My Top 10 Favorite Ocean Liners

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  • @AlextheHistorian
    @AlextheHistorian  11 месяцев назад +4

    PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTING:
    This is a message for only a select few people about to comment: This is NOT a popularity contest between the these ships. Personally, Queen Mary is my favorite ship of all time, so it MAKES SENSE that I would have her as #1. I apologize if my mind is not a replica of yours and if my favorite ship is not your favorite ship. I'M NOT trying to make it seem like Queen Mary was better than any of them, nor am I trying to ignore the accomplishments of other liners. This video is not about "Top 10 best liners of all time", no, this is "MY Top 10 Favorite Ocean Liners". Just because Titanic or Olympic are not on the list doesn't mean I can't appreciate them or find them beautiful, it just means I have other ships I favor a bit more then them.

    • @jjsmith4829
      @jjsmith4829 13 дней назад

      i respect that this list is YOUR top ten list but I have to ask, why did the SS Normandie not make your top 12?

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  13 дней назад

      @@jjsmith4829 most people hate my answer to this question. But I have two criteria for what ship makes my "favorites list". Beauty & History. SS Normandie had a very very short history, by no fault of its own, but nevertheless there isn't much history of mention. As for beauty, I prefer ships with more subtle beauty, something as they say is "understated". I think of the Queen Mary as a woman dressed in a smart cocktail dress, ready for any occasion, but to me, Normandie is like one of those runway models dressed in something really silly and impractical that no one would wear to any occasion. Sure, the runway model is dressed in clothes designed by the world's best designers...but the funky clothes aren't something even most celebrities would wear. Therefore, the runway model arrives over-dressed to every occasion.

  • @adamhickey396
    @adamhickey396 2 года назад +28

    For me, RMS Olympic i is one of the most beautiful liners ever built. The open promenade on A Deck, the balance of the 4 funnels and two masts, the sheer and camber. Just perfection!

    • @musicauthority7828
      @musicauthority7828 2 года назад +2

      It was a sister ship to the Titanic and the Britannic they were almost identical. all the same length, and all with four funnels. there were very little differences. Titanic being the most oppulant of the three.

    • @cartermoth6447
      @cartermoth6447 Год назад

      @@musicauthority7828 Titanic's closed promenade deck made it the best looking out of the three ships in her class. It had real aesthetic beauty with a perfect balance from the bridge section all the way back to the stern.

    • @benzalkionium
      @benzalkionium Год назад +1

      Britannic also had the forward section of the promenade deck closed, same as Titanic.

  • @ExAnimoPortugal
    @ExAnimoPortugal 2 года назад +57

    I'm slightly upset that at least Olympic didn't make the list, but I understand this is your list and you have different takes than I do. Even my own top 10 ocean liners keep changing throughout the years! Titanic will always be my favorite, since she was the one that got me into ocean liners in the first place and just looks right in my opinion. As much as I admire the Cunard liners, for instance, there are always some minor details that put me off, like, as much as I love QE2, she doesn't have enough sheer. I also love SS France/Norway, but her breakwater looks like a snow plow. Perhaps if RMMV Oceanic ever had been a thing, I would have liked her even more than Titanic.

    • @Engineeringrocketry
      @Engineeringrocketry 5 месяцев назад

      same, though i prefer the normandie over the france/norway

  • @jvanhest
    @jvanhest 2 года назад +12

    I’m so glad the Queen Mary is finally getting it’s badly needed repair and restoration work. I love visiting her (even if only viewing from afar) when I am in Long Beach. She is so majestic and historically significant that it would be a tragedy to lose her.

  • @matthewmutchman6360
    @matthewmutchman6360 2 года назад +13

    I'm glad to see Queen Mary 2 made the list! People tend to think that ship is ugly or "too much like a cruise ship", but I think Queen Mary 2 is much more that a boxy cruise ship. Queen Mary 1 is also my favorite ship!

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp 2 года назад +2

      QM2 is a very elegant and beautiful ship, especially by modern standards.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 2 года назад +27

    Alex, I can't say enough about your narration, information and use of old B&W photos and film. I was HAPPY to see you included RMS AQUITANIA, so underaided by so many. Thanks again for the HARD work you put into your videos.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +6

      Thanks Mike! Yes Aquitania is overlooked by many people

    • @jetsons101
      @jetsons101 2 года назад +2

      @@AlextheHistorian Did you get my email the other day? It's about a video on youtube that happened to show by chance the Aquitania in the breakers yard.

    • @emiliabusayong1102
      @emiliabusayong1102 2 года назад

      @@jetsons101 ok

    • @mrsponkman
      @mrsponkman 2 года назад +2

      Yes, The Aquitania is definitely my favorite ship. I wish it bridge looked more like the Olympic classes bridge but other than that it was a wonderful liner and a mighty steed.

  • @lewiscrow
    @lewiscrow 2 года назад +38

    Normandie would be my #1. Her aesthetic is flawless.

    • @berrydijkstra1980
      @berrydijkstra1980 Год назад

      This

    • @CoolTurtle999
      @CoolTurtle999 8 месяцев назад

      Same

    • @afm62
      @afm62 4 месяца назад

      I agree although my heart belongs to QE2. I have sailed on her three times and met my husband on a New York to Southampton crossing in 1976. ❤

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper 2 года назад +5

    Oceanic is my favourite :-) These pure sleek lines and huge funnels HMMMM wonderful!

  • @NickD7986-w5s
    @NickD7986-w5s 2 года назад +5

    im not suprised Queen Mary is your fav but i understand why she truly is a beautiful vessel (and i do strongly agree to your list)

  • @sidz0001
    @sidz0001 2 года назад +9

    My favourite liners
    1. Titanic
    2. Oceanic III
    3. Normandie
    4. Britannic
    5. Queen Mary
    6. Aquitania
    7. Mauretania
    8. Britannic II
    9. United States
    10. Bremen
    I know that Oceanic III was never built but if it would had, then certainly could be the best ocean liner till date.

  • @altermike3197
    @altermike3197 2 года назад +5

    Wow, I'm two DAYS older than Queen Mary 2... I take that as an honor

  • @chrisbutler7883
    @chrisbutler7883 2 года назад +12

    Wonderful list! I agree with many of the choices - certainly your number 1! Those who are casual liner fans might be surprised Titanic isn't number 1, but as you learn more she settles into her proper role as one of many beautiful ships. Many of your viewers will have their own favorites, and that's part of the fun. There's a lot to discover, and appreciate, in the history of the great liners.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes I once started out as a Titanic fan, the only ship i cared about was Titanic, but like you said, after you learn about more ships, Titanic settles into place

    • @user-iq1cx1ph3e
      @user-iq1cx1ph3e 4 месяца назад

      That got me me mad TITANIC ALL THE WAY

  • @mattperiolat
    @mattperiolat 2 года назад +10

    Nice to see some love for the Rex! Kind of a forgotten liner given she had such a brief run before the war. Kind of ironic that the Italian line should bet so heavily on two ships to be lost tragically.

  • @ashleighelizabeth5916
    @ashleighelizabeth5916 2 года назад +5

    A good list with some surprises to be sure. My list is as follows...
    1. SS United States, as the only great liner and only Hales Trophy winner to fly under the Stars and Stripes I have a special place in my heart for this beautiful ship.
    2. SS France circa 1960, the last of the 1000 footers, the last of the great French Line ships. She holds a special place for me because I actually traveled aboard her in her second life as SS Norway. It broke my heart to see her scrapped.
    3. RMS Mauritania, she and her sister Lusitania were the first of the quadruple screw turbine powered liners. She had a long and prosperous life and she is forever linked in my mind with Sir Arthur Rostran, who became famous as captain of the Carpathia during the Titanic disaster.
    4. SS Normandie, one of the most innovative ships ever built and certainly one of the most beautiful. She was tragically gone before her time, thanks to a fire during her conversion to troop carrier while in the care of the US Navy in early 1942.
    5. SS Il de France, innovative in a different way from the Normandie. The Il de France was the great divide in marine interior decorating. Period revivals had been the standard before she came on the scene but she established Art Deco afloat and became so famous for her interiors she created what some historians refer to as Ocean Liner Style interior design.
    6. RMS Queen Mary, a superlative ship for a superlative company. She would be the last Cunard, indeed the last British Blue Ribband holder and while I find her interior design and her exterior devoid of creativity or daring one can not argue with her long and illustrious career or her yeomen service as a troop carrier in WW2.
    7. SS Europa/SS Liberte, the ocean liner that refused to die. This ship sank at her fitting out birth just weeks before she was scheduled for her maiden voyage then sank again in Le Havre harbor after striking the submerged wreck of the SS Paris. But in both cases she was raised, repaired and put into service as one of the largest and fastest ships afloat. It was her and her sister ship SS Bremen who kicked off the second major round of Blue Ribband wars as she and Bremen finally took the speed crown back from the RMS Mauritania after an incredible quarter of a century as reigning champion.
    8. RMS Queen Elizabeth, the largest ocean liner ever built until the advent of RMS Queen Mary 2. Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary dominated the Atlantic in the last years before the advent of air travel and her end was nearly as tragic as SS Normandie, burning and sinking in Hong Kong harbor in the early 70s. On her maiden voyage she was captained by Sir James Bissett one of Sir Arthur Rostran's junior officers on the Carpathia.
    9. RMS Olympic, she led a far longer and more prosperous life than either of her tragic sisters and was certainly well loved by her passengers and crew alike. Now she is barely known to history outside of her connection to Titanic which has it's own kind of tragedy for such a fine ship.
    10. SS Andrea Doria, another ship who's career was tragically cut short in early middle life thanks to her collision with SS Stockholm. She was a beautiful ship inside and out and she was the first of the post WW2 Italian Liners.
    Honorable mentions... Ships that I love but which did not make this list include Titanic, Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, Rex, Aquitania, Paris, France circa 1910 and the original Oceanic.

  • @thejagotishow
    @thejagotishow 2 года назад +14

    Great list! Though I would like to correct a couple inaccuracies regarding Aquitania. Aquitania was launched on April 21, 1913, not April 21, 1914. She also isn’t considered a sister ship to Lusitania and Mauretania, but was just a running mate.

  • @The_Dudester
    @The_Dudester 2 года назад +21

    Trivia: Robert Reed (from TV show The Brady Bunch), out of his own pocket, took the "Brady kids" on the QE2 to England and then back again to New York. There were some shenanigans during the return trip. Read Growing Up Brady by Barry Williams.

  • @josegabrieldelgadoalonso487
    @josegabrieldelgadoalonso487 2 года назад +10

    My list:
    1- RMS Titanic
    2- RMS Olympic
    3- RMS Britannic
    4- RMS Lusitania
    5- RMS Oceanic
    6- RMS Mauritania
    7- RMS Majestic
    8- RMS Aquitania
    9- SS France
    10- RMS Carpathia
    11- RMS Queen Mary
    12- RMS Queen Elizabeth

    • @laylaleannejepson7
      @laylaleannejepson7 2 года назад +1

      The "Olympic class" at the top I see with the obvious being the favourite ❤️

    • @josegabrieldelgadoalonso487
      @josegabrieldelgadoalonso487 2 года назад +2

      @@laylaleannejepson7 Yea without question, I like very very much the design of the the Olympic class ships.

    • @laylaleannejepson7
      @laylaleannejepson7 2 года назад +1

      @@josegabrieldelgadoalonso487 yes they're beautiful 🙂

    • @normalcraftingtable7906
      @normalcraftingtable7906 2 года назад +1

      Mine is top 3 is
      1- RMS Lusitania
      2- RMS TITANIC
      3- S.S Andrea Doria

    • @silvertbird1
      @silvertbird1 Год назад +1

      Thank you for including Carpathia! She’s on my list.

  • @michaelwhalen2469
    @michaelwhalen2469 2 года назад +11

    Another fantastic video as always !! Kudos Alex !! Wonderfully written script and faultless narration.You put such emotion and loving care in your speaking voice!! The choice of photos and live action film clips was great!!! I applaud your choices. Ten Magnificent Ships !!! All beautiful and noteworthy!! I was pleased and surprised at the inclusion of one of my all time favorites, SS France (1912) !! A truly beautiful classy ship inside and out. So often sadly overlooked in a crowded field. PS. Everyone, these lists are always subjective, no matter who is writing them ! And this is America, where everyone has a right to express their opinions!! So Back Off trolls, haters and overindulged “ Helicopter “ children!! Anyway Alex , you rock ! And keep up the fantastic job!!

  • @silvertbird1
    @silvertbird1 Год назад +5

    That’s a respectable list. Such magnificent ships. I must say, my list would include Carpathia; not because she was a spectacular ship, but from what I understand she was a good ship, a trusted workhorse, helped Cunard reposition for solvency, and, of course, for another obvious reason. Watching this made me realize the British were not very good at naming ships in the later years. Four Queens, two with simply “2“ tacked on.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  Год назад

      The naming of Queen Elizabeth 2 was an accident. But it was a name that came to be loved and so when the next Queen Mary went into service, they wanted to remind people that she is merely named after another magnificent vessel.

  • @americanball3281
    @americanball3281 2 года назад +5

    Alex I also love the Queen Mary it is my favorite to

  • @TJH1
    @TJH1 2 года назад +7

    Queen Mary as number one, good man, I cannot fathom it being any other vessel. I LOVE the Queen Elizabeth but for all the history it has to be the QM.

  • @naomigeirises2895
    @naomigeirises2895 2 года назад +2

    I have been a ocean liner fun since second grade and I am still a big fan of ocean liners and I really appreciate that people make these kind of videos. everytime I watch these kind of videos I get to learn more ships and I feel inspired and I have my own ocean liner models and one day I hope to be a person like you Who inspires people like me

  • @danielintheantipodes6741
    @danielintheantipodes6741 2 года назад +23

    I like your list. Personally, I think the Titanic gets more coverage than it deserves, ironically, because it sank! These days, only people like us remember The Olympic, yet it was virtually the same design! Thank you for the video!

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +5

      I agree Daniel!

    • @frankcarino7643
      @frankcarino7643 2 года назад +4

      We all wish Olympic was turned into a hotel like the Queen Mary

    • @HyperVegitoDBZ
      @HyperVegitoDBZ 2 года назад

      @@frankcarino7643 Besides, Queen Mary was butchered in the end, so there's that. Plenty of people would like to see how the ship from 100 years ago looked like, but no, they went for easy way, just gut everything out and put big profit margins xD

  • @ginog5037
    @ginog5037 2 года назад +5

    Great list but I would of included the current Blue Ribbon holder the SS United States...

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii 2 года назад +1

      USS United States was the never-built super aircraft carrier that was almost built in her place. It's just SS United States for the passenger liner. XD

  • @jeffreycharles5035
    @jeffreycharles5035 2 года назад +4

    Whew I was getting nervous for a second that Mauritania wasnt going to make the cut but there she was at number 2!!

  • @Gabriel_Strelow
    @Gabriel_Strelow 4 месяца назад +2

    The Queen Mary is also my favorite ❤. The thing that matters the most for me is the interior of the ship, and even knowing that the Normandie was more luxurious, if I was to travel aboard her, I wouldn't feel confortable; and I don't say that because I don't like the Normandie, she is on my top 10, but for me a ship not only needs to be beautiful, it also needs to make you feel cozy, so that you can relax and have a good voyage

  • @TheGozalus
    @TheGozalus 2 года назад +15

    Just thought I'd share my list of favourite ships, in no particular order:
    1) RMS Titanic
    2) MV Britannic/Georgic ('30's)
    3) SS Rex/Conte Di Savoia
    4) SS Leviathan
    5) SS Paris (1921)
    6) SS France (1912)
    7) SS Andrea Doria
    8) RMS Lusitania
    9) TSS Normandie
    10) RMS Queen Mary
    And if I can add a couple more:
    11) SS Empress of Britain (1931)
    12) RMS Homeric (1913)

  • @FrancetheTitanic1912
    @FrancetheTitanic1912 2 года назад +5

    I love queen mary 💕

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 2 года назад +5

    Good list - surprising in part: in particular, my list would surely have included SS United States.

  • @leezinke4351
    @leezinke4351 2 года назад +5

    All of them looks very gorgeous!

  • @JohnJohnson-oe3ot
    @JohnJohnson-oe3ot 2 года назад +4

    I love the older German liners especially also :)

  • @SimonDman
    @SimonDman 2 года назад +3

    Number one Queen Mary Me: well that was not a Surprise.

  • @marcothalow
    @marcothalow Год назад +4

    RMS Olympic is my fav tbh. The fact she overlived her 2 younger sisters and have had a remarkable career during ww1 and just was scrapped because of the great depression makes it my nr. 1

  • @johnkoho1245
    @johnkoho1245 Год назад +2

    Queen Mary is the greatest liner to ever set sail. No other resumes come close...

  • @uniquely.mediocre1865
    @uniquely.mediocre1865 2 года назад +8

    My list... I favor 19th century ships
    10) RMS Titanic
    9) SS City of New York
    8) RMS Britannia
    7) RMS Mauretania
    6) RMS Persia
    5) SS Elbe
    4) SS City of Rome
    3) RMS Connaught
    2) SS Brother Jonathan
    1) SS Great Eastern
    If I was alloted an 11 and 12
    11) RMS Queen Mary
    12) SS Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse

    • @mrsponkman
      @mrsponkman 2 года назад +1

      19th century=1800s
      20th century=1900s

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад

      @MrSponkMan, what they were saying is that they favor 19th century ships, but that doesn't mean they don't have some 20th century ships on their list.

    • @uniquely.mediocre1865
      @uniquely.mediocre1865 2 года назад

      @@mrsponkman I'm aware... if you notice my list mostly contains ships from the 1800s, but that doesn't mean I don't love ships from the 1900s

    • @mrsponkman
      @mrsponkman 2 года назад

      @@uniquely.mediocre1865 No, im saying that some of these ships are from the 1900s (20th-century) and arnt from the 1800s (19th-century). You say that the the mauritania is one of your favorite 19th-century ships when it was actually built in the 20th century.

    • @uniquely.mediocre1865
      @uniquely.mediocre1865 2 года назад

      @@mrsponkman umm... both me and Alex have explained the misunderstanding... so if you still don't get it, reread what we said.

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 Год назад +1

    people overlook a lot of the smaller liners, especially some of the coastal liners a lot of which are still with us today.

  • @Jonathan07ta
    @Jonathan07ta 2 года назад +5

    My list:
    10.oslofjord (1948)
    9.ill de france
    8. SS france (second one)
    7. mauretania
    6. stockholm (not the one that collided with andrea doria)
    5.rms franconia (20s)
    4.stavangerfjord
    3.queen mary
    2.queen elizabeth
    1. ms oslofjord (1938)

  • @wildsmiley
    @wildsmiley Год назад +2

    My top ten favorite ocean liners:
    1. RMS Queen Mary (1936)
    2. SS Normandie (1935)
    3. SS France (1960)
    4. RMS Olympic (1911)
    5. SS United States (1951)
    6. RMS Queen Elizabeth (1938)
    7. RMS Mauretania (1906)
    8. RMS Lusitania (1906)
    9. RMS Caronia (1947)
    10. SS Nieuw Amsterdam (1937)

  • @A2Wx8
    @A2Wx8 2 года назад +4

    Oooh, a top ten ocean liners video, time to get angry! (clicks play) Actually, I like this list. It's unique, a lot of very atypical picks. Interesting choices for sure. I wish the original Queen Elizabeth got more love, she had some very pretty interiors but lived perpetually in QM's shadow.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +4

      Yeah I had never intended to make this video because I figured since Titanic wasn't on it, people would yell at me, but I knew I had a unique list and thought, hey people might like it! Yes I agree, Queen Elizabeth was marvelous

    • @A2Wx8
      @A2Wx8 2 года назад +1

      It's nice to see a list that is more than the same big famous ones everyone does and you certainly did your research picking some comparatively obscure ships.

  • @carol7311
    @carol7311 2 года назад +5

    This list is very interesting and each choice is a quick informative page
    My list
    10. Kaiser Wilhelm Der Große
    9. Andrea Doria
    8. Lusitania
    7. Aquitania
    6. Titanic
    5. Queen Elizabeth 2
    4. MV Britannic (1930s)
    3. United States
    2. Olympic
    1. Britannic in her WSL Livery

    • @carol7311
      @carol7311 2 года назад

      I'm serious I love RMS Britannic as she feels soo unique out of the Olympic trio. The pipe organ, the children's playroom,the new areas. I would've loved to see Britannic like that irl had she survived

  • @jessebechtold2973
    @jessebechtold2973 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I agree with you on the Queen Mary but for me Olympic would’ve needed to be on there somewhere.

  • @mateobrac2293
    @mateobrac2293 2 года назад +2

    Even one of the Olympic Class ships deserves to be on the list at least because of their unmatched design.
    In my opinion the wasn’t a ship designed as lineal, symmetric, simple and gorgeous as the Olympic class liners have been designed ever!
    Could cry that you didn’t included one of them 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +2

      It's just my list...its not like it was a list of the greatest liners of all time. It's a list of my favorites. The Olympic class are not my favorite

    • @mateobrac2293
      @mateobrac2293 2 года назад +2

      @@AlextheHistorian i respect that.
      Your content is great!

    • @sidz0001
      @sidz0001 2 года назад +2

      I absolutely agree

  • @Ryeliesalt
    @Ryeliesalt Год назад +2

    the queen mary 2 is my number 1 favorite ship because of the cruise-ship like looks. i rlly thought queen mary 2 was a typical cruise ship and that she was the only ocean liner in service till this day (2023) it came last week to my place in sydney like 2 weeks ago but i didn't have a chance to see it.

  • @paulhall2133
    @paulhall2133 Год назад +2

    Titanic or Queen Mary are tied for my favorite, Olympic, Normandy, SS Norway (France), and SS Rotterdam though would all be on my list too.

  • @user-qb1sb2vd4g
    @user-qb1sb2vd4g 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rms queen Mary is also my favorite since I heared about it in 2nd grade

  • @rmsteutonic3686
    @rmsteutonic3686 2 года назад +5

    Top 5 ships, cuz 10 is too hard
    5. USS Laffey
    4. Aquitania
    3. USS Missouri
    2. Rms Olympic
    1. USS enterprise (CV-6)

  • @masterskywalker7141
    @masterskywalker7141 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't blame the choice of choosing Queen Mary, afterall she was one of my favorites. Titanic is my #1 favorite mostly because of both the Movie and just how Beautiful she is. It was also my favorite childhood movie. Once again, i fully respect your opinion.

  • @Unownshipper
    @Unownshipper 2 года назад +4

    Your decision regarding Titanic might surprise some, but not me. In many ways, Titanic is more famous for her death than for her life. IMO a truly great ship is beautiful, dependable, and enduring.
    I give you full credit for citing the Oceanic on your top 10. It's a novel choice, I believe you're the first liner historian I've seen to do so.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Yes I agree about Titanic. People really only love it because it sank.

  • @1exmortal457
    @1exmortal457 Год назад +1

    I think my TOP 3 ocean liners would be QM, QE and Normandie, I love these fast and enormous ships with Art Deco designs.

  • @kaydenchan7093
    @kaydenchan7093 2 года назад +3

    1) MV QE2
    2) RMS Queen Mary 2
    3) SS Andrea Doria
    4) SS United States
    5) RMS Queen Mary
    6) RMS Olympic
    7) RMS Aquitania
    8) RMS Mauretania
    9) SS France
    10) RMS Titanic

  • @jansupronowicz1300
    @jansupronowicz1300 2 года назад +1

    Been on a QE2 cruise to the Norwegian Fjords. Marvellous experience! Once in my life I was able to see sun at midnight local time.

  • @civilizedorca
    @civilizedorca Год назад +1

    Queen Mary will forever be my favorite ship of all time. She was and is a work of art.

  • @pedenharley6266
    @pedenharley6266 2 года назад +3

    Wonderful video! I appreciate the brief history and curated photos and videos of each ship. Thank you!

  • @allidil9264
    @allidil9264 2 года назад +3

    What about the Carpathia , the famous cunard ship that saved the Titanic survivors ?

    • @allidil9264
      @allidil9264 2 года назад

      My favourite ship is the Carpathia 2th is the queen mary 3th is the Titanic

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii 2 года назад +1

      She was a heroic little ship, but still more than a cut below the dozens of superliners. But hey: if you have her as your number one, then nothing but absolute respect to you, because she deserves it. :)

    • @allidil9264
      @allidil9264 2 года назад

      @@Kaidhicksii yes, she is my no:1 favourite ship

    • @silvertbird1
      @silvertbird1 Год назад

      I love Carpathia, she’s on my list.

  • @Mars_plane_Channel
    @Mars_plane_Channel 2 года назад +7

    10.SS Rex
    09. SS New York
    08.Queen Mary 2
    07.SS Titanic
    06.SS Olympic
    05.Queen Mary
    04.RMS empress of Ireland
    03.SS Traffic
    02.SS France
    01. RMS Oceanic

    • @Eflgoat
      @Eflgoat 11 месяцев назад

      Whats ss titanic?

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  11 месяцев назад

      SS Titanic is the "maiden" name of RMS Titanic. If the Royal Mail ever breaks their contract with the ship, the ship reverts to SS.

    • @Eflgoat
      @Eflgoat 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AlextheHistorian ohhhhhh thanks

  • @deadlion9197
    @deadlion9197 2 года назад +3

    Awesome list! I sure wish there were more preserved, imagine the Aquitania or Olympic as a floating hotel somewhere. Well I guess the reality just makes the Queen Mary that much more special

  • @rd4554
    @rd4554 2 года назад +7

    @Alex the Historian great video as always! Just little corrections regarding the Rex: the Conte Di Savoia wasn't her sister ship, not at all. They were designed separately for two different lines (Rex for the Navigazione Generale Italiana and the Conte for the Lloyd Sabaudo), but these merged and the two rivals became running mates on the same route. Some key differences include the Rex being significantly larger and older in terms of interiors (Rex also was one of the last liners with a clipper stern while the Conte had a modern cruiser stern) and the Conte had much more modern interiors. The Conte had the innovative giro-stabilising system, which the Rex didn't have since they were two completely separate ships. By the outbreak of WW2 in 1939 until the Italian declaration of war in 1940 the Rex and Conte were some of the last liners still operating commercially between Europe and North America and a lot of Jews had escaped on them. By 1944, the Kingdom of Italy had already signed the armistice and joined the allies, but the Republic of Salo in the north, a puppet state of Germany, had both liners under control. Rex's fittings had already been looted by the Germans when it was probably being towed to block the harbour or to ground it, and thus it was sunk by RAF and SAAF planes.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +3

      I see. I found a lot of incorrect information. That disappoints me. Well this is why I tell people I never make a history video about a particular subject unless I've had several months to develope it, because when people ask me to do "quick research" this is exactly what happens. Well thank you for pointing these things out, I've just looked up a few different websites that confirmed your information

    • @rd4554
      @rd4554 2 года назад +3

      @Alex the Historian no problem at all pal! Unfortunately this is a pretty common misconception all over the internet and worse I have read entire books that copied and pasted wrong information from old Wikipedia articles (333 Schiffe, die man kennen muss! is an example), and there's little that can be done about that. If you're looking for great sources, I strongly recommend you read books by Maurizio Eliseo (by many considered one of the top historians in terms of ocean liners) or Paolo Piccione. They also help with a website entirely focusing on the legendary Italian liners, and it's called, you guessed it, italianliners.com, it's worth checking out. If you have any doubts, be sure to ask me, I'll help!

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +3

      Yeah I just found them when I was confirming your information

    • @rd4554
      @rd4554 2 года назад +3

      @@AlextheHistorian Magnifico!

  • @ManWhoLovesTheMary
    @ManWhoLovesTheMary 2 года назад +2

    It all makes sense now! I knew Queen Elizabeth's interiors were Art Deco...but something was off about that in my thinking. And now I can see the modernism in her design.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +1

      Yeah its actually quite fascinating to see the differences in their two Art Deco styles.

  • @Little_Blue_49
    @Little_Blue_49 Год назад

    Britannic is my #1 Favourite, she just looks so awesome

  • @sptownsend999
    @sptownsend999 5 месяцев назад +1

    My favorites are pretty similar, but 10 would be Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, omit QE2 and add a tie for 7 among all three Olympic sisters, omit SS France and add for 3 the SS U.S., and 2 would be S.S. America. Fun video!!

  • @aj41926
    @aj41926 2 года назад +3

    Just fyi.... the hikawa maru is also a surviving pre ww2 ocean liner. MV Astoria (formerly stockholm) is sort of still in service... it was operational up to covid, then was sold but hasnt started cruising again under the new ownership thus far

  • @thomasmitcham5196
    @thomasmitcham5196 2 года назад +4

    I had the privilege and honor to have sailed a transatlantic crossing on the Queen Elizabeth 2 and an eastern Caribbean 7-day cruise on the original France, then the Norway (bringing the entire family along). Another family cruise was aboard the Oceanic out of Port Canaveral, FL. Additionally there were other pleasurable times aboard the Rotterdam and Noordam. Finally, I was aboard an old liner, Veracruz, in the Florida-Mexico service. The 5-day crossing on the Queen Elizabeth 2 was magnificent: 5 days on the North Atlantic was a boyhood dream come true! Just an added note of interest, being a native Bostonian, I experienced the most rare privilege of meeting and chatting with RMS Titanic survivor Ms Eva Hart at the Copley Plaza Hotel around 4:00 PM, as Ms Hart related her experience as a girl traveling with her parents. Her. Mother and Eva watched from a lifeboat as the liner plunged beneath the icy North Atlantic, carrying Eva’s father to his death. Her words to me: “Tom, the one thing that has haunted me all my life - and will to my dying day, is how quickly the loud screams of 1,500 souls in the sea faded to an eerie silence! That silence forever haunts me!” ........(The Copley Plaza Hotel in Boston opened coincidentally in the year 1912, and is now the Fairmont).

  • @Sarasdad91
    @Sarasdad91 Год назад +1

    Gotta agree with you on your #1 pick. She was my #1 pick too. I love that ship.

  • @WyneSw2
    @WyneSw2 2 года назад +3

    I just realized the list of your favorite ocean liner was half of the Cunard ship 🚢

  • @alexandergroppe448
    @alexandergroppe448 Год назад +2

    Each of us have our own prejudices which lend our hearts one ship over the other. If both exterior and interior aesthetics were the most salient characteristics of the "best ocean liners of all time," I would place in the top positions: SS Normandie, SS L'Atlantique, SS France (II), RMS Queen Mary 2, RMS Titanic. The elegant, brilliant, and revolutionary design of Normandie is inescapable - revolutionary bulbous bow to balanced stern - unobtrusive funnel uptakes - prow to flagstaff - grand multi-story rooms hitherto impossible at sea - aesthetic glory both inside and out - affords her pride of place among all the great liners of the world's history. She remains the final COLLECTIVE word in maritime aesthetics, hotel, engineering, and luxury.

  • @Kaidhicksii
    @Kaidhicksii 2 года назад +3

    You did it! Yeah, your list was slightly surprising in some areas. Namely the inclusion of Kronprinz Wilhelm and exclusion of Olympic. The former is one I don't believe I've EVER seen on a top 10 before, fascinating a story as he had. And the latter, being Titanic's older sister aside, had one of the most legendary careers of any liner in history. But, I figured that she'd have to battle it out with Mauretania for the #2 spot, and I gave Mauretania the advantage. In other areas though, I wasn't surprised, least of all with your #1. Wonder who saw that coming. 🤣 But seriously, she's a solid choice, a solid ship, and I firmly back your decision. I think what it was about your list that amazed me wasn't so much who was on it, but more so in what order you put them in.
    As for my top 10, the list is likely to change a bit later, specifically near the end. It was near impossible for me to make such a ranking since there are so many liners I am deeply fond of, but I feel pretty comfortable with what I have as of now. The criteria here was basically which ships stirred my imagination the most. They are as follows:
    *1. Titanic -* Pretty obvious one, but for the life of me I just couldn't bring myself to replace her. Like many, she was the ship that got me into liners, and after an epic journey that saw me meet and learn about so many of the other liners, great and small, I still believe that she is the most beautiful vessel I've ever laid eyes on. What really draws me into her though is her character. I believe every ship has an individual personality and I'm sure you not only agree, but understand exactly what I mean. Titanic was supposed to be the greatest ship in the world, yet would've had the challenge of making a name for herself in the shadow of Olympic and then newer, larger vessels. Her sinking ensured she'd be in no one's shadow, albeit not the way anyone planned, and not only do I feel like I can just relate to her a lot, but I am also filled with the resolve to not let her sinking be what ultimately defines her.
    *2. United States -* If Titanic were to go on to live the life she deserved, the Big U would be in the number one spot. She's everything I could ever want in a ship: big, sleek, fast, blue _(even if it is just the tip of her funnels),_ built right here in the USA, an engineering MASTERPIECE, and all sucked in with gorgeous good looks. To put the cherry on top, she's also the first ocean liner I've ever come across in person. All in all, she is just awe-inspiring.
    *3. Queen Mary 2 -* I don't care what anyone says: QM2 is just as stunning a ship as all the old liners. Being the first ocean liner built this century and also a technological marvel in her own right, this one is an especially personal connection to me, as she was launched just mere months after I was born, and I feel both of us are partaking in the same dream to shoot for the stars and make history.
    *4. France -* The 1960 liner. She's just beautiful. She was the spiritual daughter of the Normandie and gave France one last chance at having a ship of state to behold. She served as the last hurrah for the Golden Age of transatlantic liners, and in her new, perhaps even more successful life as the Norway, she gave birth to cruising as we know it today. If it weren't for that boiler explosion, I'd bet you everything that she'd still be here today, and I'm honored that my life at least briefly intersected with that of this legendary liner.
    *5. Queen Elizabeth 2 -* There is perhaps no ship that I have watched more documentaries of and come back to repeatedly than the QE2. For a few years I was part of the online forum, The QE2 Story, the first online forum I've ever joined. And I couldn't stop asking questions, because this ship was the one that single-handedly saved the transatlantic run and design-wise, she was the biggest game changer of them all. For so many years she was the last transatlantic liner in service, and if fate would've had it that way, once she went out, that'd be it. So I hold this ship in very high regard, and btw you may have noticed by now that my top 5 consists mainly of modern liners.
    *6. Olympic -* What a story this ship had. At one point, she almost took Titanic's place for my #1 spot. Once again, she had one of the most legendary careers - stories actually - of any liner, imho second only to the Queen Mary, and in my other, very firm opinion, the most powerful, to which I won't bother going off about it. Big Old Boats already did a fantastic job on that.
    *7. Queen Mary -* Lucky #7! And it suits her. This is perhaps the most famous ship of all time whose name isn't Titanic, and the stories about her that you've shared only make my fondness for her grow. May she stay with us all the way to the end of time.
    *8. Mauretania -* If I had to pick a Cunarder with a career second to the Queen Mary, it'd have to be this absolute great. Whenever I think of the Blue Riband, Mauretania is perhaps the first ship that comes right into mind. She held it in both directions for a combined 22 years, longer than any other liner save of course for the Big U, and even after the Bremen took it generations later, the old greyhound nearly won it back, shattering her previous records every single try. It'd be the coolest thing ever if she pulled it off. Speed aside, she also led one of the finest careers of any ship to set out to sea, and earned the praise and adoration of the entire world. And she had interiors that I believe very strongly inspired those of the Queen Mary, specifically what made them so beloved: while Lusitania was the prettier ship in my view, Mauretania just had that warm, cozy atmosphere that would've made me feel right at home. To think that if it weren't for the Great Depression, she could still be here today.
    *9. Britannic -* While there was no way I couldn't have all three Olympic-class sisters here, this proved to be a bit of a tough decision, since Britannic wasn't around for that long. In fact, she never even saw passenger service, but to spare myself from going any longer than necessary, the more I think about it, the more her personality seems to remind me of Titanic. The theme of having so much going for you and yet having so much to live up to. For the few months that she sailed as a hospital ship, she proved she was more than capable of living up to it. In fact, she probably already had.
    *10. Vaterland -* Now here's one you don't see every day. First off, I HAD to have a German liner in the list: when Germany isn't out causing world wars, they are cranking out works of art and architecture that set the standard for which all others are matched. Vaterland once again represents to me the theme of untapped potential, when he was transferred from his successful but very brief life in Germany to America. We never did a great job at operating him, and when he was sold for scrap, no one save for one soul came to wish him good bye. Still, he ended up being our first superliner, the job Mr. Gibbs did on him helped that man's career take off, and then he also bore the name of the Biblical sea monster, Leviathan, which I think is really, really cool.
    That took a while. 😪

  • @qasimmir7117
    @qasimmir7117 2 года назад +3

    1. RMS Queen Mary
    2. SS Great Britain
    3. RMS Olympic
    4. SS Normandie
    5. RMS Queen Elizabeth
    6. RMS Queen Mary 2
    7. RMS Queen Elizabeth 2
    8. SS Bremen
    9. RMS Titanic
    10. SS United States

  • @ScanFan_Ed
    @ScanFan_Ed 2 года назад +4

    Love your videos, Alex!

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 2 года назад +4

    Forgot to say that the interior of QE2 reminds me of the 1967 Tomorrowland.....

  • @nickmoraal8334
    @nickmoraal8334 2 года назад +2

    Nice video Rlly enjoyed it

  • @jonnybanger
    @jonnybanger 2 года назад +2

    Your list is identical to mine! Different reasons of course, but this was an awesome video! My Great Grandmother emigrated from Germany on the Kronprintz Wilhelm. I have a great picture of that! And I've slept on Queen Mary in Long Beach. Neat bookends 😃

  • @PennCentral5700
    @PennCentral5700 2 года назад +4

    My list would probably be:
    1. SS United States
    2. SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse
    3. RMS Olympic
    4. SS Andrea Doria
    5. RMS Mauretania
    6. RMS Majestic
    7. SS America
    8. RMS Queen Mary
    9. SS Leviathan
    10. RMS Aquitania

  • @joek5882
    @joek5882 2 года назад +2

    You and I share the same #1. The Queen Mary has been a deep part of my life since I first visited at just four years old. I even proposed to my wife aboard her. ❤️ The Lizzie would be my #2 as she took my grandfather from his hometown of SF to Sydney during WWII...the only time in history either of the original Cunard Queens would have any reason to be here. Nice to see the German four stackers represented...they don't get nearly enough attention as they should. 🤗 And I just gotta say...I like the Lucy just a bit more! 😝

  • @user-wl5pe9zp1c
    @user-wl5pe9zp1c 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very nice amazing oceanliners

  • @jimdensmore7262
    @jimdensmore7262 Год назад +1

    I spent a portion of my honeymoon aboard the Queen Mary. Good choice! Love this list. We don’t need no mo Titanic! (Or, as my wife says … Jack! Jack! Jack! Jack! Jack! …)

  • @CJODell12
    @CJODell12 Год назад +1

    My current Top 12:
    1. SS/MS Queen Elizabeth 2 (1969-2008)
    2. RMS Olympic (1911-35)
    3. RMS Aquitania (1914-49)
    4. SS Ile de France (1927-58)
    5. RMS Adriatic (1907-34)
    6. SS United States (1952-69)
    7. MV Britannic (1930-60)
    8. SS France/SS Norway (1962-74, 1980-2003)
    9. SS Europa/SS Liberte (1930-39, 1950-61)
    10. SS Belgenland (1923-36)
    11. RMS Majestic (1922-36)
    12. RMS Empress of Britain (1931-40)

  • @NOrlando952
    @NOrlando952 2 года назад +3

    Ngl something about the Lusitanias lines looks so simple and elegant, I think it looks better than the aquatania because it’s smaller and the proportions work better. Titanic got me into ocean liners but honestly I think the Olympic class kinda looks a bit sterile compared to Cunarders.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +2

      I agree 👍

    • @NOrlando952
      @NOrlando952 2 года назад

      @jdslyman never even thought about it that way, yes they had some differences, but you are right the interiors were nearly identical, the Lusitania and sisters all had different style interiors, and they were far from identical (aquatania might be arguably a totally different class)

  • @FitzRobert
    @FitzRobert 2 года назад +3

    Great list! I'm gladly surprised by your inclusion of the SS Rex, which gets often overlooked despite its grandeur and beauty.
    My personal list would go like this:
    I. SS Andrea Doria
    II. RMS Queen Mary
    III. RMS QM2
    IV. SS Normandie
    V. RMS Berengaria / Imperator
    VI. SS Rex & SS Conte Di Savoia
    VII. RMS QE2
    VIII. SS France
    IX. RMS Mauretania
    X. RMS Aquitania

  • @sherylllagas643
    @sherylllagas643 9 месяцев назад +1

    My #1 is probably the Britannic

  • @DonbAyers
    @DonbAyers 2 года назад +4

    Alex, excellent production! Cool that Rex was on the list. I’ve always been fascinated by Normandy. It had some beautiful lines. PS. I always though RMS stood for Royal Mail Steamer. Did I have that wrong? All the best

    • @Kaidhicksii
      @Kaidhicksii 2 года назад +1

      It really doesn't matter. Royal Mail Ship; Royal Mail Steamer; Royal Mail Steamship. From what I've seen it's generally one of those three terms. You can take your pick, although I'd say Royal Mail Ship is the better term, as it covers all types of ships: sailing vessels, steamers, diesel-electric, nuclear if anyone decided to do that, etc.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад

      Kaivara is right, it really doesn't matter because it generally refers to those three terms. Today it means Royal Mail Ship, that's why the Queen Mary 2 is referred to as RMS. She's not a steamship so it wouldn't make sense to call her that. And before there were steamships, there were masted sailing ships that held the title RMS.

  • @vanessagardiner7663
    @vanessagardiner7663 Год назад +1

    Fabulous, thank you

  • @STEN3326
    @STEN3326 2 года назад +3

    1:21 I was wondering when I saw this view if today we would be able to make paints strong enough to resist the abrasion of the speed combined with the seas that this bow has undergone during the crossing? 🌊🚢

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +1

      Some improvements were made to the formula of the paint, but the thing that protects the paint even more today, is the bulbous bow at the front of the ship, it reduces the bow wave and pushes the seas aside, preventing the paint from getting sheered off.

  • @Xilley1
    @Xilley1 7 месяцев назад

    Seems as if you like Cunard liners, can't blame you, Cunard probably made the most beautiful, innovative and succesful liners ever, and they deserve to be on the list.

  • @galantian
    @galantian Год назад +1

    My top favourite ocean liners would be the
    1. RMS Adriatic
    2. RMS Majestic
    3. RMS Britannic
    4. RMS Lusitania
    5. SS Great eastern
    6. SS France 1960
    7. RMS Queen elizabeth
    8. SS United states
    9. SS City of new york
    10. Kaiser wilhelm der grosse

  • @musicauthority7828
    @musicauthority7828 2 года назад +2

    They were the best ships ever produced. my Grandmother immigrated to the US from England. aboard a Cunard Line ship in the late 1920s. because my father was born in the US on 06-08-1930. my Grandmother told me stories about the Titanic. she was nine years old at the time. I remember her telling about the great loss of life. and people looking for their loved ones after the tragedy. there's a distinction between the White Star Line ships. and Cunard Line ships. all White Star Line ships are designated by having IC at the end of their names. and all Cunard Line ships were designated by IA at the end of end of their names. except for the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth ships. which were produced later. even though the Titanic never completed it's maiden voyage. it's still one of my favorite ships.

  • @winniethepooh6950
    @winniethepooh6950 2 года назад +2

    1. RMSLusitania
    2. RMS Queen Mary (1st)
    3. SS Titanic
    4. Andrea Doria
    5. SS Kaiser Wilhelm
    6. RMS Mauretania
    7. RMS Olympic
    8. RMS Aquitania
    9. MV Britannic
    10. HMHS Britannic

  • @KSGGamed
    @KSGGamed 2 года назад +3

    Hi Alex my name is Nick and I'm from the Netherlands, I just wanted to mention that we also have a classic ocean liner preserved here in the Netherlands, she's called the SS Rotterdam, you should do some research on her she has quite a interesting history.

    • @AlextheHistorian
      @AlextheHistorian  2 года назад +3

      Oh yes, I know about SS Rotterdam :)

    • @KSGGamed
      @KSGGamed 2 года назад +1

      @@AlextheHistorian I've also sent you an email with an offer, you don't have to accept it of course but I'm feeling generous

  • @Vam5555
    @Vam5555 Год назад +1

    My favorites are:
    1. Mauretania
    2. Aquitania
    3. Lusitania
    4. Queen Mary
    5. Queen Elizabeth
    6. Berengaria
    7. United States
    8. Leviathan
    9. America
    10. Carpathia

  • @CianDavies03
    @CianDavies03 Год назад +1

    Surprised that none of the Olympic class liners made it onto this list 😢

  • @BOEINGMAX-nn6ku
    @BOEINGMAX-nn6ku Год назад

    3. Fedor Shalyapin,
    (ex Invernia/ Franconia)
    2. SS Himalaya
    ( Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company)
    1. RMS Pendennis Castle
    (Union Castle Line)

  • @King.of.Battleships
    @King.of.Battleships 10 месяцев назад +1

    Oh my, i wonder what Alex's favorite ocean liner is. Let me guess based on the vast Queen Mary videos. And Alex's incredible knowledge on the Queen Mary.
    I'm going to take a guess and say that Alex's favorite ocean liner is the Queen Mary.

  • @DreamyBBSlimes
    @DreamyBBSlimes Год назад +1

    Here my fav ships:
    1. Titanic
    2. Olympic
    3. Brittanic
    4. Queen Mary
    5. Carpathia

  • @gridley
    @gridley Год назад

    I notice most of the ships had either 1, 2 or 4 funnels. The QM1 was one of the few (or only?) of the major ships that had 3 stacks. An admittedly superficial aspect of an ocean liner, but something about the number 3 makes me think of the 3 sides of a pyramid. Or a certain type of symmetry of the first odd number after 1. Four funnels make me think of the Titanic, while 1 or 2 of them look like the crown of a ship isn't yet complete.

  • @seanstanek4498
    @seanstanek4498 2 года назад +1

    I LOVE THE QUEEN MARY

  • @AviatorsTandR
    @AviatorsTandR Год назад

    Have you heard of SS Paris (1916)? She caught fire in Le Havre at dock on April 18, 1939, while the SS Normandie was in dry dock, so the masts and funnels were removed so the Normandie could get out of the dry dock. Construction began in the Penhoët Shipyards in 1913, with WW1, she sat in Quiberon Bay until 1919 when finished. Nice looking ship, and a sad end. What happened was a fire broke out in the bakery and she capsized because of the fire boats. Two years later, Normandie would catch fire in New York…ironic.

  • @PlayNewMobileGames
    @PlayNewMobileGames 2 года назад +1

    Awesome, my friend. 😍💕 Big like. 👍 Have a good day. 🤗✨

  • @StagnantGravy69
    @StagnantGravy69 2 года назад +1

    6:46 She wasn't a sister ship to either the Lusitania or Mauretania. She was a running mate, meant to compete with the size and speed of White Star's Olympic Class.

    • @ChrisCooper312
      @ChrisCooper312 7 месяцев назад

      I'm not sure "compete with the speed" is quite correct. True she was more in line with the Olympic Class in terms of speed, but that made her slower. She was big, luxurious, but "slow" like the Olympic Class, as opposed to her "smaller" slightly less luxurious but faster step sisters.

  • @jus10lewissr
    @jus10lewissr Год назад

    Olympic will always be my number one so I was a bit sad that she didn't make the list.

  • @cyberp0et
    @cyberp0et 2 года назад +1

    I have a feeling that the Queen Mary must be on this list :p

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 11 месяцев назад

    Aquitania was generally considered to have a somewhat ugly exterior, and was often described as "boxy". The designer had not included a raised forecastle, which meant that from certain angles, the superstructure looked too big for the hull. It's very evident in some photos.