One other obvious thing (although not "obvious" to me!): When I first assembled my new sander (SuperMax 16-32), I just couldn't wait to see it in action. I had a small project ready to go and, following all the instructions (except for one), I started to work. Within seconds of running my part, my shop was so full of face-powder-like-dust, I had to evacuate! Yes, I know, I know...Instructions say to not use this tool without dust collection. But hey, just one part, right? If you don't want a mess, and if you want to breathe, DO NOT USE THESE WITHOUT ADEQUATE DUST COLLECTION! NO EXCEPTIONS! After that first dumb move, I have used my drum sander frequently with excellent results. I agree with George that once you use it, you'll probably wonder how you ever went without one!
Just used a friends to rough sand some end grain cutting boards. It had a decent mount of glue and burn. We only used the 80 grit, but what I thought would be a 2 or 3 hour job involving pencil marks and so on was actually about 15 minutes on this. It’s a tough purchase for a regular, make stuff occasionally guy like me. But if I had to make 20-50 boards and my friend wasn’t home. Instant purchase. Swipe and look away.
Getting ready to buy a drum sander. SM or Jet. Was looking at the 16/32 models. I’m liking this 19/38 a lot. I wish the in and out feed tables Came with it.
Message for Rick Bennet - you messaged George ref conveyor belt slippage and you was referred to Rockler technical for sorting this problem out. Can you please explain what Rockler said on how to overcome this problem please. This seems to be a very common problem and it would be brilliant if George or Rockler or Supermax would do a video on how to resolve this problem in detail. Thanks for helping.
So George, explain that lever a little more. If you’re running a 32” panel through it, what exactly does and where does it raise the open end of the drum? you said a couple thousands I guess that point will overlap when you turn it around? Maybe pencil marks would work
Hello George..great video! I recently purchased a second hand Supermax 19-38 Drum Sander (nearly new) and am having a few issues. I set it up using the manual, but getting a lot of slippage between the feed belt and the wood. The conveyor belt seems pretty slippery. Is it possible to put something on the the belt to make it less slippery?
I bought a supermax just for my end grain cutting boards. I have a problem with burn marks, i keep the belt very clean. i have used 80 grit and 120 grit paper, any thoughts?
I ran a few hard maple end grains too deep and that’s when it causes burn. It was my first time and I sanded 20 cutting boards. After the first five boards I learned to be patient and not get greedy taking off too much.
NOT sure if this is the right tool for me. I have a cnc router and do mostly 3-d carvings. Typically my carvings tend to cup a little. My carvings also have a rope border around the perimeter. Now can i feed my carving through this type sander to remove the cupping effect from the back side.
surface sanders are one of those tools that are handy if you use them all the time, but are a waste of space if you use them sparsely. Many of the ol' timers/veteran cabinet makers will joke that if you need to use a surface sander, your time would be better spent learning how properly joint... lol
I have wood shop at my school the surface sander is different its big making a grandmother clock those are one of the choice I have lots to surface sand
Yes, I have a planer and can run band sawn thin stuff through there and have run glue up table tops at 24" with no problems. Maybe a smaller planer with 12" cannot handle end grain but the larger planer is fast and cleaner than a sander. Infact you would mess up the finish of a larger planer by sanding the surface. I run exotic hardwood through the planer with all kinds of tricky grain and no tear out. I would require three of these sanders you demo just to have a series of grits to avoid changing all the time. A planer just requires thickness adjusting to achieve a final digital thickness. Throwing the sander out of parallel and taking little increments of wood off with a drum sander or wide belt sander is time consuming and slow going. Some sanders will not sand exotic hardwoods or resin filled substrates: the belt is ruined in one pass no matter the grit. If you mill on a jointer and planer before assembly and do face frame construction accurately; sanding is avoided and you have planar surfaces to work with. Some larger wide belt sanders can handle end grain quickly and have special belts.
Well George, I love your video on the Supermax and just now pulled the trigger and ordered the Supermax 2550, extension tables and digital readout 😁
One other obvious thing (although not "obvious" to me!): When I first assembled my new sander (SuperMax 16-32), I just couldn't wait to see it in action. I had a small project ready to go and, following all the instructions (except for one), I started to work. Within seconds of running my part, my shop was so full of face-powder-like-dust, I had to evacuate! Yes, I know, I know...Instructions say to not use this tool without dust collection. But hey, just one part, right? If you don't want a mess, and if you want to breathe, DO NOT USE THESE WITHOUT ADEQUATE DUST COLLECTION! NO EXCEPTIONS! After that first dumb move, I have used my drum sander frequently with excellent results. I agree with George that once you use it, you'll probably wonder how you ever went without one!
Thanks for that tip. Probably would of done the same thing. Still happy with it?
Just used a friends to rough sand some end grain cutting boards. It had a decent mount of glue and burn. We only used the 80 grit, but what I thought would be a 2 or 3 hour job involving pencil marks and so on was actually about 15 minutes on this. It’s a tough purchase for a regular, make stuff occasionally guy like me. But if I had to make 20-50 boards and my friend wasn’t home. Instant purchase. Swipe and look away.
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Getting ready to buy a drum sander. SM or Jet. Was looking at the 16/32 models. I’m liking this 19/38 a lot. I wish the in and out feed tables Came with it.
What did you end up choosing?
Message for Rick Bennet - you messaged George ref conveyor belt slippage and you was referred to Rockler technical for sorting this problem out. Can you please explain what Rockler said on how to overcome this problem please. This seems to be a very common problem and it would be brilliant if George or Rockler or Supermax would do a video on how to resolve this problem in detail. Thanks for helping.
Hi Steve Chambers, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll be able to assist you. Thank you
So George, explain that lever a little more. If you’re running a 32” panel through it, what exactly does and where does it raise the open end of the drum? you said a couple thousands I guess that point will overlap when you turn it around? Maybe pencil marks would work
Hello George..great video! I recently purchased a second hand Supermax 19-38 Drum Sander (nearly new) and am having a few issues. I set it up using the manual, but getting a lot of slippage between the feed belt and the wood. The conveyor belt seems pretty slippery. Is it possible to put something on the the belt to make it less slippery?
Hi Rick Bennett, Please reach out to our product support team at 1-800-260-9663 or support@rockler.com. They'll may be able to assist you. Thank you
I bought a supermax just for my end grain cutting boards. I have a problem with burn marks, i keep the belt very clean. i have used 80 grit and 120 grit paper, any thoughts?
Perhaps several light, shallow, fast passes
I ran a few hard maple end grains too deep and that’s when it causes burn. It was my first time and I sanded 20 cutting boards. After the first five boards I learned to be patient and not get greedy taking off too much.
Shallow passes is the key. Once you burn a piece of sandpaper, you’ll need to put in a fresh one, or it will keep burning.
why the price of tools are not mentioned in videos?
Ok , you forgot something. What about epoxy tables, is it safe to run that stuff??
Hi Leonard, yes, you can sand epoxy with drum sanders. As always, effective dust collection is a good idea.
hello my name is samuel from ghana I want you to no how much this drum sander thank you
If you take the sander out of parallel won't that create a crown in the middle of your piece?
I'm thinking it will, but it will be unnoticeable.
NOT sure if this is the right tool for me. I have a cnc router and do mostly 3-d carvings. Typically my carvings tend to cup a little. My carvings also have a rope border around the perimeter. Now can i feed my carving through this type sander to remove the cupping effect from the back side.
Yes, it should work if there is a consistent thickness around the border, also if the material isn’t too thin as it may flex.
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I assume it’s made in America, if the Guild of America approuves it?
Could I use on metal?
lol.
surface sanders are one of those tools that are handy if you use them all the time, but are a waste of space if you use them sparsely.
Many of the ol' timers/veteran cabinet makers will joke that if you need to use a surface sander, your time would be better spent learning how properly joint... lol
I have wood shop at my school the surface sander is different its big making a grandmother clock those are one of the choice I have lots to surface sand
No way to run end grain through a planer? I beg to differ.
Yes, I have a planer and can run band sawn thin stuff through there and have run glue up table tops at 24" with no problems. Maybe a smaller planer with 12" cannot handle end grain but the larger planer is fast and cleaner than a sander. Infact you would mess up the finish of a larger planer by sanding the surface. I run exotic hardwood through the planer with all kinds of tricky grain and no tear out. I would require three of these sanders you demo just to have a series of grits to avoid changing all the time. A planer just requires thickness adjusting to
achieve a final digital thickness. Throwing the sander out of parallel and taking little increments of wood off with a drum sander or wide belt sander is time consuming and slow going. Some sanders will not sand exotic hardwoods or resin filled substrates: the belt is ruined in one pass no matter the grit. If you mill on a jointer and planer before assembly and do face frame construction accurately; sanding is avoided and you have planar surfaces to work with. Some larger wide belt sanders can handle end grain quickly and have special belts.
Had a Delta X5 drummer.... The table raised/ lowered instead of the drum head.... BAD design. More headaches than it was worth...