels in love with sim racing and now spend hours every day driving. So I wanted that extra power and speed of the Simucube ❤️
how much better do you find the Sim Cube Pro 2?
@@SeyePhithere is absolutely no comparison. Night and days between them. I mean the fanatec 25nm cant hold up with simucube…and it costs the same. Fanatec is just shit compared to the competition.
@@volkarach0293what are you talking about? Simucube is 900 dollar more expensive and it comes with only the base
ordered my csl dd today, hope ill have as much fun as you are :P
just goes to show that the pricing on these products is purely down to how much they believe they can extract, rather than the materials, labour and logistics. capitalism baby
That’s how everything is tho…. If you tear down a ps5 that parts alone wouldn’t even be worth the 500$ price point, it probably costs them less than 80$ to make them if anything lol.
@@dbzcollector9963 absolutely
@@17peteclarke these days your paying more for the brand name than the product it’s crazy, You can slap a logo on a 1$ shirt and it’ll automatically be worth 25-50$ depending on how big the brand is 🙃.
I have recently just ordered this setup from Fanatec. I have never owned a Race sim and I've been thinking about it for well over a years. It really was a no brainer at that price to jump into it. Can't wait!
mine comes tmr!!
I love racing RC cars, but winter is brutal. No racing to be had in my area because we don't have any indoor tracks yet. Plus we only race about 2 times a month. So I have been tossing the idea of getting into sim racing around for a while. I think my mind just got made up. That's such a killer deal and with the upgrade potential it seems like a no brainer for someone in my situation.
I rocked my g27 with HE Ultimate pedals for over a year until I got my DD. Don’t skimp on pedals, so worth it.
Logitech G27 with Heusinkveld? Bro you really don't cheapskate on pedals do you?
@@thrasherdave1428 Pedals were an obvious choice for me. DD wheel was in that phase of all these new brands and I couldn’t make my mind up. Ended up going with Moza r9.
Now they just need this pricing on the PS5 version
waiting for moza and simagic to drop price😎
The boost kit is the biggest Con job in simracing, Use reverse thinking here guy's, so Fanatec sell a wheel and limit the package to 5Nm but then have an option to upgrade to 8Nm by purchasing a kit at €150 !!!!!!!! What an underhanded thing to do when the DD Base is capable of 8Nm from the outset and that kit which is just a power brick costs about €30 off the shelf, I for one are glad Fanatec are in trouble as they are one of the worst company's in simracing, Just my opinion but I hope you can see a valid point.
Where is the QR2, or are they not bothering with it any more?
oh well you know when you first got started I watched your channel all the time because I thought it was fun and interesting now it seems like it's disclaimer after disclaimer and then basically the entire videos about selling the next fantastic thing and some racing the problem is is pretty much every unit you've showed me is for PC the occasional usable direct drive thrown in not Sony authorized just Sony compatible I have been on a DD and my old CSL elite at the same time in the same room on two different systems in the CSL elite from years ago smokes the DD when it comes to Fidelity less shakiness less jitter smoother changing settings actually makes a difference that's a big part by the way. I guess maybe people are forgetting how many grant players are out there in the world as it sits right now it's close to 50 million now if you can show me any PC segment that contains 50 million players then I'll say it's important and I know you have to cover all the segments but let me say that term again 50 million so let's try focusing on why PlayStation is having problems with Fanatec, or why you can't buy their products at Amazon or why they had the worlds worst customer service this is called news and information if you're just gonna review products as products and not tell us anything about what's going on in the Sim world there's 100 channels doing the same thing as soon as I heard you say they sent this to me but we're gonna do a non-biased opinion I was done seen this disease infect other channels until pretty soon it was all about products so unfortunately after 3 years I'm going to have to Unsub from your channel. that is unless you can convince me we're going to start talking about what matters to Sim racers and it's not equipment that's all personal taste let's talk about what's going on in the world. i'll ask you personally and you can answer if you want do you know why there is no fanatec Sony authorized products? And do you know why they're no longer available at amazon the largest retailer on the planet? if you can give me a real answer on either of those subjects I may consider staying on your channel not that it really matters I'm just one person but I have been Sim racing since Sim racing wasn't a thing
Honestly feels like a kick in the shorts. I paid around 550$ for the dd base with the 8nm upgrade. Because their wheels were so expensive I had to retrofit a trans am wheel I had laying around with 3d printed brackets and I had to make some pedals out of trash. Now I see i could have gotten a whole setup for allot less.... FML
cammus dd wheel costs 250€ so yeah
unbelievable the quality 400 dollars gets you in sim racing gear whereas flight sim would cost 4 times as much for cheap 3d printed parts slapped together.
Great video as usual. Your production quality is top notch.
One question from me. Have you looked at the TM T818 seems that there are mixed reviews. Would like to see your opinion at some point in the future.
Had the DD since release, still loving it.👍
They are probably trying to drain all their stock for when the Q2 version releases
i think so as well
Seriously how can they justify this amazing price on PC for that bundle yet &#$@ over PS4/5 users where the bundle is the same except for the actual wheel itself yet they charge you double ... 1200+ yeah that's bullshit fanatic
I picked up the ddpro with lc and boost recently then got the 300 rs wheel … absolutely zero regrets. Just need the shifter now
Why can't you buy these anymore? Will they be available again? Website says no longer available
I do want to say doe if you want a clutch and shifter knob Moza is by the cheaper way to go as they allow you to add it to their bundle for alot cheaper
I want clutch and stick and including currently black Friday deals this sums up to 600€ @ fanatec (CSL DD Ready2Race Bundle for PC (5 Nm) + CSL Pedal Clutch kit + ClubSport Shifter + USB Adapter), again on black Friday deal. This compared to 220€ logitech 29 including stick and clutch. So for me atm as a beginner in sim racing logitech is the way to go. The prices might be low, but for real 600€ is a lot of money...
I might hate it though and give u an update :)
What is the true cost of dealing with Fanatec though? Worst customer support in the industry, slipping shipping dates ( but they’ll take your money quickly), no way to contact them ( try sending an request using their web form - you only get a canned response, try calling their EU number - it says they have suspended the voice service, call US customer support - voicemail is full). F these guys.
I have a dd1 podium F1 and after 6-7 months the F1 wheel basically cracked in two, lost connection to the wheel and ff disappeared. Have sent it to Fanatec and bought a DD Pro GT as a backup. After a few weeks now the wheel works for 1-2 laps before it loses connection, all buttons stops working and all the ff disappears. So I’m not super impressed of Fanatecs quality. Feels really nice the 2 laps it works though
In which platforms does this work ? And does it also function on PS5 with GT7 since I bought a PSVR2 I want to have the full experience with a nice DD drive that doesn’t break the bank
FAN A TEC... ITS LITERALLY INFRONT OF YOU... and the German fella that made the company, he says FAN A TEC...
Fanatec is the better option. The R5 is about $800 usd with shifter and clutch and the clunky brake upgrade. With Fanatec you get a load cell brake, and shifter for a few dollars more.
Is the Fanatec CSL DD ( the cheap starter kit) compatible to a new Xbox?
I have a pc and xbox series s and yes.. G923 or CSL DD
Now one would think that a table clamp would be part of the wheel base, I wouldn't be very happy buying all this very expensive stuff and opening it up and setting it up to find there is no clamp for my desk, Sorry no racing for you today buddy boy "WTF" That's just a scam really to force more money from us and extra posting costs on you, I assume not all would know about this deliberate withholding of the clamp, I mean Logitech include one, its built in and hardware provided to bolt it solid to your desk as a FREE option
I don't have a wheel yet but this is definitely on the menu provided that it's a permanent price cut.
That plastic fanatec shaft and plastic quick release(QR Lite) is a deal breaker. Hopefully Moza r5 bundle price comes down to match fanatec's price cut