2:02 "Harding left his position as US President to focus on his new passion of being dead." I love how you always come up with creative new ways to say that someone dies.
I heard Kobe Bryant and Chadwick Boseman are enjoying thier time away from the spotlight and focusing on their hobbies of being dead and haunting the descendants of slave owners.
There was the roaring twenties so people enjoyed it for a while. Thanks to the teetotalers who pushed for the 18th amendment most Americans did so illegally.
Ngl the league of nations was basically pointlessly symbolic. When Japan was asked to explain its actions the Japanese ambassador stood up and left. Because nothing could force them to answer. Basically just the UN but worse somehow.
I'm glad you mentioned Harding's passion for being dead. It's notable that long after being president, even though he's 155 years old, he still finds time to be dead every day.
@Kelvin Government is good, the problem is deregulation and regulating wrong industries. There are too many special interest groups, and not enough groups that represent the people. Also many of the federal and state institutions are toothless compared to wealthy individuals and companies/corporation. Governments provide a needed public good by providing public services that aren't profitable as well as ensuring the minority groups; such as elderly, homeless, disenfranchised, poor, and etc are taken care of and have their voice.
@@MasterGhostf I think he was more talking about- “Hey! You don’t like this candidate that just won and you’re looking to limit the policies you feared he would pass if he won?! Win the midterms! Stop em in their tracks!” Honestly I see midterms as like some sort of revenge type deal- you had a bitter loss and want to limit the other party as much as possible in getting anything done. So like… you didn’t get the presidency but maybe you got the senate or house or maybe both!
Actually, congress didn't like the fact that the league required members to declare war on an aggressive nation that attacked another member. They rightfully saw it as an infringement of their constitutional powers.
@@markwalshopoulos Collective security through war in the post war setting of WWI would only be effective for two or three decades. The states who fought and loss (loss of life and in warfare) would recover their population and possibly declare war or take the risk of creating new international alliances mirrored after the League of Nations. Afterwards, another world war would likely trigger through collective security.
The issue that led a crisis in Hungary to become a World War was not alliances per se. It was the fact that those alliances were secret. Secret alliances have no deterrence power.
"X President was super excited and optimistic to pass this legislation that could change the course of history--- aaand he just lost the Midterms." A crash course on US history, really.
@@bobnix3240 not quite democracy doesn't decide what's good or not tyranny of the majority is still a thing, much better then by a minority of people, and the constuion gives limited protection to the minority of course,.....my point is democracy is worst system... besides all that came before......so uh basically rare in history systems like a night watchman state...(Mind you Hitler was also voted Democratically)
@@bobnix3240 oh of course that's what happens. Never a result of the two party system making legislators pass laws based on spite of the other side. No, that's never happened. Not even once.
@@ShangZilla not every country was in it, and if other countries did something they didn't like, they'd fight the other countries together. An alliance by definition. The 'policing' is fighting a war
Congress was in the right here for once. Wilson massively overstepped his boundaries and was infringing on the Constitution. The democrats got destroyed in the wartime midterms BECAUSE of Wilson lying to get a second term and extending government overreach in that second term.
@@hia5235 in this case they represented the interests of the majority the US were willing to die on the hill of isolationism until December 7th, 1941 when a little thing on a few Pacific islands changed that stance. And I still see some idiots who think we should go back to isolationism.
@@emberfist8347 Isolationism is a whole lot better than being the world police. Now because of that the fsvorite american pass time is drone striking middle eastern people.
This basically describes every time plans get derailed in American history. 'We have this great idea while have the-Ah shit we lost the midterms.' Said most of our presidents.
@@BlueflameKing1 I still remember early this year when my state Georgia was a battle ground for control over the senate, more so then ever after Biden won Georgia in presidential election showing they Democrats have a chance in a commonly Red state. And load and behold the Democrats won both senate seats.
When Senate Republicans said they were willing to ratify the treaty with some modifications the other nations said okay. Wilson said, "It's time for the Senate to take their medicine." Wilson didn't see Congress as a coequal branch. As such he didn't include any member in the negotiations and just expected them to whatever he told them to do.
...Sounds like a Politician, alright. I'd say that it "sounds like a Democrat", because they do this a lot more blatantly than most other political parties, but... Let's be honest, they all try this shit.
@@aceclover758 he was also very racist. I mean racist by the standards of the time. He played a major role in creating the lost cause myth about the Civil War.
@@TheRennDawg His ideals for world peace an such were more like rules and privileges than actual ideals to make the world “better” He was also responsible for re-segregating many branches of the army or gave generals permission to do so
Some things never change. Death, taxes and the midterms making American administration powerless in the face of hostile congress. Biden has it coming now in 2022.
@@Dendarang i remember hearing somwhere that almost every president loses seats in congress to the opposite party every midterm election, with very few exceptions, such as in 2002.
@@Dendarang And given how bitterly polarized and hostile the voters have become, I would not be surprised if we got a new POTUS every 4 years now for a while.
Wilson: "We ought to have self determination of peoples. People shouldn't be ruled by foreign imperial powers." British & French Empires: "Umm yeah, about that..." Wilson: "And Congress ought to delegate the power to declare war to a body of foreign countries." Congress: "Umm yeah, about that..." Wilson's 14 points were pretty much laughable given the political realities of the time.
He himself broke the self-determination clause with places like Haiti, Vera Cruz, the Dominican Republic, and Russia, all of whom he led an invasion of.
Wilson was a man of many qualities, Lost Causer, firm Unionist, interventionist, pacifist, and most of all, Idealic. He had no concept of how the world actually worked. His ideas really rubbed the leaders of Europe the wrong way and completely screwed over diplomatic relations with Japan. On top of fostering the second wqve of the KKK, segregated the government and expanded the executive branch's power to tyrannical proportions. All in all, someone the US would've been better without as president. Teddy Roosevelt 1912 baby!!!
@@actin9294 That and it has a bunch of "councils" that become a laughing stock thanks to their member states... Such as Saudi Arabia being on the UN's Women's council... The UN's survival might be tied into its ineffectualness. That way nations can LOOK like they're trying to cooperate and play nice.
Wilson suffered a stroke in 1919 in Colorado while selling the League that incapacitated him. Afterward, he (or his aides, or his wife) seemed to have no interest in any compromises that may have led to the the US joining.
The Electoral College should be formed the same way congress is elected. A State wide election for two members and one additional member elected in each congressional district. After the Electoral College votes they will then announce who the next president is. This would be a much more secure system that would ensure that the will of the people is respected as there would be over 450 separate elections across the nation to select the 538 people that would be electing the president. Also it would keep the focus of the campaigns on the State and local level where your vote counts the most.
Suggestion: 9 hours after Pearl harbor The Philippines was attacked, basically Japan is invading an American territory with American soldiers engaging the Japanese invasion but when Roosevelt made the Day of Infamy speech, The Philippines was supposed to be on that speech but he removed it. Why?
@@mariodangelo9768 it was conflicting, but it was true that roosevelt was trying to find an excuse to get in the war against the axis by any means. That and also he did try to stack the supreme court in his favor to pretty much single handedly control the US with the other branches being yes men.
@@tranidite It is not conflicting lol. No one knew when they were going to attack. Even after the oil embargo, they were warning and predicting but no one knew.
@@comradeofthebalance3147 They may not have known where Japan was going to attack, but they had a pretty good idea an attack was happening as they knew the Kido Butai was underway and the entire Japanese Navy had been activated. It's true that only a few people, mostly in Naval Intelligence, expected them to strike as far east as Hawaii, many senior admirals argued vehemently that Japan didn't have the capability to operate that far from their supply lines, but everyone knew an attack was coming.
USN and Britain got the largest navy allowance because *they had* the largest navy. But. Treaty did put pretty severe limit on navy: "Part 3, Section II specified the ships to be scrapped to comply with the treaty and when the remaining ships could be replaced. In all, the United States had to scrap 30 existing or planned capital ships, Britain 23 and Japan 17."
@@Poctyk correct, despite the shenanigans by the great powers, specially the future axis alliance. The Washington and London naval treaties were a mayor success in stopping the massive naval arms race developing between the victorious Entente powers. The major factor as to why there was no massive battle of jutland repeat in ww2
"Wow great idea America, with you on the league as most powerfu-" "Naahh we ain't joining" "What? But it could be an oppertunity to ensure the pea-" "Congress doesn't like it." "......"
@@evryatis2853 Welcome to literally any form of politics. "The ruling body is a rough, faulty representation of our people!" ...Yeah. Yeah, that's literally everyone that has a political system.
Wilson's 14 points being shown to the public around: Hey Americans wanna join the league of nations? Half of the reasons are the same! Americans: lolno
"Hey guys, wouldn't it be awesome if you got dragged into more European conflicts and Congress couldn't say no to it!" is basically how it was understood to the American people.
Video recommendation: “what was Hideki tojo’s reaction when emperor Hirohito was free from all the war charges while he was about to be executed by the alias..” Plz do a video on this
I heard Tojo pressured Hirohito into continuing the war effort when at one point Hirohito was fine with organising an honourable surrender with the Allies. Also I heard Eisenhower and Truman believed that Japan would psychologically fall apart without its emperor (due to Japan's then current history and social culture) so it persuaded the other countries to pardon Hirohito so long as he signed a peace treaty with the Allies giving an unconditional surrender and told the citizens of Japan to stop regarding and treating him as a divine being.
Coolidge has a great autobiography. He was a great president. History classes forget to mention him and his presidency's instrumental success when speaking about the "Roaring 20s." If he ran for reelection, there would have been no Great Depression...
Funfact, «Moneymaker» is an anglization of the German name “Nurmacher” which was a surname taken by families who were in the business of minting coins!
One major lesson I learned from history class: America then: "We will not join the league, but we do agree with its principles." America now: "We will not ratify this international agreement, but we do agree with its principles."
Or just that according to the US Constitution declaring war requires a simple majority of Congress, but to ratify peace treaties (or any treaty) you need a 2/3 majority (which is why they ratify so few of them). American logic, everyone.
Although if you think of all the treaties they violated (with the Native Americans, for example), maybe it's better this way. At least now they tell you to your face that they won't keep their word, instead of stabbing you in the back.
@@blede8649 Most the so-called 'treaties' that were violated were mere personal agreements with the president's representatives, not actual treaties ratified by 2/3rds of the senate. Basically, the Indians viewed them as treaties, but the US did not. There are a few exceptions, but this is the overwhelming majority of cases.
America: (Barges into WW1 last minute and helps win) (Creates the League of Nations) (Creates ideas on how to ensure global conflicts won’t happen again) (Refuse to join the league) (Leaves)
Congress refused to pass as they, rightfully, saw that only they can decide when the country goes to war with another. The President does not have the authority to declare war. This treaty would circumvent this power of congress.
Great video. One point not mentioned is that Wilson touring the Country likely failed because he had a stroke while on this tour in Pueblo Colorado. This stroke happened about 2 years before the end of his presidency, and left him virtually unable to speak or do much of anything else. His wife is the one who relayed to his cabinet and others what he was saying. But this made it impossible for him to tour the country and drum up support for the LoN.
This seems a bit like Churchill advocating for what would become the ECSC (the forerunner to the EU) then the UK refused to join until the 1970's (and then left about 40 years later).
World Power wants a club to "reign in" other world powers, flips table when everyone gets to vote on trade and taxes. Same old story since 1776 on this side of the water. :D
00:32 "This included principles like the right to self determination" The irony of showing Austria-Hungary during this line. Many border lines completely ignored regional ethnic makeup.
The irony of the USA claiming to care about self-determination when Austria Hungary had way more local representation, as well as recognition of unique culture and language for all its peoples then the US does even today for Native Americans
Quite an informative video! Also, I laughed when you mentioned Harding's "passion"! Reminds me of the one time when you referred to Stalin's death as "following in Lenin's footsteps"!
@@Trans_SovietBee If anything that's the poster child of "UN can go fuck itself" when morality is concerned. Who cares if its against international law when its to stop an ethnic cleansing?
Maybe I missed it, but I feel like an important part of Wilson not being able to get us into the LoN is that he had a debilitating stroke toward the end of his Presidency.
In all truth, I doubt the US, even in the League of Nations, would have made any difference to the events that transpired. They, too, were in a depression, and would have to suffer a cross through the Atlantic to get anything done.
The US in the league of nations could have stopped japan from doing shit. The Japanese were scared shitless of America in OTL if there was a possibility of war with America over manchuria they may have backed down.
@@mappingshaman5280 Once again, I doubt it. Tell me; what has you or your country done to condemn/combat the genocide of the Uyghurs in Western China? Or is nothing being done and we're just continuing along without paying mind since it doesn't affect our daily lives? The US WAS doing things from without the LoN, eventually trickling trade and then refusing all market trading with the Japanese Yen. And that started a Pacific War (not saying we shouldn't have, but saying the US would have been able to persuade it's population that a war with Japan regarding some unpronounceable place in Asia prior to Pearl Harbor is not being honest)
It would be awesome if you could keep it up. I especially like you balance between humor -which is very subtle and witty- and historical accuracy and objectivism. Amazing work. Sometimes I wonder what books would you recommend for the different periods of history you talk about
I love how no one has time for Wilson, they just look annoyed. Also, fun fact, the first movie shown in the White House - at Wilson's directive - was made by a certain white-sheet-wearing, cross-burning, all-around-nasty dudes known as the K K K. Just sayin', Wilson had some issues.
Wilson’s Treasury secretary, William G. McAdoo, said: “I am not going to argue the justification of the separate toilets orders, [in federal government offices] beyond saying that it is difficult to disregard certain feelings and sentiments of white people in a matter of this sort.”
It’s interesting to me how much that organization that dressed in white (not sure what I can type nowadays without a comment being pulled) influenced US politics back in the turn of the 19th Century and at least three decades into the 20th Century. It’s my understanding that politicians back then had no chance of climbing the political ladder if they didn’t at least “give a nod” to them. Even better if they were an official member.
If I heard right from this one AlternateHistoryHub video, Wilson was a boy when his family moved down South, right before the Civil War started, and he grew up during Reconstruction. Might have had an effect on the guy, and his (warped and unrealistic) worldview.
@@raptorfromthe6ix833 So what? What does time have to do with anything? If you think racial supremacy or lynchings are okay, you're a fuckhead. I don't see how what century it is is even remotely relevant. People knew slavery was bad. They still did it. It's nothing to do with time, or some mass realisation. The reason it took time was because it was maintained by a powerful elite minority, which would not give up without burning everything down with them. The same way our current economic system, capitalism, is maintained by a very small and powerful elite. Most people would rather see it gone if they knew what its full implications were, but most people will never get a say in how things are run
*in Tom-Hanks-voice* Wiiiilllllsssooooooonn!!! Also, Wilson pissed off the opposition by not inviting them to Versailles, so Republicans were stuffed by Wilson before they shafted him.
Video missed a key reason it failed, though it touched on it. Wilson's was arrogant and refused to allow Senators from both parties be involved in negotiating the treaty. Even Democratic Senators of that era were pissed that their coequal power on international relations was being stomped on by Wilson. Historically Congress was very possessive of its powers no matter which president was attempting to steal/curb them. The lesson was to include them in serious international negotiations so they were invested in the outcome. Today this is no longer true, as politicians are more than happy to cede powers of the legislatures as an ends justify the means approach to politics. This started under FDR and has still not gone away.
2:02 "Harding left his position as US President to focus on his new passion of being dead."
I love how you always come up with creative new ways to say that someone dies.
This is gold
He is a *poet*
I heard Kobe Bryant and Chadwick Boseman are enjoying thier time away from the spotlight and focusing on their hobbies of being dead and haunting the descendants of slave owners.
But always keeps the thud sound for consistency.
Not a nice thing to say
"he left his seat as president for his passion of being dead" man this guy gets me every time 🤣🤣🤣
That thump always makes me crack a smile
I like how he switches it up.
It's amazing how many leaders leave there positions to pursue their passion of being dead. 🤣🤣🤣
Considering it was Harding I half was expecting the hobbie to be spending time with someone else's wife
That was hands the best thing I heard all week
Maybe the real League of Nations were the countries we failed to stop along the way.
🤣😂
omg ❤️
Vive l'Empereur Napoléon Bonaparte !
Un Français doit vivre pour elle !
Pour elle un Français doit mourir !
Or, if you’re Britain, it’s all the countries you invaded along the way. 😆
You SOB you got me spitting out water 😂😂
The Entente after creating the League of Nations:
Why is nobody having a good time? I specifically requested it.
There was the roaring twenties so people enjoyed it for a while. Thanks to the teetotalers who pushed for the 18th amendment most Americans did so illegally.
@@timmmahhhh Wait... Women given the right to vote was illegal? I think you meant the EIGHTEENTH amendment!
@@sgottlieb LOL yes you're right thanks, I've modified.
@@sgottlieb what’s the 18th amendment?
Ngl the league of nations was basically pointlessly symbolic. When Japan was asked to explain its actions the Japanese ambassador stood up and left. Because nothing could force them to answer. Basically just the UN but worse somehow.
I'm glad you mentioned Harding's passion for being dead. It's notable that long after being president, even though he's 155 years old, he still finds time to be dead every day.
He lives his hobby like it's his last day on earth
"He was confident a democratic control congress would pass this...and they just lost the midterms." Basically the last century of American Politics.
@Kelvin Government is good, the problem is deregulation and regulating wrong industries. There are too many special interest groups, and not enough groups that represent the people. Also many of the federal and state institutions are toothless compared to wealthy individuals and companies/corporation. Governments provide a needed public good by providing public services that aren't profitable as well as ensuring the minority groups; such as elderly, homeless, disenfranchised, poor, and etc are taken care of and have their voice.
@@MasterGhostf
I think he was more talking about-
“Hey! You don’t like this candidate that just won and you’re looking to limit the policies you feared he would pass if he won?! Win the midterms! Stop em in their tracks!”
Honestly I see midterms as like some sort of revenge type deal- you had a bitter loss and want to limit the other party as much as possible in getting anything done. So like… you didn’t get the presidency but maybe you got the senate or house or maybe both!
The Republican party needs to be banned and Democrats become the new right wing party. We don't neeed a white supremacist, pro-Nazi party in America.
@@noanyabizniz4333 calm down bub, you're being a little too extra
@@ATemplarIGuess he's trolling
“Harding focused on his new passion of being dead”
Jesus Christ the deadpan delivery of dry humor gets me every time😂
I saw the punchline from a mile away and I still laughed. 😂
Brits seem to be particularly good at that.
**League of Nations is formed by US President Woodrow Wilson** "Let's join this!"
Congress: "But, fun fact... no."
Its so funny that an American proposed it
America didn't propose it, Wilson did. Treaties are the domain of the congress, not the executive.
@@Rocketsong just proves that Congress has been useless for a long time. No wonder its approval rating is in single figures.
Actually, congress didn't like the fact that the league required members to declare war on an aggressive nation that attacked another member. They rightfully saw it as an infringement of their constitutional powers.
@@analcommando1124
Its called seperation of powers and is a pillar for any functional democracy
US: *doesn't join the LoN*
The LoN: Wait a minute, this whole operation was your idea!
Should change Wilson to U.S. Congress since it was mostly from the representatives and not Wilson that didn't want us to join.
Not Wilson, It's the U.S Congress. Wilson was the one who set it up.
Bruh if it's the US congress, the meme doesn't work anymore
Yet another person ignorant of what "separation of powers" means.
Wilson!!!!!!
You know, the Republicans really had a point. Signing yourself up to automatically get drawn into war is exactly what enabled WWI in the first place.
Collective security was actually a good proposal as nobody would be able to fight the entire league at once
@@markwalshopoulos Yet the League never collectively fought any aggressive member.
@@markwalshopoulos Collective security through war in the post war setting of WWI would only be effective for two or three decades. The states who fought and loss (loss of life and in warfare) would recover their population and possibly declare war or take the risk of creating new international alliances mirrored after the League of Nations. Afterwards, another world war would likely trigger through collective security.
Yeah, only we didn’t join and still got drug into another war. NATO on the other hand, has been very effective at preventing a new global war.
The issue that led a crisis in Hungary to become a World War was not alliances per se. It was the fact that those alliances were secret. Secret alliances have no deterrence power.
"In August, 1923, Harding left his position as U.S President to focus on his new passion, of being dead."
I love your tongue-in-cheek comedy, HM.
James Bisonette was not pleased with him
"X President was super excited and optimistic to pass this legislation that could change the course of history--- aaand he just lost the Midterms."
A crash course on US history, really.
oh boy cant wait to see biden say "come on, man!" when his turn comes.
For better or worse.
If your ideas were that good, you would've won. Functioning as intended.
@@bobnix3240 not quite democracy doesn't decide what's good or not tyranny of the majority is still a thing, much better then by a minority of people, and the constuion gives limited protection to the minority of course,.....my point is democracy is worst system... besides all that came before......so uh basically rare in history systems like a night watchman state...(Mind you Hitler was also voted Democratically)
@@bobnix3240 oh of course that's what happens. Never a result of the two party system making legislators pass laws based on spite of the other side. No, that's never happened.
Not even once.
"The league's purpose was to suppress aggressive nations with military force"
*hmmmm*
"Where is the military force?"
Oops
Literally just another alliance lol, I see why it failed
@@JonahNelson7 It wasn't alliance, it was basically world police without the police.
I say the whole world must learn of our peaceful ways... by force!
@@ShangZilla not every country was in it, and if other countries did something they didn't like, they'd fight the other countries together. An alliance by definition. The 'policing' is fighting a war
"New passion of being dead"
I wish I could have this passion
Bruh!
You okay bro?
Do it! Do it asshole!
Well you can't have it. You've been a coward then and you still are a coward now.
This option is always available to you, in literally every imaginable way.
“So, like most peculiarities in American history, this one could be traced back to Congress”
As true today as it ever was)
Just like the song same as it ever was
Congress was in the right here for once. Wilson massively overstepped his boundaries and was infringing on the Constitution. The democrats got destroyed in the wartime midterms BECAUSE of Wilson lying to get a second term and extending government overreach in that second term.
right because congress represents the interests of people that are quite different all over this very large nation
@@hia5235 in this case they represented the interests of the majority the US were willing to die on the hill of isolationism until December 7th, 1941 when a little thing on a few Pacific islands changed that stance. And I still see some idiots who think we should go back to isolationism.
@@emberfist8347 Isolationism is a whole lot better than being the world police. Now because of that the fsvorite american pass time is drone striking middle eastern people.
"And they just lost the mid-terms"
As always, they always lose the midterms. . .
This basically describes every time plans get derailed in American history. 'We have this great idea while have the-Ah shit we lost the midterms.' Said most of our presidents.
@@BlueflameKing1 I still remember early this year when my state Georgia was a battle ground for control over the senate, more so then ever after Biden won Georgia in presidential election showing they Democrats have a chance in a commonly Red state. And load and behold the Democrats won both senate seats.
When Senate Republicans said they were willing to ratify the treaty with some modifications the other nations said okay. Wilson said, "It's time for the Senate to take their medicine." Wilson didn't see Congress as a coequal branch. As such he didn't include any member in the negotiations and just expected them to whatever he told them to do.
...Sounds like a Politician, alright.
I'd say that it "sounds like a Democrat", because they do this a lot more blatantly than most other political parties, but... Let's be honest, they all try this shit.
Wilson was a joke and hypocrite too.
@@aceclover758 he was also very racist. I mean racist by the standards of the time. He played a major role in creating the lost cause myth about the Civil War.
@@TheRennDawg His ideals for world peace an such were more like rules and privileges than actual ideals to make the world “better”
He was also responsible for re-segregating many branches of the army or gave generals permission to do so
Exactly, I can't figure out why all these other ignorant commenters can't see that the Republican-controlled Congress made the right decision here.
"And they just lost the midterms" made me crack up
Some things never change. Death, taxes and the midterms making American administration powerless in the face of hostile congress. Biden has it coming now in 2022.
@@Dendarang i remember hearing somwhere that almost every president loses seats in congress to the opposite party every midterm election, with very few exceptions, such as in 2002.
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@@Dendarang And given how bitterly polarized and hostile the voters have become, I would not be surprised if we got a new POTUS every 4 years now for a while.
"to focus on his new passion of being dead"
not gonna lie, that caught me off guard.
It caught Harding off guard too.
Welcome to another episode of hey! This never crossed my mind but alright.
How would it never cross your mind?
Bavaria First!!!
@@Fyrdman for example, i didn't even know that the us wasn't in the league of nations
I knew The US wasn't in the league, but I didn't have any educated guess before of why it wasn't
@@thysonita2114 really? It was the main reason it failed?
Wilson: "We ought to have self determination of peoples. People shouldn't be ruled by foreign imperial powers."
British & French Empires: "Umm yeah, about that..."
Wilson: "And Congress ought to delegate the power to declare war to a body of foreign countries."
Congress: "Umm yeah, about that..."
Wilson's 14 points were pretty much laughable given the political realities of the time.
Just as laughable as the UN 17 Sustainable Development Goals.....that private businesses are being blackmailed into supporting today.
that's what NATO is tho, it binds the US to join in a defensive war with every member regardless of what the congress thinks.
It's interesting that shuch controversial military obligations became a no brainer after WW2.
He himself broke the self-determination clause with places like Haiti, Vera Cruz, the Dominican Republic, and Russia, all of whom he led an invasion of.
Wilson was a man of many qualities, Lost Causer, firm Unionist, interventionist, pacifist, and most of all, Idealic. He had no concept of how the world actually worked. His ideas really rubbed the leaders of Europe the wrong way and completely screwed over diplomatic relations with Japan. On top of fostering the second wqve of the KKK, segregated the government and expanded the executive branch's power to tyrannical proportions. All in all, someone the US would've been better without as president. Teddy Roosevelt 1912 baby!!!
A question related to this topic: Why is the UN more successful and long-lasting than the League of Nations?
UN is just as useless imo. Big world wars haven't happened since ww2 mostly because the great powers don't want to nuke each other to the ground lol.
@@actin9294 Well they did intervene in Korea. Also in many conflicts in smaller Nations.
Nukes.
@@actin9294 That and it has a bunch of "councils" that become a laughing stock thanks to their member states...
Such as Saudi Arabia being on the UN's Women's council...
The UN's survival might be tied into its ineffectualness. That way nations can LOOK like they're trying to cooperate and play nice.
Because the UN doesn't drag other nations to a war like the league would do.
2:00 One day, I want to be as serious about my passion as Harding was about his
I don't understand 🤨
If you have the same passion, one day you will for sure.
Finally, the first History Matters video I'm on time for.
0:25 “like most peculiarities in American history can be traced back to congress” Never has a truer statement been made
Wilson suffered a stroke in 1919 in Colorado while selling the League that incapacitated him. Afterward, he (or his aides, or his wife) seemed to have no interest in any compromises that may have led to the the US joining.
Sounds like the quintessential example of "President says one thing, but Congress says another"
Which is why in Germany, parliament picks the chancellor. Having a majority in parliament is a requirement to be chancellor.
We need a stronger Electoral college so the President will be a representative of the country instead of the Mob.
Literally "functioning as intended." The President is not a dictator, and this is part of how we ensure that he does not have dictatorial powers.
The Electoral College should be formed the same way congress is elected. A State wide election for two members and one additional member elected in each congressional district. After the Electoral College votes they will then announce who the next president is. This would be a much more secure system that would ensure that the will of the people is respected as there would be over 450 separate elections across the nation to select the 538 people that would be electing the president. Also it would keep the focus of the campaigns on the State and local level where your vote counts the most.
@@opossumlvr1023
Why not just have a direct election at that point then?
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"to focus on his new passion of being dead" 🤣😭
Been a while since we had a good thud.
*Focus of his new passion of being dead*
Found my grave quote
I died at this lmao
@@HT-lr1rs at least you're focusing on your new passion
@@HT-lr1rs you mean you came down with a fatal case of the *deads*
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If you ever feel useless
Just know the League of Nations existed before ww2
They actually did stop some wars
@@eatathepizza4449 which that actually matters?
Normie
if you ever feel useless, UN exist today
@@eatathepizza4449 didn't stop the wars that followed immediately after ww1, when Eastern Europe went to shit
2:07
"To focus on his new pashion of being dead"
WTF 😂😂😂
If only history was taught this way
Suggestion: 9 hours after Pearl harbor The Philippines was attacked, basically Japan is invading an American territory with American soldiers engaging the Japanese invasion but when Roosevelt made the Day of Infamy speech, The Philippines was supposed to be on that speech but he removed it. Why?
FDR was an authoritarian scum who wanted war and knew the Japanese were going to attack.
@@humansvd3269 citation needed on his knowledge of the attack
@@mariodangelo9768 it was conflicting, but it was true that roosevelt was trying to find an excuse to get in the war against the axis by any means. That and also he did try to stack the supreme court in his favor to pretty much single handedly control the US with the other branches being yes men.
@@tranidite It is not conflicting lol. No one knew when they were going to attack. Even after the oil embargo, they were warning and predicting but no one knew.
@@comradeofthebalance3147 They may not have known where Japan was going to attack, but they had a pretty good idea an attack was happening as they knew the Kido Butai was underway and the entire Japanese Navy had been activated. It's true that only a few people, mostly in Naval Intelligence, expected them to strike as far east as Hawaii, many senior admirals argued vehemently that Japan didn't have the capability to operate that far from their supply lines, but everyone knew an attack was coming.
1:59 "Which limited the size of the great powers navies"
US and Britain giving more ships to themselves: *"Yeah, totally*
Pretty much everybody was cheating on the limits and lying about it.
Japan: I'm going to do whats called a pro gamer move
Germany even made a separate deal with the UK to have a bigger navy even tho it was forbidden in Versailles
USN and Britain got the largest navy allowance because *they had* the largest navy.
But. Treaty did put pretty severe limit on navy:
"Part 3, Section II specified the ships to be scrapped to comply with the treaty and when the remaining ships could be replaced. In all, the United States had to scrap 30 existing or planned capital ships, Britain 23 and Japan 17."
@@Poctyk correct, despite the shenanigans by the great powers, specially the future axis alliance.
The Washington and London naval treaties were a mayor success in stopping the massive naval arms race developing between the victorious Entente powers.
The major factor as to why there was no massive battle of jutland repeat in ww2
USA: makes League of Nations.
USA: aight ima head out.
USA then: Tries again with the U.N
USA Now: This feels like a Big Mistake "looks at Chinese Influence taking over the International Organization"
@@madden8021 -10 social credit 😡 🇨🇳 (this is a joke btw)
"Wow great idea America, with you on the league as most powerfu-"
"Naahh we ain't joining"
"What? But it could be an oppertunity to ensure the pea-"
"Congress doesn't like it."
"......"
the congress is a rough representation of the american people as faulty as it can be you know
@@evryatis2853 Welcome to literally any form of politics. "The ruling body is a rough, faulty representation of our people!" ...Yeah. Yeah, that's literally everyone that has a political system.
@@MrJinglejanglejingle didnt mean that in a bad way lol i'm not american either, in fact i'm defending it
Wilson's 14 points being shown to the public around: Hey Americans wanna join the league of nations? Half of the reasons are the same!
Americans: lolno
"Hey guys, wouldn't it be awesome if you got dragged into more European conflicts and Congress couldn't say no to it!" is basically how it was understood to the American people.
I watched this channel since Kelly Moneymaker was way lower on the list. And now look at her! So proud!
😂
Harding, fond of his new found passion, remains dead to this very day.
That's dedication for you . . . .
Years later, Francisco Franco found this passion and joined Harding in pursuing it.
And finally France won the League of Nations with a magnificent goal from Benzema
league of Nations? more like, world Cup, with only recognised countries
An offside goal
I love how he always comes up with new and creative ways of saying he died
This is the earliest I’ve been to one of your videos
Video recommendation: “what was Hideki tojo’s reaction when emperor Hirohito was free from all the war charges while he was about to be executed by the alias..”
Plz do a video on this
I heard Tojo pressured Hirohito into continuing the war effort when at one point Hirohito was fine with organising an honourable surrender with the Allies.
Also I heard Eisenhower and Truman believed that Japan would psychologically fall apart without its emperor (due to Japan's then current history and social culture) so it persuaded the other countries to pardon Hirohito so long as he signed a peace treaty with the Allies giving an unconditional surrender and told the citizens of Japan to stop regarding and treating him as a divine being.
The entire Japanese war cabinet was determined to not let Hirohito get any blame. So that indicates something
That would be like a ten second video. Maybe that should've been in the "why did Japan keep its emperor" video idk
Coolidge has a great autobiography. He was a great president. History classes forget to mention him and his presidency's instrumental success when speaking about the "Roaring 20s." If he ran for reelection, there would have been no Great Depression...
🔵 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
League of Nations = Schools practicing **Zero Tolerance Politics**
Every History Matters video
No one -
Literally no one -
James Bissonnette and Kelly Moneymaker - ah yeah, here we roll again!
Funfact, «Moneymaker» is an anglization of the German name “Nurmacher” which was a surname taken by families who were in the business of minting coins!
The real question no one seems to be asking-why didn’t James Bisennet join the League of Nations?
Run along now simp
Too rich to care
The person spinning three plates dropped a plate on his head.
Petition: pls do how was life in Central Asia during the Soviet Union
God vid by the way
Ahhhh, being dead; that one profession we all end up going into sooner or later...
But not everyone shares Harding’s great passion for this occupation!
One major lesson I learned from history class:
America then: "We will not join the league, but we do agree with its principles."
America now: "We will not ratify this international agreement, but we do agree with its principles."
Don't forget about all the treaties they did sign and then pulled out of. Especially the refugee treaty.
Or just that according to the US Constitution declaring war requires a simple majority of Congress, but to ratify peace treaties (or any treaty) you need a 2/3 majority (which is why they ratify so few of them). American logic, everyone.
Although if you think of all the treaties they violated (with the Native Americans, for example), maybe it's better this way. At least now they tell you to your face that they won't keep their word, instead of stabbing you in the back.
@@blede8649 Most the so-called 'treaties' that were violated were mere personal agreements with the president's representatives, not actual treaties ratified by 2/3rds of the senate. Basically, the Indians viewed them as treaties, but the US did not. There are a few exceptions, but this is the overwhelming majority of cases.
1:43 *Banjo begins playing*
Wilson: I’ve got this great idea.
Congress: Wait, what?
1:12
Off to the right behind Wilson. Is that supposed to be the ghost of George Washington?
Congrats on 1 million subscribers
“To work on his new passion of being dead” 😂😂this channel never fails to make me smile
2:01 got me laughing on the ground XD
*thud
America:
(Barges into WW1 last minute and helps win)
(Creates the League of Nations)
(Creates ideas on how to ensure global conflicts won’t happen again)
(Refuse to join the league)
(Leaves)
Read the the commit right above yours.
Barges in? Yes because we wanted to enter the war the entire time.
League of Nations reacting to America not joining:
*Hey, this league of ours was your idea. Don't go!*
“Hey, you guys want to join our special league?”
Everyone else joins
“Lol suckers!”
Congress refused to pass as they, rightfully, saw that only they can decide when the country goes to war with another. The President does not have the authority to declare war. This treaty would circumvent this power of congress.
Yup, and then a few generations later they willing ceded that power to the president. Times certainly do change.
Congrats on 1.000.000 subscribers!!
"Harding left the position of President to focus on his new passion of being dead."
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Brilliant.
Congratulations on 1M subscribers since your last video. This is your first upload in the new milestone! Glad I’m a supporter and subscriber!
"Harding left he's position to focus on he's new passion... of being dead"
It's just a phase.
Great video. One point not mentioned is that Wilson touring the Country likely failed because he had a stroke while on this tour in Pueblo Colorado. This stroke happened about 2 years before the end of his presidency, and left him virtually unable to speak or do much of anything else. His wife is the one who relayed to his cabinet and others what he was saying. But this made it impossible for him to tour the country and drum up support for the LoN.
This seems a bit like Churchill advocating for what would become the ECSC (the forerunner to the EU) then the UK refused to join until the 1970's (and then left about 40 years later).
World Power wants a club to "reign in" other world powers, flips table when everyone gets to vote on trade and taxes.
Same old story since 1776 on this side of the water. :D
"No no you don't get it. Rules are made to constrain you, and protect me, not the other way around."
- Great Power logic
Congratulations on 1 million subs
00:32 "This included principles like the right to self determination"
The irony of showing Austria-Hungary during this line. Many border lines completely ignored regional ethnic makeup.
The irony of the USA claiming to care about self-determination when Austria Hungary had way more local representation, as well as recognition of unique culture and language for all its peoples then the US does even today for Native Americans
@@gamermapperSo… to be more representative of the Us’s many different ethnic groups, it should install an inbred dictator?
I love the creativity with the descriptions when someone dies.
Coolidge's LATER and MAYBE posters were great
Quite an informative video! Also, I laughed when you mentioned Harding's "passion"! Reminds me of the one time when you referred to Stalin's death as "following in Lenin's footsteps"!
🟧 SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE HISTORY MATTERS
LoN: Stop invading Czechoslovakia, Hitler.
Hitler: No.
LoN: Please?
Hitler: No.
LoN: Fine, have a nice *war...*
"Wilson!!!" -from the movie Cast Away starring Tom Hanks
My greatgrandmother was born during Harding administration, though in Argentina. She is still alive.
Amazing good for her
I always giggle at the United Nations logo "Insert Earth Here".
US in 1919: No foreign entanglements from LoN
US in 2003: So yeah, we just gonna bomb a country without UN approval
US in 1999 as well.
Oh well.
@@Trans_SovietBee If anything that's the poster child of "UN can go fuck itself" when morality is concerned. Who cares if its against international law when its to stop an ethnic cleansing?
Maybe I missed it, but I feel like an important part of Wilson not being able to get us into the LoN is that he had a debilitating stroke toward the end of his Presidency.
In all truth, I doubt the US, even in the League of Nations, would have made any difference to the events that transpired. They, too, were in a depression, and would have to suffer a cross through the Atlantic to get anything done.
The US in the league of nations could have stopped japan from doing shit. The Japanese were scared shitless of America in OTL if there was a possibility of war with America over manchuria they may have backed down.
@@mappingshaman5280 Once again, I doubt it. Tell me; what has you or your country done to condemn/combat the genocide of the Uyghurs in Western China?
Or is nothing being done and we're just continuing along without paying mind since it doesn't affect our daily lives?
The US WAS doing things from without the LoN, eventually trickling trade and then refusing all market trading with the Japanese Yen. And that started a Pacific War (not saying we shouldn't have, but saying the US would have been able to persuade it's population that a war with Japan regarding some unpronounceable place in Asia prior to Pearl Harbor is not being honest)
It would be awesome if you could keep it up. I especially like you balance between humor -which is very subtle and witty- and historical accuracy and objectivism. Amazing work. Sometimes I wonder what books would you recommend for the different periods of history you talk about
I love how no one has time for Wilson, they just look annoyed. Also, fun fact, the first movie shown in the White House - at Wilson's directive - was made by a certain white-sheet-wearing, cross-burning, all-around-nasty dudes known as the K K K. Just sayin', Wilson had some issues.
Wilson’s Treasury secretary, William G. McAdoo, said: “I am not going to argue the justification of the separate toilets orders, [in federal government offices] beyond saying that it is difficult to disregard certain feelings and sentiments of white people in a matter of this sort.”
It’s interesting to me how much that organization that dressed in white (not sure what I can type nowadays without a comment being pulled) influenced US politics back in the turn of the 19th Century and at least three decades into the 20th Century.
It’s my understanding that politicians back then had no chance of climbing the political ladder if they didn’t at least “give a nod” to them. Even better if they were an official member.
i mean he was alive 5 decades before civil rights movement what do you expect
If I heard right from this one AlternateHistoryHub video, Wilson was a boy when his family moved down South, right before the Civil War started, and he grew up during Reconstruction. Might have had an effect on the guy, and his (warped and unrealistic) worldview.
@@raptorfromthe6ix833 So what? What does time have to do with anything? If you think racial supremacy or lynchings are okay, you're a fuckhead. I don't see how what century it is is even remotely relevant.
People knew slavery was bad. They still did it. It's nothing to do with time, or some mass realisation. The reason it took time was because it was maintained by a powerful elite minority, which would not give up without burning everything down with them. The same way our current economic system, capitalism, is maintained by a very small and powerful elite. Most people would rather see it gone if they knew what its full implications were, but most people will never get a say in how things are run
Love the Japanese carrier and Yamamoto holding the "I have an idea" sign
„Wilson thought, he was some kind of a jesus figur, right ?”
„Oversimplefied reference”
Did he though? Or did he just think he had some good ideas for preventing another world war? Would WW2 have happened if the USA had joined?
Long awaited 1 million subs, good job bro you deserved it.
*in Tom-Hanks-voice* Wiiiilllllsssooooooonn!!!
Also, Wilson pissed off the opposition by not inviting them to Versailles, so Republicans were stuffed by Wilson before they shafted him.
I’ve watched so many of you videos, but I still have a little giggle every time I see “Insert Earth Here”.
Noce
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James Bissonnette, really getting the mileage out of that Patreon donation.
This is a very good question. Why suggest something if you don’t even join the blasted thing?
EDIT: Now I know
Now you know.
Now you know
...And knowing is half the battle...!!!
I love the ghost hanging above the screen at 1:13
Man 2:20 really does make it show how powerless the League was hahaha
You always answer questions I had no idea I had
Fun fact the United Nations also does not work
I knew dying was fatal, but it can be a passion too?!
No way!
Why the USA did not join the LoN:
USA: Because we're quirky and unique...
I just scrolled through your videos and this is the last one I hadn't seen. A sad day indeed.
Idea for a video : when did political parties become a thing?
This Guy Always Create New Entertaining Way To Say That Someone Passed Away
Video missed a key reason it failed, though it touched on it. Wilson's was arrogant and refused to allow Senators from both parties be involved in negotiating the treaty. Even Democratic Senators of that era were pissed that their coequal power on international relations was being stomped on by Wilson.
Historically Congress was very possessive of its powers no matter which president was attempting to steal/curb them. The lesson was to include them in serious international negotiations so they were invested in the outcome.
Today this is no longer true, as politicians are more than happy to cede powers of the legislatures as an ends justify the means approach to politics. This started under FDR and has still not gone away.
Man, this guy sure packs great content in to only three minutes.
What was Europe's reaction to Napoleon proclaiming himself emperor ?
You bastard: I'm 5 days into a stomach virus and the Harding being dead bit is making my stomach cramp with giggles.