THE SMALLEST NX NITROUS SHOT EVER? NX NITROUS HITS ON A METRO XFi? PROJECT PANDA X-PRESS GETS JUICE
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- HOW MUCH POWER DOES A METRO XFI REALLY MAKE? WILL THE METRO XFI MOTOR WITHSTAND NITROUS? CAN YOU RUN NITROUS ON A 1.0L 3-CYLINDER MOTOR? HOW MUCH NITROUS CAN I RUN? WILL NITROUS RUIN MY MOTOR? DOES NITROUS EXPLODE? HOW MUCH POWER IS NITROUS WORTH ON A METRO XFI? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I SUBJECTED THE 1.0L (30-CYLINDER) METRO XFI MOTOR IN PROJECT PANDA X-PRESS TO A COUPLE HITS OF NITROUS! HOW MUCH WHEEL POWER (ON THE CHASSIS DYNO) DID IT MAKE NA? DID IT BLOW UP? DID WE ADD MORE NITROUS?
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My wife had a green geo like that when I met her in 1996. She was upset she needed tires, I got a quote for $129 for the whole set. I was like don't worry Honey I got this 🤣 I'm surprised to see one of these still alive.
The nice thing about dynoing a fwd car at Westech is that it’s already halfway out the door!
I have been waiting years for some small engine stuff. Thanks Mr Holdener.
My first car was a 1992 Geo Metro automatic hatchback like 26 years ago. I remember getting pulled over for speeding by a Virginia State Trooper, on I95, on the way back to Camp Lejeune NC. He didn't give me a ticket because he said the judge wouldn't believe a Metro could ever go that fast! 😎 My plan was to swap the bigger Geo Storm engine in.
😂😂😂 That's fucking hilarious! And, thank you for your service to me and our country!
I was a courier and drove a metro ! Got pulled over going 78 in a 55 down hill!
Anything under 100 hp should be converted to Squirrels 🐿️
I blame the squirrels 😒
Probably a good idea. What’s the conversion? 25 squirrel to 1 horse?
Sea horses
Blower and N2O!
The XFI stands for Xtinguishes Female Interest! I had one and did 47 mpg @ 80mph. I never should have sold it!!!!!!!!!
Funny!
And, AWESOME!
I love the geo content. Had a 3 banger with the five speed and it was the definition of "its more fun to drive a slow car fast" and being a larger guy i could still fit in one
that dinky blower would work beautifully on this three banger, a super cheap dinky turbo would be cool too
also restricting the return for more fuel pressure is actual genius
Man we love this stuff! Richard has something for every hot rodder. Keep it up Richard you are the real deal.
I hand ported a couple of those heads a few years ago. This included cutting back and streamlining the EGR tubes in the ports. I also made a straighter shot from the intake to the valve. Results were pretty good. I also milled the head down as far as practical. That little thing ran great.
Best vehicle ever made as for durability and fuel economy.
I bought my 93 in 1992. The best mpg I got was 58 mpg with three adults inside.
Drove vehicle for 15 years through five different family members. It was the most passed down vehicle in our family and everyone liked it. Finally donated it to a church.
58 mpg seems high with 3 adults on board seems high
I doubt that car can move 3 adults unless it was down hill or really small adults 😂
I bet everybody in the shop got a kick out of that.
this is a great project to talk about volumetric efficiency....
Sooo... youre saying i should go less fuel more n2o and make all the horseponys?? 😁
You da man, Richard! 👍👍
The sound reminds me of the old 1969 Triumph Trident 750 T150 that I used to own, I can't remember what it's hp rating was though.
I love the "other guys" content!
My friend had a Metro in high school and was always telling us how cool they actually were, but we didn't understand at the time because we were way into sbc's and big blocks. We just thought he was trying to church up his hoopty.
All we knew is that with gas around 80 cents a gallon. We go could go on crazy road trips by just pooling our pocket change together.🤣
The Metro can run on couch cushion change
Every nitrous pull had me expecting parts to come flying out of the engine.
Best stuff yet!
Years ago, i did some R&D for top gun nitrous systems and we put a 75 shot on a 2TC hemi head four banger... It was a monster! The single fogger gave fuel distribution problems, even after porting the intake and going to an open plenum. We z shaped a few rods and decided to go to four individual nozzles. Ended up putting my first four nozzle system on a Suzuki GSXR. It went to 125hp 😮 it was amazing
I would have done a .018 fuel and a .027 nitrous .... But I like to party 🎉
Back in the days when craftsman made competent tools, ah the good days
I had a Geo Metro I entered in a tough truck race. The thing absolutely flew and it was on a tiny indoor course so it could make the sharp corners quickly. Gained a lot of respect for Metros with that little turd.
😂 oh my God I love this
Why have the MAP sensor unhooked? Makes me wonder if that's why the AFR was being so weird.
It is fun playing with the small stuff. 15-20hp gain when you start with 45 is pretty good.
I agree, that's a good percentage.
it was unhooked when I bought it-did not realize til we had AF on the dyno
Love the real videos Richard!!!
Cool, I just Love differnt stuff
I had a geo metro. I went through 3 engines. All burnt valves.
8 degrees plug filter haha ... SOUNDED MUCH BETTER .. HAD SWITCH LIKE THAT2
Looking forward to when the XFi really stands for Xtreme Forced induction with that AMR500 😂
Xtreme might be a stretch-maybe just Xtra
SOUNDED BETTER & TIRES SPUN NICELY BALANCED LOOK
Need a limiter chain on that engine, to hold down all that POWER! 😜
Lol, I doubt they even needed a strap other than to keep their insurance happy.
Suzuki power!
Great video, i really enjoyed it, thank you
Heck yeah very nice video
😂😂 this is so much fun! I'm going to get some fried rice and watch the next episode of
#PandaExpress.
Well done, can't wait to see the S.R.P.B.!
Super Richie Panda Blower😂
Hope you used the BIG tie down straps! 😂
most expensive part of the motor
Interesting experiment
I was gonna guess 100crank but I’m guessing you’re at about 80ish crank which is pretty dang good for a tiny car. At end I got a chuckle from mid11s at first glance thinking 1/4mi. But is a/f😁looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
this motor is rated at 49 hp flywheel-it is nowhere near 100 hp
I think my 2001 swift 1.3 is only rated at like 80 factory lol but it's fun
oh F yeah i love this!!!!
You should put a carburetor on there and see what it does
it already has a tb that adds fuel so a Carb might not add anything
@@richardholdener1727 I'm just curious if it's a restriction or not more than anything
Fill me a balloon, i believe the geo is worthy of celebration
Shiver me timbers
Before the dyno pull I'm guessing 85 hp.
Boy was I wrong
Don't know why but I always thought that the xfi was a 4 cylinder
Holdener will literally dyno anything.
I drove a hand me down comp Blue convertible back in 2004 around Las Vegas and it was a fun little car my 97 7.3 ford f250 4x4 sat at home I would rev the poop out of it to get the rental supercar guys to show off a few took the 40 hp bait lol
Is this the new NorCal to SoCal commuter to replace the effie?
If you squint just right, it almost sounds like a 3800. 😛
Hello Richard. You make some super informative videos and I’m wonder how some of the stock GM non AFM cams perform in specifically a Gen V 5.3L as AFM delete options (also would be curious about 6.2L)
I know the L8T cam is a popular choice but also wondering how some of the other non afm cams perform and if you can fully utilize the vvt without PTV clearance issues.
Here’s some part numbers I’ve come up with
L8T 12672469
L8P 12736191
LT2 12671007
LT5 12664572
I personally think this would make a great video but I understand that it’s no small task.
see the Ultimate LS cam video-I tested most all of the stock cams-not the L8t-but we can guess pretty well based on all the other data
Drove one for a bit. But didn't feel that sad.
If he would have done 4th gear pulls, this video would've been over an hour long...
at least
Needs a Harbor Freight Predator swap. 😁
It's not the car that is the star.
Those engines were used for certain racing series where displacement had to be 1 liter or less.
They're actually very efficient and reliable engines with decent power for 1 liter.
I always thought they ran about 75-80hp, no idea they were closer to 50 stock
75-80 at the engine will be about 50 at the wheels. Especially in 2nd gear where you're losing more in the transmission.
the XFI was rated at 49 hp flywheel-only the Sprint Turbo made 70 hp with 6-7 psi of boost from the factory
@@richardholdener1727 if it was rated at 49 flywheel then how did you get 50 to wheels before nos?
😅. Super cool
Hey Richard I was wondering since you know so much about dodge engines, I’m looking into procharging a 5.7 hemi and I would like to add a hellcat supercharger to it with 6.2 to 5.7 adapter plates. I already know how to do that, but how would I be able to mount 2 front mounted turbos near the grille of the car and near the hood. The car is a 5.7 Chrysler 300 so it has a big grille for airflow and I’m planning on getting a vented hood. Thanks in advance if you see this and give any advice.❤ (Edit: I meant twin charging, sorry)
you mentioned turbos, a Procharger and Hellcat (PD) blower. Which one or ones are you running-those are all different
@@richardholdener1727 Sorry for the confusion I meant, twin charging. I am just talking about combining a hellcat blower and 2 front mounted turbos, sorry for the confusion. My main question was I already know how to add a hellcat blower to a 5.7 from this video ruclips.net/video/QPJNi2elrw8/видео.html but I am just wondering what modifications or what would I have to add or weld to get that to work with a hellcat blower? Thanks for responding
@@LdotHandlessounds like a project beyond your skill level. All that boost requires alot of knowledge to get right so take it to professional or leave it alone.
I like the amr 500 idea but what about a stock dsm turbo or an ecoboost turbo
I have Sprint Turbo motor-turbo would be better but that is not the goal
@@richardholdener1727
Well I should have said a comparison or do both lol
My 92 Metro seemed way, way more peppy than that thing lol..... definitely was the 3cyl, definitely a 5spd, definitely was hideous and looked like an egg, but was fun, hilarious, and fantastic on gas and pretty much got the thing for freeeee
was it an XFi? The standard Metro made more power but I'm curious how you could compare the peppiness from you driving yours and watching this video
If you bolt 4 of those Geo engines together you will have a 12 cyl. 👍😎👍
Just what you need a 200 hp v12 😂😂😂
@@BlackandWhitecustoms 👍😎👍
Plug the map back in and it will be a lot different. Without it the fuel and ignition tables will be trash.
we did
Hope you brought several bags of oil absorbing floor sweep 😂
It is a leaker
29 hp
I am guessing 53hp.
Is that an inertia dyno?
Primarily. It likely has an eddy current brake as well, but the main resistance is the inertia of the rollers.
@@NBSV1 I asked a specific question and you responded with this? Likely?
@@jeffreydurham5342 Dynos do have different options and setups. I can’t give a definite answer on the exact configuration of theirs.
Which is why the answer was that it is primarily an inertia dyno.
the SuperFlow dyno can be run loaded or as an inertia
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Something that never made sense to me. How does timing cause dieseling? The ignition is shut off, it shouldn't affect anything. Is it making the spark plug glowing hot to continue ignition?
Yes...
From wiki:
Dieseling can occur for several reasons:
Built-up carbon in the ignition chamber can glow red after the engine is off, providing a mechanism for igniting unburnt fuel. Such a thing can happen when the engine runs very rich, depositing unspent fuel and particles on the pistons and valves. Similarly, rough metal regions within the piston chamber can cause this same problem, since they can glow red. It has also been suggested that an improperly rated spark plug can retain heat and cause the same problem.
A carburetor that does not completely close can contribute to running once the engine is off, since the extra fuel and oxygen mixture can combust easily in the warm piston chamber. Similarly, hot vaporized oil gases from the engine crankcase can provide ample fuel for dieseling.
Incorrect timing.
An engine that runs too hot or too lean may produce an environment conducive to allowing unspent fuel to burn.
An idle speed that is too fast can leave the engine with too much angular momentum upon shutdown, raising the chances that the engine can turn over and burn more fuel and lock itself into a cycle of continuous running.
Another potential "run on" problem after an ignition has been turned off can be attributed to one or more inlet valves that are not sealing fully allowing the piston motion to pull a fuel mixture in when technically the valve is shut.
@@xmo552 yes I understand all those reasons but I'm not quite following why the timing would change anything after the ignition is shut off. It's irrelevant when it's not doing anything.
@@jasonbirch1182
When the timing is too far advanced.... by it firing too early... it creates extreme cylinder pressure and heat. So, when you kill the ignition.. the combustion chamber is still super heated (more than normal). It doesn't matter that the ignition was killed. There is still residual fuel vapors moving and the engine is still turning for a sec and the super heated combustion chamber can and will ignite the fuel vapor coming in..... regardless of ignition system being off.
Diesel works under the same principles. There aren't spark plugs in a diesel engine. Just super heated combustion chamber and fuel that will ignite under pressure and heat.
A gasoline engine can mimic those conditions.
Also if the timing is too advanced... That early ignition may actually be popping the next stroke.
This dieseling issue is/was common with carbureted engines because the fuel is still traveling in the intake after the key is shut off, timing too far foward, and running the engine hot whether at polonged high speed, desert driving, etc.
Most of this issue goes away with proper timing, cooling, and efi.
Efi stops the fuel flow abruptly so then nothing ignites even if the timing is too far advanced. No fuel = no kaboom.
@@xmo552 actual diesels are solely compression ignition. There is no fuel until the correct timed Injection. Also the spark is shut off and is in no way lighting the next charge of compressed fuel. The heated combustion chamber does make sense though.
@@jasonbirch1182
Yup, I was making a reference.
Glad you grasped it.
Every engine is different; 4° retard for 18 hp, while safe, seems drastic. Is it not, 2° per 50 hp generally?
2°/50hp for some 6 liter V8 maybe.
It's fairly easy to gain 30% more power when you start off with 5 hp 😂
it's fairly easy to exaggerate
😂
50hp