Answering YOUR Questions on the Me 262

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @MilitaryAviationHistory
    @MilitaryAviationHistory  4 года назад +65

    Just to be clear, if you have a question on a plane I feature on Inside The Cockpit, post the question *on that video* and *not here* . I will only go through the original video for questions.

    • @krzysztofbroda5376
      @krzysztofbroda5376 4 года назад +2

      Is there a place we can post our other questions?

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  4 года назад +2

      Comment section of the relevant Inside The Cockpit

    • @knutdergroe9757
      @knutdergroe9757 4 года назад

      Do I need to ship some good bourbon ?
      To keep Bernard from having a discussion with you about Deutsch.......

    • @vipertwenty249
      @vipertwenty249 4 года назад +5

      Of course there's always one question that doesn't have a relevant Inside the Cockpit, and here it is: If I recall correctly I think you were learning to fly - if so how's that going? Many thanks for so many excellent videos. I've worked with traditional media on historical programs several times and they always struck me as having the attention span of the average 7 year old and the assumption that their audience is the same. Better your way.

    • @gravijta936
      @gravijta936 4 года назад

      I have a question?
      ;-)

  • @pauldulworth2768
    @pauldulworth2768 4 года назад +89

    I’ve been studying WWII aviation since I was 5 years old and learned to read looking at my older brother’s aviation books. I’m 53 now. I’ve learned more about the ME262 in one of your videos than I ever learned before. The more I learn the more I realize I’ve got a lot to learn. Thank you from a new subscriber.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  4 года назад +18

      Cheers Paul

    • @ApokalyptikNM
      @ApokalyptikNM 3 года назад +1

      I got interested in world war planes when I was about 10 my parents had a newspaper of pearl harbor and 2 P-40 models and A6M2 zeros
      During these times are quite hard because I barely have any cash and would like to get a lot of books around world war 1 and 2 history

  • @barryjobe
    @barryjobe 4 года назад +48

    You're right about television making programs like yours. I was the on-camera historian for nine (mostly Modern Marvels) programs on the History Channel, and for five of those I was also screen-credited as the behind-the-scenes historian. On one, Engineering Disasters: The Sherman Tank, I reviewed the rough-cut footage for historical accuracy. One brief scene, when the voice-over was talking about M-4 Shermans being shipped to the front, they actually used footage showing Panzer III tanks on German rail cars. I pointed this (and many other factual errors) out, but no changes were made. Budgets were the excuse. On another program (WW-I Tech), the production company's studios were maxed out, so I literally shot the program (my on-camera part of it), in what had been a storage closet. Drape a bit of camo netting over some boxes and it actually looked a bit like trench warfare. However, the Frezzi TV lights were so hot, this tiny room with no ventilation was over 100 degrees - and there I sat in a coat and tie. Aargh. My point - having been involved with the History Channel for more than a decade, I came to realize that they'd never produce the kind of in-depth coverage found on your programs (and other experts' programs, too). They needed a fast-paced MTV-like production (heavily influenced by reality TV) rather than an in-depth exploration of a battle or a type of military equipment.

    • @Ypog_UA
      @Ypog_UA 4 года назад +2

      M4 Sherman had a .50 cal to defend against UFO fire

    • @moss8448
      @moss8448 3 года назад +1

      that's show biz

  • @iflycentral
    @iflycentral 4 года назад +117

    " or what passes for German in Austria." You got an audible laugh out of me with that one. :D

    • @davidkachonik1885
      @davidkachonik1885 4 года назад +6

      It was the sly wink that got me!

    • @barryjobe
      @barryjobe 4 года назад +5

      Me, too - what a hoot. I get the same kind of "stuff" (having grown up and lived in the American deep South for a big chunk of my life) when I turn my Georgia accent back on. It sounds vaguely like English, but only vaguely.

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 4 года назад

      I guess that is a result of annexing Bohemia back in 1526, however lawful it was. :-D

    • @Rapinasimplicis
      @Rapinasimplicis 4 года назад

      That got me laughing, the wink got me crying. But makes me wonder where the hell Bismarck is from anyway?

    • @thomaslockard9686
      @thomaslockard9686 4 года назад

      speak konstiedeutch and confuse everyone

  • @mrmattcoombs
    @mrmattcoombs 4 года назад +23

    Re: the question about wire colour coding. Most wiring on aircraft is just one colour and the wires are identified by a wire ID. Essentially there is a greater number of wires required on an aircraft than there is the number of colours available to safely ID the wires. On modern aircraft almost all the wires are white and a number is laser printed onto the wire at set intervals. Wire IDs can also be tags at either end of the run and along it's length, heat shrink sleeves, etc. Dennis Ejstrup has already answered this, but I thought I'd elaborate a bit more. Thanks for the channel, great as always.

    • @saker6121
      @saker6121 4 года назад

      I was about to post the same thing, more modern aircraft wiring is white.

    • @alexanderrswaim5142
      @alexanderrswaim5142 4 года назад

      For what it’s worth, the British rigid airship R.80, designed by Barnes Wallis, was the first aircraft to have color-coded electrical wires (also control cables and tubing for liquids).

    • @wormhole331
      @wormhole331 4 года назад

      I'm a subscriber to Kermit Weeks channel (fantasy of flight) and he's mentioned that he purchased an original machine that marks wires for his restorations so they can be original as possible. But he's never showed it that I know of.

    • @moss8448
      @moss8448 3 года назад

      imagine how many got hooked up wrong being far sighted

    • @kimeldiin1930
      @kimeldiin1930 2 года назад

      Exactly , only with latter times data buses there has been variations on the theeme of whiteness....

  • @josephstabile9154
    @josephstabile9154 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much for this "in the cockpit" presentation with follow-up. Excellent!
    I had to laugh, though, with the criticism of your German pronunciation. I, an American with a Hamburg-born mother, well remember a heated discussion with a man from Wuppertal, who insisted Hamburg should not be pronounced with a hard "g", but sounding like "Hamboursch". I finally had to say to him he should dial the Hamburg telephone operator, and he will be shocked to hear a hard "g" pronunciation. There is, after all, such a thing as a regional dialect. Where I live, "forty" is usually pronounced "farty".

    • @NM-wd7kx
      @NM-wd7kx 9 месяцев назад

      I'm English, I moved maybe 50 miles South, all of the pronunciations have shifted

  • @cesarvidelac
    @cesarvidelac 4 года назад +19

    Regarding you making your videos in English, I am chilean, unfortunately I don't speak German and I am grateful you make this in English so you are right, you get a much wider audience in English. My best regards from Chile.

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 4 года назад +1

      A hundred years ago French was the standard language for international communication. With the internet, it has become English. In Japan, ALL students study English. So, yeah, sorry for the lack of consistency, pathological spellings, articles, and unique verb conjugation.

    • @drudgenemo7030
      @drudgenemo7030 4 года назад +1

      @@princeofcupspoc9073 lol
      You mean English has almost as many exceptions as standard pronunciations?
      Yeah I'm a native speaker and my hats off to those that achieve any level of competence with English.
      Far better than the smattering of Spanish i can grunt out
      The only german i know is a few expletives.

    • @MrBikeagraman
      @MrBikeagraman 4 года назад +2

      @solnegrolunaroja I agree with you. If this channel was done German, I would not have watched it. My knowledge of aviation history has expanded because this channel. So I am very glad all the content on the channel are done in English, and it's done in American English. :-)

  • @anthonyanderson5302
    @anthonyanderson5302 4 года назад +35

    "Or what passes for german in Austria" shots fired! LOL Love the channel keep up the awesome content

  • @pieterreynders5607
    @pieterreynders5607 4 года назад +8

    When you are able to travel again, please visit the only Me 262 B twin cockpit night-fighter in the South-African National War Museum. Loving your work!

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 4 года назад +3

    To have English as a 4th language is very impressive. Ignore the haters, thank you for doing your videos in the "language of commerce".

  • @momotheelder7124
    @momotheelder7124 4 года назад +11

    On the question of ''would it be better to just produce more piston engined fighters'' Adolf Galland said (paraphrasing) ''I would rather have one Me-262 than 3 Me-109s, probably even 5 Me-109s''. The reality is that as the Air superiority of the allies increased, something drastic was needed to penetrate the enormous fighter screen to get to the bombers, and that wouldn't happen even with a few additional doras. If you look at air combat in 1945 only the Me-262 had a measure of success against heavy bombers at this point. Piston fighters were switched to mid altitude fighter sweeps and fighter bomber missions for the most part.

  • @misterd3979
    @misterd3979 4 года назад +22

    The one resource Germany had the most difficulty with in the time of the ME262 was pilots to fly them.

    • @princeofcupspoc9073
      @princeofcupspoc9073 4 года назад +4

      Yep. The same with trained crews for their Panthers and Tigers.

    • @tomi9562
      @tomi9562 3 года назад

      Imagine ME262 in ww1😳

  • @arminiusschild5260
    @arminiusschild5260 4 года назад +32

    It's not that the Germans believed they shot down a Mosquito, it's the fact that they intercepted the de Havilland that was important. It showed that they had an aircraft that could easily bring the previously difficult to fight aircraft to combat at their will. It not only improved the morale of the Luftwaffe but also shook the confidence of the Mosquito crews.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 4 года назад +4

      The Mosquito was destroyed, whether it augered into ground in flames behind enemy lines or crashed near it's home field is entirely inconsequential.
      Luftwaffe Me-262 pilots shot down many Mosquitos. The performance of the German jets was a revolutionary leap that rendered all propeller driven fighter aircraft obsolete.

    • @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
      @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 3 года назад +1

      It only lost an entrance door, it would have been repaired overnight.

    • @jonnyj.
      @jonnyj. 3 года назад

      @@sandervanderkammen9230 Did you COMPLETELY ignore the op's point...? The germans could never catch the mosquito, and they have always envied that the british could build such a fast aircraft at low altitude. Goering HIMSELF famously lectured the german aviation companies on how brilliant the mosquito was, if that will tell you anything.
      And like the dude above me said, the mosquito was barely damaged. It literally landed back at its airfield. "Inconsequential" my fucking ass.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 3 года назад +2

      @@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 until it crashed on landing... something about shell damaging the fuselage structure..

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 3 года назад +2

      @@jonnyj. Sorry Johnny, of the 85 RAF aircraft shot down by the Messerschmitt Me-262 most of them were Mosquitos.
      The Me-262s cruising speed was faster than the Mosquito's top speed with WEP...
      With more than a 100mph speed advantage the 262 made quick work of the fragile balsa wood skee-tow.

  • @danieljennerman7549
    @danieljennerman7549 4 года назад +14

    A reply to the wiring color question. On most US aircraft, the majority of the wiring has white insulation. Identification is done with alphanumeric codes either printed at intervals on the insulation or on heat shrink sleeves on replacement wiring. I don't know if this was the case in WW2 for the Germans, but it is a possibility.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 4 года назад +1

      Perhaps it is similar as the generally the wires are made with hardened yellow plastic and spaced codes....

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 4 года назад

      The white coating is a very special plastic for high temp applications, also when it does burn the fumes it gives off are not as toxic. This is very important in the case of an engine fire.

  • @luisgimenez8660
    @luisgimenez8660 4 года назад +19

    At that time, for Germany was more efficient to use the jet engines, because from coal; they can produce larger amount of kerosene than gasoline.

    • @MultiZirkon
      @MultiZirkon 4 года назад

      Luis: I believe you are absolutely right. Partially as a chemist, and partially because I have seen similar, detailed reasoning regarding american jet fuel in Korea or Vietnam. -- But do you have a source or two, with regards to those who may regard (or believe) jet fuel as "high-tec" compared only "piston-engine" fuel?

    • @IrishCarney
      @IrishCarney 4 года назад +1

      And when you refine petroleum you get both kerosene and gasoline, so the kerosene doesn't compete with or reduce gasoline availability. In fact in the infancy of the oil industry, which revolved around selling kerosene for lamp oil, gasoline was at first an unwanted waste product of kerosene production that nobody knew what to do with and it was just dumped in rivers.

  • @johnleake5657
    @johnleake5657 Год назад +1

    _"I'm speaking in a foreign language so English is my third language essentially-actually my fourth language by [order] of learning but my second probably in terms of proficiency-and if I talk in English and then suddenly have to use German words sometimes that's gets a little bit complicated, so if I mispronounce a German word even though I'm German when I'm making commentary in English, that's just how it's going to be."_
    Very well said! It's always a tricky issue to swap languages in mid-stream, and choosing a pronunciation system is to choose between ease of for a particular audience and difficulty for another. I'm not a modern military historian, but as an ancient historian I find the same problem (except classical names are even more varied between different fisrt languages -chicherone in Italian, tsitsero in German, sisero in English and siseron in French for kikero(nis), for example.)

  • @galgenvogel1871
    @galgenvogel1871 4 года назад +36

    Nice slip of tounge at 20:00 : until 1921 or 1922 :D
    Regardless that was a very nice addition to the normal videos

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  4 года назад +18

      Hah, didn't even realize. It's 2021 or 2022 if someone is wondering...

    • @krzysztofbroda5376
      @krzysztofbroda5376 4 года назад +11

      @@MilitaryAviationHistory Or is it? *puts on a tinfoil hat*

    • @darriusdias
      @darriusdias 4 года назад

      Maybe he's so far back in history he was referencing the Spanish Flu? 🤔

    • @something7239
      @something7239 4 года назад +2

      I'm really looking forward for 1921.

  • @mikemontgomery2654
    @mikemontgomery2654 4 года назад +2

    I also want to add: thank you for doing videos in English. I wouldn’t have learned many finer details about certain airplanes without you doing these in-depth videos. Keep up the great work.... once you’re able to.

  • @robertthecag1230
    @robertthecag1230 4 года назад +7

    Your answer on making more 109's or 262's. No matter which is picked, could they come up with the pilots to fly them? I don't think so.

  • @TheRAFlemingsMr
    @TheRAFlemingsMr 4 года назад +1

    As a 1 man army, you do a fantastic job! Keep it up, love your channel.

  • @tycorcoran6965
    @tycorcoran6965 4 года назад +20

    I'm not sure I'll be around, this lockdown has me drinking so much I could float a super carrier

  • @gizmophoto3577
    @gizmophoto3577 4 года назад

    I take altogether too much pleasure in recognizing several books on your shelf from my own library. I am sure I could spend many pleasant hours browsing your collection. I am sure I am not alone in appreciating your decision to use English in your videos, and I am grateful to have people like you and Bernard sharing your vast knowledge from the other side of the fence, as it were. Thank you for the excellent content. Be well, Bismarck!

  • @mateuszg9866
    @mateuszg9866 4 года назад +18

    Who's waiting for pt.3 Fw 190 video from Greg? ;)

    • @WarblesOnALot
      @WarblesOnALot 4 года назад

      G'day,
      Yay Team !
      Yes, indeed...; but he's still assembling a new 4-Chimney Furnace for his Fiat Fire-Chariot..., last time I peeked...(!).
      If ye be partial to getting deeplyDeeplyDEEPLY into famous Fightatious Hairygoplanes (?) ; then so far I've posted 5 Videos in what I thunk might be a 7-part series on Sopwith Camel-ology.
      If ye might perhaps possibly care to while away about 4 hours, wallowing in Camel Lore, then please feel free to backtrack me into my Videos - about 3 weeks, to find the start of the Project...
      Such is Life,
      Have a good one...
      Stay safe.
      ;-p
      Ciao !

  • @bobsyoruncle4583
    @bobsyoruncle4583 4 года назад +4

    Your videos are very German - by that I mean very thorough, detailed, well researched and well-engineered :) . But I follow you also because I know what a great comedian you are - I've seen them many times but I still get lots of laughs watching your IL2 videos with Bo and the TBLF crew. These have to be the funniest IL2 videos on RUclips. Keep up the good work soldier.

  • @Northcountry1926
    @Northcountry1926 4 года назад +1

    Excellent Video Sir, Careful with the ear infection ... had one & it still is a concern ! U have a Great Approach & insights - Danke

  • @markcantemail8018
    @markcantemail8018 4 года назад

    Thank you for being thoughtful and making a Video to keep us Busy . Stay healthy .

  • @PaddyPatrone
    @PaddyPatrone 4 года назад +1

    Wieder ein tolles Video. Haufenweise Infos, super!

  • @MrWarwick15
    @MrWarwick15 4 года назад +11

    Chris, I've just discovered your channel and wanted to thank you for your excellent content. The Schwalbe is one of my favourite planes too. It's nice to have quality content to watch in these trying times! Take care.
    Rich.
    Ps. Your English is excellent. I'm an Englishman living in France (15 years) and, my French is far worse than your English!

  • @lorisguerrero4404
    @lorisguerrero4404 4 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot for your amazing content, I'm french and I enjoy a lot watching your videos !
    Greetings from France !

  • @andrewpinner3181
    @andrewpinner3181 4 года назад

    Good stuff Chris, as always & much appreciated !

  • @mikelain13
    @mikelain13 4 года назад

    Another great video, thank you. Nothing but positive vibes from me! Some of those questions/ statements were nasty, answered with class and respect.

  • @ziggy2shus624
    @ziggy2shus624 4 года назад +5

    Germany had the chance to develop a high altitude fighter in 1940 or early 1941. With the FW-190 in production, Kurt Tank went to the head of aircraft development Ernst Udet and asked for funding to build a high altitude fighter to combat the turbocharged bombers that the US was building. The Fw-190 was a low altitude fighter and the ME-109 was very small with limited firepower. Kurt Tank was so stunned by the lack of knowledge by Udet of the high altitude bombers being produced, that he simply left the room.
    In 1944 Tank developed the Fw-190D Longnose which was a high altitude fight equal to the P-51 but it was too late. The 190D could have been in the air in 1942.
    An interesting note: Erhard Milch, who was in charge of aircraft production after Udet commited suicide, was Jewish.

    • @MultiZirkon
      @MultiZirkon 4 года назад

      I guess I have felt like Kurt Tank in Udet's some times... :-(

    • @jkeener3323
      @jkeener3323 4 года назад

      @Call Me Ishmael The worst thing Germany could have done is prolong the war by six months. We would have made Hamburg as famous as Hiroshima.

    • @threadworm437
      @threadworm437 4 года назад +1

      Bf 109 H-0 was also extremely strong at altitude but wasn't built in very large numbers

    • @jonathangriffiths2499
      @jonathangriffiths2499 3 года назад

      @@jkeener3323 this is a key point . What the Nazis would have done in 1946 is irreverent. The war in Europe was going to end on the the late summer of 45 with atomic bombardment of Berlin .

  • @rmcguire7033
    @rmcguire7033 4 года назад

    I love you Man, better videos I have never seen. Carry on the Good Work

  • @fredferd965
    @fredferd965 4 года назад +2

    The Germans had difficulties with several hard to get metals. One of the most important was Tungsten. Consider the incredible German Gerlich Squeeze Bore (also called taper bore) anti-tank weapons. One was the Mauser 2.8cm sPzB41, and the other was the Krupp 7.5cm Pak 41. They were very effective on enemy armor, but had to be discontinued because of a shortage of Tungsten.

  • @CritterCamSoCal
    @CritterCamSoCal 4 года назад

    Thanks Bismarck great program..!

  • @thisisstevet
    @thisisstevet 4 года назад

    Great video again, Tomas - many thanks!

  • @marcomercogliano9448
    @marcomercogliano9448 4 года назад

    Love your work Bismarck... please keep it up...

  • @christopherthornburgh1000
    @christopherthornburgh1000 4 года назад

    Thanks for your content Bismark!

  • @mandalorion
    @mandalorion 4 года назад

    I had an ear infection last year, took three doctor appointments and two trips to the hospital to get it sorted. Good luck.

  • @washingtonradio
    @washingtonradio 4 года назад +1

    On RUclips, I have noticed many excellent videos are made by what are essentially '1 person' operations with good quality gear but not traditional movie production gear. The fact there are many only 2 or 3 salaries and limited money spent on equipment, computers, and software means the overall costs are low and with multiple episodes per year the cost per episode is very low. So the money needed while not trivial is much less than the costs of a traditional production company. RUclips allows the content to go worldwide instead of a regionally, here is why the 'In the Cockpit' series would work on RUclips but say on local TV/cable (and why many non-native English speakers use English and not their native language). Anyone who has a good grasp of English can watch at any time once it is posted. So while the content is oriented towards a niche audience, in absolute worldwide numbers there is a pretty decent audience to reach. If the 'In the Cockpit' was to be aired on say German or French TV it would have to be redubbed (or worse reshot) in English to aired in English speaking countries, plus the niche in France or Germany would guarantee a very small viewership that would make the economics miserable.
    Probably the most important part of making a good video is the research that must occur behind the scenes and the shooting of the video itself. This is probably the part a tradition documentary will skimp as the presenter/narrator is just reading a script and not actively involved in the research. While often on RUclips the presenter/narrator is also the primary researcher and script writer who is interested in getting the facts and interpretation correct as is often rather knowledgeable professionally about the topics.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @bjw4859
    @bjw4859 4 года назад

    Dude, keep up the excellent work, the 262 has been my favourite aircraft of all time, I subscribed to your channel after the 1st of your videos, & yes it was the 262 walk around, you make everything so easy to understand, thanks again.

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 4 года назад +13

    Talking about ever more scarce resources I must point out an interesting issue regarding the Jumo 004 costing RM10,000 for materials and was also somewhat cheaper than the competing BMW 003, which was RM12,000, and far cheaper than the Junkers Jumo 213 piston engine, which was RM35,000. Moreover, the jets used lower-skill labor and needed only 375 hours to complete (including manufacture, assembly, and shipping), compared to 1,400 for the BMW 801. It is easy to understand why Germany concentrated on the jet engines....

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 4 года назад

      Excellent comment.

    • @Abi-fo7gh
      @Abi-fo7gh 4 года назад

      you forgot the fact that the maximum life of the jumo 004 was around 17 hours and was a massive drain on their resources due to the number of engines they had to make

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 4 года назад +1

      @@Abi-fo7gh I have not forgotten but it depend very much on the pilot's skills to handle this engine. Here is the following excerpt: Given the lower-quality steels used in the 004B, these engines typically only had a service life of some 10-25 hours, perhaps twice this in the hands of a skilled pilot. Another shortcoming of the engine, common to all early turbojets, was its sluggish throttle response so, it was fairly easy to inject too much fuel into the engine by throttling up too quickly, allowing heat to build up before the cooling air could remove it. This led to softening of the turbine blades, and was a major cause for engine failures. You mentioned the great waste of alloys, or resources, to build this engine but have have you seen the photos of incredible mountain of wings ready to assembled on the late Me 109 in front of the liberated assembling factory in Czechoslovakia or brand new airplanes strewn around in Germany or Czechoslovakia? The real problem wasn't so much about the resources, not mentioning of course the precious alloys but the chronic shortage of fuel that really stopped cold Germany!!

    • @Abi-fo7gh
      @Abi-fo7gh 4 года назад

      @@paoloviti6156 very true

    • @drstrangelove4998
      @drstrangelove4998 3 года назад

      @@Abi-fo7gh you are wrong. A Jumo 004 cost half or a third the cost of a V12 petrol engine. They only took 30 minutes to swap out instead of two days for a piston engine (see Watson’s Wizzers who maintained captured 262s post war) Engine life was nearer 30 hours. A very long time for a German fighter in ‘44/‘45. Y comparison the Sabre Jet had a General Electric J47 jet, a development of the Jumo 004 with the help of German engineers which had the same 30 hr life between overhauls in 1947, although improved as time went on.

  • @rickriede2166
    @rickriede2166 4 года назад +5

    Had the Luftwaffe have had at it's disposal 500 Me 262's in 1944 historians today as well as other monday morning quarterback's would be questioning why Panther tank and other weapons systems production was foolishly put in a secondary position to jet fighter production and how that shortsightedness by Hitler led to a quickening of Germany's defeat.

    • @huntforandrew
      @huntforandrew 4 года назад

      Wehraboos love to play the if only game. If only Hitler listened to his generals, if only the Reich mass produced "insert wonder weapon here" it just never ends. Potential History did a great series of videos about this.

    • @lowlandnobleman6746
      @lowlandnobleman6746 4 года назад

      Potential History is the diet soda of history enthusiasts, but I saw that video, and it made some good points. Huge problem is the History Channel’s habit of insisting that everything wrong was directly Hitler’s fault. That’s where the myths really come from. Usually follows this formula: Insert wonder weapon here - Hitler is dumb dumb and ruins it - Germany loses when they could’ve TOTALLY won the war in five days flat if only they had this magical wonderweapon. Not really a Wehraboo thing, tbh. Just too many people who remember some shite they heard on TV. You guys whine about Wehraboos the same way HEMA practitioners whine about katana-loving Weaboos that think the katana can chop through plate armour. It’s a molehill that becomes a mountain in your eyes, not a mountain in actuality.

  • @dge4560
    @dge4560 4 года назад +3

    Yellow cables and color coding.
    Color coding is not the only way to tell wires apart on aircraft. Today almost every wire on aircraft is white, but they have a labled number attached for every so inches, to be able to tell them apart. Maybe the cables on the 262 has a similar system.

  • @TysoniusRex
    @TysoniusRex 3 года назад +1

    "I'm not going to die on that hill." :D Yeah, I think pronunciation of names in different languages is not the most important issue when discussing aircraft technical specifications.

  • @raytheron
    @raytheron 4 года назад

    Ausgezeichnet! Excellent, Chris.

  • @Franzburg
    @Franzburg 4 года назад +1

    Great video. Enjoyed it very much.

  • @jossschloss7600
    @jossschloss7600 4 года назад

    We love you Bismarck we do, we love you Bismarck we do, we love you Bismarck we do, oh Bismarck we love you!

  • @derektodd4126
    @derektodd4126 4 года назад

    Great stuff, much appreciated. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.

  • @orionroberts7971
    @orionroberts7971 3 года назад

    You do a Great job, thank you for explaining and sharing your knowledge and research. It's very interesting and brings alot of understanding of the planes and their use and especially the situations and difficulties the men and women had as challenges. Thanks again.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 4 года назад

    Stay safe. Great videos as always. From California.

  • @MoosePolo
    @MoosePolo 3 года назад

    One of my favorite channels

  • @hlynnkeith9334
    @hlynnkeith9334 4 года назад +7

    ". . . or what passes as German down in Austria." (wink) LOL

  • @at1cvb417
    @at1cvb417 4 года назад +2

    Every wire in cables I worked on in aircraft where one color, white. Not having a color code is not an issue if you have a wire run list, listing connector and pin on every end.

  • @TOMAS-lh4er
    @TOMAS-lh4er 4 года назад +3

    FYI !! I just saw a German trianing film for flying the ME-262 !1 Really cool . ITs on "RUclips , { Spotty Dog 4477 ) March 10th .

  • @juliusdream2683
    @juliusdream2683 4 года назад

    Great channel. Hey am I the only one who really loves the German WW2 paint scheme with the molted camouflage on the blue sides . Like the ME109-ME262 . The me262 has that style in that picture in the preview to this video.

  • @richardmeyeroff7397
    @richardmeyeroff7397 4 года назад +1

    I like this kind of video because it address the questions that people have. I also watch the Drydock videos that Daschinifel makes that serve the same purpose.

  • @lashleymh9418
    @lashleymh9418 3 года назад

    Glad you are doing this in English. Your videos are great.

  • @tobiassteindl2308
    @tobiassteindl2308 4 года назад +8

    ww2 airplane engines in a nutshell:
    allied: MOAR OCTANE
    germans: MOAR DISPLACEMENT

    • @teecar9868
      @teecar9868 4 года назад

      MOAR????? What does that stand for????

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 4 года назад

      Tee Car more

  • @robbydolson2973
    @robbydolson2973 3 года назад

    It appears there are metal wrap around tags on the wiring which would be included in a factory wiring diagram for identification. Some electrical engineers preferr it that way because coated wiring can fade over time making it difficult to trace circuits.

  • @vonskyme9133
    @vonskyme9133 4 года назад

    Interesting to see the change in industry over 80 years. The German engine industry used 150 t of Nickel per month. The minesite/refinery I work on (pretty big but not enormous on a nationwide scale) made 168 t yesterday...

  • @shaunmcclory8117
    @shaunmcclory8117 2 года назад

    It is much appreciated that you able to speak in English and i hope and think most know that most German people are able to speak/understand English well whereas most English speakers prob struggle with anything more than a very few basic words in German! Thanks man you're the best!..(obvs)!😆😉

  • @ianhamilton3172
    @ianhamilton3172 3 года назад

    Great to see your equanimity in responding to armchair critics - many of whom cannot even spell English words, let alone German. As an Australian it is interesting regarding World War 2 in the Pacific: for all the coverage our fliers or troops received, you’d have been forgiven for thinking that they had all knocked off for the weekend. Occasionally indefinite ‘Allies’ are referred to. And, of course, this tendency is worse in film accounts - never let the truth get in the way of a good story. More power to you. It’s refreshing to view presentations presenting realistic analysis of, for many of us still, cherished aircraft.

  • @joebolt5650
    @joebolt5650 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great videos Chris, a friend in California

  • @leandrobjj7361
    @leandrobjj7361 2 года назад

    What a great channel..I discovered a few days ago. Regards from Argentina. Keep The same way!!!!

  • @GottHoldNicetomeet
    @GottHoldNicetomeet 4 года назад +1

    11:02 To add to your point in 1944 germany was lacking experienced pilots, pumping out more planes, doesn't give more trained pilots eitherway.

  • @_datapoint
    @_datapoint 4 года назад

    As a native English speaker raised in the Midwest, USA, I gotta say I wince every time I hear “Junkers” and not “yoonkers ”. I remember my community college history teacher called the German Air Force the Luhft-wafe. That hurt to hear too.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 4 года назад +1

      At least it's not Yonkers as in Yonkers NY

  • @ret7army
    @ret7army 4 года назад

    Regarding languages, and I agree with Herr Bismark, but for an example Wycliffe Bible Translators have identified about 100 different languages in the Philippines and an additional 5 dialects. My wife speaks 4 of them plus a dialect in addition to Spanish and English. I speak English and a bit of German, Turkish, and Tagalog. When going from one language to another, we'll it gets messed up, then add the regional/dialect differences.

  • @ianlazenby3871
    @ianlazenby3871 3 года назад +1

    Christoph if the me 262 was available 2 years earlier would have it made a significant change to the outcome of the war?

    • @FiveCentsPlease
      @FiveCentsPlease 3 года назад +1

      + ian lazenby My opinion is the war would have lasted a year longer while the Allies brought their jets into production. And WW2 would have ended like the Korean war with a mix of jet and piston aircraft.

    • @bubiruski8067
      @bubiruski8067 2 года назад

      It would have certainly not made a change to the outcome of war because the western oligarchs, who orchestrated this war, would have shipped then times as much war material over the Atlantic and sacrificed ten times as many US sons just to win this war.
      The riches of western oligarchs were so enormous that there was no need for them to create own reasonable jets.
      It took them until the Korean war that they switched to the F86.
      Germans were doomed !

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa 3 года назад

    I have a question: How many more 262s would you estimate Germany would have needed to regain air superiority or at least stop the allied bombing onslaught. Maybe 2, 3, 4 or 10 or 100 times more ?

  • @thursfield3107
    @thursfield3107 4 года назад

    brilliant as ever - have you looked at a Spit/Hurri/P51/P47/P38/Me109/190 cockpit? that would be a great project comparison! All the best, Christoph.

  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for disproving the myth that the ME-262 was a bad decision for a resource short Reich. Until I saw your videos I hadn't thought about the fact that jets use less volatile fuel than piston engines, and I certainly did not imagine that a turbojet engine would be simpler to build in 1940s Germany than a piston engine, even one of the 12 or 16 cylinder monsters that powered warplanes in WWII. Of course, I have never taken apart, much less designed, a jet engine, while I have worked on many four stroke engines, which seem so much simpler than a jet.

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 4 года назад +1

    Biggest question for me is why didn’t they fit fast firing cannon vs. the slow MK108s? It would have been more effective w the insane closing speed against a bomber.

    • @chriscarbaugh3936
      @chriscarbaugh3936 4 года назад

      Call Me Ishmael; many 262 pilots were hand picked. I would argue other than the ex-bomber pilots (KG(j)) they were the best of the best in terms of fighter pilots!

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 4 года назад

      More effective? The Me-262's 4 30mm cannons were the most effective standard armament package on a WW2 fighter aircraft.

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 4 года назад

    Best plane and figther of WW2 - if you asked the testpilot of the RAF that had flown every british - american - german plane of the war ... Captain Brown "most formidable plane" and he loved it ... of cause a bit more challenging ...

  • @ValaltaFishbone
    @ValaltaFishbone 4 года назад

    3 little points I'd like to point out - First, I relly hope the Me-262 is in Schleisheim longer than 1922, or else I'd miss it again ;-) Nr. Two: Thanks for the wink on "what passes on German in Austria" as an Austrian, we're proud of our way to speak german here :-) and Nr. Three: Thanks for the great content we got to enjoy, keep it up! Btw, you mentioned that english isn't your second language as (more or less) usual nowadays, what other languages do you speak?

  • @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
    @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 4 года назад

    Best wishes and good luck, everyone.

  • @powerjets3512
    @powerjets3512 4 года назад

    I think you have to do a video on Germany "catching up" (@18:00) on aircraft design in 1933-1935. This period coincides with a political party taking power and investing like crazy in people and new military technology. The technology was then tested straight away in Spain. The question is, what was it catching up with? Britain and more so other European nations had biplanes in numbers, but the technology and thinking was first world war. The Hawker Hart or the new Swordfish perhaps? Thankfully you could switch out the wings for metal ones on the Heart to get a Hurricane.

  • @evo5349
    @evo5349 4 года назад

    Thanks from the UK very interesting on a great aeroplane.

  • @hg2560
    @hg2560 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for doing these videos! So much misinformation about the Me-262 out there (or German vehicles in general)

  • @catlady8324
    @catlady8324 2 года назад +1

    Question: Why do Euro house windows open by tilting and only open just a little?

  • @DerStrom
    @DerStrom 4 года назад

    Hey regarding the color coded wire, if you look at the ends of each circuit theres a metal clip attached to each. These clips have a reference number on them, it tells you what circuit it belongs to. Its a common practice with both the allies and axis. So no, they didnt use color coded wire, but the circuits are labelled so it doesnt matter. My M38a1 uses the same system.

  • @bobvincent5921
    @bobvincent5921 4 года назад

    And very well done too. Yes TV would send most of the producers to sleep before the end was reached.

  • @mikeklaene4359
    @mikeklaene4359 4 года назад

    Actually your English is quite good and understandable here in Pennsylvania. Unfortunately none of my grandparents taught us German. Though, when Grandma Linneman was upset she would express herself in German.
    As to English, even here in the states there are large variations between different areas - though it is becoming less. Theoretically folks in New Zealand speak English but you could not prove it by me.
    The "correct" pronunciation of "Junkers" sounds like how Yonkers, New York is pronounced.
    What part of Germany are you from? Most of my great-grandparents were from the Duchy of Oldenburg. My family name in German is: Kläne .
    I think that I will start supporting you on Patreon. Take care!

  • @gusti187
    @gusti187 4 года назад +2

    Because of Corona couldn’t you please play some il 2 again? In my opinion it would be far better than to see no more content from your channel. thx for your effort, I love your vids👍

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  4 года назад +1

      There is enough in the bank for now for it not to be an immediate problem. I might do some streaming of Simulators if I can, but currently with the ear infection I prefer not to wear headphones etc which are kind of required

    • @gusti187
      @gusti187 4 года назад

      Military Aviation History yeah, of course this makes sense, gute Besserung ✌️I have another question, I haven’t got a PC yet and maybe you can tell me which specs it needs to play il 2 smoothly and with nice graphics?

    • @folterknecht1768
      @folterknecht1768 4 года назад

      @@gusti187 That all depends on your monitor/desired resolution - (1080p @27" should be banned btw). If you are german visit hardwareluxxDOTde (community tab) or for english speakers sites like anandtechDOTcom or techpoweruoDOTcom.
      Also as sims arn't that popular and seldom benchmarked it is always good to ask that question (especially CPU and GPU) in the community forum of the sim you are interested.

  • @dge4560
    @dge4560 4 года назад +2

    Fighter bomber vs fighter. Well I see the 262 as a fighter bomber as a mistake for two reasons.
    1. They needed fighters to combat bombers and fighter support.
    2. The 262 is very complex and vulnerable to ground fire. They already had to 190 a8 and with aircooled engine and armoured cockpit, that would be a good choice, and have the 262 do its job with aircover.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 4 года назад

      1. The Me262 was largely employed as a fighter. But it could drop bombs, as every new aircraft delivered to LW after 1942 had to be multirole. The Me262 also had AI radar 2 seater version, an anti tank version and a reconnaissance version. In fact when used as a bomber it was pretty effective.
      2. Every airplane is vulnerable to ground fire. The closer you are to the ground the more vulnerable you become. Flying high can be just as dangerous if shot at with heavy, radar predicted AAA. But if you move so fast the AAA can't tack or lead you, you have a better chance of survival. The Me262 had the speed. Dropping bombs at 700kph from 20m is a technique, once mastered that is quite devastating. Although the Me262 was never fitted with any kind of bomb sight (unlike the Arado which had a automatic gyro stabilized computing bombsight) using the 6 O'clock position on the standard Revi gunsight usually resulted in success.

    • @dge4560
      @dge4560 4 года назад

      1. What i mean is, why spend time, effort, development and resources on multirole, when there is a good ground attacker already on the shelfs.
      2. Some aircraft is more vulnerable than others. Mustang was also used as a strafe aircraft, but the pilots was not fond of that task. 1 hot in the coolantsystem and youre destined to crash landing. Thunderbolts were better at that job, due to the toughness of its airframe and powerplant. Same thing with the 190.

    • @PORRRIDGE_GUN
      @PORRRIDGE_GUN 4 года назад

      @HiWetcam Agreed. But in Nazi Germany, a lot of things did not make any sense. Which aircraft did or didn't make it to production was as often down to nepotism, cronyism and party loyalties and who was or wasn't on the shit list at the ReichsLufftahrtMinisterium. Willy Messerschmitt was a loyal nazi but not the best aircraft designer in Germany

  • @1badhaircut
    @1badhaircut 4 года назад +2

    Re: the fighter/bomber hybrid role
    *they had the arado 234 designed as a bomber

    • @alwoo5645
      @alwoo5645 4 года назад

      First designed as recon

  • @jorgschimmer8213
    @jorgschimmer8213 4 года назад +1

    Hu. I am a Mercedes Benz truck mechanic. All new trucks, including unimogs have white cables to at least 90%. If you are looking for a damaged cable it is „funny“.

  • @darriusdias
    @darriusdias 4 года назад +3

    Can you do a video on aircraft gunsights, please?

  • @randyallen2771
    @randyallen2771 4 года назад

    Vielen danke Bismark.

  • @paramishin4869
    @paramishin4869 3 года назад

    At the end of the war in 1945, what was the best or most outstanding German air superiority fighter? Is it the Me262, Fw190D, or Bf109K? And why?

  • @markzimmerman7279
    @markzimmerman7279 3 года назад +1

    Why is it that the English always have to claim that what they had was the best even if they have to embellish the narrative?

  • @ericvonmichaelis7190
    @ericvonmichaelis7190 4 года назад

    Are you planing a episode in the Me 163. I think there is one at Oberschleißheim. May you actually make episodes on planes like the Eurofighter, because they are still being used by countries and some of their technical aspects are classified?

  • @nilsthorhard9944
    @nilsthorhard9944 4 года назад +1

    I love these videos!
    Question, since you played rise of flight, will you do videos of the flying circus with any of your il2 squad mates?

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 Год назад

    The first Mossie, is a shoot down, even if a plane is intact enough to land, it’s a victory, forcing a plane down counts as a victory.

  • @robmarcjon
    @robmarcjon 4 года назад

    Thank you for the video . Very informative and enjoyable e

  • @memonk11
    @memonk11 4 года назад +1

    I don’t remember seeing color coded wires on anything until the early 1980s.

  • @djbiscuit1818
    @djbiscuit1818 4 года назад +1

    17:33 lmaoo you really just put him down *hard*

  • @moss8448
    @moss8448 3 года назад

    Do you think the 262 ever broke the sound barrier intentional or not? I've read where it did have that capability. In a power dive of course as it had a 'flying tail'.

    • @moss8448
      @moss8448 3 года назад

      walked up on it at Wright-Pat's WWII presentation in `83; towards the end of the walk and the damn thing took just took your breath away. My first impression was looking around to see if anyone else was looking to climb aboard. Come to find out Adolf Galland did a walk-thru with other WWII Aces the very next day, the day I went I was the only one in the place, (it was a Tuesday in early `83) man would I have loved to just talk to those guys.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Год назад

    ​@MilitaryAviationHistory >>> I may have already commented this under another video of yours, but: Regarding your language speaking skills, YOUR ENGLISH is INFINITELY BETTER than MY GERMAN...👍

  • @onevastanus
    @onevastanus 4 года назад

    Sorry if this is a long comment, but I need to make it.
    Firstly, with all respect to those that fought and died or were injured and also to everyone affected, which was pretty much everyone involved, along with all the generations yet to come, I want to say how, in my own limited opinion, the people who were killing each other back then would almost certainly have approved of our unity now. I think they fought for peace, and we do have peace of a sort, if not worldwide but at least in Europe.
    I can't help but be pleased about how we can discuss the events dispassionately and admit mistakes on either side, so I think in that way we are honouring the dead heroes. I want to say how valuable channels like this are in highlighting the cultural differences that still exist, and that helps us not to descend into more stupidity. Sorry for saying it was stupid, but it was stupid. It doesn't change the bravery because they are the ones who taught us, with their lives, how stupid it was, and as war still is.
    I hope that everyone will learn this lesson that other people are never really the enemy; and I pray that we are destined to not relive the mistakes of the past by regressing deeper into stupidity. I for one will never raise arms against another human being because they are from another place, and I implore everyone else to think about it deeply if they are ever asked to do so. Thanks so much for a great channel.