1994 Woodward Stakes - Holy Bull

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  • Holy Bull wraps up his 3 year old season by thrashing a full field of Grade I winners...

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  • @SnidgetAsphodel
    @SnidgetAsphodel 7 лет назад +23

    This was one hell of a field that he trounced. Rest in peace, champ.

  • @joefederico
    @joefederico 12 лет назад +9

    He sent an honest pace to set it up for Devil, gave Colonial Affair the rail and still ran away from this field. The Bull ran an awesome race, in hand, just like champions do. Not too many horses would have beat him on this day.

  • @chocolatetownforever7537
    @chocolatetownforever7537 3 года назад +4

    Amazing that Chris Lincoln is not involved in any bigtime horse racing media anymore.
    Yeah, I know he had the issue at the Derby draw that one year, but he was a great Horse Racing analyst and had such passion for the sport.
    Very sad. You were great Chris. Always loved you on ESPN.

  • @trentrez6643
    @trentrez6643 8 лет назад +11

    You mess with the Bull, you get the horns

  • @lorderchamion
    @lorderchamion 11 лет назад +9

    You know when you see something special when you get goosebumps as The Bull romps down the stretch

  • @ebbets1965
    @ebbets1965 8 лет назад +7

    Probably the Bull's best race. Buried a very good field of horses. I agree he was at his best between 8 and 9 furlongs.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 6 лет назад +2

      He could have handled 10f without an issue. Remember in the Travers he was hooked by a rabbit for most of the race and was WELL clear of all but Concern and with that hot pace a closer was bound to run it close. Give him a ride like this race, no way it's close at 10f.

  • @theregoesone3225
    @theregoesone3225 5 лет назад +5

    I love Mike Smith's reaction after crossing the wire. Pumped, like Jordan hitting a game winner. Greatness

  • @goforwand31
    @goforwand31 12 лет назад +8

    Hands downs one of the best fields ever assembled anywhere anytime. And he made it look easy.

    • @trentrez6643
      @trentrez6643 8 лет назад +2

      When you are the greatest of all time, thats what you do

    • @chriswoodson5075
      @chriswoodson5075 3 года назад

      I was marveling too at how good the field was. Remember it like was yesterday.

    • @marklewen9384
      @marklewen9384 2 года назад

      Wasn't as good as 1988 or 1998 BC classic fields, but it was good.

  • @ForeverKeiko
    @ForeverKeiko 7 лет назад +9

    Rest easy champ.

  • @rockymagb8101
    @rockymagb8101 2 года назад +3

    My favorite horse ever! When he died he took a piece of me with him . Charisma personified - they said he didn't have the pedigree or trainer or jockey and he took us all on a ride on his broad shoulders- love you man see you soon may the Lord now keep you in his barn

    • @marklewen9384
      @marklewen9384 2 года назад +1

      I was good friends with jimmy croll. He swore for years someone gave Bull a sedative day before ky derby. Was listless for 3 days after derby, but by wednesday was back to his old self...

    • @Caroni100
      @Caroni100 2 года назад +1

      @@marklewen9384
      Holy Bull
      (January 24, 1991 - June 7, 2017)
      * Sire: Great Above
      * Grandsire: Minnesota Mac
      * Dam: Sharon Brown
      * Damsire: Al Hattab
      * Sex: Stallion
      * Breeder: Pelican Stable
      * Owners: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.)
      * Trainer: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.)
      * Jockeys : Luis Rivera Jr. (1 for 1)
      Mike Smith (12 for 15)
      * 16 Starts
      * 13 Wins
      * 0 Seconds
      * 0 Thirds
      * $ 2,481,760 earned (Current $ 4,433,703)
      * 1994 U.S. Champion 3-Year-Old Colt
      * 1994 U.S. Horse of the Year
      * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2001
      * Number 64 in "The Bloodhorse Magazine Top U.S. Racehorses of the 20th Century List"
      * Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll always remember you!
      * Best regards from Venezuela

  • @marcosgonzalez4525
    @marcosgonzalez4525 2 года назад +2

    A special horse . Not since Secretariat did we see a horse who just captured your heart with his style , courage and personality. My favorite . You go on.Bull !

    • @Caroni100
      @Caroni100 2 года назад +1

      Holy Bull
      (24 de Enero, 1991 - 7 de Junio, 2017)
      * Padre: Great Above
      * Abuelo paterno: Minnesota Mac
      * Madre: Sharon Brown
      * Abuelo materno: Al Hattab
      * Sexo: Semental
      * Criador: Pelican Stable
      * Propietarios: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
      * Entrenador: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
      * Jinetes: Luis Rivera Jr. (De 1-1)
      Mike Smith (De 15-12)
      * 16 Salidas
      * 13 Primeros
      * 0 Segundos
      * 0 Terceros
      * $ 2,481,760 producidos ($ 4,433,703 actuales)
      * Campeón Tresañero de Estados Unidos 1994
      * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1994
      * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2001
      * Número 64 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX" de la revista "The Bloodhorse"
      * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Siempre te recordaremos!
      * Saludos desde Venezuela

  • @JoseRivera-md6en
    @JoseRivera-md6en 4 года назад +3

    best horse since Easy Goer .. imagine what he would have done at the age of 4

    • @slb6932
      @slb6932 2 года назад

      The Bull broke down chasing Cigar his 4 yr old campaign.

    • @Caroni100
      @Caroni100 2 года назад

      Holy Bull
      (24 de Enero, 1991 - 7 de Junio, 2017)
      * Padre: Great Above
      * Abuelo paterno: Minnesota Mac
      * Madre: Sharon Brown
      * Abuelo materno: Al Hattab
      * Sexo: Semental
      * Criador: Pelican Stable
      * Propietarios: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
      * Entrenador: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
      * Jinetes: Luis Rivera Jr. (De 1-1)
      Mike Smith (De 15-12)
      * 16 Salidas
      * 13 Primeros
      * 0 Segundos
      * 0 Terceros
      * $ 2,481,760 producidos ($ 4,433,703 actuales)
      * Campeón Tresañero de Estados Unidos 1994
      * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1994
      * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2001
      * Número 64 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX" de la revista "The Bloodhorse"
      * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Siempre te recordaremos!
      * Saludos desde Venezuela

  • @sidewalkcafe2007
    @sidewalkcafe2007 10 лет назад +7

    The Travers is run at 10 furlongs. Holy Bull was without question the best horse in training in 1994. Didn't run in the BC. This was a stellar Woodward field, and he toyed with them.

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 5 лет назад

      Cigar was stronger, just not known. Cigar literally ran Holy Bull into the ground.

    • @augur6256
      @augur6256 4 года назад +1

      @@raygordonteacheschess5501 When they met in the Donn, Cigar was 5, did not race at 2, won 2 of 9 races at three, maiden and allowance, raced six times at 4, 5 allowance, 1 win, first graded stakes win after 15 races, with Bill Mott as trainer, and Jerry Bailey on his back. Cigar's record was 5 wins in 16 races with one graded stakes win.
      Holy Bull was 4, a grade 1 winner at 2. The Bull did not finish two races at Gulfstream, the Fountain of Youth, when his palate flipped, and the Donn, when he broke down. The Derby was the only race he lost that he finished. There seems to be fairly common knowledge that there was some hanky panky with this Derby. Jimmy Croll told them what they could do with their Triple Crown. He claimed he had the best horse in training, and proved it with Eclipse Awards for Best 3YO, and Horse of the year.
      The Bull sired a Kentucky Derby winner. Seems that Cigar had E D.
      Holy Bull was one of kind, with folklore as big as Stronach’s statue rising above Gulfstream Park.
      Holy Bull memorabilia is still available on eBay.
      Who knows, maybe there's a Bill Mott Chess game "How to steal a horse race."

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 4 года назад

      @@augur6256 I should have said three but he did earn a high figure on dirt before going on the turf. At three it's still impressive because horses grow from 3-4. Point is his dirt form had already been established.

    • @augur6256
      @augur6256 4 года назад +2

      @@raygordonteacheschess5501
      Point is: Cigar couldn't hold a candle to Holy Bull
      Point is: Cigar did not run Holy Bull into the ground. You're a sick pup.
      Point is: Cigar did not run at 2. At 3 he faced softer on kinder turf - 2 for 9
      Point is: Holy Bull won the prestigious G1 Futurity, was undefeated at 2
      Point is: In 1994 - Holy Bull was not only 3YO champ, but Horse of the Year.
      Point is: In 1993 - Cigar won 2 of 9 races as a 3YO.
      Point is: In 1994 - 4YO Cigar went to Mott, won 2 of 6 - 1st G1 under Bailey 11/26
      Point is: You are trashing one of the most charismatic horses of our times on a video of one of his greatest races. Against all odds, Jimmy Croll made the blueblood's heads explode, much the same way Jason Servis is doing with Maximum Security this year. Interesting how Bill Mott is involved in both Cigar and stealing the Derby.

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 4 года назад

      I think people who take a disagreement so personally to the point of insulting someone so rudely (from behind a monitor of course) shouldn't be attempting to diagnose anyone online. Cigar won sixteen races in a row, the first of which included Holy Bull in the entries. That speaks for itself to most of the racing world. Cigar "won two of nine races" and two of six at four on the TURF, before he was moved back to the DIRT. Anyway I don't argue for more than two postings so have fun with your foul mouth.

  • @Caroni100
    @Caroni100 2 года назад +1

    Holy Bull
    (January 24, 1991 - June 7, 2017)
    * Sire: Great Above
    * Grandsire: Minnesota Mac
    * Dam: Sharon Brown
    * Damsire: Al Hattab
    * Sex: Stallion
    * Breeder: Pelican Stable
    * Owners: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.)
    * Trainer: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (R.I.P.)
    * Jockeys : Luis Rivera Jr. (1 for 1)
    Mike Smith (12 for 15)
    * 16 Starts
    * 13 Wins
    * 0 Seconds
    * 0 Thirds
    * $ 2,481,760 earned (Current $ 4,433,703)
    * 1994 U.S. Champion 3-Year-Old Colt
    * 1994 U.S. Horse of the Year
    * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 2001
    * Number 64 in "The Bloodhorse Magazine Top U.S. Racehorses of the 20th Century List"
    * Rest In Peace, Champion! We´ll always remember you!
    * Greetings from Venezuela
    Holy Bull
    (24 de Enero, 1991 - 7 de Junio, 2017)
    * Padre: Great Above
    * Abuelo paterno: Minnesota Mac
    * Madre: Sharon Brown
    * Abuelo materno: Al Hattab
    * Sexo: Semental
    * Criador: Pelican Stable
    * Propietarios: Rachel Carpenter & Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
    * Entrenador: Warren A. "Jimmy" Croll Jr. (QEPD)
    * Jinetes: Luis Rivera Jr. (De 1-1)
    Mike Smith (De 15-12)
    * 16 Salidas
    * 13 Primeros
    * 0 Segundos
    * 0 Terceros
    * $ 2,481,760 producidos ($ 4,433,703 actuales)
    * Campeón Tresañero de Estados Unidos 1994
    * Caballo del Año en Estados Unidos 1994
    * Exaltado al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 2001
    * Número 64 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX" de la revista "The Bloodhorse"
    * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeón! ¡Siempre te recordaremos!
    * Saludos desde Venezuela

  • @nickyd.4695
    @nickyd.4695 2 года назад +1

    As great as he was, he was underrated. This was a talented field and it was over when they hit the stretch.

  • @mz15945
    @mz15945 5 лет назад +2

    Wow

  • @theregoesone3225
    @theregoesone3225 5 лет назад +2

    "Not touched by the whip" and whipped the field

  • @raygordonteacheschess5501
    @raygordonteacheschess5501 5 лет назад +2

    "TOYING with the best horses in training!" (Other than Cigar).

    • @augur6256
      @augur6256 4 года назад +1

      The Bull was 1994 Horse of the Year at three. He won 13 of 16 races, 2 he did not finish, 6 Grade 1, 2 Grade 2, 2 ungraded stakes, an allowance, and a Maiden.
      Cigar did not race at two, won 2 races out of 9 as a 3yo. When he was a 4yo, Bill Mott became the trainer. Cigar won 1 of 5 allowance races and his first stakes and Grade 1 race after 15 starts. Both of Cigar's wins came after Holy Bull won the Woodward and had wrapped up Horse of the Year honors. Cigar started his win streak with these two wins at the end of 1994 when Mott put Jerry Bailey on his back, took Cigar off the turf and put him on dirt. I was at Gulfstream for both horse's first two races of the 1995 campaign. I have bet on horses that were not the horse I was betting on on several occasions. The first time I saw Cigar in 1995, he was on the slender side. When I saw him before the Donn, I didn't think he was the same horse. Like, he became Arnold in three weeks. I know horses start to fully mature at five, but in three weeks? It didn't matter, Holy Bull broke down, supposedly. He did not want to go into the horse ambulance. Cigar went on to his fourth consecutive win, the rest should be easy with the Bull now retired. You see, Alan Paulson had been very good to the American Government and to the horse racing industry, and he had the Cigar. If you ever been to a track, you know what I mean. But, he was dying from cancer. The consensus from the ones that knew, claimed Mott managed the easiest win streak in history. Cigar won several allowance and non graded stakes races. He faced very few legitimate Grade 1 winners, and the ones he did, were on their way out. When he started running against Grade 1 winners, he lost, and was retired. Paulson passed a few years later.
      Holy Bull's competition was much stiffer. Cigar doesn't hold a candle to him.
      Holy Bull sired a Kentucky Derby winner. Seems that Cigar had E D.
      Holy Bull was one of kind, with folklore as big as Stronach’s statue rising above Gulfstream Park.
      Holy Bull memorabilia is still available on eBay.

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 4 года назад +1

      Cigar was not an elite horse until very late in '94. Holy Bull beat the best that year and was a no doubt-about-it Horse of the Year.

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 4 года назад

      @@DanielSong39 Cigar was always elite on dirt, but was hiding on the grass so yes Holy Bull bad the better year.

  • @beast13284
    @beast13284 11 лет назад +2

    wow, forgot how good this field was. devil 3.4 million, pistols multiple gr 1 winner and the bull made a shambles of them! wow, 1 turn race, but breathtaking

  • @sherylejeffers9491
    @sherylejeffers9491 5 лет назад +2

    Love you Holy Bull....still...and always...

  • @flatonia
    @flatonia 13 лет назад +3

    He simply runs away from older more seasoned horses.

    • @buensantos4301
      @buensantos4301 7 лет назад

      Palace malice

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 5 лет назад

      And that's when they didn't hide their 3yos from facing older horses either.

  • @marklewen9384
    @marklewen9384 2 года назад +2

    Going from Tom Durkin to Larry Colmus was like filet mignon to bologna...

    • @rugger104
      @rugger104 2 года назад

      You got that right- Durkin is the 🐐

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 Год назад

      To be fair Durkin tailed off a ton in his latter years and Colmus was a huge improvement at the time

    • @marklewen9384
      @marklewen9384 Год назад

      @@DanielSong39 huge improvement? Hes atrocious....i love it when near the finish line of a big race he stammers looking for something eloquent to say, and something comes out of this mouth that would make a 4th grader cringe.

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 Год назад

      @@marklewen9384 Colmus is an above average race caller. Yes Durkin was better in his prime but towards the end he just did not belong behind a mike

    • @marklewen9384
      @marklewen9384 Год назад

      @@DanielSong39 Collmus belongs working at white castle....

  • @BradleyMaddox-v7h
    @BradleyMaddox-v7h 3 месяца назад

    Cigar would've never had his run unless "the Bull" hadn't injured himself!!😟😟

  • @OneJamTV
    @OneJamTV Год назад

    Awesome Holy Bull - another goose-bump-inducing performance

  • @caesarfiorini
    @caesarfiorini Год назад

    Bull finished off a Haskell -Travers - Woodward trifecta. Amazing!

  • @thomasblue6064
    @thomasblue6064 5 лет назад +1

    We will never know who was the better horse, Holly Bull or Cigar. The only race they meet in Holly Bull broke down ending his career.

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 5 лет назад

      Holy Bull was run into the ground by Cigar, so Cigar was better. He was just stuck on the turf. Cigar had run a 95 at two without Lasix.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 4 года назад

      @@raygordonteacheschess5501 Cigar was not better than Holy Bull. And No Cigar did not run Holy Bull into the ground nice try. Cigar needed Lasix to keep going, Holy Bull never did. The numbers Holy Bull put up, far exceeds anything Cigar ever did. Had Holy Bull not torn his tendon in the race, there would not have been a 16 race win streak for Cigar. But what a year that would have been with those two matching up race after race.

    • @TheJustjim3333
      @TheJustjim3333 2 года назад +2

      @@raygordonteacheschess5501 when I finally got to ask Mike Smith about the race against Cigar he told me he could go by him whenever he wanted to...this horse was on another level

  • @jimspoor9541
    @jimspoor9541 9 лет назад +1

    Florida derby was 9f in which he galloped

  • @ebbets1965
    @ebbets1965 8 лет назад +1

    It's too bad there wasn't a Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile at the time. He might have been tempted to enter it.

    • @josephweil3923
      @josephweil3923 6 лет назад +2

      No back then there was a huge entry fee if not BC nominated which he wasn't and the BC was at Churchill where he flopped in the mud so Croll was waiting for the next year at Belmont but unfortunately he broke down against Cigar in the Donn handicap in 1995 and retired to stud. Now a days he would have won a win-and-your-in race and automatically would have made the classic with fees waived!

    • @raygordonteacheschess5501
      @raygordonteacheschess5501 5 лет назад

      Against Cigar?

  • @yipyappyyip
    @yipyappyyip 6 лет назад +1

    Complete domination

  • @Skoshi33
    @Skoshi33 11 лет назад +2

    When horses ran, Cigar galloped...

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 5 лет назад +2

      But he could never run as fast as this guy.

    • @danc3831
      @danc3831 5 лет назад

      @@goforwand31 ......and this guy could never run as fast as Ghostzapper.

    • @augur6256
      @augur6256 4 года назад +1

      @@danc3831 Horses are magnificent creatures, welding such power through such fragile legs and hoofs. Few make it to the racetrack. Some rise to heights of folklore. With a few exceptions, they are pack animals. They have good and bad days, just like us. They get injured just like us. They are also subject to horrendous drug abuses from unscrupulous, greedy human connections. They become objects of human greed, emotion, and folklore Ghostzapper was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 2004.
      Holy Bull was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 1994.
      Cigar was brilliant and was well deserving of his Eclipse honors in 1995-96.
      The immortal Dr. Fager and Secretariat still hold North American track records from the 60s and 70s. On any given day, a horse can become mortal, be subjected to human interference, and human greed and politics. Native Dancer was a television star more popular than Milton Berle. His only loss was in the Kentucky Derby to a horse named Dark Star. Inside connections made a fortune.
      Frank Stonach bred and raced Ghostzapper. Stonach owns Gulfstream and Santa Anita.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 4 года назад

      @@danc3831 I don't consider Ghostzapper great. Sure he was fast, but highly unsound. I'm still a bit peeved he's in the Hall of Fame when he couldn't even run more than 4 times a year and only won once at 10f with 4 GI wins that it took him 3 years to accumulate. Holy Bull ran in more races in one year back to back than Ghostzapper ever could. Brilliant yes for Ghostzapper, but great, no.

    • @rockymagb8101
      @rockymagb8101 2 года назад

      The Bull got the last laugh in the breeding shed and Cigar shot blanks - Cigar had 13 pounds and Lasix when the Bull got hurt people forget that I was there and they were neck and neck when he got hurt around the backstretch

  • @DanielSong39
    @DanielSong39 6 лет назад +1

    This a quality field that he beat. Too bad he didn't have enough in the tank for the Classic.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 4 года назад +1

      He never ran in the Classic. His trainer already knew he didn't like Churchill so there was no need to go there. Besides by this point, he had tackled all he needed to and had beaten older horses twice. Nothing more to prove. I'd like to see any modern 3yo these days, tackle this kind of schedule.

    • @DanielSong39
      @DanielSong39 4 года назад +1

      @@goforwand31 There is a reason why they don't, the trainers know what they can and can't do

    • @marklewen9384
      @marklewen9384 2 года назад

      @@goforwand31 I was friends with jimmy croll. Bull was not BREEDERS CUP nominated. Its why he went to calder as a 2yo and not BC juvenile.

  • @chriswoodson5075
    @chriswoodson5075 3 года назад

    Look at Smith’s full head of hair!

  • @thomasrender
    @thomasrender 5 месяцев назад

    The one and only!

  • @glennvieregge934
    @glennvieregge934 Год назад

    What a beast. ❤❤❤❤

  • @ronsmac
    @ronsmac 3 года назад

    Although the older horses of 1994 were mediocre, it was still a great win by the Bull.

  • @ebbets1965
    @ebbets1965 8 лет назад +1

    Is he still alive? Wikipedia doesn't show a date of death.

    • @howtobeme8248
      @howtobeme8248 8 лет назад

      steven cooke yes I'm pretty sure (trusting Wikipedia)

    • @billross6013
      @billross6013 7 лет назад

      The Bull is still the property of Darley at 25.

    • @signoresantinoburnett1169
      @signoresantinoburnett1169 7 лет назад

      He just passed on a couple of days ago. 26 years young.

  • @josephweil3923
    @josephweil3923 5 лет назад

    There was no win and your in Breeders cup races back then so they would have had to supplement his entry fee what a shame and his derby flop at Churchill where the BC was that year kept him out but Concern won who he beat in the Travers! HOY

    • @roshakasravi1989
      @roshakasravi1989 4 года назад

      Wish I could of seen "Holy Bull" Race with a very young talented kid, Mike Smith ..
      The Amzaing Zenyatta, SongBird ...
      Big $ Mike has ridden the best of the best rt into HISTORY Books.
      Many a Legendary Horse has tasted the massive attention of triumph in
      winners circle still Wilded Eyed & Breathing deep thanks to Mike skillful talents ...
      .. who can forget Mike Smith's ride on "Derossilmyer" coming out of nowhere with no camera on Mike ... but cameras at finish wire ... punters thinking fractions of second to race over. Race now detremined.
      Than Mikie comes flying splattered in mud to steal race while renaming all other runners into
      "Nice Try & also rans ".
      I NEVER take MS for granted ...The guys a Legend in equine racing ... yes, i'm newer bettor ... still ...
      Even legends get older ... Memories NEVER AGE only get added too, while sometimes they grow briter ...
      Thanks

  • @NorthernSold1
    @NorthernSold1 12 лет назад +2

    First time I have ever seen this race... wow!!

    • @billross6013
      @billross6013 7 лет назад +1

      I FEEL BAD YOU HAVE MISSED THE SUBLIMITY OF THE GREAT HOLY BULL.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 5 лет назад +1

      @@billross6013: I agree, they absolutely don't make them like him anymore.

  • @shanediamond2914
    @shanediamond2914 10 лет назад +1

    Except for the Travers, which he held on for dear life, couldn't win at 9 furlongs Last I saw Holy Bull he broke down chasing Cigar. How come when Holy Bull beats these horses (Devil His Due, Tinners Way,etc...) there the best horses around. When Cigar beats these horses they're garbage

    • @NariSoundarrajan
      @NariSoundarrajan 10 лет назад +1

      Geez man Shane, you are either a troll or you know nothing about north american thoroughbred racing.. lol and Holy Bull usually was not touched by the whip in most of his winning races. geez the travers is coming up please review those youtube videos again.
      By the way, I am not in the camp which says Cigar beat garbage horses. Cigar is great and there is no second discussion about that too. he showed his absolute top class multiple times - at Dubai, New York etc in top notch Gr1 company.

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 9 лет назад +3

      Shane diamond There is a difference between the two. Cigar needed Lasix to run and Holy Bull ran and won without it his entire career.

    • @TheJustjim3333
      @TheJustjim3333 8 лет назад +1

      +Shane diamond This race was at 9f....what are you? a moron?

    • @goforwand31
      @goforwand31 8 лет назад +1

      By the way, he never lost a 9f race. He won the Florida Derby, Blue Grass, Haskell and Woodward ALL at 9f.

    • @billross6013
      @billross6013 7 лет назад

      BECAUSE CIGAR was a fully grown 5 year old, 3 year old are not suppose to beat older horses.

  • @bonniejay5500
    @bonniejay5500 Год назад

    Horse racing is a male oriented torture. It is cruel beyond belief.