[TF2] Bad Weapon Academy: The Brass Beast
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Ever seen a weapon and thought "How am I even supposed to use this piece of shit?" Don't worry. I'm here now.
In which I stop ignoring this channel for a year straight and look at the big brass beasty boy.
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Music used: Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Golden Wind OST - il vento d'oro
Magnum Force - TF2 Soundtrack
Pokemon Emerald OST (get it, because trumpets and the weapon is brass i'm a real comedian)
0:00 Introduction
2:45 Stats Breakdown
5:29 Strategy
6:44 Shotguns
8:25 Melee
8:56 Shotguns Continued
10:57 MvM
11:41 Potential Buffs and Conclusion 
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4:03
Now you see, the Brass Beast is designed that instead of you jumping around a corner and shredding, enemies jump around a corner and get shredded.
EXACTLY !!! omg.. It is so stupid when I heard ' oh I can't jump on and rev to kill. This is a bad weapon! ' . Like, as if that was all heavy is about. Try jumping around and shooting in the middle of a real war! Doesn't seem to work right ?
With the brass beast you can't do this, you have to outposition the opponents. And that's how I play it. And I don't even need to use the shotgun in tandem.
I agree the brass beast could be fixed but people play the game so stupidly that I always disagree with their arguments when hear them.
I'm just taking it out my chest bro.
Felipe Tony
the way you say it, it sounds like playing BB heavy has a mental game similar to ct sided counter strike, requiring precise positioning in order to deal damage effectively. I think most heavies are just too stuck in the roots of the meta to enjoy other miniguns that drastically change playstyle, like the Brass Beast and Huo Long Heater.
@@soopcanwastaken yeah. I don't have experience with counter strike, but you're right. I think that positioning is a strategy that is necessary for the heavy with any minigun since he is slow. The brass beast only takes it to the extreme.
So... Like a sentry
Just time the rev exactly when you get around the corner.
Fun fact: in x10 servers you are literally a sentry.
If you can rev it up
@@jargozle5393 you become practically invincible below 50% hp if you have a medic. aside from spies.
@@Niiue yeah 10x stock knife spies
@@Niiue or kunai
But is the damage buff now 200%
"The Brass Beast Heavy isn't just a sentrygun."
Optimal Brass Beast Heavy strategy: become a symbiotic organism with an engineer.
Honestly I wish valve played more into this, actually seems interesting if the stats incoraged this playstyle
Become mobile sentry
The Brovy is real
“We have *come* for your dispensers”
Raises the 20% damage resistance to be active as soon as you are spun up, not when you are at 50% hp and raises the damage bonus to 25%
If its the Sentry minigun, might as well go full ham on that gimmick
brass beast isnt BAD, its just the meta makes it bad since "oh you cant rev around a corner" (despite this CLEARLY being a huge "dont get on my point" weapon)
I’ve jump reved into power class-medic combos and just, won with the brass beast.
Exactly. It's not bad. It's a little underwhelming. I would replace the current Lower Rev up time, and speed reduction, with simple No Overheal or Reduced Overheal. And have the damage resistance be when you're revved up.
Massive, MASSIVE area denial. Shifting you off a point requires a manpower advantage or a sniper/spy instant kill.
@@puppieslovies if i may?
The brass beast itself has an odd spinup time yes but everytime i look at this weapon i cant help but think this is supposed to be a hard plant defense weapon. It reminds me so much of what the original gatling gun (old minigun from 1900's i think.). Once you had it planted you werent moving the damn thing for a while and the rev up time is also accurate in a sense, cause the brass beast is a look from the gatling gun that most older military's used way back then.
Its one of the best weapons in mvm
You’re not just the sentry, you’re the whole nest
and they are not clowns; they are the entire circus.
You can literally heal as fast as a dispenser the only thing is ammo
@@eeeeeeee4968 he's not just the nest he's the entire 2fort server
damn you Edgeworth
(Turns into teleporter)
"A lot of [engineers] are growing B R A I N S."
What the hell kind of pubs are you playing in?
The ones found manually via a legacy server browser.
Ever since uncle Dane gave cooperative engineering tips I've been seeing temporary engies upgrading teleporters for the regular engies its wholesome
@@gemstonegynoid7475 I've done that before. I see a bloody Level 1 Tele, so I quickly switch to Engie and get it up to 3, then go about my rounds.
Timestamp?
@@gemstonegynoid7475 I always do that, it’s common etiquette
"This is called the beast for a reason. It's just waiting to be unchained and let loose."
Great line
This weapon is basically "Your strengths are doubled, but so are your weaknesses. You gain twice the fun but also twice the pain that Heavy usually provides"
Exaggerated heavy
Double the Heavy.
Heavy²
Ah, the brass beast. I call this thing the sentry buster for a reason. At full rev, you can out-damage and outlast a level 3 in head a on 1 vs 1 fight. Sentry nest set up on top of the bridge on 2fort? Brass beast time.
That's assuming the engineer isn't going to be constantly healing it
@@perdomy or using the wrangler, keep in mind that it gives the sentry a shield
Unless there is a person defending it.
Octoheavy: YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER
Mechanical Menace reference??????!
12:00
That scout at close range lasting a freaking nanosecond against the beast.
I need sfm meme where scout shoots heavy and he starts slowly turn to him with concrete sounds
he was shredded before his nervous system could even register the pain from having 30 large caliber bullets inside his chest
12:00 Scout regrets his life decisions.
fucking atomized lmao
This made me laugh much harder than it should, lmao.
reduced to atoms
He was so confident that he was not using a brass beast he just stood there and died due to his foolishness.
scouts do like to run into sentries huh?
On a last-point hold, it's great to mention that the Dalokohs Bar pairs amazing with this. It brings the half health resistance to 175 whilst using it, and you're basically invulnerable while being healed by a level 3 dispenser or a medic.
This is mostly true, but the Dalohks Bar doesn’t stack with Medic’s overheal.
@@Spanishdog17 Overheal doesn't exceed 450, but what he's saying is the damage resistance kicks in sooner due to the increased max health. You're resisting more frequently!
@@Spanishdog17 IIRC Dalokohs Buff Stacks with QF Overheal but not Medigun Overheal
Brass beast is the quintessential weapon of choice for the “Heavy-On-Kart” meta. Back when it had a 20% resistance regardless of health on it, made Kritzkrieg pockets a terror to deal with.
Exactly !
Why'd they nerf that?
@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth No idea. I'll go through some math and decide on an answer afterwards (This very quickly became a long-winded comment brainstorming how effective a Brass Beast Heavy would be before the nerf, so apologies for the length).
Not Brass Beast:
300 (no bonuses)
350 (Dalokohs bar)
450 (max overheal)
Post nerf Brass Beast
337 (150 x 1.2 = 180, 180 + 150 = 330, ignoring excess damage)
385 (175 x 1.2 = 210, 210 + 175 = 385, ignoring excess damage)
495 (225 x 1.2 = 270, 270 + 225 = 495, ignoring excess damage and healing)
Pre nerf Brass Beast
360 (300 x 1.2 = 360)
420 (350 x 1.2 = 420)
540 (450 x 1.2 =540)
Obviously, pre nerf Brass Beast actually got really fucking beefy, but combined with healing his beefiness reaches new heights. Because damage resistance makes existing health count for more instead of adding more health, healing counts for more as well. A level 3 dispenser provides 20 health per second, but since the Brass Beast makes each hit point count for 1.2 instead of 1, he actually gets 24 health per second. Healing from a Medic during combat counts for 28.8 instead of 24. Put more simply, on top of having an effective 20% more health, he has an effective 20% increased health regeneration, so long as damage is taken while he is revved up.
Lets compare a Not Brass Beast Heavy (NBBH) with a pocket medic and full overcharge vs a Brass Beast Heavy (BBH) with pocket medic and full overcharge in a 5 second duel.
NBBH 450 + 24 x 5 =570
BBH 540 + 28.8 x 5 = 684
As can be seen here, an overcharge BBH with 5 seconds of healing demolishes the poor overcharge NBBH with 5 seconds of healing, holding a 114 health advantage. In fact, an overcharge BBH has 18 more effective health than an overcharged NBBH with 3 seconds of healing time (450 + 24 x 3 = 522).
Moving on to how effective the BBH would be against the common threat.
The BBH getting 60 increased health already allows a BBH to survive 3 pipes and 3 Scout max ramp-up meatshots, so it is already quite tough. However, the Dalokohs bar makes things interesting.
Overall, the pre nerf Dalokohs BBH (DBBH) ends up in a very awkward health position such that they are nearly impossible to kill 1v1. 420 effective health means that 4 consecutive pipes will fail to kill a DBBH (20 health left), 4 consecutive rockets require max damage ramp up to kill a DBBH (without ramp up DBBH will have 60 health left), a Scout requires 4 max ramp-up meatshots to put down a DBBH (damage is exact, so if one pellet misses the Scout needs an extra shot). DBBH will survive 3 base damage sticky bombs with 60 health to spare, while an Overcharged BBH (OBBH) will survive 4 with 60 health to spare. An OBBH can tank 4 Direct Hit rockets (without damage ramp up OBBH will have 108 health left), and with any amount of healing the OBBH will survive a 5th. An OBBH can survive 5 scattergun max ramp-up meatshots with 15 health to spare. Not even a Sniper is 100% effective anymore, since a DBBH can tank 2 quickscope headshots with 60 health to spare, and can tank a third if they hide to Dalokohs heal, while an OBBH can survive even a Machina headshot if they have full health. Random crits and backstabs are the only thing seriously threatening a BBH in a 1v1 environment anymore.
After considering all of this, I guess can understand the change. A DBBH with up to 342 DPS at mid range and up to 618 DPS at close range without any healing support is getting a little too hard to dislodge (420 effective health + 120 effective Dalokohs bar healing every 9 seconds), while an OBBH is almost unfair (540 health effective + 28.8 effective H/S + 240/360 effective burst healing every 10/30 seconds). Direct attacks on a DBBH are impossible for anything but a really good Scout or another Heavy, and while dislodging one is a little easier if you use corners to your advantage, it is still a needlessly time consuming and difficult prospect. In team fights he's a little more vulnerable, but the DPS a BBH brings combined with how much effort is required to remove him alone gives a decisive advantage to the team that has him (Spies could work wonders, but with a good Pyro that tactic isn't reliable).
Of course, I could be wrong. But this is where the math has brought me.
@@notalive5479
You are on the money; Brass Beast was nerfed to have the more restricted damage resistance because, as it was before, you could tank sniper shots and overall fucktons of damage if anything was actively healing you, especially if you had an ammo source (like a nearby crate or a dispenser/payload cart). You basically became a super sentry that didn't need to be actively repaired or reloaded that was able to move & accomplish objectives, demanding multiple enemies focus you down (making them vulnerable to everyone else on your team).
Ironically, The Brass Beast is considered to be really good in Mann v Machine. And I've seen some Heavies in other modes use The Brass Beast effectively.
i mean you dont really need to move too much in mvm, as the heavy you will either be frontlines with the medic or back up near the engine's dispenser, the movement speed downsides aren't as crippling in mvm as it is in normal game. you also get 20% more dmg which is very useful
@@joshgab7827 Yup. The Natascha is also much more effective in Mann v Machine, because of the same reasons. It's a question of whether you want to deal more damage, or slow down the enemies. Both can work in normal TF2, but they're mostly good for defensive situations where you don't plan to move or push. For offense, the stock mini-gun or the Tomislav works better.
@@JCBro-yg8vd now the thing is if you have extra, and I mean EXTRA cash you can get knockback rage. If you learn to use this correctly thats a bunch of help against uber medics
Thanks to the damage boost, it can take down tanks a lot faster once you max the fire rate
@@ViceN53X miniguns deal less damage to tanks
Brass beast is unironically my favorite minigum
Being a tank heavy with the dalakos or having a good flank with this fucker is amazing
Amazing for heavies main job which is being a defensive tank
All this thing needs is like more resistance and maybe a knock back resistance buff
One of my friends also suggested crit resistance under 50% health
It’s broken
+20% accuracy would be good
@@Breakaway-ic5gj No, actually I think giving it a -20% accuracy and removing the damage bonus for a +50% firing speed bonus would be better, so it becomes more of a reverse Tomislav than it already is.
@@manologamerss5801 Than it wouldn't do shit at long range and not be fast enough to get close to anyone at close range
@@Breakaway-ic5gj Would it though? Would it? A 50% firing rate bonus is hefty, and with only a 20% dps bonus the Brass Beast already outdamages the Tomislav at mid to long ranges, so it's not that bad, but when it comes to Giants it would be brutal. 50% higher DPS than stock would get just ridiculous.
The brass beast isnt a bad weapon,just focus on camping around a corner and waiting for the enemy to come to you.
And get kick for been afk or doing nothing
The Brass Beast was made to be fired from a stationary position as an AAA gun.
I'm pretty sure the true AA gun is the natasha although the brass beast is more of a AT gun
What the hell does AAA, AA or AT mean
@@duncanchillake8024 AA is anti air, AAA is anti air artillery, and AT is anti tank.
@@eMercody ahh thanks man. I am guessing this makes natascha an AA and AAA weapon.
It's more akin to an "Anti-thisfuckingdirection" gun
Personally I feel like they should give the beast an accuracy bonus. Make you a real sentry and be able to actually hit enemies at long range to make up for you practically being practically glued to your spot.
Yes it kinda rips off the tomislav, but it has so many unique traits that I don't think it could hurt to lose one.
That sounds like a good idea for a buff.
I think it's a terrible idea, buffs should either increase a weapon's punishment to the player for playing too foolishly, or decrease a weapon's punishment to it's player depending on whether the weapon is too op or not, that way the weapon's intended play style is intact whilst being more fair than in it's previous iteration. (RiP baby face blaster)
Your accuracy buff doesn't answer the weapon's real problem, which is the fact that it's too bloody slow, I'd say instead of buffing it's accuracy we buff it's rev speed.
I kinda disagree I think the tomi should have be the accurate minigun and the trash beast’s damage up already compensates for long range
@@pikapika7566 Be respectful to the Brass Beast.
@@pikapika7566 why not lessen the damage fall off from the minigun it might not constantly hit targets from afar but when it does it can still deal a ton of punishment
"Coolest looking primary"
Hue-long heater: *sad noises*
i mean, huo long heater looks like its made of wood and yet it shoots flames?
@@Emrirwastaken From what I have heard originally Huo Long Heater was gonna shoot Fireworks, and it's magazine was gonna be like a basket
It should've been like a sustained fire rocket launcher but has spin up and limited mobility
"When you use this weapon, you need to invalidate its weaknesses."
Pretty solid general advice that works for most "bad" weapons.
YES!! YOU'RE ALIVE!!
О так ты тоже любишь посмотреть ноунеймовых ютуберов по тф? Не знал
Ты везде ._.
Hi
Frog
@@lilracism4878
giraffe
12:00 that scout was just literally swept away XD
Holy shit, he got erased from the universe
Yeah. That's what happens when you hold a choke with this weapon while defending.
@@walterheisenbergwhite6034 also what happens when a scout stands still while fighting a heavy
The Spy dancing into view and then just immediately getting blown the fuck away got me so good
Got a time stamp?
@@twinzzlers 0:00
I feel personally attacked in that intro because I have 30 hours on the game and I thinked it was the best mini gun in the game
Me too kid, me too
30 h? Those are rookie numbers u gotta bump those numbers up
lmao its the worst minigun, accept it. Whatever the brass breast does, the Tomislav does better
@@tuocbui stock is better imo
@@tuocbui mvm
My team: why do you keep using the brass beast?
Me: cause it's easy, and it does a lotta damage
Also the brass beast always has been and always will be my favorite minigun
Nice Happy Souls reference
Praise the Sun!
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Why is RUclips recommending me videos that I'm in...
This is now really really really concerning.
*They know*
@@bubalackgaming8892 oh no
*they watch you when you sleep*
Hire a bodyguard
@Unity Nice bill wurtz reference
I feel like the Brass Beast is one of those weapons that isn't actually BAD, it's just people don't bother to learn how to play it. Also yes it is a MvM fist of god.
I literally can stomp a heavy medic or lvl 3 sentry being repaired or wrangled using just the brass beast from the sheer damage it outputs. Imo its important to run with a shotty to make up for the slow spinup in close quarters and isnt always the best for offense due to your slow speed and its not great for long ranged damage but long range crits usually do the job on light classes thinking their out of range (random crits or kritzktieg ofc).
I usually either run beast or stock but natascha and tomi are good aswell
"You'd expect to see on a gibbus heavy who's been playing for like, 30 hours." Wow, you described me perfectly, and I used the brass beast.
I joined while smissmas, got the smissmas sweater, made me a brass beast because it soumded cool and deleted anyone that came to close to me on wutville. I love that thing.
I use it with the Dalokos bar and the Bread Bite (GRU). Dalokos makes up for some of the gru health drain and gives you the 20% damage resistance at higher health. You use both to move to and get set up at each new ambush location. Frontier is a great map for that.
And also when low health, and chocolate is not enough, you can run for health faster with the gru. Personally i like using kgb. (No joke i like using it with brass beast and chocolate.
Next weapon: Bison? Shortstop? Caber?
Bison sounds good
Bison it is
Shortstop isn't that bad. Compared to the sun on a shit and back scatter, it's no where close to bad.
@@abandonedaccountlel7605 the back scatter is not that bad either, it's just not worth it
tbh caber is kind of fun to use
I feel like, since it's based on an old timey Gatling gun, it could actually have fire rate build up over a few seconds instead of the crippling slow spin up
Like the Laser Machine Gun from Terraria.
Cool idea.
This can Outdamage all of Heavy's Minigun
If you can make it into battle
before a spy kills you and you have to get back into there.
Isn't that what the gloves of running urgently are for? I don't see any reason why anyone should keep it Revved while going across the map.
It doesn't slow you down passively, only slows you when revving up
Is better for enemy come to you preferably near battle where enemy may pop up into your range
Teleporter + Gloves of Running Urgently
Me and my friend thought of a new meme strategy
Hamon Heavy:
A group of heavies with stock fists and steak and one vaccinator medic
Its the "suicide hoovie" strategy
Any primary
Steak
Warrior's spirit
Eat le steak, run into le enemy, die painfully
@@odeioenzos I love your name tho
@@samuelfvalim7418 chad bic melhor que qualquer bostinha faber castell
@@odeioenzos based
Brass heavies: exist
Snipers: H E L O
To be fair heavies are already giant targets for Snipers no matter what minigun they use
@@maison8822 well, atleast in the other miniguns you can maybe escape? Tho you're still likely to die.
Brass heavies: exist
Bot snipers: O H N O
Seriously, the brass beast is a beast against bots
@@the866-sushi with a vac medic or stock uber, yes. without a medic, you're fucked against any sniper
unless its me
@@dd6742 i mean.. if youre running away you arent gonna be revved up
I love how Jerma and star are still known for playing tf2
Y’all just aren’t ready for the disciplinary action brass beast team up, add the conch and you’re laughing
It also turns into an unstoppable powerhouse when the dalokahs bar is consumed.
i just realised you only have 300 subs, whoa dude, with this quality you deserve atleast 200k
Dony worry, he gained 2.7 k subs in like 4 months
@@bobbycrofts9241 ive seen somebody gain 5k in like 2 weeks
He's now at 20k
@@aids571 45 k
53k
Here's an idea, what if the weapon gave you incredible resistence when facing towards someone?
But from the sides (and maybe even worse at the back) you have no resistance or worse
My favorite thing about this series is that many of the weapons aren't even terrible, they are just niche and need that niche pointed out.
Seeing Star/Ster and Jerma in a video, so cool :)
The classic "Jerma is mad part 2"
When the imposter is sus
fr
JoJo: Golden Beast
Heavy experience requiem
Uh
I get it
Wha-
Shouldn't it be
Heavy is Unbreakable
Crazy Beast
haha yes Jojo reference
The Brass Beast is the prime example of Heavy working well as a centerpiece player on a team, if you've got teammates willing to support you and keep the Snipers and Spies off your back, it takes away the biggest problem and increases your ability to be absolutely devastating
So i tried this out yesterday. The Beast, the family business and the fists of steel. It worked out quite well! Being able to choose exactly when and where you use the brass beast instead of relying solely on it works wonders!
I actually really like the chocolate bar with the Brass Beast. If you're really hunkered down on defense the chocolate can give you more of a buffer against spam, especially since the damage resistance comes into play faster. You can actually survive a headshot with the BB and the chocolate unless the shot is flat out 100% charged. Eating chocolate in the corner can also compensate for not having healing on-hand, since it'll be faster than respawning.
I have always been a brass beast main and I totally agree with zhis video, but I must say zhat zhe holiday punch and dalokohs work well too. ANY lunchbox item along side brass beast allows you to not just be zhe sentry, but also zhe dispenser. And zhe holiday punch is one of if not zhe most powerful melee weapon for heavy. It allows you to stun enemies, EVEN WHEN ZHEY'RE UBERED, allowing you to even counter ubered heavies as you'll waste zheir uber, have plenty of time to rev up, and also have zhe advantage of zhe dalokohs where you can have more health zhan a stock heavy. Zhis is more of zhe defensive playstyle you mentioned. However zhis is an AMAZING offensive alternative if I do say so myself.
I've stopped enemy pushes with a suicide laugh punch on the medic or his healing target
Its funny
As a former scout main, I cannot agree more as I can make more use of my map knowledge for melee.
Oksana is my favorite minigun
Hey wait a minute.. medic cant use miniguns!
The nice thing about standing next to a dispenser is you get infinite ammo, meaning you can constantly spycheck the area at long range
0:01 me when NNN is over
Given how much Big Joey has a shotgun fetish and is desperate for the Heavy to have a reason to use shotguns without memeing fat scout, I'm surprised he didn't think of this.
6:15 Oh yes, they are, and very vocally so. And I think we know which archbishop we can thank for that...
☑ giorno's theme
☑ Jojo's reference
☑ cart defending
*I like.*
At a glance the boot & the ant analogy works pretty well for this. The brass beast is already really good at defense and survivability, adding the sandwich to that is just making a boot even bigger for killing the ant. The boot doesn't need to be that big it just needs to get the job done.
Something else of note: The Brass Beast really benefits from teammate coordination. If you can get warning that people are heading your way without needing to have LOS, the rev-up time issue is much less of a concern. The enemy coming around a corner into a revved up brass beast is going to result in not much of a team very quickly.
9:48 *B R A I N S*
I honestly think this is one of the best weapons of the bad weapon academy
I think a simple accuracy buff like that of the Tomislav would make it better for the playstyle the weapon seems to be designed for. Also fits with the theme of the weapon
I've found that it is extremely effective to just sit on top of the cart on attac. It completely negates the movement downside and you can just stay revved up so that's negated too. You get infinite ammo and it works as long as you can stay on the cart. When the enemy team takes the cart however, you should switch to any other minigun.
AAAH!
The intro confused me cause I was just listening to il vento d'oro when I came over here and I thought RUclips had bugged out
It’s funny coming back to this, because I think the Dalokohs has a bit of a say in here. The 50 health gives an extra buffer zone during the rev-up. While not a ton, it still gives that little bit of extra bulk, and even ups the half-health point to 175. It also really ramps-up the FoS resistances.
8:20
I genuinely thought that video would be lost to time, but I'm so glad people still remember it.
I'll never forget my contact lenses arriving.
A sniper holding an angle is also being a sentry. A very long range one, but a sentry nonetheless. Conclusion : There is nothing wrong being a sentry.
real talk: the pokemon gen 3 soundtrack is unironically some of the best pieces of music ever in a pokemon game
This is a wonderful video and I really enjoyed it! The background music is carefully placed and really fits in, good job.
There was a part where you talked about a certain scenario in dustbowl, but the clip shown was in a completely different map and conditions. In the future try to put clips that explain the audio! :)
MvM: let me introduce myself
soundsmith's 3rd heavy plays: engineer
5:25
Fish: I’ve figured out the secret to this weapon”
Me: bullshi-
Fish: actually shows good tips and strats on how to use the damn thing
Me: that crazy son of a bitch actually did it.
6:07 the moment you've been waiting for
9:42 i feel attacked
Honestly the shotgun strategy works decent with the normal minigun. I'm pretty sure sure your "Brass Beast secret strategy" is literally how a full stock heavy is supposed to be played too. Sure the minigun is great but a shotgun is a shotgun. If you get caught with your pants down as a heavy having the shotgun out for a quick reflex shot is usually better then waiting for the minigun to rev up. The shotgun might be completely overshadowed by the minigun in terms of raw power but the shotgun is still a shotgun.
Wow, feels like I discovered something before youtubers, then they took it and explained it in a more easy-to understand way. Wow :D
11:40
HOLE IN ONE!
You smart idiot
I love your quips at the end of each video!
It's a nice treat after you watch a video all the way to the end!
No wonder you're the favorite of Eminem weapon reviews.
Idea to Fix the Beast:
Introduce recoil to propel the Heavy backwards (like on eg. the Force-a-Nature). Calibrate this so that the Heavy's backward speed from the recoil (when not holding W or other keys) is about half the walk speed when revved up with a Stock Minigun.
This would make the gun itself into a sort of mobility tool to counterbalance the crazy rev up time and slowdown when revved. You can achieve the Heavy's normal walk speed, but only when shooting directly away from the direction you want to go. This will force the Player to be really choosy about when, where, and at what they fire the thing, but with practice can use the extra mobility from the recoil to get in and out of situations as though they were walking with a regular Minigun. Naturally it'd still favor defensive positions, where say Heavy's back is against a wall or where retreating is more important than advancing, and make jump-revving and the like still a pain. Hopefully, though, it'd make the trade for increased damage at least more fair; what do you think?
Good idea
One different combo that’s great with the BB is the Dolokos Bar.
Normally it gives you 50 HP, but with the BB’s bonus it effectively gives you 75 bonus HP, that’s half of a quick scope’s dmg.
Honestly, after this video, the brass beast became one of my favorite of the miniguns, it's just so much fun
10:14 after this 12 words the engeener number of players down to zero
The brass beast is surprisingly good, especially on defense or in MvM. It's good for defending last points in control points or attack defense. Combine it with a shotgun or the Dalokohs Bar, the Fists of Steel, a medic, a level 3, and a dispenser, it's one of the best defenses I've seen in my thousand hours of play.
this game hasn't been updated in so long that people are trying to make use of the bad weapons that need attention from the dev team. we have soundsmith's beggar's bazooka video, now this, also i see the classic in my recommendations, and i myself even started using the vaccinator instead of the stock medi gun
Are you for real saying the Beggar's is a bad weapon?
> implying the Beggar's is bad
@@miky9504 see, now it's not considered trash
Even after the nerf some time ago the beggars is still borderline broken, as some one who's been using it since it came out, and roughly 14k TF2 hours under my belt, I can safely tell you it's in a good place.
My advice to you... don't believe everything you here on a RUclips channel, just because someone has youtube following doesn't automatically make them good, or an expert.
5:30 None of us have figured this out? But there are hundreds of us!
Making it so the damage resistance is ALWAYS active, so long as your revved would be a good buff in my eyes.
HE'S BACK
i actually had made a loadout specificly for the brass beast
Brass Beast
The Choco Bar
FOS
The Choco Bar does pair really well. It increase the amount of health the damage mitigation while spun up applies to so you are actually getting a little more bang for your buck with that stat. But even though it works I just can't play heavy with any lunch box item anymore. Its just too boring. Adding a shotgun just ups the entertainment value of heavy so much. Especially when combined with the brass beast. The joy of hunting down demos with the shotgun and them acting suprised because they thought you were a sitting duck with the BB is just priceless.
Thats like the russian sentry loudot
Okay so... totally unrelated to the video as a whole, but watching your videos always hits me with a fat slap of nostalgia because of the Pokémon music you use, honestly, I'm amazed more people don't use Pokémon music because it *universally* slaps, without being too distracting if you put it on in the background.
I think a way to make it truly "unleash the beast" would be to give the Brass Beast the ability to give movement buffs to yourself upon kills. Making yourself a monster once you're given the opportunity to rev up and start shredding the enemy.
I love when I’m on engineer and I have a heavy in my dispenser. It helps me keep my building safe to help my team
Personally i belive The Brass Beast is great (in my experience) for King Of The Hill, especially ones like Harvest that have an enclosed, small space to rev up your BB.
I think I've seen all of these now. This is actually a very good series!
“Hold on guys, I’m repairing my Brass Beast Lvl 4 Sentry Gun”
You should do the claidheamh mòr for demo knight. I know its sort of reverted but that 15% still hurts
Learn to use it
If you flank right I think it should be better
2:05
... well if i don't feel called out
though i'll keep using the brass beast without fear of the enemy escaping because i only use heavy to kill myg0t bots
I tend to use sniper on heavy bots.
Your outro’s make me feel so invigorated!
4:41 "...Because you're just so vulnerable not being able to move"
Not like the slightly faster movement speed while spun up with any other gun will save you. If you're spun up with any other minigun, the sniper will still headshot you, the spy will still backstab you.
Also you can still perfectly jump corners revved, just jump around a corner and mouse 2 while in the air, you will land around the corner revved up ready to mow them down. Another thing is, the Brass Beast is the #1 minigun in heavy vs. heavy fights, it's deadly damage bonus plus damage resistance when below half health insures you A. Do more damage, and B. Take less damage from the other heavy. If you have a perfect 1v1 heavy fight with a brass beast against any other minigun, the brass beast will win every fight
I understand where you're coming from but the rev movement speed penalty effects heavy's ability to press the advantage, not his survivability. If you're revved up for extend periods of time, either contesting an objective or defending an area, you'll often have to leave your self exposed or position yourself with awkward blind spots. Furthermore, both cons of the brass beast makes offensive actions less affective as fish explains briefly after the time.
That being said, the brass beast is an excellent tool for defence and zoning, especially in closed spaces, for if the enemy is forced to fight you then they must do so at great range or at their own peril.
I just watched this again, and I was thinking, "what if the extra reduced speed only applied when firing?". Like you still go normal minigun heavy speed when revved up but when you actually shoot then your speed gets reduced even further to the current brass beast speed and maybe for a quarter second after letting go of the trigger so players can't just single click over and over to negate it.
That wouldn't be a bad change for the weapon. Hell, considering the weapon does more damage than stock, the slowdown in speed while firing would give the sense that the weapon's recoil is slowing you down.
The Brass Beast with Kritzkrieg has the highest DPS in the game. Yeah.
already has the highest dps crits make it a nightmare
Btw, the dps of the breas beast with kritskreig at point blank is 18000
@@eh2587 actually it’s around 1948 dps
Fat pyro loadout:
-Huolong Heater
-Shotgun
-Fists
Don’t actually fire your mini gun, go near enemies and rev up to set them in flames.
This vid made me smile way more than I was expecting
Hey man! I want to start editing my TF2 clips! What editing software do you use?
yea
I personally recommend premiere pro, has a lot of features and it isn't known for crashing like Vegas, also comes with a lot of tutorials
That's actually hilarious
Back when I played, I had a great game with the brass beast (though to be fair, this was shortly after the game went F2P, so it kind of isn't fair), but that was because I had just picked up and was using the Family Business. So I'd hunker down in a corner with the BB and mow down all the solo demomen rushes, and then roam with the shotgun
If you sit on top of the payload cart, keep the barrel spinning, and got a medic on you at most times, then you are essentially a machine gun mounted onto a giant bomb on wheels.
But Snipers are an issue, and so are Spies who can drop from above, which CAN happen on most maps, due to walkways that go over the tracks.
I always did this with the Brass Beast which is the best strategy in offence in Payload:
Jump onto the payload cart from a medium/high ledge, always keep the Beast spun up, and watch yourself move, riding it, faster than spun up stock minigun. Crouch and uncrouch repeatedly in irregular patterns whenever you see Snipers so that they either miss your head, or bodyshot you instead.