Suzuki VS Peugeot | Cheap Nugget Battle (Dyno, Weight + Race)

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @mightycarmods
    @mightycarmods  Год назад +375

    We really enjoyed testing these nugget cars out and hope you enjoy this episode.
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    • @79huddy
      @79huddy Год назад +10

      You guys need to do a 24hrs of nuggets invitational and invite all the boys a whole grid of 1.6 litre nuggets going balls out for 24hrs of racing could be epic

    • @Craig-wp3pz
      @Craig-wp3pz Год назад +1

      International Nugget Racing at its best 🧆🏁👌 🙌 👏
      Nuggets always need more sauce though! 🥫🧂

    • @Barra4.0L
      @Barra4.0L Год назад

      Hello

    • @outofthi5world567
      @outofthi5world567 Год назад

      As you said in your video buy an equivalent car to what your mates have, I have an idea for yous since you bought the cheapest example in the country, find a car you both like and one of you buy the cheapest example and the other buy the most expensive example in the country, see what it takes to get the cheapest one to the same level, see what's still wrong with the most expensive one and then modify them using genuine parts for the expensive one and knockoff parts for the cheap one.

    • @feenyx6394
      @feenyx6394 Год назад

      That looked like such a good time!
      I used to own a 106 Rallye that was a right hoot to drive, and living in Europe meant parts availability was obviously better, and way cheaper.
      rev happy 1.6 liter, 103 horsepower, and only 860kg of car to lug around. It moved very well!
      We didn't get the 1.6 in the Swift here sadly, only the 1.3. The chassis is probably still solid, don't know how much else changes with the Sport version you've got there?

  • @quixototalis
    @quixototalis Год назад +1303

    The Peugbro turned Marty into a giggling track gremlin. Hunched over the wheel cackling as he locked up and four-wheel-drifted around corners to keep Moog at bay. Say what you want about either of these cars, that looked like a ridiculous amount of fun for both!

    • @georgeoliver8300
      @georgeoliver8300 Год назад

      There are 2 types of people in this world. People who love Peugeots and people who haven’t driven them

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Год назад +51

      i used to run a mk1 golf cabriolet on the nurburgring, had KWs and super sticky falkens under it, but mostly stock drivetrain. it was the MOST fun ive ever had in a car anywhere on earth. several hundred laps, several sets of tires and brakes, and memories that will never go away. what an absolute shitbox but what an absolutely amazing time.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад +5

      @@ghomerhust You're a very lucky guy 👍

    • @leocuntface
      @leocuntface Год назад +6

      @@ghomerhust ive been looking into getting one of those as Jason Cammisa keeps saying its the most fun car he has driven

    • @GetOffMyLog
      @GetOffMyLog Год назад

      ​@@leocuntface yeah and he's a maniac so I'd love to experience one

  • @xtian_stw
    @xtian_stw Год назад +326

    Always loved the 206, shame you didn't get the GTI 180. Sports variant vs sports variant. So far it's been a bit unfair on the old pug, was very surprised to see how well it did against the swift considering it's just the pov base spec commuter version.
    Looking forward to seeing you turn it into a 206 WRC tribute!

    • @Biohazard667Productions
      @Biohazard667Productions Год назад +52

      kinda agree.. but the 206 GTI is waay faster then the swift sport.. it's a 2 liter 16v so not really matching the swift in that area

    • @PoloRolo94
      @PoloRolo94 Год назад +30

      If the Peugeot wins then Moog should get a clio 182 and then Marty can get the gti 180, or other way round even.

    • @Matt09pearce
      @Matt09pearce Год назад +14

      Exactly. Not sure why at all you would take the 1.6 over a GTi.

    • @uttz7
      @uttz7 Год назад +14

      True but the 1.6 16v has a lot of potential wrt to modification. I have a 206 gti 180 for 12 years raced and daily’d never had issues, just wear and tear items nothing more

    • @filmboy18
      @filmboy18 Год назад +2

      @@PoloRolo94 Did Australia even get the clio 172/182?

  • @adamkay9897
    @adamkay9897 Год назад +542

    That’s the happiest I’ve seen Marty in a car. 😂

    • @MisterSimplistic
      @MisterSimplistic Год назад +12

      Honestly it was really contagious

    • @rexburg22re
      @rexburg22re Год назад +2

      Agreed, he sounded so giddy!

    • @tuckervfx
      @tuckervfx Год назад +6

      How can you NOT be that happy in a nugget like that 😂

    • @KristovMars
      @KristovMars Год назад +7

      That's one of the most fun videos I've seen on MCM in ages! I was laughing and cheering along through the race, and it was obvious that both guys were having a blast!
      Looking forward to seeing more of this sort of content - getting back to basics, attainable cars, and just having a great time. Love it!

    • @scotttse2756
      @scotttse2756 Год назад +1

      ​@@MisterSimplistic😅😅😅😅😅😊

  • @matty.senpai
    @matty.senpai Год назад +101

    The TU5JP4 is one of the better French 16-valve engines, on an armored cast iron block. Very amenable to modification. You can pull about ~150 horsepower out of it cheaply by changing the exhaust manifold, adding sharp camshafts with adjustable pulleys and an aluminum intake manifold from a Citroen C2 VTS, all topped off with tuning. Combined with the car's low weight, it makes for an incredibly fun driving experience :)

    • @hughparris2073
      @hughparris2073 Год назад +1

      I wonder if they can find a whole TU5JP4S out of a C2 VTS - that would be a good upgrade on its own!

    • @TheSgtAngry
      @TheSgtAngry Год назад +3

      I agree, I have a TU5JP4 in a 1st gen C3 and while the car itself is garbage, that engine with a manual is so much fun to trash around and is incredibly reliable as well.

    • @fedorflasnik
      @fedorflasnik Год назад +3

      @@TheSgtAngry Same here with the Peugeot 206 Roland Garros and 1.6 i 16v 110 (TU5JP4). Great engine and very fun to drive everyday... :)

    • @zirkow1368
      @zirkow1368 Год назад +5

      yeah idk where that mecanic have seen that 206 weren't reliable because that is obviously wrong, especially in this version !

    • @harrybruijs2614
      @harrybruijs2614 Год назад +1

      I think when you port the had and put throttle bodies on it, it will do far more then 150

  • @subarustavi
    @subarustavi Год назад +342

    I love that most channels at this point in their career would be buying Mclarens and GTRs but these guys are still buying nuggets and having real relatable fun. By the way if Marty or Moog read this, I bought a Honda Beat because of you guys so thanks. 63 hp never felt so good.

    • @ashkay780
      @ashkay780 Год назад +5

      My 830KG MK1 1.0 Yaris 67bhp is equal as fun 😁

    • @aidantuckwell9191
      @aidantuckwell9191 Год назад +6

      Ehhhh if you look at a lot of what theyve been doing as they grew, it isnt very relatable unless you have a lot of money to burn. This is the first time in a while they seem to have gone way back to their roots, in the current era (what cheap fun things are people thrashing now vs 15 years ago)

    • @SimpleCarGuy
      @SimpleCarGuy Год назад +5

      @@aidantuckwell9191 and they will probably end up spending $10k on each car in the next few weeks. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to do that myself and probably will of my channel gets somewhere, but it’s hard to justify to do this not for RUclips.

    • @frankbrokercr
      @frankbrokercr Год назад +1

      It's not all about hp... it's how you drive it, and the feels

    • @jvf7762
      @jvf7762 Год назад +1

      With nuggets like this, they are able to go harder and have more fun with less serious business because the cars capabilities are so much lower. Cars like that are excellent fun to drive hard because you aren’t going to be like mustang bro wrapped around a tree.
      With monster cars you have to be more serious and much more careful instead of just running them flat out.

  • @RichieRouge206
    @RichieRouge206 Год назад +61

    I'm behind the 206 - the car that everyone hates but it's a plucky contender. Don't forget it's dad - 205GTi and other siblings- 306GTi6, 405Mi16, 106GTi... awesome cars. Can't wait to see the mods.
    Superb video guys, it was so much fun tagging along 😀

    • @filmboy18
      @filmboy18 Год назад +1

      Back when Peugeot made absolute weapons that were too fast for their own good but still affordable for a young lad. Slow by todays standards but back then absolute weapons.

    • @royliber3824
      @royliber3824 Год назад +1

      I still love the fact the 208 GTI "kinda" runs its legacy. I know its turbo-charged, makes much more HP and the fun factor potentially goes down with all the electronics truly interrupting the ultimate driving feel but i'm just happy Peugeot didn't niglect completey the GTI lineup. Now a good used one is quite affordable where I live which is nice as well and definitely considering it a future car.

  • @_autoverse
    @_autoverse Год назад +398

    There’s some pure Gran Turismo vibes to seeing these two on a track.

    • @BenWalker01
      @BenWalker01 Год назад +38

      Even sounds like an old Gran Turismo game with that tyre noise haha

    • @mightycarmods
      @mightycarmods  Год назад +128

      Sunday Cup!

    • @quadruple_negative
      @quadruple_negative Год назад +6

      @@mightycarmods Tahiti Rd is where I learned to drive!

    • @GuntanksInSpace
      @GuntanksInSpace Год назад +3

      As they said, Sunday Cup vibes but MCM went way harder than I did at it lol.
      Love the Nuggets!

    • @rickybarlow5918
      @rickybarlow5918 Год назад +7

      Sunday cup, autumn ring.....mini

  • @ShinnSin
    @ShinnSin Год назад +33

    The Peugbro is still my fav as this is breaking new ground on a platform that both M&M have no worked on. I'm excited to see them track this again as they seem to be having a blast.

  • @benllewelyn98
    @benllewelyn98 Год назад +55

    Those little 206's are known in the UK for being pretty bulletproof simple cheap easy to get parts for apart from rust and the odd electrical issue they're not that bad and you can buy one for like £500

    • @daktari
      @daktari Год назад +15

      I've seen people running 206s with no oil or coolant.
      Let's be honest here, the 206 is a bulletproof car and cheap to run, the only issue would be finding parts in Australia where I'm guessing they aren't that common. In Euroland they're everywhere so you can just go to the scrap and find whatever body panel or part you seek for cheap.
      Also this is the internet, the Americans won't be voting on online polls for French cars, because even though they've never seen one IRL they believe they're terrible "because French lol".

    • @dracaufi
      @dracaufi Год назад +1

      @@daktari nothing to add !

    • @ElySky95
      @ElySky95 Год назад

      Burn it, worst car i ever had, almost everything broke even had to swap in a new engine.

    • @dracaufi
      @dracaufi Год назад +1

      @@ElySky95 strange, that's a truly solid car, no joke
      Which engine it was ?

    • @nealwright5622
      @nealwright5622 Год назад

      Their Achilles heel (very appropriately) is the rear axle - the trailing arms pivot on needle bearings which rot away along with the stub that they mount on and the rear wheels develop a large amount of negative camber, sometimes so much that the tyres rub the inner arches! Entire rear axle replacement required every few years. There are entire companies that specialise in supply of refurbed axles. It's not a particularly expensive or difficult job to do the swap at least. Possibly in the Australian climate it's not so much of an issue.

  • @MrJeepinZeke
    @MrJeepinZeke Год назад +15

    The amount of smiles and enthusiasm in this video is impeccable. Can’t wait to see more!

  • @oskar6661
    @oskar6661 Год назад +160

    This could be the greatest showdown in MCM history. Also probably the most fun I've seen you guys have in cars in quite some time.

  • @Ollie2846
    @Ollie2846 Год назад +20

    I can't remember the last time I saw you two having so much fun at a track day. Awesome content. Best channel on RUclips! Can't wait for the mods.

  • @Ekisoscar
    @Ekisoscar Год назад +205

    This series turs out to be epic! Looking forward to seeing them modified!

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Год назад +2

      yeah with tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust and tune, thats about all you'll need to jump to the next level. but it will be interesting to see what mods they decide to go with

  • @andrewsilver9730
    @andrewsilver9730 Год назад +23

    I love them intensely driving their nuggets while the Yaris is relaxed and following them like a parent

  • @da-mazing8500
    @da-mazing8500 Год назад +71

    This for me, is exactly what MCM is all about

  • @TheSkyline35
    @TheSkyline35 Год назад +1

    The 206 is a reliable beast, seriously this mechanic's opinion is surprising. Here in France they are still driving EVERYWHERE. They are very solid.
    French cars are really poor reliability between 2004-2012 era.
    The 206 is solid. The 207 with the 1.6 however is a tick bomb

  • @andrewhudson7481
    @andrewhudson7481 Год назад +130

    Thanks for returning to accessible cars that we can all relate to. New performance VWs and Lotuses etc are all very nice, but they just aren’t our reality.
    Also, it’s always more fun to go fast in a slow car than to go slowly in a fast car!

    • @TheosEpicVideos
      @TheosEpicVideos Год назад +3

      What everyone has been thinking for a long time.

    • @InterTay
      @InterTay Год назад

      Agreed

    • @leejohnson6173
      @leejohnson6173 Год назад +3

      When have they ever had unattainable cars?..Never have I seen a super rare or expensive car on here and I have been watching them since day one.

    • @TheosEpicVideos
      @TheosEpicVideos Год назад +2

      @@leejohnson6173 - Lee you old money bags you.
      Wait here while I pop off to purchase my rare 270 with a built RB for a couple grand like the swift. Lol

    • @raynman6466
      @raynman6466 Год назад +1

      ​@lee johnson apparently anything that isn't a nugget is unattainable to everyone that watches mcm😂

  • @daktari
    @daktari Год назад +4

    Tons of parts available to upgrade the 206. The S16 and XSi FWD are still ultra common in rally racing in Europe.

  • @dgbservices6049
    @dgbservices6049 Год назад

    My mate’s a mechanic, he’s had a 206 for 9 years now. He hated French motors until he acquired it but he loves his little Pug and says it’s the best car he’s ever owned for value/dependability. Still goes and handles well too!

  • @trentmcvey9249
    @trentmcvey9249 Год назад +61

    I have an almost identical Swift Sport (same colour and all) that is in the process of being set up as a track car. So far it's had the interior stripped, suspension done, roll cage, race seat & harness, exhaust, intake, wheels, semi slick tyres, motor still stock and a Chopped keyring. Ran a 56 at the same track. Got cams and a tune in the pipeline. Would be great to compare and see your build progress. It's a ton of fun.

    • @whatwhatyep
      @whatwhatyep Год назад +17

      +6bhp for the keyring easy.

    • @misturchips
      @misturchips Год назад +9

      You should see if MOog would want to side-by-side them before he puts too much effort into his...

    • @trentmcvey9249
      @trentmcvey9249 Год назад +2

      @@misturchips Sounds like a good idea to me, just need to get in touch with them somehow.

    • @iamaparanoidandroid1
      @iamaparanoidandroid1 Год назад +1

      ​@@trentmcvey9249 there's and email in the channel about section.

    • @trentmcvey9249
      @trentmcvey9249 Год назад

      @@iamaparanoidandroid1 Yes, but they say on their website that they rarely answer emails because they get too many

  • @alwaysdead5328
    @alwaysdead5328 Год назад +6

    This is a great series and awesome to see a cheap entry into track racing. Even better to see a couple of mates getting out there and having such a laugh and 100% just enjoying the competitiveness this encourages!

  • @leobrambs
    @leobrambs Год назад +103

    As a Peugbro owner i loved it, this will be an awesome series. And yes the backend of those baggets are way too light, witch is fun as hell. Can't wait to see the next episode!

    • @Cyberdeamon
      @Cyberdeamon Год назад +2

      Would you recommend them putting a bag of cement in the rear lol

    • @hovis1647
      @hovis1647 Год назад +2

      Lighten the front to compensate

    • @2dcutout
      @2dcutout Год назад +1

      *Baguette.

    • @leobrambs
      @leobrambs Год назад

      @@2dcutout 🥖

    • @2dcutout
      @2dcutout Год назад

      @@leobrambs this video got me looking at French hot hatches. They're way more capable than most nuggets.

  • @drftyou
    @drftyou Год назад +4

    I love seeing the absolutely gigantic smiles while they are slinging the cars around in stock form!! This looks like so much fun!

    • @jakubroszka1021
      @jakubroszka1021 Год назад

      That Peugeot can be faster without gas 😂 i owned one xd

  • @olivermartin3384
    @olivermartin3384 Год назад +108

    Looking forward to marty learning about torsion bar suspension..! Lift of oversteer for the win!

    • @krisdewar5162
      @krisdewar5162 Год назад +2

      I was just about to write the same thing

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Год назад +1

      Lift off oversteer has nothing to do with having torsion bars vs coil springs. Both the Swift and the Pug have somewhat similar rear suspension designs (i.e. trailing arms) that provide zero camber control of the rear wheels which is why they are so eager to step out when you lift off.

    • @tiagobelo4965
      @tiagobelo4965 Год назад +10

      ​@@ferrumignis this is not the torsion bar you are thinking about, in this case "torsions bar" refers to a specific sort of semi-dependent trailing arm suspension

    • @adambcvg
      @adambcvg Год назад +10

      ​@@ferrumignis the 206 lift off oversteers because of the rubber beam mounts. They allow the whole thing to twist, changing the toe + camber angles.

    • @nimaforoughi7266
      @nimaforoughi7266 Год назад

      ​@@tiagobelo4965 Are you thinking of a Panhard bar?

  • @KamikazeDigital
    @KamikazeDigital Год назад +9

    This is going to be an amazing series. I hope it becomes an annual thing, the ultra-cheap track nugget showdown. I just want to see these regular little cars no one thinks about stripped bare and loud as.

  • @ricooskar8143
    @ricooskar8143 Год назад +134

    we need more european nuggets on this channel or any cars that the duo is unfamiliar with.

    • @Wirenfeldt1990
      @Wirenfeldt1990 Год назад +27

      A spicy Clio would be nice

    • @KomodoRacing
      @KomodoRacing Год назад +11

      ​@Wirenfeldt1990 I wish Marty went for a similar era Clio Sport, I had one about 12yrs ago and have been thinking of getting another recently.

    • @MickayG
      @MickayG Год назад +4

      @@Wirenfeldt1990 A spicy Clio is a very good choice, best choice when it comes to French cars from the past 20/25 years... or a spicy Megane. What also could be fun is a '04/'05 Skoda Fabia 1.9 TDI RS if they can get one in Aussieland. Those 1.9 TDI engines make about 95~100kW standard but just with a basic tune it will do at least 120kW and with some reasonable cheap performance parts it will do well over 130kW... lots of potential for little money. TG has done a bit on it where one of those outpaced a Mini Cooper S... only but is that the TDI Fabia is very front heavy and with standard suspension it's terrible in the corners.

    • @auto_revolt
      @auto_revolt Год назад +2

      A sleepy Volvo please 😂

  • @ralesdg4509
    @ralesdg4509 Год назад +2

    In Europe 206 is one of the most reliable cars. All engines are very reliable, they are cheap and easy to maintain and you have a plenty of parts everywhere. Also, it is the last car that was sold more then VW Golf. It is interesting how reputation of one car is changed in different regions of the world.

  • @VampyrMygg
    @VampyrMygg Год назад +35

    It's easy to forget how much location plays in, as here in Norway it's kinda the opposite, the 206 is cheap and easy to find parts for, the Swift Sport isn't sold in Norway, as Suzuki Norway only sells AWD Suzukis, though some people did special order some, so there's like 6 Swift Sports in Norway in total, parts having to be special ordered in some cases, as they don't have FWD bits at the Suzuki dealerships.
    That said though, as a friend of mine used to work at a Suzuki dealership he owned one of the 6 Swift Sports in Norway, and test driving it both when stock, and when on coilovers and 18" OZ magnesium wheels, it is a car that is quite glued to the road, but their proportions feel strange, like the roof is super tall when stood next to one.
    Haven't driven a normal 206, but they were incredibly common on the road, to the point of there being 206 racing leagues.
    I did however get driving lessons in a 206CC as my grandmother used to have one, most I remember of that was how annoyed I got at not having low RPM torque, so exiting a roundabout in 2nd gear to go up a small hill, I ended up having to downshift into 1st, which I was not used to having to do at all.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Год назад +5

      Even though the Swift Sport was available in the UK, parts are still expensive and there is much less aftermarket support compared to European brands. That also affects insurance, my Swift Sport insurance was nearly 50% higher than a newer, more valuable and more powerful Golf GTi. The Swift is far more fun to drive though.

  • @MrKenny777
    @MrKenny777 Год назад +1

    Marty knows how I feel driving home every night at 8pm in an ancient 206GTI along the A70 from Edinburgh. Some long straight stretches and some hairpin bends. Always legal speeds but still great fun. I love the Peugbros.

  • @andyheilmann1656
    @andyheilmann1656 Год назад +48

    I'm super excited to see the weight changes once you totally strip those out

  • @elek101
    @elek101 Год назад +7

    I think if the peugeot had exactly the same tires as the swift, it would smash it, they look slightly skinnier on video. Pretty funny considering its a slow poverty spec 206 compared to a swift sport lol. Great video as always, i had lots of fun watching marty be so entertained and happy

    • @johnjuiceshipper4963
      @johnjuiceshipper4963 Год назад +1

      The Swift Sport’s engine is missing about 25hp though, definitely needs some work because 100hp isn’t what this car usually has.

    • @desdee7615
      @desdee7615 Год назад

      ​@@johnjuiceshipper4963same with the 206 it may not be 25 horses but at least 10

  • @12pled
    @12pled Год назад +92

    Should have spent the extra on the 206 GTI, he was too worried about the mods and stuff but the GTI would have probably faired better in the fan vote

    • @georgeoliver8300
      @georgeoliver8300 Год назад +77

      The gti would be so much faster than the swift it wouldn’t have been a very entertaining video

    • @olliewebbuk
      @olliewebbuk Год назад +14

      @@georgeoliver8300 That's fine, Moog could've got a Clio 172/182. I've owned both and already know the outcome there though. :P

    • @starfox_wr-45e93
      @starfox_wr-45e93 Год назад +18

      @@olliewebbuk They both weren't going to get french cars tho were they

    • @Pugjamin
      @Pugjamin Год назад +6

      @@olliewebbuk but he already had the swift.

    • @theobolmer2056
      @theobolmer2056 Год назад +26

      Couldn't agree more. The GTI was the same price as Moog's Swift, prettier than the Swift (IMO), and would have spanked the Swift around the track. Plus I love to see cars we can't get here in the States.

  • @TheGenis97
    @TheGenis97 Год назад

    What a mechanic.. this 1.6 16v Peugeot engine is an absolut rock, no major issues known and super reliable and easy to modify.

  • @wowdogeful
    @wowdogeful Год назад +161

    God damn that Peugeot 206 has got to be the most expensive $500 car I've ever seen

    • @ricky107_
      @ricky107_ Год назад +8

      Yeah god damn 300 is plenty for one of those

    • @phuzz00
      @phuzz00 Год назад +40

      Depends where you live. In Europe you can find parts for them really easily, because it's reached the right age that loads are getting scrapped.

    • @arcadiagreen150
      @arcadiagreen150 Год назад +3

      I'd make someone pay ME to own it. Which makes it worth negative money

    • @bwickham195
      @bwickham195 Год назад +10

      Welcome to the Australia Tax.

    • @charlessale409
      @charlessale409 Год назад +7

      @@bwickham195 we are a looong way from Europe though so I guess it makes some sort of sense. A shame for a euro car enthusiast down here :(

  • @djnigellove
    @djnigellove Год назад +3

    mechanic straight up a dooche 'burn it" rally pedigree and WRC dominance

  • @av.nedelcu5910
    @av.nedelcu5910 Год назад +45

    Looks that Marty was having much more fun on the Peugbro. Love the series . Keen to what will happen next. Great show

  • @Judewh7
    @Judewh7 Год назад +5

    That Peugeot has massive potential, love the 206 great little cars

  • @melictso3551
    @melictso3551 Год назад +18

    Am i the only one wishing the 206 winning the race? 😂 I hope they won't put an loud exhaust and just put on a High flow air intake cause it really sounds amazing with one.

  • @richardw1992
    @richardw1992 Год назад

    I'm more excited about this series than I have been for ages. There's something so relatable about buying cheap little hatchbacks (not even the hot versions) a la what everyone learnt to drive in, then tweaking them.

  • @LouisPaterson
    @LouisPaterson Год назад +38

    Sending French nuggets way harder then they were designed for has been my entire driving life in the UK! Glad to see Australia isn't missing out on the fun

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад

      Biggest problem is the Peugeot parts cost the same as BMW/Mercedes in Australia !

    • @NickArthfael
      @NickArthfael Год назад +6

      ​@@edwardfletcher7790 yeah, meanwhile in Europe parts and maintenance for em is cheap as

    • @autobootpiloot
      @autobootpiloot Год назад +3

      @@edwardfletcher7790 here we are in Europe, where 206 parts cost about a tenth of parts for a Subaru legacy.
      A 206 needs a bit more parts though. But it’s probably the cheapest way to go around here if you can fix the small things yourself.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад

      @@autobootpiloot Subaru parts are always expensive unfortunately. They don't make enough cars to bring large volume discounts from parts suppliers like Toyota can.

  • @jokeychan7526
    @jokeychan7526 Год назад +1

    can't wait for the next episode, if you've ever driven a SSS you know that feeling of going into a corner at 'full speed' knowing you'll make that overtake.

  • @GamingPerks
    @GamingPerks Год назад +15

    I love this! As a swift owner I know exactly how the drive feels and its usually the most fun when the car you're battling it out with is around the same performance.

  • @joshc4136
    @joshc4136 Год назад +1

    I'm usually interested in track test segments of videos for about a lap and then I'm over it. Not this time though! It was so fun to see how much fun they were having. You could really tell they enjoyed being out there just thrashing those cars. Well done mates!

  • @HunterSydenhamRacing
    @HunterSydenhamRacing Год назад +190

    206 will be victorious. I’m not crazy everyone else is.

    • @stuctr
      @stuctr Год назад +15

      If he had bought the 2.0 gti version maybe

    • @HunterSydenhamRacing
      @HunterSydenhamRacing Год назад +7

      @@stuctr walked away if he had a 180

    • @Vespastendert
      @Vespastendert Год назад +6

      Just sold an 180, called the RC where i live. It was such a cool car.

    • @HunterSydenhamRacing
      @HunterSydenhamRacing Год назад +2

      @@Vespastendert aw nice. Im rocking a gti as my daily, so much fun popping gears while cruising to work

    • @sinistersidtan
      @sinistersidtan Год назад +5

      If marty brought the Gti or 180 instead , those will blow the door away of that jdm overated hatch .
      Kinda dumb pitting against a swift sport with a xsi .

  • @Luke-mu1wn
    @Luke-mu1wn Год назад

    This is what car racing really should be about... Real cars being driven hard, none of the fake cars in the big races now that have nothing to do with their production counterparts. Well done guys, looked like you had a ball!

  • @Mgroves1
    @Mgroves1 Год назад +7

    This is by far my favourite battle you guys have ever done, its so even and you guys seem like you're having so much fun battling so close

  • @kore996
    @kore996 Год назад +5

    I really enjoyed the genuine experience of fun that you both had on the track. 😃

  • @drewdogz746
    @drewdogz746 Год назад +6

    I think we can safely conclude that it doesn't matter what cars you are driving, racing your best mate in evenly matched cars with a splash of banter will always be a blast.

  • @scudy4
    @scudy4 Год назад +1

    I think you'll be surprised how good the 206 will be. They are mega light and once stripped out you can get them sub 900kg easy and that's a solid engine in it. So light in the back you just drive them like an old Mini, steer it on the throttle and just drag the back round with you. I used to have a Saxo which was the same chassis and they are brilliant fun.

  • @tiagobelo4965
    @tiagobelo4965 Год назад +13

    Can't wait to see what comes of this, both cars are great, and look like immense fun! BTW, the rear end coming out on hard corners is (or was) Peugeot/Citroën hot hatch tradition, the 205 ,106, AX and saxo were known for having quite loose rear ends that could get sketchy at higher speeds, especially in less capable hands (also, if there is ever to be a follow up to what is looking like an absolutely amazing series, you guys should try to go a size smaller! When you get down to those sub 800kg "as standard" euro nugs you find a whole new realm of madness)

    • @JustMDan
      @JustMDan Год назад +3

      As the owner of a saxo +- 900kilo with fluids I can relate, they are so much fun. Don't have much trouble with the back end then again never tracked it and have wider tires

    • @StanleyKubick1
      @StanleyKubick1 Год назад +1

      aygo's, 107's and c1's are great fun on a track

  • @MrEntricity
    @MrEntricity Год назад

    I had a 2006 Swift Sport as a daily, probably the most fun I've had driving a nugget. It came with front and rear sway bars + I added coilovers and RE003 tyres. The car handled like it was glued to the road and really could take a beating, lol!

  • @jamiesutherland3874
    @jamiesutherland3874 Год назад +14

    I have never seen Marty drive so hard and seem so happy. ❤

  • @anonrexic
    @anonrexic Год назад +2

    I actually cant wait for the mods in this series and the results of the mods, that was so fun to watch

  • @DAMUSTOO
    @DAMUSTOO Год назад +13

    As a longtime owner of a 206 RC, I don't understand what you're complaining about 206.

    • @rambo6375
      @rambo6375 Год назад +2

      Imagin driving a sponge while turning and changing gears with a string

  • @Bonguletz
    @Bonguletz Год назад

    As a 13 year swift owner, the only way to considerably improve the understeer situation in a swift is a 2.5 to 3 degree negative camber in the rear, either with camber shims like you can buy from ctc performance or a home made mix and match of washers. If you don’t know what you’re doing, just buy the shims

  • @zakswindle
    @zakswindle Год назад +33

    There’s nothing quite like getting off of work and getting a new MCM video

    • @The_VanTM
      @The_VanTM Год назад

      Who needs sleep as well when there's a new MCM video, honestly? 😂

  • @harveykharris
    @harveykharris Год назад +1

    Considering the Suzuki is the "Sport" and the 206 is the standard shopping car I think it done really well. Had it been the GTI then there would have been no comparison.

  • @skynet1.044
    @skynet1.044 Год назад +18

    I think we’re gonna have another 2SEXY moment with Martin falling in love with his peugbro, he’s gonna want to turn into a build, and I cannot wait! 😎

  • @Michael-cr4xd
    @Michael-cr4xd Год назад

    Honestly this is the MCM content I love best. Slow cars are by far the most fun on track below crazy fast race cars.

  • @LimitedGunnerGM
    @LimitedGunnerGM Год назад +7

    Derek from ViceGripGarage once said it’s way more fun to try to drive slow cars fast… you two proved him right with this one!

    • @musguelha14
      @musguelha14 Год назад +1

      And he was the first person to say it

    • @SerenaBluee
      @SerenaBluee Год назад +2

      People have been saying this for decades.

    • @nekoroms
      @nekoroms Год назад

      captain slow also said that and nobody believed at that time :)

  • @ylooxsignalsfromaforsakenworld

    I own a 206 1.4 HDI with 250k km on it and I never had an issue. The car is super fun, you can push it to redline every single time and trash it like it's nothing. 28km/l (65mpg for 'murica) if driven a bit more conservatly. And a way too soft suspension setup that gives you no grip whatsoever so that if you go a bit faster the back always comes out. Such a fun car

  • @georgeoliver8300
    @georgeoliver8300 Год назад +57

    I complained about you not getting a 206 gti and getting a bottom of the range one but after seeing this a gti would wipe the floor with that swift. That’s the fastest swift and that’s not even the 3rd fastest version of the 206

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Год назад +10

      The GTi has a 2.0L engine making a supossed ~180bhp, in which universe would it be suprising that it's faster than a simillary sized 1.6L car making 123bhp? In other news the Renault Clio 182 is faster than a 1.0L Toyota Yaris.

    • @lol4224
      @lol4224 Год назад +3

      and a golf gti would wipe the floor with that poor 206 gti lmao

    • @Cydro12
      @Cydro12 Год назад +16

      ​@@lol4224 the golf 4 is of the same era as that 206, it would so NOT wipe the floor with it.

    • @georgeoliver8300
      @georgeoliver8300 Год назад +15

      @@lol4224 the golf gti of that era had less power than the 206 gti 180 and weighed a lot more… so no. No it wouldn’t

    • @georgeoliver8300
      @georgeoliver8300 Год назад +1

      @@ferrumignis just saying I thought the swift “sport” would be faster than that

  • @IOUaUsername
    @IOUaUsername Год назад

    The rear end of the 206 is coming out because it has passive rear steering. If you get the rear axle from a GTi 180 (not the GTi 138hp), it has extra bars that remove that "feature".

  • @depressiospaghettio3521
    @depressiospaghettio3521 Год назад +42

    i really hope you make the 206 maaaad. maybe an ITB build rather than a turbo?

    • @musewolfman
      @musewolfman Год назад +2

      That would sound maaaad! And on a tight track like this one, it would probably do quite well.

    • @nizzan91
      @nizzan91 Год назад +8

      +1 for the ITB build, those french NA engines sound mad when they are allowed to breathe

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Год назад

      @@nizzan91 So does the Swift engine.

    • @hughparris2073
      @hughparris2073 Год назад +1

      Agreed - the gearbox on the 206 wouldn't last long with a turbo. It was designed to cope with small capacity NA SOHC engines - the torque of a turbo will snap it like it's a carrot! There is a factory gearbox upgrade available, but probably impossible to find in Australia (and needs some other expensive mods to make it work).

  • @WastedPenguinX
    @WastedPenguinX Год назад

    This video takes me back. My first car was a 206 and say what you want but that car was so much fun for me. I got rid of it and replaced it with a 206RC that's still in my garage as my second car.

  • @vtecmossy
    @vtecmossy Год назад +20

    I can smell the head gasket and flat spotted tyres from here 🤣

  • @LunaWuna
    @LunaWuna Год назад +1

    I actually have the 1.4 turbo version of the swift sport and you can really throw it around due to it being a lot ligher than the older 1.6 NA model and extremely torquey at the low end

  • @LucoreAuto
    @LucoreAuto Год назад +13

    Freaking love you guys! You really made this Automotive RUclips thing what it is today and we would all be poorer without you. Thank you SO much for doing content like this and inspiring all us little channels! Life goals guys, life goals!
    Edit : "You should be heel and toeing" ;)

  • @lordgoofus2364
    @lordgoofus2364 Год назад

    Who says you need an expensive sports car to have a blast? That battle had me grinning from ear to ear the entire time. So much more fun driving a slow car at it's absolute limits. The smoke! The squeeling tires! The random moments of understeer and oversteer. The multiple near misses. Utter chaos. And we loved every second of it.

  • @ValdeSanus
    @ValdeSanus Год назад +3

    So not true about French cars, issues and parts. I've done hundreds of laps in 40 degree heat in a Renault Clio Sport from 2001, with 200,000kms on it with zero issues. Cheapest, most reliable track car I've ever had. Parts are cheap from the UK and very easy to get.

  • @circuscannon6381
    @circuscannon6381 Год назад +1

    This has to be the best track video they've done, looked like a blast out on the track and without spending much money

  • @bigchief2331
    @bigchief2331 Год назад +8

    Never trust a mechanic who says French cars are rubbish. They're actually very good. Find a competent mechanic with skills, tools and appreciation for these cars and they cost no more than any other brand to maintain. Also, DIY what you can. I love French cars and will continue buying them. Full of character and great to drive.

    • @DashCamSerbia
      @DashCamSerbia Год назад +2

      Usually when mechanic is recommending you a certain car, what he means is he is recommending a car that he will make a lot of money on from all the future work on it.

    • @vibes6717
      @vibes6717 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DashCamSerbia literally not true considering how reliable the swift is

    • @ChevTheMechanic
      @ChevTheMechanic Месяц назад

      Skills, tools, and appreciation are jack shit when you cannot get parts and the engineering is shit.. 😂😂😂 Never trust a person questioning a mechanic that does mechanic work everyday... because as a mechanic, I would always go for the easier to work on and parts galore over the other..

    • @bigchief2331
      @bigchief2331 Месяц назад

      @@ChevTheMechanic Parts for Peugeot are readily available these days. Engineering is excellent.

  • @pixy1up
    @pixy1up Год назад

    I got a 206 Quicksilver and never ever had any technical problems with it. It was faster than my Mitsubishi Lancer 1,8L . Miss this little Nugget so much.

  • @MatsGarage
    @MatsGarage Год назад +3

    I hope you will run similar tires on both cars thru all the upgrades to keep that part equal.

  • @Szymon_Uliasz
    @Szymon_Uliasz Год назад +1

    Weve had a 206 with the same engine and over 6 years nothing has broken other than a worn wheel bearing

  • @antontaylor4530
    @antontaylor4530 Год назад +4

    Delighted to see how close the french nugget got to the swift.
    Makes me feel like the post-build battle will be awesome!

  • @matt_hayward
    @matt_hayward Год назад +1

    I didn't believe it until I experienced it. But pugs with some mods love to lift off oversteer. I went for a ride in a 306 gti6 (? There are maybe a handful of them in Australia literally) but I instantly loved the mity pug after that. Such a capable platform

  • @RyanCox14
    @RyanCox14 Год назад +5

    That really was the best and most laughed at episode of MCM I've ever watched! As a Peugeot owner here in Ireland I very tempted to get a 206 to just take to the track for the same reasons as the two of you, for the Shits and Giggles 🤣

  • @ertebelj
    @ertebelj Год назад +1

    The 206 has sway bars inside the rear subframe, that Can be upraded If needed. I’d do that on mine as a track car!

    • @ertebelj
      @ertebelj Год назад

      I Also recommend a fully 2” exhaust for it for optimal flow! Gave mine like 10-14 hp. A cup intake Also give it more of a kick Down low

  • @wolverinejh79
    @wolverinejh79 Год назад +11

    I can't wait for you to find the BSI unit that Peugeot uses instead of an ecu 😂

    • @Suixak
      @Suixak Год назад +1

      the dear BSI and BSM, the internal contacts break down continuously, and many of them do not have a spare part at the factory,,,,, (you have to look for an astute electronic to repair them).🎉

    • @NickArthfael
      @NickArthfael Год назад +3

      They have an ECU, the BSI controls some of the auxiliary electronics, the engine can still run without a BSI with a custom ECU just fine.

    • @timothywild9670
      @timothywild9670 Год назад +1

      I read BS unit at first

    • @Suixak
      @Suixak Год назад +2

      Correct BSI controls accessories, but also the gasoline pump, (which is what breaks down the most in the BSI, as it carries more tension). Here in the EU there is a lot of second-hand market, since it is not found new.

  • @merandpitslifeadventure4581
    @merandpitslifeadventure4581 Год назад

    I have a Peugeot 308 cc 2lt turbo diesel had it for 4 years done 40,000 kms in it and one of the best cars I have ever owned.

  • @HighlandViking78
    @HighlandViking78 Год назад +8

    Said it in the first video, I can't wait to see how Marty tackles lowering the rear beam axle on the peugbro 😂 absolute nightmare.

    • @GTSW1FT
      @GTSW1FT Год назад

      Im pretty sure the swift has the rear suspension design. Cause I know the gen after this one does

    • @HighlandViking78
      @HighlandViking78 Год назад +1

      @@GTSW1FT definitely got springs on the back of the suzuki, I have fitted a few to that model.

    • @hughparris2073
      @hughparris2073 Год назад

      Down here in the antipodes where the roads aren't salted the beams usually come apart without too much drama.

  • @AdamsWorlds
    @AdamsWorlds Год назад

    Had a bunch of French cars
    106 GTI
    205 1.9 GTI with a 1.6 gearbox
    205 1.6 GTI Standard
    205 GTI with MI16 engine
    206 GTI
    306 GTI
    306 Dturbo
    All felt like stirring porridge when you touched the gearstick. The 306 Dturbo was good fun just turn up fuel pump and open wastegate and it felt like a socket but kicked a ton of smoke. The 205 mi16 was very quick but front heavy due to cast iron bottom end. The 205 1.9 with a 1.6 spot felt awesome and hands down one of the most fun cars i have driven. The 306 GTI had the turning circle of a boat, the 206 gti felt heavy and horrid. This said my mates standard Fiesta ST and other mates more modern golf gti would probably have chopped every one of these cars around a track. 205's though seriously awesome cars, but these days cost so much its not justifiable you can have just as much fun in an old mini. They feel allot like a mini funny enough they feel tight and small, lift off oversteer, feel so rapid like your doing 100mph but your in reality doing like 30. Good cars at giving you that false sense of properly going for it. The 106 GTI also comes close but the 205 takes it over the 106 for me, and at a similar price i would take the 205 any day, lovely cars though. Oh 1 more thing about the French cars the rear beams always go bad on them they have a torsion bar setup.

  • @karlnielsen5759
    @karlnielsen5759 Год назад +5

    Considering Marty spent less than half of what Moog did on his car, and how well Marty's 206 was keeping up at the track, I think Marty got the better base car deal here.

    • @daktari
      @daktari Год назад +1

      The 1.6L 206 also is a base spec road model. The sport version has a 2L (S16/XSi/GTi).

  • @NiPPonD3nZ0
    @NiPPonD3nZ0 Год назад +2

    I'm Portuguese, and Peugeot 206 are very common here, and the complaints you mechanic put on the Peugeot, we complaint about Suzuki. That peugeot engine can be built to be over 200HP on N/A form... It's expensive but doable... The Peugeot/Citroen are not unreliable, not any more than any other low cost car... Keep oil changes on about every 10k KM and it will take you around the world! And the chassis on that 206, with the right suspension and tires, will wipe the floor with that Suzuki!

  • @nizzan91
    @nizzan91 Год назад +5

    I really hope Marty is going to go completely nuts on modifying the Peugeot. I'm thinking adjustable suspension, tires, ITB build or engine swap, maybe both. Make this new 2Sexy build, only more scuffed.

  • @CraigOverend
    @CraigOverend Год назад

    My father had a Peugbro 203, worm drive diff, lever arm suspension. The 203 won the first Redex trial. Take them on a reliability trial around Aus. :)

  • @Crychavoc
    @Crychavoc Год назад +6

    That Swift is going to get swiftly chopped so hard once the 206 is in track mode 😂

  • @MrPiikkipallo
    @MrPiikkipallo Год назад

    I remember my first car, a 1989 Honda civic hatchback. Made a whopping 90hp and completely in stock shape, it was so much fun to drive on the track. Sadly, I was just having so much fun, did like 10-12 hot laps and as a result the engine overheated and seized. So cooling performance is one thing that holds back, but apart from that you don't need a lot of performance to have fun on a track, a good performance value in my mind is ~10kg/hp, not fast but not slow either.

  • @jackchalkley
    @jackchalkley Год назад +7

    Marty needs a Renaultsport Clio 1*2. Seriously good French nugget.

  • @andrewgillougley8479
    @andrewgillougley8479 Год назад +1

    This is brilliant to watch, the MCM of old. Keep it up lads, loving this series so far.

  • @dixie9700
    @dixie9700 Год назад +7

    This is why you go for an Italian hatch back you get the speed of the swift but the reliability of the 206 😂

    • @popahontas
      @popahontas Год назад +2

      I hope to see italian sh*boxes in future seasons 😂

    • @JK061996
      @JK061996 Год назад

      A Fiat or Alfa Romeo would be interesting to see on the channel

    • @dixie9700
      @dixie9700 Год назад +1

      @@JK061996 that’s if there not to expensive in Australia I know the prices are going up in Europe

  • @papa-harinezumi5956
    @papa-harinezumi5956 Год назад

    Brings me back to owning a Peugeot 205 with 75hp, mad little car, and also had 2 405's with around 90hp, just awesome cars old Peugeot's

  • @TDPEquinox
    @TDPEquinox Год назад +4

    I want to see what those tires look like after that punishment hahaha

  • @automotiverhapsody
    @automotiverhapsody Год назад +1

    Gotta freeze & hammer any sound deadening in that French quiet bucket for weight loss further-ing

  • @marcelwk
    @marcelwk Год назад +5

    Having owned three 106s, a 206 SW and currently owning a 308 gti, I am totally objective when I say the Swift is 1000 times better😂

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Год назад

      Totally agree. Now if it was a 205 or 306 Gti it might be a different story, but I'd still bet on the Swift to hold itself together for far longer. I had an AX GTi for a while and the interior was like a clown car, stuff falling off in your hand all the time. Fun little car though.

  • @Jacksonhabib1000
    @Jacksonhabib1000 Год назад

    I daily my 3 door Swift Sport and have owned it since new. The best upgrade I made was ditching the recommended Eagle F1 tyres and switching to a set of Yokohamas. The understeer disappeared.
    It's great as a daily. You can thrash it everywhere and have fun without the fear you get from more powerful cars, i.e. you don't have to do highly illegal speeds to have fun.

  • @iainfreeman4751
    @iainfreeman4751 Год назад +3

    It depends were you live in brit bits are cheap and there everywhere.The Suzuki is Japanese bit are dear and there not as popular.

  • @ethancoe2744
    @ethancoe2744 Год назад

    I've got the swift base model and the best and cheapest modifications to make the car 10x better is some bucket seats, coilovers, tyres and cold air intake. the cheapest and easiest modifications to do.