Lenovo ThinkPad P50 Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Lisa Gade reviews the Lenovo ThinkPad P50, a 15.6” mobile workstation with Intel quad core i7 and Xeon processors and NVIDIA Quadro M1000M and M2000M graphics. It’s the successor to the ThinkPad W541 and smaller companion to the ThinkPad P70 we reviewed, the P50 is a classic mobile workstation that’s beefy and powerful.
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It weighs 5.8 lbs. (2.5 kg) and is 1.02” (25.9mm) thick. it’s available with FHD displays (the FHD touch screen option also supports the Lenovo ThinkPad Pro Pen, a Wacom AES pen). We have the matte, non touch 4K IPS display with wide color gamut and a built-in X-Rite Pantone calibrator on the wrist rest.
Ours is equipped with the Intel 6th generation Skylake Xeon E3 1505M quad core, 45 watt processor clocked at 2.8 GHz, but you can save a bit of money and get it with the Intel Core i7-6700HQ quad core CPU. It has Intel WiFi AC 8260, Bluetooth, a 720p webcam and a fingerprint scanner. It has myriad ports including 1 Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Gen. 2 port, HDMI, mini DisplayPort, an SD card slot and optional 4G LTE-A WWAN. A 90 Whr battery is standard with a 170 watt quick charger. Prices range from $1,322 to $2,350.
I don't know why, but I think this computer is beautiful.
it's even better when you see it in person. the matte black finish is great to look at
The keyboard is godly. I tested the T560 at microcenter and it was heaven.
ерунда сэндвич you have to try the old keyboard :)
agsn It's a workstation, it has to have a Quadro GPU because workstation. Blame Nvidia for not releasing lower-end Pascal Quadro GPUs.
i could not agree more!
I am working as a CAD professional and I have the p50 with Xeon 1505, 32 Ram, quadro m2000m. And this workstation has been my main machine! I have never ever encounter a lag or crash. This machine is a beast!
Are you still using it?
I just played Shadow of Mordor on 1080p High setting and everything ran perfectly. My P50 has the 4GB Quadro M2000m, Xeon
I don't know why, but I prefer thick-fat laptops
Yeah they look and feel better and have better airflow. Same as bigger professional video cameras.
Bigger is always better. These things might be difficult to handle (pretty unhandily) but it has a lot of power it THIS IS FUN :D
I prefer thick-fat girls
If this ThinkPad had the classic keyboard it would literally be the perfect ThinkPad for me. Lenovo should at least have the option to pick between classic and chicklet, since this laptop is definitely thick enough for a classic keyboard option.
Yeah chiclet is fucking shit.
Hi Lisa, please review the P51 when it comes out. Thanks.
Yes!!!! Finally a 15 inch work station with Wacom!!!!!! Dream come true!!!
Lisa, I discovered your channel just recently and you are phenomenal! In the market for a laptop for my PhD and your videos are an invaluable resource.
I just got an used P50 after this review. I like it way more than the newer P15!
"AutoCAD" "CAD" "Great for CAD".....
Then there is me buying this thing used for high school because its a great deal & I love thinkpads
Just picked one of these up for under $550 off lease (pretty much brand new in original box). I was shocked to see that the original retail 3 years ago was close to $3400!!!! and I thought luxury overpriced cars where the picture book definition of depreciation. And a quick look around and you will see thousands (not hundreds) and thousands of these 3 year old mint condition P50 Thinkpads for sale around the web. Probably the best deal in the history of tech!
That is a geally good deal. I paid 900€ which in about 1050$ for a used one in january of this year. But i don't regret it. Still very potent and much better build quality than a new consumer machine for the same price
I super trust your reviews. If you review it, I listen to every word. :-) Thank you for doing this model. My company is going to purchase several of these. Thank you again!
The HDMI is capable of 4K @ 60 Hz if you update the Thunderbolt firmware
Another great review Lisa! :)
This machine looks like a fantastic desktop replacement for a CAD user like myself. Love the build and expandability, quite amazing compared to ultrabooks. Odd the screen is so small within the bezels mind.
dont understand why they dont make an option to use IBM thinkpad keyboard in this. price is not a problem just do it pls
Lisa thank you much for your reviews. Yours are the best and most complete that I have found. Excellent work!
I just ordered a P50 today to replace my old W520. So excited to see a model that so closely resembles my old work horse. I plan on adding my own m.2 drive and just ghosting the physical drive over to it and keep it as a storage drive. Black Friday prices are pretty good right now.
Edit: Also, great review :)
Great review. Can I suggest a review of the P40 yoga? I am really interested as a competitor to surface book.
Yep - those 2 or the Vaio Z Flip are really the only options for a convertible (i.e. no kickstand) with good pen support and better than Intel 520 graphics power (the Iris graphics in the Z Flip are actually closer to a 940MX). P40 is the cheapest of the 3. The Yoga 14 from Best Buy can come with a 940M as well but the screen is FHD and not great.
+Pollen Applebee thanks. Useful. Surface book with 16 ram and 512 at 2.6k seems excessive so I am looking for alternatives. Unfortunately Lenovo wants like 15% restocking fee so I need info review before purchasing. On the cheap side there is the hp specter x360 but pen is worse than n trig and Wacom.
Daniel Rodriguez-Delgado Also remember the Spectre x360 just has the normal Intel 520 graphics integrated. If you're willing to go without a dedicated GPU (or Intel Iris) then there are several additional options such as the X1 Yoga and Yoga 460
thanks. actually I was just browsing through HP website and they offer it (the 13.3) with the i7-6560 with Iris 540. if I config it to have 16ram and 512pcivme I get it to be like 1700. which is almost 1k less than the surface book. also a downside of the surface book is that basically everything is soldered. with the HP and with the P40 I assume one can swap the ssd later on.
Daniel Rodriguez-Delgado Whoa! You're right...they don't even show that option on the main page with all the configurations. Seems like that's a big deal.
Hey Lisa, could you do a review and comparison between the Lenovo P51 vs Dell 5520 please??
8:48 Your figurines are adorable (Tux and...Pluto? But he looks like he's from Wallace and Gromit).
Awesome review as always!
A smackdown between the ThinkPad P50 and the Dell Precision 7510 would be awesome.
Been loving your videos, so much info! Can I suggest a Dell 7710 workstation for review? I can't make my mind up between the Lenovo P70 and this. I was curious on the pros and cons between them as far as build quality, everyday use (docking/multiple monitors, 4K panels, and i7 vs Xeon), and whether Dell or Lenovo warranty and customer care. Also could I suggest one with the Quadro M5000M for comparison, and maybe test 2 512GB Samsung 950 PRO M.2s in RAID!
I was on the lookout for a new personal laptop, and after much researching, and watching review videos, and reading reviews online, I decided to pull the trigger on the P50. Mine comes with a 6700 HQ CPU, M1000M with 4GB RAM, 16GB RAM, and a 256 NvMe hard disk. Lenovo had a thanksgiving promotion where I was able to pick this configuration up for $1050 with windows 10 Pro and a backlit keyboard. While I am generally very happy with the purchase, there are some pain points about the laptop,
1. The 1080p display (which I went for after reading bad reviews of the 4K panel online - apparently your test of the display is not accurate enough.), is pretty bad for a workstation class laptop. The color gamut isn't great - I can see it visually when I view two photos side by side with my 2012 MBP. You give us an SD card slot, but now I can't realistically tell what my photos look like!
2. The off-center keyboard is slightly annoying, but the keyboard feel itself is quite spectacular. I like the dedicated num-pad, since I do a lot of entering numbers on spreadsheets, but still the off-center keyboard drives me slightly nuts. The backlighting on the keyboard isn't that great either. (comparing to say a macbook pro.)
3. The palmrest near the fingerprint scanner is definitely bulging out - a lot of people have reported cracked palmrests after some usage. I hope this doesn't happen to mine, but the panel right above the fingerprint reader is creaky.
4. The trackpad is nowhere near as good as the macbook pro's trackpad. Sorry, should I say touchpad. (trackpad being the red button) It is definitely not glass, and isn't as smooth, or accurate as a MBP touchpad.
5. The display aspect ratio!! The MBP has a more squarish aspect ratio which I prefer to this wider but shorter panel. More real estate for programming for instance. Extra rows are always appreciated. I did not research this carefully enough - might not have been reason to not buy the laptop, but still.
I love your reviews! Greetings from Germany! :)
the 3:50 I was waiting for you for a long time have a good day
Great review, as always! (How about a review of the new P51 with similar specs?)
You are so sweet, and you cover all these things from a good, practical viewpoint, useful to someone who would actually be using the device for work and going under the hood to make repairs or replacements, and to the heavy work at home user rather than gaming or looking trendy ...
Great video. Just placed an order for one. Planning to upgrade it once got it.
Love your reviews! Thanks a million!
What would u recommend for video editing labtop?
Budget's around 5,000
Lenovo P50?
Mac?
I'll be using Adobe Premier mostly.
I wish I could justify the purchase.
it justifies itself ;)
Great review and awesome notebook. Snowden style! :D
To bad Lenovo stopped putting dedicated graphics in the weaker/cheaper thinkpads like the T line for example. I have a Thinkpad T420 with a dedicated quadro NVS 4200m and was hoping to upgrade to newer T series with dedicated graphics but that is pretty much impossible since they can only use the intel iris IGP. Pretty much forces me to spend more on something like the P50 here even tho I don't need the dedicated numpad and would rather have the trackpad and keyboard centered on the chassis.
Ok after checking it would seem Lenovo has the T460p now with dedicated nvidia 950mx comapred to the t460, t460s, and t560 which only have as I said intel iris igp. Also noticed no touch option on the t460p while the t460s is either 1080p touch or 1440 non touch no 1080p none touch option. Looks like its going to be the t460p that replaces my older t420 at this point in time if I don't go one of those systems running an i7 4720hq and a nvidia 960 aka gaming class comapred to the buisness I currently have.
Would it be possible for you guys to get the T460p with the i5 6440hq and a 940mx in for review?
You can get a T460p with a 940MX right now. That's nowhere near the M2000M but it's not Iris.
+Pollen Applebee might want to read my whole comment by hitting read more lol
if you are hoping to get full quad core power, you might want to google around some reviews, I read a review on which they document that Lenovo downpowers the 45 watts CPU on the T460p, to something like 35 watts to control heat.edit I think I mean this one: www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T460p-Notebook-Review.160923.0.html
Daniel Rodriguez-Delgado from what I have been reading HP does the same thing and besides i tend to use Throttlestop on my thinkpad t420 since it was being throttled as low as 800mhz and wasn't going up on windows 7 so yeah I would likely be using it ont he T460p as well. Also those 35watts was with just the IGP and not the dgp hence why I am asking her to do a review on the i5 6440 and nvidia 940mx version since it suppoedly has a double heatpipe compared to the single heatpipe on the igp version. Which would help with heat problems to begin with.
Montisaquadeis lol...I see. Why wouldn't you just delete the first paragraph and update your post with the new info you learned? ;)
I suggest you run Cinebench R15 as well. Great review!
hmmm going to do review for p51 and p71??
Just got mine in the mail today.
Very good review as always - and in this case my experience matches! Am very satisfied with my P50 - worth speccing the ram to start with if you don't want to delve under the keyboard, lenovo's price isn't too bad. Certainly no ultrabook - but compared to the bricks of old it can be carried fairly easily. And just great to have those ports, the full keyboard, decent screen and more performance than I 'need'. Expensive but as often's the case the price is eventually forgotten when the result's so good.
Lisa, thank you so much for this review. I have a now 6 year old Lenovo T400 and it's been the best laptop Ive ever owned.. That said, i am wondering if this computer is overkill for me as i want to be able to just work with editing photos and i want to be able to render 4k video fast for my web publishing business. That Razr Blade that's 14 inch seems like it's plenty. Am, I correct?
Dude this laptop is not for u. Its for engineers who using auto cad and don't mind the extra weight or the non prefect accurate display colors. For your purposes you should be looking for a high sRGB color gamut display with a good decent GPU and processor. I would recommend getting a desktop ( Will last much longer and better proformance) but if portability is something u need, check out Asus zenbook pro uhd/Dell i7559 or (I hate to say this) Macbook Pros. Of course non of these are as heavy duty as an thinkpad but they make up for it when your printed photo looks just like your image on your display.
+Alan Miao thanks... I really like the looks of the Razr 14 inch...
Thanks Lisa :)
Nice review. Thanks
Regarding the 3dMark scores, how did you feel about this laptop with a Quadro M2000M scoring higher than the P70 that you reviewed that had a QuadroM4000M? My main deliberation is between performance vs. mobility (comfort for my back), but it seems like this laptop actually is outperforming in some ways...?
MobileTechReviews I am a bit confused. You said it is comparable to a GTX 960m and then in the next breath you said it is like a 980m . I'm sure one of them is a mistake, but which one. Thanks for the great and informative and detailed review. Take care and God Bless you always
put an old thinkpad keyboard in this machine, and it will be super perfect!
Agreed.
@@SebisRandomTech Ayyy what's up, your the thinkpad guy right?
@@hijacked6663 Guilty as charged.
Is Quadro m2000m similar to GTX 960m please reply I need to know
check the manual
thank you so much!
great review as usual thanks. I'm not sure what's the matter with Lenovo but I have a large group of folks have been waiting for this P50 and now don't want it. Why would they put out a display that only puts out 250 Nits? Do they think we all live in the closet? In addition we want a quad or 4K display touch with pen. You have to go back to the 1920 x 1080 display to get that. What's the matter with these dummies at Lenovo? Don't they want to sell anything? They're putting in great components to make it future proof, while they're already five years behind the game with their displays.
Any plans to do a review on the P51?
I wish the battery was at the back to use as a handle.
This is the first tiem I see a woman revieving a ThinkPad, but I am really impressed! I love your enthusiasm for thinkpads, big FAT like, like this beast you are revieving.
I am studying mecatronics in germany right now and got my hands on some beautiful P50 with Xeon and m200m, I will need it later for CAD.
Thank you for reviwing this puppy :)
Wish I could trade in my thinkpad w541 for this.
would this be good for music production?
More than enough
Just picked up a P50 and it's 2023 it weighs a ton but man this is beastly and i know i don't know all thin ins and outs of it yet lol. I'm not even a gamer either lol 1TB SSD/32RAM intel7 6700HQ (didn't know if the letter ends with U that's is not the best) thunderbolt windows 10 though which is fine.... all i know is i needed to get to work and my hp bios crashed and the hard drive was embedded in the mother board 🥴🙃
.... and picked up for just $250
@@chanex5324hi the same one i want to buy . is it 4gb vga ?
Waiting for a smackdown video with the Dell Precision 7510 !!!
Thank you!
I don't work with particularly complex Autocad drawings but 2016 really does know how to bring my laptop to a crawl. If I could work out how to pirate 2012 for Windows 10 it would probably help!
It replaces my Lenovo Thinkpad W541
Got the p50 with the Xeon CPU. Running Boinc for a few hrs and got to 100° CPU temp.. Hope it's not getting destroyed :D
cannot wait for your to compare P51 vs Zbook G4 vs Dell XPS15. ..... Pleaseeeee
Great video by the way. Very informative. My ?: I'd like to connect an external monitor but where can I find "Straight" information on how to do this ? Is it a 'plug n play" type set up ?
Hi, Any chances that you could review the upcoming ThinkPad P51 & P71 when they become available next month.
Interesting Hardware :-) Great Review :-)
I hope they make 14" or 13" of this with thunderbolt 3
Me too, cannot stand the numpad. Don't care about thunderbolt 3 though, more concerned with traditionally awful Lenovo batteries.
it's called the t-series and x-series respectively
your awful battery claim goes unwarranted. my t450s batteries perform stellar
kas130771 lenovo's quality control wrt batteries is extremely lax, which is one of the reasons I've stopped buying them
+kas130771 those do not have thunderbolt
Anyone what to buy this in 2020
@MobileTechReview, Lisa, would you mind running Intel's Linpack benchmark on this (and future reviews if possible) to see what the GFLOPS performance you get from the system? The Linpack benchmark really stresses the processor and generates a lot of heat, and so, for mobile workstations, it's a good benchmark to see how well the system can perform in terms of processing and cooling.
Lmao I still have my ThinkPad T61
great Review! is the NDVIDIA quadro M1000M 2gb enough for 3d grafics fe CAD or even higher? got any advice?
Lisa, how would I connect two external monitors to the Thunderbolt 3 port ? Would I look for a TB to two HDMI out adapter ? I have this ThinkPad and love your vids !!
Great review...Are the Lenovo Y700 series 15.6 displays accurate with colors also? Looking for accurate colors on a little more budget friendly Laptop to do photo editing using Adobe Lightroom. Any recommendations? All advice welcome. Thanks.
Philip.
Uptown Wedding Photography NJ probably too late st this point. But this computer is a bit of an overkill for Lightroom or photoshop :) screen requires calibration and from all
I gathered it is certainly not a selling point.
Everything would be fine and could justify the price if there was a removable processor, and here BGA soldered to the board
you should review the dell precision 3510! I have it and its amazing!
Hey Lisa! How about a review of Asus N752vx?
Hi Lisa! what are your thoughts if that target work is desktop publishing - Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and even MS Visio and Publisher? will M1000M provide enough juice or the price increment on the M2000M is worth the boost it provides?
hi, do you think it is good enough to use it for my study architecture? greatings from holland
How's the battery life on this?
Gabriel Rangel the battery is a lot but goes down fast if u stay on it for about a day
But try not to stay on it like ur stick to it like glue
Any luck with reviewing HP Z-Book Studio ?
I have a question. I am of the theory that for average consumer the i7 with Intel Pro Graphics is more powerful than the Xeon and then the popular 6700 simply because as the CPU can use the eRAM for the Iris as L4 cache. Would you agree?
I think the main benefit of the Xeon is to be able to use ECC memory, but I could be wrong. After all my brain memory is not ECC!
ECC is why I went with the Xeon. My last laptop (Dell XPS 15) crashed constantly; I wanted to do all I could to minimize that possibility. My P50 has not crashed once, for any reason. I think the Xeon is only something like a $50 upgrade over the i7-6820HQ; for me that was worth it just to get ECC.
what about power bridge technology ? you didnt mention anything concerning this feature!
Its has only one battery that can be easily removed; no internal battery.
+medwatt big thank you.
Just to clarify, can you boot from the second M.2 ssd and also the 2.5” drive if you wanted to dual/multi-boot Linux OS’s on separate drives?
Also if using an external monitor via any of the HDMI/display/thunderbolt ports will the graphics render using the laptops discrete graphics card or just the integrated graphics in the cpu? I want to confirm because apparently the W541 only gave integrated graphics on an external monitor
Thanks
You already did review P70 :( why not go for P40 yoga ? it is much different than p70 and more suitable for students :(
We work with the manufacturers and what we review is often dependent on what they have available for review (they send us loaners). Lenovo doesn't have a review program for the P40 yet.
U just earned a sub! ;)
Hi Lisa! Is P50 sufficient to run photoshop and premiere pro?
And editing 4K video?
It would have plenty of power for editing 4k video I do believe.
You must be kidding. This thing is a beast. This is basically a high powered desktop that you can carry.
+HiPlains1 Oh wow ! Thats good news.......tqs
I run those things on my P50, usually simultaneously, along with three browsers and about 30 total tabs at the same time. No issues at all. I also have the Xeon.
LOL i had never heard her talking about gaming. Sounded funny xD. Anyway, I really fell in love with thinkpads since i bought the bestbuy exclusive yoga 14 thinkpad. Amaziing laptops with amazing quality and battery life. Highly recommended!!
Pleas try to get your hands on a p40. I want to know about the gaming abilities but am really want to get it for the pen abilities.
"Prices range from 13,22 to $2,350." Uh?
hello Lisa, can you tell me if this P50 is bulkier and heavier than the old W540/541?
I'm looking to buy a mobile workstation, but wouldn't want something too bulky or heavy.
cheers.
Please make for "Dell Precicion"
Can anyone tell my why the p50 does have two pairs of mousebuttons? One above the spacebar and another one under the touchpad ? Can´t find any explaination for this.
Have you reviewed the DELL precision 7710?
Is the FHD IPS Non-touch very bad at color accuracy?
GTX 1060 gets about 10 500 on 3D Mark test, this quadro m2000m gets 3 861.
Lenovo, plz don't try to tell me the quadro optimization allows this to beat a 1060!
eViL jEsuS ikr. Mobile quadros are the most retarded thing ever.
quadro mobile, or even quadro desktop only makes sense if you need ISV certification for your apps; if you main job depends on the stability of your video card, I will definitely pay the quadro premium. otherwise, it makes little sense.
i had the p50 until i upgrades to the p52
How does this compare to the P50s?
Hi Lisa! hopeyou are well. I own a lenovo P50 with 4K screen..However my son accidently broke the screen. I have been looking for the right model number. Do you know by any chnace the model number of the screen?
Is the ram ecc? Not much else you would need a Xeon for...
Yes if you get it with the Xeon.
lol you sound a bit disappointed in this vid today
can anyone tell me what a xeon 6th gen is
this model have Thunderbolt 3,does it support external GPU?
Does it have the rubbery top? Have a t420 and i dont like the rubber on the top of the screen it deteriorates
I want this internals in a xps 9550 case
Fantastic video Lisa. You should add to your review how terrible Lenovo customer service is. I have ordered the P50 because of this video and I am going through the worst customer service experience of my life.
NEVER and I say NEVER purchase anything from Lenovo before you google Lenovo Customers Service problems/ horror stories etc. Go on reddit and check what people are saying. I have wasted time and money for a product that I will probably never receive.
Just terrible, and I am writing this on a Lenovo machine.
Could I output using the thunderbolt 2 port to a LG Ultrafine Monitor that is made for MACs? Believe that is Thunderbolt 3.
Audio????