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  • @sonnycarver5339
    @sonnycarver5339 9 месяцев назад +20

    Want to hear something wild? Sandra McCracken, his ex-wife, you know the one he cheated on, won a dove award that night. It was her first I believe.

    • @kristalsea
      @kristalsea 9 месяцев назад +1

      All makes sense now

    • @alivingstone4Him
      @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +4

      No she didn't. I just went to the Dove website and she is not listed any where as a winner of any award.The Dove awards are a joke. Not of God at all. Contemporary Christian music is an industry with big money for the singers and the ones that own them.

    • @sonnycarver5339
      @sonnycarver5339 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@alivingstone4Him she in fact, did win. It was for the country blue grass roots category. I just looked at it.

    • @alivingstone4Him
      @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@sonnycarver5339 - oh ok I missed that! Ty.

    • @sonnycarver5339
      @sonnycarver5339 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@alivingstone4Him no worries. I agree with you on a lot of what you said, though about the industry.

  • @RosemarieBiddiscombe68
    @RosemarieBiddiscombe68 7 месяцев назад +3

    So Awesome! Thank you for speaking the truth!

  • @sherrimartin4775
    @sherrimartin4775 9 месяцев назад +5

    Truth!! So refreshing!! If Christians poo poo this topic and don't tell these people the truth, that their headed for hell for eternity, that's on us. If we speak the truth and tell them their headed for hell and they ignore it, that's on them. We move on to the next person who is willing to listen.

  • @shineon2595
    @shineon2595 9 месяцев назад +6

    Why didn't "Christian artists" walk out?

  • @Getup7131
    @Getup7131 3 месяца назад

    He has always been that way and he has always been proud of it. His arrogance will come back to haunt him as it always does

  • @martinone9
    @martinone9 9 месяцев назад +1

    Derek Webb went from being a member of one of the biggest bands in christian music to playing house shows with a drag queen. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @brandrich
    @brandrich 10 месяцев назад +18

    You’re deluded if you think that the Dove awards is about holiness and not about making money. They do not care it is about selling albums like any other music show.
    It’s ridiculous and most of these “artists” wouldn’t make it anywhere else.

    • @alivingstone4Him
      @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +2

      Amen ! This whole thing is an industry and just like the world and their awards. And yes -- "artist" thats all they are. God is looking for worshippers who will worship him in Sprit and in truth as King Jesus said in John 4 ! Praise You Lord Jesus !

    • @margaretjones7954
      @margaretjones7954 9 месяцев назад +1

      I don't care anything about hearing this. You've only given him a platform for evilness. Yes he should have been turned away but the Dove Awards didn't care. Thrh r not a Christian program. Its strictly entertainment. I've already heard about alcohol being provided at the Dove Awards and even the music performers were drinking backstage. I think about as much of the Dove awards programming as I do for this guy who is not right. Anyone who brags about their great legs and thinks its cool to wear a dress and he's a man something evil and messed up about him. The world has gone nuts

  • @jenniferrhoades8956
    @jenniferrhoades8956 9 месяцев назад +6

    But the WORST thing about Derek's stunt and pompous statements? Where was God in this? Derek blathers inanities that only sound profound to other people buzzing loud to drown out their conscience, but he's not even an immature Christian. He's just a brat. You're right--he does just want to be liked and he's made an idol of approval. What God thinks comes first. I just want to cry because he is spitting into Jesus' face by basically stating that holiness means nothing and rendering the cross as a joke. Just sad. So very, very sad.

  • @lindsaypace5077
    @lindsaypace5077 5 месяцев назад

    I thoroughly enjoy this podcast and find it very edify. It’s nice to hear a Christian interact with culture and speak truth. I actually ran into him at church. Small world.

    • @IndieThinker
      @IndieThinker  5 месяцев назад

      Great to see you. Thanks for commenting and watching.

  • @user-zq5jk5xm4z
    @user-zq5jk5xm4z 10 месяцев назад +19

    All true Christian Artists should remove themselves from the Dove Awards and let them crumble if they are going to accept this sick behavior.

    • @alivingstone4Him
      @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +1

      the word "artist" is a giveaway. God is looking for worshippers who worship him in spirit and in truth. The dove awards are worldly. Imagine winning an award for best singer. Give me a break. God is not impressed !

  • @sojourner8567
    @sojourner8567 9 месяцев назад +6

    Never knew who he was to begin with. Sounds like everyone forgot about him and he’s conjured up this schtick to gain attention. Incredibly sad what people will do for the attention of others. For anyone who thinks this man’s performances are being done as an ally please think again. This is someone desperate for attention and will even use a “cause” to get it.

    • @missbeehaven2023
      @missbeehaven2023 9 месяцев назад

      So he pulled a Sam Smith. Ok. 🤣🤣😰😰😰

  • @stephthinks3109
    @stephthinks3109 10 месяцев назад +9

    Great video and commentary 👌

  • @cherylyp-yz2cd
    @cherylyp-yz2cd 9 месяцев назад +2

    So very true, & so well articulated! 🙏❤

  • @bobbiejoyce1402
    @bobbiejoyce1402 9 месяцев назад +4

    Well said. 🙏❤

  • @ashleycarter233
    @ashleycarter233 10 месяцев назад +10

    Amen, very well said 👏

  • @jimmock1155
    @jimmock1155 9 месяцев назад +1

    I care. You not only get my like, you get my subscription.

  • @Brutuscomedy
    @Brutuscomedy 10 месяцев назад +1

    "A New Law"
    great song and video on RUclips

  • @graysonbr
    @graysonbr 9 месяцев назад +1

    Derek, needs to enter a rehab and deal with his alcoholism. He released a song a couple of years ago about a praise to alcohol. Let me post the lyrics:
    "Help me to forget
    all of my regret
    i know you’re strong enough to do the job
    you go by many names
    forever stay the same
    your promises i claim
    you’re all i’ve got
    we gather here because we know
    there’s nowhere else that we can go
    where we can be really free
    so we raise our voice
    we raise an offering
    would you come near
    and quench our thirst
    oh, lift our hearts
    as the spirit bears the curse
    oh, we depend on you
    we know that you’ll come through
    we feel it instantly when you move
    it’s more than chemistry
    more than community
    you enter into me
    you’re in my veins
    you bear the weight of all our grief
    uncertainty and unbelief
    oh, you restore our sanity
    so we raise our voice
    we raise an offering
    would you come near
    and quench our thirst
    oh, lift our hearts
    as the spirit bears the curse
    now my knees are weak
    my speech is slurred
    oh, the things you shake
    oh, the things you stir
    i am calling out the only name
    that delivers me from my guilt and shame
    oh, alcohol
    alcohol
    oh, alcohol
    we raise our voices for alcohol
    alcohol
    an offering for alcohol
    alcohol"
    So he is making alcohol a god. There is a reason why Paul stated to not be drunk with wine but instead be filled with the Holy Spirit.

  • @jackjoseph9908
    @jackjoseph9908 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well said

  • @vickieadams6648
    @vickieadams6648 9 месяцев назад

    Great points Indie!! Right on point.

  • @holyspiritinspired7211
    @holyspiritinspired7211 9 месяцев назад +2

    WOW. I am truly impressed with your non-biased commentary. WOW.

    • @gerraywest
      @gerraywest 9 месяцев назад

      My sentiments exactly…the pomposity is vomit inducing.

    • @davidhayes3492
      @davidhayes3492 6 месяцев назад

      Truth is truth. It's not biased.

  • @pissed-off-red-pilled
    @pissed-off-red-pilled 9 месяцев назад

    The camel has his nose in the tent. Then it's the head and next the body. Don't be lukewarm and allow the devil to infiltrate your heart and mind.

  • @themascaramaven6746
    @themascaramaven6746 10 месяцев назад +7

    I’m glad other people honestly are starting to see the darkness in Christian music. I knew he was married to the lead singer from I AM THEY. And finally, he was able to pull her away from that band and I believe, in Christ too. But more and more, we are seeing these CCM artists, simply using the gift God gave them to recognize themselves, not glorify HIM.

    • @jenniferrhoades8956
      @jenniferrhoades8956 9 месяцев назад +1

      Derek seem to really go off the rails when he had an affair on his first wife, Sandra McCracken. Sandra is still a committed believer so she's better off without him. CCM industry is just an industry. It may have once held some standards but I think the pretense has dropped. You have to use your own discernment and do a lot of separating the message from the messenger.

    • @alivingstone4Him
      @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +1

      Amen! This is all about self. God is not impressed with their awards!

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 9 месяцев назад +2

      The concept of awards for Christian music is wrong, not a blessing, praising the music instead God.
      The Bible knows only one way to treat weird events. Shaking the dust from the shoes and left them alone.

  • @tenngirl4trump
    @tenngirl4trump 9 месяцев назад

    Since when did God approve of this craziness? Yeah... he didn't!!!

  • @worshipgoddias9049
    @worshipgoddias9049 9 месяцев назад +2

    Obviously he is fooling himself!

  • @joyseyboldt7334
    @joyseyboldt7334 3 месяца назад

    They allowed the dark in, once in...its over. Weakness when standing for God dulls the shine of Gods light....and everyone that welcomed this little demon helped.

  • @Getup7131
    @Getup7131 3 месяца назад

    Well said sir

  • @pedropatrick7139
    @pedropatrick7139 9 месяцев назад +1

    Bravo!!! You hit the nail right on the head, bravo, love it and God bless you!

  • @Scotty-Z70
    @Scotty-Z70 9 месяцев назад

    2:00 "as a sis straight white man"...yeah...i don't believe you.

  • @petersebastion7596
    @petersebastion7596 7 месяцев назад

    Not so sure God is pleased with giving awards at who praises Him the best in the first place.

  • @aurorahdale1306
    @aurorahdale1306 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for that. You can't blame the whole body for the wrongs of a few members. Unfortunately that happened with my aunt. She was a Christian and had a business with another Christian, but something happened between them and totally turned her against Christianity. To the point of turning to Judaism. It's sad because she passed away a few years ago from colon cancer. I pray she worked things out with God by the end.
    God bless you

  • @donmcc6573
    @donmcc6573 9 месяцев назад

    What if a trans person tried to visit your church on Sunday? Would you turn them away?

  • @KRashad
    @KRashad 9 месяцев назад +3

    “We are too nice! We are too tolerant! We are too anxious to be popular! We are too quick to make excuses for sin in its many forms! If I could stir Christians around me to love God and hate sin, even to the point of being a bit of a nuisance, I would re-joice. If some Christian were to call me for counsel saying he or she is being persecuted for Jesus' sake, I would say with feeling,
    "Thank God!"” -A.W. Tozer

  • @sarawinardi6745
    @sarawinardi6745 9 месяцев назад +1

    When people do that, I now wonder what is the difference between you and the world? They are just using Jesus as a cover

  • @marilyncannon6108
    @marilyncannon6108 9 месяцев назад

    That guy is disturbing. That is so disrespectful to God

  • @jars7774
    @jars7774 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wolf in women’s clothes.

  • @alivingstone4Him
    @alivingstone4Him 9 месяцев назад +4

    Love it ! You are right on with this. Good stuff. As far as the Dove awards - it is not of the LORD so its no wonder they were allowed in after all Derek Webb is part of it. This is an industry and the 'christian' music industry is big big money ! It is no different than the world ! God bless !!

  • @JamesCencebaugh
    @JamesCencebaugh 9 месяцев назад

    💯 mic drop!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 9 месяцев назад +1

    Dove is a word, that sounds like the German word for stupid "doof".

  • @teshahawkins4822
    @teshahawkins4822 9 месяцев назад

    JESUS LUVS!!!BE BLESSED!!!❤❤❤!!!

  • @Klemmytime
    @Klemmytime 10 месяцев назад +4

    Done to get attention….for what? Sad.

    • @IndieThinker
      @IndieThinker  10 месяцев назад +4

      That’s actually a really good question. What is it within the heart of every man that craves attention? We were created to be noticed by God and if we don’t really know Him, we have a huge hole in our heart and people will go to desperate lengths to fill it.

  • @donmcc6573
    @donmcc6573 9 месяцев назад

    Does this sound familiar? 10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
    11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

    • @jars7774
      @jars7774 9 месяцев назад +1

      He did because he was concerned about their salvation. But he didn’t wear women’s clothes or got drunk with them.

    • @donmcc6573
      @donmcc6573 9 месяцев назад

      @@jars7774 And none of the artists who performed onstage wore women's clothes, except for the women, or got drunk either. The trans people were just three people in the audience.

  • @racheljumpingwaterdeer9179
    @racheljumpingwaterdeer9179 7 месяцев назад

    Christian’s: Judge, Jury and Executioner. So pious. And cliquish. Get the beam out of your own eye first. Then go love the brother.

  • @pjbostic
    @pjbostic 9 месяцев назад +1

    LGBTQAI+CCM?

  • @stevenfisher4547
    @stevenfisher4547 3 месяца назад

    No hate like Christian love

    • @IndieThinker
      @IndieThinker  3 месяца назад

      Calling disagreement hate is dishonest.

    • @stevenfisher4547
      @stevenfisher4547 3 месяца назад

      @@IndieThinkersounded more like an attack on Derek than a disagreement. But go in peace my brother

  • @ruthwhite199
    @ruthwhite199 9 месяцев назад

    People are at the Dove Awards to praise God 🙌 shame on you, remember God is watching you 🙏

  • @worshipgoddias9049
    @worshipgoddias9049 9 месяцев назад

    😂

  • @godsnotdead5279
    @godsnotdead5279 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for speaking the truth! You said what needed to be said for all of us! All that’s left is for Christians to remember is Acts 5:29, we must obey God rather than man, and John 12:43, for they seek the praise of men more than the praise of God. When we do that, we love the world, not God, which Jesus warns us about!

  • @markhagen1329
    @markhagen1329 10 месяцев назад +2

    Who cares? Why do you care? Your single-digit "likes" indicate no one else cares either.

    • @IndieThinker
      @IndieThinker  10 месяцев назад +9

      Love it. You take the time to comment on a clip that you believe is not worth your time. See the problem? Also, why do you care is not a response it’s an intellectual retreat.

    • @TannerTracks
      @TannerTracks 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@IndieThinkerpay no attention to the haters. Great video Sir. Derek Webb did a solo concert at our church years ago and everyone sensed a weird and dark spirit about the guy. Things were definitely off.

    • @wampuscat1340
      @wampuscat1340 10 месяцев назад +3

      And, yet, here you are. The world values likes. Those who abide in Him value truth.

    • @user-zq5jk5xm4z
      @user-zq5jk5xm4z 10 месяцев назад +3

      I beg to differ. More care than you realize. This will bite the dove awards. Hopefully they will not have enough support from true Christian artists to have a show next year

    • @jenniferrhoades8956
      @jenniferrhoades8956 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@TannerTracks I saw him in 2006 doing a rooftop concert sponsored by a church in Durham. He seemed to be doing okay then. But I bought Stockholm Syndrome album and knew that this guy had lost his moorings. You stated it well---a weird and dark spirit about him. I guess all we can do is pray for him. God is infinitely capable!

  • @Utubepgs
    @Utubepgs 7 месяцев назад

    Sick !! Sad !!