The Ultimate Suppressed SBS: The Genesis Arms PDS
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- For our last piece of video coverage from TriggrCon 2024, Luke C (@BallisticAviation )is speaking with Genesis Arms about their new PDS or "Personal Defense Shotgun." This barely 24" long Short Barreled Shotgun sports an 8" reciprocating barrel that keeps the intense recoil of 12 gauge down to a minimum. When combined with the special fixed mount Ventum suppressor, the concussion is also brought down to a manageable level for effective use during indoor shooting or door breaching. As an added cherry on top, the variant that Genesis Arms has brought to this year's Range Day is also full-auto - to help demonstrate how fun and effective the new Genesis PDS can be.
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as a short king, thank you for representing my people
I am really liking Luke's interviews. Friendly, but asks the hard questions too.
I only heard softballs
I love when Hop does these so we can see him look down on all the presenters at these events, but it's also funny watching Luke C. look up at everyone. Please never hire someone who's normal height for these James.
5 foot 10 inches is avg. height for men in US. Cody is way above that. I'm over 6'5" so most people I meet would have to look up to me.
That dude is a monster!
No, Luke is just short.
Two Hops in a black tactical trench coat.
Lmao, bro Hop is 6’11”
@@WAgunfunnah 6’3
Not really. He’s tall for sure but he is lacking mass.
I love how the long recoil action keeps popping up. What a cool design
The combination of the 8" barrel with the Ventum suppressor is impressive, especially with how it tames the 12 gauge recoil. Perfect for CQB scenarios or home defense where overpressure can be a real issue.
I absolutely couldn't agree more!! Well stated
10:30 wtf man lmao
Just Ak guys being ak guys...
What, you've never seen a tall leprechaun with moobs, before?
10:18 The idea.
10:30 The execution.
He knows how to party
Oh god I recognize him. I was in line and him and his buddy were talking about their youtube careers and spending way to much on uber eats.
Sick
Out of the box innovation. Cool stuff
I love it. Great innovation, engineering, and focus on the end user/application. Excellent
I have a 10.5 Gen 12. Can confirm its fuckin awesome. Literally eats everything I've fed it. Even old deformed shells. Its my favorite firearm by far.
Cody is a freakin Giant
all the fudds are gonna cry about this
beautiful piece of equipment right there
That thing is so dope.
That beard is the envy of many a man. Well cut, full, and defines his jaw. Jealous.
1 handsome fella 😂
I appreciate the Spartan helmet on Cody’s name tag, as he’s basically the right height and build to be one :)
Everyone tripping on the price like its not intentionally top of the line everything is like people bitching a ferrari isnt priced the same as a corolla
For 5k you could buy 25 Maverick 88s.
Or you could buy a real shotgun with a light, sling, chokes, and shell carriers. Buy buckshot, birdshot, slugs, less lethal, breaching, and flares. I genuinely can't think of anything left to spend on a shotgun.
This shotgun is not just expensive, it's also worse than a turkish import. Stick to your grandpas rem870 he got from his police buddy in 1976.
@@moustacheman7130could buy a benelli m4 and trick it out
@@poip202 Certainly could. I'm partial to pumps because nothing is more versatile than an 18" 5+1 12ga pump with chokes. 12ga is powerful enough that I don't need to shoot it quickly. I don't care for semi autos and the m4 especially. Too heavy. Too complex. Too expensive.
@@moustacheman7130 a "real" shotgun? Okay boomer. By your logic these "ar15s" aren't real rifles either.
"$3k for a rifle?! You could buy like 18000 bolt actions with slings and 30-06"
Bro it's a combat shotgun designed for particular use cases and engineered to do them phenomenally well. Show me ANY other gun that can do what this does, for cheaper, and we'll talk. Otherwise you're just b*tching for nothing
@@moustacheman7130yes you left out a good mustache you need to buy one yours sucks and don't call yourself a man grow one or buy one first from turkey 😉
That looks like a good home defense shotgun.
The best in my opinion
This shotgun really is the best thing that's out there in terms of the options and what you're able to do with it. Yea, it costs much more than your turkish shotguns, but you're actually getting a usable system that has no tradeoffs. Manual shotguns have no place in a modern context or even tube shotguns in semi-auto when you have something that can easily have a magazine swapped. I personally run my 10.5" SBM with a different PDW stock system and the rex silentium can because it's the most durable option out there.
Well stated sir, 👏 agree......if you have run these weapons you know!!
Pretty cool.
Tarzan’s model is called ‘the precious’.
Drum fed semi auto shotguns are a vibe.
Who was that one channel that started covering Genesis Arms way back in like 2018?
Gbguns my favorite 😊😊 you rock!!
Finally a nice looking AR type shotgun that actually works. We just need the price lowered now.
new nickname unlocked " Lead wall "
Awesome work Genesis...so much want!
Not sure Luke understands why the suppressor is functioning to reduce back pressure when breaching you are basically covering the barrel risking over pressuring it?
Very cool 😎👍👍
Looks like a f'n honey badger in this guys hands lmao.
What the fuck did they feed that guy? Other people!?
Yes
Lots of eggs too
Please get this man a step stool
no way that'd ruin the magic
Will there be an aow version for non sbs states?
Is there a version for lefties? Thanks!
I want this shotgun with a double stack magazine.
Need to make more money! 💰 😂
That’s actually one of the biggest problems. People seem to think that the more money you make should justifies the worth of a product.
Most of gas operated shotgun in market i knows with less than 10" barrel loss over 350 on 1350 f/s box claimed
There is a lot of gas operated turkish shotgun in market for4-5 years with my measurment
Winchester active duty 1350 f/s
On 9.5 inch barrel derya mk12 test speed is only 930 f/s for average 5 shots
If that shorty genesis g12 can do over 1000 as you said it would be impressive
please show it on YT i can not find anywhere about number on google or others there is no yt channel talk about it
Awesome. But damn, that price.
These guns FTE/FTF if it’s not shouldered while firing. Seent it. Do I still want one? Yes
Dude looks like a Tactical Ben Roethlisberger
The most important question is what are your heights…
Was that humble marksmen at the beginning?
No that was Braggadocios Sharp Shooter
Very cool, but $5k for a short recoil shotgun is absolutely wild
The dude in the background at 10:31 to 10:34....😂
Yes because someone is goin to spend this kind of money and wait just for them to potentially have it taken and never given back. Makes sense to me too
Uhmm, the guy in the story was supposedly hanging in this breaching scenario? is it really easier to reload a 5 round box mag while hanging than a tube shotgun??? 5 rounds is cool and all, but I'm confused about claiming it's easier to reload without a backup magazine (5 isn't more than 3 + 3 + more.)
Cool shotgun though, but for actual fighting I feel like you'd need to be pretty sure of the mag feeding.
Send to Canada! I’m in the Appalachian Mountains 😂
👍👍👍🇮🇩
Remind me not to piss off Cody.
Do not piss off CODY 😂
What is it bring your son to work day? You’re not there with Cody there with your dad Jesus man where did you find that Sasquatch?
When my legislation to abolish the NFA and allow machine gun ownership passes I am going to celebrate by buying one of these things.
Based. Gotta sneak it in an omnibus bill that has a few thousand pages in the hours before it’s gonna get voted on. In the words of Nancy Pelosi “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it”
@@R.E.factor Those days will be gone soon. I am working on an America First team in the Senate that will not even consider anything but SINGLE ISSUE BILLS!!!
Are you actually a congressman or senator, and if so, what district?
@@voteholyk as it should always be
@@shawnwillis7561 I came in 3rd place in the WA US Senate race, now I am the front runner for 2028 to take on Patty Murray.
I just came on the scene.
We won't have the number until 2028. This is a long game.
Is he giant or the other guy just short
yes
@@TFBTVShowTime good answer
With short barrels on shotguns doesn't increase your spread only maybe by a little you just lose velocity stop the myth a short barrel increase your spread massively
Yes without the suppressor but with suppressor it's awesome
Jesus, people really need to start refusing to pay such high prices for firearms. It’s getting insane!
You can just buy a $300 pump action and let other people buy the spendy boutique guns.
@@rpblccmmndo389 Yes, but that still doesn’t change the price of firearms. To many people are willing to pay crazy high prices for what is “cool”. That’s one reason why prices are so high, literally no different than buying vehicles.
This is really basic economics. This is a very niche item that will never be made in large quantities. It has pretty unique and desirable capabilities, but those come at a price. The only way to make something like this that has a lot of R&D time and money in it affordable is to make a lot of them. It's not priced the way it is for fun. It's because this is the only way to recoup development costs because relatively few of these are ever going to be made. Also, to get performance like what is being described here probably also takes more expensive materials to start with. It's not about people "refusing" to pay high prices for exotic/niche/high end guns and other items. You might as well gripe about people paying so much for Ferraris. If you're a poor, those cars and this gun were simply not made for you. It's that simple. This gun serves a specific market and it's not you. Deal with it.
It's a mag fed reciprocating pdw shotgun and a huxwrx suppressor - this isn't bubbas pump action, so idk why you expect it to be priced like it is
Its a high price due to the machining and technology that goes into making each one. Probably costs like $400+ to make one with the multi hundred thousand dollar machinery they have. also it's a mag fed 12g, if it's reliable and good/bougie gun then it's gonna be more. Look at benelli.
$6k and you get a 12 gauge that looks like a $150 Bear creek arsenal side charging AR with a $100 midwest rail....ya ill pass
It's a lot of money and I won't be buying one but you got to understand this shotgun is revolutionary
As someone who owns a BCA side charging upper, my AR looks better than this. The cylindrical charging handle of the gen 1 BCA which this seems to copy was known to loosen up because the screw through the center was able to rotate. I expect to see that happen to this especially bc it's a 12ga. My gen 2 upper has a charging handle that looks more like an AK/m1/M14 etc. and it's made more sturdily than this. This is really bottom of the barrel aesthetics. Not that that's what matters in a gun but you have to know that a $5000 3 stamp shotgun is not going to be the pinnacle of practicality. It's a range toy for the criminally insane and Ian on forgotten weapons next year.
@@Survivinglife871 yea Im old enough to remember the year or two in the early 00s when saiga 12s SBSs were popular. Same idea. Never caught on.
@@mattg9971 my point is the gas system, accuracy, rate of fire, reliability of the shotgun is awesome. Whether it fails or not I don't know and I don't care
Lol this.
Inb4 cope from LARPers
I rather see guns that every civilian can own without having to pay an unnecessary tax or jump through a bunch of hoops
There's about 100 other companies that do that - not everyone needs this gun and it's capabilities, so it's not *for* that
Drones beware.
Free pair of these to every adult in the country, regardless of citizenship. Pay for it with the budget freed up by abolishing the police. Like or never call yourself pro 2a.
A Mossberg Shockwave is the ideal breacher basically. They make mag fed ones too if you hate shotguns like theyre intended to be. Full auto shotguns are range toys. A shotgun that shoots something once and does its job doesn't need to be full auto. Also, whos out here complaining about the manual of arms for a shotgun? Bang pump repeat. If youre reloading a shotgun under pressure youve already messed up.
This isnt just a gimmick, its a poorly marketed gimmick.
Hmm the entire law enforcement community not a gimmick facts you are literally saying a single action revolver is the same as a glock you smart so smart!!
@@JiuJitsuPandaaa
I have a preference for pumps over semi because you can run any type of load through them with the same reliable. Versatility is the biggest strength of a shotgun. A consistent manual of arms across all shotguns (lethal less lethal and breaching) is a big advantage. Granted, semi autos are faster but it's a shotgun, you dont need to double tap a target.
A full auto shotgun is absolutely and entirely pointless.
As for having a suppressor, that's cool. But shotgun suppressors already exist. If you want to innovate in that area, make an integral suppressor that wraps around the magazine tube. That way you can keep the capacity and overall length the same as a standard pump.
I'm not saying this is mechanically identical. I'm saying it's still a shotgun and there are several good reasons why the saiga and the AA12 never caught on. Tube fed pumps and semi auto shotguns are already the perfect form factor.
5000 shotgun 🙄
For a mag fed reciprocating pdw shotgun AND a huxwrx suppressor - like what did you expect it to be?
@@A_Qwynide huxwrx cans are like sub $1000. And they make semi auto shotguns for like $300 dollars all day 😂
@@mattg9971 this niggas brain so smooth I'm boutta ice skate on it this winter
@@mattg9971 they are not sub-$1000, and are not all titanium *shotgun* suppressors which are a whole 'nother engineering animal.
And sure, you go ahead and show me another full auto capable, suppressor capable, breaching shotgun for $300 - I'll wait.
@@mattg9971yes you should buy cheap Chinese everything and complain about our jobs going overseas 😢😢
The price is fucking range rape... the people pricing these are fucking up the 2a scene... it's wrong on so many levels... and they are exploiting the consumers wants...
Some people haven't noticed the dollar was devalued by 50% in the past 4 years.
It's a low production 2 stamp gun
It's one of a kind (in capability) and took like a decade to develop AND comes with a suppressor - wtf did you expect?
Maybe get the gang to pitch in and you can all share one like you share an ice cream cone
Because it was designed for the feds. It wasn't designed for citizens or "2A" supporters. It was designed for the $5 million dollar FBI contract Genesis/Huxwrx won.
2k for a freaking scatter gun is ridiculous
So scatter out of these comments