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If Petherbridge and Walter nail Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane, as they do, then high praise is due to Richard Morant as the standout Bunter: his is a pitch perfect performance. What a classic adaptation is this!
I love this one too. I just think they recast Bunter way too young. But he plays the role very well. I also was a little puzzled by how they wrote Peter and Harriet at the end. Struck me as odd how she coldly walked away and left him there. In the book she went looking for him to thank him, but her friend told her he had left. The friend remarked something that to see him again she'd have to send for him. When Harriet said she'd never do that, her friend wisely said "Oh, yes you will" or something like that. Different take on her character.
I personally appreciated Lord Peter's respect for the capabilities of women. He knew how to get odd tasks accomplished: ask the person who suits best for their assistance. A man to charm the kitchen help, but a inventive woman to beguile a nurse, or a clever secretary to catch her murderous boss.
Three hours well spent watching this stellar production. Marvelous. And I must say I was rather taken with Miss Climpson, full of pluck and so fetching in her stylish hat @ 7:45.
The secretary that helps Sir Peter so much reminds me of Poirot's, Ms. Lemon. She is up for all different roles in detection and really seems to enjoy the thrill of it. what a wonderfully written story and so perfectly portrayed all the way..
@@raphaelandrews3617 We should be going back to that state ... because a) it creates jobs, which is needed because b) the global population will not stop increasing and c) "the industry" will not stop making productions more efficient (i.e. requiring even fewer people). I also prefer "servants" over "insurance salesperson" jobs, the first add human contact, the second only takes money.
ive been watching this series endlessly over the last year and a half... and i find myself surprised that it wasnt really 1920 when it was filmed. Characters, costumes, language and mannerisms... so perfectly done. thank you!
I just stumbled across it and watched all three segments at once. I was struck in the first installment at how perfectly rendered are the things you mention. I suspect the initial scenes were filmed in the Old Bailey itself. I was pleased to see this was a project of BBC and WBGH in Boston. BBC is the most civilized broadcast organization on the planet.
Yes they manage to take care to build entire characters around steps in the story. They take their time and you can sit back and enjoy the world they build. Now they rush and reduce such characters to lazy stereotypes or shallow characters.
He also plays the organ in an emotional moment in Gaudy Night, and they actually show him playing. A small scene, but I love it. The most sensuous hands in all of British stage and screen.
@@patriciajrs46 "loose /lo͞os/ verb gerund or present participle: loosing set free; release. "the hounds have been loosed"" There certainly is such a word, even if not used correctly here.
Watching this again just for fun and suddenly realized that the actress playing Miss Booth (the nurse) also played Hyacinth Bucket's sister Daisy on Keeping Up Appearances. How extraordinary! 🤣
Well, there is a limited pool of actors in Britain and the BBC requires that actors be British for all their shows, unless it can be proved that no British actor could play a certain role. So, you are bound to have a lot of the same people in every BBC production.
@@eshbena Well, I mentioned this originally because I thought that the difference between those two roles was so vast and Judy Cornwell's believe-ability in both roles was so real that her accomplishment as an actress was worth noting.
Jolly good show! My first time seeing this one. Though it did not take long to figure out who did it, it was still spell binding! I stood up half the night to watch all three Episodes!! Now I must watch others! I saw an ice skating duo from France for the first time yesterday as well. I could not keep my eyes off of them for a second! This series was the same! Thanks for sharing it!!!
Well done......everything! I'm now going to go back and enjoy the rest! That's fifty years to catch up. I'll wallow in the stories, high production values, acting, sets, music and the comparison of the several who brought Lord Peter Wimsey to life. Thanks!
Wow! loved every precious moment. Superb everything and seemingly no expense spared. I know this is fiction but that time in history seems nothing at all like our own world today.
I love Lord Peter man servant the give-and-take between Lord Peter and Buckner is breathtaking. The history behind Lord Peter is he is a son to a Duke. Hooray!!!!🏆
Perhaps I've been too harsh on Harriet Vain when she is disrespectful to Lord Peter. I keep looking for a lady but I can't find it. As a professional writer myself I find her to be so unpretty when she's disrespectful. To Lord Peter. Stay tuned they get married.
@@glen7318 she thought she told a 13 year old that she could go to prison for perjury and then at the end she said that no one could blame you. As a professional writer myself I thought they did a pretty poor job on that statement details please
The problem with Buckner is that he let it slip through his legs. Bunter would never had made that mistake. There’s probably a joke to be made about Bunter’s name too, but someone else can do that.
I hate Harriet Vain she's so disrespectful to Lord Peter he's such a gentleman I guess opposites attract. I would not give her the time of day. Herwords makes her look so unpretty!!!!.
Strong Poison is my favorite story of this series because it brings us into Lord Peter's world -- the loyal and talented Bunter, the resourceful ladies of the typing bureau, Bill the lock expert. We get to see their talents in helping Lord Peter solve a challenging mystery and save Harriet Vane who means so much to him.
@@francesannebrown6719 I think you don’t quite get it… She’s being tried for murder, nearly certain she will be hanged. She’s in shock. This aristocrat saves her. She’s confused, but intelligent enough to know that she doesn’t want a relationship where she’s indebted to someone. Especially someone that is way above herself socially. Two reasons to be at a disadvantage. I think Sawyers who thought out Harriet Vane created her that way for the reasons aforementioned.
There was a peak of interest in Spiritism, seances, and spirit mediums in the 1920s, especially in countries like England, which had lost so many lives in World War I. In a great many cases, the bodies of the war dead were never recovered and proper burials had never been carried out. Given the nature of weapons used in the Great War, many were blown to bits or otherwise left no identifiable remains. So it is easy to see why people so urgently wanted to communicate with their dead. One of Spiritism’s most famous enthusiasts was Arthur Conan Doyle, author of the Sherlock Holmes stories. Doyle’s son had died in the war, but he had been interested in psychic phenomena well before then. Doyle’s friend, the famous magician Harry Houdini, insisted that mediums and others claiming paranormal powers were frauds, and Houdini spent much time in his later years exposing fake mediums and psychic hoaxers.
I loveOld English movies they still kill you but they do it very politely murder in the library. Frances Anne Brown prolific songwriter Nashville Tennessee. My favorite Agatha Christie movie is murder on the Orient. 🎶
Although the damages of war are undeniably linked to the spiritism enthusiasm, it has been a subject of interest in Europe and in America from much before, and remains a very French discovery, as it was theorized and then popularized by Allan Kardec, a Britton who wrote extensively and, as a connoisseur, in a very firsthand scientific fashion about the reality of the departing and departed souls. The interest he prompted in occidental minds about the fact that some dead still hover around the living after the eviction of the sprites from their former bodies of flesh was however never aimed at encouraging turning tables, but at pointing out to the remaining ones that a fundamental moral creed was to be derived from the mediumnistic experience: that unforgiven sins, and unresolved Karma is always retained as uncleared channels of energy that may, and often will, cause the "perisprit" (neither body nor soul, but a thin substance linking the two, in the same rapport as purgatory is neither hell nor heaven, but the abode of the perisprit for the time the unsolved state of the human soul is to be purged of its remaining filth, by some true medium may accidentally either precipitate into hell through their meddling in séances, or ease into the way of absolution.) to remain attached in its astral body on a plane that is not physical yet entirely emotional and psychical. Between 1850 and 1920 this was already a subject of great engrossment amongst the ensemble of Europe's "good society", who after supper had a choice between playing bridge or having a séance. The bitter truth is that when it was not altogether charlatanism, the bone fine mediums at those elegant séances were either entering involuntary trances and finding themselves properly being the mouthpieces of disembodied spirits who were lingering in the atmosphere and having still some components of themselves attached with a remaining member, especially if these departed souls were abruptly evicted from their frames of flesh as a result of long-term addictions of alcohol, gambling or any unhealthy relationship with sexual thoughts or money-related and worldly considerations, and the remaining member or members of his family being themselves inclined to the same vices, thus very sensitive members, in those "lovely" after-dinner evening parties were being taken control of by the invisible influences who used those involuntary mediums of their own kin to express themselves and their discontent at having been ushered so brutally from this plane of manifestation. On the other hand, rare (but still existent and quite capable, when, indeed their faculties have been trained to a proper extant and their moral lives are being irreproachably kept in kilter and their motives quite pure) mediums of the bone fide kind, on some evenings, accomplished true feats of spiritual counselling and rescue that may have been brought about through intercourse with departed spirits. If England has become the second abode of spiritualism, after France, it is largely owing to the wide readership it could possibly have given the choice of the English language as the main channel of propagation of theosophical ideas at the end of the 19th century, and before that, as the lingua franca of the Psychic Research Institutes of both England and America. Victorian England was indeed THE playground of mediums, and that was several decades before the harrowing losses its population had experienced through the first world war. It was ALREADY popular there and then, more than anywhere else in Europe, and even after the first and second it remained a distinct characteristic of the English-speaking world, whereas the other nations, having suffered equally numerous losses in the very same wars, were never as fond of contacting disembodied spirits as the good old English and their obvious penchant for evening games, whether it is bridge or a jolly amusing séance...
Sayers made friends with a man who worked for teh Society for Psychic Research and he told her a lot of stuff about fake mediums and how they did their stuff, and she worked it into the novel...also giving Miss Climpson the experience of having met a man from the Society for Psychic Research, which was why she was able to produce some eerie effects and convince the nurse....
Not only England but also a great many countries in the European world suffered immense losses of young lives. Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand in the English-speaking world. Also Belgium and France (the Netherlands remained neutral during the Great War). And we mustn't forget the poor young German lads either, who after all were merely puppets and cannon fodder just like all the rest. They too suffered terrible losses and injuries. Innumerable young lads from all over the European world 'survived' the Great War (in the sense that they were not killed outright), but were terribly maimed, mutilated, gassed and/or shell-shocked.
I ran into Harriet Walter during intermission of a play on Broadway. I so wanted to walk up to her and tell her how much I loved her work but lost my nerve.
I can hardly blame you, she would be a strong and amazing woman. Did anyone understand what Dorothy Sayers was getting at with, "not so particularly beautiful, but eyes put in with a smutty finger." I've wondered.
The actress Harriet has been in a Hercule Poirot. ( head mistress of a private girls school) also in Inspector Morse as a psychologist. I really enjoy Dorothy Sayers with a pot of chamomile tea and candlelight, nice way to end a hectic day.
Thanks for helping me with Miss Murchison and where I had seen her before. She has a very specific feature with her mouth and now I see it is Verity from the original Poldark series. 👏🏼
Good adaption - but the book has one additional romantic subplot and other details that make it worth reading. And in particular a much better and more satisfactory final scene. And, as far as I know, the books can still be easily bought.
Even better than reading it is listening to Ian Carmichael's reading/performance of the audiobook/s -- every time I do I hear new things in Sayres' text/s I never noticed before :)
I really enjoyed this production of the Lord peter wimsey stories. Would the odious Mr Vaughan inherit any fortune left by Cremona Gardens? As he is he one mentioned in the will.
G The “test” Harriet was subjected to is based on an actual experience of Ms. Sayers, except that she became pregnant by the scoundrel and gave up her son for adoption by a family member. He was raised to think of her as his aunt
not his aunt, his adoptive mother. And it wasn't the father of her son who "tested" her, it was a writer called John Cournous, who told her he did not want to marry, and they had a relationship which DLS broke off. Then she had an affair with the man who fathered her child.
@@glen7318 Oh Dear! Dorothy Sayers did not have an easy time of it. It is a mark of greatness that one can turn the most awful things in one's life into inspiration to go on in life, particularly to transcend those memories into something creative and marvelous. I read the book "Such an Odd Woman" about her life, but it wasn't made clear.
@@grantwriter7777 We can be grateful in a way for her difficulties as it was apparently the need for funds to support her son that continued her literary output (the job she took in advertising also produced one of my favorites, Murder Must Advertise -- Ian Carmichael's reading/performance of all of the novels is a treat like no other).
He has to ... a) he would probably be lost without him and he would be "a hard act to follow/replace" b) Bunter is VERY GOOD at what he does ... and thus deserves respect c) there are probably quite a few secrets which shouldnt be revealed (which Bunter would not do, but others might, cf. "The Master Blackmailer" episode from Sherlock Holmes)
Bunter is a LOT more than a conventional butler. Wimsey treats Bunter more like a friend than a servant because of their history together. Bunter was a Sergeant under his command during the war. Wimsey got buried in a shell hole (with decaying corpses) and Bunter was the one to dig him out. Wimsey suggested Bunter comes to him for a job when they were demobbed. When Peter was very ill at home with shell shock Bunter turned up, took over and helped him recover. It’s all in the books - try Busman’s Honeymoon.
@henrimatisse7481 I can see no hostility in her look. She explained everything beforehand. Had she embraced him before living, she would have given him false hopes. Even the touch of her hand would have been too much, so she wouldn`t even shake his hand. She needed to be absolutely free, even free from any attachment to him and his love for her, so she could process her regained freedom and the enormous stress she had to endure during her imprisonment. All she needed was distance and time after they had spent so much intense time together. There was a lot more that was going on on a psychological level. Even though the ending is a bit unusual and different from the one in the book, it is comprehensible and very cleverly done.
@@lechat8533 I agree with you. Except that in having Peter leave when she wanted to thank him showed what a generous man he was -- he understood just what you have said above, and he respected it. The TV ending tends to diminish that, making him seem a demanding supplicant when the "real" ending proves how much he truly loves her -- something she will come to realise. Throughout the Peter and Harriet books and films, one theme is her gratitude to him and how it makes HER feel less than whole, and his constant efforts to remove that burden from her. That begins in this book's ending.
Everything in these series so authentic and civilised although I do question the champagne flutes as I thought back in the day one drank champagne from Coupe’s or Saucers - which IMO are so much more suitable to drink Champagne from, especially for men, than silly flimsy flutes with their ridiculously narrow tops.
GOOD POINT! The first champagne flute was designed in England by George Ravenscroft in 1662. The flute was designed to prevent the champagne from going flat. The flute quickly became popular among the aristocracy and the upper class. Personally, I find it is difficult to drink out of, flat or not, and I have more than once, embarrassingly poured a dribble down my gown! The flat crystal bowls are difficult to carry and not slosh, so in my opinion Champagne has been treated badly by the Crystal-makers. In my opinion, Champagne is at little risk of going flat anyway, being delightful stuff!!
Well rendered. I do appreciate the old full size coupes; which allow for a decent pour without over-filling, and of course a decent vintage to always be utilized for such occasions....
I had wondered, in episode 2, if that was "our Diasy," but since she did not speak, I was not sure. Like you, I was not fairly certain until the seance.
He proposed her when she was still in stress. It was confusing her certainly. She needed time to regain her life and cleared her head from such trouble. She couldn't directly make decision to tie her life with anyone.
Kesa Loma you are so correct. but it did see her evaluating him and finding him most admirable and funny, logical and like a Hero.. but don't you have to admire her reticence to let it show. Once bitten and all that.
The behaviour of the lady, Harriet Vane, would have been considered shockingly ungrateful and therefore improper in the England of Sayers' younger years. A reflection of the 1920's perhaps. But this level of emancipation would not been reached before the 1979's. I think Sayer's wanted to make a statement in protest of the dependency of women of men. And that elevates this story to a more important and thereby more interesting level.
The scene just before Harriet Vane turns and walks away from Lord Peter seemed unlikely. It just seems to me that she would have been mobbed by reporters!
I enjoyed all three parts till the very very end when they all left the courtroom all the people we're so happy the people just watching the hearing. But also was Lord Peter and she walked out he's standing there patiently waiting, she looks at him and walk the opposite direction in a very conceited manner, [ Quite ungrateful. ] But thank you, ever so much
She was either conceited not ungrateful. Rather she was emotionally tired, exhausted and suffering from a severe bout of insecurity and poor self image. She did not feel that she was good enough for him and tried to 'save' him by not allowing him to become involved with her. One must read the books, preferably in order, to get the full background to the stories.
He will eventually realize that trying to start a romance with a prisoner struggling with a false accusation of murder and facing almost immediate execution is a selfish way to behave. They will both struggle to move past this. The books cover the relationship in greater depth.
@@dindinprivate3477 Harriet was neither conceited nor ungrateful. But she had been through a traumatic experience. She needed to settle down emotionally to be able to respond freely and honestly to the fascinating Lord Peter.
If it helps, in the novel it's the opposite- after Harriet turns him down at the prison, she runs up to thank him but he's already left. I really dislike this change for the adaptation.
Edward Petherbridge would have been excellent in Murder Must Advertise ... my favourite book by D L Sayers. Lord Peter's gift for witticism was ideal in the role of an advertising executive !
This ending is terrible….it makes Harriet look such an ingrate, when in the novel, she rushes to thank him, only to find that he already left. And this becomes _the_ very important area of conflict between them in the coming novels, bc Harriet becomes very bitter about the debt of gratitude she feels she owes him, when in reality, she uses this bitterness to camouflage her love for him. I’ll never understand why the people responsible for adapting excellent novels for the large or small screen always feel the need to change them in the most incomprehensible and arbitrary ways!
Yes, it's a major flaw in the series overall- it does a lot to remove, for some reason, the central conflict that Peter and Harriet's romance is centered around in the novels- her indebtedness to him and his awareness of the fact. I can live with MOST of the changes to their relationship in this novel (they're different, but good in their own way) except for the ending; I think that Have His Carcase is as good an adaptation as they were going to get, with the exception of a bit too much pushiness from Peter; and the adaptation of Gaudy Night is AWFUL. I still watch it because I can't get enough of them, particularly Harriet, but their relationship progression and the ending are just so wrong. Whose idea was it to change the extremely iconic proposal, if nothing else?!
@@gkidz4 I agree with you. And Gaudy Night, far and away the best book, is far and away the worst of these adaptations. This is all right, aside from the ending, but Have His Carcase is the best of the three.
They should have kept that ending. It emphasized how good Peter was; that he wasn't going to demand her gratitude, or even worse a "payment". This ending makes Peter a miserable white knight and gives Harriet no option but to be ungrateful.
Agatha Christie was 3 years older than Dorothy L. Sayers and I believe was writing her murder mysteries before Sayers wrote hers so if anyone was influencing anyone else, it was Christie who influenced Sayers not the other way around.
@@gisawslonim9716 Sayers read lots of detective stories, before she started writing them.. but I think if anyone was a particular influence on her it was Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes.
Agatha Christie specialised in murder mysteries whereas Dorothy Sayers was much more interested in scholarly work. Harriet in this book makes a number of remarks about the murder mystery genre, not exactly complementary.
The Floating Admiral is a collaborative detective novel written by fourteen members of the British Detection Club in 1931. The twelve chapters of the story were each written by a different author including Christie and Sayers. From what I’ve read they were not close friends but were on good terms and respected each others work.
it is explained in the book tht she met someone from the Psychic research society and learned about the tricks form him.. and she buys the stuff that she needs
I rather think Miss Climpson could rise to any occasion. Not for nothing did Peter make her the head of his investigations bureau, exposing frauds and scams. I could do with another book or two elucidating Miss Climpson!
@@grantwriter7777 An interesting thought -- have you read or listened to the novels by Jill Paton Walsh who was given permission by the literary executors to complete two novels Sayres had roughed out? (She also did two of her own with the characters, one wonderful, one not). Given how bad the more recent novel was I don't know if she retains the capability but it might be an interesting proposal for someone to make -- you're right, there's a hidden wealth in Miss Climpson.
She thanked him in the prison. I still think she should have thanked him in the court house, but she probably didn't want to give him any encouragement romantically. His own fault.
In the book, he doesn't even try to meet her after the acquittal. She looks for him but he's not there. Eliunid Price points out that he's too decent to hover and that if she wants to thank him, she'll have to go to him. VERY different feel than the show.
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If Petherbridge and Walter nail Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane, as they do, then high praise is due to Richard Morant as the standout Bunter: his is a pitch perfect performance. What a classic adaptation is this!
Yes, he is. Quite deducing himself.
Hear hear!
I love this one too. I just think they recast Bunter way too young. But he plays the role very well. I also was a little puzzled by how they wrote Peter and Harriet at the end. Struck me as odd how she coldly walked away and left him there. In the book she went looking for him to thank him, but her friend told her he had left. The friend remarked something that to see him again she'd have to send for him. When Harriet said she'd never do that, her friend wisely said "Oh, yes you will" or something like that. Different take on her character.
@@melodyszadkowski5256I felt so bad for him. She just walked away 😒
@@melodyszadkowski5256I wanted to hug him through the screen, he looked so very sad and broken. Edward is a brilliant actor.
Well without all these skilled ladies Lord Peter couldn’t have done it. They deserve some credit.
I personally appreciated Lord Peter's respect for the capabilities of women. He knew how to get odd tasks accomplished: ask the person who suits best for their assistance. A man to charm the kitchen help, but a inventive woman to beguile a nurse, or a clever secretary to catch her murderous boss.
Three hours well spent watching this stellar production. Marvelous. And I must say I was rather taken with Miss Climpson, full of pluck and so fetching in her stylish hat @ 7:45.
The secretary that helps Sir Peter so much reminds me of Poirot's, Ms. Lemon. She is up for all different roles in detection and really seems to enjoy the thrill of it. what a wonderfully written story and so perfectly portrayed all the way..
yes, she feels a bit guilty, as she is a High Church spinster, at the deceptions but really rather enjoys them...
Lord Peter. Not 'Sir Peter'.
Yes, in the past people had so many staff working for them, today we have machines instead.
@@raphaelandrews3617 We should be going back to that state ... because a) it creates jobs, which is needed because b) the global population will not stop increasing and c) "the industry" will not stop making productions more efficient (i.e. requiring even fewer people).
I also prefer "servants" over "insurance salesperson" jobs, the first add human contact, the second only takes money.
I agree she impresses me far more than Harriet Vaine
Superb. There is a magical feeling to this show, modern TV lacks this sort of greatness.
"Bless you, and may your shadow never grow bulkier." [or something like that - episode one] This whole series is full of great quotes!
Beautiful writing 💜
my favourite line
Most of the lines come directly from the original book. Sayers was a fantastic writer. Her books top my favourites list.
ive been watching this series endlessly over the last year and a half... and i find myself surprised that it wasnt really 1920 when it was filmed. Characters, costumes, language and mannerisms... so perfectly done. thank you!
I just stumbled across it and watched all three segments at once. I was struck in the first installment at how perfectly rendered are the things you mention. I suspect the initial scenes were filmed in the Old Bailey itself. I was pleased to see this was a project of BBC and WBGH in Boston. BBC is the most civilized broadcast organization on the planet.
The masterful use of language is a delight.💜
I adore Lord Peter’s mother. The last shot of her in the gallery with the blue hat/blue netting.. reminded me of the Queen Mother.
❤️
I believe her name is Margaret Scott, she also played Mrs Pumphrey in the older version of All Creatures great and Small. She was a beautiful lady.
@@JB-wu9dc Ah! Thank you!! I was sure I knew her from somewhere! Greatly indebted to you!
@@JB-wu9dc Margaretta. She is also in an early Paul Temple movie.
These were so perfect, and Have His Carcase and Gaudy Night. I wish they had done Busman's Honeymoon and Talboys!
@Nancy Fox Talboys is a Dorothy Sayers short story about Lord Peter and Harriet and their sons several years after their marriage.
They tried to but couldn’t secure permission
@@dorysrailenesaxlehner9146Who had/has the copyright?
Great Upload, RIP Richard Morant, great butler.
Ms. L. Churchill
It's RICHARD Morant.
Richard Morant, his name is. Not Paul ;-)
Never tire of this series. So immaculately done!
What I love about these adventures are the small stories within the stories where we follow other characters, such as the "spiritualist" lady
Yes they manage to take care to build entire characters around steps in the story. They take their time and you can sit back and enjoy the world they build. Now they rush and reduce such characters to lazy stereotypes or shallow characters.
@@marshhen This is a fact, that for the reason of it, I endeavor to immitate the fleshing out of my characters and make them seem to be real people.
Thank you for posting this!! Such great casting, and it's wonderful when a Dorothy Sayers novel comes to life!!👏👏👏
Absolutely delightful! Clever, witty, and superbly acted! Thank you!
Love it, the best Lord Peter.
excellent for this lonely winter evening, just like a good old book of classical english detective stories
Terrific series! Well acted by all characters. Thank you.
Peter is so absolutely positively adorable, in later years as a psycho on MidSOMER MURDERS, STILL find him so very..very loveable.
If you guy's haven't seen "Gaudy Night" it's a must watch of this series.
The opening animation is really so beautiful and elegant.
Lord Peter Wimsey playing Beethoven's Adagio Cantabile at 36:06 while loosing sleep over Harriet's precarious situation. So beautiful and appropriate!
He also plays the organ in an emotional moment in Gaudy Night, and they actually show him playing. A small scene, but I love it. The most sensuous hands in all of British stage and screen.
@Von Staufenberg Peter wanted to clear Harriet absolutely, not just create reasonable doubt....
You can spell Beethoven, and adaggio, and such, yet the word needed is losing. There's no such word as loosing.
Good comments though.
It's bad form, loosing off at a person's grammatical errors. @@patriciajrs46
@@patriciajrs46 "loose
/lo͞os/
verb
gerund or present participle: loosing
set free; release.
"the hounds have been loosed""
There certainly is such a word, even if not used correctly here.
I watched all three episodes and i am compleatly speakless...... 💟its fantastic!!!
Had no idea of dorothy sayers before this...what jolly good viewing indeed! Thanks
Oh my gosh! Do read the books! Sayers is an amazing writer. A
Watching this again just for fun and suddenly realized that the actress playing Miss Booth (the nurse) also played Hyacinth Bucket's sister Daisy on Keeping Up Appearances. How extraordinary! 🤣
Yes. Well done.
And the cook for Urquhart was Nurse in Blackadder! I'd know that voice anywhere....
@zzydny. Daisy was played by Judy Cornwell. She was also in an episode of Midsomer murder.
Well, there is a limited pool of actors in Britain and the BBC requires that actors be British for all their shows, unless it can be proved that no British actor could play a certain role. So, you are bound to have a lot of the same people in every BBC production.
@@eshbena Well, I mentioned this originally because I thought that the difference between those two roles was so vast and Judy Cornwell's believe-ability in both roles was so real that her accomplishment as an actress was worth noting.
Jolly good show! My first time seeing this one. Though it did not take long to figure out who did it, it was still spell binding! I stood up half the night to watch all three Episodes!!
Now I must watch others!
I saw an ice skating duo from France for the first time yesterday as well. I could not keep my eyes off of them for a second! This series was the same!
Thanks for sharing it!!!
Miss Climpson is blissful. ❤
14:00 Absolutely delightful.
Just love the tailoring in the costumes and such quality fabrics.well done wardrobe!
Yes indeed, proper tailoring at lat!
@@ritawing1064 qqqq
How disappointing you are, reducing everything to the shallow surface.
It's all about the detail that makes a fine production and an absolute pleasure to see and appreciate. @@paintedpony2935
Very enjoyable. Harriet bears a resemblance to her uncle Sir Christopher Lee... both very talented actors.
OMG I didn't know
@@chrismel9142 There's definitely a resemblance.. however I've never thought of Harriet as a very good actress.. She plays Harriet Vane very flatly...
@@glen7318 She plays her very much as written by Sayers.
@@someonerandom256 dont agree. I really cant stand Harriet on screen - while I can like Harreit of the books reasonably well.
@@glen7318NOT AT ALL. Don't forget the woman has been charged with murder. Do you really expect her to be jolly, dancing on the table or such like?
Thank you! Love all the Lord Wimsey series.
All three episodes really have been quite wonderful! Thank you.
Well done......everything!
I'm now going to go back and enjoy the rest! That's fifty years to catch up.
I'll wallow in the stories, high production values, acting, sets, music and the comparison of the several who brought Lord Peter Wimsey to life.
Thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it all, Chris!
really only 2 main actors who played Peter, in the UK. Ed Petheredge and Ian Carmichael.
Wow! loved every precious moment. Superb everything and seemingly no expense spared. I know this is fiction but that time in history seems nothing at all like our own world today.
I love Lord Peter man servant the give-and-take between Lord Peter and Buckner is breathtaking. The history behind Lord Peter is he is a son to a Duke. Hooray!!!!🏆
Perhaps I've been too harsh on Harriet Vain when she is disrespectful to Lord Peter. I keep looking for a lady but I can't find it. As a professional writer myself I find her to be so unpretty when she's disrespectful. To Lord Peter. Stay tuned they get married.
The servant's name is Bunter.
@@francesannebrown6719 What do you mean disrespectful? ANd in what way is she not a lady?
@@glen7318 she thought she told a 13 year old that she could go to prison for perjury and then at the end she said that no one could blame you.
As a professional writer myself I thought they did a pretty poor job on that statement details please
The problem with Buckner is that he let it slip through his legs. Bunter would never had made that mistake. There’s probably a joke to be made about Bunter’s name too, but someone else can do that.
Really excellent TV, many thanks for posting.
strong poison is my favourite series. i become obsessed with it . never get tired of it.
I hate Harriet Vain she's so disrespectful to Lord Peter he's such a gentleman I guess opposites attract. I would not give her the time of day. Herwords makes her look so unpretty!!!!.
Strong Poison is my favorite story of this series because it brings us into Lord Peter's world -- the loyal and talented Bunter, the resourceful ladies of the typing bureau, Bill the lock expert. We get to see their talents in helping Lord Peter solve a challenging mystery and save Harriet Vane who means so much to him.
@@francesannebrown6719 I think you don’t quite get it… She’s being tried for murder, nearly certain she will be hanged. She’s in shock. This aristocrat saves her. She’s confused, but intelligent enough to know that she doesn’t want a relationship where she’s indebted to someone. Especially someone that is way above herself socially. Two reasons to be at a disadvantage. I think Sawyers who thought out Harriet Vane created her that way for the reasons aforementioned.
I've just dropped my eraser and it's taken an eccentric bounce.
Lol
Then he sat on it!
I am adictive to these old movies. Simply incredible! Thank you sooo much!
There was a peak of interest in Spiritism, seances, and spirit mediums in the 1920s, especially in countries like England, which had lost so many lives in World War I. In a great many cases, the bodies of the war dead were never recovered and proper burials had never been carried out. Given the nature of weapons used in the Great War, many were blown to bits or otherwise left no identifiable remains. So it is easy to see why people so urgently wanted to communicate with their dead. One of Spiritism’s most famous enthusiasts was Arthur Conan Doyle, author of the Sherlock Holmes stories. Doyle’s son had died in the war, but he had been interested in psychic phenomena well before then. Doyle’s friend, the famous magician Harry Houdini, insisted that mediums and others claiming paranormal powers were frauds, and Houdini spent much time in his later years exposing fake mediums and psychic hoaxers.
Good point. Thanks for the info.
I loveOld English movies they still kill you but they do it very politely murder in the library. Frances Anne Brown prolific songwriter Nashville Tennessee. My favorite Agatha Christie movie is murder on the Orient. 🎶
Although the damages of war are undeniably linked to the spiritism enthusiasm, it has been a subject of interest in Europe and in America from much before, and remains a very French discovery, as it was theorized and then popularized by Allan Kardec, a Britton who wrote extensively and, as a connoisseur, in a very firsthand scientific fashion about the reality of the departing and departed souls. The interest he prompted in occidental minds about the fact that some dead still hover around the living after the eviction of the sprites from their former bodies of flesh was however never aimed at encouraging turning tables, but at pointing out to the remaining ones that a fundamental moral creed was to be derived from the mediumnistic experience: that unforgiven sins, and unresolved Karma is always retained as uncleared channels of energy that may, and often will, cause the "perisprit" (neither body nor soul, but a thin substance linking the two, in the same rapport as purgatory is neither hell nor heaven, but the abode of the perisprit for the time the unsolved state of the human soul is to be purged of its remaining filth, by some true medium may accidentally either precipitate into hell through their meddling in séances, or ease into the way of absolution.) to remain attached in its astral body on a plane that is not physical yet entirely emotional and psychical. Between 1850 and 1920 this was already a subject of great engrossment amongst the ensemble of Europe's "good society", who after supper had a choice between playing bridge or having a séance. The bitter truth is that when it was not altogether charlatanism, the bone fine mediums at those elegant séances were either entering involuntary trances and finding themselves properly being the mouthpieces of disembodied spirits who were lingering in the atmosphere and having still some components of themselves attached with a remaining member, especially if these departed souls were abruptly evicted from their frames of flesh as a result of long-term addictions of alcohol, gambling or any unhealthy relationship with sexual thoughts or money-related and worldly considerations, and the remaining member or members of his family being themselves inclined to the same vices, thus very sensitive members, in those "lovely" after-dinner evening parties were being taken control of by the invisible influences who used those involuntary mediums of their own kin to express themselves and their discontent at having been ushered so brutally from this plane of manifestation. On the other hand, rare (but still existent and quite capable, when, indeed their faculties have been trained to a proper extant and their moral lives are being irreproachably kept in kilter and their motives quite pure) mediums of the bone fide kind, on some evenings, accomplished true feats of spiritual counselling and rescue that may have been brought about through intercourse with departed spirits. If England has become the second abode of spiritualism, after France, it is largely owing to the wide readership it could possibly have given the choice of the English language as the main channel of propagation of theosophical ideas at the end of the 19th century, and before that, as the lingua franca of the Psychic Research Institutes of both England and America. Victorian England was indeed THE playground of mediums, and that was several decades before the harrowing losses its population had experienced through the first world war. It was ALREADY popular there and then, more than anywhere else in Europe, and even after the first and second it remained a distinct characteristic of the English-speaking world, whereas the other nations, having suffered equally numerous losses in the very same wars, were never as fond of contacting disembodied spirits as the good old English and their obvious penchant for evening games, whether it is bridge or a jolly amusing séance...
Sayers made friends with a man who worked for teh Society for Psychic Research and he told her a lot of stuff about fake mediums and how they did their stuff, and she worked it into the novel...also giving Miss Climpson the experience of having met a man from the Society for Psychic Research, which was why she was able to produce some eerie effects and convince the nurse....
Not only England but also a great many countries in the European world suffered immense losses of young lives. Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand in the English-speaking world. Also Belgium and France (the Netherlands remained neutral during the Great War). And we mustn't forget the poor young German lads either, who after all were merely puppets and cannon fodder just like all the rest. They too suffered terrible losses and injuries. Innumerable young lads from all over the European world 'survived' the Great War (in the sense that they were not killed outright), but were terribly maimed, mutilated, gassed and/or shell-shocked.
I ran into Harriet Walter during intermission of a play on Broadway. I so wanted to walk up to her and tell her how much I loved her work but lost my nerve.
I can hardly blame you, she would be a strong and amazing woman. Did anyone understand what Dorothy Sayers was getting at with, "not so particularly beautiful, but eyes put in with a smutty finger." I've wondered.
@@grantwriter7777 smutty as in smudged, not lewd. :) She was pointing out the smokiness of her eyes.
The whole thing is thoroughly exquisite...if i might say.
Frightfully so, old bean. Cheerio.
And Lord Peter as well.
The actress Harriet has been in a Hercule Poirot. ( head mistress of a private girls school) also in Inspector Morse as a psychologist. I really enjoy Dorothy Sayers with a pot of chamomile tea and candlelight, nice way to end a hectic day.
Yeah, Harriet Walter is pretty awesome. She was also the nasty sister-in-law in Sense and Sensibility (the Emma Thompson version).
@@lisahorton3455 And she was in a very memorable Midsomer Murder.
@@carolinebarnes6832 and she is Christopher Lee's niece too
And Star Wars :) star-wars-canon.fandom.com/wiki/Harriet_Walter
And she’s still killing it in Killing Eve!
Delightful! Thank you!!
Lord Peter Wimsey was my first hardcore crush. I fell in love with him when I was in middle school.
And I was mid-life ...
What a delightful find !!!!
Miss Murchison, Mr. Urquhart and Bunter were all major characters/actors in the 1974 version of the “Poldark” series. Lots of fun!
Oh how fun! I didn't know, and am delighted to hear it!!
Thanks for helping me with Miss Murchison and where I had seen her before. She has a very specific feature with her mouth and now I see it is Verity from the original Poldark series. 👏🏼
Oh yes! I knew I recognised Urquhart's face, but couldn't place him!
Ms Clemson absolutely and divinely hilarious in the spirit medium seasion.
Ms Clemson is absolutely and divinely hilarious in the spirit medium session.
Miss Climpson.
Good adaption - but the book has one additional romantic subplot and other details that make it worth reading. And in particular a much better and more satisfactory final scene. And, as far as I know, the books can still be easily bought.
Even better than reading it is listening to Ian Carmichael's reading/performance of the audiobook/s -- every time I do I hear new things in Sayres' text/s I never noticed before :)
Bliss bliss bliss utter bliss.
Loving this. Again😊
Brilliant film; superb acting.
Kept expecting to see Tricky-Woo appear on the Duchess's lap... lol
Scott was a beautiful woman, even in her later years. Loved her in All Creatures.
I've always enjoy watching Clive Francis. He possess a touch of grace even in anger.
Funny that he and Richard Morant were in the first dramatisation of Poldark and played “the aftermath of Francis’ suicide attempt” scene together.
Thanks for the series! I've already read the book, but it's interesting to watch the film nevertheless.
Very beautifully filmed and acted.
Drat!, another evening with Bunter and Brandy! Thanks!
What an appalling thought ;-)
Very good, lovely clear filming in this version. Thank you
The accents....oh my, how polite and elegan-sounding!
I really enjoyed this production of the Lord peter wimsey stories. Would the odious Mr Vaughan inherit any fortune left by Cremona Gardens? As he is he one mentioned in the will.
Smashing series old chap 😉
Rather, old bean. Cheerio.
Watching it over and over!👍
My, my, Ms. Clemson is a clever one, isn’t she?! 🤔🤭🤫. 🌈
Miss Climpson. Unfortunately the neutral title 'Ms' had not yet made its appearance.
G The “test” Harriet was subjected to is based on an actual experience of Ms. Sayers, except that she became pregnant by the scoundrel and gave up her son for adoption by a family member. He was raised to think of her as his aunt
not his aunt, his adoptive mother. And it wasn't the father of her son who "tested" her, it was a writer called John Cournous, who told her he did not want to marry, and they had a relationship which DLS broke off. Then she had an affair with the man who fathered her child.
@@glen7318 Oh Dear! Dorothy Sayers did not have an easy time of it. It is a mark of greatness that one can turn the most awful things in one's life into inspiration to go on in life, particularly to transcend those memories into something creative and marvelous. I read the book "Such an Odd Woman" about her life, but it wasn't made clear.
@@grantwriter7777 We can be grateful in a way for her difficulties as it was apparently the need for funds to support her son that continued her literary output (the job she took in advertising also produced one of my favorites, Murder Must Advertise -- Ian Carmichael's reading/performance of all of the novels is a treat like no other).
Love the series
I like the way Lord Peter treats his butler.
He has to ...
a) he would probably be lost without him and he would be "a hard act to follow/replace"
b) Bunter is VERY GOOD at what he does ... and thus deserves respect
c) there are probably quite a few secrets which shouldnt be revealed (which Bunter would not do, but others might, cf. "The Master Blackmailer" episode from Sherlock Holmes)
Bunter is a LOT more than a conventional butler. Wimsey treats Bunter more like a friend than a servant because of their history together. Bunter was a Sergeant under his command during the war. Wimsey got buried in a shell hole (with decaying corpses) and Bunter was the one to dig him out. Wimsey suggested Bunter comes to him for a job when they were demobbed. When Peter was very ill at home with shell shock Bunter turned up, took over and helped him recover. It’s all in the books - try Busman’s Honeymoon.
Butter is not just a butler. He is a ‘gentleman’s gentleman’, that is a valet, butler, secretary, confidant and friend.
Argh. BUNTER.
👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic! Thanks a lot for uploading and sharing this great old series.
Best regards, luck and health in particular.
the look of near hostility from Miss Vane at the end was mysterious
The ending is different than that in the book.
@henrimatisse7481
I can see no hostility in her look. She explained everything beforehand. Had she embraced him before living, she would have given him false hopes. Even the touch of her hand would have been too much, so she wouldn`t even shake his hand. She needed to be absolutely free, even free from any attachment to him and his love for her, so she could process her regained freedom and the enormous stress she had to endure during her imprisonment.
All she needed was distance and time after they had spent so much intense time together. There was a lot more that was going on on a psychological level. Even though the ending is a bit unusual and different from the one in the book, it is comprehensible and very cleverly done.
@@lechat8533 I agree with you. Except that in having Peter leave when she wanted to thank him showed what a generous man he was -- he understood just what you have said above, and he respected it. The TV ending tends to diminish that, making him seem a demanding supplicant when the "real" ending proves how much he truly loves her -- something she will come to realise.
Throughout the Peter and Harriet books and films, one theme is her gratitude to him and how it makes HER feel less than whole, and his constant efforts to remove that burden from her. That begins in this book's ending.
Everything in these series so authentic and civilised although I do question the champagne flutes as I thought back in the day one drank champagne from Coupe’s or Saucers - which IMO are so much more suitable to drink Champagne from, especially for men, than silly flimsy flutes with their ridiculously narrow tops.
GOOD POINT! The first champagne flute was designed in England by George Ravenscroft in 1662. The flute was designed to prevent the champagne from going flat. The flute quickly became popular among the aristocracy and the upper class. Personally, I find it is difficult to drink out of, flat or not, and I have more than once, embarrassingly poured a dribble down my gown! The flat crystal bowls are difficult to carry and not slosh, so in my opinion Champagne has been treated badly by the Crystal-makers. In my opinion, Champagne is at little risk of going flat anyway, being delightful stuff!!
Well rendered. I do appreciate the old full size coupes; which allow for a decent pour without over-filling, and of course a decent vintage to always be utilized for such occasions....
It took me up until the seance to realize that was Judy Cornwell. 💖
I had wondered, in episode 2, if that was "our Diasy," but since she did not speak, I was not sure. Like you, I was not fairly certain until the seance.
Very good story. 👍👍👍💜💙🧡🤗
He proposed her when she was still in stress. It was confusing her certainly. She needed time to regain her life and cleared her head from such trouble. She couldn't directly make decision to tie her life with anyone.
Kesa Loma you are so correct. but it did see her evaluating him and finding him most admirable and funny, logical and like a Hero.. but don't you have to admire her reticence to let it show. Once bitten and all that.
@@shirleysavitts9647 yes. That's right. Goodness finally they're together
How pathetically simplistic and chauvinistic. Try again, but this time with empathy rather than ego.
That's true, and actually this scene was not in the original book. He drove away so that she wouldn't feel obliged to thank him
The behaviour of the lady, Harriet Vane, would have been considered shockingly ungrateful and therefore improper in the England of Sayers' younger years. A reflection of the 1920's perhaps. But this level of emancipation would not been reached before the 1979's. I think Sayer's wanted to make a statement in protest of the dependency of women of men. And that elevates this story to a more important and thereby more interesting level.
DLS’s biography is enthralling. And yes, she’s an intellectual and feminist, and Harriet contains a lot of her experience.
Bunter is hot in more ways than one. That's the kind of manservant I want.
Sir Peter reminds me of my grandfather he was a dignified man
The scene just before Harriet Vane turns and walks away from Lord Peter seemed unlikely. It just seems to me that she would have been mobbed by reporters!
I enjoyed all three parts till the very very end when they all left the courtroom all the people we're so happy the people just watching the hearing. But also was Lord Peter and she walked out he's standing there patiently waiting, she looks at him and walk the opposite direction in a very conceited manner, [ Quite ungrateful. ] But thank you, ever so much
She was either conceited not ungrateful. Rather she was emotionally tired, exhausted and suffering from a severe bout of insecurity and poor self image. She did not feel that she was good enough for him and tried to 'save' him by not allowing him to become involved with her. One must read the books, preferably in order, to get the full background to the stories.
He will eventually realize that trying to start a romance with a prisoner struggling with a false accusation of murder and facing almost immediate execution is a selfish way to behave. They will both struggle to move past this. The books cover the relationship in greater depth.
@@kjf5681 Well said. That's exactly how it was.
@@dindinprivate3477 Harriet was neither conceited nor ungrateful. But she had been through a traumatic experience. She needed to settle down emotionally to be able to respond freely and honestly to the fascinating Lord Peter.
If it helps, in the novel it's the opposite- after Harriet turns him down at the prison, she runs up to thank him but he's already left. I really dislike this change for the adaptation.
Poor Daisy. Onslow didn't care, so we can't really blame her new interests.
I love Judy Cornwell!
Edward Petherbridge would have been excellent in Murder Must Advertise ... my favourite book by D L Sayers. Lord Peter's gift for witticism was ideal in the role of an advertising executive !
Judy Cornwell playing Miss Booth. She is more known today for playing Daisy in the TV series, Keeping Up Appearances
This is excellent.
Fun show second time to watch!
Perfect!
This ending is terrible….it makes Harriet look such an ingrate, when in the novel, she rushes to thank him, only to find that he already left. And this becomes _the_ very important area of conflict between them in the coming novels, bc Harriet becomes very bitter about the debt of gratitude she feels she owes him, when in reality, she uses this bitterness to camouflage her love for him. I’ll never understand why the people responsible for adapting excellent novels for the large or small screen always feel the need to change them in the most incomprehensible and arbitrary ways!
Yes, it's a major flaw in the series overall- it does a lot to remove, for some reason, the central conflict that Peter and Harriet's romance is centered around in the novels- her indebtedness to him and his awareness of the fact. I can live with MOST of the changes to their relationship in this novel (they're different, but good in their own way) except for the ending; I think that Have His Carcase is as good an adaptation as they were going to get, with the exception of a bit too much pushiness from Peter; and the adaptation of Gaudy Night is AWFUL. I still watch it because I can't get enough of them, particularly Harriet, but their relationship progression and the ending are just so wrong. Whose idea was it to change the extremely iconic proposal, if nothing else?!
@@gkidz4 I agree with you. And Gaudy Night, far and away the best book, is far and away the worst of these adaptations. This is all right, aside from the ending, but Have His Carcase is the best of the three.
Good one, and captions too!
Perfect ty so much.
Lord Peter is a supreme democrat. He treats all his coworkers extremely well indeed.
They changed the endind...He left her without seeing her. And she was disappointed...but she had her friends with her.
They should have kept that ending. It emphasized how good Peter was; that he wasn't going to demand her gratitude, or even worse a "payment". This ending makes Peter a miserable white knight and gives Harriet no option but to be ungrateful.
A nice production and it's easy to see how/why Dame Agatha was so much influenced by the clever Ms. Sayers.
Agatha Christie was 3 years older than Dorothy L. Sayers and I believe was writing her murder mysteries before Sayers wrote hers so if anyone was influencing anyone else, it was Christie who influenced Sayers not the other way around.
@@gisawslonim9716 Sayers read lots of detective stories, before she started writing them.. but I think if anyone was a particular influence on her it was Conan Doyle and Sherlock Holmes.
Agatha Christie specialised in murder mysteries whereas Dorothy Sayers was much more interested in scholarly work. Harriet in this book makes a number of remarks about the murder mystery genre, not exactly complementary.
@@geoffreycodnett6570 Harriet is a mystery writer.....
The Floating Admiral is a collaborative detective novel written by fourteen members of the British Detection Club in 1931. The twelve chapters of the story were each written by a different author including Christie and Sayers. From what I’ve read they were not close friends but were on good terms and respected each others work.
Just perfect!
Yes,over and over!👍
Excellent.
Wanderful 5 🌟☮️.
Amen you Re so right!
Miss Climpson just happened to be an expert on the tricks used by phony mediums, and to have the necessary equipment with her ? What a coincidence !
it is explained in the book tht she met someone from the Psychic research society and learned about the tricks form him.. and she buys the stuff that she needs
I rather think Miss Climpson could rise to any occasion. Not for nothing did Peter make her the head of his investigations bureau, exposing frauds and scams. I could do with another book or two elucidating Miss Climpson!
@@grantwriter7777 An interesting thought -- have you read or listened to the novels by Jill Paton Walsh who was given permission by the literary executors to complete two novels Sayres had roughed out? (She also did two of her own with the characters, one wonderful, one not). Given how bad the more recent novel was I don't know if she retains the capability but it might be an interesting proposal for someone to make -- you're right, there's a hidden wealth in Miss Climpson.
Very nice. Thanks
ouch, in the end not even a thank you, she's more ruthless than the killer
Spinach- Typical!!
no no - remember the Englishness. No gush, no icky sentiment, pre-Disney. Of course she needs to go away, to Greece, to the sun. She'll be back.
She thanked him in the prison. I still think she should have thanked him in the court house, but she probably didn't want to give him any encouragement romantically. His own fault.
In the book, he doesn't even try to meet her after the acquittal. She looks for him but he's not there. Eliunid Price points out that he's too decent to hover and that if she wants to thank him, she'll have to go to him. VERY different feel than the show.
she was non-stop hostile the whole time...the actress actually plays her rather well, more of a self-absorbed friend-zoner
Keeping up Appearances. The old lady’s nurse played on that British Citcom
Perfect.
Dang this is good