Favorite deadline ending? 00:00 Failed to defeat Zorba 02:33 Failed to catch the true culprit 04:37 Failed to infiltrate Louis's quarters 06:18 Failed to secure Drakodios 08:17 Failed to "end the kingdom's madness"
@@jun-jun57 *spoiler alert* this story takes place I future of our world where humans discovered magic so if they had to join the stories he would be a Reincarnation
Damn there is SO much fanfiction potential in the "failed to secure Drakodios" one. The party being picked off one by one, eventually leaving only Will and Gallica, having lost everything...? Oh my gosh.
Finished the game a couple of hours ago, so I decided to check out all the bad endings and failed deadline consequences out of curiosity... Holy shit, these are dark! The narration is so good, really adds to the 'you fucked up' vibes.
Not a failed deadline, but apparently there's also a bad ending for answering wrong in the sanctum. I didn't even realize I had gotten a bad ending until credits started rolling, cause Persona usually gives you an "are you sure" before you make choices that lead to a bad ending.
Drakodios ending is actually very sad for Gallica. She already helped him, give moral support, and also give a warning and yet she is still loyal to him until their death, all because of his laziness
spoiler i guess? fantasy is dead has another meaning. fantasy can also be described as a dream or dreamlike which can be described as ambition and romance. so when fantasy is dead, it means the dream died something that was hoped for is no longer possible. the other meaning is quite literal. as the dream version of the prince literally died. aka the mc. the prince`s shadow, soul, persona. that said. when the dream is no longer possible, mc would quite literally disappear. as the mc can longer be what he was supposed be and becomes nothing.
It's the first one you mentioned. If the protagonist joins Louis, the fantasy is "ruined" because the dreams of a world without inequality are "corrupted." If he accepts More's offer, the fantasy becomes "just fiction" because he gives up on them.
@@TuxDroid Spoiler After he becomes the prince only the first one applies, but before the second version applies as well. Since the mc is a dragon based on the princes wishes, once that wish no longer becomes possible, and his "fantasy" dies, so will the mc eventually fade away as well just like more did around the ending of the game since he had no body to return to due to Zorba destroying the kings body at the funeral, (on another note makes you wonder what would have happened if he didn't and more would have then revived the king as a younger version of himself)
@@jinxtheslugfromslugterra1760 I don't think it would have worked to same as the prince. During the descent down the stairs the voice told you. It's not too late. So I'll assume there is a time limit. The prince died in less than a day. More had died months ago. But the biggest factor is. Having a unique ID. Do understand that you don't become the prince. The prince became you. You the idea developed a soul and became his own person. And the prince joins you in your body. Hence the not so much change in personality.
Interesting that failing the Drakodios bit could spoil you on Zorba ahead of getting to the opera house. Not too strange to see a necromancer after "death" though.
Considering there is pretty much no one else that would fit the cloaked figure narrative, I'd expected it to be him, like who else is story relevant to be them
@@deanmalto Even so, he was pretty forgettable as the first act villain. Glodell was somehow more compelling, so it was pretty surprising to see Zorba survived.
@@Kingdom850 I guess mostly because zorba being a necromancer also heavily hints towards Louis ressurection, Glodell character was so forgettable his existence is to show players the extent of the king's magic and plot device for MC to get close to Louis and being Junah escort, We're also shown that Glodell arent loyal to louis and only in it to win the throne unlike zorba, a fanatic fanboy, so it wouldn't be sensible for him to still be working for louis after his confession if the story give glodell the necromancers power working as Louis spy
@@Kingdom850 tf are you on about, Zorba is easily one of the most compelling villains in the game while Glodell was nothing but a loser every second he was onscreen
At what point do your allies just decide to do it themselves without you? Game design aside, but every time in a SMT game that has deadlines your allies should just ignore your apathy and do it themselves, lol.
There’s a free game where one of your companions can run to finish a neglected mission but he’s… wounded as a result. … well now I kind of want to see an SMT game do that and have Spirit Hunter style endings (where it’s decided by what companions are still alive).
The 1st (the Rumbling) and 4th deadline events are great, the others are just "and then they died" Spoilers from here on Especially the last one, Louis himself said that in his new world your party has enough willpower to survive
The willpower that would've allowed your party to survive Louis's world is what drives their success in fighting against it. To be defeated or to accept Louis's offers is to fail to demonstrate that willpower. So a party that allows itself to fall into one of these bad endings is one that can't survive Louis's world. And given that our party (and pretty much everyone) draws on the people around them to support that willpower, in effect nobody can actually survive Louis's world. Not even Louis himself, who still clings onto the dream of finding someone truly strong to join him.
Not going to lie, the only two bad endings that were any good both involved Zorba. The others were pretty meh, as if they were afterthoughts. Still glad I got to see them. I never could bring myself to get the bad endings after the first one. A bit too much time investment for a small cutscene.
does anyone have the problem where you've done everything by the start of the last two deadline (the goes to the castle and the red storm thingy after that)?
One thing i couldn’t quite grasp was whether Louis was planning on turning EVERYONE into Humans? Or just weak people? He did mention that strong minded people would not turn, but i assume they’ll just get killed off by Humans instead So basically he wanted an utter annihilation of Euchrania?
Ending 1. We can take it. Wait, we lost? I don’t believe you. Ending 2. We got 2 more trails. We can still do this. Ending 3. Wait. Ugh. What? Ending 4. Okay. I accept this defeat. WOW, HOLD UP. I LOVE THIS ENDING! IT'S SO GOOD!!! Ending 5. The win goes to you, new king.
Ending 1 - Zorba explains that he didn't revive the human at full strength when you fight him. This is why he was waiting to unleash the day of calamity. Ending 2 - Trial 1 requires you finish in top 20. With no time to find another bounty, the party loses. Ending 3 - yeah this one is a bit confusing but following the time line of events, not infiltrating Charadrius means the protagonist never meets Junah, meaning she alone tries to steal the formula. She likely succeeds since Glodell only finds a problem with the protagonist leaving the soiree. From there, it's VERY hard to say what happens. Even if the events at Dragon Temple follow the same way, just without the party having Junah or followed by Magnus brothers, the key to solving Prince's curse specifically is knowing Renna is guilty, and without meeting protagonists, Rella isn't aware that the party is fighting to revive him. The Prince then dies, and because of the link, so does Rella.
Spoiler for the opera house shenanigans i liked that if you failed to rescue eupha, they dropped that zorba still alive and well lmao. good foreshadowing
@@tylerreeves658 those tariffs on foreign products are just going to make grocery prices even higher, and Trump is going to pocket the tariff money by having every gov meeting at mar a lago and charging secret service 8x the normal price. I sincerely hope that things work out for you and every other American but the future looks bleak
@@DMLooseyI swear you have selective amnesia and don't remember he was already President from 2016-2020, and quite literally every individual good and service in the entire country was much cheaper, and everything was fine in general. We know everything is more expensive. We went from an average annualized 1.8% inflation rate in Trump's 1st term to a 6.4% rate in the four years of Biden. Tariffs are a non-lethal form of negotiation, as opposed to things like continually escalating the largest war in Europe since WWII, and risking direct conflict with the world's largest nuclear power as opposed to seeking a diplomatic solution. But what do I know, I've just actually been in the military. I should listen to 21 year olds on the internet who conveniently already knows everything despite having zero life experience. I know Tik Tok says the sky is falling because your team lost, but a new party takes power every 2-8 years. We all survived each time. It has happened many, many times. Everything is going to be fine.
So the prince dies when the protagonist fails to do his mission in time it is a reason, but it seems a little forced.. Looking back at this game after finishing it.. I like the bonds, but the time management in general is just not my cup of tea, it got old towards the end of the game and I don't know if I would like another ReFantazio game to be like this. I know pretty much everyone loves it, but for me it just feels like the game confines you. Creates illusions of a sense of urgency that really doesn't matter because you could spend 1 hour in a dungeon or 6 hours grinding on red crystals. Faking MP shortage that you can gather veeeery sloooowly one by one.. and of course everybody clears the dungeons in one day, despite it not "really" being intended, but still working because the tools are there.. I loved the game and I was hyped for it since 2016, but I think I would have loved this game more if it had been more like Digital Devil Saga or something. (not linear in time for example)
The prince dies part does feel forced but it's more or less an obvious event should you fail as gallica constantly mentions he won't live long enough. Also late plot reasons why Metaphor is its new IP and not a spin-off and can experiment future Metaphor games without the calendar system as long as Archetypes are still the main point under the IP name over SMT's Demons, Perhaps Metaphor: Archetype Survivors or Metaphor: Archetype warriors or Metaphor Etrian Odyssey. This is the first game still so let's hope and see Metaphor will also experiment new gameplay styles or borrow what they know to expand how much they can be creative with the Archetypes
@@Imonyaki Yes! Freaking exactly! I figured the only comments I would get are angry persona fans, who don't like my opinion. Glad to see there are still people who just want fun games, and don't just want the same thing over and over again. (I mean the calender system can be fun, but it gets old at some point, at least for me ^^) I mean, Hashino made games like Digital Devil Saga, he produced that duology as much as he did Metaphor, so I hope that he maybe even goes back to that kind of style, still story driven, but not linear, but I guess we'll see what they'll do. ^^
@@umbral9911 Why are you baiting those types of people with that response? That's incredibly childish. "oh thank God, I didn't get angry persona fans in my comments!" Lol wtf dude
@@Kingdom850 I don't know, because that happens quite a bit ^^ But this is actually easily misunderstandable, I did not mean persona fans in general, I meant the more problematic and narrow minded side of the fandom. Hey, maybe I just didn't articulate it correctly, maybe if you saw what I saw you'd understand why I wrote it that way. Either way, I like Persona, I have nothing against the fandom itself and I didn't mean to offend anyone or anything like that ^^
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Favorite deadline ending?
00:00 Failed to defeat Zorba
02:33 Failed to catch the true culprit
04:37 Failed to infiltrate Louis's quarters
06:18 Failed to secure Drakodios
08:17 Failed to "end the kingdom's madness"
Imagine losing everything you've worked towards because you're a sleepy boy.
Actual based protagonist
Based because he is sleepy or has the willpower to not be sleepy?
“No I don’t want to save the entire country right now, I’m eepy” -John Metaphor
I like how Gallica just sounds royally pissed off at you every time. Which is understandable, really.
"I don't care, I'm tired"
Bro thinks he's Makoto 💀💀
Bro is his reincarnation
@@XpathTheChojiropreincarnation
@@jun-jun57
*spoiler alert*
this story takes place I future of our world where humans discovered magic so if they had to join the stories he would be a Reincarnation
Pretty impressive that they voiced these fail states
Damn there is SO much fanfiction potential in the "failed to secure Drakodios" one. The party being picked off one by one, eventually leaving only Will and Gallica, having lost everything...? Oh my gosh.
Finished the game a couple of hours ago, so I decided to check out all the bad endings and failed deadline consequences out of curiosity... Holy shit, these are dark! The narration is so good, really adds to the 'you fucked up' vibes.
"I don't care."
Blue hair
Twink
And we are supposed to believe this isnt Makoto Yuki being Isekaid to another world?
Bro litterally Turned into butterflies in his own game. There's a good chance you right
I heard this is alternative world so alternative Makoto
AND sleepy
The world is about to end.
Counterpoint: I'm tired
I don't care, I'm tired.
I missed the part where that's my problem
Yeah, but im tired of
Everyone died because dude just wanted to take a nap.
@@DBCOOPER888 legit "Don't care, do it yourselves"
What an amazing line 🤣
Not a failed deadline, but apparently there's also a bad ending for answering wrong in the sanctum. I didn't even realize I had gotten a bad ending until credits started rolling, cause Persona usually gives you an "are you sure" before you make choices that lead to a bad ending.
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I remember getting a bad ending in Persona 4 from jokingly selecting Nanako as the killer.
@@Killahurtz260Ok but it actually made some sense
I love how the first bad ending gives us a hint/tease on what Louis’ plans actually are, which is to turn people into humans.
Fantastic foreshadowing.
Drakodios ending is actually very sad for Gallica. She already helped him, give moral support, and also give a warning and yet she is still loyal to him until their death, all because of his laziness
spoiler i guess?
fantasy is dead has another meaning.
fantasy can also be described as a dream or dreamlike which can be described as ambition and romance. so when fantasy is dead, it means the dream died something that was hoped for is no longer possible.
the other meaning is quite literal. as the dream version of the prince literally died. aka the mc. the prince`s shadow, soul, persona.
that said. when the dream is no longer possible, mc would quite literally disappear. as the mc can longer be what he was supposed be and becomes nothing.
It's the first one you mentioned. If the protagonist joins Louis, the fantasy is "ruined" because the dreams of a world without inequality are "corrupted." If he accepts More's offer, the fantasy becomes "just fiction" because he gives up on them.
truly metaphor re fantazio
@@TuxDroid
Spoiler
After he becomes the prince only the first one applies, but before the second version applies as well.
Since the mc is a dragon based on the princes wishes, once that wish no longer becomes possible, and his "fantasy" dies, so will the mc eventually fade away as well just like more did around the ending of the game since he had no body to return to due to Zorba destroying the kings body at the funeral, (on another note makes you wonder what would have happened if he didn't and more would have then revived the king as a younger version of himself)
@@jinxtheslugfromslugterra1760 I don't think it would have worked to same as the prince. During the descent down the stairs the voice told you. It's not too late.
So I'll assume there is a time limit. The prince died in less than a day.
More had died months ago.
But the biggest factor is. Having a unique ID.
Do understand that you don't become the prince. The prince became you. You the idea developed a soul and became his own person. And the prince joins you in your body.
Hence the not so much change in personality.
Wdym Mc is the prince? Isn't the prince like comatosed
Interesting that failing the Drakodios bit could spoil you on Zorba ahead of getting to the opera house. Not too strange to see a necromancer after "death" though.
Considering there is pretty much no one else that would fit the cloaked figure narrative, I'd expected it to be him, like who else is story relevant to be them
@@deanmalto Even so, he was pretty forgettable as the first act villain. Glodell was somehow more compelling, so it was pretty surprising to see Zorba survived.
@@Kingdom850 I guess mostly because zorba being a necromancer also heavily hints towards Louis ressurection, Glodell character was so forgettable his existence is to show players the extent of the king's magic and plot device for MC to get close to Louis and being Junah escort, We're also shown that Glodell arent loyal to louis and only in it to win the throne unlike zorba, a fanatic fanboy, so it wouldn't be sensible for him to still be working for louis after his confession if the story give glodell the necromancers power working as Louis spy
If someone fucked around that much, they deserve to have the ending spoiled
@@Kingdom850 tf are you on about, Zorba is easily one of the most compelling villains in the game while Glodell was nothing but a loser every second he was onscreen
Damn, those last two are extremely dark. Sounds like even little Maria got the noose in that last one.
Exactly my thinking too
At what point do your allies just decide to do it themselves without you?
Game design aside, but every time in a SMT game that has deadlines your allies should just ignore your apathy and do it themselves, lol.
There’s a free game where one of your companions can run to finish a neglected mission but he’s… wounded as a result.
… well now I kind of want to see an SMT game do that and have Spirit Hunter style endings (where it’s decided by what companions are still alive).
Wow these are actually slightly more depressing than the midnight hour, tv world and palace inflatrations put togehter.
Tbo I like the first ending because the fact that it was the first deadline it truly made you feel like you fucked up
It's also the most high effort. The others are mostly just a still with narration with the exception of the Virga Island one.
Do not foreswear thy path. Thy journey to the throne is but half-run...
I was too busy raising my tolerance
Too bad that tolerance wasn't enough to tolerate a bad ending lmao
I guess you were prepared to tolerate whatever it is that killed you.
@@Keep701😂😂😂😂
How I felt sleeping at the correct time while working on my graduation thesis.
Crazy you could get spoiled that Zorba’s alive if you miss the deadline 💀
yeah LOOL
But if you are first timer you didn't have any idea why he is still alive anyway :3
I KNOW RIGHT freaking jumpscare wow
Kinda of a cool punishment, like "well fuk you for missing the massive time window, first boss was alive all along 🖕" 😂
Zorba's alive?? Wdym? Bro fell off a cliff
“I don’t care, I’m tired” hit so deep lol
Will is *not* beating the P3 protagonist allegations with these dialoge responses.
Jesus crisis those body counts.
"i don't care. I'm tired"
most relatable protagonist ever
The great rumbling 😅 so the game has even more endings
I like how much care was put into those
The 1st (the Rumbling) and 4th deadline events are great, the others are just "and then they died"
Spoilers from here on
Especially the last one, Louis himself said that in his new world your party has enough willpower to survive
not enough willpower to tell you not to go eepy though
The willpower that would've allowed your party to survive Louis's world is what drives their success in fighting against it. To be defeated or to accept Louis's offers is to fail to demonstrate that willpower. So a party that allows itself to fall into one of these bad endings is one that can't survive Louis's world.
And given that our party (and pretty much everyone) draws on the people around them to support that willpower, in effect nobody can actually survive Louis's world. Not even Louis himself, who still clings onto the dream of finding someone truly strong to join him.
Not going to lie, the only two bad endings that were any good both involved Zorba. The others were pretty meh, as if they were afterthoughts. Still glad I got to see them. I never could bring myself to get the bad endings after the first one. A bit too much time investment for a small cutscene.
Gameover scenes of Metaphor are better written than main story quests of DAV
Oh, hi Zorba, glad that you're okay. Nice shoes by the way.
I'm reminded of the scene from spongebob where squidward imagines spongebob falling asleep at the till and the krusty krab is immediately set ablaze.
Crazy how they voiced all those fails, but didnt voice 40% of the main quests lmao
The fact that they even made all these specific endings just shows how good this game is
I totally forgot you could fail in these games, lol
I’m surprised that all the characters lines are actually voiced
Gallica: We haven't finished our mission yet
The Protagonist: I'm Makoto Yuki and I don't care.
Mice compilation! I would include also the bad ending if you accept Louis offer too
Yes Gallica, i will blame you...i will aaaalways blame you.
does anyone have the problem where you've done everything by the start of the last two deadline (the goes to the castle and the red storm thingy after that)?
Respect that they are all voiced
Are you going to do an "all synthesis compilation" ?
I just finished recording it :) will be up in less than half a day!
One thing i couldn’t quite grasp was whether Louis was planning on turning EVERYONE into Humans? Or just weak people?
He did mention that strong minded people would not turn, but i assume they’ll just get killed off by Humans instead
So basically he wanted an utter annihilation of Euchrania?
Hang on!
Don’t care, tired 🥱
Another one where I wish they extended the endings, so we could see what happens after
even tho louis is a bad person he still killed the "main enemies" aka humans as promised
Wonder what happened to the doggy bros in the Virga arc?
I think they get archetypes or something
HEAVY SPOILERS
Del dies and Bas gets an archetype and joins the party
@@aquaclown6022 NOOOOOOOOOOO
Hang on!
Ending 1. We can take it. Wait, we lost? I don’t believe you.
Ending 2. We got 2 more trails. We can still do this.
Ending 3. Wait. Ugh. What?
Ending 4. Okay. I accept this defeat. WOW, HOLD UP. I LOVE THIS ENDING! IT'S SO GOOD!!!
Ending 5. The win goes to you, new king.
Ending 1 - Zorba explains that he didn't revive the human at full strength when you fight him. This is why he was waiting to unleash the day of calamity.
Ending 2 - Trial 1 requires you finish in top 20. With no time to find another bounty, the party loses.
Ending 3 - yeah this one is a bit confusing but following the time line of events, not infiltrating Charadrius means the protagonist never meets Junah, meaning she alone tries to steal the formula. She likely succeeds since Glodell only finds a problem with the protagonist leaving the soiree. From there, it's VERY hard to say what happens. Even if the events at Dragon Temple follow the same way, just without the party having Junah or followed by Magnus brothers, the key to solving Prince's curse specifically is knowing Renna is guilty, and without meeting protagonists, Rella isn't aware that the party is fighting to revive him. The Prince then dies, and because of the link, so does Rella.
Pedro was to eepy
Neato.
Ahh yes the most realistic ending
Dear word these are depressing.
Spoiler for the opera house shenanigans
i liked that if you failed to rescue eupha, they dropped that zorba still alive and well lmao.
good foreshadowing
It’s weird how Zorba is strong enough to kill the protagonist despite having an archetype
what would happen if the fate of the world was handed to bunch of yall sleepy head.
Letting the prince die is crazy….
Reminds me of fallout 1 and 2 bad endings
the death screen kinda spoils an endgame revelation why it is written 'Fantasy is Dead'
0:45 America after Trump gets elected a second time
Yeah nah. Unless you hate life being more affordable
@@tylerreeves658It's already more expensive and his tariffs aren't even in place yet. I swear y'all don't know that the consumer pays for tariffs. 😂
@@tylerreeves658 those tariffs on foreign products are just going to make grocery prices even higher, and Trump is going to pocket the tariff money by having every gov meeting at mar a lago and charging secret service 8x the normal price. I sincerely hope that things work out for you and every other American but the future looks bleak
@@DMLooseyI swear you have selective amnesia and don't remember he was already President from 2016-2020, and quite literally every individual good and service in the entire country was much cheaper, and everything was fine in general.
We know everything is more expensive. We went from an average annualized 1.8% inflation rate in Trump's 1st term to a 6.4% rate in the four years of Biden.
Tariffs are a non-lethal form of negotiation, as opposed to things like continually escalating the largest war in Europe since WWII, and risking direct conflict with the world's largest nuclear power as opposed to seeking a diplomatic solution.
But what do I know, I've just actually been in the military. I should listen to 21 year olds on the internet who conveniently already knows everything despite having zero life experience.
I know Tik Tok says the sky is falling because your team lost, but a new party takes power every 2-8 years. We all survived each time. It has happened many, many times. Everything is going to be fine.
@@flyrehash5124 Worry about yourself. America is on a much better path than its war mongering in the recent past.
i don’t care. i’m tired
😮😮😅😊
Wait there are only 4 deadlines?
I though there were more 🤔
the other deadline at altabury forces you to progress the plot as planned so there is no deadline ending. just lose in a fight for a normal game over
Why is Zorba Scottish 😂
"I'VE BODIES T' SPARE 🏴🏴🏴"
So the prince dies when the protagonist fails to do his mission in time it is a reason, but it seems a little forced.. Looking back at this game after finishing it.. I like the bonds, but the time management in general is just not my cup of tea, it got old towards the end of the game and I don't know if I would like another ReFantazio game to be like this. I know pretty much everyone loves it, but for me it just feels like the game confines you. Creates illusions of a sense of urgency that really doesn't matter because you could spend 1 hour in a dungeon or 6 hours grinding on red crystals. Faking MP shortage that you can gather veeeery sloooowly one by one.. and of course everybody clears the dungeons in one day, despite it not "really" being intended, but still working because the tools are there..
I loved the game and I was hyped for it since 2016, but I think I would have loved this game more if it had been more like Digital Devil Saga or something. (not linear in time for example)
The prince dies part does feel forced but it's more or less an obvious event should you fail as gallica constantly mentions he won't live long enough. Also late plot reasons why
Metaphor is its new IP and not a spin-off and can experiment future Metaphor games without the calendar system as long as Archetypes are still the main point under the IP name over SMT's Demons, Perhaps Metaphor: Archetype Survivors or Metaphor: Archetype warriors or Metaphor Etrian Odyssey. This is the first game still so let's hope and see Metaphor will also experiment new gameplay styles or borrow what they know to expand how much they can be creative with the Archetypes
@@Imonyaki Yes! Freaking exactly! I figured the only comments I would get are angry persona fans, who don't like my opinion. Glad to see there are still people who just want fun games, and don't just want the same thing over and over again. (I mean the calender system can be fun, but it gets old at some point, at least for me ^^)
I mean, Hashino made games like Digital Devil Saga, he produced that duology as much as he did Metaphor, so I hope that he maybe even goes back to that kind of style, still story driven, but not linear, but I guess we'll see what they'll do. ^^
@@umbral9911 Why are you baiting those types of people with that response? That's incredibly childish. "oh thank God, I didn't get angry persona fans in my comments!" Lol wtf dude
@@Kingdom850 I don't know, because that happens quite a bit ^^ But this is actually easily misunderstandable, I did not mean persona fans in general, I meant the more problematic and narrow minded side of the fandom. Hey, maybe I just didn't articulate it correctly, maybe if you saw what I saw you'd understand why I wrote it that way. Either way, I like Persona, I have nothing against the fandom itself and I didn't mean to offend anyone or anything like that ^^
I don’t care, I’m tired