Very interesting Setup, especially short cranks, and for my taste narrow handlebar.. Must give something like this a shot if I get the opportunity. Thanks for sharing!
Nice one Joe, great bike tips there, like the the one with the brakes and the smaller discs :) how often do you clean/change the brake pads? its the one thing that doesn't seem to hold out for very long on my trail slaying machine :D...cheers in advance
Hard to stay on top of these thing's in the winter cause they never get any proper heat in them to harden up. But well worth a good a bed sesh on the street before hitting the muck. Summer they last ages, winter probably swap pads out once a month.
Looking into getting the formula shock. Does the shock have any progressive built in? Love the feeling of coil shocks just wish you could adjust the progression ramp.
Looks incredible. I haven't built one yet but once I'm back home from the alps and getting set in for winter I really want to give one a go. More aggressive geo a bit less travel I think would make an amazing fun bike for chucking about. When I was choosing what bike to do the check on I rode the five most of the summer and been loving it so an obvious choice.
Weird choice of name I think, it seems to share more DNA with the Orange Four than the Five. Orange Four Evo would have made more sense as a name to me.
Cheers Joe. One setup-related question. You obviously run a large mudguard for Scotland and I guess goggles always. Do you have any tips on keeping goggles clean during races or when out on longer rides? Do you use tear-offs or anything like that? Thanks in advance.
For racing organisation is key. A sealed sandwidge bag full with clean bog roll and then whap the goggles on just before leaving then straight back in the bag at the bottom. I have done really wet races and kept the goggles functioning all day this way. Tear offs aren't allowed cause of littering and rollers are just too much faff for a enduro race/day out where water can get under the film or into the system. So for me, either the sarny bag to keep them fully dry or a bit of tissue placed inside the lens and then tuck them under your jacket for the way up.
General idea is the longer the bike the more you raise your bars and with bikes getting longer and longer then bar height from BB up needs adjusted accordingly. If the bar height remains the same and bike grows then you're essentially riding in a deeper push up than before and then could be even overweighting the front wheel too much. So my thinking is maybe this was the case before but now there is room to up the bars a bit to find the correct balance. Chain stay length also comes into play as does everything but with the front centres growing I have found myself to be upping the bar height also. I am definitely a fan of weighting the front but if your neutral riding position is as balanced as possible then you can ride as relaxed as possible and push the front more when you need it. Hope this helps
What are you using to mount the dropper lever to brake lever? I also run a one up with Tech lever but had to butcher a piece of plastic to make it work.....drives me crazy tho as there’s always a couple of mm movement before the lever releases
Your right. I got the direct mount to sram from hope and then went to pair it with the one up lever. But both got direct from the other side so it doesn't actually fit straight on. I did a quick filing job and it works well and looks neat now. I'm away just now but will get some pics when i get home. Also ill mention it to hope/one up to see if they can get a stock piece machined for this combo
@@evenkristoffersen6501 that's the one i adapted. Like i said, ill mention it to hope to see if they can get one machined as i think its a popular combo
I had never heard of any compatibility issues. For me, 12speed chain straight on, no drag or funny pick ups and runs really well. Not problems over here👍
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 Good to know! Yeah, maybe if the chainring is worn in a little there won't be an issue. Maybe just worth checking on a fresh chainring and chain. Sweet ride! Cheers
I have the Fortus26 on my race bike but had these Tech's already at home when building this bike up. Great wheels and still running straight so I kept them on. If I ever replace them I'll be going for the Fortus as hopes new model
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 ok, waiting on some more how to's some sugesteons are how to build a track, and some skills, and show us some hacks you have learned from all of your expirience thru years of mountain biking.
Formula really do make beautiful suspension products. That coil is the nicest looking piggy back I have ever seen.
I agree!
If these weren't sold out I'd be on one myself. Such a good build.
That was some crisp audio! Awesome.
Lovely lovely bike, dream bike material there
Great to see all the details
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Thats a proper bike check!
Nice bike check Joe!! Glad to see someone else running 165mm cranks. Looked like the midges were bad when you were filming
Dude...never mind the bike..i was itching just watching you...stayed in the Bunkhouse in Corpach a couple of weeks ago and got eaten alive
Very interesting Setup, especially short cranks, and for my taste narrow handlebar.. Must give something like this a shot if I get the opportunity. Thanks for sharing!
Nice one Joe, great bike tips there, like the the one with the brakes and the smaller discs :) how often do you clean/change the brake pads? its the one thing that doesn't seem to hold out for very long on my trail slaying machine :D...cheers in advance
Hard to stay on top of these thing's in the winter cause they never get any proper heat in them to harden up. But well worth a good a bed sesh on the street before hitting the muck.
Summer they last ages, winter probably swap pads out once a month.
Looking into getting the formula shock. Does the shock have any progressive built in? Love the feeling of coil shocks just wish you could adjust the progression ramp.
I love it!, btw how did you like the 5 evo? Seemed more advance goe
Looks incredible. I haven't built one yet but once I'm back home from the alps and getting set in for winter I really want to give one a go. More aggressive geo a bit less travel I think would make an amazing fun bike for chucking about. When I was choosing what bike to do the check on I rode the five most of the summer and been loving it so an obvious choice.
Weird choice of name I think, it seems to share more DNA with the Orange Four than the Five. Orange Four Evo would have made more sense as a name to me.
@@superspecky4eyes yea probably right there
Cheers Joe. One setup-related question. You obviously run a large mudguard for Scotland and I guess goggles always. Do you have any tips on keeping goggles clean during races or when out on longer rides? Do you use tear-offs or anything like that? Thanks in advance.
For racing organisation is key. A sealed sandwidge bag full with clean bog roll and then whap the goggles on just before leaving then straight back in the bag at the bottom. I have done really wet races and kept the goggles functioning all day this way.
Tear offs aren't allowed cause of littering and rollers are just too much faff for a enduro race/day out where water can get under the film or into the system.
So for me, either the sarny bag to keep them fully dry or a bit of tissue placed inside the lens and then tuck them under your jacket for the way up.
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 Awesome, will give that a go. Thanks for the detailed reply and good luck! 👍
Nice Joe . How heavy are you , just to get an idea with tyre pressures. Cheers
69kg
Hi Joe, what's the thinking with the high rise bar? I was taught go as low as you can to help get weight on the front. Cheers
General idea is the longer the bike the more you raise your bars and with bikes getting longer and longer then bar height from BB up needs adjusted accordingly. If the bar height remains the same and bike grows then you're essentially riding in a deeper push up than before and then could be even overweighting the front wheel too much. So my thinking is maybe this was the case before but now there is room to up the bars a bit to find the correct balance. Chain stay length also comes into play as does everything but with the front centres growing I have found myself to be upping the bar height also.
I am definitely a fan of weighting the front but if your neutral riding position is as balanced as possible then you can ride as relaxed as possible and push the front more when you need it. Hope this helps
What are you using to mount the dropper lever to brake lever? I also run a one up with Tech lever but had to butcher a piece of plastic to make it work.....drives me crazy tho as there’s always a couple of mm movement before the lever releases
Same question? Is there a specific mount for hope brakes to one up lever?
maybe this www.hopetech.com/products/brakes/accessories/shifter-mounts/
Your right. I got the direct mount to sram from hope and then went to pair it with the one up lever. But both got direct from the other side so it doesn't actually fit straight on. I did a quick filing job and it works well and looks neat now. I'm away just now but will get some pics when i get home.
Also ill mention it to hope/one up to see if they can get a stock piece machined for this combo
@@evenkristoffersen6501 that's the one i adapted. Like i said, ill mention it to hope to see if they can get one machined as i think its a popular combo
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 i also took a dremmel to one of those! works ok but there is a tiny bit of movement and works itself loose...
Hi Joe, you mentioned the -1 one headset cup(s) , were these a one off from Hope ?
Its a Works components one I already had when playing with set up. Be real nice to get a silver anodised quality hope set made up.
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 Cheers , will take a look
So was the Hope chainring compatible with the 12sp Shimano chain? Rumor is you have to swap the quick link with a sram or kmc link to make it work.
I had never heard of any compatibility issues. For me, 12speed chain straight on, no drag or funny pick ups and runs really well. Not problems over here👍
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 Good to know! Yeah, maybe if the chainring is worn in a little there won't be an issue. Maybe just worth checking on a fresh chainring and chain. Sweet ride! Cheers
@@fran7en Thanks for the info👍
1.42 you forgot a bolt man
why are you using hope tech enduro and not hope tech fortus?
I have the Fortus26 on my race bike but had these Tech's already at home when building this bike up. Great wheels and still running straight so I kept them on. If I ever replace them I'll be going for the Fortus as hopes new model
@@joebarnes_hazzardracing2913 ok, waiting on some more how to's
some sugesteons are how to build a track, and some skills, and show us some hacks you have learned from all of your expirience thru years of mountain biking.
hello Joe.
remind us again how tall you are Joe?
173cm Luc
Can anyone advise on a rear mud guard for the Orange 5?
The only real option is an one under the seat style one on this bike. Mucky Nutz do one called the Butt Fender that would work well.
Missing some disc bolt there mate. 🤔🤔
Saving time/weight, haha. 4 is all you need
How come you don’t have a p7 😘
Got a crush instead ❤️
i like how they ride but the looks are so 86