Very much like Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Homes Edward Petherbridge really is the man. You have no notion of acting but rather of being. Superb series. England really is in a class of it's own when it comes to series like this.
It’s a pity several strands of the story had to be cut eg the story relating to St George and the scene in the antique shop. It would be good to see a longer adaptation with main actors as excellent as EP, HW and RM.
The whole series is a joy.... Excellent writing and the acting of these stories superb in every way... Together with the filming and all of those involved.. Thankyou
Love the series. Of course both Lord Peter and Harriet came prepared with their appropriate “whites and hats” for punting on the river. Perfection all around.
Not all the punting episode was included, though. The film has been edited and shortened, not sure why. I have noticed that in other films that are re-run here or on their original venue.
The casting is superb across the board. I almost believe that the fellows, the academics, are all genuinely members of the college. They imbue the roles with a sense of reality. Excellent acting.
I find it hard to believe that this is the type of conversation the dons would have on a regular basis. Something of their humanity was very absent from them. I think the scout Annie gave them a deserved dressing down. They knew nothing about life outside the four walls of their college and I was happy to hear Miss Divine acknowledge that, after the whole thing was uncovered. Lots of great messages and wisdom in this series. Thanks for sharing.
@@Failte630 Depending on the occasion, academics can and do talk this way. Some of their conversation is sincere and profound; some is pretentious one-upmanship.
@@sarahsnowe Having been in academia, I have seen much meaner people, but never such embarrassing pretentiousness. I turned off the sound for some of it.
I do wish whoever writes the closed captions would have a better grasp of English as spoken by the English. Or whatever 'voice recognition" app could do that.
I'm something of an Anglophile; and I discovered Lord Peter many years ago. I've read most of Dorothy Sayers' books with pleasure. As usual, the book is better than the movie; but this series is a wonderful dramatization. I love the witty dialogue; and the beautiful, sensitive filming of Peter and Harriet's growing love for each other is just precious. Thank you!
Just recently discovered this series. Phenomenal!!!! The chemistry between Petherbridge and Walter is a pleasure to watch. And Richard Morant is perfectly cast as Bunker. Splendid series. Now that I've seen this don't know if I want to see any others. I can't imagine Lord Peter portrayed by anyone but Petherbridge.
I remember first seeing her in an episode of midsummer murders where she explains orchids in a most explicit sexual way...love her voice and her nuances. She is very young here and you can already see her complete control of acting. Adored this series very much and happened on it by accident.
@@tracyvandermerwe3265……Dame Harriet Walter is an excellent actress, both on stage, & in films/tv shows’. Latterly, she was in ‘Downton Abbey’, & in a wonderful production of ‘Macbeth’, as Lady Nacbeth…………
No sex, no profanity, no overacting, no straying away from the story to spice it up, just great story and immaculate acting. Why cant we still do this now??????????????
@@davidhull1481 Yes, I agree, however in their defence, this production represents the plain mystery, which has been extracted from the greater novel. I expect there were budget and time constraints, which is sad, as the novel is beautiful.
I love, love, love how Lord Peter shows the depth of his erudition in even small and casual remarks. When he plays the organ for Harriet, he says "Music for a while / do all your cares beguile". That is actually the title of a stunningly beautiful song by Henry Purcell from the Baroque period. (If you want to hear it, I strongly recommend the version by Brandon Acker and Reginald Mobley)
This cast was excellent, I wish they had made more than 3 I believe I found some that are older than these , and I want to get the audio books Loved the fact that they made an excellent miniseries with no profanity, no sex, no body parts showing. Just excellent dialog and acting !! Why can't they make quality movies/TV shows like that now days.
Because it has all been by design - behind the curtain, so to speak. Jesuit infiltration to change & mold culture to fit their agenda. The real controversy between good and evil has been and still is being played out on the world’s stage.
Sir Peter never looked so loveable and ordinarily attractive as he did in the boat when they were parked along the bank, talking. He plays his role to the max and owns it.
Peggy Postma - I would have preferred a SPOILER ALERT at the beginning of your sentence. Just something you might think about before posting in the future as a courtesy to other viewers. Thank you...
@@springsogourne I'm sure many people do comment afterwards. Unfortunately I have the reprehensible habit of reading the comments first :-) But then it really is my own fault if I encounter any spoilers.
Although this is very good, especially in the casting of female dons, I really wish that this novel could have had a more in-depth dramatization....the themes are so complex that it loses so much when huge blocks need to be excised due to a budget and time constraints. “Have His Carcase” is not really in the same league as “Gaudy Night,” being so much shorter in length and utilizing significantly fewer actors, so that little was lost in the four episodes produced. I love the subplots of Wimsey’s jealousy when his nephew and another undergraduate (Pomfet) take a shine to Harriet, the gift of the chessmen, and the incident of the dog collar that ended up saving Harriet’s life, and also the fuller characterizations of the female dons. Another four episodes-or six!-would have produced a much better, more developed story, but I suppose I should be happy that this was done at all....Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter were excellent casting choices!
How delightfully refreshing! Superb! My only lament is that there are only three instalemnts in this series to enjoy. Beyond the phenomenal story, fantastic script, and pitch-perfect acting, that was perhaps one of the best portrayals of plausible romantic tensions between two characters with such obvious chemistry, concluding with a most joyous and satisfying resolution.
It is so relaxing to watch a mystery TV series where there is not too much action, but a lot of thinking! Time seems to be more human in british television, in american TV series everything seems suitable for a robot or a super hero.
Great irony in some of the comments above. In her day, Dorothy Sayers was what Americans would call "a liberal". Very much an independent woman. If conservative thinkers in US today feel reassured by her stories, it is because they happened in another era, long, long ago. No doubt she shocked conservatives in the 1930s. 😅
Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful episodes! The richness of location, the use of the English language, the life style of the rich but not snobbish individuals involved and the love interest made a person use their cerebral intellect to another place and time is simply lovely!
It is really rather wonderful that Harriet Vane finally decides to stop all of her silly avoidance techniques and agrees to marry Lord Peter Wimsey! He does adore her and they make a delightful couple! He finally decided to go all in and she reciprocated! It made me cry. I wish my wife would come back to me!
I think it would be almost impossible to better the casting of Edward Petherbridge, Harriet Vane and Richard Morant (the late lamented who was the right age but who always looked younger). How I wish Busman's Honeymoon and the later books by Jill Paton Walsh could be televised. The quality of the language is of the highest and with no recourse to profanities or swear words.
I understand that Edward Petherbridge and his (actual) wife were the main characters in the play of Busman's Honeymoon. However, for some reason the BBC was unable to obtain the film rights for the book/play. Such a shame -- it would really complete the set!
Kyre Adept it had to do with the film rights still being bound up with that awful movie that was made in the forties starring, I think it was Robert Montgomery.
And the erudition and academic scholarship - in this one series how many references to academia and literature. Nothing nowhere near today and yes as below comment, before the active assualt on the dumbing down of America and the world.
Thank you very much. I thoroughly enjoyed the series, being a fan of Dorothy L Sayers. It's been very much appreciated. Great acting, intelligent dialogue; the whole works.
Thank you. I wondered throughout how it would end for Lord Peter and Vane, and finally it indicates. I much prefer this Lord Peter to the other one, which I stopped watching. Fabulous series. Hated to see it end.
Personal opinion, he is not as convincing as the Ian Carmichael interpretation which was far more natural, this interpretation you can not imagine the previous mysteries being conducted as they were, he fits for the tormented lover but not the full character Wimsey is supposed to be.
I was too young for the Ian Carmichael series but from what I’ve read, Edward Petherbridge is a closer match to the character IMO. And Harriet Walter is terrific! So wish there had been more stories this team could have done together! This one is my favorite!
Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter are both impeccably cast. I like Ian Carmichael, who was superb in many comedy films, but Edward Petherbridge brings an intelligence combined with nerves on edge emotion to the role in his pursuit of Harriet that is sheer perfection, and Harriet Walter isn't pretty pretty, which would be awful, and combines looks and intelligence so that you can see why Peter Wimsey loved her so deeply.
@clandestienfilm I adore this series. Harriet says that Lord Peter isn't much to look at. They should have chosen a different actor to make her statement believable.😀 Occasionally, I need to revisit Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane. To me, they have become old friends (who never age). Thank you very much for uploading this wonderful production. Sending greetings and love from Slovenia❤
18:50 "...the only principle that has made science possible is the ethical one, that the truth must be told at all times and if we do not penalize false statements made in error, then we open up the way for false statements made by intent,... and a false statement made by intent is the most serious crime a scientist can commit." This statement does bring up the treacherous times we are living in now, does it not?!
@@pat.path-t1846 try telling the Obama's the bidens and the clintons that. you people can't even clean up your own cities much less the planet. Politics ruins everything. You probably think the great reset is a good idea.
Such a pity that they could not devote 4 episodes to this novel, as they did with the others. Much is omitted. I know that EP was very frustrated by the adaptation. That said, it's a joy to watch these actors. Thank you
t's a shame they never included Busman's Honeymoon into the series, where they finally get married. Why in the world would they stop just short of the final prize everyone wanted to see
When will PBS do the entire series? They are doing the Forsyth saga again and Agatha Christie always has one or two new versions coming out. Let’s give Dorothy a chance!!!
Top level of film making acting music and much more . Watching this and other crimes from the same decades that was made without the internet or special effects its pure enjoyment. How much I dislike the movies today pure waits of time
@@Roheryn100 Yes, indeed. Female readers of course assume that we all know the answer, "Reader, I married him!" Because Lord Peter was clearly a fox. Sayers wrote a very interesting nonfiction book called The Mind of the Maker, in which she said that in creating anything, the writer or artist echoes the actual Creator and has three parts tat are inherent in the act of artistic or literary creation: The person who is doing the writing (or composition or painting or whatever) in real time, that is analogous to God the Father, the work as it is being created, the pages of the book getting typed up or the piano performance as it is performed, which is somehow analogous to God the Son who had a real life on Earth, and then the life that the work goes on to have in the minds of the readers or audience, which Sayers said was analogous to God the Holy Spirit. It made as much sense of the Trinity as I've ever heard anyone make of it, being a mere layperson, myself. I wonder whether any other artists or writers think she had a good point, or whether her point of view was relevant only to herself and her own creative efforts but doesn't at all reflect the way other writers and creative artists experience the act of artistic or literary creativity. However, none of my current friends are actual artists or writers, so I can't ask them what they think of it, whether or not they think Sayers views on creativity are accurate descriptions of their own experiences as writers or artists.
Total vindication for Lord Peter wimsey! Miss vane true to her word burns away like straw in the face of true love and relents knowing ! Her surrender is sweeter than her victory! 48:00
clandestienfilm thank you very much indeed for sharing this. And I like your photo, it's the cover from Agatha Christie's "Crooked House" :-) Those cover paintings by Tom Adams were brilliant, it's a great pity that they've stopped using them. But what a lovely ending, "bring your scholar's mind to the question and be true to yourself"! Good on Miss Devine, she phrased it in exactly the right way to help Harriet over that last hurdle.
Heavens! No comments in 3 years! The world is missing out on a gem! BTW, the synch between audio and video breaks down near the end. Unfortunate, for that is the moment we've all been waiting for. Thanks again.
A great episode. Lord Peter shows up near the end of Episode 2 and teams up withMiss Vane to crack the case and her icy heart? The conclusion of this is very educational.
How can she not love him? Oh, the way looks at her and loves and accepts her just as she is! You may think that is owed to us, and as far as respect goes, I agree. But love, real love, is quite another matter.
Really enjoyed this series. I am partial to the British detective genre. I own collections of Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Brett), Poirot and Cadfael. Always enjoyed this time period as well. I also kept wondering who Edward Petherbridge reminded me of and finally in this episode got it. It is John Newland of One Step Beyond fame.
Quality is the first word that comes to mind. Thoroughly enjoyable to hear well spoken English . In a world that to speak with an accent is considered ' in' dropping letters and the common touch is "IN" . Deplorable .
I agree with you about the English. Nowadays that language is almost invariably mangled by anglophones and non-anglophones alike. But Lord Peter does drop the 'n' at the end of many words.
There are two more in the Lord Peter / Harriet series: Strong Poison and Have his Carcase, both here on RUclips. But you should have watched them in the right order!
There is a very distinct order to the four Harriet Vane novels. From when he meets her, to when he courts her, to when he marries her. Jill Paton Walsh goes on with them as a married couple, very much in the Sayers spirit.
……having read all of Dorothy L Sayers ‘Lord Peter Wimsey’ books’, am loving this tv version of a few of the stories’. Cosy crime to the nth degree, imho……… 🇦🇺
The question remains: of all the people responsible for her husband's fate - why is it only the woman that is to blame? He (a man) chose to submit a false paper because he was too lazy too redo it. Then his academic circle (also men) chose to expel him for it. Then he chose to kill himself rather than accept the setback and carry on (rather like how he chose to submit a false paper rather than accept that he needed to redo it). Of all those involved, the woman had the least involvement in the situation - she simply told the truth. Why doesn't Annie resent anyone else involved in her husband's disgrace? If a man had discovered the fraud, would she have hated him the same way? The irony is that she accuses the female Dons of being unnatural and deranged, but it's she who is insane and hateful while they - though they have their quirks and quarrels - are all reasonably well-adjusted.
Your remark is the most sensible of all here. Nevertheless, his wife did suffer grief, and in her simplicity, sought to blame someone other than her husband, to whom she had undying loyalty. She came to represent retrograde womanhood, yet her values were strong, just traditional and misguided toward pathology, probably due to her own personal nature's being extreme. As for the ladies of Oxford, the academic world overall is sniping and competitive. This tendency becomes a habit. It's easy to forget the other aspects of life when one is so focused (with a real passion) on the life of the intellect. It is important to the world, and those who live it sacrifice other things, certainly. They are the Athenas to Annie's Juno.
@@harmoniabalanza In fact there are a lot of women who want a storybook romance with prince charming, and when years of living with him show that he was not that, they will blame everyone but him. Annie has a lot of company in her views.
That is because Annie represents a very traditional view of women and a wife's role that was incredibly widespread and the dominant cultural narrative at the time (and still is in many conservative groups now). The woman gets married, raises the children, helps her husband whenever possible, and he is the primary breadwinner. Since Annie didn't value the intellectual life, except as it supplied her husband with an income, from her point of view Miss deVine provided the precipitating incident leading to her husband's death. It is also possible that if she had managed to kill Miss deVine and escape detection that she would have decided someone else also needed to be punished. The reason that this particular mystery plot was used was because it was central to the question of Harriet's marriage. I don't remember if it was left in the TV adaptation but at one point during Peter's first dinner at the college, he is asked his opinion on the woman question (meaning should woman go to college) and he implies it shouldn't even be a question at this point nor should they imply he (a man) has a right to offer an opinion on the subject. Most of the book (either in actual events or as a theoretical discussion) deals with contemporary arguments that learning unfits women for marriage and discussion about whether it is better to try to be domestic yourself or earn money at a job you are good at and then pay money to someone good at domestic science to keep house for you, etc. Aside from the fact that Sayers was including an issue of contemporary debate, it was also necessary for Harriet's change in her willingness to marry Peter. She knows Peter is smart, rich, and she is attracted to him but that and the laws of the time give him all the power. This was written before women could have a separate legal and financial identity beyond their husbands'. She is reassured through the events in the book that Peter will allow her to continue the job she is good at (writing mysteries), not suddenly demand she fit the traditional ideal of a domestic wife, that his views of an ideal marriage actually correspond to her own (in earlier books they never really got beyond her rejection of each proposal), that he will let her take reasonable risks, etc. They also go back to the root causes of their actions at time when he first started proposing and deal with them and what has changed since then. This is why I commented elsewhere that the adaptation butchers the romance. They didn't keep enough of the philosophical discussions and interior monologues for someone who hasn't read the book to really follow why Harriet changed her mind.
In listening to the book on audio, it was probably my favorite. Although Annie is a classic example of "the misogyny coming from inside the house," she also makes a spirited argument for intersectionalism that seems absent in this adaptation: That education and independence from men is a *privilege* of these well-heeled ladies who frequently disregard the demands on working women. (Which makes her despite of Harriet, who singularly notices her and talks to her as a peer, even more striking)
Loved this series story line is a bit weaker than the others but the love interest compensated ,a happy ending ,excellent made for the role casting would love to see more
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Very much like Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Homes Edward Petherbridge really is the man. You have no notion of acting but rather of being.
Superb series. England really is in a class of it's own when it comes to series like this.
and also in a class of its own when it comes to teaching punctuation. At least back then.
It's a shame they only made three of the books in the series. This cast was brilliant.
It’s a pity several strands of the story had to be cut eg the story relating to St George and the scene in the antique shop. It would be good to see a longer adaptation with main actors as excellent as EP, HW and RM.
The whole series is a joy.... Excellent writing and the acting of these stories superb in every way... Together with the filming and all of those involved.. Thankyou
Yes, some of the best I've ever seen. This last episode was remarkable!
Love the series. Of course both Lord Peter and Harriet came prepared with their appropriate “whites and hats” for punting on the river. Perfection all around.
Not all the punting episode was included, though. The film has been edited and shortened, not sure why. I have noticed that in other films that are re-run here or on their original venue.
The casting is superb across the board. I almost believe that the fellows, the academics, are all genuinely members of the college. They imbue the roles with a sense of reality. Excellent acting.
The academic banter amongst the college women is priceless! Watching from Wyoming-Thank You!😷
I used to call Wyoming home, my heart still does! What part are you from?
I find it hard to believe that this is the type of conversation the dons would have on a regular basis. Something of their humanity was very absent from them. I think the scout Annie gave them a deserved dressing down. They knew nothing about life outside the four walls of their college and I was happy to hear Miss Divine acknowledge that, after the whole thing was uncovered. Lots of great messages and wisdom in this series. Thanks for sharing.
@@Failte630 Depending on the occasion, academics can and do talk this way. Some of their conversation is sincere and profound; some is pretentious one-upmanship.
@@sarahsnowe Having been in academia, I have seen much meaner people, but never such embarrassing pretentiousness. I turned off the sound for some of it.
I absolutely love the conversations in this series--no dumbing down the dialogue.
In the book Lord Peter proposes to Harriet in Latin, and she answers in Latin. Does that count as dumbing down?
@@vronlace I love that ending. The whole book is a treat.
@@vronlace that counts as translation. :P
I do wish whoever writes the closed captions would have a better grasp of English as spoken by the English. Or whatever 'voice recognition" app could do that.
Delightful. Thank you.
I'm something of an Anglophile; and I discovered Lord Peter many years ago. I've read most of Dorothy Sayers' books with pleasure. As usual, the book is better than the movie; but this series is a wonderful dramatization. I love the witty dialogue; and the beautiful, sensitive filming of Peter and Harriet's growing love for each other is just precious. Thank you!
I completely agree!!! 👍👏
It's a shame they didn't make more of these movies😢
@@missysgarden I have often thought so.😕 We'll have to be satisfied with the novels and short stories. My favorite was "Busman's Honeymoon".
Just recently discovered this series. Phenomenal!!!! The chemistry between Petherbridge and Walter is a pleasure to watch. And Richard Morant is perfectly cast as Bunker. Splendid series. Now that I've seen this don't know if I want to see any others. I can't imagine Lord Peter portrayed by anyone but Petherbridge.
I love both versions - Ian Carmichael and Petherbridge.
Bunter.
I remember first seeing her in an episode of midsummer murders where she explains orchids in a most explicit sexual way...love her voice and her nuances. She is very young here and you can already see her complete control of acting. Adored this series very much and happened on it by accident.
I had such a crush on Edward Petherbridge when this first came out. sigh...
@@tracyvandermerwe3265……Dame Harriet Walter is an excellent actress, both on stage, & in films/tv shows’. Latterly, she was in ‘Downton Abbey’, & in a wonderful production of ‘Macbeth’, as Lady Nacbeth…………
No sex, no profanity, no overacting, no straying away from the story to spice it up, just great story and immaculate acting. Why cant we still do this now??????????????
They did butcher the story
@@davidhull1481 Yes, I agree, however in their defence, this production represents the plain mystery, which has been extracted from the greater novel. I expect there were budget and time constraints, which is sad, as the novel is beautiful.
I could not agree more.
Why cant people stop saying the same thing every twenty years ....sigh tango6nf you are a bore at least be original when talking silly
SIN.
I love, love, love how Lord Peter shows the depth of his erudition in even small and casual remarks. When he plays the organ for Harriet, he says "Music for a while / do all your cares beguile". That is actually the title of a stunningly beautiful song by Henry Purcell from the Baroque period. (If you want to hear it, I strongly recommend the version by Brandon Acker and Reginald Mobley)
Actually, it is Dorothy Sayres who shows the depth of her erudition since she created him :)
andreas scholl!
Or Tom Mead 😊
10 out of 10. Watched every minute. Perfect production.
This cast was excellent, I wish they had made more than 3
I believe I found some that are older than these , and I want to get the audio books
Loved the fact that they made an excellent miniseries with no profanity, no sex, no body parts showing.
Just excellent dialog and acting !!
Why can't they make quality movies/TV shows like that now days.
Because it has all been by design - behind the curtain, so to speak. Jesuit infiltration to change & mold culture to fit their agenda. The real controversy between good and evil has been and still is being played out on the world’s stage.
Love the intelligent conversations they have! Oh the great thinking minds of Oxford. Sublime.
Glorious cheeky ++Rowan pic
Compulsory viewing, don't you know! Sayers is a genius and Petherbridge and cast superb. Mary and Jeff, NZ
Wonderful! I watched this in the 80s and fixed my hair like Harriet’s. I’m so glad to find it again! ❤
Sir Peter never looked so loveable and ordinarily attractive as he did in the boat when they were parked along the bank, talking. He plays his role to the max and owns it.
Lord Peter :-))) He's the younger son of the Duke of Denver if I remember right.
It is scene where she learns he loves him , the Dante in the pocket volume
@@mfjdv2020 When the stories begin Gerald , Peter and Mary's father is dead so Gerald is the Duke of Denver and therefore Peter is his brother.
@@christinabacon7412 Gerald is the Duke and his heir, a pilot, died in WW I so now Peter is the heir.
@@mfjdv2020 Yes, the younger son of Mortimer, the 15th Duke, and brother to Gerald, the 16th Duke.
Very british, very decent, very correct.. The way it must be. Love it.
Though I enjoyed other LPW series featuring Ian Carmichael, this one with Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge is my favourite.
Marvelous!! Thank you for making Lord Peter Wemsey and company available.
I am so glad that Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane have finally to get married, that made me so happy......!
Peggy Postma - I would have preferred a SPOILER ALERT at the beginning of your sentence. Just something you might think about before posting in the future as a courtesy to other viewers. Thank you...
@@lc7604 never reads the comments first; most folks are commenting after the fact.
@@springsogourne I'm sure many people do comment afterwards. Unfortunately I have the reprehensible habit of reading the comments first :-) But then it really is my own fault if I encounter any spoilers.
@@springsogourne here, here! :)
@@lc7604 one assumes everyone has read the books.
Lord Peter & Harriet's relationship makes me feel like I'm holding my breath- waiting for something to happen.
Although this is very good, especially in the casting of female dons, I really wish that this novel could have had a more in-depth dramatization....the themes are so complex that it loses so much when huge blocks need to be excised due to a budget and time constraints. “Have His Carcase” is not really in the same league as “Gaudy Night,” being so much shorter in length and utilizing significantly fewer actors, so that little was lost in the four episodes produced. I love the subplots of Wimsey’s jealousy when his nephew and another undergraduate (Pomfet) take a shine to Harriet, the gift of the chessmen, and the incident of the dog collar that ended up saving Harriet’s life, and also the fuller characterizations of the female dons. Another four episodes-or six!-would have produced a much better, more developed story, but I suppose I should be happy that this was done at all....Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter were excellent casting choices!
Well come up with about $10 million and you can make it any way you chose.. until then.....
Edward Petherbridge was distraught that Gaudy Night was in only three episodes and not four, which it needed.
How delightfully refreshing! Superb! My only lament is that there are only three instalemnts in this series to enjoy. Beyond the phenomenal story, fantastic script, and pitch-perfect acting, that was perhaps one of the best portrayals of plausible romantic tensions between two characters with such obvious chemistry, concluding with a most joyous and satisfying resolution.
It is so relaxing to watch a mystery TV series where there is not too much action, but a lot of thinking! Time seems to be more human in british television, in american TV series everything seems suitable for a robot or a super hero.
American TV series are comprised of Liberals,who do not have any imagination or writing skills,they use foul language in place of talent.
Peanut 24 Cute I am American and I whole heartedly agree with you!
pproust I am American, but not one of the 'vulgar mass'. I subscribe to Britbox and rely on RUclips for the great writing skills of the Brits. Cheers!
I am a liberal American & love British Mysteries & English Literature & hate Hollywood 🙃
Great irony in some of the comments above.
In her day, Dorothy Sayers was what Americans would call "a liberal". Very much an independent woman.
If conservative thinkers in US today feel reassured by her stories, it is because they happened in another era, long, long ago. No doubt she shocked conservatives in the 1930s. 😅
I never tire of watching these. Just brilliant.!.
Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful episodes! The richness of location, the use of the English language, the life style of the rich but not snobbish individuals involved and the love interest made a person use their cerebral intellect to another place and time is simply lovely!
Cerebral intellect- that is the key.
I've watched these a few times. I love how he loves. Tears
It is really rather wonderful that Harriet Vane finally decides to stop all of her silly avoidance techniques and agrees to marry Lord Peter Wimsey! He does adore her and they make a delightful couple! He finally decided to go all in and she reciprocated! It made me cry. I wish my wife would come back to me!
She saw sense. Thank god. ❤
I am besotted by these two...
Thank you very much for sharing these episodes. I always have loved Dorothy Sayers!
I thoroughly enjoyed this series. The book has long been a favorite of mine.
I think it would be almost impossible to better the casting of Edward Petherbridge, Harriet Vane and Richard Morant (the late lamented who was the right age but who always looked younger). How I wish Busman's Honeymoon and the later books by Jill Paton Walsh could be televised. The quality of the language is of the highest and with no recourse to profanities or swear words.
I agree!
I understand that Edward Petherbridge and his (actual) wife were the main characters in the play of Busman's Honeymoon. However, for some reason the BBC was unable to obtain the film rights for the book/play. Such a shame -- it would really complete the set!
Kyre Adept it had to do with the film rights still being bound up with that awful movie that was made in the forties starring, I think it was Robert Montgomery.
And the erudition and academic scholarship - in this one series how many references to academia and literature. Nothing nowhere near today and yes as below comment, before the active assualt on the dumbing down of America and the world.
technically there have been a couple of "damns" in it lol But yes, I love classic mysteries like Christie and Sayers for that very reason.
Many thanks, Clandestienfilm, adorably fine distinction of eloquence and style - enjoyed tremendously!
Harriet Walter oozes such character, and I quite think she is beautiful ...
She's a really complicated human being, which is something one meets rarely in fiction--especially in female characters! God bless Dorothy Sayers
from the correct angle.
Simply Delightful! I'm so pleased when my foraging on RUclips turns out like this!
Thank you very much. I thoroughly enjoyed the series, being a fan of Dorothy L Sayers. It's been very much appreciated. Great acting, intelligent dialogue; the whole works.
Absolutely joyous from start to finish❤If ONLY I could find a gentleman, who would look at me, in the same way as Lord Peter looks at Harriet❤
Thank for posting these episodes. They're wonderful!
First female grad Oxford 1920 first female grad Univ of Washington 1896?
Beautifully done, superb acting and locations. Thoroughly enjoyed !
Thank you. I wondered throughout how it would end for Lord Peter and Vane, and finally it indicates. I much prefer this Lord Peter to the other one, which I stopped watching. Fabulous series. Hated to see it end.
Personal opinion, he is not as convincing as the Ian Carmichael interpretation which was far more natural, this interpretation you can not imagine the previous mysteries being conducted as they were, he fits for the tormented lover but not the full character Wimsey is supposed to be.
Ian Carmichael seems a very stodgy Lord Peter. He overactive too. just my opinion.
oh I wish they had more in this series.... it would have been lovely to see Lord Peter as a dad and Bunter as a nanny!
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Very interesting. Good script, excellent actors, good direction. A very careful production. Thanks for loading.
I was too young for the Ian Carmichael series but from what I’ve read, Edward Petherbridge is a closer match to the character IMO. And Harriet Walter is terrific! So wish there had been more stories this team could have done together! This one is my favorite!
Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter are both impeccably cast. I like Ian Carmichael, who was superb in many comedy films, but Edward Petherbridge brings an intelligence combined with nerves on edge emotion to the role in his pursuit of Harriet that is sheer perfection, and Harriet Walter isn't pretty pretty, which would be awful, and combines looks and intelligence so that you can see why Peter Wimsey loved her so deeply.
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I adore this series.
Harriet says that Lord Peter isn't much to look at. They should have chosen a different actor to make her statement believable.😀
Occasionally, I need to revisit Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane.
To me, they have become old friends (who never age).
Thank you very much for uploading this wonderful production.
Sending greetings and love from Slovenia❤
How I wish this cast would have made Busman's Honeymoon!
18:50 "...the only principle that has made science possible is the ethical one, that the truth must be told at all times and if we do not penalize false statements made in error, then we open up the way for false statements made by intent,... and a false statement made by intent is the most serious crime a scientist can commit."
This statement does bring up the treacherous times we are living in now, does it not?!
YES!!!!
Try telling ‘trump’ that. But I agree with the sentiment wholeheartedly.
It certainly does. And it also exposes sciences and pretended sciences that don't get results but are fundedzith billions anyway.
@@pat.path-t1846 try telling the Obama's the bidens and the clintons that. you people can't even clean up your own cities much less the planet. Politics ruins everything. You probably think the great reset is a good idea.
Yes, science has been made to serve religious/political ambitions. You can see the Enlightenment fading away in your rear view mirror.
Such a pity that they could not devote 4 episodes to this novel, as they did with the others. Much is omitted. I know that EP was very frustrated by the adaptation. That said, it's a joy to watch these actors. Thank you
t's a shame they never included Busman's Honeymoon into the series, where they finally get married. Why in the world would they stop just short of the final prize everyone wanted to see
Because the rights to Busman’s Honeymoon were held by an American company. Copyright laws forbade it
@@frillydaffodilly I see; yes, that would explain it. It's a shame though; they'd have done it brilliantly.
Absolutely!
American Hollywood they would of messed it up the Brit’s do it better
Isn't it Busman's Holiday ?
Casting is spot on.
Loving this series. It’s clean and clever !
Wow .... 👏... I’m so happy I found this series in 2020 ... thoroughly enjoyable
When will PBS do the entire series? They are doing the Forsyth saga again and Agatha Christie always has one or two new versions coming out. Let’s give Dorothy a chance!!!
I have only now discovered these productions. I can only echo comments by others. What a pity that such quality is no longer found.
Thank you for uploading this lovely treasure!
Top level of film making acting music and much more . Watching this and other crimes from the same decades that was made without the internet or special effects its pure enjoyment. How much I dislike the movies today pure waits of time
Waste of time.
Oh this adaptation...it leaves out the best line: "Placetne, Magistra?"
Yes, I didn't see this comment until writing mine...
And the reply…” Placet”.
@@Roheryn100 Yes, indeed. Female readers of course assume that we all know the answer, "Reader, I married him!" Because Lord Peter was clearly a fox.
Sayers wrote a very interesting nonfiction book called The Mind of the Maker, in which she said that in creating anything, the writer or artist echoes the actual Creator and has three parts tat are inherent in the act of artistic or literary creation: The person who is doing the writing (or composition or painting or whatever) in real time, that is analogous to God the Father, the work as it is being created, the pages of the book getting typed up or the piano performance as it is performed, which is somehow analogous to God the Son who had a real life on Earth, and then the life that the work goes on to have in the minds of the readers or audience, which Sayers said was analogous to God the Holy Spirit. It made as much sense of the Trinity as I've ever heard anyone make of it, being a mere layperson, myself. I wonder whether any other artists or writers think she had a good point, or whether her point of view was relevant only to herself and her own creative efforts but doesn't at all reflect the way other writers and creative artists experience the act of artistic or literary creativity. However, none of my current friends are actual artists or writers, so I can't ask them what they think of it, whether or not they think Sayers views on creativity are accurate descriptions of their own experiences as writers or artists.
@@alindley3128 I think I'm going to have to find her essays now
Total vindication for Lord Peter wimsey! Miss vane true to her word burns away like straw in the face of true love and relents knowing ! Her surrender is sweeter than her victory! 48:00
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Wonderful. I never realised before that there was not one murder in this story - apaprt form the arguable suicide
clandestienfilm thank you very much indeed for sharing this. And I like your photo, it's the cover from Agatha Christie's "Crooked House" :-) Those cover paintings by Tom Adams were brilliant, it's a great pity that they've stopped using them.
But what a lovely ending, "bring your scholar's mind to the question and be true to yourself"! Good on Miss Devine, she phrased it in exactly the right way to help Harriet over that last hurdle.
Heavens! No comments in 3 years! The world is missing out on a gem! BTW, the synch between audio and video breaks down near the end. Unfortunate, for that is the moment we've all been waiting for. Thanks again.
Loved these 10 videos. The best casting & everything else.
I'm in love with this couple!
A great episode. Lord Peter shows up near the end of Episode 2 and teams up withMiss Vane to crack the case and her icy heart? The conclusion of this is very educational.
Loved the series. Thank Clandstienfilm for the hours of pleasure.
How can she not love him? Oh, the way looks at her and loves and accepts her just as she is! You may think that is owed to us, and as far as respect goes, I agree. But love, real love, is quite another matter.
That Wimsey man has the patience of a saint with Miss Vane.
Thank you so much for posting this serialisation. Kind regards from Scotland
Great episode to finish off a great series
Thank you for these episodes! 🌹🌻🌷
Thanks so much! Great mystery series!
Good series. I really enjoy the characters in this traditional detective-romance series.
Really enjoyed this series. I am partial to the British detective genre. I own collections of Sherlock Holmes (Jeremy Brett), Poirot and Cadfael. Always enjoyed this time period as well. I also kept wondering who Edward Petherbridge reminded me of and finally in this episode got it. It is John Newland of One Step Beyond fame.
Thoroughly enjoyable.
Delightful. Thank you
Brilliant! Thank you....
Thank you for uploading, I am very grateful.
Quality is the first word that comes to mind. Thoroughly enjoyable to hear well spoken English . In a world that to speak with an accent is considered ' in' dropping letters and the common touch is "IN" . Deplorable .
I agree with you about the English. Nowadays that language is almost invariably mangled by anglophones and non-anglophones alike. But Lord Peter does drop the 'n' at the end of many words.
Look at all the complaints that Peter speaks poor English
Excellent, many thanks for posting.
Wonderful in every way.
Loved this and them. Hope there is more of this series!
There are two more in the Lord Peter / Harriet series: Strong Poison and Have his Carcase, both here on RUclips. But you should have watched them in the right order!
@@mfjdv2020 oh dear! I didn’t know there was an “order”!
There is a very distinct order to the four Harriet Vane novels. From when he meets her, to when he courts her, to when he marries her. Jill Paton Walsh goes on with them as a married couple, very much in the Sayers spirit.
The woman who played Annie really did a great job
……having read all of Dorothy L Sayers ‘Lord Peter Wimsey’ books’, am loving this tv version of a few of the stories’. Cosy crime to the nth degree, imho……… 🇦🇺
The question remains: of all the people responsible for her husband's fate - why is it only the woman that is to blame? He (a man) chose to submit a false paper because he was too lazy too redo it. Then his academic circle (also men) chose to expel him for it. Then he chose to kill himself rather than accept the setback and carry on (rather like how he chose to submit a false paper rather than accept that he needed to redo it).
Of all those involved, the woman had the least involvement in the situation - she simply told the truth. Why doesn't Annie resent anyone else involved in her husband's disgrace? If a man had discovered the fraud, would she have hated him the same way?
The irony is that she accuses the female Dons of being unnatural and deranged, but it's she who is insane and hateful while they - though they have their quirks and quarrels - are all reasonably well-adjusted.
Your remark is the most sensible of all here. Nevertheless, his wife did suffer grief, and in her simplicity, sought to blame someone other than her husband, to whom she had undying loyalty. She came to represent retrograde womanhood, yet her values were strong, just traditional and misguided toward pathology, probably due to her own personal nature's being extreme. As for the ladies of Oxford, the academic world overall is sniping and competitive. This tendency becomes a habit. It's easy to forget the other aspects of life when one is so focused (with a real passion) on the life of the intellect. It is important to the world, and those who live it sacrifice other things, certainly. They are the Athenas to Annie's Juno.
@@harmoniabalanza In fact there are a lot of women who want a storybook romance with prince charming, and when years of living with him show that he was not that, they will blame everyone but him. Annie has a lot of company in her views.
I think she is still grieving and may do so all her life. He was her whole world. And a woman, in her eyes, ruined him.
That is because Annie represents a very traditional view of women and a wife's role that was incredibly widespread and the dominant cultural narrative at the time (and still is in many conservative groups now). The woman gets married, raises the children, helps her husband whenever possible, and he is the primary breadwinner. Since Annie didn't value the intellectual life, except as it supplied her husband with an income, from her point of view Miss deVine provided the precipitating incident leading to her husband's death. It is also possible that if she had managed to kill Miss deVine and escape detection that she would have decided someone else also needed to be punished.
The reason that this particular mystery plot was used was because it was central to the question of Harriet's marriage. I don't remember if it was left in the TV adaptation but at one point during Peter's first dinner at the college, he is asked his opinion on the woman question (meaning should woman go to college) and he implies it shouldn't even be a question at this point nor should they imply he (a man) has a right to offer an opinion on the subject. Most of the book (either in actual events or as a theoretical discussion) deals with contemporary arguments that learning unfits women for marriage and discussion about whether it is better to try to be domestic yourself or earn money at a job you are good at and then pay money to someone good at domestic science to keep house for you, etc. Aside from the fact that Sayers was including an issue of contemporary debate, it was also necessary for Harriet's change in her willingness to marry Peter. She knows Peter is smart, rich, and she is attracted to him but that and the laws of the time give him all the power. This was written before women could have a separate legal and financial identity beyond their husbands'. She is reassured through the events in the book that Peter will allow her to continue the job she is good at (writing mysteries), not suddenly demand she fit the traditional ideal of a domestic wife, that his views of an ideal marriage actually correspond to her own (in earlier books they never really got beyond her rejection of each proposal), that he will let her take reasonable risks, etc. They also go back to the root causes of their actions at time when he first started proposing and deal with them and what has changed since then.
This is why I commented elsewhere that the adaptation butchers the romance. They didn't keep enough of the philosophical discussions and interior monologues for someone who hasn't read the book to really follow why Harriet changed her mind.
In listening to the book on audio, it was probably my favorite. Although Annie is a classic example of "the misogyny coming from inside the house," she also makes a spirited argument for intersectionalism that seems absent in this adaptation: That education and independence from men is a *privilege* of these well-heeled ladies who frequently disregard the demands on working women. (Which makes her despite of Harriet, who singularly notices her and talks to her as a peer, even more striking)
Very nice. It made me smile and the ending just lovely.
The ending is all wrong and not what Sayers wrote.
Loved this series! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome stuff! Wish there were more!
Thank you for sharing.
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed et am enjoying all of these, 💕💕💗💗💛
Yesss!!! She finally said YES ... LOL
Sigh....... What a pity that this is the end. I guess I`ll have to start at the beginning (once more).
Oh I've done that twice already....sigh.
Doesn’t every woman ache to have someone love her as devotedly as Peter loves Harriet?
No.
Love the soundtrack music- so romantically poignant! Great cast, so well told!
Loved this series story line is a bit weaker than the others but the love interest compensated ,a happy ending ,excellent made for the role casting would love to see more
Half of the storyline is missed out in this adaptation.
@@tootsiefrootsie5987 Indeed. It is probably the best of the books, especially in delineating LPW's character, as well as Harriet's.
Thank you for posting these.
Loved this
Love allll of the episodes.. Well done
I love that Lord Peter isn't such a snob that he can look silly in his boater hat on the water!
He looks absolutely adorable! 🥰
Fantastic!!!!!
Excellent, many thanks.
a mystery that makes one think philosophy. thanks.