@LuciaLight100 I have to agree she never led him on that the baby was his but accepted that he wanted to be the father. Lip hurt himself for getting his hopes up, he knew she slept with half of Southside.
Everyone's reactions to the baby being "Asian" was priceless especially when Lip finds out he's not the father after all. this is like a Jerry Springer episode waiting to happen!
So karen didnt want the baby. Jeff and alana bailed out on the adoption, lip wasnt the father. Talk about luck worst than the Gallaghers or the Milkovitches. That baby was truly alone in the beginning if it hadnt been for sheila
Even Jody stepped up and helped even though Karen F'ed him over. I'm glad the Wongs stepped in though once they found out, yes they wanted to try and "cure" him but they still loved him enough to want him. Karen clearly wanted to get rid of him and never have to deal with him again. Atleast even Lip agreed with Shelia that she should be allowed to keep him for Hymies sake or atleast let Tim Wong know and help out. Karen was such a manipulative brat.
Can't understand why Lip still wanted Karen after Frank and then the baby. He was better off with Mandy. At least she wanted what was best for him and actually cared
It's because the Gallagher's are f'd up. They always go for the worst choice, Carl is the only one that made a good life for himself. His character development was incredible
I think he wanted her once he couldn't have her, the more she pushed him away the more he wanted her. He didn't really have interest in being with Karen when she asked "what are we?" In season one, until she said, "I think we should just be friends. ".. he likes girls who were extremely toxic for him. He didn't want Karen anymore once he picked Mandy over her in season 3 after Karen slowly started throwing herself at him again. Same with Karen, only wanted him once she couldn't have him.
@@desisarod she didn't explicitly make it known to him. she might have said the words but she was not conclusively getting the message across. she KNEW that she was leading him on with the thought that he was the father. making excuses for it is literally why it happens ALL. THE. TIME. in real life.
Then you would be in the wrong. She told him over and over and over that there was a very good chance the baby wasn't his. Lip wanted it to be his and ignored this. Lip is the only one at fault here...
They were never together though just fwb... they only ever wanted each other when they couldn't have one another. It just wasn't meant to be in the writers mind. Two toxic and confused teenagers.
Karen, worse in my opinion, even though Debbie’s character declined dramatically and she became unbearable in the later seasons at least it was for a reason a lot of guys didn’t want to be committed to her so she started going against them and becoming gay. That’s fine at all, but the way she treated others in the end was terrible Karen on the other hand I disliked her since season one she’s not committed doesn’t care who she hurts. And only wants to be a sex toy basically
This situation is messed up. Lip should have known from the start that Karen was not good for him. It's wrong to trick someone into thinking they are having a child that is not theirs. I'm glad Lip finally realized Karen is a terrible person.
@@dumptruck_babs he was Asian because the guy’s girl who is giving birth to the baby was not his baby but a Asian guy’s baby so yes the baby was Asian and didn’t have Down syndrome
I know the show never outright says it, but I bet her father was touching her when she was very little. Why else did he go completely crazy after she confessed to being with all those guys?
@@SoulReaperSlayer19that sucks but not everyone who has been touched is like that maybe she is just evil hell the things done to me when I was younger I wish I can forget and forgive but I can’t and it’s a struggle, but I thankful for a wife and three kids that tell me they love me and I shouldn’t act like how people who are betrayed as sexually abused people are portrayed and shows, and movie as real bad people those people who have been abused or in a bad place
Teenage boy runs into cute girl willing to give him attention? He might be brilliant but at this point in the series he was also definitely a dumb hormonal teenager.
@@elizabethperry2622no that was only part of it. As multiple people have said and speculated, Lip saw Monica in Karen. He kept chasing the women who abandoned him.
The thing is, she led Lip on, she did not officially say you are not the father. She led him on the second she said stay away from this baby, if anyone was in his position he would have been led to believe it was his too
"I never said it was your baby" You never clarified it could've been someone else's baby, you let him come to all those meetings with the potential parents. Why wouldn't he come to the conclusion that he was the father? What a psycho.
She had an evil father, that’s how. If Sheila had left her husband when Karen was a baby maybe Karen would’ve grew up a better person but unfortunately, too much of her father rubbed off on her.
Lip really loved Karen. I like how that was a part of the show because as a person with childhood trauma myself I as well spent a long time being attracted to toxic and soulless people. It is one of the many sad realities of a bad childhood.
Looks like Lip finally opened his eyes, and saw Karen for who she really is. What on earth possessed Lip to fall for a heartless monster like Karen in the first place?
I find it kind of funny they had to use a full asian baby, otherwise people wouldn't have been able to tell. We half asians are pretty racially ambiguous at birth, that definitely ain't no half asian baby LOL.
That's a The Office reference, right? Lol this scene actually reminded me of another reference to the same show. Angela is about to have the senator's baby Kevin: "Wouldn't it be hilarious if the baby came out black?" Darryl: "Why would that be hilarious? Would it be funnier than a chinese baby?" Kevin: "Yeah, a little bit. Help me out guys"
not relevant but the ending did not give closure to all the characters but two things that caught my eye are debbie falling for heidi just like fiona fell for steve and the fact carl saw tish being pregnant and wondered if that was his baby is similar to lip the same way with karen
I mean the fact that his grandmother was the one taking him from the hospital at the end of the video so he wouldn't end up in the system showed at least someone cared about him
I remember laughing at first at the reveal that it wasn't Lip's baby (And at Steve Howey's reaction to seeing the baby come out) But then Lip goes out to the adoptive parents and the laughs immediately stopped. The show was always very skilled at managing those tonal shifts.
Can we please make a show about Fiona growing up with a younger Frank an his mom & Fiona in it!! It could be called Shame or something… I think it’d be really cool to see them both when they were younger..
I don't know what she expected after instigating the hell out of Mandy. She was dumb for that. She was so jealous of Mandy and Lips relationship that she didn't think before she spoke. She didn't want Lip but didn't want to lose her safety net either.
Don’t spoil it, but anyways I think she’s faking all of that. I’m only on season 7 so if she comes back I expect her to get called out by Lip very soon. Even if he doesn’t I think she’s lying. Remember Lip was the only one that knew her good girl act was a lie when she was first got back after running away from home.
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He didn't realize it at the time, but he dodged a nuclear bomb by that child not being his.
He was so eager to ruin his life
They didn't intend to keep the child anyway
Yup!!!😂😂😂😂😂
He didn't dodge anything lmao
He kept walking into the line of fire until the shooter ran out of bullets.
Same with Jody.
if the child was his, he was going to get adopted, it was decided, he pick the parents... they were waiting outside
“I never said it was your baby”
But you lead him to believe he was the father🙄
No she didn’t. She told him so many times it might not be his.
@LuciaLight100 I have to agree she never led him on that the baby was his but accepted that he wanted to be the father. Lip hurt himself for getting his hopes up, he knew she slept with half of Southside.
She did tell some random guy it was his for money though.
Oh, that is absolutely heinous
You didn’t watch the show.
"maybe he's upside down".....I just can't with Kev lol 😆
In the words of Veronica, "It's all the inbreeding "
I love Kev. He’s always trying to look on the bright side of things. 😂
I never understood how Lip could ever be so loyal and attracted to this soulless monster
The show never made sense
Good suck makes blood go down to junk area.
Good pussee
Cause it's a show
Because he’s fucked up. I used to be that guy. I finally learned that I am better than that.
Karen is a monster
And the fact that the adoption parents were devastated
It’s because there were expecting a healthy white baby not a Asian baby with Down syndrome
I agree Karen is a monster. But the adoptive parents backed out because the baby had down syndrome. Kind of hard to sympathize with them for me.
@@jacefaulk8792 and also because they thought the baby was gonna be white
@@TheSerialRapistBoth reasons would have made me back out your better then me 😬
@@jacefaulk8792 not really. It would be devastating to find out your kid had Down syndrome
The only show honest about what dating trash is really like
so true actually
Sumbodys mad cuz they got cheated on lmfao
@@LESTIFISA That is what is happening in the scene, yes. Good observation little buddy.
@@LESTIFISANobody likes getting cheated on, d!p$h!t
@@LESTIFISA and isnt it understandable ???
Why are there 40 people allowed in the delivery room?
Cause it's a show.not expected to makes sense
Welcome to Chicago!
You voted for that!
@@SoulReaperSlayer19 that has nothing to do with this, god you guys are fucking stupid
Cause it’s not real. It’s a show.
Times before COVID were crazy
Everyone's reactions to the baby being "Asian" was priceless especially when Lip finds out he's not the father after all. this is like a Jerry Springer episode waiting to happen!
Reminds me of the White Christmas episode where the poor white sod finally meets his estranged daughter only to realize she's Asian
How did those people allow Sheila to escape so easily with that baby? 😂😂😂
Welcome to Chicago
@@driftkingofforzatrueameric991spoken like someone who has never set foot in Chicago or any major city
Because it’s a tv show.
Baby was asian, so soup or kidnapped by hobos.
I live in NY and shit like this has happened before. @@diallo1347
So karen didnt want the baby. Jeff and alana bailed out on the adoption, lip wasnt the father. Talk about luck worst than the Gallaghers or the Milkovitches. That baby was truly alone in the beginning if it hadnt been for sheila
And he was born with down syndrome too
Even Jody stepped up and helped even though Karen F'ed him over. I'm glad the Wongs stepped in though once they found out, yes they wanted to try and "cure" him but they still loved him enough to want him. Karen clearly wanted to get rid of him and never have to deal with him again. Atleast even Lip agreed with Shelia that she should be allowed to keep him for Hymies sake or atleast let Tim Wong know and help out. Karen was such a manipulative brat.
She got hit by a car right? Was so satisfying to watch that part. Then it got weird with the sex.
@@NabeelKhan-lx2ly I’m sure OP knows what that’s like, don’t ya Evan Bourne, Jason’s younger less talented brother
My favorite part is when Sheila chooses the baby over Karen. It was an awesome scene
Can't understand why Lip still wanted Karen after Frank and then the baby. He was better off with Mandy. At least she wanted what was best for him and actually cared
It's because the Gallagher's are f'd up. They always go for the worst choice, Carl is the only one that made a good life for himself. His character development was incredible
Karen reminded him of Monica. He was chasing the woman who abandoned him.
Edit: spelling error
I think he wanted her once he couldn't have her, the more she pushed him away the more he wanted her. He didn't really have interest in being with Karen when she asked "what are we?" In season one, until she said, "I think we should just be friends. ".. he likes girls who were extremely toxic for him. He didn't want Karen anymore once he picked Mandy over her in season 3 after Karen slowly started throwing herself at him again. Same with Karen, only wanted him once she couldn't have him.
I think Lip and Ian ended up ok
he would have picked Mandy and did but she ran over his ex 😭 if she didnt do that they would have been together in s4
0:30 I half expected someone to mention Frank’s bizarre DNA like “First Liam and Now THIS?
😂😂😂
Same honestly 😂
The way I woulda lost my fucking mind with “I never said it was your baby”
she truly never did... watch it again... theres even a scene when she is on the bus and says " its not your baby" " how do you even know its yours??"
@@desisarodstill doesn’t excuse it
@@ttv_zombiefetus1710 I know, dont get me wrong... but still, it is true!! she never said it was his, though she might have thought it might be his...
@@desisarod she didn't explicitly make it known to him. she might have said the words but she was not conclusively getting the message across. she KNEW that she was leading him on with the thought that he was the father.
making excuses for it is literally why it happens ALL. THE. TIME. in real life.
Then you would be in the wrong. She told him over and over and over that there was a very good chance the baby wasn't his. Lip wanted it to be his and ignored this. Lip is the only one at fault here...
How Lip got back together with Karen after this is beyond me. She’s the second most evil character in Shameless after Debbie.
They were never together though just fwb... they only ever wanted each other when they couldn't have one another. It just wasn't meant to be in the writers mind. Two toxic and confused teenagers.
Thank you! Debbie is a disgusting excuse for a human being
Karen, worse in my opinion, even though Debbie’s character declined dramatically and she became unbearable in the later seasons at least it was for a reason a lot of guys didn’t want to be committed to her so she started going against them and becoming gay. That’s fine at all, but the way she treated others in the end was terrible Karen on the other hand I disliked her since season one she’s not committed doesn’t care who she hurts. And only wants to be a sex toy basically
This situation is messed up. Lip should have known from the start that Karen was not good for him. It's wrong to trick someone into thinking they are having a child that is not theirs. I'm glad Lip finally realized Karen is a terrible person.
She didn't trick him though. She said so many times that it might not be his.
Lip is an idiot.
She talks a lot of shit for someone laying down in that vulnerable position lol
Yeah and he’s Asian 💀 had me dead
Wait so was the kid Asian AND with Down's Syndrome? Or was he just Asian and they mistook it initially for Down's Syndrome?
@@dumptruck_babs he was Asian because the guy’s girl who is giving birth to the baby was not his baby but a Asian guy’s baby so yes the baby was Asian and didn’t have Down syndrome
Asian and Down Syndrome. Though i initially thought they were gonna say Lip has Asian DNA since Liam turned out to be Frank's
@@dumptruck_babs WHAT?!?😂😭
Wow...this made my heart hurt!!! I'm so sorry Lip...there goes my happiness
Karen is downright evil
I know the show never outright says it, but I bet her father was touching her when she was very little.
Why else did he go completely crazy after she confessed to being with all those guys?
@@SoulReaperSlayer19it’s very much hinted at especially with him having the webcam website on his email
@@SoulReaperSlayer19that sucks but not everyone who has been touched is like that maybe she is just evil hell the things done to me when I was younger I wish I can forget and forgive but I can’t and it’s a struggle, but I thankful for a wife and three kids that tell me they love me and I shouldn’t act like how people who are betrayed as sexually abused people are portrayed and shows, and movie as real bad people those people who have been abused or in a bad place
@@willcopeland275
That's bcoz you're a man, men don't get to use excuses to justify their bad behaviour, nor do we get sympathy.
@@SoulReaperSlayer19Makes no sense, but keep reaching I guess
She's just evil
Man that scene right there is a life changer ALONE!!!
"Maybe we are looking at him upside-down."
This guy dodged a poison bullet...
"Yea and he's Asian"😭😭😭
I truly don’t know what Lip saw in Karen
Same bro. She's delusional and super weird.
Maybe that she just liked to have… uh relations.
Teenage boy runs into cute girl willing to give him attention? He might be brilliant but at this point in the series he was also definitely a dumb hormonal teenager.
His mother, prolly!
@@elizabethperry2622no that was only part of it. As multiple people have said and speculated, Lip saw Monica in Karen. He kept chasing the women who abandoned him.
Kevin crying in the background took me out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yo when I tell yall my fucking jaw DROPPED 😭😭 I thought Lip was bouta kill her ass right there
Lip was one of the best characters in TV history. JAW is the bomb -
Jeremy is a hell of an actor.
I hated Karen so much when she dated lip
@@mayb4nk64 and don’t forget she also bang with his father Frank
And feel in love with Sheila when she and Jody(?) Stole the baby back.
@@hollydizon4741 It was r-pe, Frank never consented
The thing is, she led Lip on, she did not officially say you are not the father. She led him on the second she said stay away from this baby, if anyone was in his position he would have been led to believe it was his too
She couldn't say he's not the father because she literally didn't know who the bio father is and Lip knew about it. He led himself on.
LMFAOONSNSNS WHAT ??? 0:32
That situation was so bad that even the adoptive parents bailed.
Is no one gonna talk about how the song at the end of the episode is such a banger?
Yah what is the name?
@@Aiodeus Get on the Road - Tired Pony
Kevin was the best big bro energy
Way to go Timmy Wong!!!
2:05 - I never NOT see Goku whenever I see that guy.
He's a beautiful baby i love beautiful almond eyes God bless Sheila
I wouldn’t want it either in all honesty
"I never said it was your baby" You never clarified it could've been someone else's baby, you let him come to all those meetings with the potential parents. Why wouldn't he come to the conclusion that he was the father? What a psycho.
Security in that hospital sucks.
What’s the name of the song that was playing at the end of the video?
These people are their worst enemies
Are we gonna talk about how cute the baby is
Shela was a goddamm saint. Idk how karen came out of her
She had an evil father, that’s how. If Sheila had left her husband when Karen was a baby maybe Karen would’ve grew up a better person but unfortunately, too much of her father rubbed off on her.
@@Janu-lj9hf Her father was a religious freak but he was never a bad guy.
Sad and angry at the same time…great scene
Lip should go wild for that!
Lip really loved Karen. I like how that was a part of the show because as a person with childhood trauma myself I as well spent a long time being attracted to toxic and soulless people. It is one of the many sad realities of a bad childhood.
Poor guy got cucked, paternity fraud should be a secondary misdemeanor if not a third degree felony depends on how much money and time was extracted.
Nobody is talking about the baby.He is disowned from one hand to other .😢😢😢
anyone know the song playing at the end?
Looks like Lip finally opened his eyes, and saw Karen for who she really is. What on earth possessed Lip to fall for a heartless monster like Karen in the first place?
Poor kid. They're innocent.
That poor baby :(
Sheila was the best lol
Sheila was an amazing character
Most normal delivery in Chicago.
She's the most perfect depiction of what a real western women is, it's so accurate that it's terifying 😅
it's giving bitchless
I find it kind of funny they had to use a full asian baby, otherwise people wouldn't have been able to tell. We half asians are pretty racially ambiguous at birth, that definitely ain't no half asian baby LOL.
Karen issue was she didn’t know how to deal with embarrassment
that’s such a good point
I Hated Karen she didn't deserve Lip or anyone she cared about no one but herself
Human nature 101
Happy they started advertising such a good show.
I just picture the beginning part of this being Cal and Greez celebrating on the birth of Cal and Merrin's son.
Baby: youve seriously never noticed ? Well hats off to you for not seeing race.
That's a The Office reference, right? Lol this scene actually reminded me of another reference to the same show.
Angela is about to have the senator's baby
Kevin: "Wouldn't it be hilarious if the baby came out black?"
Darryl: "Why would that be hilarious? Would it be funnier than a chinese baby?"
Kevin: "Yeah, a little bit. Help me out guys"
Who stole the baby in the end?
It was Shelia, Karen’s mom
@@ChaoticScrimblo Thank you
If this story ever resembles real life it Falls to this saying... never trust a 304...
I couldn’t watch this show. From what I’ve seen I’d just be pissed all the time.
Fr, I know it has amazing good actors and a good story but it’s nothing but tragedy and doucebagness. I guess it’s called shameless for a reason.
You have no emotional maturity to enjoy a show about the realism of 2009
at least the baby was a "him" not a "it" at this point
Get off the internet, it’s frying your brain
Always dna test the baby, always
I dont know what I would do. I'd lose it. I'd run.
Sadly this how reality is.
Uh- oh. This scene killed me when everybody was there 😅... the girl is for the streets.
And somehow she still thinks he's the bad guy for dumping her
I feel bad for the baby
I won't forget seeing the 😺 in this episode
not relevant but the ending did not give closure to all the characters but two things that caught my eye are debbie falling for heidi just like fiona fell for steve and the fact carl saw tish being pregnant and wondered if that was his baby is similar to lip the same way with karen
That's crazy😂
baby on the motorbike omg, I know shameless is suppose to be a comedy drama but wtf did I just watch ahah, this is so american like
Shameless is 100% correct
Art bleeds into reality.
That poor baby.
Its crazy that people think of this as entertainment when theyre one bad decision away from this being reality
Is there no security in that hospital?
I think lip kinda prove what most of us see in reality that men love women who don't give shit about them ..not all of them but most do
If Lip isn't a Simp. I don't know why people invented the word.
No baby should come into this world being unwanted. I felt really bad how nobody cared about the baby once he was born 😭
I mean the fact that his grandmother was the one taking him from the hospital at the end of the video so he wouldn't end up in the system showed at least someone cared about him
I remember laughing at first at the reveal that it wasn't Lip's baby (And at Steve Howey's reaction to seeing the baby come out) But then Lip goes out to the adoptive parents and the laughs immediately stopped. The show was always very skilled at managing those tonal shifts.
is there a backstory to the couple that stole the baby?
The baby's grandmother (the blonde's mother) and the blonde's fiancé stole him so he wouldn't end up in the system.
Lip was 100% justified to spend the rest of the show with trust issues.
I don't remember this I need to re-watch it
Every children deserve parents, but not every parents deserve a kid
Porque hay tanta gente ahí dentro ???
Really shameless girl
Jamie is sooo cute...
Phillip deserves better & she should be ashamed of herself.
Why the hell is the entire hospital in that delivery room!?? Aren't there other patients
Weird that the foster parents didnt want the kid but i guess it's a shock
She's heartless
Can we please make a show about Fiona growing up with a younger Frank an his mom & Fiona in it!! It could be called Shame or something… I think it’d be really cool to see them both when they were younger..
Cant follow whats happening in this clip at all and ive seen the show.
Father You're Not a Father
Glad she ended up the way she did 😂
I don't know what she expected after instigating the hell out of Mandy. She was dumb for that. She was so jealous of Mandy and Lips relationship that she didn't think before she spoke.
She didn't want Lip but didn't want to lose her safety net either.
How?
Don’t spoil it, but anyways I think she’s faking all of that. I’m only on season 7 so if she comes back I expect her to get called out by Lip very soon. Even if he doesn’t I think she’s lying. Remember Lip was the only one that knew her good girl act was a lie when she was first got back after running away from home.
Was jimmy wearing heels? That was awfully loud walking