If you haven't tried it yet, running a double or triple legendary mod. Colombo division is a riot. We've been calling it the Colombros Squad, just standard BB commander build with Sansonetti. Usually start off in a line going one direction and we each smoke each other up. It either goes REALLY well, or HORRIBLY wrong (usually this because we're drunk and dumb), but it's always a laugh lol.
Full secondary Shiki in ranked game. Near full HP Shimakaze came burning around around an island at around 5k distance showing a nice broadside profile. Melted him for 20k damage in less than 10 seconds. No main battery involved. Wish I'd taken a video of that.....
Only suggestion for the “long reload” for a secondary build BB: Use the main battery reload skill 4pt (instead of health +3 and repair +1). This significantly increases your reload when in secondary range, and with secondary ranges buffed by the other skills and modules it makes ships like Yammy and Vermont almost French BB base level reloads. Not serious competitive builds but my preferred secondary meme for sure. Nothing more fun than popping up close from behind an island in a yammy or Vermont and getting off two salvos with secondary guns blazing. Especially when they think you’re on the back line still sniping…
Shiki has standard battle VERTICAL dispersion unlike the rest of the standard IJN BBs and BCs. Her Horizontal spread does follow the standard Japanese curve getting better compared to the rest the father you shoot all be it, with lower horizontal spread than her peers
personally I find that shikishima performs better than yamato. something about the fact that shiki actually has AA and reloads faster makes it easier to play in randoms as a AP spammer on basically any target that crosses my guns. and in clans I've had pretty good success with a hybrid secondary build
Shiki is the top of my secret IJN secondary BB line. Mikasa, Mutsu, Nagato, Kii, Iwami, Shikishima. All have good main guns for range and decent secondary.
I remember (before the secondaries were nerved) Yamato had 10.6km secondaries and basically had a Atlanta strapped to each side. If you would push and a DD thought it could jump you for a torp run, it would melt on the spot. It was awesome being able to spec ships differently and use them ion a different role without degrading their effectiveness. Those were fun time in WG. AA specking your Montana and provide a cloud of safety for 2-3 ships, shredding every plane that comes close. You got great team play too between strangers offering them the umbrella, working together.
In high tier operations, secondary Shiki is the unstoppable destroyer of worlds lol. That 47% torpedo damage reduction is so nice and the bots aim center mass so she’s very tanky as well.
this ship is a brawler, it has great armor and a gun that can penetrate the big boys at most angles, especially up close. it will still be out secondaried by a German BB, but that's ok, cause the main battery will literally knock out their main battery, giving you the edge.
I find Yamato favors the historical immunity-zone kind of play which doesn't work as well in WOWS - you take the least damage sitting almost flat broadside but far enough away that shells shatter on your citadel belt.
I run a hybrid on Shikishima. The last slot is instead just reload mod instead of secondary reload mod. The 30mm of pen base is fine and shreds cruisers and DD’s and most BB’s. Fun fact the base accuracy of Shikishima is the same as legendary Yamato. So not running accuracy mod in the 3rd slot isn’t much of a loss. The only real issue is just the shell volume makes it seem less accurate. I recommend it if you want something a little different than a Yamato. I think it’s fun and I do well in it
@@gesalbte off the top of my head, preventative maintenance, turret rotation, priority target, both secondary skills, concealment. And then from there you can do one of two builds. Drop fire prevention for basics of survivability and IFHE or take fire prevention and priority target. Priority target is a fluid pic but turret rotation is a priority pick for Shikishima. Even with Yamamoto it’s still around 72 second turret rotation. IFHE isn’t needed for shiki since the 30mm of pen is fine for shredding cruisers and DDs, but if you want to shred most BBs in the game then you take IFHE. I’ve found not take fire prevention with both repair mods and basics of survivability and with flags you only burn for around 35-40 seconds, and Shiki/Yamto is usually 2nd or back line so the times you do burn is usually in some brawling scenarios and even then it’s not for too long. So you’re unlikely to die from it
I run 2ndary builds on most of my BB's, not all of them but most of them. With BB's that have 2ndaries with decent base range (6-8 km) on certain BB's you can push 2ndaries out to 11+ kms.
I used to run secondary build on the original Tirpitz secondaries lol. It was rarely good, but when it worked, it was fun. Now that Bismarck line is out, Tirpitz has better secondaries to match
Buddy , you are wasting potential of your ships ! , secondaries 100% for german line , (oddies like Ohio & Massa) and new pan American , rest will benefit more from classic build.
@@Huzarionix Totally agree about the German BB's. With a few exceptions, the mains on German BB's are terrible at any thing less than almost point blank range. However, the 2ndaries on most of them of them are pretty good. I know there *has* to be German BB's with decent mains, but don't ask me about them, because I don't know which ones they are. 😋 I mostly play co-op because I play WoW for fun, randoms only rarely, just to see how well I do from time to time. Note to people who play co-op and want to go play randoms: You have to unlearn a LOT of what you know, the difficulty curve on Randoms is totally different!
@@Micharus I have almost 16 k battles in random (majority T9), & 11k battles in co op , I play co op often as is easy way to do quickly tasks for missions , and there is no stress there , and that is great after ranked , if you want to have some fun , play T1 , is super ez to get achievements there as majority of teams are bots . o7
Looks like that secondary Shiki works well in Airship Escort, but you need °°s of steel to do this in Random. In a more standard approach; would you prefere Shiki or Incomparable?
Shiki has standard battleship VERTICAL dispersion unlike the rest of the standard IJN BBs and BCs. Her Horizontal spread does follow the standard Japanese curve getting better compared to the rest the father you shoot all be it, with lower horizontal spread than her peers
I've been running this build since the day (before the secondary rework, it was twice as more effective) I obtained the ship despite everyone else's disapproval, haha.
Yes back in the day where both Iowa and Monty have a Citadel way higher than Yamato which back then it was a nightmare to operates. Because Yamato can just Citadel Max Range you to death in a single salvo. Oh how high Iowa citadel back then? Oh IDK 80% of the ship hull just made out of citadels.
I had secondary build for like 1 year on Yamamoto my main commander on Musashi , Yamato & Shikishima , so I had secondary mod installed on every ship , 10km secondaries scared destroyers , I got some secondary kills , but my dmg was not good , and after that year when I have changed to classic build commander + ASM1 , one of first battles on mysashi I have made 330.360 dmg my dmg record , so secondaries on Shikishima or her sister ships is not good option .
not sure this was full secondary build, full secondary build has a longer range on shiki... full secondary is a lot of fun on this ship (with ifhe) - was just missing the flag i think
Hot take but have you tried taking a secondary build Wichita in operations? It's essentially a Benson attached to your cruiser, overlooked but it's actually really fun, plus they're rather accurate too
4:50 sc.turret's firing angle not great Brah..... Shikishima need 23 degree to firing all small caliber schlieffen need 31 libertard need 28 if wanna use all large caliber sc. (better hitting DPM. then thier small caliber)
I do enjoy your vids - however 1 minor complaint - you complain about not being able to punish broadsides consistently while simultaneously not aiming correctly. The Zao at 6:16 was not sailing perpendicular to you but rather slightly turned in, meaning your aim was too high - hence the overpens rather than cits. I have seen this in your videos before too. I'm not a WOWS expert by any means, but yeah - the lack of consistency can be explained!
"Insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results" - PQ while playing secondary builds
If you haven't tried it yet, running a double or triple legendary mod. Colombo division is a riot. We've been calling it the Colombros Squad, just standard BB commander build with Sansonetti. Usually start off in a line going one direction and we each smoke each other up. It either goes REALLY well, or HORRIBLY wrong (usually this because we're drunk and dumb), but it's always a laugh lol.
Love those God-tier gun sounds! And two Shikishimas together? Freaking ear candy!!!
No way, PQ and Malta, my two favourites
Would love the two with Flolo but idk if that will ever happen
They were in o7 together in the hayday, so it makes sense. they still keep in touch
Warms my heart to see Maltese potatoes combining forces, producing quality content at night.
Full secondary Shiki in ranked game. Near full HP Shimakaze came burning around around an island at around 5k distance showing a nice broadside profile. Melted him for 20k damage in less than 10 seconds. No main battery involved. Wish I'd taken a video of that.....
Only suggestion for the “long reload” for a secondary build BB: Use the main battery reload skill 4pt (instead of health +3 and repair +1). This significantly increases your reload when in secondary range, and with secondary ranges buffed by the other skills and modules it makes ships like Yammy and Vermont almost French BB base level reloads.
Not serious competitive builds but my preferred secondary meme for sure. Nothing more fun than popping up close from behind an island in a yammy or Vermont and getting off two salvos with secondary guns blazing. Especially when they think you’re on the back line still sniping…
Shiki has standard battle VERTICAL dispersion unlike the rest of the standard IJN BBs and BCs. Her Horizontal spread does follow the standard Japanese curve getting better compared to the rest the father you shoot all be it, with lower horizontal spread than her peers
personally I find that shikishima performs better than yamato. something about the fact that shiki actually has AA and reloads faster makes it easier to play in randoms as a AP spammer on basically any target that crosses my guns. and in clans I've had pretty good success with a hybrid secondary build
Shiki is the top of my secret IJN secondary BB line. Mikasa, Mutsu, Nagato, Kii, Iwami, Shikishima. All have good main guns for range and decent secondary.
Hyuga also has hard-hitting secondaries for the Tier VII.
I remember (before the secondaries were nerved) Yamato had 10.6km secondaries and basically had a Atlanta strapped to each side. If you would push and a DD thought it could jump you for a torp run, it would melt on the spot.
It was awesome being able to spec ships differently and use them ion a different role without degrading their effectiveness. Those were fun time in WG.
AA specking your Montana and provide a cloud of safety for 2-3 ships, shredding every plane that comes close. You got great team play too between strangers offering them the umbrella, working together.
Shikishima? Secondaries?? WORKED??? Oh boy, i'm gonna enjoy this one.
What a crazy ship, we got to walk for free! hahaha Hey PQ, your thoughts on Shikishima vs Libertad Secondary Build?
Thanks for the shoutouts brother!
In high tier operations, secondary Shiki is the unstoppable destroyer of worlds lol. That 47% torpedo damage reduction is so nice and the bots aim center mass so she’s very tanky as well.
this ship is a brawler, it has great armor and a gun that can penetrate the big boys at most angles, especially up close. it will still be out secondaried by a German BB, but that's ok, cause the main battery will literally knock out their main battery, giving you the edge.
I find Yamato favors the historical immunity-zone kind of play which doesn't work as well in WOWS - you take the least damage sitting almost flat broadside but far enough away that shells shatter on your citadel belt.
I run a hybrid on Shikishima. The last slot is instead just reload mod instead of secondary reload mod. The 30mm of pen base is fine and shreds cruisers and DD’s and most BB’s. Fun fact the base accuracy of Shikishima is the same as legendary Yamato. So not running accuracy mod in the 3rd slot isn’t much of a loss. The only real issue is just the shell volume makes it seem less accurate. I recommend it if you want something a little different than a Yamato. I think it’s fun and I do well in it
Thank you! And may I ask that what captain skills are you running?
@@gesalbte off the top of my head, preventative maintenance, turret rotation, priority target, both secondary skills, concealment. And then from there you can do one of two builds. Drop fire prevention for basics of survivability and IFHE or take fire prevention and priority target. Priority target is a fluid pic but turret rotation is a priority pick for Shikishima. Even with Yamamoto it’s still around 72 second turret rotation. IFHE isn’t needed for shiki since the 30mm of pen is fine for shredding cruisers and DDs, but if you want to shred most BBs in the game then you take IFHE. I’ve found not take fire prevention with both repair mods and basics of survivability and with flags you only burn for around 35-40 seconds, and Shiki/Yamto is usually 2nd or back line so the times you do burn is usually in some brawling scenarios and even then it’s not for too long. So you’re unlikely to die from it
Do it on Ushakov. Bring forth the Smolensk secondary memes! (Ushakov uses Smolensk turrets as secondaries)
I run 2ndary builds on most of my BB's, not all of them but most of them. With BB's that have 2ndaries with decent base range (6-8 km) on certain BB's you can push 2ndaries out to 11+ kms.
I used to run secondary build on the original Tirpitz secondaries lol. It was rarely good, but when it worked, it was fun. Now that Bismarck line is out, Tirpitz has better secondaries to match
Buddy , you are wasting potential of your ships ! , secondaries 100% for german line , (oddies like Ohio & Massa) and new pan American , rest will benefit more from classic build.
@@Huzarionix Totally agree about the German BB's. With a few exceptions, the mains on German BB's are terrible at any thing less than almost point blank range. However, the 2ndaries on most of them of them are pretty good. I know there *has* to be German BB's with decent mains, but don't ask me about them, because I don't know which ones they are. 😋
I mostly play co-op because I play WoW for fun, randoms only rarely, just to see how well I do from time to time.
Note to people who play co-op and want to go play randoms: You have to unlearn a LOT of what you know, the difficulty curve on Randoms is totally different!
@@Micharus I have almost 16 k battles in random (majority T9), & 11k battles in co op , I play co op often as is easy way to do quickly tasks for missions , and there is no stress there , and that is great after ranked , if you want to have some fun , play T1 , is super ez to get achievements there as majority of teams are bots . o7
@@Huzarionixi‘d say preußen is actually better with a gun build the reload and the overmatch is kinda usefull and well brawling is kinda impossible
I tried a full secondary build on my Azuma today, so I am pretty sure your Game with the Shikishima works better ! Greetz
nice, a PQ vid to go with my breakfast
GG!. Thank YOU!. take care.
Looks like that secondary Shiki works well in Airship Escort, but you need °°s of steel to do this in Random.
In a more standard approach; would you prefere Shiki or Incomparable?
Shiki has standard battleship VERTICAL dispersion unlike the rest of the standard IJN BBs and BCs. Her Horizontal spread does follow the standard Japanese curve getting better compared to the rest the father you shoot all be it, with lower horizontal spread than her peers
I've been running this build since the day (before the secondary rework, it was twice as more effective) I obtained the ship despite everyone else's disapproval, haha.
TBH I run a hybrid secondary build on Shiki. I love it.
This is how i have my Shiky equipped, she is perfect.
Shikashima secondary build is one of my favorite most played ships
Yeah it worked I use it especially in operation
Yes back in the day where both Iowa and Monty have a Citadel way higher than Yamato which back then it was a nightmare to operates. Because Yamato can just Citadel Max Range you to death in a single salvo.
Oh how high Iowa citadel back then? Oh IDK 80% of the ship hull just made out of citadels.
Full Secondary BUNGO!
Man i didnt even knew that shikishima is like the iwami's bigger and fat brother
Time to show the Musashi Bro !!
Of course it will work and do good damage. But how much will you want to go into close combat with Shikishima's "fantastic" cheek armor of citadel?
I had secondary build for like 1 year on Yamamoto my main commander on Musashi , Yamato & Shikishima , so I had secondary mod installed on every ship , 10km secondaries scared destroyers , I got some secondary kills , but my dmg was not good , and after that year when I have changed to classic build commander + ASM1 , one of first battles on mysashi I have made 330.360 dmg my dmg record , so secondaries on Shikishima or her sister ships is not good option .
Man, that poor guy.
We all know people only buy Shikishima for those fat booms.
Then just get Satsuma. I'd much rather lose credits playing Satsuma than waste steel to get Shiki... especially since Satsuma is just a better Shiki
I run the same build on my Shiki and have a blast, but I'm a 100% PVE player these days.
WOW, MaltaMan, big fan. Are you aware that he offers FREE Builds????!?!??!!??!!? what a guy
Dont expose the secret weapon!!! I love a secondary build Shikishima
Sounds like card gaming to mem kekw 0:28
not sure this was full secondary build, full secondary build has a longer range on shiki... full secondary is a lot of fun on this ship (with ifhe) - was just missing the flag i think
With IFHE its great
With captain Sean Connery
Ship request clobert in opartions
Hot take but have you tried taking a secondary build Wichita in operations? It's essentially a Benson attached to your cruiser, overlooked but it's actually really fun, plus they're rather accurate too
6 gun bbs should have deadeye
Good that there were no fun police and cockroaches
I aways play shiki like that :)
baZed
day 7 of asking pq for radar minotaur
35th time Ship request... Amagi with Full secondaries build pls
My clan mate has a 70% wr in full secondary shiki lol it’s not new
you NEED secondary flag for this or you can't call it a "Full Secondary" build cuz u miss one thing :)
Day 20 asking for a roon review
STOP LAUGHING.
4:50 sc.turret's firing angle not great
Brah.....
Shikishima need 23 degree to firing all small caliber
schlieffen need 31
libertard need 28 if wanna use all large caliber sc. (better hitting DPM. then thier small caliber)
I do enjoy your vids - however 1 minor complaint - you complain about not being able to punish broadsides consistently while simultaneously not aiming correctly. The Zao at 6:16 was not sailing perpendicular to you but rather slightly turned in, meaning your aim was too high - hence the overpens rather than cits. I have seen this in your videos before too.
I'm not a WOWS expert by any means, but yeah - the lack of consistency can be explained!
Please don't laugh. Ever.
Yamato need some rework it's never change always like that
I was following Malta for about a year but stopped because he screams for no reason. Great player but poor on presentation.
there too much over pens in game now game is shit now
🤢
Yamato, the most powerful BB ever and it is shit in this game....... just goes to show how good this game is.