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Totally took the words out of my mouth for the nj situation Even if they felt they NEEDED to do the live stream without anyone’s knowledge(allegedly) the execution was sooo bad The girls were so rude and disrespectful, demanding your company to do stuff that will hurt them not only financially + making other idols uncomfortable in the company is crazy The way they were addressing their new ceo was disrespectful, they weren’t even calling her with her ceo status and directly addressing bsh just makes them look entitled and spoiled
I'd advise that the word 'stupid' or 'dumb' not be used. It's only because for many people (not just kpop), they do things because they're ignorant of what real life, real businesses, real consequences are like. We're all ignorant of something....many things, actually. I mean look at the Chase Bank fiasco. Most knew what they were doing but others were genuinely ignorant of the consequences.
New jeans need to realise they're not bts Or blackpink of their companies where the company will catch cold if they sneezed. Hybe can just create another newjeans
This whole situation with new jeans makes my head hurts cuz I’m so tired like if they think they were being mistreated just because someone didn’t say hi to them then I don’t think they’re no way ready for the real world
I hate how yall are being insensitive about this topic ,was not just for that...remember korea IS not like other countries,respect IS important there, and Also there were bullying them and send Their personal info to people... Yes They still kids but they wanted that to end
@@NicolasaNicolasaright like people dont understand cultural differences and being looked at condescendingly by employees of your label is hurtful in general. also its like nobody considers that we don’t know just how bad it is because we AREN’T there
newjeans parents and min heejin have dragged illit and lesserafim through the mud but somehow newjeans are victims cause someone didn’t say hi to them in the elevator 😟 i love the girls but i think the adults around them really need to do better. using them to manipulate a narrative that will only get other groups dragged is sad
@@michaeladove7269 Yeah, she did. Though, if you ask the some bunnies they’ll tell you they were faked. However, the truth is… MHJ came out with a statement saying the texts were “taken out of context”. As if there is ANY kind of context that makes those messages okay.
My take on this will always remain the same NewJeans did not have any business in this mess at all. This was between hybe, Ador, and MHJ. NJ is just two years into their career with a lot of luck and talent, but what exactly do they understand about corporate entertainment business, especially the K-pop industry MHJ is here for her money, stock option, and a notch to her resume. She is not their mother or guardian at all. This is the copirate world (don’t blur the line CEO and employees) K-pop fans need to understand that. I hope NJ will be fine after this mess they intentionally and willingly involved themselves
These girls have always felt to me spoiled and arrogant, and I tried to keep it to myself because there was no evidence of that, just the vibes, I did not know it was this BAD. Imagine asking your boss to hire back someone they fired, or else they will quit, and you make it public at that.
I don't hate NJ and don't have anything against them but the whole livestream is so dumb. There so many points that makes it looks even more stupid. Maybe the stupidest thing is see so many people calling them brave for speak for themselves when the whole thing honestly just look arrogant to me. Maybe is not the girls fault but their decision shouldn't applauded so much as they're doing something brave.
The New jeans case is a mess... i am all in to support them if they're being bullied, but when they gave Hybe that ultimatum it killed everything, like, my girlies really wouldn't survive a day in the real world, here you get changes in managements all the time and if you don't like it, you can go, work enviroments are a mess, sometimes people just doesn't like you and while one can say that's bullying, that other person has also the right to ignore you (now i'm not excusing bullying, but this is the real world..) if you do something like this in a company, you get kicked out, why would a company cope with all your bs just because you want your old boss back?? And now i'm just wondering what would they do by the 25th if Hybe doesn't do what they asked??? Oh and the "we did this by ourselves, without anyones advice..." i call it bs, even more after the news of MHJ calling for an emergency meeting of the Ador team to pick new management 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ I honestly just hope they had been previously legally adviced and they're ready for whatever consequences this might have
A few hours ago a publication came out where they tried to talk to hybe and they told them one thing and did another, so they said they would talk about it, hybe told them that if they did they would terminate their contract, the lady also told them no. They did it, in the end they did it, this information came out and within hours they deleted it, they are silencing them In the end the lady is not good but hybe is worse We talk about ultimatums but this would not have been generated if Hybe had acted differently and not used the threat, coercion and silent abuse.
@@Arizzu_98 I doubt they have a real understanding of the kind of killer move that thing was. The most sad part is they are now used to live on the horns of the moon and now, unless their pockets are like thousands of millions of dollars, they might lose everything and even more. If this brakes their contracts, it is not only their contract, it is the cancelations fees of their tour, their merch for the tour and all the cancelations fees with the brands and what not, they might end with a life long debt for this moment.
but they are in the real world in grown up business trying to gain attention for problems they have aided in... imagine all the time theyve wasted and staffs time for it to be a temporary group full of fake pr? id leave and work with another group whos serious about performing.
Literally!! When new jeans debuted everyone was against mhj and there were so many people saying she’s creepy(cus she is). But now where are these people? I guess it’s fine now actually yeah…I mean she made new jeans successful so it’s fine if she’s a little pedophilic actually✨ Like I’m surprised people didn’t see this coming, we were saying this since they debuted. Mhj has always been shady and a weirdo, why are people scared to say it now? Anyway mhj needs to go, like get her away from any underage idols and trainees immediately. She’s clearly (allegedly) a groomer. Like it’s not normal to die on a hill for your boss, no one should be that close and intimately attached to their boss.
I'm not sure about the song name but it's was inappropriate to use greek theme semi nude portrait or statues as background when majority of them were underage so called signature style decision taken by mhj
Nj is just surrounded by a bunch of incompetent adults and it’s really sad. It frustrates me to see them sticking up for mhj, who said all these nasty things about them, (allegedly) enabled workplace sa, defrauding a company, etc. it irritates me to see the parents care more about “who debuted first” and not say a lick about alleged sexualization of their daughters while training under source music. Another thing about the parents that blows me is the fact that they wait until now to air out grievances like poor living conditions like the training dorms and such; if my teenage daughter was living in a roach infested dorm and had to arrive work abnormal hours-the second I find out I’m plucking her right out of there. The fact you couldn’t even directly contact or see her alone should be a red flag enough, but I digress. And even with the comments calling one of the girls fat, I would NOT be defending a woman who called mine or anybody else’s kid a fat pig or whatever she said like seriously? It’s like everybody who shouldn’t be involved in this mess between HYBE and mhj care about things that don’t matter in the long run/things that should’ve been brought up ages ago. I still have to remind myself that they’ve been in the industry at very young ages, and that they’ve had different life experiences than most at their ages and that these girls have definitely been groomed by that sicko, but I can understand where people are coming from when they say that they feel the girls are acting like spoiled brats and are entitled. Unfortunately we live in a world where actions have consequences and it sucks that these girls have had all the wrong people in their ear that don’t really care about their best interests and only see dollar signs. All they had to do was stay quiet and neutral in regards to anything mhj related. And as a side note, them being alienated from their peers is wrong, but mhj has been alienating them from other groups excluding bts to begin with and that manager was right to tell whomever it was to not speak to them because look what happened when Hanni got on that livestream and brought that interaction up-bunnies started bombarding le sserafim and illit with hate yet again. They’re definitely victims of mhj, but so are a lot of other people.
They have been under fire and keep shooting themselves in the foot since before, during and now after their last comeback. I think that with correct managment and PR they can rise againg to a normal group again, I am not sure they can peak like in the past again.
@@belaytriks there’s a huge chance that they might be blacklisted in the Korean entertainment industry because no label would want to sign with them after their actions, being a minor isn’t enough excuse for many companies to risk their reputation by recruiting NewJeans
I totally agree NewJeans came off as spoiled brats and the entitlement is mind blowing. I really hope HYBE makes an example out of them they need to be taught a valuable lesson in business. Clearly MHJ wasn't doing that she was too busy grooming those young ladies and it probably ruined their careers. Let's give MHJ her credit she really spoiled these young ladies and they are not trying to go back to being treated like all the other idol groups. I'm really ready for this mess to be over and looking forward to BTS later this year. I can't wait till September 25 when MHJ is still fired that was a bold threat by NewJeans because HYBE isn't going to bring back their beloved CEO😂😂😂
I feel so bad for them since they have very obviously been grooming / manipulated by min heejin when I say that I stand by them I’m only talking about the girls and NOT min heejin or hybe. I hope they will see soon that she isn’t good and I hope they they can continue being successful. Also I wouldn’t call them spoiled since min heejin probably got into their head so much that they think that they are being abused and or mistreated.
What I don't understand is that the more stans are associating Min Heejin with New Jeans the less they are helping. They are making the situation worse by supporting Min Heejin purposely ignoring all the things that she had done. Hybe is seen as the villain, yes they are unethical but it was Min Heejin who called names and included New Jeans in her drama not Hybe. Yet stans see her as the victim? Common sense and critical thinking skills are lacking sadly. When New Jeans showed support for MHJ instead of feeling worried that the girls are being manipulated by that toxic woman they expect Hybe to kiss her boot and let be CEO again. Then make excuses as to why she's not in the wrong and that New Jeans can't survive without her. I can't anymore.
Nwjns situation is prime example of why minors should not even train to become idols let alone minor becoming an idol they can easily get manipulated groomed excploited etc to the point they think their lavish living style is mistreating just because manager told illit not to great them ngl manager was right hanni didnt deserve that greating after what happened to illit bc of mhj
Bunnies calling for "action", ready to run gunghoe in the WRONG DIRECTION of the enemy. I'm not a fear not a illit or army stan but the DEGREE and the AMOUNT that others have been dragged due to there now EX manager cannot be overlooked. "Groomed, bloomed, and doomed" a term from a very famous movie about a manager who "molds" a child star....only to groom them and convince them there in love, its really so sad but fits NJS sitch so well, all those girls parents didn't just drop the ball they coated it in lead and threw it to the ocean. *2-10 Not 1 lie found* ❤❤❤❤❤
About NJ, one thing is to have compasion for them and another is to have simpaty for them. They have been groomed, they deserve compasion but they do not have my simpaty. They are risking all for someone that have use them as a money machine and meat shield. If Hybe really cares for their artist, then it should take full responsability to leave that teens with such manipulator and make sure they still have a career after they come to their senses with theraphy, work and huge doses of reality checks.
The way NJ is supporting MHJ it feels like there's something I'm missing... like I cannot comprehend how they'd support her even after everything... Like what is going on with them?
Newjeans ruined their careers completely if they want to go to another company they have to rebrand their name their songs are owned by hybe and they wont have quality songs that fans were drawn to however no company will take them no company wants their idols whining about something minor as not being greeted
I was not up to speed on the HYBE v MHJ issue until recently and it’s very clear that those girls never had any adults looking out for their best interest. It’s not their fault they were groomed by MHJ but that live was extremely idiotic and calculated. They knew they would get their fans support against the big bad HYBE. Whatever issues they have with the company should have been addressed with the company first prior to going public with their grievances. They seem to only care about MHJ while ignoring that none of this would’ve happened had she not tried to go behind the company’s back to do a hostile takeover. I feel no more empathy for NJ after their continued support for a woman that thinks her fake crocodile tears will make her a victim. I do feel bad for other artist being roped in to cause a distraction from the actual culprit. NJ should buy out their contract and leave with MHJ. They clearly can’t afford to do that so they should negotiate with HYBE instead of demanding they get their way. Very unprofessional as well as disrespectful to the company that is bankrolling your career.
I wouldn’t personally go as far as to call them names, I’m just confused about a few things? like firstly, how they can be so confident to make demands of a company like hybe, while also being so insecure as to think NJ isn’t NJ without min heejin. also I’m praying they lawyered up before their livestream; regardless of if they plan to terminate their contracts if their demands aren’t met, they ARE still under hybe and they will still have to deal with the legal repercussions bc I’m pretty sure that live violated a contract or two. I truly wish the best for them, it is just crazy how this is playing out.
Why would Mamamoo want to go as group in different company instead of company they helped rise, they would have more say and freedom as group in RBW than hybe and hwasa and wheein went to smaller agency because they seek more freedom none of them would want pressure of big conglomerate
honestly i do think a lot of idols secretly have egos similarly to newjeans we dont yet realise it until they make a mountsin out of a molehill mess of a situation. i dont pity the members i more so pity all the things they couldve achieved in the mean time? what an absolute waste of a group and its potential that it didnt even reach also the staffs that speant much time on this group alone. they have too much drama and egoism surrounding themselves that i dont even think a rebrand is an option for the would be former members of the group. what an absolute headache for hybe tho, i dont like bang pd but he made them known they really put it into perspective of why sometimees it best to wait until they are a little bit more grown to handle "grown up" situations / business, imho they werent mentally prepared enough and these young groups really out the kids in kpop title making kpop seem worse than it needs be, it wouldnt have been that bad if they had just got on with what they wanted to achieve sometimes u have to give and take a little and adjust to situations even if they arent what they want but i feel like these younger idol groups are getting more mentally weaker and thus incapable of making mature choices for themselves even if they were groomed by mhj clown, its still a making of their own doing just as much its almost like i dont know what they want bcuz mommy mhj isnt going to wipe their tears every time they have a public or online meltdown
I don't understand why everyone's so pressed about the NJ Live. Y'all love bring up the "other groups have/had it worse" or "they're acting like brats", they aren't. The girls yes were privileged having a say in the creative concept being involved in processes most idols aren't , from their debut and it was snatched from them (via management restructuring), so it makes fucking sense that they want to retain their 'artistry' rather than just being factory produced idols like almost every other group in the industry. "Its the way the world works" is like the worst argument to bring up, the girls actively raised their voices against HYBE who just like any other major label is money making corp and there's nothing wrong w it. If it was BTS, BP, Twice, Aespa, Itzy, Stray Kids or literally any other major group y'all would eat it up so quick. The anti-NJ agenda is seriously old like try to understand things from the artists perspectives. Also the 'other groups had it worse' argument is such bullshit like yea sure they did and they didn't do anything about, but what kinda justification is that to hate on the girls for wanting to not be trapped in a mismanagement cycle. Grow up seriously and stop glorifying corporations just cuz ur faves were produced by the same company.
A stupid person or a stupid behavior IS STUPID!!Why the ehll should We be scared or attackted for not playing along with this playdate and babysitting idols(in this case newjean?? Like yes, newjeans memebers talking on that live in yt and the speaking members just scream "A naive dumb " person!! And please Hyein is the teenager and young one , 3/5 of them are LITERALL adults
The way those parents were pbsessed with lessera is crazy like mhj took te trainees from source they were going bankrupt ofc they would rush the debit to get some check it is not like nwjns popularity is lower than lesserafim's
mhj did some serious lovebombing and unprofessional bonding to get the girls to start a live stream demanding that their true boss (HYBE) bring back the reason the company is going through this mess in the first place. The girls are skilled but they are not smart, they need to focus on studies and take a hiatus so a level-headed adult can explain why every other adult utterly failed them and the creeps of the industry will not have their best interests in mind either.
9:14 No, how? Everybody needs to grow up eventually. Especially the established and longer-lasting groups or artists. It's just about how they (and we) make it work.
My thoughts about Tzuyu: Tbh I barely see a Twice member as soloists (except for Nayeon, Jihyo and maybe Jeongyeon) because of them lack in something and for Tzuyu i always said that her stage presence is way too less for a soloist. In Twice, the other members kinda can compensate that but as a soloist it`s just her and i don`t think her stage presence is good enough for a soloist.
We can’t say that they weren’t mistreated because we haven’t heard or seen everything all the shade isn’t necessary until we have all the facts yeah it’s messy af but that’s still the case 🤷🏽♀️ Oooooo that “sue-you” pronunciation is killing me 😂
Min Heejin before stepping down as the ceo had a MONTH salary of arround 80 million dollars, she will be more than fine is she is fired completly from Hybe, the members of new jeans... i dont think so
It's funny because the same people who say that minors should not debut for their protection are the first to attack them and give their opinion as if they were morally superior. Precisely those who say that are the first to attack minors
Thank you! This is why it makes me so angry when people compare New Jeans to Fifty Fifty. The Fifty Fifty members (the old line up) could have died because of all the dieting, the unhealthy less food or the medicine or surgeries they couldn`t do earlier because Attrakt say so. This is mistreatment. Not changing CEO because your old CEO is a creep. MIstreatment and mismanagement often goes together but not all the time and in New Jeans case it`s mismanagement (like you said) and not mistreatment. They get brand deals after brand deals. In what world is this mistreatment? These girls really don`t know how the world works and it shows.
What mistreatment? Someone not saying hi to you is the only thing that they hang up to "prove" mistreatment. Sorry to break it to you but that is just life, people around you are not obliged to say hello and do not have to bend over backward for your every whims. MHJ has put other hybe's group in the bullseye of online bullies, you cannot expect them to greet you after that. Think about groups like omegaX or loona and then talk about mistreatment. I love the girls of NJ, but that was the dumbest move of the century and MHJ will not save them.
1+2. Can we please remember that only Minji was an adult when they debuted and she was bearly on the adult side. All these girls met Min Hee Jin as children who wanted to become idols, Min Hee Jin had a strategy/concept to make them stand out and it worked so they are thankful for the success and since she was their CEO they are more likely to associate her with their success first, also I can’t say for sure but probably the fact that Min Hee Jin is well a woman also helped to build trust since society as a whole isn’t all open to calling women predators or creeps because world history, so the fact that Min Hee Jin is a woman probably helped in making them feel understood and safe compared to Hybe's chairman, I think, who's obviously a man, NewJeans most likely don't associate Min Hee Jin with anything bad and even if someone showed them proof they would most likely defend or ask Min Hee Jin if that was true, which she would naturally deny, plus didn’t Min Hee Jin write in one of those leaked messages that she likes how gullible teenagers are? I’m not that into this entire situation so if they were proven false I’m sorry but if they weren’t then that probably can give you an idea on how she talked with the girls. The point is, please don’t blame NewJeans for everything that’s happening, the members are what, two years into their career? They don’t have that much experience working with different sorts of people yet, and most likely don’t really know any better, plus they knew Min Hee Jin for years, they trust her so it’s normal they are attached also even their parents seem to have some type of contact with Min Hee Jin, if the parents trust, so will the girls, I'm not saying that the parents are right for allowing their teenage daughters debut or not stopping them from doing whatever they do right now but parents are still usually people we trust the most. I’m not a bunny and only know few of NewJeans songs but still it’s unfair to the girls who were most likely manipulated in some way to do their actions. 4. Yes, I actually had a fight about this under a different video with some deffensive Once but I'll try to keep it short here, Tzuyu has what I call a 'focused-face' which basically means that she's so focused on dancing she forgets to change her expression, which is not easy (from my own experiance) but it's still upsettting considering all her years in the industry even in her mv she smiled maybe two times but again if she was never corrected it won't be easy for her to change it, but she's not the only one who has this 'focused-face' problem in Twice anyway. The song isn't really my cup of tea but it's not bad by any means. 5-10. Yes, just yes.
I get what you're saying but at the end of the day nwjns choose their path. If they're on the wrong path they will face consequences which is exactly what's happening. We all know both their parents and them are blinded by her manipulation tactic. And also that m@d woman needs to stop dragging nwjns into this mess made by herself, and also 👖 need to stop involving in this too. They actually don't know anything about real life consequences. It seems like they'll learn it the hard way which is unfortunate :(
@@Bloom_Jiya no, I get that, I don't live in a bubble, just some people forget that they are very young and got manipulated by Min Hee Jin, not that they just do it because they want to, I mean they did choose to do it themselves but it was because of the manipulation they experianced, okay I'm rammbling I'll stop writing-
@@zuza3377 I don't think they'll ever come out of the safe bubble created by MHJ. When they realise it will be too late by then. I hope they'll learn it soon though. It's hard seeing them suffer cuz of that woman.
im just thinking this is why kpop companies should have some government funds for when their own idols decide to badly fuck it up for themselves, idgaf at this point cause kpop is becoming more and more immature due to the fact theyd rather have controllable puppets than serious artists or performers. But what an absolute waste of staffs time / attention to the members, an absolute waste of concepts that couldve had more thought put into it to make newjeans last longer than a scandal / law suit / controversy of their own doing and what a waste of hiring minors in general, ik some adult idols are none better but if u were hybe what age range would u pick to handle these types of situations? i dont think if they were adults that newjeans wouldve done this and id rather blame mhj cause the other ggs couldve existed peacefully if it werent for her so she and newjeans parents should pay compensation for the damage they inflicted and newjeans should go to therapy and rethink their options better next time. so much wasted time they couldve spent actually doing what they wanted to still under hybe and i bet there are 20 somethings who thought theyd debut in newjeans but didnt fit the requirements so got booted r laughing at this group in relief its not themselves
I can't be the only one thinking that the newjeans video is suspicious, like pls look at the start I know they were waiting for the fans to join but those looks on there faces something is not right I've seen these faces, that not happy nor confident nor determined faces, they looks in distresse like there looking around like some else is in the room, and the script, it look like it was giving to them plus the look on there faces they look like they were rethinking what they were about to say, I'm sorry but I'm not buying it they didn't look like they wanted to talk, they had that sad face that I have when I just got yelled at by my mom, artist are not guilty and I hope that this won't ruin there career, becuz the message didn't look like it came from them, and people are blind not to see that😢
Also…Opinions on Yeonjun’s solo debut GGUM?….for me,I appreciate the fact that he himself helped in the production and that it was quite catchy…I really do wish more creativity was there…a bit underwhelming considering yeonjun’s talent and skill…
@@Jibywon The song was catchy,fun but a bit too trendy and repetitive for me…also I really appreciate that he helped with the production,but I think his voice could’ve been utilized better…it just doesnt feel like a proper solo debut song for someone like yeonjun esp with how underwhelming it is when you compare the hype for his solo debut compared to the actual product.
I'm not denying that the adults failed them: 1. Their parents failed to prepared them for the real world. 2. Min Heejin manipulated and used them even went as far as to dragging them into her mess. I really cannot stand her. 3. Hybe's incompetence allowed this situation to be blown out of proportion and failed to deal with Min Heejin properly. 4. The other adults in the building failed to advice New Jeans to stay out of the fight and continue on their work. I'm well aware how inexperienced they are but due to experience myself, no matter the age your actions will have consequences.
They have been failed by all so-called adults in this situation. It wasn't the best idea what they did but at least they tried to stand up for themselves I admire them for that at least both parties that are making so much money of them don't really care about them. I wish also that people would stop telling them to shut up! We have no idea what they are going through.
MHJ wouldn't leave her position at SM without HYBE basically gifting her a music label. As well as, hand picking any trainees she wants. If HYPE really wanted to they could replace all the members in NJ with different girls, what would the current members do?
While I 100% agree with the hair color thing, I doubt idols actually _choose_ to change it all the time. At least not in the beginning, because I'm convinced Irene would stab someone if they made her bleach her hair again
Kudos to your video im glad someone said it Also one more biggest.thing you forgot fans controlling their artists And also fantasticize about them. By that i meant bf hubby wives etx etc like common you fans wont get them ever lol And also immense of hate if thry chose to support one group like duh whats with all hatred if you dont like it keep to yourself why start fanwars dumb and also toxic fans also plan twisted plan to hurt groups🙃🤦🏻♀️
7:44 You wanted feedback... Who? White writing on dominantly white video doesn't work. It's impossible to read. At least mention the name.'Su..., her...' Who?! I'm listening, but I don't know who you're talking about. PS: Do you mean Tzuyu from Twice? I think I got it figured out! PPS: Also, your headlines are shown a bit too short, impossible to read in the blink of an eye.
Hybe had the opportunity to jerk mhj's chain long ago...and they didn't. Bow at the corporate alter like a fool if you want, but there is such a thing as executive incompetence. This situation is ate up with it. You will pay for your out of control ego eventually...till then, its the do not recommend button for you
No one is bowing down to Hybe. But that will not change the fact that MHJ is not anymore the CEO . Moreover MHJ ≠ NewJeans. NewJeans can stand on their own so if you are a real bunny support NEwjeans not MHJ.
Yes there is such a thing as executive incompetence. NewJeans is not MHJ. So just learn that NewJeans will be totally fine without MHJ as long as they continue to release good music and improve their talent
Yes there is such a thing as executive incompetence. NewJeans is not MHJ. So just learn that NewJeans will be totally fine without MHJ as long as they continue to release good music and improve their talent
They way you are hungry to Bragg about other fandom ..when locals themselves said this , even billboard too .. Nothing new when your fav get hate then you put blame on other without proof ..but this time locals are hating her performance..( well iam not hating her performance it's good )
@@ONLYBTSPAVEDTHEWAY-ju8yi lol how do you know i was talking about your FANDOM when i didn't even took anyone name ??? That means I am correct you know it's your NIBBI FANDOM hating on her cause you all are bitter about her win . it's not local whole twitter and insta are filled with your fandom hate 'he deserves more'. 'seven was better ' blah blah then should have voted right???? This doesn't need proof everyone can see who is hating her
@@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestableeven if you are not talking about the specific fandom but you blame it to other whoever you actually said is to invite anyone to beg for more hate to lisa more
@@rosie-h1f idc when it's blink doing something it's all over internet you all bash us but when something happens to Blackpink specifically army do something to blackpink blink are still wrong to want to address that. We are not hating idols like them nor i am but these army are like cockroaches
@@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable because i have seen blinks are dragging us since yesterday..so i also thought you are also doing the same without proof well what I can accept from chapri nibbi fandom
You have bad information, the person who started the problem was Hybe by publishing a private audit, it was later that Meen Hee spoke at the press conference, but the person who initially took the bad steps was Hybe, after what happened he has been intimidating the staff and using coercion and he released information that only Sourse and Hybe had to the public, he told the parents that he would not use certain information and the next day he used it, the last thing is that they threatened the producer of etta and the issue turned out so badly that he is going to sue them for lying and manipulating, so? Who are the manipulators? The lady is not a saint but those from hybe are worse, who are the liars and manipulators?
whether you agree about it being publicized or not, the audit was about hybe, ador, and min hee jin. min hee jin inappropriately and unfairly brought the members of new jeans into it during her press conference instead of making any mention of them off limits everyone including herself.
@@Jess1013 The point is not that you agree, that audit was private and it was the one that started the problem, it was hybe who started the problem, the lady acted badly but those who started the problem were hybe, it is because of hybe that all this happened, and it was exposed How hybe is, how they wanted the lady to lie that she had created leserafim, how they proposed to illegally increase the sales or reproductions of ne jeans and she did not accept, so they were afraid of the lady who did not know lent to his lies? The lady is not a saint, but it is revealed that Hybe is a liar and manipulator, and what he has been doing since all this happened is using harassment, threats and coercion, so what is worse? The lady is not a saint but what Hybe has done is worse, at least the lady cares something nj even though she is not the best, but Hybe? From the beginning they did not take care of them and they even took out personal information and videos, so? Hybe is going to take care of them? Not because they are not interested, they were already going to send them on hiatus and they continued lying saying that they were going to find them a winning producer. gramys, and when they gave their options there was no gramys winner, they were just lying to maintain their image but behind them they use lies and abuse
@@mss-w5eu good? Hybe only mentioned min heejin but heejin put new jeans, illit, le sseafim, two, riize, aespa, etc into this mess. It could've been solved privately and protecting all those groups image but she's made that shit press conference
@@mss-w5e Love how y'all keep using the rumors that Hybe was thinking about a hiatus as a gag when even if they did put them on... They can. It makes sense why
1. The media was gonna find out anyway that's why alot of times Hybe likes to beat the media by saying their stuff. 2. "He told the parents..." What is your evidence of this? In fact this whole second part is ridiculous 3. Keep all the context. They told the director SW that he cannot post the ETA behind the scenes in the future due to something in it being against APPLE. He wanted to be stubborn so they threaten him and he decided to delete his other channel videos and blast ADOR.
Y'all are weird! The New Geans didn't commit a crime, you know that, right?? Your reaction is extreme, so what if they want their boss back and they say it publicly. I just seems like a bad decision not an irreversible crime, Y'all reaction is super weird and extreme
@@MonMonAg-95 yeah newjeans didn't commit crimes, but their former CEO min heejin did, which is why an audit was launched by hybe back in April of this year and why she was asked to resign from her position as ceo😭😭 Min heejin not only did this, but ontop of it defamed other groups, was caught bad mouthing the newjeans members on her work laptop (called them idiots, b*tches, fat pigs) and recently trying to cover up an SA case. She was also generally unprofessional in a the corporate setting and misconducted herself. It most likely seems that the 5 members are genuinely unaware of the severity of what min heejin did, like misappropriation of trade secrets, leaking confidential internal info and attempting a company takeover. Not to mention how they made false claims in their live stream, like saying they own copyrights to their music. 💀💀
@yurimius y'all are still way too involved. Like you don't know them. You could just stop listening to their music and ignore them but you don't. You continue to fill your time up with following them and obsessing over what they are doing. It's weird
2:10 In a twisted and unusual way, let's hope Hybe owns their songs, brand, name, everything. They are very respectful of their artists and might've given NJ rights that were not deserved. They rightfully always credit everybody for every little thing. Then what?
I thought it couldn't get worse after the embarrassing live and the NA appearance. I was dead wrong. A little stream by two of the girls laughing about what amounts to fooling the NA with the tears and lies...wow. Not really wise to do that, making fun of a governmental body...they tend to be a bit testy about that....
I encourage you to watch the video til the end. Please do not attack me, if the wording is off I apologize. I don't mean any disrespect. I'm still working on my wording. I would also appreciate it if I can get some feedback on my wording as well. It will help greatly. The sole purpose is to share my thoughts, for you to enjoy my video and have discussions.
No problem. These are your opinions. If people attack you, then that's life.
Totally took the words out of my mouth for the nj situation
Even if they felt they NEEDED to do the live stream without anyone’s knowledge(allegedly) the execution was sooo bad
The girls were so rude and disrespectful, demanding your company to do stuff that will hurt them not only financially + making other idols uncomfortable in the company is crazy
The way they were addressing their new ceo was disrespectful, they weren’t even calling her with her ceo status and directly addressing bsh just makes them look entitled and spoiled
I'd advise that the word 'stupid' or 'dumb' not be used. It's only because for many people (not just kpop), they do things because they're ignorant of what real life, real businesses, real consequences are like. We're all ignorant of something....many things, actually.
I mean look at the Chase Bank fiasco. Most knew what they were doing but others were genuinely ignorant of the consequences.
You are entitled to your opinion (this is your channel) and there is nothing wrong with the words that you use.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@honeyg1018 Still would appreciate feedback though.
also if what they think is "mistreatment" they should look to what older groups or idols experienced they had it worse
New jeans need to realise they're not bts Or blackpink of their companies where the company will catch cold if they sneezed. Hybe can just create another newjeans
BTS is so much more polite and self aware.
They are a textbook case of grooming and the most pressing evidence as to why minors should not be in the industry.
THISSSSSSSS!!!!!!
MHJ is NIGHTMARE at its Worst. NJ is following her into her black hole.
True mhj has dragged them into to the black hole it's just sad and they were being rude but I love them still but I'm VERRYYY disappointed w them..
This whole situation with new jeans makes my head hurts cuz I’m so tired like if they think they were being mistreated just because someone didn’t say hi to them then I don’t think they’re no way ready for the real world
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For real. They are being delusional. I don't hate them but it is too much.
I hate how yall are being insensitive about this topic ,was not just for that...remember korea IS not like other countries,respect IS important there, and Also there were bullying them and send Their personal info to people... Yes They still kids but they wanted that to end
@@NicolasaNicolasaright like people dont understand cultural differences and being looked at condescendingly by employees of your label is hurtful in general. also its like nobody considers that we don’t know just how bad it is because we AREN’T there
newjeans parents and min heejin have dragged illit and lesserafim through the mud but somehow newjeans are victims cause someone didn’t say hi to them in the elevator 😟 i love the girls but i think the adults around them really need to do better. using them to manipulate a narrative that will only get other groups dragged is sad
Didn't MHJ call the NJ girls fat and lazy? I wonder if bullying other people could come out of this. It's not a new thing in Psychology.
@@michaeladove7269 Yeah, she did. Though, if you ask the some bunnies they’ll tell you they were faked.
However, the truth is… MHJ came out with a statement saying the texts were “taken out of context”. As if there is ANY kind of context that makes those messages okay.
Nj didnt read the room. "Never overshadow your boss" 😂
Newjeans need to go and be with minhejin
My take on this will always remain the same
NewJeans did not have any business in this mess at all. This was between hybe, Ador, and MHJ.
NJ is just two years into their career with a lot of luck and talent, but what exactly do they understand about corporate entertainment business, especially the K-pop industry
MHJ is here for her money, stock option, and a notch to her resume. She is not their mother or guardian at all. This is the copirate world (don’t blur the line CEO and employees) K-pop fans need to understand that.
I hope NJ will be fine after this mess they intentionally and willingly involved themselves
These girls have always felt to me spoiled and arrogant, and I tried to keep it to myself because there was no evidence of that, just the vibes, I did not know it was this BAD. Imagine asking your boss to hire back someone they fired, or else they will quit, and you make it public at that.
I don't hate NJ and don't have anything against them but the whole livestream is so dumb. There so many points that makes it looks even more stupid. Maybe the stupidest thing is see so many people calling them brave for speak for themselves when the whole thing honestly just look arrogant to me. Maybe is not the girls fault but their decision shouldn't applauded so much as they're doing something brave.
The New jeans case is a mess... i am all in to support them if they're being bullied, but when they gave Hybe that ultimatum it killed everything, like, my girlies really wouldn't survive a day in the real world, here you get changes in managements all the time and if you don't like it, you can go, work enviroments are a mess, sometimes people just doesn't like you and while one can say that's bullying, that other person has also the right to ignore you (now i'm not excusing bullying, but this is the real world..) if you do something like this in a company, you get kicked out, why would a company cope with all your bs just because you want your old boss back??
And now i'm just wondering what would they do by the 25th if Hybe doesn't do what they asked???
Oh and the "we did this by ourselves, without anyones advice..." i call it bs, even more after the news of MHJ calling for an emergency meeting of the Ador team to pick new management 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I honestly just hope they had been previously legally adviced and they're ready for whatever consequences this might have
A few hours ago a publication came out where they tried to talk to hybe and they told them one thing and did another, so they said they would talk about it, hybe told them that if they did they would terminate their contract, the lady also told them no. They did it, in the end they did it, this information came out and within hours they deleted it, they are silencing them
In the end the lady is not good but hybe is worse
We talk about ultimatums but this would not have been generated if Hybe had acted differently and not used the threat, coercion and silent abuse.
@@Arizzu_98 I doubt they have a real understanding of the kind of killer move that thing was. The most sad part is they are now used to live on the horns of the moon and now, unless their pockets are like thousands of millions of dollars, they might lose everything and even more. If this brakes their contracts, it is not only their contract, it is the cancelations fees of their tour, their merch for the tour and all the cancelations fees with the brands and what not, they might end with a life long debt for this moment.
@@mss-w5eyou can’t give ultimatums to the boss 🧐
but they are in the real world in grown up business trying to gain attention for problems they have aided in... imagine all the time theyve wasted and staffs time for it to be a temporary group full of fake pr? id leave and work with another group whos serious about performing.
NewJeans are like the old 50 50. I like the new 50 50. Looking forward to the redebut of NextJeans without all the problematic girls.
Lesson for newjeans: don't side with mhj
They have very obviously been groomed by her
The fact that nj situation will never happened if mhj just leaved other group alone
Idk how people are convinced to side with mhj when a song such as cookie EXISTS😭
Or how sweet !!!
Literally!! When new jeans debuted everyone was against mhj and there were so many people saying she’s creepy(cus she is). But now where are these people? I guess it’s fine now actually yeah…I mean she made new jeans successful so it’s fine if she’s a little pedophilic actually✨
Like I’m surprised people didn’t see this coming, we were saying this since they debuted. Mhj has always been shady and a weirdo, why are people scared to say it now? Anyway mhj needs to go, like get her away from any underage idols and trainees immediately. She’s clearly (allegedly) a groomer. Like it’s not normal to die on a hill for your boss, no one should be that close and intimately attached to their boss.
I'm not sure about the song name but it's was inappropriate to use greek theme semi nude portrait or statues as background when majority of them were underage so called signature style decision taken by mhj
Nj is just surrounded by a bunch of incompetent adults and it’s really sad.
It frustrates me to see them sticking up for mhj, who said all these nasty things about them, (allegedly) enabled workplace sa, defrauding a company, etc. it irritates me to see the parents care more about “who debuted first” and not say a lick about alleged sexualization of their daughters while training under source music. Another thing about the parents that blows me is the fact that they wait until now to air out grievances like poor living conditions like the training dorms and such; if my teenage daughter was living in a roach infested dorm and had to arrive work abnormal hours-the second I find out I’m plucking her right out of there. The fact you couldn’t even directly contact or see her alone should be a red flag enough, but I digress. And even with the comments calling one of the girls fat, I would NOT be defending a woman who called mine or anybody else’s kid a fat pig or whatever she said like seriously?
It’s like everybody who shouldn’t be involved in this mess between HYBE and mhj care about things that don’t matter in the long run/things that should’ve been brought up ages ago.
I still have to remind myself that they’ve been in the industry at very young ages, and that they’ve had different life experiences than most at their ages and that these girls have definitely been groomed by that sicko, but I can understand where people are coming from when they say that they feel the girls are acting like spoiled brats and are entitled. Unfortunately we live in a world where actions have consequences and it sucks that these girls have had all the wrong people in their ear that don’t really care about their best interests and only see dollar signs. All they had to do was stay quiet and neutral in regards to anything mhj related.
And as a side note, them being alienated from their peers is wrong, but mhj has been alienating them from other groups excluding bts to begin with and that manager was right to tell whomever it was to not speak to them because look what happened when Hanni got on that livestream and brought that interaction up-bunnies started bombarding le sserafim and illit with hate yet again. They’re definitely victims of mhj, but so are a lot of other people.
New Jeans has peaked anyways , How Sweet and the other single didnt feel like we were going any higher .
They have been under fire and keep shooting themselves in the foot since before, during and now after their last comeback.
I think that with correct managment and PR they can rise againg to a normal group again, I am not sure they can peak like in the past again.
@@belaytriks there’s a huge chance that they might be blacklisted in the Korean entertainment industry because no label would want to sign with them after their actions, being a minor isn’t enough excuse for many companies to risk their reputation by recruiting NewJeans
@@Samuel-hu8ukif they are minors their parents are not let's let that stup1d excuse die down already
I totally agree NewJeans came off as spoiled brats and the entitlement is mind blowing. I really hope HYBE makes an example out of them they need to be taught a valuable lesson in business. Clearly MHJ wasn't doing that she was too busy grooming those young ladies and it probably ruined their careers. Let's give MHJ her credit she really spoiled these young ladies and they are not trying to go back to being treated like all the other idol groups. I'm really ready for this mess to be over and looking forward to BTS later this year. I can't wait till September 25 when MHJ is still fired that was a bold threat by NewJeans because HYBE isn't going to bring back their beloved CEO😂😂😂
1. Yessss, what they are is mismanaged not mistreated !!!
Funny fact is their fandom now supporting Jungkook whom they were abusing 😅😅😅
Because of his post in support of NJ today I’ll bet.
@@EecO7Jnp definitely most insecure stupid cult fandom
It's almost like NewJeans think they're BTS or SEVENTEEN. Hybe could always make another NewJeans.
I feel so bad for them since they have very obviously been grooming / manipulated by min heejin when I say that I stand by them I’m only talking about the girls and NOT min heejin or hybe. I hope they will see soon that she isn’t good and I hope they they can continue being successful. Also I wouldn’t call them spoiled since min heejin probably got into their head so much that they think that they are being abused and or mistreated.
I'm working on a video where I make the argument that NewJeans is a literal cult. 😬 MHJ is a comic book villain and my heart breaks for them.
What I don't understand is that the more stans are associating Min Heejin with New Jeans the less they are helping. They are making the situation worse by supporting Min Heejin purposely ignoring all the things that she had done. Hybe is seen as the villain, yes they are unethical but it was Min Heejin who called names and included New Jeans in her drama not Hybe. Yet stans see her as the victim? Common sense and critical thinking skills are lacking sadly. When New Jeans showed support for MHJ instead of feeling worried that the girls are being manipulated by that toxic woman they expect Hybe to kiss her boot and let be CEO again. Then make excuses as to why she's not in the wrong and that New Jeans can't survive without her. I can't anymore.
Nwjns situation is prime example of why minors should not even train to become idols let alone minor becoming an idol they can easily get manipulated groomed excploited etc to the point they think their lavish living style is mistreating just because manager told illit not to great them ngl manager was right hanni didnt deserve that greating after what happened to illit bc of mhj
Mhj is just using newjeans as a shield for make herself look good and innocent while all of this is her fault
I agree with the new jeans one a lot
I like your content
Bunnies calling for "action", ready to run gunghoe in the WRONG DIRECTION of the enemy. I'm not a fear not a illit or army stan but the DEGREE and the AMOUNT that others have been dragged due to there now EX manager cannot be overlooked. "Groomed, bloomed, and doomed" a term from a very famous movie about a manager who "molds" a child star....only to groom them and convince them there in love, its really so sad but fits NJS sitch so well, all those girls parents didn't just drop the ball they coated it in lead and threw it to the ocean. *2-10 Not 1 lie found* ❤❤❤❤❤
About NJ, one thing is to have compasion for them and another is to have simpaty for them. They have been groomed, they deserve compasion but they do not have my simpaty.
They are risking all for someone that have use them as a money machine and meat shield. If Hybe really cares for their artist, then it should take full responsability to leave that teens with such manipulator and make sure they still have a career after they come to their senses with theraphy, work and huge doses of reality checks.
I agree with you on the hair color thing. Theres a time where i was always excited for idols next hair color
The way NJ is supporting MHJ it feels like there's something I'm missing... like I cannot comprehend how they'd support her even after everything...
Like what is going on with them?
Newjeans ruined their careers completely if they want to go to another company they have to rebrand their name their songs are owned by hybe and they wont have quality songs that fans were drawn to however no company will take them no company wants their idols whining about something minor as not being greeted
Tell them!!!!! Because this situation is so messed up
I was not up to speed on the HYBE v MHJ issue until recently and it’s very clear that those girls never had any adults looking out for their best interest. It’s not their fault they were groomed by MHJ but that live was extremely idiotic and calculated. They knew they would get their fans support against the big bad HYBE. Whatever issues they have with the company should have been addressed with the company first prior to going public with their grievances. They seem to only care about MHJ while ignoring that none of this would’ve happened had she not tried to go behind the company’s back to do a hostile takeover. I feel no more empathy for NJ after their continued support for a woman that thinks her fake crocodile tears will make her a victim. I do feel bad for other artist being roped in to cause a distraction from the actual culprit. NJ should buy out their contract and leave with MHJ. They clearly can’t afford to do that so they should negotiate with HYBE instead of demanding they get their way. Very unprofessional as well as disrespectful to the company that is bankrolling your career.
I wouldn’t personally go as far as to call them names, I’m just confused about a few things? like firstly, how they can be so confident to make demands of a company like hybe, while also being so insecure as to think NJ isn’t NJ without min heejin. also I’m praying they lawyered up before their livestream; regardless of if they plan to terminate their contracts if their demands aren’t met, they ARE still under hybe and they will still have to deal with the legal repercussions bc I’m pretty sure that live violated a contract or two. I truly wish the best for them, it is just crazy how this is playing out.
100% on your thoughts revolving NJ/MHJ
Why can't HYBE take MAMAMOO??
Like seriously Mamamoo together with bts they would rule the kpop industry
Why would Mamamoo want to go as group in different company instead of company they helped rise, they would have more say and freedom as group in RBW than hybe and hwasa and wheein went to smaller agency because they seek more freedom none of them would want pressure of big conglomerate
@@WarriorSageNeha freedom in what ? like self production?
BTS and HYBE already do rule the kpop industry because BTS are Global Super Artists
Nj has to pay a humonguos amont of money for terminating their contract if they want to leave with MHJ...
honestly i do think a lot of idols secretly have egos similarly to newjeans we dont yet realise it until they make a mountsin out of a molehill mess of a situation.
i dont pity the members i more so pity all the things they couldve achieved in the mean time? what an absolute waste of a group and its potential that it didnt even reach also the staffs that speant much time on this group alone. they have too much drama and egoism surrounding themselves that i dont even think a rebrand is an option for the would be former members of the group. what an absolute headache for hybe tho, i dont like bang pd but he made them known
they really put it into perspective of why sometimees it best to wait until they are a little bit more grown to handle "grown up" situations / business, imho they werent mentally prepared enough and these young groups really out the kids in kpop title making kpop seem worse than it needs be, it wouldnt have been that bad if they had just got on with what they wanted to achieve sometimes u have to give and take a little and adjust to situations even if they arent what they want but i feel like these younger idol groups are getting more mentally weaker and thus incapable of making mature choices for themselves even if they were groomed by mhj clown, its still a making of their own doing just as much its almost like i dont know what they want bcuz mommy mhj isnt going to wipe their tears every time they have a public or online meltdown
I don't understand why everyone's so pressed about the NJ Live. Y'all love bring up the "other groups have/had it worse" or "they're acting like brats", they aren't. The girls yes were privileged having a say in the creative concept being involved in processes most idols aren't , from their debut and it was snatched from them (via management restructuring), so it makes fucking sense that they want to retain their 'artistry' rather than just being factory produced idols like almost every other group in the industry. "Its the way the world works" is like the worst argument to bring up, the girls actively raised their voices against HYBE who just like any other major label is money making corp and there's nothing wrong w it. If it was BTS, BP, Twice, Aespa, Itzy, Stray Kids or literally any other major group y'all would eat it up so quick. The anti-NJ agenda is seriously old like try to understand things from the artists perspectives. Also the 'other groups had it worse' argument is such bullshit like yea sure they did and they didn't do anything about, but what kinda justification is that to hate on the girls for wanting to not be trapped in a mismanagement cycle. Grow up seriously and stop glorifying corporations just cuz ur faves were produced by the same company.
A stupid person or a stupid behavior IS STUPID!!Why the ehll should We be scared or attackted for not playing along with this playdate and babysitting idols(in this case newjean??
Like yes, newjeans memebers talking on that live in yt and the speaking members just scream "A naive dumb " person!!
And please Hyein is the teenager and young one , 3/5 of them are LITERALL adults
Your word about newjeans are FACTS not an openion!!
Specially their parents ...!!
The way those parents were pbsessed with lessera is crazy like mhj took te trainees from source they were going bankrupt ofc they would rush the debit to get some check it is not like nwjns popularity is lower than lesserafim's
Exactly about MHJ!!!!
mhj did some serious lovebombing and unprofessional bonding to get the girls to start a live stream demanding that their true boss (HYBE) bring back the reason the company is going through this mess in the first place. The girls are skilled but they are not smart, they need to focus on studies and take a hiatus so a level-headed adult can explain why every other adult utterly failed them and the creeps of the industry will not have their best interests in mind either.
9:14 No, how? Everybody needs to grow up eventually. Especially the established and longer-lasting groups or artists. It's just about how they (and we) make it work.
Very true👌👏thanks for saying all this
My thoughts about Tzuyu: Tbh I barely see a Twice member as soloists (except for Nayeon, Jihyo and maybe Jeongyeon) because of them lack in something and for Tzuyu i always said that her stage presence is way too less for a soloist. In Twice, the other members kinda can compensate that but as a soloist it`s just her and i don`t think her stage presence is good enough for a soloist.
We can’t say that they weren’t mistreated because we haven’t heard or seen everything all the shade isn’t necessary until we have all the facts yeah it’s messy af but that’s still the case 🤷🏽♀️
Oooooo that “sue-you” pronunciation is killing me 😂
I recommend that you read my community post.
@@Rosiary oh I did! I didn’t mean it to be harsh towards you! I love this channel actually!
I didn't take any to heart. You're fine.
Min Heejin before stepping down as the ceo had a MONTH salary of arround 80 million dollars, she will be more than fine is she is fired completly from Hybe, the members of new jeans... i dont think so
It's funny because the same people who say that minors should not debut for their protection are the first to attack them and give their opinion as if they were morally superior.
Precisely those who say that are the first to attack minors
Thank you! This is why it makes me so angry when people compare New Jeans to Fifty Fifty. The Fifty Fifty members (the old line up) could have died because of all the dieting, the unhealthy less food or the medicine or surgeries they couldn`t do earlier because Attrakt say so. This is mistreatment. Not changing CEO because your old CEO is a creep. MIstreatment and mismanagement often goes together but not all the time and in New Jeans case it`s mismanagement (like you said) and not mistreatment. They get brand deals after brand deals. In what world is this mistreatment? These girls really don`t know how the world works and it shows.
i forgot to praise ur video on release i was busy :(
sorry u ate btw i fully agree with all opinions
Raising voice against Mistreatment not a mistake.
What mistreatment? Someone not saying hi to you is the only thing that they hang up to "prove" mistreatment. Sorry to break it to you but that is just life, people around you are not obliged to say hello and do not have to bend over backward for your every whims. MHJ has put other hybe's group in the bullseye of online bullies, you cannot expect them to greet you after that. Think about groups like omegaX or loona and then talk about mistreatment. I love the girls of NJ, but that was the dumbest move of the century and MHJ will not save them.
1+2. Can we please remember that only Minji was an adult when they debuted and she was bearly on the adult side.
All these girls met Min Hee Jin as children who wanted to become idols, Min Hee Jin had a strategy/concept to make them stand out and it worked so they are thankful for the success and since she was their CEO they are more likely to associate her with their success first, also I can’t say for sure but probably the fact that Min Hee Jin is well a woman also helped to build trust since society as a whole isn’t all open to calling women predators or creeps because world history, so the fact that Min Hee Jin is a woman probably helped in making them feel understood and safe compared to Hybe's chairman, I think, who's obviously a man, NewJeans most likely don't associate Min Hee Jin with anything bad and even if someone showed them proof they would most likely defend or ask Min Hee Jin if that was true, which she would naturally deny, plus didn’t Min Hee Jin write in one of those leaked messages that she likes how gullible teenagers are? I’m not that into this entire situation so if they were proven false I’m sorry but if they weren’t then that probably can give you an idea on how she talked with the girls.
The point is, please don’t blame NewJeans for everything that’s happening, the members are what, two years into their career? They don’t have that much experience working with different sorts of people yet, and most likely don’t really know any better, plus they knew Min Hee Jin for years, they trust her so it’s normal they are attached also even their parents seem to have some type of contact with Min Hee Jin, if the parents trust, so will the girls, I'm not saying that the parents are right for allowing their teenage daughters debut or not stopping them from doing whatever they do right now but parents are still usually people we trust the most. I’m not a bunny and only know few of NewJeans songs but still it’s unfair to the girls who were most likely manipulated in some way to do their actions.
4. Yes, I actually had a fight about this under a different video with some deffensive Once but I'll try to keep it short here, Tzuyu has what I call a 'focused-face' which basically means that she's so focused on dancing she forgets to change her expression, which is not easy (from my own experiance) but it's still upsettting considering all her years in the industry even in her mv she smiled maybe two times but again if she was never corrected it won't be easy for her to change it, but she's not the only one who has this 'focused-face' problem in Twice anyway. The song isn't really my cup of tea but it's not bad by any means.
5-10. Yes, just yes.
I get what you're saying but at the end of the day nwjns choose their path. If they're on the wrong path they will face consequences which is exactly what's happening. We all know both their parents and them are blinded by her manipulation tactic. And also that m@d woman needs to stop dragging nwjns into this mess made by herself, and also 👖 need to stop involving in this too. They actually don't know anything about real life consequences. It seems like they'll learn it the hard way which is unfortunate :(
@@Bloom_Jiya no, I get that, I don't live in a bubble, just some people forget that they are very young and got manipulated by Min Hee Jin, not that they just do it because they want to, I mean they did choose to do it themselves but it was because of the manipulation they experianced, okay I'm rammbling I'll stop writing-
@@zuza3377 I don't think they'll ever come out of the safe bubble created by MHJ. When they realise it will be too late by then. I hope they'll learn it soon though. It's hard seeing them suffer cuz of that woman.
@@Bloom_Jiya I hope too they have so much more to do, but realizing that they are manipulated will be a hard reality check they're not ready for :(
Exactly , they are treathing them bad and They still thinking like kids and They didnt know better😢
Completely agree about newjeans
NJ, MHJ, HYBE drama....This is not ending anytime soon, i fear
im just thinking this is why kpop companies should have some government funds for when their own idols decide to badly fuck it up for themselves, idgaf at this point cause kpop is becoming more and more immature due to the fact theyd rather have controllable puppets than serious artists or performers. But what an absolute waste of staffs time / attention to the members, an absolute waste of concepts that couldve had more thought put into it to make newjeans last longer than a scandal / law suit / controversy of their own doing and what a waste of hiring minors in general, ik some adult idols are none better but if u were hybe what age range would u pick to handle these types of situations? i dont think if they were adults that newjeans wouldve done this and id rather blame mhj cause the other ggs couldve existed peacefully if it werent for her so she and newjeans parents should pay compensation for the damage they inflicted and newjeans should go to therapy and rethink their options better next time. so much wasted time they couldve spent actually doing what they wanted to still under hybe and i bet there are 20 somethings who thought theyd debut in newjeans but didnt fit the requirements so got booted r laughing at this group in relief its not themselves
I can't be the only one thinking that the newjeans video is suspicious, like pls look at the start I know they were waiting for the fans to join but those looks on there faces something is not right I've seen these faces, that not happy nor confident nor determined faces, they looks in distresse like there looking around like some else is in the room, and the script, it look like it was giving to them plus the look on there faces they look like they were rethinking what they were about to say, I'm sorry but I'm not buying it they didn't look like they wanted to talk, they had that sad face that I have when I just got yelled at by my mom, artist are not guilty and I hope that this won't ruin there career, becuz the message didn't look like it came from them, and people are blind not to see that😢
Exactly, like MHJ was pointing a gun at them.
Also…Opinions on Yeonjun’s solo debut GGUM?….for me,I appreciate the fact that he himself helped in the production and that it was quite catchy…I really do wish more creativity was there…a bit underwhelming considering yeonjun’s talent and skill…
Definetly it sounds experimental tiktoky sound it is okay but excpected more
@@Jibywon The song was catchy,fun but a bit too trendy and repetitive for me…also I really appreciate that he helped with the production,but I think his voice could’ve been utilized better…it just doesnt feel like a proper solo debut song for someone like yeonjun esp with how underwhelming it is when you compare the hype for his solo debut compared to the actual product.
Yall really are insensible about those girls, yes that was not the way but they didnt know how to do it...adults failed them
I'm not denying that the adults failed them:
1. Their parents failed to prepared them for the real world.
2. Min Heejin manipulated and used them even went as far as to dragging them into her mess. I really cannot stand her.
3. Hybe's incompetence allowed this situation to be blown out of proportion and failed to deal with Min Heejin properly.
4. The other adults in the building failed to advice New Jeans to stay out of the fight and continue on their work.
I'm well aware how inexperienced they are but due to experience myself, no matter the age your actions will have consequences.
They have been failed by all so-called adults in this situation. It wasn't the best idea what they did but at least they tried to stand up for themselves I admire them for that at least both parties that are making so much money of them don't really care about them. I wish also that people would stop telling them to shut up! We have no idea what they are going through.
Another great video rosiary ❤️
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@@Army_stayy_slayyy heyyy
@@misssunnybae1074 hii. How are u? ❇️👋
I’m good but just so busy with school and Wbu
@@misssunnybae1074 same ! My schedule is ruined because of school 😭
MHJ wouldn't leave her position at SM without HYBE basically gifting her a music label. As well as, hand picking any trainees she wants. If HYPE really wanted to they could replace all the members in NJ with different girls, what would the current members do?
While I 100% agree with the hair color thing, I doubt idols actually _choose_ to change it all the time. At least not in the beginning, because I'm convinced Irene would stab someone if they made her bleach her hair again
Ik hybe wont bring mhj back but if they do i am definetly boycotting all hybe groups
To be fair, it's not like the groups have any control.
@@Rosiary ik but the idea of hybe doing that makes me disgusted i dont blame other groups tho
Kudos to your video im glad someone said it
Also one more biggest.thing you forgot fans controlling their artists
And also fantasticize about them. By that i meant bf hubby wives etx etc like common you fans wont get them ever lol
And also immense of hate if thry chose to support one group like duh whats with all hatred if you dont like it keep to yourself why start fanwars dumb and also toxic fans also plan twisted plan to hurt groups🙃🤦🏻♀️
Someone telling the truth
Hybe is trash no matter how u turn it idc
Both Hype and min heejin are both dumbass
7:44 You wanted feedback... Who? White writing on dominantly white video doesn't work. It's impossible to read. At least mention the name.'Su..., her...' Who?! I'm listening, but I don't know who you're talking about.
PS: Do you mean Tzuyu from Twice? I think I got it figured out!
PPS: Also, your headlines are shown a bit too short, impossible to read in the blink of an eye.
Hybe had the opportunity to jerk mhj's chain long ago...and they didn't. Bow at the corporate alter like a fool if you want, but there is such a thing as executive incompetence. This situation is ate up with it. You will pay for your out of control ego eventually...till then, its the do not recommend button for you
No one is bowing down to Hybe. But that will not change the fact that MHJ is not anymore the CEO . Moreover MHJ ≠ NewJeans. NewJeans can stand on their own so if you are a real bunny support NEwjeans not MHJ.
Yes there is such a thing as executive incompetence. NewJeans is not MHJ. So just learn that NewJeans will be totally fine without MHJ as long as they continue to release good music and improve their talent
NewJeans ≠ MHJ . So support NewJeans
NewJeans ≠ MHJ . So support NewJeans
Yes there is such a thing as executive incompetence. NewJeans is not MHJ. So just learn that NewJeans will be totally fine without MHJ as long as they continue to release good music and improve their talent
10:21 is this about riize Seunghan?
Lisa did dance break at last and would you talk about all the unnecessary hate she got especially from that fandom
They way you are hungry to Bragg about other fandom ..when locals themselves said this , even billboard too ..
Nothing new when your fav get hate then you put blame on other without proof ..but this time locals are hating her performance..( well iam not hating her performance it's good )
@@ONLYBTSPAVEDTHEWAY-ju8yi lol how do you know i was talking about your FANDOM when i didn't even took anyone name ??? That means I am correct you know it's your NIBBI FANDOM hating on her cause you all are bitter about her win . it's not local whole twitter and insta are filled with your fandom hate 'he deserves more'. 'seven was better ' blah blah then should have voted right???? This doesn't need proof everyone can see who is hating her
@@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestableeven if you are not talking about the specific fandom but you blame it to other whoever you actually said is to invite anyone to beg for more hate to lisa more
@@rosie-h1f idc when it's blink doing something it's all over internet you all bash us but when something happens to Blackpink specifically army do something to blackpink blink are still wrong to want to address that. We are not hating idols like them nor i am but these army are like cockroaches
@@Lalisa-manoBANGS-arestable because i have seen blinks are dragging us since yesterday..so i also thought you are also doing the same without proof well what I can accept from chapri nibbi fandom
You have bad information, the person who started the problem was Hybe by publishing a private audit, it was later that Meen Hee spoke at the press conference, but the person who initially took the bad steps was Hybe, after what happened he has been intimidating the staff and using coercion and he released information that only Sourse and Hybe had to the public, he told the parents that he would not use certain information and the next day he used it, the last thing is that they threatened the producer of etta and the issue turned out so badly that he is going to sue them for lying and manipulating, so? Who are the manipulators? The lady is not a saint but those from hybe are worse, who are the liars and manipulators?
whether you agree about it being publicized or not, the audit was about hybe, ador, and min hee jin. min hee jin inappropriately and unfairly brought the members of new jeans into it during her press conference instead of making any mention of them off limits everyone including herself.
@@Jess1013 The point is not that you agree, that audit was private and it was the one that started the problem, it was hybe who started the problem, the lady acted badly but those who started the problem were hybe, it is because of hybe that all this happened, and it was exposed How hybe is, how they wanted the lady to lie that she had created leserafim, how they proposed to illegally increase the sales or reproductions of ne jeans and she did not accept, so they were afraid of the lady who did not know lent to his lies? The lady is not a saint, but it is revealed that Hybe is a liar and manipulator, and what he has been doing since all this happened is using harassment, threats and coercion, so what is worse? The lady is not a saint but what Hybe has done is worse, at least the lady cares something nj even though she is not the best, but Hybe? From the beginning they did not take care of them and they even took out personal information and videos, so? Hybe is going to take care of them? Not because they are not interested, they were already going to send them on hiatus and they continued lying saying that they were going to find them a winning producer. gramys, and when they gave their options there was no gramys winner, they were just lying to maintain their image
but behind them they use lies and abuse
@@mss-w5eu good? Hybe only mentioned min heejin but heejin put new jeans, illit, le sseafim, two, riize, aespa, etc into this mess. It could've been solved privately and protecting all those groups image but she's made that shit press conference
@@mss-w5e Love how y'all keep using the rumors that Hybe was thinking about a hiatus as a gag when even if they did put them on... They can. It makes sense why
1. The media was gonna find out anyway that's why alot of times Hybe likes to beat the media by saying their stuff.
2. "He told the parents..." What is your evidence of this? In fact this whole second part is ridiculous
3. Keep all the context. They told the director SW that he cannot post the ETA behind the scenes in the future due to something in it being against APPLE. He wanted to be stubborn so they threaten him and he decided to delete his other channel videos and blast ADOR.
Bad take after bad take
Y'all are weird! The New Geans didn't commit a crime, you know that, right?? Your reaction is extreme, so what if they want their boss back and they say it publicly. I just seems like a bad decision not an irreversible crime, Y'all reaction is super weird and extreme
@@MonMonAg-95 yeah newjeans didn't commit crimes, but their former CEO min heejin did, which is why an audit was launched by hybe back in April of this year and why she was asked to resign from her position as ceo😭😭
Min heejin not only did this, but ontop of it defamed other groups, was caught bad mouthing the newjeans members on her work laptop (called them idiots, b*tches, fat pigs) and recently trying to cover up an SA case. She was also generally unprofessional in a the corporate setting and misconducted herself.
It most likely seems that the 5 members are genuinely unaware of the severity of what min heejin did, like misappropriation of trade secrets, leaking confidential internal info and attempting a company takeover. Not to mention how they made false claims in their live stream, like saying they own copyrights to their music. 💀💀
@yurimius y'all are still way too involved. Like you don't know them. You could just stop listening to their music and ignore them but you don't. You continue to fill your time up with following them and obsessing over what they are doing. It's weird
@@MonMonAg-95chill out
2:10 In a twisted and unusual way, let's hope Hybe owns their songs, brand, name, everything. They are very respectful of their artists and might've given NJ rights that were not deserved. They rightfully always credit everybody for every little thing. Then what?
I really hope their producer wins. This was misogyny.
@Rosiary Is it possible to have time stamps on the videos? 🥹
Yeah I got tired everytime I upload videos so I left it out. I used to do it on my old channel as well as adding captions but I'm burnt out.
@@Rosiary all good 👍🏻
I thought it couldn't get worse after the embarrassing live and the NA appearance. I was dead wrong.
A little stream by two of the girls laughing about what amounts to fooling the NA with the tears and lies...wow.
Not really wise to do that, making fun of a governmental body...they tend to be a bit testy about that....