5 of the Most Expensive Military Craft Ever Made
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Hmm. I wonder which country loves spending oodles of dollars on wildly expensive military machines?
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I know it was just a slip of the tongue, but the Poseidons were sold to SOUTH Korea, not North.
I'm sure Kim is still anxiously awaiting his Amazon package
Thanks, I was just about to look that up. I hope the U. S. wouldn't sell a cutting-edge sub detection aircraft to NK but I confess, given some of the stupidity I've seen from Washington, it would only surprise me a little.
@@itsapittie we supply isis already so i wouldnt be at all surprised
that gave me a heart attack
The North Koreans probably wouldn't know how to operate it anyway.
@@RexMontis71 no, they would, at least the crashing part
Now do a least expensive! What is so cost effective that it is mind boggling
Army infantry? Field fodder for the modern age.
Trumps pee pee tape is Putin's best investment ever. 😬😳
Fear of unknown threats at all time is very cost-effective. Think ied, boobytraps. Least expensive? Hmm sharpened bamboo smeared with excrement? Let me know your idea's.
The military can’t even get a discount on post it notes. They require so many extra quality control checks and paperwork for anything cost effective can’t be done.
A-10 warthog
chipped beef.
North Korea? Wha...
Exactly. Must be 'South-Korea'. Also Simon's voice gave away that he personally wasn't sure if this was correct (I presume he just reads the texts and doesn't do the research himself).
@@henkdouma8448 Yep, South Korea ordered six.
He reads autocue as a job. Sometimes quite badly.
I heard North Korea bought one and used it to execute their finance minister
Simon don’t do research himself and actually have poor knowledge of most things he covered. The research team aren’t much better
14:03 wrong Korea mate.
Hahah true.
I hope south korea. Lol
I hope he meant South Korea there?
@@kevinb1574 it has to be. I've seen it with south korean flag while flying in and out of Gimhae international airport, which also serves as an airforce base apparently since ive seen lots of jet fighters around
I sure hope so!!
I remember years ago when it came out in a budget review that the US Air Force was spending $500 each for a toilet seat in their bombers and everyone was making fun of them. Later on it was revealed that money and funds for this and other “frivolous” items were secretly going to fund the F-117 stealth fighter.
DF: Your memory is faulty, and the story is misleading. The "toilet seat" was for a USN patrol plane. Despite the news stories and photos, the actual procurement item was NOT an ordinary toilet seat but an entire assembly for the toilet that included a structural panel about 3ft x 4ft, strong enough to hold the weight of a person, and included an ordinary toilet seat. The contract was competitely bid. The navy was only buying nine (9) assemblies per year, and each assembly was hand built. The assembly was built to aviation standards. How much do you think it would cost for you to buy such an assembly?
@@KB4QAA Thanks for getting that right. I appreciate having correct information, and it sounds like you know what you are talking about. I believe I read this account in Time magazine, it apparently they were misinformed. I do think it is probably true that “cost overruns” were going to fund black projects, as was reported.
@@drferry "Ask the man who has flown one (toilet cover assembly)". :)
@@drferry One other point. Secret or "Black" programs in the military, NSA, CIA are not listed in the published US annual budget, but the money must be hidden somewhere. Often this is done by 'padding" other unclassified programs. Consider that the next time you hear about the $500 hammer, coffee pot, etc. They may be ordinary budget items that have an inflated 'price' as cover for something else. Cheers.
That is how a lot of unpopular federal programs are funded: the diversion of money is hidden under the blanket of "national security" where even many in congress don't have the need to know. It's illegal and rarely--if ever--enforced.
Writer slipped in "North Korea" to see if Simon was paying attention... and he wasn't :-)
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At 10:10: Says M1 Abrams, shows a self-propelled howitzer.
Looks like a Dutch-operated German-built Panzerhaubitze PzH 2000....
@@NuclearSavety the Dutch use the PzH 2000? I thought after they sold all their leopards they switched entirely to the Boxer-Platform, which is also capable to operate as artillery
@@DefinitelyNotEmma wiki says 24 or 26 (depending on article language) PzH2000 in active duty in the netherlands...
@@NuclearSavety hmm oki, my bad than, greetings from germany :D
@@NuclearSavety its an M109 Paladin self propelled howitzer
9:56 lol I've been one of those guys. Pull your ruck out from under the seat and put it on your lap and you can learn forward and sleep in relative comfort. Particularly on a long flight.
While talking about the P-8 Poseidon being based on the 737-800 you show a picture of a 737-100 lol
737-800 body, 737-900 wings. And it's a NG class 737.
@@wmarkwitherspoon what are you talking about?
@@geemanbmw the airplane, LOL
Virginia class is actually a cheaper improved alternative to the Seawolf class
I would give Simon some sweet watch time for a Sea Wolf Video
The Zumwalt or LCS would be much better US Navy programs to include here.
@@paulfrantizek102 Well they will most probably find a use for the Zumwalt but the LCS... They have to be two (two classes) of the most expensive and useless weapon systems ever created.
www.defensenews.com/naval/2020/12/15/the-us-navy-is-investigating-a-potential-lcs-class-wide-design-flaw/
I was going to say the same thing. The reason why we have the Virginia class at all is because the Seawolf class was so expensive it was cancelled after three vessels. It was deemed they were to expensive with the Cold War ending.
Yeah no kidding. They must have looked at overall program budget and not individual unit cost. Cuz seawolf was expensive. With only like 3 ever built.
Simon, your cost figure for the Virginia-class is incorrect. Block I and V boats are about $3 billion, but Block II, III, and IV boats were shaved to about $2 billion each through cost savings and increased production rate allowing for process changes.
So, yes, a nuclear attack submarine costs almost as much as a single B-2. Ah, the wonders of economies of scale.
Ya and Carter is more expensive yet good luck figuring it out though.
Virginia Class in no way deserved inclusion in this list. It's actually a model for a cost effective program.
@@paulfrantizek102 totally agree seawolf was way more expensive an Carter even more
@@watomb Zumwalt and even LCS will prove to be far greater boondoggles as well.
@@paulfrantizek102 USS Zumwalt will be retired as fast as possible just like the LCS ships.
A few years ago the door to a random office was left open and Simon wandered in, sat down, and just started talking...he's been going ever since.
Think for a second about the first F22 being built in 1996 just how advanced they were for their time when they are still so good today.
Alternate title, "How the US spends so much on it's military"
More like how much the us wastes on military
@@spritemon98 Considering the US fields the most powerful military in history while only spending 3.8% of its GDP I would say it is money well spent. especially with the threat of China growing each day. I would however agree that the budget could be spent more efficiently.
@@jimmefz3328 how much is that over the course of 20 years? While fighting in several wars?
@@jimmefz3328 You have to wonder though - How did Russia come up with a Hypersonic Missile with a Budget the size of the coins found in the Pentagons couch cushions?
I think U.S. government do not want to stop spending on military because these are the only jobs corporation can not outsource to other countries. It seems it has nothing to do with capability. No country is even close enough in current U.S. weapon technology and may not be able for decades to come.
The US Space shuttle needs a spot on this list - Air Force was a major funder for the project and the shuttle blueprints were modified to enlarge the cargo bay to launch intel satellites and yes it was cable of "space - Launch" Nuclear weapons delivery
Atleast we got a lot of use out of the shuttle. Can’t say the same for the upcoming SLS. What a huge money sink..
@@theluftwaffle1 I got to the see the shuttle crawler in 2017 after it was modified for SLS use when I was visiting NASA - it's about 30% larger now
An idea for a side project or even a mega project is the USS Jimmy Carter with it's extension. It's a one of a kind submarine.
Could do Ponce and Halibut too. More info on what they actually did. Jimmy Carter is doing research and there is absolutely nothing to see here.
The Virginia class subs were also built in Groton Connecticut. I worked on the Virginia there.
History of the New York City aqueduct system for Mega Projects!!!!
Reminds me of one of my favorite “Toast of London” voiceover scenes...”Fire the nuclear weapons!” Where Toast says it multiple ways to appease the military leaders in the studio. Cracks me up every time!🤣
'I've just unleashed Armageddon!'
@Clem Fandango Man I loved that show haha. Should have done more seasons. Also, I'm pretty sure the actor that played your namesake is/was on star trek discovery.
Seeing the B-2 fly just looks smooth
The funny thing is that the shape is inherently unstable and a human would never be able to fly it even in a perfectly turbulence controlled environment. The flight computer basically takes the pilots input as "an expression of intent" rather than actual flight control while staying busy saving the day with upward of a thousand corrections per second.... so yes, it's amazing that it looks like it glides stoicly like an eagle.
This is how episodes are developed: In Simon’s writing room are 4 stacks of cards. The stacks labeled NUMBER, ADVERB, ADJECTIVE, and NOUN ... (picking two Adjective cards is allowed if necessary).
Awesome video, really enjoyed this one.
Another great show Simon!
North Korea got a Posidon???
I heard North Korea bought one and used it to execute their finance minister
The South has 6 of them and 18 ordered. Danny living in the basement has lost a handle on cardinal directions.
North Korea is going to be sorely disappointed after watching this video, and not receiving any...
My favorite list in this series so far thank you guys!
Please make another version of this video, this time considering military craft from all ages...prices adjusted. Would like to know how US military spending comparies to ancient Roman. Might be quite a challenge to get proper data though ;)
Apparently chariots were heckishly expensive back in the bronze age. This was before they had bred horses big enough to ride on (and before the invention of stirrups), so you had to have multiple horses pulling a chariot if you wanted cavalry. But chariots took skilled craftsmen ages to build, and training the horses and charioteers took years. In relative terms they were probably as expensive as fighter jets are today.
Not England, it's the UK, more specifically the RAF flying out of Scotland for ASR and watching 'lost' Russian ships..
Yeah I was about to say that you’d think a British man would know better it’s normally only foreigners and especially as they are flying out of Scotland
the A-10 Warthog would be an interesting topic
It's my favorite aircraft, I would love to see that. Very possibly in the top five purpose-built airframes of all time.
1:25 The design and construction was a joint venture, the engine and control rooms were built by General Dynamics Electric Boat in Groton, Connecticut. The nuclear power plant, final assembly and testing were alternated to either facility depending on the boat, the rest of the sub was manufactured in Newport News, VA.
"Sir, is that a 737 on radar? IS IT FIRING MISSILES AT US?!"
The B2's 2 billion price point was less to deal with cost overruns and more to do with project downsizing.
Originally we were going to order 100 of the craft to deal with those pesky Communists. However when the USSR collapsed, that order became just over 20. This resulted in the mass production cost efficiencies to never be reached, and for more of the development cost to be shoved onto the 20 remaining craft.
That's true of most of these projects. They're always on the budget chopping block. In my time at NASA, I saw that happen several times, most notably the ISS.
Very well put.
A sad death spiral...
Same happened to Concorde.
That's how these projects often go. They cost too much, so they cut the project in half. Then someone a year or two later goes "Hey, the price-per has gone up by 35% now, WTF?!". So they cut it in half again. And then a year or two later someone goes "Holy crap, the unit-cost on these are EVEN MORE expensive now, WTF?!?" So they cut it further.
And then, to make matters worse, you then end up with so few of the things that the military is hesitant to actually USE them for fear of losing one -- see B-1B, B-2, F-22, etc.
Not that there's not plenty of examples of truly legitimately stupidly expensive things out there. But the B-2, for as cutting-edge as it was, really wasn't THAT far over-budget.
Loving the spin of channels, and the office is lookinggggg schmickkkk.
Love ya S.W.
We all do!
Love your videos guys please keep it up.
I also love all of his 12 channels
C-17 can carry an M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank
*proceeds to show an M109 Paladin*
When you're spending out of someone else's wallet;
"So how much will these cost?"
"Yes."
"Great, we'll take 1,000 of them!"
I would love to see a side projects about Rob Moses building the expressways in New York. It's a pretty entangled story about urban planning.
North Korea....Wait....What the....?
North Korea!!!
That’s a very clever way to get some comments Simon.
Check if anyone is paying attention.
Great video!
The RNZAF still flies Orions from the air base near my house... I haven’t seen any Posidons? Perhaps they haven’t been delivered yet.
1:20 - Chapter 1 - Virginia class submarines
4:50 - Chapter 2 - Northrop grumman B2 spirit
6:55 - Chapter 3 - F2 Raptor
8:45 - Chapter 4 - C17 Globemaster III
11:20 - Chapter 5 - P 8A Poseidon
Military Industrial Complex at it's best.
As a native of Virginia, I'm pleased you included the Virginia class submarines in this video :)
I was recently looking into the Stirling engine and I think it might make an interesting video. It's old tech that has a lot of potential for the future, especially is stuff that NASA is working on.
I have flown on a p-8, the amount of electronics reminds me of submarines. I almost said semiconductor fabs, but they have floor space atleast.
I was a P3 sailor. After I got out I worked at EB doing electronics install on 688 boats. I seen the inside of many submarines both diesel and older fast attack. My oldest brother was a Chief Sonar Tech on the 650 Pargo. My brother in law was a sonar Chief on boomers. Once we met up in Spain went out and had a few beers and then went back to his boat and had the cook make bacon and eggs served in the Chiefs mess. I was only an E 5 but even some of the officers came in and BSd with me and a bunch came over to the Squadron and got the $2 tour. My brother got to go on a patrol.
Side projects would be the perfect platform for the C-27j. The newest ones go straight from the assembly line to the boneyard.
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Umm North Korea Simon? Me thinks someone's been smoking the wacky bacci again
Trolling to see who watches to the end I bet
Thats wacky tobaccy son...
He means South Korea surely.. Too much weed?
Weed is great
He did release four Business Blze videos in a row this week. He probably hasn't slept much. That product from Columbia that allegedly fuels his madness there can do that to you
How about a video on the waste of money on the Freedom Class ships. They are about 6yo and are being decommissioned.
The crush depth is not meant to be actually tested. It's mostly there for additional suspense when the sub is hiding from depth charges.
I'm hitting the point where I don't even need non-Simon youtube channels.
You sounded WAY too happy to say N Korea at the end there Simon...
Good job!
Wish I could have served on one of those Virginias. I served on the last 688 to be built, the Cheyenne and we didn't have nearly as many awesome features of the new boats.
Ok I had to look that up. I'm sure that was just a slip of the tongue. Great job as always
please cover the world largest steel plant in gwangyang next.
For a brief time, I worked on the P3 proposal. I had my doubts the Navy would want a slightly upgraded P3 which Lockheed proposed.
You should at least look at the USMC's EFSS program. I worked on the contract for nearly 10 years, thru a subcontractor. Developed by General Dynamics, the vehicle was designed to give the unpopular V-22 Osprey something to do. The EFSS vehicle was in development from the mid-90's until 2008, never met a single USMC requirement (when it failed, which it always did, project management changed the requirements), over-ran it's initial budget by hundreds of millions, and ultimately was never deployed by the USMC in it's intended combat role. Production ran from IIRC 2008 - 2009, the contract ended in 2015, and as of 2018 all the vehicles were in storage and scheduled to be scrapped soon as everybody forgot about them
I love this sort of thing
Pre-smashed that like button
Crush depth is NOT when the hull implodes, it's when the seawater systems can no longer handle the pressure and fail. (Burst)
The M1 Abrams Program as a whole is up there as well. EASILY over $70 billion spent over the years. Though with over 10k produced and basically sterling results the cost per piece is worth it.
A C-17 was just used to evacuate people from Afghanistan. Approximately 800 people were crammed on board. The controller congratulated the pilot for even getting off the ground.
12:28 I like how you're talking about a 737-800 but the image is that of the first generation 737-100.
Another day another Simon channel
Most of these military weapons were built under “cost plus profit” contacts. The More you spend the more you make. This is why contractors make planes barely fly, ships barely sail and $ 40 dollar ear plugs don’t block damaging sounds. TK
Side Project idea: Tunnel Boring Machines (Mega Project?) are fascinating pieces of machinery. But any kind of machine has the potential to break down, and if that happens to a TBM while in the middle of boring a tunnel, what then? You can't drive them in reverse... Seattle had to answer that question when "Bertha" started breaking down after having practically just gotten started on the Alaskan Way/SR99 replacement tunnel.
Megaprojects- Washington State has several of the biggest/longest floating bridges in the world (#1 - 3, #5 iirc).
Good job
Simon... What about the "other New York Subway" the one mentioned in Ghostbusters 2???
Top Simon Whistler starring videos.
----intro to, "How big is a raindrop?"
Back in the 1920s the British Royal Navy Admiral Class Battlecruiser HMS Hood was the most expensive warship constructed at the time at over 6 million pounds
The F-22 certainly is costly, but damn if I wouldn't want to be flying in one of those!
The problem with the per unit cost of military projects is that, in the case of the B-2 and the F-22, is that they weren't produced in high numbers. The original order for the B-2 was for 150 airframes, but the order was canceled, I am not sure the original order number for the F-22, but it is the same story thanks to Congress balking at the cost during briefings and not factoring in that the per unit cost would go down with the more aircraft there were, which would also help with the per hour cost since there would be a better supply chain for parts.
Thank you
Hey now! What's going on around the 4 minute, 25 seconds mark with the disrespect to the F-111 Aardvark/EF-111 Raven? From what I have heard over the years, both variants did quite well at their respective missions.
In regards to the F-111, some quite groundbreaking technological advances in its day, not the least being the terrain following radar (TFR) navigation/autopilot/bombing system.
What other plane can boast of an ejectable cockpit that can serve as a lifeboat? Oh sure, the XB-70 Valkyrie and B-58 Hustler had ejection capsules that would serve as a lifeboat (lifecanoe?) but not the entire cockpit structure. 🙂
I worked on FB-111A avionics for a few years. Super-precision bombing was it's main strength. Aardvarks won the SAC Bomb/Nav competition for a lot of years in a row. Also, F-111s actually killed more tanks than the A10's did in the Gulf wars.
@@mountvernon5267 See? That's what I mean. I don't recall hearing any serious negative commentary during my military days or afterwards.
Unlike the F-16 Lawn Dart and our favorite plane to mock: the F-35 "all singing, all dancing" Lightning II (that's a 2 for those who don't know Roman numerals).
@@pauld6967 There were some early, well-publicized problems when they were first put into the field. After those were taken care of it was a relatively safe aircraft. I worked on all of the main systems - TFR, attack RADAR, Doppler, astronavigation system (tracked stars), inertial navigation, flight control computers, etc. It was all pretty leading-edge technology, for its time. Now you can get micro 3-axis accelerometer with gyroscope boards for use with an Arduino or Raspberry Pi that are more accurate, and a tiny fraction of the cost (under $20) of the old 75-pound beasts.
@@mountvernon5267 ah yes, the modern advances in technology are wonderful. However, we wouldn't be here now without those initial baby step breakthroughs. So kudos to the pioneers. 🙂
The Nimrod MRA4 debacle would be worth a video
Have you covered the Astute class sub yet?
Simon: The USA is selling military aircraft to North Korea
Everyone watching: whaaaaaaat?!?!?!
*looks up
And it’s South Korea
But what about MPF ships and Logistics Over the Shore (LOTS)? Things like the US Army Trident Pier and the Navy's Modular Causeway System. They were somewhat expensive but are REALLY expensive to move.
The reason many of these programs were so expensive on a per unit basis is because they were developed during the end of the Cold War and many more units were envisioned. With the fall of the Soviet Union, such large production numbers were no longer needed, were tapered back, and thus the research and development could be amortized over far less units.. actually... almost every craft in this video was impacted by this exact thing. Take a look at when they went into production.
The C17 looks huge...until you back an RG33 into one and then the ramp looks tiny.
This video be like: this is where ur tax money goes to
For this video it may have been more appropriate to cite the Seawolf class submarine (which is between the Los Angeles class and the Virginia Class) considering the development cost versus the number of them that became operational.
I would also say the upcoming Columbia class submarine deserves the title of "newest" submarine. ;-P
Have you ever do a vedio on the A10?
Most powerful lasers in research, military land, sea, and air based, construction, consumer, lidar in cars and mobile phones, etc. Stanford SLAC is a 2 mile long X-ray laser used for making movies of molecules.
you should do a side blaze too
7:19 What is that funky little music in the background. During the F-22 story. It is barely noticeable but is it some mind bending technology? Something to brainwash with?
It's a synthesizer keyboard set to electric piano tone. So yes it is a brainwashing tool.
Having the best military in the world ain't cheap, but it's priceless.
I won't stop suggesting the F-111 as a video topic, so many incredible quirks and features
Another aircraft is the Australian developed E-7A Wedgetail
Also hell yeah, I love the C-17!
Number 1: Australian Army boots. When factoring in procurement costs, ongoing replacement costs and total lifetime disability payments resulting wearing the useless things, the ADF could've brought a couple of aircraft carriers.
Much good and/or funny information again. Thank you! But as a suggestion: Maybe you (all) could think more about the dramatic arc of your storytelling? Build towards the grande finale with the most expensive, egregious, insane, horrible, etc. things at the end?
Something on a multi-page-click-click-list from somewhere on the web came to my mind: The things that their inventors regretted. Number three was the atomic bomb, and around page six or seven was the Comic Sans font...
See what I mean?
I think Simon and co. are doing just fine on his approx. 142 channels. Why don't you just make your own playlist and go to settings and put it on autoplay. Or edit your own video to meet your needs. Simon has 142 channels to take care of he doesn't has time to take care of each of us individually just cuz we're lazy!!! LOL
@@WKRP187 Don't get me wrong, I very much like and enjoy everything Simon and the crew do. That's why I made a suggestion. A build-up, crescendo, rather than beginning with the biggest thing and then fading out. Book, film and music basics is what I'm saying...
@@kepanoid ... Well I guess that's where we differ in preferences... I just want to always be learning new things ... Give me the numbers the facts with a pic of a rotating plane and it's specs while you're telling me facts about it and it's as good as it gets for me. What your looking for is the "Grease" channel or even better "Cats:the musical" channel... LOL 👍
Does a Video on the Virginia Class being expensive. Clearly wasn't aware they replaced the Seawolf Class, as they were a much cheaper option. Hence why only 3 of the Seawolf Class Subs were completed. Oh and the Seawolves are even quieter and able to do more varied missions than the Virginia.
USA! Best (and most expensive) aircraft supercarriers, stealth bombers, stealth fighter jets, subs, destroyers, heavy transport aircraft, satellites....
Nukes! Don't forget almost biggest nukes!
And all for trying to bomb a middle-age guerillia into the stone age....
@@NuclearSavety - Better to prepare for anything too much rather than too little.
Simon.....
North Korea?
Hahah! Great video!
Hey Simon. It would be really interesting, if ya cover the 6.8 ammo and weapon competition us is doing right now ;)
should do some sideprojects about minor military tech such as midair refueling, or night vision etc
Do the "Most bang for your Buck (Dollar)". It would have to be the A-10 Thunderbolt 2, people want to call it the Warthog but that to me is dis-respective to the original Thunderbolt, originally made as a fighter but became an iconic ground support aircraft, similar to the British Typhoon which nowhere gets the love it deserves.
Image at 12:30 shows a 737-100 from back in 1967. The 737-800 is two generations newer and first flew in 1997.
These projects are important because they keep millions of people employed in the military-industrial complex.
Hahaha Hahaha, why we don't have free education and health care, speedy trains etc
4:27 "F one-eleven", not "F one one one"
Thing is, they dont really need half of this stuff. Like Simon says in the video, the B2's have barely been used