My great grandmother was born 10 years before the Wright brothers' flight, in 1893. She died at the age of 106 in 1999, almost one year after the first module of the ISS was launched. What a century she has witnessed.
@@1980bwc there's a documentary about the last ww1 vets made in the early 2000s starring some British gents that accomplished exactly that. I think the last one of those guys died in 2004 if I remember correctly, haven't watched it in a while... I should, it's good stuff, thanks for reminding me👍
@@peach_25 isn't that the whole point of YT, to waste time? It's hardly a place for a quality education. Curiosity Stream, Great Courses+, and other sites they pitch are better for that.
@@jonrolfson1686 Right, and maybe Pancho Barnes has a duplicate "Happy Bottom Riding Club" in Heaven, where all the Great Ones are hanging out! Great woman, great flyer. Stay safe.
“..in the form of a pass....enger airliner. So I really hope you enjoyed that video, if you did smash like that button and hit that subscriber button and we’ll see you next time”
Since you mentioned the engines trying to rip themselves apart... this reminds me of a very old WW2 flight simulator i used to play as a kid, IL2 Sturmovik. That game allowed you to fly, amongst many other planes, the Me-262. One of the things that burnt into my memory was that, if you throttled up to quickly in the 262 one, or both of its engines would just catch fire.
My father used to tell me a story when he was a POW. Some fighter had spotted a jet (and remember the sound of a jet was totally unknown to him at the time) and was heading towards it when the jet decided to go full speed to escape and basically left the prop fighter standing still. He was convinced that the war was as good as over at that point. Fortunately, it was not.
I'd have to say the ME 262 was my favourite aircraft of all time, & definitely for ww2 combat aircraft. I was obsessed with making model aircraft as a child, specialising in mainly ww2 fighter & bomber aircraft I think I made 50 or 60 before I grew out of it ( sadly ), & the 262 was the only jet aircraft I included in this selection. I actually found the boxes I had them stored in the other day, ( some the worse for wear ), & the 262 was with them. Great video by the way, keep them all up, cheers.
My great grandfather was a radio operator in a lancaster bomber and he remembered seeing a pair of me-262's. He got told about them but many pilots thought it was superstition and silly rumors.Then on one bombing mission the pilot and the navigator shouted him up to the cockpit to have a look, and their first reaction was "bloody hell thats a flying shark it looks beautiful!" They didnt attack likely because they were low on fuel or had ran out of ammunition, but I can imagine seeing a 262 back in 1944, would have been like seeing a spaceship. My great grandfather passed away in 2012 but he told me a lot of cool stories like this.
Whittle's engine design was centrifugal and the German design is axial flow. In order to increase the power of a centrifugal engine you have to build it with a bigger circumference. While you can increase the trust of an axial flow engine in the same way, it is generally done by making it longer. This gives the engine more compressor blades. Virtually ALL jet engines are axial flow in design. Whittle's design was abandoned very quickly.
Apparently Whittle was aware of the axial flow concept and its advantages but went with centrifugal as it was a better design for the materials available at the time.
You are repeating a myth that has been perpetuated by the German engineering fraternity. Whittle's engines and the British centrifugal flow engines that were developed from it were simpler: however, they were far more reliable, had a better thrust/weight ratio, and were more efficient that the equivalent axial flow German engines. No less important, they had an altogether better throttle response: for instance, if the throttle of a Jumo 004 was opened up rapidly, the engine was liable to surge and flame out. It is well known that Me262 pilots had to climb out to attack the B-17s on a fixed throttle setting. I've seen it described as a "tactic" by a modern-day German test pilot: it was not a "tactic", it was a necessity. The 262s were sitting ducks if caught by P-51s when coming in to land. The axial flow engine was, of course, eventually to become the future. Please check the Wikipedia entry for the Metropolitan -Vickers F.2 engine, to learn how advanced Britain's axial flow engine technology was during the war.
Grahamj9101: That is some good information,yes the British jet engines were much more long lasting, if not mistaken, l think they loaned some to the Americans for their first jets.
@@grahamj9101Centrifugal compressor turbojet engines suffer from extremely low thrust to drag ratio performance due to their larger frontal area. Axial Compressors are significantly more efficient than Centrifugal compressor turbojets which is why their are no supersonic aircraft to ever exist with one and why they are completely extinct in modern aviation.
@@livinginvancouverbc2247 I was an Aerial firefighter or ten years. DC6/7's slimy red mud on burning trees and all that. But I was referring to Yeager's l Long life beating the odds-similar to my late father in law four bronze stars and a sliver . Normandy, StLo, The Battle of the Bulge, Aachen, Lubendorf Bridge, Liberation for Dachau. He also died at home in bed at 80.
To elevate this from a “side project” to “MegaProject” you could have added the vast complex of facilities both above and below ground to support the development and construction of the 262. MegaProject suggestion - Human Genome Project
The plane Yeager "shot down" was landing at the time, had to be done, but not what I would call a fair fight. I know, that's the best kind of fight in a war, but still.
@@darko714 Is it just me or do you watch a documentary or read about a conflict realize you find yourself rooting for the underdog or having hindsight wish they would have choose the other option, who knows if it would have changed anything, but Plan A didn't work out so well. I do it with WW2 and the Eastern Front. Big Picture, I'm glad the Nazis lost, they were some nasty people, but damn the Cold War wasn't a picnic growing up, I can still hear the "duck and cover" song, and thinking, ya, this is going to protect me homework in the desk then it will me. Didn't the Russians loose more men at Stalingrad the the U.S. did in the entire war ? That must have sucked, but so did hiding under my desk thinking they were trying to kill me.
Absolutely agree another hollow victory. The American pilots had no chance against these machines unless they attacked them when they were taking off or landing. GTF Yeager
Trivia: In the Hidden and Dangerous 2 game (a gem!) the first set of missions is Operation Snowball, Norway, where your goal is to infiltrate a secret research facility where 262 were being developed. Inside you can find plans and there are plenty of wind tunnel models.
I live about 15 miles from Chuck Yeager's home town. He died a couple of days ago. He was a real legend if there ever was one. He once flew a jet under a bridge here in Charleston WV, for some type of celebration they were having.
1:15 - Chapter 1 - The origin of jet power 2:35 - Chapter 2 - From concept to reality 4:35 - Chapter 3 - Close to rocket science 7:45 - Chapter 4 - The birth of a new age 10:25 - Chapter 5 - High flying legacy
Finally this guy is talking in a regular tone amd not a clown voice and hes not talking super fast either. I stopped watching his videos a while ago until I came accross this one. Hopefully he talks like this more often so that i can start watching his videos again
My great grandmother was 93 when she past in 1996. Born in 1903 she saw men dream of flight, learn to fly, flat across the country and then the seas. She watched as the human race gained the ability to put a human being on the Moon. The technological leap from non flight to flight was amazing. To go from the Wright Brothers first flight to landing a human on the moon in one lifetime, is amazing.
Simon, my grandfather was born in Linz, Austria-Hungary in 1900. He really did see mankind go from horses and primitive automobiles on dirt paths to jet airliners and rockets that put men on the moon and a highway system in the United States that let you drive across the country in less than a week. All in his lifetime. He passed away in 1994, after falling and breaking his hip. My Mother just turned 97 last week. Hopefully this trend will carry on through the generations. I was born in 1950, during President Truman's administration, and here I am, seventy years later, about to usher in President Biden. I see in some of the comments about the passing of General Yeager. He, like myself and family, came from West Virginia. He, like my Mom, was 97. It must be the mountain air.
The very existence of the Messerschmitt Me-262 is a humiliating slap in the face to anyone who still believed the Allies had superior aircraft... it's essential to slander and denigrate it at every opportunity.
I think it’s Simon since he has a playlist of 1,900 vids on this channel alone. We are the true winners though as all those hundreds of quality vids from both , mwah ✌️✌️
10:49 -- The P-80 was deployed to Europe in very small numbers starting in late December 1944, in a developmental capacity similar to the way that the Germans deployed the 262 in Jagdgeschwader 7. By that time, though, there really wasn't any Luftwaffe to speak of, so the P-80 never saw action. But they *were* deployed.
RUclips is so awash with channels posting ten minute videos feigning expertise on sometimes very complex subjects that the internet can now safely be declared dead.
For comparison's sake, one Me 262 @ 87K rm was the equivalent of one Tiger I's original production cost of 88K rm. Those were extremely expensive for them to produce, specially since they were turning out Stug III's and Panthers for ~9-12K rm.
Fun fact, in the chorus of ME 262 there's a line that goes "junkers jumo 004", the junkers jumo 004 was the jet engine that propelled the ME 262. They also say "Blasts from clustered R4M quartets in my snout", R4M where the machine guns on the plane, four of them were at the front of the aircraft (its snout). BOC did their homework for sure
You touch on the lack of availability of heat resistant metals. They had an ME-262 on display at the Wings of Freedom museum, a small place on the grounds of the former Willow Grove NAS in PA. This was years ago. I remember the sign for the display mentioned engine life, it was incredibly short, if I recall the time between tear-downs was less than 10 hours to replace burner cans. My father, who served in the Canadian forces, had a couple of interesting stories. During his time in England they would occasionally hear an Allied plane whistling overhead, but they could never catch a glimpse of it. Word soon got around that you had to look where the sound was headed, not where it was. Then they could catch a glimpse of a plane, a plane without a propeller! If they asked their superiors about this "plane without a propeller", the superior would simply say "You didn't see anything". Another time he saw an Allied spotter plane, a plane like a Piper Cub. The spotter plane dove into a depression (like a quarry or small valley) and started circling tightly to stay in the depression. Moments later, a Nazi jet screamed over the depression, intent on shooting down the spotter plane, but he couldn't get enough depression on his guns to line up a shot on the spotter plane. The spotter plane popped out of the depression, only to find the jet still lurking, so he dove back into the depression. This game of cat-and-mouse went on for a few passes, until the jet running low on fuel headed for home. The spotter plane then popped out of the depression and simply went on his way.
$300,000?! Even if you multiply that by 10, $3 million for a bleeding edge jet fighter that had no completion whatsoever is bloody outstanding value for money!
1. This number is definitely wrong - using 1939 exchange rate 1$=2.5RM, so no way 87,000RM is $300,000, more like $30,000. 2. It's not really possibile to calculate the cost of ME-262 in 2021 money for several reasons: Nazi Germany economy was centrally planned. Prices don't mean much when they are set by beaureucrats instead of the market. And there's inflation...but there's also wartime rationing (so the value of money is dropping, but the prices are fixed...but they are ultimately meaningless since you can't spend it anyway). Some of the inflation ja being exported to conquered territories with Germany forcing extorting exchange rates on the conquered people. They are also using slave labour, which only carries a small fee for the Ministry - but this doesn't really matter anyway since the company is de facto state-run. Even if you do find a way to come up with a reliable figure in Reichsmark, there is no way to really convert this to 1945 US dollars - you couldn't buy any US dollars for Reichsmark. Trying to extrapolate from pre-war exchange rates won't work either, as this changed a lot throughout 1930s and would probably vary like crazy due to many aforementioned reasons+many more (MEFO bills, military RM and so on). Long story short - WW2 equipment prices are meaningless, the only thing they can be compared to are other prices from the same era in the same currency - and even that can be misleading. So 87,000 Reichsmark is just that, 87,000 Reichsmark. A Bf-109 cost something like 56,000RM. A Tiger tank - about 800,000
I'll always love my grandpa he was almost of military age during the Spanish-American War. He served in the Cuban occupation Army at the end of the Spanish-American War. He was alive during the first moon landing and thought it was just another science-fiction program. He was a little resistant to the idea that it was real but at least he had a good excuse, not like the confused and disorientated young people that claim we never went to the Moon.
FWIW: My Mom & Dad were born in 1919 and 1917 respectively. {Both of them are gone now.} I was probably aware of this when they were still living, but I wonder now how AMAZING all the aeronautical developments of the 20th and early 21st centuries must have seemed to them. I remember being amazed at the Apollo moon landings -- I was 8 years old in 1969 -- but to my parents' generation, it must have REALLY seemed like science fiction come to life. Even now, thinking of my daughter {in her mid-30s} and especially my grandson {now 10} the availability of electronics, the internet, and instant communication worldwide -- compared to what was available when I was younger -- in a way seems like science fiction to me
The Heinkel He 280 was the first turbojet-powered fighter aircraft in the world. It was inspired by Ernst Heinkel's emphasis on research into high-speed flight and built on the company's experience with the He 178 jet prototype. A combination of technical and political factors led to it being passed over in favor of the Messerschmitt Me 262. Only nine were built and none reached operational status.
The USAAF dealt perhaps the biggest blow to the Me-262 without even realizing it. The Messerschmitt Works at Regensburg had almost finished the tooling to build the Me-262 in early August 1943. When the USAAF bombed Regensburg on 17 August, 1943, they devastated the Messerschmitt plant - no Me-109 fighters would roll off the line until January 1944. But unbeknownst to the Allies at the time, it also destroyed the production tooling for the Me-262, delaying the start of production for months.
9:30 …ironically here…the first human to break the sound barrier was likely a German pilot flying a 262… read about Hans Guido Mütke . Wikipedia has a page on him, plus his 262 still exists in a Swiss air museum.
@@FiveCentsPleaseNot so fast, Mutke's story is credible and is not at all like many other false claims of supersonic dives... the Me-262 was actually wind tunnel tested to speeds of Mach 1.4 and Mutke used the Me-262's analog fly-by-wire Horizontal Stabilator to counteract the effects of compressiblity and Mach tuck.
Von Ohain taught propulsion at the University of Florida in the 80's. I missed his class by one year :( but he did give a lecture on how he and a motorcycle mechanic friend developed this initial jet engine. It ran on gasoline and the first time they got it to for up he said it the flames 100' out the back! Great story and a cool memory. He passed away in 1998.
Max Hahn was an engineer and the Master machinist at reknown _Bartels und Becker_ racing engine specialist, he is the nephew of Nobel prize winner Otto Hahn, the Father of Nuclear Chemistry.
The big advancements of the ME-262 was the use of axial compression engines and the swept back wings. The British used centrifugal compression engines which wouldn't scale up easily to more powerful engines. The axial compression engines have been scaled up to 100,000 hp in the Boeing 777. Almost all modern twin engine jet transports use axial compression engines under their swept wings just like the 1944 Me-109. No mention was made of Dr Anselm Franz, the creator of the Junkers Jumo 004 axial compression jet engine, which was one of the great engineering achievements. - Besides not having good high temp materials for the jet engines, the Soviets over ran the Romanian oil fields in August 1944, which was the main supply of German oil. The Germans made about 1,000 Me-262 jets but could only get about 30 in the air at one time.....no fuel.
no junkers jumo but BMW 004...Axial compressors was MUCH more difficult to built and to design, in ww2 was the centifugal compressor totaly logic (was use up the the year 2000 in the RR Dart turboprop) and germans had no kerosene problems but high grade gasoline problems...
Having done some research, I have to correct my comment of a year ago: the Me 262 was NOT the first jet fighter to enter operational service - the Gloster Meteor was. A trials unit was formed in April 1944 for test flying of the Me262 and the training of Luftwaffe pilots. In July, an Me 262 of that unit reportedly damaged or downed a reconnaissance (unarmed?) Mosquito. Whilst this action might have been the first time that a jet fighter had fired on an enemy aircraft, it cannot be considered as 'operational service', as the trials unit was not an operational squadron. The Mosquito was effectively a 'target of opportunity' and presented itself for live gun firing trials. The Me 262 did not enter squadron service until August 1944 at the earliest: however, some sources give the date as October 1944. And what of the Meteor? A so-called Tactical Flight was formed in May 1944, the equivalent of the Me 262's trials unit, and the Meteors would have used towed targets for their live gun firing trials. The Meteor was released to squadron service in July of 1944. 616 Squadron was credited as downing 13 or 14 V.1 'Dooodlebugs' in the following weeks.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely no truth to this popular British myth. The Me-262 was transferred from RLM testing and entered operational squadron service with the Luftwaffe on April 19th 1944... and shot down its first RAF plane just 1 day before the Gloster "Meatbox" entered squadron service on June 27th, 1944. The Gloster never saw operational RAF service as a fighter... and it only killed British pilots during the war. 890 would crash killing 450 RAF pilots..
Simon: 'In just fifty years went from not flying all all to flying supersonic.' Bascule(paraphrase): 'In just sixty years we went from not flying at all to playin' golf on the bleedin' Moon.'
Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star was an American jet fighter build in 1943, two of the planes were used in reconnaissance in the italian theatre. It was also one of the first production model planes to have the jet engine within the fusilage.
yep was not possible to put a german engine in the fuselage because did overheat and only 1 engine was far to weak , but the first P80's had many engine issues...
Great content Simon as usual, one small error however is that the ME262 ran on jet fuel, which is very similar in composition to kerosene. Which ironically is the one thing that Germany had an abundance of.
Technically the Gloster Meteor was the first jet and not the ME-262. The Gloster Meteor can claim to be the first jet fighter to enter operational service, while No.616 squadron of the RAF was the first operational jet fighter in the work. The first fully operational Me 262 squadron, Kommando Nowotny, was not formed until September 1944, under the command of the famous ace Walter Nowotny, flying its first operation on 3 October. www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_WWII.html#:~:text=The%20nearest%20No.,jet%20bombers%20attacked%20their%20airfield.&text=The%20Gloster%20Meteor%20entered%20service%20just%20after%20the%20Messerschmitt%20Me%20262.&text=616%20squadron%20of%20the%20RAF,jet%20fighter%20in%20the%20work.
@@FiveCentsPlease Still think the idea of some poor ground personnel guy yanking away at the balky starter starter of a Me 262 as a formation of B-17's is cursing over head to a distant target would make a cool scene in a movie .
@@FiveCentsPlease Here's a you tube of a handed cranked copter ruclips.net/video/Q-0-adBixos/видео.html The Do 32 tip jet copter was started like this as well. Pretty cool! I was into the idea of a kit tip jet copters but have since gone with Bruno Nagler's ideas.
@@ufoengines The two-stroke engine on the Jumo turbine also has an electric start option that the pilot can operate from the cockpit. The pull start is an option for the ground crew.
This plane could certainly be effective enough. My uncle was a navigator on a B-24. His plane was knocked down by an ME-262. He spent the final 6 months of the war as a POW.
"In the form of the passeng" .... Video ends abruptly. Noice
Unfinished teaser?
Danny's out of the basement
Intheformofthepasngr
My Grandmother was born in 1900, and had her first flight on a Boeing 747 in 1979 at age 79.all that time the airplane evolved.
That’s why it’s a Sideprojects video...haha
My great grandmother was born 10 years before the Wright brothers' flight, in 1893. She died at the age of 106 in 1999, almost one year after the first module of the ISS was launched. What a century she has witnessed.
0.0 thats truly awesome.
She was so close to being living in 3 Centuries.
Wow....🙏
Very interesting, thank you for sharing.
@@1980bwc there's a documentary about the last ww1 vets made in the early 2000s starring some British gents that accomplished exactly that. I think the last one of those guys died in 2004 if I remember correctly, haven't watched it in a while... I should, it's good stuff, thanks for reminding me👍
and what an criminal time we are experience now. Politicians who hate the population is normal now!
Simon's plane of thought was shot down by an ME-262.
Achtung Englander!
Breaking news, smug Englishmen says me262 was trash.
Our story begins in Egypt and ends abruptly mid sentence.
@@XART0-PAIKTIS True but too many things come from Greece so we lose the count xD
I guess with 12 channels Simon no longer has time to finish his sentences.
Cliffhanger - Now we’ll never know if jet engines were ever developed for commercial flight ...
Yeah, the quality of his videos have dropped to the point where they are a time waster.
@@peach_25 isn't that the whole point of YT, to waste time? It's hardly a place for a quality education. Curiosity Stream, Great Courses+, and other sites they pitch are better for that.
I still watched it all the way through, and 'liked' it, even though he didn't get a chance to say it.
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 go watch Greg’s planes and automobiles if you want to really learn about ww2 aircraft 😄
RIP Chuck Yeager. Absolute Legend
Needs a Biographics video
Absolutely a legend! And Chuck needs a BIO for sure! He was my inspiration growing up and I am sad he passed yesterday.
@@o0oTyPow If there is a heaven, I hope that 'Glamorous' Glennis was there to greet him.
@@jonrolfson1686 And breaking the sound barrier together again!
@@jonrolfson1686 Right, and maybe Pancho Barnes has a duplicate "Happy Bottom Riding Club" in Heaven, where all the Great Ones are hanging out! Great woman, great flyer. Stay safe.
“..in the form of a pass....enger airliner. So I really hope you enjoyed that video, if you did smash like that button and hit that subscriber button and we’ll see you next time”
Thank you stand in Simon!!! (I actually was wondering if my PC gave up or if it was Yooooooootooobe being a bitch, now I know!)
Thank you. I now have closure and can die in peace.
Better ask Simon for a small paycheck!
Nailed it💬
You beat me to it😂👍
Since you mentioned the engines trying to rip themselves apart... this reminds me of a very old WW2 flight simulator i used to play as a kid, IL2 Sturmovik. That game allowed you to fly, amongst many other planes, the Me-262. One of the things that burnt into my memory was that, if you throttled up to quickly in the 262 one, or both of its engines would just catch fire.
I bet that game was made by usa or britain
Oh yeah I remember that, both the game and that self-destructive behaviour of the Me-262 😂
@@3asternope. It was made in Russia by 1C iirc. They're still making more sequels like IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad or IL-2: Cliffs of Dover
I, too, vote for a bio on Chuck. Not sure how many have already mentioned it already, but I did see a few!
If he doesn't do one, I'm gonna smash that dislike button
My father used to tell me a story when he was a POW. Some fighter had spotted a jet (and remember the sound of a jet was totally unknown to him at the time) and was heading towards it when the jet decided to go full speed to escape and basically left the prop fighter standing still. He was convinced that the war was as good as over at that point. Fortunately, it was not.
Chuck Yeager truly is the legend of legends.
Now, can we get a Biographics video on him?
@@johnkrall6793 yes.please.
RIP Mr Yeager
The fact that the developers of the first jet engines became friends following the days of the war made me smile.
the passenger what? *I NEED TO KNOW SIMON! YOU CANT JUST END THE VIDEO LIKE THAT D":*
The passenger fighter jet 😂
The passenger bus.
Pigeon
The passenger had to clear customs and immigration in Atlanta and just missed the connecting fligh...
@@jonrolfson1686 ahhh kk makes sense
66 years from first flight, to man walking on the moon.
Epic progress!!! Was going to comment this, but you beat me to it
I'd have to say the ME 262 was my favourite aircraft of all time, & definitely for ww2 combat aircraft. I was obsessed with making model aircraft as a child, specialising in mainly ww2 fighter & bomber aircraft I think I made 50 or 60 before I grew out of it ( sadly ), & the 262 was the only jet aircraft I included in this selection. I actually found the boxes I had them stored in the other day, ( some the worse for wear ), & the 262 was with them. Great video by the way, keep them all up, cheers.
5:49 "Every modern jet fighter..."
Simon seems full of smiles and energy, almost like he's had his daily dose of coca... cola?
Were also slightly cut short on the end but Its not ruining the video!
Allegedly
Allegedly
Don't forget his other source of energy that fuels him besides cocai... Magic Spoon cereal. Allegedly
@@sandybarnes887 hahahah this was perfect 😂👏
My great grandfather was a radio operator in a lancaster bomber and he remembered seeing a pair of me-262's. He got told about them but many pilots thought it was superstition and silly rumors.Then on one bombing mission the pilot and the navigator shouted him up to the cockpit to have a look, and their first reaction was "bloody hell thats a flying shark it looks beautiful!" They didnt attack likely because they were low on fuel or had ran out of ammunition, but I can imagine seeing a 262 back in 1944, would have been like seeing a spaceship. My great grandfather passed away in 2012 but he told me a lot of cool stories like this.
Even today this is a beautifully designed aircraft.
…it was a Revolution
RIP Chuck Yeager, i fee so honored to have sene him in person
The rim shot is spreading throughout the Simon Whistler Extended Universe.
I eagerly await the day they all perform a SWEU crossover.
@@russkii81 lol. Over his dead body I'd imagine.
Totally caught that.
Whittle's engine design was centrifugal and the German design is axial flow. In order to increase the power of a centrifugal engine you have to build it with a bigger circumference. While you can increase the trust of an axial flow engine in the same way, it is generally done by making it longer. This gives the engine more compressor blades. Virtually ALL jet engines are axial flow in design. Whittle's design was abandoned very quickly.
Apparently Whittle was aware of the axial flow concept and its advantages but went with centrifugal as it was a better design for the materials available at the time.
@@johnharrison6808 just remember that if it's not German,it must be 'Murcan,nobody else counts
@@stevenbreach2561 the American jets during ww2 where rubbish.
There's a messerschmitt in the garage. I'm gonna go clean it up.
I'm assuming the one you're talking about is a car...
@@sheevone4359 Messerschmitt didn't build cars.
@@draochvar9646 it did but it's not famous for it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Kabinenroller
It's got me beat why this isn't on the Mega projects channel.
The German engine was a superior design as it was of the axial airflow type rather than the more primitive centrifugal type of Whittle.
@Utrinque Paratus that was because germany didnt had acess to heat restiance metall
You are repeating a myth that has been perpetuated by the German engineering fraternity. Whittle's engines and the British centrifugal flow engines that were developed from it were simpler: however, they were far more reliable, had a better thrust/weight ratio, and were more efficient that the equivalent axial flow German engines.
No less important, they had an altogether better throttle response: for instance, if the throttle of a Jumo 004 was opened up rapidly, the engine was liable to surge and flame out. It is well known that Me262 pilots had to climb out to attack the B-17s on a fixed throttle setting. I've seen it described as a "tactic" by a modern-day German test pilot: it was not a "tactic", it was a necessity. The 262s were sitting ducks if caught by P-51s when coming in to land.
The axial flow engine was, of course, eventually to become the future. Please check the Wikipedia entry for the Metropolitan -Vickers F.2 engine, to learn how advanced Britain's axial flow engine technology was during the war.
Grahamj9101: That is some good information,yes the British jet engines were much more long lasting, if not mistaken, l think they loaned some to the Americans for their first jets.
@@skankhunt446Germany invented heat resistant Nickel alloy in 1932... they were a decade ahead of the Allies in metallurgy and engine development
@@grahamj9101Centrifugal compressor turbojet engines suffer from extremely low thrust to drag ratio performance due to their larger frontal area.
Axial Compressors are significantly more efficient than Centrifugal compressor turbojets which is why their are no supersonic aircraft to ever exist with one and why they are completely extinct in modern aviation.
A Jet Engine operates upon a Simple Four(that's 4) Step Principle:
#1- Suck
#2- Squeeze
#3- Bang
#4- Blow......
Any more Questions?
Chuck Yeager: "a bit of a badass." He shouldn't have lived to 97 to die at home in bed. Not that he didn't try. RIP.
Are you a Klingon?
I didn't know viking warriors used RUclips.
Please, go out and set the example.
@@livinginvancouverbc2247 I was an Aerial firefighter or ten years.
DC6/7's slimy red mud
on burning trees and all that. But I was referring to Yeager's l
Long life beating the odds-similar to my late father in law four bronze stars and a sliver . Normandy, StLo,
The Battle of the Bulge,
Aachen, Lubendorf Bridge, Liberation for Dachau. He also died at home in bed at 80.
He was hard to kill.
To elevate this from a “side project” to “MegaProject” you could have added the vast complex of facilities both above and below ground to support the development and construction of the 262.
MegaProject suggestion - Human Genome Project
Swear to Jebus, we can never get enough of this plane!
I was literally waiting for this video😃
The plane Yeager "shot down" was landing at the time, had to be done, but not what I would call a fair fight. I know, that's the best kind of fight in a war, but still.
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, then you haven't planned your mission properly." Col. David C. Hackworth.
@@darko714 Is it just me or do you watch a documentary or read about a conflict realize you find yourself rooting for the underdog or having hindsight wish they would have choose the other option, who knows if it would have changed anything, but Plan A didn't work out so well. I do it with WW2 and the Eastern Front. Big Picture, I'm glad the Nazis lost, they were some nasty people, but damn the Cold War wasn't a picnic growing up, I can still hear the "duck and cover" song, and thinking, ya, this is going to protect me homework in the desk then it will me. Didn't the Russians loose more men at Stalingrad the the U.S. did in the entire war ? That must have sucked, but so did hiding under my desk thinking they were trying to
kill me.
@@lawless201 I do find myself thinking of alternate outcomes had things been done differently.
Becoming an ace in this way would be the best possible outcome for my own safety. Not fair, sure, but it's war.
Absolutely agree another hollow victory. The American pilots had no chance against these machines unless they attacked them when they were taking off or landing. GTF Yeager
Trivia: In the Hidden and Dangerous 2 game (a gem!) the first set of missions is Operation Snowball, Norway, where your goal is to infiltrate a secret research facility where 262 were being developed. Inside you can find plans and there are plenty of wind tunnel models.
Awwww, Simon, caught ya Blazing! Clever animation.
I live about 15 miles from Chuck Yeager's home town. He died a couple of days ago. He was a real legend if there ever was one. He once flew a jet under a bridge here in Charleston WV, for some type of celebration they were having.
Is this going to re-uploaded with the actual ending????
1:15 - Chapter 1 - The origin of jet power
2:35 - Chapter 2 - From concept to reality
4:35 - Chapter 3 - Close to rocket science
7:45 - Chapter 4 - The birth of a new age
10:25 - Chapter 5 - High flying legacy
World War II basically “propelled” aircraft technology forward at an insane speed.
Excellent ending. Probably Simon's best cliffhanger yet!
RIP, Chuck Yeager. The fastest bad ass.
... or the _baddest fast ass..._
The total kills of all 262 units was 743 aircraft. Jg7s total was 502. 184 p51s and 50 mosquito night fighters were in the total.
26 Luftwaffe pilots scored Ace or higher in the Me-262 including the highest scoring jet Ace in history
A great airplane. .a superb design...and a very powerful warbird...besides...the first opetational jet plane ever...and at the time...UNIQUE...
Finally this guy is talking in a regular tone amd not a clown voice and hes not talking super fast either. I stopped watching his videos a while ago until I came accross this one. Hopefully he talks like this more often so that i can start watching his videos again
RIP CHUCK YEAGER. Legendary man from a legendary time. ❤️🇺🇸🙏🙌
My great grandmother was 93 when she past in 1996.
Born in 1903 she saw men dream of flight, learn to fly, flat across the country and then the seas.
She watched as the human race gained the ability to put a human being on the Moon.
The technological leap from non flight to flight was amazing.
To go from the Wright Brothers first flight to landing a human on the moon in one lifetime, is amazing.
I saw that! Where's Brian?! He's got to keep count!
Simon, my grandfather was born in Linz, Austria-Hungary in 1900. He really did see mankind go from horses and primitive automobiles on dirt paths to jet airliners and rockets that put men on the moon and a highway system in the United States that let you drive across the country in less than a week. All in his lifetime. He passed away in 1994, after falling and breaking his hip. My Mother just turned 97 last week. Hopefully this trend will carry on through the generations. I was born in 1950, during President Truman's administration, and here I am, seventy years later, about to usher in President Biden. I see in some of the comments about the passing of General Yeager. He, like myself and family, came from West Virginia. He, like my Mom, was 97. It must be the mountain air.
Do a video explaining what "begs the question" means and how people trying to sound smart use it incorrectly when they mean "raises the question".
@A H. Excellent observation: the mistake occurs frequently. Nice user-name initials, by the way.
The very existence of the Messerschmitt Me-262 is a humiliating slap in the face to anyone who still believed the Allies had superior aircraft... it's essential to slander and denigrate it at every opportunity.
The Eternal Question: Who has been in more videos: Simon Whistler or Indy Neidell?
Nice
I think it’s Simon since he has a playlist of 1,900 vids on this channel alone. We are the true winners though as all those hundreds of quality vids from both , mwah ✌️✌️
@@mammuchan8923 Indy Neidell tried the upper Pervitin for his video on Hitler's drug use. Can Simon Whistler's personal research beat that?
@@InternetDarkLord nope, Indy is the King! I mean he also does the research and writing, he’s a legend 🌟
10:49 -- The P-80 was deployed to Europe in very small numbers starting in late December 1944, in a developmental capacity similar to the way that the Germans deployed the 262 in Jagdgeschwader 7. By that time, though, there really wasn't any Luftwaffe to speak of, so the P-80 never saw action. But they *were* deployed.
Honestly, the P-80 would have been superior to the Me-262 or Gloster Meteor in WWII.
@@bkjeong4302 According to Chuck Yeager, the P-80s performance was virtually identical to the Me-262s.
The government will just look into the affair of the citizens.
Yeah I think government base on take the money and caring for there self only.
For me I just keep my hope on them I depend get my own Money by myself.
Investing is a nice idea of making it on your own.
I invest in cryptocurrency(bitcoin) and forex trading and things has be so better for me.
Yeah Cryptocurrencey is profitable when it comes in investing.
As a maintainer who works on jets the theory of operation can be simplified into a simple phrase "Suck, bang, blow"
_Compress,_ bang, blow, _blow some more._
The video needs a re-upload, the end is missing.......🤔🙃🙃😑
RUclips is so awash with channels posting ten minute videos feigning expertise on sometimes very complex subjects that the internet can now safely be declared dead.
I thought “our story starts in ancient Egypt” was going to be a troll but uhh.. nope
For comparison's sake, one Me 262 @ 87K rm was the equivalent of one Tiger I's original production cost of 88K rm. Those were extremely expensive for them to produce, specially since they were turning out Stug III's and Panthers for ~9-12K rm.
Wait, I thought it was a Blue Oyster Cult song....
from the album Secret Treaties
It a plane, but I came here to see if anyone would mention the song
@@skyonestar6941 Yeah, but I couldn't help myself plugging BOC.
@@highlanderknight A worthy cause
Fun fact, in the chorus of ME 262 there's a line that goes "junkers jumo 004", the junkers jumo 004 was the jet engine that propelled the ME 262.
They also say "Blasts from clustered R4M quartets in my snout", R4M where the machine guns on the plane, four of them were at the front of the aircraft (its snout).
BOC did their homework for sure
You touch on the lack of availability of heat resistant metals. They had an ME-262 on display at the Wings of Freedom museum, a small place on the grounds of the former Willow Grove NAS in PA. This was years ago. I remember the sign for the display mentioned engine life, it was incredibly short, if I recall the time between tear-downs was less than 10 hours to replace burner cans.
My father, who served in the Canadian forces, had a couple of interesting stories. During his time in England they would occasionally hear an Allied plane whistling overhead, but they could never catch a glimpse of it. Word soon got around that you had to look where the sound was headed, not where it was. Then they could catch a glimpse of a plane, a plane without a propeller! If they asked their superiors about this "plane without a propeller", the superior would simply say "You didn't see anything".
Another time he saw an Allied spotter plane, a plane like a Piper Cub. The spotter plane dove into a depression (like a quarry or small valley) and started circling tightly to stay in the depression. Moments later, a Nazi jet screamed over the depression, intent on shooting down the spotter plane, but he couldn't get enough depression on his guns to line up a shot on the spotter plane. The spotter plane popped out of the depression, only to find the jet still lurking, so he dove back into the depression. This game of cat-and-mouse went on for a few passes, until the jet running low on fuel headed for home. The spotter plane then popped out of the depression and simply went on his way.
Hey you stole that extended rim shot bit form the guy who dose Business Blaze.
They do like kind of similar...like cousins or something 😈
LOVE this channel! One of my favorites!
LoL that "ending." Did you guys update your Adobe software this past week or something? 😜
Simon Whistler: The Me-262 was the world's first jet fighter.
Heinkel He-280: Am I a joke to you?
Hi Michael
If i may add the He-178 , and Gloster E28/39
Best Regards
Actually the British created the first jet
Simon trying not to show too much absolute legend energy after the pun got a laugh out of me
$300,000?! Even if you multiply that by 10, $3 million for a bleeding edge jet fighter that had no completion whatsoever is bloody outstanding value for money!
1. This number is definitely wrong - using 1939 exchange rate 1$=2.5RM, so no way 87,000RM is $300,000, more like $30,000.
2. It's not really possibile to calculate the cost of ME-262 in 2021 money for several reasons:
Nazi Germany economy was centrally planned. Prices don't mean much when they are set by beaureucrats instead of the market. And there's inflation...but there's also wartime rationing (so the value of money is dropping, but the prices are fixed...but they are ultimately meaningless since you can't spend it anyway). Some of the inflation ja being exported to conquered territories with Germany forcing extorting exchange rates on the conquered people. They are also using slave labour, which only carries a small fee for the Ministry - but this doesn't really matter anyway since the company is de facto state-run.
Even if you do find a way to come up with a reliable figure in Reichsmark, there is no way to really convert this to 1945 US dollars - you couldn't buy any US dollars for Reichsmark. Trying to extrapolate from pre-war exchange rates won't work either, as this changed a lot throughout 1930s and would probably vary like crazy due to many aforementioned reasons+many more (MEFO bills, military RM and so on).
Long story short - WW2 equipment prices are meaningless, the only thing they can be compared to are other prices from the same era in the same currency - and even that can be misleading. So 87,000 Reichsmark is just that, 87,000 Reichsmark.
A Bf-109 cost something like 56,000RM. A Tiger tank - about 800,000
I'll always love my grandpa he was almost of military age during the Spanish-American War. He served in the Cuban occupation Army at the end of the Spanish-American War. He was alive during the first moon landing and thought it was just another science-fiction program. He was a little resistant to the idea that it was real but at least he had a good excuse, not like the confused and disorientated young people that claim we never went to the Moon.
FWIW: My Mom & Dad were born in 1919 and 1917 respectively. {Both of them are gone now.}
I was probably aware of this when they were still living, but I wonder now how AMAZING all the aeronautical developments of the 20th and early 21st centuries must have seemed to them.
I remember being amazed at the Apollo moon landings -- I was 8 years old in 1969 -- but to my parents' generation, it must have REALLY seemed like science fiction come to life.
Even now, thinking of my daughter {in her mid-30s} and especially my grandson {now 10} the availability of electronics, the internet, and instant communication worldwide -- compared to what was available when I was younger -- in a way seems like science fiction to me
Such a beautiful plane. Nice pic of Whittle using his pocket calculator!
The Heinkel He 280 was the first turbojet-powered fighter aircraft in the world. It was inspired by Ernst Heinkel's emphasis on research into high-speed flight and built on the company's experience with the He 178 jet prototype. A combination of technical and political factors led to it being passed over in favor of the Messerschmitt Me 262. Only nine were built and none reached operational status.
Chuck Yeager passed away earlier this week or late last week at 96 I think.
97 and on pearl harbor day I believe. We lost a legend 😢
@@StuckOnAFireHydrant absolute legend
The USAAF dealt perhaps the biggest blow to the Me-262 without even realizing it. The Messerschmitt Works at Regensburg had almost finished the tooling to build the Me-262 in early August 1943. When the USAAF bombed Regensburg on 17 August, 1943, they devastated the Messerschmitt plant - no Me-109 fighters would roll off the line until January 1944. But unbeknownst to the Allies at the time, it also destroyed the production tooling for the Me-262, delaying the start of production for months.
the world's first operational jet fighter is still one of the most beautiful
first operational yes but only 3 months before the Gloster Meteor, but the first ~completed squadron was meteor before me 262...
That drum roll, slowly all Simon's channels are becming various levels of the Blaze.
9:30 …ironically here…the first human to break the sound barrier was likely a German pilot flying a 262… read about Hans Guido Mütke . Wikipedia has a page on him, plus his 262 still exists in a Swiss air museum.
+ Hertzair Hans Guido Mütke entered a dive and reached transonic buffeting and then regained control in denser air. Not controlled supersonic flight.
Chuck Yeager would confirm Mutke's story with his own experience of passing though his shock wave...
@@FiveCentsPleaseNot so fast, Mutke's story is credible and is not at all like many other false claims of supersonic dives... the Me-262 was actually wind tunnel tested to speeds of Mach 1.4 and Mutke used the Me-262's analog fly-by-wire Horizontal Stabilator to counteract the effects of compressiblity and Mach tuck.
Von Ohain taught propulsion at the University of Florida in the 80's. I missed his class by one year :( but he did give a lecture on how he and a motorcycle mechanic friend developed this initial jet engine. It ran on gasoline and the first time they got it to for up he said it the flames 100' out the back! Great story and a cool memory. He passed away in 1998.
Max Hahn was an engineer and the Master machinist at reknown _Bartels und Becker_ racing engine specialist, he is the nephew of Nobel prize winner Otto Hahn, the Father of Nuclear Chemistry.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Thanks for that! Really interesting. Amazing minds.
Simon Whistler another great channel 👍👍🤣🤣!! GODSPEED ..
Awesome video thanks for knowledge
The big advancements of the ME-262 was the use of axial compression engines and the swept back wings.
The British used centrifugal compression engines which wouldn't scale up easily to more powerful engines. The axial compression engines have been scaled up to 100,000 hp in the Boeing 777.
Almost all modern twin engine jet transports use axial compression engines under their swept wings just like the 1944 Me-109.
No mention was made of Dr Anselm Franz, the creator of the Junkers Jumo 004 axial compression jet engine, which was one of the great engineering achievements.
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Besides not having good high temp materials for the jet engines, the Soviets over ran the Romanian oil fields in August 1944, which was the main supply of German oil. The Germans made about 1,000 Me-262 jets but could only get about 30 in the air at one time.....no fuel.
no junkers jumo but BMW 004...Axial compressors was MUCH more difficult to built and to design, in ww2 was the centifugal compressor totaly logic (was use up the the year 2000 in the RR Dart turboprop) and germans had no kerosene problems but high grade gasoline problems...
Excellent...You got it right....Thanks
Side Projects should have a Business Blaze format, we need more uncensored Simon
Having done some research, I have to correct my comment of a year ago: the Me 262 was NOT the first jet fighter to enter operational service - the Gloster Meteor was.
A trials unit was formed in April 1944 for test flying of the Me262 and the training of Luftwaffe pilots. In July, an Me 262 of that unit reportedly damaged or downed a reconnaissance (unarmed?) Mosquito. Whilst this action might have been the first time that a jet fighter had fired on an enemy aircraft, it cannot be considered as 'operational service', as the trials unit was not an operational squadron.
The Mosquito was effectively a 'target of opportunity' and presented itself for live gun firing trials. The Me 262 did not enter squadron service until August 1944 at the earliest: however, some sources give the date as October 1944.
And what of the Meteor? A so-called Tactical Flight was formed in May 1944, the equivalent of the Me 262's trials unit, and the Meteors would have used towed targets for their live gun firing trials. The Meteor was released to squadron service in July of 1944. 616 Squadron was credited as downing 13 or 14 V.1 'Dooodlebugs' in the following weeks.
Unfortunately, there is absolutely no truth to this popular British myth. The Me-262 was transferred from RLM testing and entered operational squadron service with the Luftwaffe on April 19th 1944... and shot down its first RAF plane just 1 day before the Gloster "Meatbox" entered squadron service on June 27th, 1944.
The Gloster never saw operational RAF service as a fighter... and it only killed British pilots during the war.
890 would crash killing 450 RAF pilots..
Never ever lose your passion for explaining Simon 👏👏👏
Simon: 'In just fifty years went from not flying all all to flying supersonic.' Bascule(paraphrase): 'In just sixty years we went from not flying at all to playin' golf on the bleedin' Moon.'
Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star was an American jet fighter build in 1943, two of the planes were used in reconnaissance in the italian theatre. It was also one of the first production model planes to have the jet engine within the fusilage.
yep was not possible to put a german engine in the fuselage because did overheat and only 1 engine was far to weak , but the first P80's had many engine issues...
This is a very Blazey Channel.👍👍👍
The 262 was employed as an interceptor and bomber.
Whittle is the only one who should get credit. Ohain was in possession of Whittle's PATENT DOCUMENTS when designing HIS engine.
The Shooting Star was mentioned byt not the first American jet plane Bell's Airocomet
Neither American jet saw operational service as a fighter aircraft during WW2.
Great content Simon as usual, one small error however is that the ME262 ran on jet fuel, which is very similar in composition to kerosene.
Which ironically is the one thing that Germany had an abundance of.
Germany made fuel from coal as import of fuel was not possible during the war. The japanese used pine coal to make fuel for their zero fighters.
I guess you did not know Chuck Yeager died a few days ago. Another legend leaves us in 2020.
Also, the end of this video was, how should I say it, poorly edited?
Ok well that ended more abruptly than the ME-262
Technically the Gloster Meteor was the first jet and not the ME-262. The Gloster Meteor can claim to be the first jet fighter to enter operational service, while No.616 squadron of the RAF was the first operational jet fighter in the work. The first fully operational Me 262 squadron, Kommando Nowotny, was not formed until September 1944, under the command of the famous ace Walter Nowotny, flying its first operation on 3 October. www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_WWII.html#:~:text=The%20nearest%20No.,jet%20bombers%20attacked%20their%20airfield.&text=The%20Gloster%20Meteor%20entered%20service%20just%20after%20the%20Messerschmitt%20Me%20262.&text=616%20squadron%20of%20the%20RAF,jet%20fighter%20in%20the%20work.
Good video 👍
Chuck Yeager reference really cool.
As usual, excellent.
The Blaze boi had his brain blazed too hard. Thoughts and Prayers for Danny. #FreeDanny
Just found out a few years back you could start the Me 262 like a lawn mower. Pretty cool!
+ ufoengines The Me-262 Jumo engines are started with a 10hp petrol engine that is clutched to the turbine shaft.
@@FiveCentsPlease Still think the idea of some poor ground personnel guy yanking away at the balky starter starter of a Me 262 as a formation of B-17's is cursing over head to a distant target would make a cool scene in a movie .
@@FiveCentsPlease Here's a you tube of a handed cranked copter ruclips.net/video/Q-0-adBixos/видео.html The Do 32 tip jet copter was started like this as well. Pretty cool! I was into the idea of a kit tip jet copters but have since gone with Bruno Nagler's ideas.
@@ufoengines The two-stroke engine on the Jumo turbine also has an electric start option that the pilot can operate from the cockpit. The pull start is an option for the ground crew.
Thanks bro
This plane could certainly be effective enough. My uncle was a navigator on a B-24. His plane was knocked down by an ME-262. He spent the final 6 months of the war as a POW.
Dont know why but i need to know what is the bomber on 8:36
Total megaproject amazing