@@ashimmukherjee3927 what has that got to do with it ??? The point is the central government did genocide of Sikhs and then protected the people responsible !!!. It is idiots like you who think there is democracy in India !!! India has always been " gunda raaj " !!!. Hindus live in denial over 1984 and have buried their heads in the sand !!!. Men were brought in from outside of dehli who were all controlled by Congress !!!! .
Thanks for covering this. Very shameful part of our history. I was 6 years old and still remember some of the terror of those days. These are few of the things I remember: 1. Rumors from neighbors in the afternoon that Indira Gandhi was shot, but only 3 bullets and that too in the leg. Ladies in the neighborhood in Delhi crying but no mention of Sikhs 2. My father returning back much later than his usual time with a newspaper in hand saying Indira Gandhi is dead (he saw it on a “running news board atop some building) 3. With DTC buses stopped on route along Ring Road due to massive traffic jams, he had to walk many kilometers and stopped in front of AIMS as were thousands of other people. He said at that time he actually saw Rajiv Gandhi outside of AIMS, along with Jagdish Tytler saying to the gathered crowd “Maaro…Sardaaron Ko Maaron” 4. There were taxi stands that had mostly Sikh drivers near our home in RK Puram and we saw flames and smoke rising in the air from our terrace where the taxi stand was 5. All the men in our neighborhood used to stay up at night armed with rods, sticks, cricket bats, hockey sticks, etc. as there were rumors that’s Sikh mobs were attacking Hindu neighborhoods 6. There was a Sikh family near our home and the community people visiting their home and were told by the adults not to fear and no harm will come to them. 7. Lastly, after those dark days, the most shameful memory is going back to school after a few days/ weeks to see many of our Sikh classmates either still not present (for many days after) and the look of fear and sadness in those who did return Never again must we allow those days to return again in India
This must've been horrible to watch, and to think that the current situation can allow it to happen again is just painful. No community deserves to be treated like this.
How come still no justice for the victims the genocide of 1984, fuels the demand for a separate county, remember a lot of Sikhs moved abroad have become very prosperous , it will bite INDIA IF THERE IS NO JUSTICE sooner or later
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
My wife, my younger son and I escaped murder at the hands of Congress goons in hundreds in late evening on November 1, 1984 at Bahadurgarh in Rohtak district. The story is described in detail in my biography in Punjabi published last year and in my autobiography in English launched on March11 , 2023 in the Press Club Sector 27, Chandigarh by Justice Surjit Singh ( Retd.) from the HP High Court.
Indian will have them. Most Indians don't want secular country, they want Hindu nation. Thus will result in these things in the future. Almost no one got prosecuted, there was only one reason to let that happen. The government wanted that to happen, like they still do.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
@@lionkills1 I don't have divine vision of what people want and what they don't but I can tell you about people I know and interact with most of them are happy in secular democracy. Even those who want Hindu nations may have problems with a few things but are very comfortable with current religious diversity. Don't trust social media for anything...
@@saurabhpahade … no , we don’t trust social media, but we saw 2020 Delhi riots ! The problem is, if government wills it, the perpetrators do it and escape! Now, people might like to live in modern mixed india, but if government wishes to use thugs then this will happen again unfortunately.
First time I liked Print.I was 15 year old and was one of the individuals protecting our Sikh neighbours.The Congress led pogrom in Delhi was unbelievable as to how low the political system stooped.There should be justice for the victims and proper jail terms for Jagdish Tytler,Sajjan Kumar and the adelhi youth Congress leader.
It was pogrom led by SECULAR Congress EXACTLY the same way they did direct & indirect Hindu pogroms including during mutilation of Indian lands for Islamic Pakistan or killing of Hindus Brahmans after MK Gandhi's killing!!
Exactly.. and Congress blaming Modi for Gujarat genocide is just blatant Hypocrisy... There is no difference between Congress administration in Delhi and BJP administration of Gujarat these instances.. shame on these persons, who let the people get slaughtered while they sit as adminstrators of the State
@@kalebj7001Gujarat Police literally shot dead Hindu Rioters. Leaders faced judicial trial. Congress was giving MP tickets to Sajjan Kumar & Tytler even in 2004.
Our police system is under the thumbs of political powers.. they won't budge unless they are free... Be it Kolkata, Delhi or Gujarat.. we all have seen how irresponsible the law & order has been under the will of the respective ruling political dispensation
Bloody hell….Never knew it in this detail!! I always thought Congress was useless in stopping this, I never knew they enabled it!! And never knew the actual motivations behind this ‘massacre’!!And they have the audacity to talk about 2002 Gujarat riots!! The hypocrisy of congress and so called secular parties is unbelievable!! Thanks a lot SG for sharing this history with us!! And I am so surprised how did congress end up winning the LS after that, or ever in Punjab!!! When 2002 riots happened in Gujarat, BJP lost power in the centre, how did congress manage to sweep ?! I think BJP is just taking few pages from Congress’ books!
@@jyothikumar2926 Gujarat riots were the consequence of the torching of 59 innocent lives of Hindus by the Muslims at the Godhra Railway station in Gujarat. The Muslims are faking to be the victims. Let us not forget that trainloads of bodies of the Hindus and Sikhs came to EAST PUNJAB from West Punjab long before the the 15th August in 1947 because of the call of “ Direct Action “ given by Jinnah.
That's why we must hold the mirror to ourselves... it is very important not to forget what happened in the past. Only then can we ensure that we never repeat our mistakes. Thank you for writing in and for your support...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Yet no one mentions this and only mentions Gujrat riots !! Wonder how Punjab allowed congress to rule Punjab and let Gandhi’s enter Punjab . And to top it ,Congress made Manmohan singh apologise for this !!
Punjab always had 2 party system for decades. If they were fed up of akali dal they had no other choice than to vote for Congress. Secondly don't forget Punjab has 38.5% Hindus and Sikhs are divided amongst each other
Sorry for what you had to go through my friend, may the perpetrators be brought to justice , as an Indian there are no words for the expressing my anguish I fell listening to this shameful act , I can't imagine what you would have gone through , I hope you are doing well my friend take care.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
👌superb job by Shekarji. It's lovely listening to Someone who has the first hand information since then 1980's. In 1884 when IndiraMa dies... I was 16yrs And then history continues... until now
The way sir does this kind of sad story, he really connects with audience as he himself felt such pain. Shame on who said '' jab koi bada pedh girta hai toh dharti hilti hai '' 😒
@@Punjab_Punjabi_Punjabiat They would have done the same to hindus too if they were asked or rather paid to do so by their masters.....interesting that nobody remembers the big tree comment...
@@navaneethp2219 I agree. But why the media, even the PMO's web portal doesn't hesitate to label whole sikh community as terrorists? There are extremists in each and every religion.
It wasnt just in Delhi, on the day I was born, my mum and dad provided refuge for a number of days to 2 young sikh lads who were escaping the "mob" in Bihar at the time. They tell me shocking reaction of enraged crowds - although not at the scale of what you witnessed Shekhar in Delhi. A tragic event in our country, and hope those times never ever have to come back, although when Godhra happened, I felt my god we are back to those days. That is why flaming fumes of religious, ethnic or any such flames in India is highly highly dangerous - This is not about BJP, Congress or any other party, petty politics etc, its about people and social fabric of India and the delicate balance that has been required to keep this massive land mass of people and cultures and religions together for 80 odd years, even with all the third world incapability and mistakes that come with it. Long may it peacefully continue and I hope we never ever have to see mob violence in India again.
Thank you for writing in, Rakesh ji Yes, those were terrifyingly dark days. Keep watching and thank you for your faith and support in us...best wishes, Shekhar
@@mohibquadri4053hinduism, it was chaddichap hindus who inflicted genocide on sikhs back then. They deliberately targeted sikh women, elders and children
Loved the words... "It's really due to our culture of evasion, when it comes to our own collective crimes that as a nation and a society, we are not able to apply closure to our most tragic turning points.... "
Print’s content quality is just too good now a days! The Karnataka conundrum and now this. Shekhar Gupta is treading the fine line of centrist remarkably well
Sikhs are one of the best communities to emulate. I cried hearing this episode. Shekarji you must have named the home minister and the names of politicians who let this happened. I will blame the home secretary and cabinet secretary for not calling out army as their alligiance is to constitution and not to their political masters. Extraordinary decisions must have been taken at Extraordinary situations.
@RKA Law and order problem is under the home ministry in its absence under Home Secretary. With Indira Gandhi’s assassination, her govt no more existed. The President or the Cabinet secretary or Home Secretary in mutual consultation should have called in the army to control the situation immediately. Unfortunately Jail Singh despite being a Sikh failed to take action or failed to direct the secretaries. The other aspect is, there is no leadership in police forces. How come army is able to deploy their Sikh troops in such environments, while police is unable to do ? I am not negating that the congress leadership remained mute spectators or some of them connived with the arsonists. Very unfortunate.
This is the biggest reason of Sikhs wounds and why they lost faith in Indian government 😢 Hurt continues to this day. Thank you for covering this clearly and truthfully.
What about those sikhs who were massacred by pakistani muslims in 1947 and driven out of punjab ? your coward heart cannot say even once Hurt continues to this day.
I do agree with you Shekhar ji on your eye witness account. I was around 13 yr old and saw the killing with own eyes for almost 2 days untill ITBP arrived at Ahata Kidara Sadar bazar area. I still see this tragedy occasionally in my dreams, because my primary school was targeted and some of my teachers were victims…. Their houses were burnt and some of the people we used to live and see everyday were thrashed. This has been a crime against humanity and the people responsible for this are not punished…. Government of the day and local congress leaders were party to that…. God will punish them for ever and so the Congress party to organize this massacre.
I don't count on fictional entities like god to punish the criminals. Instead we should demand independent institutions such as police and riot control so that politicians don't use them as puppets to achieve their objectives. This way it'll be less likely for such an incident to happen again. I definitely agree that this was a crime against humanity, just like WWII holocaust & 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.
@@srinisbir8781 Isn't it obvious ? Don't like BJP so much that you start taking such small typing errors seriously. We blame Modi for a lot of things But DEFINITELY not this.
Shekhar ji don't forget these Congress goons killed thousands of Maharashtrian Brahmins after assassination of Mahatma Gandhi. Those Congress goons later became MLA, MPs. None of the rioters were convicted for crime. Everyone still remembers Sikh massacre but nobody remembers Brahmin massacre of Maharashtra.
@@satishmadhaoraogundawar4784 It is clearly mentioned that this manhunt was not entirely due to the killing of Gandhi. I am not saying this. This is from your most trusted media source.
I have seen so many of your videos... By far this is most important one. Very informative and shocking. I was only 4 years old back then.. Thanks for doing this!!!
Dear Shekhar, Thank you for this series and your style of reporting! Looking forward to seeing more of your reports in news/series format. Thank you once again. Keep going!
Thank you for following through with your commitment to do the last two episodes in quick succession! It must not have been easy to relive those tough moments, so huge respect for your journalistic integrity in narrating it vividly. Big congratulations to your team for the hard work that went into bringing these episodes to us. 👏🏿
Thank you, Ajay, on behalf of ThePrint team as well. Faith and support from people like you is what keeps us going...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Very easy to miss the brilliance of writing, language, and articulation that defines how Shekhar covers this, with honesty that's lively in question and empathy, but not in excitement and profanity of entertainment. Many blessings to the team. This isn't just the best journalism happening only in India but at par with among the best in world
I hope and pray this never happens in INDIA again. NO COMMUNITY should suffer this again. It still baffles me how we can not bring justice to the victims of the genocide of 1984.
Thanks SG for bringing this episode, I was in Delhi 13 year boy at that time, staying in Hauz Khas very near to AIMMS, I can recollect that day very vividly, off course Hauz Khas was peacful and we had curfew imposed, but atmosphere was tense. Thankfully Army stepped in and violence in Delhi was stopped in a day - Nov1/2nd. My head falls in shame due to Delhi violence Long and short, never ever never ever mix Religion with Politics. It caused partition, it created separatist movement in Punjab which led to Operation Blue star which further led to assinationation of Smt Indira Gandhi and finally which led to Delhi violence. Violence begets violence, peace is progress,. but as Stalin had once said religion is opium of people and people can be injected with this opium, a nation could be created by Jinnah using this opium. India is sitting on Tinder box of caste, religion, gender all the time and it is iincumbent upon the wise people to step in and prevent any flare ups and prevent another 1947. Thanks SG for bringing this episode, we must all learn from history and prevent reocuurence, Please bring a series on Kashmir leading to targetted exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, that was 1990 and you were in prime of journalstic prime. Looking forward for Kashmir series ( Assaniation of Mr. Matoo, forceful killing and exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, Kidnapping of HM's daughter, release of prisoners, hijaking of plane, release of prisoners - lot of news there too, looking forward)
All this is because of politics, colonial constitution & institutions who rarely say the truth!! WHY doesn't China not have the same problems despite Uighur Muslim genocide??!! Even Islamic nations support China as if it was the new Mecca Medina!! What's the point of a democracy if our native civilization, culture, peace, prosperity & social cohesion can't be enforced??!! WHY not have a China style political system or better still Indian native DHARMO-cracy instead of the colonial western style democracy which anyways is abused the same westerners; Indians emulate like indentured slaves??!!
Thank you for writing in, Ranjit. Yes, we must ensure that we remember and retell these stories so such tragedies never get repeated. Thank you for the suggestion on Kashmir, I will certainly look into it...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Yeah, unity in diversity gone to hell. How can it be allowed to happen in a country where Sikhs are an essential part of the workforce that makes up army and farmers? Politicians spread divide among people so that they don't stand-up together and speak against stuff like injustice, broken system, unemployment etc.
The military did open fire when a mob tried attacking Air Marshal Dilbagh Singh's official residence as I recall. More than fifty wannabe murderers were killed in the army firing. And, Lalit Maken - Shankar Dayal Sharma's son in law was widely believed to have organized mobs from the labor unions that he led to participate in the massacres. A PUCL report even named Maken as complicit, something that was "forgiven" in the public memory, I guess, after his assassination and his father in law's elevation to President. I do not believe that Shekhar Gupta is unaware of these facts - try and hide as he might from speaking the truth about the mass-murder of Sikhs by merely claiming that books have been written and documentaries made about 1984. And, it is this dishonesty that prevents many from subscribing to The Print.
The textbook definition of genocide is - "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." I fail to see how the killings then are not described as such. If Bhindranwale's killings are called the rampage of a terrorist; is it not worse when the government, the instruments of government (the police in this instance), the ruling political party and local goons engage in similar killings? I fail to see how one party is better than the other. In fact, blame falls heavier on the heads of those who claim to have legitimate state power. My assessment of the matter is the GOI will conduct an exhaustive and full inquiry only once all the responsible protagonists of the genocide are dead.
Why these incidents of violence are repeatedly mentioned by Sekhar as Hindu vs Sikh clashes? These were either Congressis vs. Sikhs or just Looters/arsonists vs. Sikhs
@@bikramjeetsingh8975 The Hindu identity didn't matter then, they were not against the Sikhs because they were Hindus but Congressis. Tytler was not a Hindu so far I know
@@leenfield Well they did not even spared Congressi sikhs either such as"President Giani Zail singh". I'm not even talking about normal congressi sikhs. So, It was definitely hindus vs sikhs. Jagdish Tytler identify himself as hindu openly and follows it as well. Anyways, what about Sajjan kumar, kamal nath, HK bhagat, arjus das... Are they not Hindus ? Stop denying the facts.
My parents during that time rushed back from Shimla and were eye witness to all that's been said. My father told us he never knew Hindus could be so brutal, he'd witnessed pre and post independence riots was shocked. Shame on the Congress Party who ditched Sikhs and betrayed Indian's.
Was an 8yr old in defence colony - Kota Mubarakpur across the street burnt , a furniture shop was looted , still etched in memory - didn’t know then why all this was happening
Sad and regretful history of our nation. Thank you for reminding us the horrible atrocities but more importantly calling out the complicity of the political party.
A very sad and shameful history of modern India. The nation must not be allowed to forget this, for those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. Complicity of Congress is a criminal commission and that of Delhi police a criminal omission. A silver lining is the story of colony vigilante groups formed to protect Sikh neighbors. This gives a hope that there is a civil society indeed. May Almighty strengthen the civil society and the Indian democracy. Thank you SG for recounting your story and for keeping your notes intact.
I was less than 8 years old at that time and lived in Shidipura near Karol Bagh in Delhi. This area was settled by Punjabis from west Punjab that went to Pakistan. I remember the looting in this area. My father took our neighbour uncle on his scooter to the gurudwara for his protection. Then later on at the railway station I saw one dead body that was covered up. It has to be the worst episode of humanity in our history. I hope we have evolved since then.
The series was carried out with utmost sensitivity 🙏🙏🙏. The necklacing thing: I heard it was also carried out during the Black July riots. Hope you come up with your account on that too
18:32 Sikh police officers were told to stay home to avoid them being attacked by mobs. If they were out on streets it would further escalate the violence.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind. Shekhar Ji thanks for your humanity, sensitivity, wisdom and " history - telling " .
Very informative episode of CTC. Shekhar should also do a episode on hindu massacre in punjab, including incidents like dhaliwan bus mssacre, thapar university killings etc.
Many thanks for giving the first hand account, instead of the usual reporting. At this time, I was working in a company on the outskirts of Bangalore. The information of this horrible riot was fully suppressed in the print media which was the only source of information during those days. I learnt of the riots from a pair of truck driver and cleaner who delivered a truck load of goods. They were evidently Sikhs, but had badly cut hair and beard. Upon repeated questioning, the pair told me of the massacre up north, especially in Delhi, and that they had no choice but to disguise themselves by shedding hairs. Rajiv Gandhi condoned this massacre with his infamous statement: “When a big tree falls, the earth shakes.”
This was a horrible time, and shekhar is right there was hardly any case of neighbors attacking each other. We had a sikh family living in our house. Also, congress workers were looting with impunity. They were going from home to home even trying clothes before looting. This was in south delhi. And yes, mostly people with cricket bats kept a vigil in the small bylanes and kept a watch from terraces. Horrible times.
Sir Thank you- this is by far the best episode of CTC. Witnessed all this as a 10 yr old.. absolutely meaningless mob mentality.. never should happen anywhere..
Thank you Shekhar Sir. After watching the 4 part series it feels like the knowledge you possess and experiences you have need to go in for a movie on yourself. Thank you again. These are realities today's generation needs to listen.. BTW, I was just born in 1984 Sep which helps me understand from where India has come up.
infact in kalkaji we sheltered this families and our elders didnt allow goon to touch anybody, they looted there shops .they came in dtc buses driving themselves.who provied this facility?i was too young to understand this now its clear.
In Bengal, the Left Front didn't allow attack on Sikhs. I heard about that day from my mother who was returning from school when the news of Mrs Gandhi's assassination came. There was palpable tension and anger among the communities. My mother lived near a Gurudwara in Rashbihari Avenue, Kolkata. Hindus were very much protecting minority Sikhs. You will hear about them talking about Left's protectionist attitude during this time.
Majority of the perpetrators who indulged in killing,arson and looting were the locals like Jats,Gurjars, Yadav's, Local SCs who were jealous that why the sardar refugees had become so rich whereas they were still reeling and this was furthered by the religious disharmony spread by the state at the time.
The 1984 anti-sikh massacre remains a blot on the history of India. The details of which makes one shudder thinking how cruel one human being can be to another in a particular situation. What remains more puzzling is a young prime minister Rajiv Gandhi and his government did not do anything to punish the criminals involved in such heinous crimes.
The resemblance with 2002 Godhra riots is astounding. A trigger incident, followed by seemingly communal riots as a proxy for chaos creators, police incompetance, political incompetence, 3 day riots ... Its like a playbook written n being followed. Thank u for sharing ur experience 🙏
I was not yet a teenager at that time and living in Delhi. I was on my school's hockey field with a few classmates, one of whom was listening to the radio (I think he was listening to cricket commentary, if I'm not mistaken). When we returned to our classroom we were told that the rest of the school day had been called off early and that all students were to go back home. My school bus route was along the Ring Road and as we passed through AIIMS crossing (at that time there was no flyover there) we saw a massive crowd outside the hospital. The arson and violence started that same evening. We saw a mob walk past our house. Fortunately, they did not see my grandfather (a Sikh)'s name written at our gate (or maybe they didn't know English). We were lucky. Later that night, from my house I could see something burning in the distance; later I came to know that it was a bus which had been set on fire. I don't know if anyone was killed or injured in that incident. So we removed my grandfather's nameplate from the gate and for the next few days kept our living room and bedroom lights switched off in the evenings to make it appear as if no one lived in the house. I don't remember much else except that there was a 24-hour curfew imposed (not sure from which date). Don't know how my parents managed to buy food during those days. When school reopened, I remember seeing a few Sikh boys (who used to wear patkas) now with short hair. Those were terrible days, as were the years of terrorism in Punjab that followed.
Thank you for writing in, my friend. It is hard to recall those days, but unfortunately it is those terrible memories that will hopefully ensure we never repeat our mistakes as a country. Thank you also for your faith and support...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
shekharji i was witness to that .i was in class 11th coming back from lodhi road in444 bus and our bus was stopped at safderjung airprt flyover and goons --- .i must say inside the bus other passengers di d enough but you know.they were driving dtc bus goons i will never forget as long i am alive i couldn't slleep for three days.
i belong to a neighbourhood near Tilak nagar, my dad told me that one of my Tenants was saved by my Late Grandfather, he made the tenant wore a saree and dropped him near the gurudwara on a scooter. It wasnt religious attacks, it was insane! i hope nothing of this happens ever!
This is what Indian Government must do/ 1. Have a nation day of remembrance and grievance and call it “Sikh Genocide Day”. Modi must apologize to Sikh community to what happened as a prime minister of the country without pointing fingers to any community or political parties 2. Create a national memorial at a prominent site in Delhi where every person who died either Hindu and Muslim his name should be inscribed and on the day of remembrance there should be a shanti Jyoti light up there 3. Acknowledge the perpetrators were never punished and have the families compensate or at the minimum try and prosecute the perpetrators 4. Have a chapter on Sikh genocide in our history books and teach this history properly where the state failed to protect its citizen ! 5. In front of Modi should place a shila or a stone with inscription written in there that “never again” state will we ever attack the holy shrine
Why the fook would modi apologize? Go and ask italian party . In 1984, bjp was not even a chicken forget about them being in power. And sikhs don't have any problem with congress, congress mostly rule the state of punjab.
Gujarat, or Delhi, or Bhopal, or Muzaffarpur, the real culprits are roaming free with no fear of being hauled up. But that is the environment our political class have made for themselves - safe and secure.
Mass massacre happened before, against Brahmins in 1948 after assassination of Gandhiji, in Maharashtra by people of same ideology. No one will talk about it.
The saddest part of the episode is that most of the perpetrators were not punished and in most cases awarded.
most of them are dead now.
@@ashimmukherjee3927maybe
It was Rajiv Gandhi led the massacre but the Indian colonial slave media & their foreign masters didn't label him "Maut Ka Saudagar!!
@@ashimmukherjee3927 what has that got to do with it ??? The point is the central government did genocide of Sikhs and then protected the people responsible !!!. It is idiots like you who think there is democracy in India !!! India has always been " gunda raaj " !!!. Hindus live in denial over 1984 and have buried their heads in the sand !!!. Men were brought in from outside of dehli who were all controlled by Congress !!!! .
Not one Hindu group has ever held a vigil for those killed in 1984 !!!!.
Thanks for covering this. Very shameful part of our history. I was 6 years old and still remember some of the terror of those days. These are few of the things I remember:
1. Rumors from neighbors in the afternoon that Indira Gandhi was shot, but only 3 bullets and that too in the leg. Ladies in the neighborhood in Delhi crying but no mention of Sikhs
2. My father returning back much later than his usual time with a newspaper in hand saying Indira Gandhi is dead (he saw it on a “running news board atop some building)
3. With DTC buses stopped on route along Ring Road due to massive traffic jams, he had to walk many kilometers and stopped in front of AIMS as were thousands of other people. He said at that time he actually saw Rajiv Gandhi outside of AIMS, along with Jagdish Tytler saying to the gathered crowd “Maaro…Sardaaron Ko Maaron”
4. There were taxi stands that had mostly Sikh drivers near our home in RK Puram and we saw flames and smoke rising in the air from our terrace where the taxi stand was
5. All the men in our neighborhood used to stay up at night armed with rods, sticks, cricket bats, hockey sticks, etc. as there were rumors that’s Sikh mobs were attacking Hindu neighborhoods
6. There was a Sikh family near our home and the community people visiting their home and were told by the adults not to fear and no harm will come to them.
7. Lastly, after those dark days, the most shameful memory is going back to school after a few days/ weeks to see many of our Sikh classmates either still not present (for many days after) and the look of fear and sadness in those who did return
Never again must we allow those days to return again in India
True.
NO COMMUNITY should suffer this again
This must've been horrible to watch, and to think that the current situation can allow it to happen again is just painful. No community deserves to be treated like this.
How come still no justice for the victims the genocide of 1984, fuels the demand for a separate county, remember a lot of Sikhs moved abroad have become very prosperous , it will bite INDIA IF THERE IS NO JUSTICE sooner or later
@@malvinderajit1213 Yeah, this is where brain drain happens.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
My wife, my younger son and I escaped murder at the hands of Congress goons in hundreds in late evening on November 1, 1984 at Bahadurgarh in Rohtak district. The story is described in detail in my biography in Punjabi published last year and in my autobiography in English launched on March11 , 2023 in the Press Club Sector 27, Chandigarh by Justice Surjit Singh ( Retd.) from the HP High Court.
So important to have these conversations. Thank you Shekhar Ji for this Series.
I didn't realize how 22 mins went away. Shekhar Gupta is an amazing storyteller..
I cannot even begin to imagine what saner minds in Delhi would have felt...
I hope India in future never ever has to see tragedies like these again...
Indian will have them. Most Indians don't want secular country, they want Hindu nation. Thus will result in these things in the future. Almost no one got prosecuted, there was only one reason to let that happen. The government wanted that to happen, like they still do.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
@@lionkills1 I don't have divine vision of what people want and what they don't but I can tell you about people I know and interact with most of them are happy in secular democracy. Even those who want Hindu nations may have problems with a few things but are very comfortable with current religious diversity. Don't trust social media for anything...
@@saurabhpahade … no , we don’t trust social media, but we saw 2020 Delhi riots !
The problem is, if government wills it, the perpetrators do it and escape!
Now, people might like to live in modern mixed india, but if government wishes to use thugs then this will happen again unfortunately.
@@Critic224 you are crying as if it was some once in century riot! Such riots used to happen every six months and worst. So just chill!
I see parallels between what happened in 1948 in Maharashtra and 1984 in Delhi.
What happened in 1948 will be never be given this much importance...
Cause the victims there do no fit the agenda
Yeah! Both being political massacres orchestrated and executed by congress goons.
Yes, the massacre of Brahmins by Congress must come out
@@study2596 there victims are chitpavan Brahmins
Even jains were involved in killings in maharashtra in 1948
First time I liked Print.I was 15 year old and was one of the individuals protecting our Sikh neighbours.The Congress led pogrom in Delhi was unbelievable as to how low the political system stooped.There should be justice for the victims and proper jail terms for Jagdish Tytler,Sajjan Kumar and the adelhi youth Congress leader.
17:40 “It wasn’t a communal riot in classical sense, it was looter and thugs given furlough by police, state govt and congress party”
It's a Genocide.
Yes and that's called a POGROM
It was pogrom led by SECULAR Congress EXACTLY the same way they did direct & indirect Hindu pogroms including during mutilation of Indian lands for Islamic Pakistan or killing of Hindus Brahmans after MK Gandhi's killing!!
Exactly.. and Congress blaming Modi for Gujarat genocide is just blatant Hypocrisy... There is no difference between Congress administration in Delhi and BJP administration of Gujarat these instances.. shame on these persons, who let the people get slaughtered while they sit as adminstrators of the State
@@kalebj7001Gujarat Police literally shot dead Hindu Rioters. Leaders faced judicial trial. Congress was giving MP tickets to Sajjan Kumar & Tytler even in 2004.
Now a days Congress is acting as an upholder of Human Rights.
Sab Raj da khel aa
true bro
pappu is going to Harvard to preach democracy
It was pogrom led by SECULAR Congress EXACTLY the same way they did direct & indirect Hindu pogroms!!
Delhi police living up to their reputation even today !
Same today happened in Kolkata.... Police did nothing but stood silently looking at Muslim mob attacking Hindus and their property
u are a lier
Our police system is under the thumbs of political powers.. they won't budge unless they are free... Be it Kolkata, Delhi or Gujarat.. we all have seen how irresponsible the law & order has been under the will of the respective ruling political dispensation
Bloody hell….Never knew it in this detail!! I always thought Congress was useless in stopping this, I never knew they enabled it!! And never knew the actual motivations behind this ‘massacre’!!And they have the audacity to talk about 2002 Gujarat riots!! The hypocrisy of congress and so called secular parties is unbelievable!! Thanks a lot SG for sharing this history with us!!
And I am so surprised how did congress end up winning the LS after that, or ever in Punjab!!! When 2002 riots happened in Gujarat, BJP lost power in the centre, how did congress manage to sweep ?! I think BJP is just taking few pages from Congress’ books!
Maybe because RSS carried out the genocide. Google is your friend. This "journalist" is not.
Gujarath riots happened in front of TV cameras.
Rajiv Gandhi blessed the genocide when he said,” when a big tree falls, the earth shakes”.
@@jyothikumar2926 Gujarat riots were the consequence of the torching of 59 innocent lives of Hindus by the Muslims at the Godhra Railway station in Gujarat. The Muslims are faking to be the victims. Let us not forget that trainloads of bodies of the Hindus and Sikhs came to EAST PUNJAB from West Punjab long before the the 15th August in 1947 because of the call of “ Direct Action “ given by Jinnah.
That's why we must hold the mirror to ourselves... it is very important not to forget what happened in the past. Only then can we ensure that we never repeat our mistakes. Thank you for writing in and for your support...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Yet no one mentions this and only mentions Gujrat riots !! Wonder how Punjab allowed congress to rule Punjab and let Gandhi’s enter Punjab . And to top it ,Congress made Manmohan singh apologise for this !!
Punjab always had 2 party system for decades. If they were fed up of akali dal they had no other choice than to vote for Congress. Secondly don't forget Punjab has 38.5% Hindus and Sikhs are divided amongst each other
Imagine how much Sikhs must hate BJP to vote for Khangress😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great deliberation, it has made me to re- live the moment as a sikh (I was 25 yr old at that time)
I wasn’t even born then but feel so ashamed that this happened to citizens of our country. Sorry 😢
Sorry for what you had to go through my friend, may the perpetrators be brought to justice , as an Indian there are no words for the expressing my anguish I fell listening to this shameful act , I can't imagine what you would have gone through , I hope you are doing well my friend take care.
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind.
👌superb job by Shekarji. It's lovely listening to Someone who has the first hand information since then 1980's. In 1884 when IndiraMa dies... I was 16yrs
And then history continues... until now
@PM-zu3qf get them justice sorry does not cut it
The way sir does this kind of sad story, he really connects with audience as he himself felt such pain. Shame on who said '' jab koi bada pedh girta hai toh dharti hilti hai '' 😒
Congress goons does that not others
@@shobhitdagur1086 but they were Hindus
@@Punjab_Punjabi_Punjabiat They would have done the same to hindus too if they were asked or rather paid to do so by their masters.....interesting that nobody remembers the big tree comment...
@@Punjab_Punjabi_Punjabiat the congress identity has its own ideolagy like secular , liberal etc than hindu.
@@navaneethp2219 I agree. But why the media, even the PMO's web portal doesn't hesitate to label whole sikh community as terrorists? There are extremists in each and every religion.
It wasnt just in Delhi, on the day I was born, my mum and dad provided refuge for a number of days to 2 young sikh lads who were escaping the "mob" in Bihar at the time. They tell me shocking reaction of enraged crowds - although not at the scale of what you witnessed Shekhar in Delhi. A tragic event in our country, and hope those times never ever have to come back, although when Godhra happened, I felt my god we are back to those days.
That is why flaming fumes of religious, ethnic or any such flames in India is highly highly dangerous - This is not about BJP, Congress or any other party, petty politics etc, its about people and social fabric of India and the delicate balance that has been required to keep this massive land mass of people and cultures and religions together for 80 odd years, even with all the third world incapability and mistakes that come with it. Long may it peacefully continue and I hope we never ever have to see mob violence in India again.
Can't even begin to comprehend the horrors.... Thank you Shekhar ji for such vivid accounts .... We learn a lot from you and your stories.
Thank you for writing in, Rakesh ji Yes, those were terrifyingly dark days. Keep watching and thank you for your faith and support in us...best wishes, Shekhar
Didn't Rajiv Gandhi say "when a big tree falls the ground will shake"
Also, the role of congress goons like jagdish tytler is worth mentioning.
@@mohibquadri4053hinduism, it was chaddichap hindus who inflicted genocide on sikhs back then. They deliberately targeted sikh women, elders and children
@@mohibquadri4053 it is well known that it was a political massacre and not communal. So don't try to fan it into what is wasn't.
And the best part is they are free
Loved the words... "It's really due to our culture of evasion, when it comes to our own collective crimes that as a nation and a society, we are not able to apply closure to our most tragic turning points.... "
Print’s content quality is just too good now a days! The Karnataka conundrum and now this. Shekhar Gupta is treading the fine line of centrist remarkably well
Sikhs are one of the best communities to emulate. I cried hearing this episode. Shekarji you must have named the home minister and the names of politicians who let this happened.
I will blame the home secretary and cabinet secretary for not calling out army as their alligiance is to constitution and not to their political masters. Extraordinary decisions must have been taken at Extraordinary situations.
NO!! It was led by Congress's PM Rajiv Gandhi!! He even indirectly admitted it!!
@RKA
Law and order problem is under the home ministry in its absence under Home Secretary. With Indira Gandhi’s assassination, her govt no more existed.
The President or the Cabinet secretary or Home Secretary in mutual consultation should have called in the army to control the situation immediately. Unfortunately Jail Singh despite being a Sikh failed to take action or failed to direct the secretaries.
The other aspect is, there is no leadership in police forces. How come army is able to deploy their Sikh troops in such environments, while police is unable to do ?
I am not negating that the congress leadership remained mute spectators or some of them connived with the arsonists. Very unfortunate.
I still cry remembering this genocide.
This is the biggest reason of Sikhs wounds and why they lost faith in Indian government 😢
Hurt continues to this day.
Thank you for covering this clearly and truthfully.
What about those Hindus who were killed by Sikh goons
Agree
What about those sikhs who were massacred by pakistani muslims in 1947 and driven out of punjab ? your coward heart cannot say even once Hurt continues to this day.
@@monicakaur5193 don’t be silly. Stop the whataboutery.
@@FTA275 bolle se sunna to padega. if u can say so can I
I do agree with you Shekhar ji on your eye witness account. I was around 13 yr old and saw the killing with own eyes for almost 2 days untill ITBP arrived at Ahata Kidara Sadar bazar area. I still see this tragedy occasionally in my dreams, because my primary school was targeted and some of my teachers were victims…. Their houses were burnt and some of the people we used to live and see everyday were thrashed. This has been a crime against humanity and the people responsible for this are not punished…. Government of the day and local congress leaders were party to that…. God will punish them for ever and so the Congress party to organize this massacre.
Don't say "Government of the day.". Say Government of that day. Somehow, it feels like you are holding Modi responsible for 1984 riots.
I don't count on fictional entities like god to punish the criminals. Instead we should demand independent institutions such as police and riot control so that politicians don't use them as puppets to achieve their objectives. This way it'll be less likely for such an incident to happen again.
I definitely agree that this was a crime against humanity, just like WWII holocaust & 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.
@@srinisbir8781 Isn't it obvious ? Don't like BJP so much that you start taking such small typing errors seriously. We blame Modi for a lot of things But DEFINITELY not this.
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat what do you blame Modi for? Let it all come out.
@@srinisbir8781 I said "we" as in people and nation not specifically me. I blame parties and groups because it is never a single person's fault.
OMG, Never thought will get hooked to this series, but now can't wait to see the next episode.
Shekhar ji don't forget these Congress goons killed thousands of Maharashtrian Brahmins after assassination of Mahatma Gandhi. Those Congress goons later became MLA, MPs. None of the rioters were convicted for crime.
Everyone still remembers Sikh massacre but nobody remembers Brahmin massacre of Maharashtra.
Please recommend me a book on the subject.
@@sauron2000000 book by Vikram Sampath is the latest one. There are many but mostly in Marathi
@@satishmadhaoraogundawar4784 Thanks. My favorite Historian.
@@satishmadhaoraogundawar4784 It is clearly mentioned that this manhunt was not entirely due to the killing of Gandhi. I am not saying this. This is from your most trusted media source.
This Series prompted me to subscribe to the Print more than any of Shekar's earlier exhortations :)
I have seen so many of your videos... By far this is most important one. Very informative and shocking. I was only 4 years old back then.. Thanks for doing this!!!
Rajiv's response: when a great tree falls, the land shakes! The Gandhis need to do prayaschit for all their crimes.
Thank you SG, this channel is so interesting. Please continue the story telling format.
On a lighter side, this episode can be termed as counter response to BBC 2 part story recently broadcasted and banned.
More then 17000 sikhs died.. rest in peace.. down with hindutva!
Thank you SG Sir for this reminder.
Dear Shekhar,
Thank you for this series and your style of reporting! Looking forward to seeing more of your reports in news/series format. Thank you once again. Keep going!
Thank you, my friend. Please do also tell me if there are events from the past you’d like to know more about…warm best wishes, Shekhar
Thank you for following through with your commitment to do the last two episodes in quick succession! It must not have been easy to relive those tough moments, so huge respect for your journalistic integrity in narrating it vividly. Big congratulations to your team for the hard work that went into bringing these episodes to us. 👏🏿
Thank you, Ajay, on behalf of ThePrint team as well. Faith and support from people like you is what keeps us going...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Very easy to miss the brilliance of writing, language, and articulation that defines how Shekhar covers this, with honesty that's lively in question and empathy, but not in excitement and profanity of entertainment. Many blessings to the team. This isn't just the best journalism happening only in India but at par with among the best in world
Thank you for the kind words, Pulkit. Stay well and warm best wishes, Shekhar
I hope and pray this never happens in INDIA again. NO COMMUNITY should suffer this again. It still baffles me how we can not bring justice to the victims of the genocide of 1984.
and victims of the genocide of 1947 by pakistani muslims on sikhs.
Eye for eye leads to blindness…pain begets pain….never again to allow this to happen
As long as it's not your eye or your family member
Then am sure you song 🎵 will change
That is the point to avoid anyone (family or others) being in this unfortunate circumstances.
It’s happening
You compare 1984 with 2014. Crazy !!
Thanks SG for bringing this episode, I was in Delhi 13 year boy at that time, staying in Hauz Khas very near to AIMMS, I can recollect that day very vividly, off course Hauz Khas was peacful and we had curfew imposed, but atmosphere was tense. Thankfully Army stepped in and violence in Delhi was stopped in a day - Nov1/2nd.
My head falls in shame due to Delhi violence
Long and short, never ever never ever mix Religion with Politics. It caused partition, it created separatist movement in Punjab which led to Operation Blue star which further led to assinationation of Smt Indira Gandhi and finally which led to Delhi violence.
Violence begets violence, peace is progress,. but as Stalin had once said religion is opium of people and people can be injected with this opium, a nation could be created by Jinnah using this opium.
India is sitting on Tinder box of caste, religion, gender all the time and it is iincumbent upon the wise people to step in and prevent any flare ups and prevent another 1947.
Thanks SG for bringing this episode, we must all learn from history and prevent reocuurence,
Please bring a series on Kashmir leading to targetted exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, that was 1990 and you were in prime of journalstic prime. Looking forward for Kashmir series ( Assaniation of Mr. Matoo, forceful killing and exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, Kidnapping of HM's daughter, release of prisoners, hijaking of plane, release of prisoners - lot of news there too, looking forward)
All this is because of politics, colonial constitution & institutions who rarely say the truth!!
WHY doesn't China not have the same problems despite Uighur Muslim genocide??!! Even Islamic nations support China as if it was the new Mecca Medina!!
What's the point of a democracy if our native civilization, culture, peace, prosperity & social cohesion can't be enforced??!!
WHY not have a China style political system or better still Indian native DHARMO-cracy instead of the colonial western style democracy which anyways is abused the same westerners; Indians emulate like indentured slaves??!!
Thank you for writing in, Ranjit. Yes, we must ensure that we remember and retell these stories so such tragedies never get repeated. Thank you for the suggestion on Kashmir, I will certainly look into it...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Just one suggestion: Forget Stalin & know the difference between western/Christian & Islamic concept of religion & Indian concept of Dharma!!
A moving account of India’s shame. Thanks Shekarji for reminding us.
You did not mention the role of the RSS in protecting Sikhs in Delhi, Mr. Gupta. Even Khushwant Singh and Patwant Singh acknowledged the same.
Can't thank Shekhar Ji enough for teaching this part of history to us, those who were born later and never taught about this ever 😶
Thank you for the kind words. Do keep watching and writing in...bets wishes, Shekhar
Least we could do is sincere apology from Indian State to Shikh community😢
I was 11 when this happened. It is an eternal shame on us as a community and our country.
Does u shame on muder of indira gandhi by khaliatanis...and 82 muder of hindus in punjab by sikh fundamentalist...
Yeah, unity in diversity gone to hell. How can it be allowed to happen in a country where Sikhs are an essential part of the workforce that makes up army and farmers? Politicians spread divide among people so that they don't stand-up together and speak against stuff like injustice, broken system, unemployment etc.
@@adityap4312 that's an pure conservative mindset did he mention any community
dumbas it done by congressi terrorist did these sikh abrahamic khalistani terrorist are abrahamic jihadis and hindu is the greateest peaceful religion
You are quite right, Vohra ji. We must remember so that we never repeat. Thank you for your support...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
The military did open fire when a mob tried attacking Air Marshal Dilbagh Singh's official residence as I recall. More than fifty wannabe murderers were killed in the army firing. And, Lalit Maken - Shankar Dayal Sharma's son in law was widely believed to have organized mobs from the labor unions that he led to participate in the massacres. A PUCL report even named Maken as complicit, something that was "forgiven" in the public memory, I guess, after his assassination and his father in law's elevation to President. I do not believe that Shekhar Gupta is unaware of these facts - try and hide as he might from speaking the truth about the mass-murder of Sikhs by merely claiming that books have been written and documentaries made about 1984. And, it is this dishonesty that prevents many from subscribing to The Print.
The textbook definition of genocide is - "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group."
I fail to see how the killings then are not described as such.
If Bhindranwale's killings are called the rampage of a terrorist; is it not worse when the government, the instruments of government (the police in this instance), the ruling political party and local goons engage in similar killings?
I fail to see how one party is better than the other. In fact, blame falls heavier on the heads of those who claim to have legitimate state power.
My assessment of the matter is the GOI will conduct an exhaustive and full inquiry only once all the responsible protagonists of the genocide are dead.
Why these incidents of violence are repeatedly mentioned by Sekhar as Hindu vs Sikh clashes? These were either Congressis vs. Sikhs or just Looters/arsonists vs. Sikhs
So congressi Hindus are not hindus?
@@bikramjeetsingh8975 no no Hindu will say against Ram Mandir but congress did
@@bikramjeetsingh8975 The Hindu identity didn't matter then, they were not against the Sikhs because they were Hindus but Congressis. Tytler was not a Hindu so far I know
@@leenfield Well they did not even spared Congressi sikhs either such as"President Giani Zail singh". I'm not even talking about normal congressi sikhs. So, It was definitely hindus vs sikhs. Jagdish Tytler identify himself as hindu openly and follows it as well. Anyways, what about Sajjan kumar, kamal nath, HK bhagat, arjus das... Are they not Hindus ? Stop denying the facts.
@@bikramjeetsingh8975 Jagadish Tytler is the adopted son of James Douglas Tytler
Excellent and true narrative by Shekhar Gupta ji. 👍👍
Good to know that Delhi Police's culture of incompetence and corruption and apathy hasn't changed
My parents during that time rushed back from Shimla and were eye witness to all that's been said. My father told us he never knew Hindus could be so brutal, he'd witnessed pre and post independence riots was shocked.
Shame on the Congress Party who ditched Sikhs and betrayed Indian's.
Thanks for this excellent narrative Shekhar. Head hangs in shame, how we treated our own countrymen 40 yrs ago.
Incredibly way to explain the tragedy.
Thanks for the clear-cut headline Shekhar.
Shekhar saab bht bht dhanwaad dillo tuhada 🙂
Was an 8yr old in defence colony - Kota Mubarakpur across the street burnt , a furniture shop was looted , still etched in memory - didn’t know then why all this was happening
You are very right. That day was heart vibrating. I was at delhi near to Tilak nagar.
Sad and regretful history of our nation. Thank you for reminding us the horrible atrocities but more importantly calling out the complicity of the political party.
A very sad and shameful history of modern India. The nation must not be allowed to forget this, for those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.
Complicity of Congress is a criminal commission and that of Delhi police a criminal omission. A silver lining is the story of colony vigilante groups formed to protect Sikh neighbors. This gives a hope that there is a civil society indeed. May Almighty strengthen the civil society and the Indian democracy.
Thank you SG for recounting your story and for keeping your notes intact.
Thank you for writing in, Awadhesh ji. And thank you also for your faith and support...best wishes, Shekhar
Excellent report sir! I have learned so much, thank you.
Can you send the Link of this Show to Arfa Khanum sahiba ( WIRE ) plz ?
I was less than 8 years old at that time and lived in Shidipura near Karol Bagh in Delhi. This area was settled by Punjabis from west Punjab that went to Pakistan. I remember the looting in this area. My father took our neighbour uncle on his scooter to the gurudwara for his protection. Then later on at the railway station I saw one dead body that was covered up. It has to be the worst episode of humanity in our history. I hope we have evolved since then.
The series was carried out with utmost sensitivity 🙏🙏🙏. The necklacing thing: I heard it was also carried out during the Black July riots. Hope you come up with your account on that too
Sir can you please talk about what happened after Mahatma Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi assassination?
18:32 Sikh police officers were told to stay home to avoid them being attacked by mobs. If they were out on streets it would further escalate the violence.
SG, your episodes are so filled with humanity that I hope all of us can emulate in our dealings with others irrespective of race, religion...
Indeed Saddest part of post independence history of India - sad was saga of bhindranwaley nurtured by Indira's Intel Core & who eventually turned Frankenstein, saddest was desecration of golden temple by khalistanis as well as inevitable military action by Indira once the situation flared, sad was inevitable ( she knew it herself, expounded upon it during her last days in interviews and public meetings ) assassination of PM Indira Gandhi and then gruesome massacre of innocent members of our Sikh community by Congress goons across the country, for which almost no justice was delivered and the lack of closure gives a sound basis for extremist forces in our Sikh community to fuel separatism fires. Hopefully time will heal these wounds. And India and all Indians flourish in an air of righteousness, justice, peace and fraternity. Jai Hind. Shekhar Ji thanks for your humanity, sensitivity, wisdom and " history - telling " .
Very informative episode of CTC. Shekhar should also do a episode on hindu massacre in punjab, including incidents like dhaliwan bus mssacre, thapar university killings etc.
Thank you for the suggestion, Priyank. I will look into this...best wishes, Shekhar
Many thanks for giving the first hand account, instead of the usual reporting.
At this time, I was working in a company on the outskirts of Bangalore. The information of this horrible riot was fully suppressed in the print media which was the only source of information during those days. I learnt of the riots from a pair of truck driver and cleaner who delivered a truck load of goods. They were evidently Sikhs, but had badly cut hair and beard. Upon repeated questioning, the pair told me of the massacre up north, especially in Delhi, and that they had no choice but to disguise themselves by shedding hairs.
Rajiv Gandhi condoned this massacre with his infamous statement: “When a big tree falls, the earth shakes.”
So happy you have done this one Shekhar. It was/is a blot on Indians and done with so much impunity and arrogance. Shameful.
Calling out Police and Congress is very much appreciated. Delhi should be stripped out of it's status as capital of India.
This was a horrible time, and shekhar is right there was hardly any case of neighbors attacking each other. We had a sikh family living in our house. Also, congress workers were looting with impunity. They were going from home to home even trying clothes before looting. This was in south delhi. And yes, mostly people with cricket bats kept a vigil in the small bylanes and kept a watch from terraces. Horrible times.
Bad; absolutely nothing about the reasons for not taking any decisive decision by the Home Minister!!! Sad;
Hats off Sir to have the courage to say the truth.
Sir Thank you- this is by far the best episode of CTC. Witnessed all this as a 10 yr old.. absolutely meaningless mob mentality.. never should happen anywhere..
Thank you Shekhar Sir. After watching the 4 part series it feels like the knowledge you possess and experiences you have need to go in for a movie on yourself. Thank you again. These are realities today's generation needs to listen.. BTW, I was just born in 1984 Sep which helps me understand from where India has come up.
Very well explained episode Sir, although this episode is a shame for Indians but it was very interesting to hear your experience on it!
infact in kalkaji we sheltered this families and our elders didnt allow goon to touch anybody, they looted there shops .they came in dtc buses driving themselves.who provied this facility?i was too young to understand this now its clear.
1984 event is the only one that I consider as pogrom. They literally hunted down Sikhs. The bloodiest period of our history.
In Bengal, the Left Front didn't allow attack on Sikhs. I heard about that day from my mother who was returning from school when the news of Mrs Gandhi's assassination came. There was palpable tension and anger among the communities. My mother lived near a Gurudwara in Rashbihari Avenue, Kolkata. Hindus were very much protecting minority Sikhs. You will hear about them talking about Left's protectionist attitude during this time.
Rabindra nath tagore and forward block are 2 things we love the most about bengal.
True. They only allow attack on Hindus. And they allow it to this day.
@@SimranDhillon186 Forward Bloc is virtually irrelevant today.
Majority of the perpetrators who indulged in killing,arson and looting were the locals like Jats,Gurjars, Yadav's, Local SCs who were jealous that why the sardar refugees had become so rich whereas they were still reeling and this was furthered by the religious disharmony spread by the state at the time.
The 1984 anti-sikh massacre remains a blot on the history of India. The details of which makes one shudder thinking how cruel one human being can be to another in a particular situation. What remains more puzzling is a young prime minister Rajiv Gandhi and his government did not do anything to punish the criminals involved in such heinous crimes.
The resemblance with 2002 Godhra riots is astounding. A trigger incident, followed by seemingly communal riots as a proxy for chaos creators, police incompetance, political incompetence, 3 day riots ... Its like a playbook written n being followed.
Thank u for sharing ur experience 🙏
Very sad and sickening that many innocent lives were lost. Horrifying indeed
Sir, thanks. at least you brought it up.
Hello bro... Final analysis? What do you think transpired over the years leading to 1984
I was not yet a teenager at that time and living in Delhi. I was on my school's hockey field with a few classmates, one of whom was listening to the radio (I think he was listening to cricket commentary, if I'm not mistaken). When we returned to our classroom we were told that the rest of the school day had been called off early and that all students were to go back home. My school bus route was along the Ring Road and as we passed through AIIMS crossing (at that time there was no flyover there) we saw a massive crowd outside the hospital.
The arson and violence started that same evening. We saw a mob walk past our house. Fortunately, they did not see my grandfather (a Sikh)'s name written at our gate (or maybe they didn't know English). We were lucky. Later that night, from my house I could see something burning in the distance; later I came to know that it was a bus which had been set on fire. I don't know if anyone was killed or injured in that incident.
So we removed my grandfather's nameplate from the gate and for the next few days kept our living room and bedroom lights switched off in the evenings to make it appear as if no one lived in the house. I don't remember much else except that there was a 24-hour curfew imposed (not sure from which date). Don't know how my parents managed to buy food during those days.
When school reopened, I remember seeing a few Sikh boys (who used to wear patkas) now with short hair.
Those were terrible days, as were the years of terrorism in Punjab that followed.
Thank you for writing in, my friend. It is hard to recall those days, but unfortunately it is those terrible memories that will hopefully ensure we never repeat our mistakes as a country. Thank you also for your faith and support...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
@@ThePrintIndia Thank you for creating a trustworthy publication and also for Cut The Clutter, which is a wonderful concept.
can anyone provide a link to the previous episodes plz?
shekharji i was witness to that .i was in class 11th coming back from lodhi road in444 bus and our bus was stopped at safderjung airprt flyover and goons --- .i must say inside the bus other passengers di d enough but you know.they were driving dtc bus goons i will never forget as long i am alive i couldn't slleep for three days.
Shocking and sad phase indeed. Whether some of the perpetrators are around and aged, they should be punished!
i belong to a neighbourhood near Tilak nagar, my dad told me that one of my Tenants was saved by my Late Grandfather, he made the tenant wore a saree and dropped him near the gurudwara on a scooter. It wasnt religious attacks, it was insane! i hope nothing of this happens ever!
This is what Indian Government must do/
1. Have a nation day of remembrance and grievance and call it “Sikh Genocide Day”. Modi must apologize to Sikh community to what happened as a prime minister of the country without pointing fingers to any community or political parties
2. Create a national memorial at a prominent site in Delhi where every person who died either Hindu and Muslim his name should be inscribed and on the day of remembrance there should be a shanti Jyoti light up there
3. Acknowledge the perpetrators were never punished and have the families compensate or at the minimum try and prosecute the perpetrators
4. Have a chapter on Sikh genocide in our history books and teach this history properly where the state failed to protect its citizen !
5. In front of Modi should place a shila or a stone with inscription written in there that “never again” state will we ever attack the holy shrine
@@assassincreed1238 as a sikh i m ashamed of u did that comment talk abt justice no acknowledgement ka achar daloge
Why the fook would modi apologize? Go and ask italian party . In 1984, bjp was not even a chicken forget about them being in power. And sikhs don't have any problem with congress, congress mostly rule the state of punjab.
chup sikh abrahamic khalistani sikh terroistt war mongering rligion eww gross pagdi waering gross people ewww terroris religion🤮🤮🤮🤮
Thanks!
Ram vilas paswan still got respect in sikh community becuase he was one of very few politicians who actually saved sikhs in genocide.
CTC is becoming SG sir's autobiography
Gujarat, or Delhi, or Bhopal, or Muzaffarpur, the real culprits are roaming free with no fear of being hauled up. But that is the environment our political class have made for themselves - safe and secure.
Gujarat, was an exception. Culprits were prosecuted and convicted including a minister then
@@harish5242 but Amit bhai bailed her out by lying that she was with him on that fateful day. Vanjara, and his hounds are out and promoted.
Mass massacre happened before, against Brahmins in 1948 after assassination of Gandhiji, in Maharashtra by people of same ideology. No one will talk about it.
Thank you so much for this video.🙏🏽🙏🏽
Amazing analysis..
Thank you for your faith and support, Vikrant, we feel very encouraged...stay well and best wishes, Shekhar
Very touching narrative. It's a huge shame that none of those politicians were brought to justice.