How to get a new Rolex Submariner Kermit! For list price!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Stop paying over list for all the watches you want. Here is how it all works, let me know what you all think.
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I own three rolexes all purchased from the same dealer. He now texts me when the new models come out because he knows I collect them. This video is so on point and exactly how it works. There are no shortcuts to building relationships.
Thank you for the kind words brother and congrats on your collection.
You got it completely right. I’d also add that there is no chronological waiting list for customers with no purchase history. Knowing the rules of the Rolex game will save a lot of bitterness. I would also add that one has to decide if they are a collector or just looking for that one piece, which can determine whether you build a purchase history vs going grey market.
Absolutely, there are no list!
Good evening Anthony,
I concur. I believe that loyalty is important in all relationships. One should find a good jeweler, and demonstrate their loyalty.
Absolutely!
Totally agree with you and can speak for myself because this worked for me. I've lurchase a bunch of non Rolex watches, referred customers, attended AD events, purchased jewellery, share articles with them and visit from time to time and last year they got me a Batman and Sub. That relationship took years to build. I want a Pepsi, however, so does everyone and because they've already got me the others, I'll have to wait for awhile. Also, i would suggest not calling and asking for every hot model... pick the ones you really like and be patient. Cheers
That’s well said. Nothing worse than hearing, “do you have a Daytona, blue sky-dweller, Batman, Pepsi or hulk?”
Very well said bud! I’m grateful someone like you on RUclips tells the truth (on how hard-to-get pieces are sold) and wish I can watch your video earlier. I had the chance to purchase around hundred of thousands on different watches (Rolex, VC, JLC, Omega, PP...) and the AD contact me right away after they received the steel Daytona and Black Sub. Thank you! Subscribed.
Truly appreciate the kind words. I try sharing my knowledge and passion on here but unfortunately I get a lot of hate for it, perhaps people just don’t wanna hear the truth.
Thanks for explaining in great detail. The first time I wanted to buy a Rolex, I walked into a Rolex store and they had pretty much nothing. I asked the guy why doesn't he have the Submariner, and he said that they are back ordered for several years. And I got frustrated with his answer because I didn't understand why.
Absolutely! My pleasure.
I think this is true to an extent, but not set in stone. Back in early 2018, I called a random AD located about 2 hours from me and let them know I was interested in a 116610LN Submariner. They politely took my info over the phone, and within 2.5 weeks, they called me saying they got one in and asked if I wanted it. Of course I said yes and drove the 2 hours to pick it up that night. Yes I was extremely fortunate, but I was also persistent in my pursuit. When one AD laughs at you, or slams the door in your face, move on to the next. If you don’t give up, you can make anything happen 👍🏼
You never know! Congrats
It can also help to email your AD from your corporate/work email address to give them some kind of info about yourself, the company that you work for and I also mentioned it was for my private collection and not in a hurry. I believe a fancy job title might help as well, giving them some indication on your importance (and possible budget to spend there). Also some AD's search for new clients that are living a bit further to their store, in my case I was able to get the AP Royal Oak 15500ST Black dial with only one month of waiting and the assistent store director told me they want to build a broader client base outside their province.
I fortunate enough and able to buy a Yacht-Master 40, Submariner 114060 (from stock, no waiting) and AP Royal Oak 15500ST for MSRP. Currently on a 6-months waiting list for the BLNR batgirl (order confirmation and 10% down payment has been made).
Most important is to also enjoy the watch collection journey itself.
Absolutely, have fun with it. Find someone you like working with and talking about timepieces.
People need to stop buying Rolex and stop the insanity. The company has obnoxious business practices for watch designs that are old and boring. I really believe people convince themselves that Rolexes are interesting because of the brand reputation. They change a bezel color and people are willing to pay 50% over retail??? Jackassery when you stop and think about it.
Buying Rolexes at retail is nice, of course, but you can get them immediately on the secondary market. You pay more, but you can also sell them for more. In other words, you most likely won’t lose money if you end up selling, and in some cases you can actually make money.
Hi Anthony thanks you for the video ! I did this move for entering in the rolex world.
I go in my AD the first september 2020 and i introduce myslef, i speak with the vendor and they told me they sell in local customer first. I manage to order a rolex Oyster perputal 41 mmm blue dial as my first rolex and they putting me on the wishlist for the new kermit.
The whole video is true, build a relationship with yout AD and u will be rewarded !
Absolutely! Thank you for commenting.
In order to get a high demand Rolex, you MUST establish loyalty with a large purchase history. At my AD, I have bought 4 Rolexes ($45K), and still not able to get a GMT or steel Daytona.
Great!
My first buy with AD was a BLNR recently got a sub
If you want one you can either pay a premium, buy a few other lesser desired models form an AD to build up a relationship, or buy a AAA fake. The odds of picking one up at RRP are slim to none. You may convince yourself to buy an Omega or some other make, but it ain’t gonna hold its value like Rolex
How I got mine yesterday been a loyal customer for 20 plus years!!!
This is the way! Enjoy!
Good video! I would never pay over retail, but that’s just me. It takes time to get these pieces in to the AD’s, so patience is the key.
Well said.
I've purchased all of them. My dealer called me on the no date the same week it was released and I got the call on the Kermit the following week. I've already done a review on it, side by side with my Hulk. Now I've purchased every single new Submariner, except for the solid yellow gold black dial and the white gold Submariner...although I did purchase the white gold Smurf just before it was discontinued. I also just purchased a white gold Daytona and a white gold Pepsi, with the midnight blue dial. I pretty much own them all now and have nothing left to do but move to another brand! I basically build relationships and show my passion.
slow clap.....NEXT!
I don’t think the territory thing is a strict rule, I have a relationship with an AD in a smaller city a three hour drive from my city (the ADs in my city suck / too many VIP customers with too much cash). They just called with a steel sports I wanted and went on list for a year and half ago (an Air King) - I drove and picked up. To “thank them”, I picked up a speedmaster my son wanted for his birthday. They have me on list now for a Pepsi or Batgirl, I think it will come through in a year or two or three (no rush). Smart advice that if you have other watches or jewelry you like, try to get them at a discount from your Rolex AD, it all helps towards the goal. Don’t buy junk you don’t want though.
Well said.
Once my brother purchased the Oyster Perpetual in a Rolex AD in my town so I jokingly asked the salesperson what should I do for him to offer me a Submariner or a GMT Master.
Perhaps because of my brother's purchase, he admitted that the store policy is that rare sports models will only be offered to VIP customers who have purchased at least around USD 40k from the store, meaning that neither I nor my brother would be able to get one even if they have it in stock.
I don’t think there is a set dollar amount for most dealers. I would recommend being loyal and friendly and you’ll eventually get what you want in moderation.
@@watchwithme91 I sure hope so!
I’ve started a relationship with a Rolex boutique where the place is a privately owned business that exclusively sells Rolex. I’ve made a contact there, and have stopped in 3 times in the past 10 months. My contact has since mailed me a personal note thanking me for my interest and texted me she got in a solid gold GMT recently. I decided to swing for the fences and asked for a Pepsi. They did let me know they have collector clientele that have spent over $100k with them. I wonder if there is an expectation for me to buy a watch that they offer up, like that solid gold GMT in order to get what I want?
Every AD is different but I personally think 100k to justify a Pepsi is crazy.
Exactly how it works, Anthony.
Yup!
Good video Anthony. You nailed it.
Thank you!
It will probably be more expensive to buy an watch from an AD
compared to the gray marker if you have to buy an extra watch.
You don’t have to buy extra watches... but what you want.
Exactly how i got my Kermit in October. Video is spot on!
Thank you! Enjoy it.
Too many of us can have relationships with the local or distant AD.
I have used the toilet at the AD for 50 Saturday’s now, I truly believe we have bonded together. Going to call tommorow to sell me a Daytona. Easypeasy.
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Good advice but when u spend money at a AD retailer your not always guaranteed anyth remember that!
Also true
Bell&Ross watches... I thought they made expensive watches but I noticed prices range from under $100 up to a crazy limited production prices of over $35000! Any thoughts on Bell&Ross watches? must be some cheap knockoff for 100 bucks lol.
Great watches for there price point
Walked into a random AD about 3 weeks ago, asked for a 116508 Paul Newman and the 41mm OP with the Tiffany blue dial. Sat there for a while and had a nice conversation, the man said he will call me when they have the watches available. Two weeks later I get the call, purchased both watches and even got a 5% discount. Not going to be ‘that guy’ and ask for any ceramic stainless steel sport models but I would imagine if you came in looking and ready to buy 3/4 not so popular gold models at full retail, you MAY be offered a new sub, for example.
Makes sense, the gold Daytona is hard to get but not impossible. I would definitely shop at that AD now. You have 40k in watches which will help in the future should you want anything else.
WatchWithMe Ice blue Daytona with baguette Dial next for me 🤣 regret not buying it a year or two ago when they actually sold under retail 🤦♂️ but yes imo if you can help the AD get rid of slow selling stock, they may return the favour and offer you some hot stock. Wish everyone he best of luck getting what they’re after!
@@nda6228 how did you get a 41mm op in the Tiffany oh my the luck!
@@peterm7693 I guess that was before they knew it’d be so hot. I’m still waiting on a call for the green one, been following up in person every two weeks but he says at best he gets 2/3 sent to him every month.
From one RUclipsr to another I greatly appreciate your excuse for not posting a
video in awhile
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well said.........that exactly how it works...........
Yup!
Just found your channel. Great vids! Rolex started doing the same thing as Bourbon. Willfully surprising their supply to create a sense of fomo.
Like bourbon, it has created a highly profitable secondary market. It his pushed several of my watch friends into other brands and buying Rolex reps, likely to never return. It’s a shame, but is what it is.
Perfectly said. I agree.
Unfortunately unless Rolex clamps down on the grey market and flippers these watches will become impossible to buy from an AD. The reason why I say this is the good customers who are not interested in a specific watch buy it anyway to flip at a profit. This only increases demand while supply stays stagnent. Although I am on a waiting list I have started buying other brands because life is too short to wait for years for a watch that may never become available.
Most ADs are always on the lookout for who’s buying the watch, it’s extremely important it goes to someone who’s going to wear and enjoy it and not flip the watch. You’d be surprised how on top of it Rolex is. It can come back and bite the AD if it gets flipped.
What happens if you want the watch? Was always curious about that.
Yosef T you wait
I’ve paid extra to the sales people on the side to gain access to these watches at Tourneau’s in nyc. They didn’t even try to hide me paying them the extra cash in the store. Maybe that’s the norm at Tourneau?
Yikes! That’s extremely shady and if Rolex found out they would be in some serious sh*t
WatchWithMe I understand but I really think it goes on all the time.
How much money are we talking? Thousands to the sales person?
Good point !!
Thank you!
Try to buy a DayDate or a gold sub at full retail and tell him right off the bat if you can have a daytona together with that, if the answer is no, walk out and do not insist buying overpriced jewelry for years, it's going to cost you more than the premium on the grey market.
Thanks for your comment but you’re wrong. Also, I would never suggest buying jewelry you don’t want, if you need it go to the AD of your choice and buy. ADs will vary as well. Some might have clients who purchase 500k plus a year and some 50k plus. That’s why a statement like if I buy a gold Rolex give me a watch that sells for 200% of retail won’t necessarily work.
Great information!
Appreciate that comment brother.
I call these the "Eagles" Rolex...well I did before this current season...
Two new green submariner per yer for one AD
How to get a new one, then shows us his old one 😃. Jk thanks for the video
You would save more money buying on the Grey Market than buying Watches or Jewellery that you don't want from the AD! Not that I'm suggesting people do that. Every RUclipsr such as Paul Thorpe, Roman Scharf and Eric Riveria have said it on their channel.
That’s no true nor did I say you should buy what you don’t want.
@@watchwithme91 it's absolutely true. Two years ago an AD in Toronto told me I had to buy a two tone Datejust worth 30K in order to buy a Hulk. At the time the Hulk was listed for 20K CAD. on the second market. The Grey Market sales associate said 18K cash I can have the Hulk. The math is pretty simple to figure out. This year I inquire about a Pepsi. I even offered to buy a 36mm yellow gold Day Date with diamond bezel and markers at 57K CAD and they still wouldn't sell me the Pepsi. I could have spend 10K above retail on the Grey Market for the Pepsi and save 57K on the Day Date that my wife didn't really want. This is after I already bought two Rolex from the same AD so it's not worth building any relationship with them unless you have an incredible amount of money and into buying things you don't really like just to be able to buy something you like at retail...lol
So based on one AD in Canada this is your prospective... okay. Keep buying grey if you want.
@@watchwithme91 I gave you one example of an AD. I reached out to 5 AD in Toronto and it was all the same. If you don't believe me, why don't you give it a try. It won't be hard for you to find them! Like I said earlier. I'm not suggesting anyone buy from the Grey Market but if anyone wanting a desired model buy from the Grey Market and save money rather than building a relationship with an AD. You should check out Paul Thorpe and Roman Sharf's video. They will tell you the same thing I just did.
I’m sorry, I disagree. I’ve been collecting watches for over 15 years before everyone and their mother starting to for an investment. I’ve also been working in the industry for 10 years “not selling preowned over the internet “so I know what I’m talking about.
Sure…just spend 20-30k on jewelry and other watches so that MAYBE one day you “may” buy a Cermit? Or i just buy a watch from another brand… 😉 Screw Rolex they are not the only brand that makes nice watches.
The title is unfortunately misleading - it should be "how NOT to get a ... for list price".
Not true. Lol
If you have to spend money to buy shit your don’t want, you are not paying retail are you, genius? Lol
Who said buy things you don’t want?
Wrong, AD can sell to anyone from anywhere.
Not Rolex. You’re misinformed.
I had to buy a clone for a hulk:( my retailer is not a Rolex dealer, and I am not a Rolex guy) it’s the only Rolex I wanted. Maybe I find one used, if I still want It. Now wearing AP
Can’t go wrong with an AP!