i do hope that chan is genuine though... he’s such a great leader for skz and a wonderful support pillar for us stays. same with minho, changbin, hyunjin, jisung, felix, and jeongin as well. it hurts me to see them get hurt for what happened.
@@mika-qt1jk If they weren't genuine people they wouldn't still be in jyp right now. Woojin got kicked for a reason. And jyp always values good personality above all else in his groups
@Stary Wooden it’s just common sense that if the comment was about woojin and his answer to it perfectly correlated with the whole woojin situation, that he was talking about. He makes it very clear who he’s talking about, especially since he says “stay understands what i’m saying”. who else would every stay know about if not woojin? What he’s saying matches too well with the situation to not be about woojin. By the way chan spoke about him we can tell that they clearly didn’t end on a good note, and the members were very hurt by whatever woojin did; as chan said he betrayed them. I’m not saying that the SA allegations were true, but i believe he must’ve done multiple things that in the end resulted in him having to face harsh consequences and got asked to leave/kicked out of jyp. Even if none of the allegations were true he disgusts me because of the way he was making memes and trying to profit off of the attention he got for the SA allegations.
ikr, i can't believe i wasted tears with w****n, i even had a hard time accepting that they were 8 and not 9 anymore back when he left. but this issue is a big eye-opener for me.
I'm seriously hurt been crying since the morning i still can't believe he really did that .. i expected drugs yes but this i didn't see coming i'm so disappointed .. skz are only eight
skz and chan would never blame woojin if he had a physical issue, a mental problem, or family issues that caused him to leave- so when he leaves the group and on bad terms with the members it’s obvious something else must have happened. and now it all makes sense.
@@jadeshepherd8627 Ok wtf is up with this. Woojin was proven innocent, he didn't bully them and he didn't sexually harass anyone. Also this doesn't sound like Chan is hurt because Woojin abused him, it sounds more like Woojin made a promise to stay with them or something like that and due to reasons you guys don't know because y'all don't know them and being a fan is as far as you will know them, Woojin ended up breaking that promise and leaving, betraying the members trust. I Stan skz and Woojin. I support Stray kids and Woojin. I'm not betraying stray kids. Can you imagine how Woojin feels rn? Because of people like y'all, he has had to deal with hate messages, death threats, and whatever else society decided to throw at him. He didn't even do anything. Even if he did break a promise, that's between skz and Woojin. Not y'all. Take the advice Chan was giving and move the f*ck on.
@@eminem.69 Ok wtf is up with this. Woojin was proven innocent, he didn't bully them and he didn't sexually harass anyone. Also this doesn't sound like Chan is hurt because Woojin abused him, it sounds more like Woojin made a promise to stay with them or something like that and due to reasons you guys don't know because y'all don't know them and being a fan is as far as you will know them, Woojin ended up breaking that promise and leaving, betraying the members trust. I Stan skz and Woojin. I support Stray kids and Woojin. I'm not betraying stray kids. Can you imagine how Woojin feels rn? Because of people like y'all, he has had to deal with hate messages, death threats, and whatever else society decided to throw at him. He didn't even do anything. Even if he did break a promise, that's between skz and Woojin. Not y'all. Take the advice Chan was giving and move the f*ck on.
Being a leader ain't easy. You will be guilty and receive hate for something you didn't do. Being a leader isn't just about position, it's more than that
@@adeklmf8843 I joined the fandom after Woojin left, I never really knew how ot9 skz was. For me, they have always been ot8 and will continue to be so. Also, those were ot9 said skz is 9 because skz was 9, they didn't know what he did. But obviously he's done something very wrong and the other members were were hurt by it as well, so we shouldn't associate him to the group anymore. He's not a part of skz anymore, especially not after what he did. Skz is ot8 now and will remain ot8 and I think we should all come to accept it.
The way he avoids pointing out that the person he is talking about is Woojin makes my heart break. You can tell he is hurt by Woojin’s decision. That promise must have been that they would all stay together till the end. But I get Woojin. Sometimes if your always under pressure that you can’t take it will be good for your mental and physical help to stop before you hurt the people around you anymore. Even tho we don’t say it I think we all know deep down in us the real Reason he decided to leave.....
@@natoips This is just so disappointing. If it's true, I hope Woojin gets punished. I already see some people being disappointed in Stray Kids and JYP when Woojin isn't even part of the group anymore. In the U.S. Woojin was trending #1 (now #2) because of this incident with many locals chiming in. Now there's more tweets saying Jungwoo from NCT could possibly have sexually assaulted others as well (possibly on the same day when he was with Woojin). I remember Jungwoo taking an extended absences when Woojin left too.
honestly even though the rumors were fake, i still think something bad happened between them and i don't think they ended in good terms, like, chan would've never said something like this if woojin actually left for personal reasons, like idk family issues or mental health issues, chan seems to be really disappointed.
Ikr He ruined bang chans image and this made bang chan blame himself Felix and Minho needs to reassure their leader taht it's not his fault. Jeongin was hurt. Hyunjin cried Jisung leaved the room after hearing that woo come to club that is not legal to do as an idol Seungmin wants to fight woo and Minho and Changbin can't even look at woo idk but u think he. Did a lot of bad things off cam to skz
same the rumors were fake but i just don't trust him anymore. i supported him even after his departure but this statements coming from chan just hits me into reality then. chan was like implying he was selfish for leaving the group. to think that they had an announced concert and cb before the news. they had to start again, re-record astronaut, levanter, the whole album and practice from the start for the concert. the stay in london photobook too has to be edited that time and everything was rescheduled. they only have barely two months to prepare everything, the cb and concert. they rushed things and it was physically and mentally challenging for them, judging from their ments at their concert. i had a hunch why he left and i will just keep it to myself lol chan was saying here that he did a lot of mistakes that resulted to his departure and ended up affecting the group and the company staffs as well (i think). i just know that he wasn't kicked out but left on his own will. think what's his "personal reason" to leave in the middle of their busy schedule. that's what i understand in the whole wj departure situation. if u read this damn long essay, thank u heh edit: wait no. chan said he had to face the worst consequences? was he forced to leave i mean was jyp told him to leave voluntarily than kicking him out for the media? nevertheless idc anymore haha if he left in the middle of a contract, there's two meanings. it's either he did something that is forbidden in the contract or the company did something which is against on his own will like kris, luhan and tao departure but nah
@@cz3393 Ok wow you put into words what I've been thinking about this. It also reminds me so so much about Kris' departure from EXO right before Exoplanet & in the middle of promotions. Junmyeon accepting the price on his own and how drained the guys looked in the first shows. Like come on, ik one can be tired or having fucked up but to leave and just... leaving all your teammates to rearrange & overwork themselves for your selfishness is beyond me like please have some respect 😭 Glad they could overcome it though
omg even when felix messed up saying he has 7 brothers in skz (the australia show speech) like he rly messed up on purpose on accident lmao. his subconscious dont lie
"Thinks about himself" "Selfish" "Betrayal" "Stays know what I mean" Woojin was always like so quiet and u couldn't even tell he was there Edit:I just wanna say that some people read my comment wrong and have replied with rude shit so I'm going to explain what I meant. The first words were what chan said and they just really hit me. Second thing was my opinion when he was on camera. He wasn't active when they were on camera like he was really quiet and like I bearly noticed that he left and I don't mean that in any rude way bc he was actually my bias right before he left.
I think bang chan was dissapointed because woojin was so important to him and maybe that's why he said that. also this decision affect the group and chan is the lider so.. We need to understand how does he feel.
Lol you don't even know woojin outside camera, so you can't really compare what YOU see on their content with Bang chan's opinions considering he's personally known and lived with this person
While he didn’t say Woojin’s name, I think there is a lot of his words in where he was trying to get the audience to understand that he was the person that Chan was talking about. The fact that he said that “I can’t go into too much detail about it” and “Stays will know what I’m talking about” makes it seem like he really really wants to tell us what happened but he’s forced to keep quiet.
As a Stay, It's sad to feel like Stray kids and Woojin aren't in good terms. They were a team but now it feels like they are a stranger to each other. I just hope to see them together in the future not as a group but as friends that once they've been.
Shannen Eira Tamayo yes...if its really true that woojin quit cause of personal reasons...then why skz and woojin seems like strangers..and woojin leaving the group causing skz to be really messed up at that time and woojin never even said sorry to fans...Butim not blaming woojin or skz cause all of them are still young and have a long journey ahead..but its sad to see them like strangers
I really don't wanna break your bubble but A LOT of kpop idols in groups aren't really friends it might look like it when you watch their videos but that doesn't mean they are like that in real live.
jdgrande yeah but i think most idols are friends but most idol prolly are not BFF...i meant cause most idols spent a lot of time as trainee and if they got into a group so they must achieve that understanding..Making it short i believe most idols in a group are at least friends but not bffs cause of the trainee time they spent..but its just sad to see woojin and skz like strangers especially when someone follow the even before their debut
To imagine Chan was writing and producing songs at all hours, working his ass off, trying to take care of his members, getting bullshit hate AND had to deal with Woojin.... No wonder he had those nosebleeds. I just.... I just wanna hug him. We all know that when Chan gets down to business he can be a hard ass but he's like that because wants everyone around him to do their best. I just... I wish I could tell him how proud I am of him and hug him forever
Me too, let's all give him a virtual hug. ❤✨ No because imagine like a lot of people around the world giving stray kids a big hug, they'll probably end up dead HAHHAHAH😂
his statement makes a lot of sense, he keeps talking about how actions can affect the people around you and it just makes so much sense. and the “betrayal” part just makes so much sense. this is heartbreaking.
Poor baby..they probably endured a lot and he looks like he wants to go off but he’s holding himself back for the sake of the rest of the members and their careers❤️❤️
NONE of us know, or will EVER truly know, what woojin did, but we all know it must have been something bad for him to leave right before a comeback like that, and for jyp to edit him out of literally everything, and rerecord the songs. however, Stray Kids has been 8 longer than it has been 9 now, so i think we should just leave it at that and not bring up woojin when talking about skz
Stray Kids is 8 Christopher Bang Lee Minho Seo Changbin Hwang Hyunjin Han Jisung Lee Felix Kim Seungmin Yang Jeongin “It’s all good now” -Felix in Levanter
Chris didn't choose woojin over Alen and Yao Chen and other trainees just to be like this Chris didn't write all of those songs just to be turned into jokes by woojin
Going back to this now. Woojin i am so damn disappointed. I can't imagine the betrayal and disappointment the members and jyp staffs felt because of him.
maya rothová also how fast jyp terminated his contract....jyp doesn’t terminate contracts that often....in jyp history they terminated 2pm jay park due to his hating scandal on Koreans, day6 junhyeok for dating a fan....and jyp have a dating ban for 3 years it’s not written in the contract but it’s just a trust between the agency and the members...and lastly woojin...
knowing what happened on twitter today,, things are starting to make more sense. stray kids and woojin are not on good terms and probably never will be and if the situation with woojin is confirmed to be 100% true,, he needs to be jailed
This hits even more different now because of the stuff that just came up and im truly speechless and sad Chan must have been trying his hardest and probably still now holding his anger in.
I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion Woojin didn't left because of mental/phisical health but some other reason. Like come on, Chan wouldn't used words like "betray" "mistakes" "actions and decisons" and "selfish" if it would involve Woojin's health - it's obvious... If it was it, he could take some time like other artists for ex. Mina and boys would be supportive - we know how mental health is important to them. It must to be something different. He had to do something that is prohibited and by doing it he broke some rules, this coused his departure and affected whole group. It could be dating, smoking weed or anything else that he shouldn't do. THIS ARE ONLY EXAMPLES SO DON'T COME AT ME. You can clearly see Chan's disappointment and hurt and I'm not surprised... "9 or none"... He's the leader, he choose them and then one "betrayed" him. Sad.
kez i started stanning skz a month after he left but i wanted to learn ab him. it seems like after he left, skz tried to enforce that they were 8 and i see why now. i wouldn't want to be associated with a monster like him.
mel ur right, i stanned since the survival show and they were all so close, seeing they kinda ended on bad terms when he left shocked me. that’s when i knew it couldn’t be a physical mental or family issue because skz would never blame him for that. but now it all makes sense and it makes me feel sick
Just my theory I feel like woojin talked a leaving in miroh era cuz you can see he is really quiet about that but straykids somehow convinced him into staying just for a few months hoping that would stay with them but he still didn’t want to stay. And something was off about the last weekly idol like no one went to woojin team. And this is just a theory though
Just my theory, and I do not intend to offend anyone, but I think the boys had a fight or misunderstanding that led Woojin to leave the group. Chan was talking about decisions and such, maybe because he thinks Woojin made an irrational decision of leaving the group, that they could've just settle it. Just my hunch and I thought no one will come at me.
Yeah I honestly think it was a big misunderstanding that never got resolved. Especially the way he talks about Woojin make it sound like he doesn't understand why he left and thinks he did it for nothing. :( I'm sure Woojin had his reasons and I sure he had more than one but it makes me sad how everyone's sad ;-; it kinda seems like Woojin kept everything to himself and then when he left no one knew why... Poor Woojin, Bang Chan, and everyone 😢
Tch Hyunjin's Hairband yea I’m pretty sure they know why he left but they don’t want all the drama behind the scenes in the public’s eye... at least that’s what I’m assuming.
I feel so bad for Chan. Imagine you are trained for a long time seeing your dormmate one by one has debuted, be the leader since before debuted to sorting the best among the best members, and carrying a whole group in your shoulders :(
when he said dont be selfish i started crying i feel that they are starangers to eachother now and they fought aftr this i wish woojin is ok and channie aswell as the rest of the group and all stays ofc we love you stray kids we love you woojin
i don't know who to trust anymore, but i believe in chan, i trust him. though i still wish and hope that woojin will never do such thing, if he really does, i'm so disappointed.
I really the WJ situation doesn’t ruin anything for the SKZ. Not just the comeback next week, but their birthdays as well. Last year he really messed up LK birthday and it sucks that there is a possibility that it could ruin JS, FL and SM’s birthday as well. But in the end, the news needs to be released for justice to be served :(
Meri Hovhannisyan the news of WJ leaving was 3 days after LK’s birthday . the whole week, the boys did not post anything and wasn’t active online. there were no posts about LK’s birthday or any vlive celebrations like they always do. it’s because he was leaving the group and the boys wasn’t in the mood to hold a birthday party .
In light of recent event, i dont like how chan talked about this.....it looks like hes more disappointed in woojin breaking the rules EXPOSING the rest of the group to bad fame instead of being disappointed in him because what he did was wrong. He keeps talking about responsabilities and duties towards the team instead of just correct behaviour, but i guess he was just forced to not expose the real events because of the agency....so he worded them wrongly....i dont blame him tho, i respect bangchan a lot for what he had to go through, i cant imagine the struggle to not reveal anything, knowing that us stay could still be in danger by supporting woojin's solo career. Im disappointed in jyp for not saying anything tho. EDIT: im still keeping up the news, someone in the comment made me notice that the events most probably occured AFTER w. left the agency, so Chan here was adressing something that wasnt the sex*al assault. If this is true i take back everything i said in the comment earlier; im not here to discredict bagnchan as a leader or a person in general, i love stray kidz and chan a whole lot, i and always will support all 8 of them.
But if I'm not mistaken, the alleged sexual assault thing happened AFTER Woojin left Stray Kids and JYP Entertainment. The most probable reason his contract got terminated was because he went to prostitution/sketchy(ones with only female servers to cater to men) bars/clubs, which is prohibited for JYP Entertainment artists and staff - I think this is what Chan meant when he said 'with the decisions and choices he made'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I read somewhere. And I think it wasn't JYP's or Stray Kids' place to talk about what happened after he left, and they might not have known about the sexual assault either.
I don't know what more you expected of Chan. He addressed it as well as he could, at the end of the day this responsibility shouldn't have even been left upon his shoulders. Chan did the best he could and was probably silenced. I still remember how everyone attacked Chan from the time of Woojins departure to now. Woojin is in the wrong, SKZ and Chan are not to blame for his presumed actions and the victims of said actions should not be invalidated ~ Woojin's time to speak is now.
@@rikiduckzz im still keeping up with the news, i wasnt sure if that happened before or after! My mistake, i should have paid more attention. If this happened after, i take back everything i said on the comment, and totally agree with you.
@@immyrichie14 i dont blame him for this, it was a real tough time and he probably wasnt very aware of himself, since he was very hurt and broken for what woojin did not only to him but the rest of the team (bangchan himself being very selfless and focusing more on others feelings rather than his) + the fact that the agency definetely forbidded him to talk about it. But i still think he adressed the minor problem (again, not blaming him).
Can confirm that it happened after! In the post by OP she specified that he was a FORMER member and that he was using his FORMER group's name a lot. She also said went out to a bar when they shouldn't have because of COVID - which happened after he left. Apparently the 'mistake' being referred to here is how Woojin used to go to sketchy bars with 'female-only' waitresses - which is against JYPs rules.
I trust Chan 100%. Something else happened that we don’t know about but they are happy now and that’s all that matters. They are re comfortable and open. I trust them
props to him for staying so damn calm and clear minded after all that was happening off camera. what they were all going through, and we had no clue because they couldnt tell us. i love bangchan and skz even more now
I joined stay fandom a couple months ago when woojin already left so i dont know how it felt like for you guys when he left but i feel sorry for all the stays and straykids member who had to go through that. Edit: i take this back, im not sorry that he left the group, ik sorry for straykids who had to go through that knowing everything and they were not able to say anything, it must have been hard for them.
Wow- You can hear the hurt in his voice, I cant beleive he put so much trust into him just to get this- and now finding out he abused his members, Chan must be sooo disappointed and disgusted
Stray Kids has officially 8 members now, but please don't forget that they started as STRAY KIDS and fight against each challenge with 9 members. SUPPORT EVERYONE AND KEEP SAFE.
ya know what hurts me ? bang chan don't even look at the camera/phone when he's talking like he's really sad (?) if that's the right word to say (?) but hey we all make mistakes . its fine
![[Prank] K-pop Crime story - (Illegal) Chart manipulation | Stray Kids](/img/1.gif)
This really proves that we don't know these idols behind cameras
i do hope that chan is genuine though... he’s such a great leader for skz and a wonderful support pillar for us stays. same with minho, changbin, hyunjin, jisung, felix, and jeongin as well. it hurts me to see them get hurt for what happened.
@@mika-qt1jk If they weren't genuine people they wouldn't still be in jyp right now. Woojin got kicked for a reason. And jyp always values good personality above all else in his groups
We honestly don't, it's so sad.
@@sam8192 nct? Wait whatt?? What happen with them?
@Stary Wooden it’s just common sense that if the comment was about woojin and his answer to it perfectly correlated with the whole woojin situation, that he was talking about. He makes it very clear who he’s talking about, especially since he says “stay understands what i’m saying”. who else would every stay know about if not woojin? What he’s saying matches too well with the situation to not be about woojin. By the way chan spoke about him we can tell that they clearly didn’t end on a good note, and the members were very hurt by whatever woojin did; as chan said he betrayed them. I’m not saying that the SA allegations were true, but i believe he must’ve done multiple things that in the end resulted in him having to face harsh consequences and got asked to leave/kicked out of jyp. Even if none of the allegations were true he disgusts me because of the way he was making memes and trying to profit off of the attention he got for the SA allegations.
Ya umm... This hits different. No wonder chan seemed so disappointed and betrayed
Yeah. I know what you mean. I feel almost...sick, you know? If that makes sense. My stomach is in knots.
yeah ... it all makes sense now :(
yeah..
Are you talking about the Twitter accusations? TT
The fact the comments don’t even realise
skz is officially only eight
ikr, i can't believe i wasted tears with w****n, i even had a hard time accepting that they were 8 and not 9 anymore back when he left. but this issue is a big eye-opener for me.
Stray kids is 8. not 9 and tahts on period
@@awalaxis_ yessss
Eight is great it is😌
I'm seriously hurt been crying since the morning i still can't believe he really did that .. i expected drugs yes but this i didn't see coming i'm so disappointed .. skz are only eight
skz and chan would never blame woojin if he had a physical issue, a mental problem, or family issues that caused him to leave- so when he leaves the group and on bad terms with the members it’s obvious something else must have happened. and now it all makes sense.
Paru Huali i really really hope this won’t leave a bad impression on our boys skz :( since they have nothing to do with this
is it ok if i use this comment on other videos? i can clarify it isnt mine, its just worded so well
@Dog 🐕 THIS
@@jadeshepherd8627 Ok wtf is up with this. Woojin was proven innocent, he didn't bully them and he didn't sexually harass anyone. Also this doesn't sound like Chan is hurt because Woojin abused him, it sounds more like Woojin made a promise to stay with them or something like that and due to reasons you guys don't know because y'all don't know them and being a fan is as far as you will know them, Woojin ended up breaking that promise and leaving, betraying the members trust. I Stan skz and Woojin. I support Stray kids and Woojin. I'm not betraying stray kids. Can you imagine how Woojin feels rn? Because of people like y'all, he has had to deal with hate messages, death threats, and whatever else society decided to throw at him. He didn't even do anything. Even if he did break a promise, that's between skz and Woojin. Not y'all. Take the advice Chan was giving and move the f*ck on.
@@eminem.69 Ok wtf is up with this. Woojin was proven innocent, he didn't bully them and he didn't sexually harass anyone. Also this doesn't sound like Chan is hurt because Woojin abused him, it sounds more like Woojin made a promise to stay with them or something like that and due to reasons you guys don't know because y'all don't know them and being a fan is as far as you will know them, Woojin ended up breaking that promise and leaving, betraying the members trust. I Stan skz and Woojin. I support Stray kids and Woojin. I'm not betraying stray kids. Can you imagine how Woojin feels rn? Because of people like y'all, he has had to deal with hate messages, death threats, and whatever else society decided to throw at him. He didn't even do anything. Even if he did break a promise, that's between skz and Woojin. Not y'all. Take the advice Chan was giving and move the f*ck on.
I know it might be wrong, but I'm so glad that I met Stray Kids as an eight-membered group.
True 😭
Me too bro i didnt even know there had been a 9th member til chan addressed the ticket site using an old pic😂
@@-l-733 y'all dont have to know about that member. Skz has always been 8
True
Same
Why does everything fits.. came back here because of that account.. it really seems like him...
Same...
Honestly yeah
im so disappointed. it does seem like what op described in her tweet :(
Same i feel dumb ngl
The Promise Chan said probably meant the contract he breached. It makes so much sense.
Being a leader ain't easy. You will be guilty and receive hate for something you didn't do. Being a leader isn't just about position, it's more than that
Repeat after me: STRAY KIDS ONLY HAS 8 MEMBERS.
STRAYKIDS HAS 8 MEMBERS
STRAY KIDS ONLY HAS 8 MEMBERS
STRAY KIDS ONLY HAS 8 MEMBERS!
@@adeklmf8843 I joined the fandom after Woojin left, I never really knew how ot9 skz was. For me, they have always been ot8 and will continue to be so. Also, those were ot9 said skz is 9 because skz was 9, they didn't know what he did. But obviously he's done something very wrong and the other members were were hurt by it as well, so we shouldn't associate him to the group anymore. He's not a part of skz anymore, especially not after what he did. Skz is ot8 now and will remain ot8 and I think we should all come to accept it.
STRAY KIDS ONLY HAS 8 MEMBERS
Bangchan doesn't deserve all the hate. I'm crying. Now the truth is already coming out, I hope Chan get what he deserves.
he wants stays to be happy and us stays to be happy so lets make them happy with what we can do
"Had to face worst consequences by making a little mistake"
"If you made a promise to the team or the people around you, you need to be responsible"
by making *a lot of mistakes
that's what I heard and what is also shown in the auto-subs
When he spoke about the promise, it broke my heart plus it was kinda showing that he was talking about Woojin which breaks my heart more.......
I totally get you :'(
What was the promise?
@@ST4Y_BL1NKthey would stay together as 9
@@kaeragh ohhh thank you
stray kids consists of 8 members not 9, their better w/o him, imagine how chan and the other members felt
Han Jisung I heard JYPE kick him out like why would they kick him out just for nothing
@@lvchae4636 they kicked him out because of the things he did
@@regelio Felix was scared so scared of woojin so he asked woojin if he could use the bathroom
@@kaye1051 he did and he would pick up minho when he was obviously uncomfortable and without consent
Yes agree, OT8 is perfect
The way he avoids pointing out that the person he is talking about is Woojin makes my heart break. You can tell he is hurt by Woojin’s decision. That promise must have been that they would all stay together till the end. But I get Woojin. Sometimes if your always under pressure that you can’t take it will be good for your mental and physical help to stop before you hurt the people around you anymore. Even tho we don’t say it I think we all know deep down in us the real Reason he decided to leave.....
@@NareKech people are saying that he sexually assulted a girl
@@natoips This is just so disappointing. If it's true, I hope Woojin gets punished. I already see some people being disappointed in Stray Kids and JYP when Woojin isn't even part of the group anymore. In the U.S. Woojin was trending #1 (now #2) because of this incident with many locals chiming in. Now there's more tweets saying Jungwoo from NCT could possibly have sexually assaulted others as well (possibly on the same day when he was with Woojin). I remember Jungwoo taking an extended absences when Woojin left too.
He was kicked out
Welp now we found out he got kicked out
Doie's Smile yeah, it makes Chan’s “stays know what I mean” hit different
honestly even though the rumors were fake, i still think something bad happened between them and i don't think they ended in good terms, like, chan would've never said something like this if woojin actually left for personal reasons, like idk family issues or mental health issues, chan seems to be really disappointed.
Ikr He ruined bang chans image and this made bang chan blame himself Felix and Minho needs to reassure their leader taht it's not his fault. Jeongin was hurt. Hyunjin cried Jisung leaved the room after hearing that woo come to club that is not legal to do as an idol Seungmin wants to fight woo and Minho and Changbin can't even look at woo idk but u think he. Did a lot of bad things off cam to skz
same the rumors were fake but i just don't trust him anymore. i supported him even after his departure but this statements coming from chan just hits me into reality then. chan was like implying he was selfish for leaving the group. to think that they had an announced concert and cb before the news. they had to start again, re-record astronaut, levanter, the whole album and practice from the start for the concert. the stay in london photobook too has to be edited that time and everything was rescheduled. they only have barely two months to prepare everything, the cb and concert. they rushed things and it was physically and mentally challenging for them, judging from their ments at their concert. i had a hunch why he left and i will just keep it to myself lol chan was saying here that he did a lot of mistakes that resulted to his departure and ended up affecting the group and the company staffs as well (i think). i just know that he wasn't kicked out but left on his own will. think what's his "personal reason" to leave in the middle of their busy schedule. that's what i understand in the whole wj departure situation. if u read this damn long essay, thank u heh
edit: wait no. chan said he had to face the worst consequences? was he forced to leave i mean was jyp told him to leave voluntarily than kicking him out for the media? nevertheless idc anymore haha if he left in the middle of a contract, there's two meanings. it's either he did something that is forbidden in the contract or the company did something which is against on his own will like kris, luhan and tao departure but nah
@@cz3393 yeah right i feel the same what i feel is not even about the rumors anymore it's about how he just left and well all you just said
@@cz3393 Ok wow you put into words what I've been thinking about this. It also reminds me so so much about Kris' departure from EXO right before Exoplanet & in the middle of promotions. Junmyeon accepting the price on his own and how drained the guys looked in the first shows. Like come on, ik one can be tired or having fucked up but to leave and just... leaving all your teammates to rearrange & overwork themselves for your selfishness is beyond me like please have some respect 😭
Glad they could overcome it though
@@victoriasamuels587 well there must be a reason why they didn't try standing up for him like they did with hyunjin, don't you think?? 🥴
they worked so hard to debut together, they went through so much and he just left
moral of the story: you don't know idols personally.
stop defending idols, you're a human before a kpop stan grow up, they don't even know you...
IKR
THIS.
cant believe people attacked him for this and felix for putting #8 in his ig captions...theyve been giving us hints all this time :/
omg even when felix messed up saying he has 7 brothers in skz (the australia show speech) like he rly messed up on purpose on accident lmao. his subconscious dont lie
I realized this once again that Chan is someone with such a great personality. He is always open abbt his feelings, social butterfly, leader etc.
"Thinks about himself"
"Selfish"
"Betrayal"
"Stays know what I mean"
Woojin was always like so quiet and u couldn't even tell he was there
Edit:I just wanna say that some people read my comment wrong and have replied with rude shit so I'm going to explain what I meant.
The first words were what chan said and they just really hit me.
Second thing was my opinion when he was on camera. He wasn't active when they were on camera like he was really quiet and like I bearly noticed that he left and I don't mean that in any rude way bc he was actually my bias right before he left.
I think bang chan was dissapointed because woojin was so important to him and maybe that's why he said that. also this decision affect the group and chan is the lider so.. We need to understand how does he feel.
@Sofia Brylunova yeah omg it's nearly been a year
Lol you don't even know woojin outside camera, so you can't really compare what YOU see on their content with Bang chan's opinions considering he's personally known and lived with this person
I'm scared now
This didnt end well
1:00
"...so don't be THAT PERSON"
😶 Understanding that mean
yeah don't be like him.💔
While he didn’t say Woojin’s name, I think there is a lot of his words in where he was trying to get the audience to understand that he was the person that Chan was talking about. The fact that he said that “I can’t go into too much detail about it” and “Stays will know what I’m talking about” makes it seem like he really really wants to tell us what happened but he’s forced to keep quiet.
As a Stay, It's sad to feel like Stray kids and Woojin aren't in good terms. They were a team but now it feels like they are a stranger to each other. I just hope to see them together in the future not as a group but as friends that once they've been.
Shannen Eira Tamayo yes...if its really true that woojin quit cause of personal reasons...then why skz and woojin seems like strangers..and woojin leaving the group causing skz to be really messed up at that time and woojin never even said sorry to fans...Butim not blaming woojin or skz cause all of them are still young and have a long journey ahead..but its sad to see them like strangers
I really don't wanna break your bubble but A LOT of kpop idols in groups aren't really friends it might look like it when you watch their videos but that doesn't mean they are like that in real live.
jdgrande yeah but i think most idols are friends but most idol prolly are not BFF...i meant cause most idols spent a lot of time as trainee and if they got into a group so they must achieve that understanding..Making it short i believe most idols in a group are at least friends but not bffs cause of the trainee time they spent..but its just sad to see woojin and skz like strangers especially when someone follow the even before their debut
Delpy Naomine who did the sexual harassment?
@@zeneunoia woojin
The strongest leader I've ever seen, they've been really hurt, I'm so happy to see them getting happier now
To imagine Chan was writing and producing songs at all hours, working his ass off, trying to take care of his members, getting bullshit hate AND had to deal with Woojin.... No wonder he had those nosebleeds. I just.... I just wanna hug him. We all know that when Chan gets down to business he can be a hard ass but he's like that because wants everyone around him to do their best. I just... I wish I could tell him how proud I am of him and hug him forever
this is my fav comment ever :((
Me too, let's all give him a virtual hug. ❤✨
No because imagine like a lot of people around the world giving stray kids a big hug, they'll probably end up dead HAHHAHAH😂
Where did he get nosebleeds? :O
@@mingissilentlaugh in a vlive they played board games.
his face tell it all, he's disapponted
his statement makes a lot of sense, he keeps talking about how actions can affect the people around you and it just makes so much sense. and the “betrayal” part just makes so much sense. this is heartbreaking.
Poor baby..they probably endured a lot and he looks like he wants to go off but he’s holding himself back for the sake of the rest of the members and their careers❤️❤️
NONE of us know, or will EVER truly know, what woojin did, but we all know it must have been something bad for him to leave right before a comeback like that, and for jyp to edit him out of literally everything, and rerecord the songs. however, Stray Kids has been 8 longer than it has been 9 now, so i think we should just leave it at that and not bring up woojin when talking about skz
yes I agree with you
Yeah I agree they are Officialy 8 now so we should forget about woojin when talking straykids for the best
I think he left cuz of the rumors instead of staying that's why they were hurt
i take back all the times ive said "nine or none" from now on its EIGHT IS FATE
Oh i like that , lets keep saying it 😀👍👍
#8isfate
Moral of the story: believe and trust chan
i feel bad for bangchan. he created his team and worked hard to make them debut as 9. it's so sad to think that woojin did that.
who’s here after the tweets? it all makes sense imo especially w the words he said
“Can’t give too much detail…stays know what I mean” it’s obvious he’s talking about him. 🥺
Stray Kids is 8
Christopher Bang
Lee Minho
Seo Changbin
Hwang Hyunjin
Han Jisung
Lee Felix
Kim Seungmin
Yang Jeongin
“It’s all good now” -Felix in Levanter
Chris didn't choose woojin over Alen and Yao Chen and other trainees just to be like this
Chris didn't write all of those songs just to be turned into jokes by woojin
Going back to this now. Woojin i am so damn disappointed. I can't imagine the betrayal and disappointment the members and jyp staffs felt because of him.
We can’t trust anyone💔
GOT7 IS MY RELIGION i just hope none of the current members of skz are into this 😭
now I'm really glad that they're treating him like stranger.
he must’ve messed up bad
he must be. you can see from chan's words
he really must've. you can see it from both chan's reaction and how fast he left.
maya rothová also how fast jyp terminated his contract....jyp doesn’t terminate contracts that often....in jyp history they terminated 2pm jay park due to his hating scandal on Koreans, day6 junhyeok for dating a fan....and jyp have a dating ban for 3 years it’s not written in the contract but it’s just a trust between the agency and the members...and lastly woojin...
yeah..
he really did..
put it all together and it makes so much sense now
it hits different when ur watching this knowing the truth
this video makes so much more sense now.
watching this makes my heart so 💔
STRAY KIDS ONLY HAS 8 MEMBERS.
YESSS
Period
It’s the “stays know what I mean” for me. Ily channie❤
Thank you Chan for warning us
knowing what happened on twitter today,, things are starting to make more sense. stray kids and woojin are not on good terms and probably never will be and if the situation with woojin is confirmed to be 100% true,, he needs to be jailed
This hits even more different now because of the stuff that just came up and im truly speechless and sad
Chan must have been trying his hardest and probably still now holding his anger in.
we only have faith in 8 and just *8*
I'm sorry to say this but in my opinion Woojin didn't left because of mental/phisical health but some other reason. Like come on, Chan wouldn't used words like "betray" "mistakes" "actions and decisons" and "selfish" if it would involve Woojin's health - it's obvious... If it was it, he could take some time like other artists for ex. Mina and boys would be supportive - we know how mental health is important to them. It must to be something different. He had to do something that is prohibited and by doing it he broke some rules, this coused his departure and affected whole group. It could be dating, smoking weed or anything else that he shouldn't do. THIS ARE ONLY EXAMPLES SO DON'T COME AT ME.
You can clearly see Chan's disappointment and hurt and I'm not surprised... "9 or none"... He's the leader, he choose them and then one "betrayed" him. Sad.
you like- kinda might have predicted somethin
Worse than those reasons...
It's deeper girl if u know wat i mean.
damn in just some hours huh....
Damn you were right.. kinda right
omfg i see it now... damn. it rlly is him.
it hurts- it hurts so bad
kez he had us deceived damn.
mel i know- i really wanted to believe he left for any other reason but it’s all coming together against him and i even feel betrayed
kez i started stanning skz a month after he left but i wanted to learn ab him. it seems like after he left, skz tried to enforce that they were 8 and i see why now. i wouldn't want to be associated with a monster like him.
mel ur right, i stanned since the survival show and they were all so close, seeing they kinda ended on bad terms when he left shocked me. that’s when i knew it couldn’t be a physical mental or family issue because skz would never blame him for that. but now it all makes sense and it makes me feel sick
Just my theory I feel like woojin talked a leaving in miroh era cuz you can see he is really quiet about that but straykids somehow convinced him into staying just for a few months hoping that would stay with them but he still didn’t want to stay. And something was off about the last weekly idol like no one went to woojin team.
And this is just a theory though
you've got a nice theory tho. Maybe they felt something wrong that's why
Just my theory, and I do not intend to offend anyone, but I think the boys had a fight or misunderstanding that led Woojin to leave the group. Chan was talking about decisions and such, maybe because he thinks Woojin made an irrational decision of leaving the group, that they could've just settle it. Just my hunch and I thought no one will come at me.
.. im really sad rn... ;c
Yeah I honestly think it was a big misunderstanding that never got resolved. Especially the way he talks about Woojin make it sound like he doesn't understand why he left and thinks he did it for nothing.
:( I'm sure Woojin had his reasons and I sure he had more than one but it makes me sad how everyone's sad ;-; it kinda seems like Woojin kept everything to himself and then when he left no one knew why... Poor Woojin, Bang Chan, and everyone 😢
@@exoandbtsneedacollabtodisi3956 :< the members do know the reason... don't they?
Tch Hyunjin's Hairband yea I’m pretty sure they know why he left but they don’t want all the drama behind the scenes in the public’s eye... at least that’s what I’m assuming.
@@gxld_599 yeah
I feel so bad for Chan.
Imagine you are trained for a long time seeing your dormmate one by one has debuted, be the leader since before debuted to sorting the best among the best members, and carrying a whole group in your shoulders :(
Chan looked so sad here...I understand now...he really did his best to try to hint it to us...
Stray Kids only has eight members and only eight.
when he said dont be selfish i started crying i feel that they are starangers to eachother now and they fought aftr this i wish woojin is ok and channie aswell as the rest of the group and all stays ofc we love you stray kids we love you woojin
You can hear how mad chan sounds with the passive aggression in his words
i don't know who to trust anymore, but i believe in chan, i trust him. though i still wish and hope that woojin will never do such thing, if he really does, i'm so disappointed.
Bangchan best boy
who's here after hearing about the woojin scandal
man this hits way more different now
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yeah so um- it all makes sense now. gosh imagine how skz must've felt when they saw us stays supporting woojin not knowing what hes really like.
seungmin main vocalist 😁
it makes so much sense now
I really the WJ situation doesn’t ruin anything for the SKZ. Not just the comeback next week, but their birthdays as well. Last year he really messed up LK birthday and it sucks that there is a possibility that it could ruin JS, FL and SM’s birthday as well. But in the end, the news needs to be released for justice to be served :(
Wait, how did he mess up LK’s birthday? I am sorry I am kinda new so I don’t know a lot of things.
Yeah i really wanna know bc lee know is my favorite :( what did he do to him
Meri Hovhannisyan the news of WJ leaving was 3 days after LK’s birthday . the whole week, the boys did not post anything and wasn’t active online. there were no posts about LK’s birthday or any vlive celebrations like they always do. it’s because he was leaving the group and the boys wasn’t in the mood to hold a birthday party .
amirah :0000
Look at this now 10 months ago it’s been a while Skz is better then ever now 😭
In light of recent event, i dont like how chan talked about this.....it looks like hes more disappointed in woojin breaking the rules EXPOSING the rest of the group to bad fame instead of being disappointed in him because what he did was wrong. He keeps talking about responsabilities and duties towards the team instead of just correct behaviour, but i guess he was just forced to not expose the real events because of the agency....so he worded them wrongly....i dont blame him tho, i respect bangchan a lot for what he had to go through, i cant imagine the struggle to not reveal anything, knowing that us stay could still be in danger by supporting woojin's solo career. Im disappointed in jyp for not saying anything tho.
EDIT: im still keeping up the news, someone in the comment made me notice that the events most probably occured AFTER w. left the agency, so Chan here was adressing something that wasnt the sex*al assault. If this is true i take back everything i said in the comment earlier; im not here to discredict bagnchan as a leader or a person in general, i love stray kidz and chan a whole lot, i and always will support all 8 of them.
But if I'm not mistaken, the alleged sexual assault thing happened AFTER Woojin left Stray Kids and JYP Entertainment. The most probable reason his contract got terminated was because he went to prostitution/sketchy(ones with only female servers to cater to men) bars/clubs, which is prohibited for JYP Entertainment artists and staff - I think this is what Chan meant when he said 'with the decisions and choices he made'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I read somewhere. And I think it wasn't JYP's or Stray Kids' place to talk about what happened after he left, and they might not have known about the sexual assault either.
I don't know what more you expected of Chan. He addressed it as well as he could, at the end of the day this responsibility shouldn't have even been left upon his shoulders. Chan did the best he could and was probably silenced. I still remember how everyone attacked Chan from the time of Woojins departure to now.
Woojin is in the wrong, SKZ and Chan are not to blame for his presumed actions and the victims of said actions should not be invalidated ~ Woojin's time to speak is now.
@@rikiduckzz im still keeping up with the news, i wasnt sure if that happened before or after! My mistake, i should have paid more attention. If this happened after, i take back everything i said on the comment, and totally agree with you.
@@immyrichie14 i dont blame him for this, it was a real tough time and he probably wasnt very aware of himself, since he was very hurt and broken for what woojin did not only to him but the rest of the team (bangchan himself being very selfless and focusing more on others feelings rather than his) + the fact that the agency definetely forbidded him to talk about it. But i still think he adressed the minor problem (again, not blaming him).
Can confirm that it happened after! In the post by OP she specified that he was a FORMER member and that he was using his FORMER group's name a lot. She also said went out to a bar when they shouldn't have because of COVID - which happened after he left.
Apparently the 'mistake' being referred to here is how Woojin used to go to sketchy bars with 'female-only' waitresses - which is against JYPs rules.
It all make sense now, Imagine how hurt chan was, and how hurt he is rn, a great leader indeeed.
Blows my mind that people can turn into monsters:/ im sorry chan, im sorry skz
yep i’m here because something blow up
I trust Chan 100%. Something else happened that we don’t know about but they are happy now and that’s all that matters. They are re comfortable and open. I trust them
now we know what happened....
#stay #believe #IN #straykids #8
STRAYKIDS EIGHT OR NONE
HE WAS WARNING US THE WHOLE TIME
everything makes sense now.
Now when listening to this, it hits different
props to him for staying so damn calm and clear minded after all that was happening off camera. what they were all going through, and we had no clue because they couldnt tell us. i love bangchan and skz even more now
can’t believe he did that and i remember watching this video wondering what he was rlly upset about. makes so much sense
SKZ OT8
skz are eight members, periodt.
This all adds up now ...
skz is growing so fast now without woojin :”
it ALL makes sense now
his discussion makes so much sense now after the allegations...
who come here after the news about woojin at twitter :)
And back then some sTaYs had been bashing chan for saying these things 😡 open your fucking eyes now
I joined stay fandom a couple months ago when woojin already left so i dont know how it felt like for you guys when he left but i feel sorry for all the stays and straykids member who had to go through that.
Edit: i take this back, im not sorry that he left the group, ik sorry for straykids who had to go through that knowing everything and they were not able to say anything, it must have been hard for them.
@@Dorimoritaytay idc about him wether he is inno or not he’s not part of skz and i stan ot8 only
@@stayracha1391 💀fuck this fandom
Now I understand what he is saying
Wow- You can hear the hurt in his voice, I cant beleive he put so much trust into him just to get this- and now finding out he abused his members, Chan must be sooo disappointed and disgusted
now, this all really adds up....
Now after the news that hits different maybe they knew as well
This ia the third time i have seen this but the impact now seems to hit me differently😩😩
He told us :(
"So dont be that person" I feel him.
Stray Kids has officially 8 members now, but please don't forget that they started as STRAY KIDS and fight against each challenge with 9 members. SUPPORT EVERYONE AND KEEP SAFE.
STRAY KIDS ARE 9!
BANGCHAN
IN
HAN
CHANGBIN
FELIX
HYUNJIN
LEE KNOW
SEUNGMIN
AND STAYS
You got me for a second
You got me, I had to read that a few times
Bang Chan is so wise beyond his years. I feel bad for him as leader to be put in this position.
Yeah this hits differently now :/
poor bangchan 🥺 he loved his members so much and for woojin to do something this pathetic???? definitely betrayal :((((
and to thinks some stays got mad a Chan because of this...
Hmm Woojin who's that? A brand of a trash can?
8 or none.
The way this makes sense now.
ya know what hurts me ?
bang chan don't even look at the camera/phone when he's talking like he's really sad (?) if that's the right word to say (?) but hey
we all make mistakes . its fine
we do all make mistakes at sme point. but in this case, it's not a mistake.