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omg Jen is awesome on camera. Seems like a great get for tfl, plus worked for tesla annd her own tire bizzz. hope she is happy there as look forward to future content!
Michelin owns BF Goodrich. Michelin tires have always had the lowest rolling resistance overall of any tire company. We worked with a Government agency years ago that tested all the tire companies and they found Michelin was superior for low rolling resistance.
I have to admit. That might be the main reason why i clicked. One last chance to see our old friend cyberduck ... I dont know why but i like calling them Cyberduck and a make myself laugh by quacking like a duck every time i see one
I love Michelin tires in general, but for an off-road truck like my Tundra, they just don’t have much bite. I lose traction constantly on uphill rain slicked crush and run trails.
Jen!!!! I was wondering where you went! I LOVED the work you guys did at BluMobile Tire. Glad to see you joined one of my favorite RUclips channels! Roman, Tommy, and Andre are awesome. I'm looking forward to many more videos with you.
I hope people appreciate how much time and work it can take to make a 20 minute video but it was a great video and a lot of good information on selecting a tire for your personal needs and what your can expect for range on really any truck. Gas or electric tires are going to make a difference on battery range or a tank of gas. Again great video guys and thanks for putting in the work.
Odd to see the cyber truck since it was traded in on the VW bus already before this video was released. Outside of the fact this was an add based video for plugging other things, the 100 mile Denver loop that is 111 miles that the other day someone said was actually 115 miles(somehow)more EV drives should be done on this loop.
🤍Quien esté leyendo este comentario, le deseo todo lo mejor en su vida. Que la luz llene su vida. Que Dios lo guíe hacia la prosperidad. A pesar de la crisis económica, imagínese pagar una deuda de $28,000. Que Dios bendiga a la Sra. CAMILLA H THEES, le estaré eternamente agradecida.🇺🇸
No, tiene una oficina oficial en Estados Unidos. 🇺🇸 pero puedes comerciar con él desde México, yo estoy comerciando con él desde Oaxaca 🇲🇽con bitso para que todo sea fácil.
I would design a tire that looks off roadie but with low rolling resistant tread. How many people actually go off roading? You can get the looks and the good mpg.
If you take a look at the equations, heavy tires make more difference for lower speed starting and stopping. Once you’re at speed, they make less difference. However, handling, accelerating, and braking is where wheel weight has the greatest affects.
Thoughts on the many posts or opportunities with aero rim covers? I notice these a lot and have no real way to evaluate the claims, but the ones that I have purchased look much better then the silver covers that came on my '24 Y. At least they better match the charcoal gray paint color now.
When you abuse the living poop out of a tire, accelerating a 7,000 pound truck to 60 in 3 seconds, you're going to burn up any tire ever made. I'm at 8,500 miles and only 1/32 reduced. Will probably get 40,000
Lighter tires will help efficiency but may not last as long. Side note, sucks how expensive tires are. Try to make mine last the maximum amount till unsafe. But honestly sometimes get bored and want to replace them sooner lol. Just so expensive.
How is it a surprise when Tesla directly shows the difference in range with the different tire packages they offer? Of course such things have a range impact.
seems like you probably finished the 2nd test (more efficient test) at evening rush hour. Efficiency is potentially better in any EV in such a situation. Having your average speed (or overall time) for the test be very very close to the same would eliminate that variable and presenting it with these results would make it slightly more scientific. If it took more than 5 minutes longer to do the loop in the second test, the results are inconclusive at best.
@@mmaxx9915 I live close to where their testing takes place is so I am very familiar with the weather/atmospherics of their test. If anything, the temperature is more likely to have been a degree or two warmer in late afternoon/early evening than when they started/finished the testing early in the day. The average speed / potential for traffic slowdowns at evening rush hour will have a much greater impact to the overall range in general and in their test than the temperature related drag or cabin heating. Additionally, the wheels they used were not exactly the same, so there will be some aerodynamic difference that they have not mentioned or accounted for (and this may be similar order of magnitude as tire difference). In a perfect test, the 'better efficiency' tires are very likely to give a result similar to theirs - few up to 10 percent (maybe more) better range, but this test has not controlled the variables well enough to discriminate within the difference they found.
@@scottgregory2059 while I agree there was no exact comparison. I have looked at multi hour temperatures for the Denver area. 10am is about the same temperature on average as 5pm. Also being stalled in traffic with the heat pump on is going to cut into slower speed driving efficiency of electrics. I don’t think it’s an all or nothing point. I’m just saying the idea the efficiency is mostly due to traffic conditions is potentially countered by other mitigating factors. Supposing the degree of those factors is speculative. I believe we are playing Symantec’s here and are agreeing with each other just coming at it from different perspectives.
I wish you would have shown how much energy was used by the vehicle and HVAC and stuff between the two runs. Especially considering you ended the second run at night, which surely took less cooling of the vehicle components and less HVAC.
Your ugly weights on the outside edges perform better then the single weight on the inside. Would be cool to see a different tire size like a tall and skinny tire.
Are they calling machined wheels forged? That seems like false advertising. Milling something out of a billet of aluminum is very different than actually forging something.
I do not think you understand what forged actually means - it 's a difference between forged and cast, not forged and milled. EVERY forged wheel is then milled ;)
@@krzysztofiwanowski5308 yeah thats not how that works either genius. you not been around cars long? using a cnc to cut entire wheels out of a billet isnt forging no matter what mental gymnastics you try. its misleading at best and the kind of thing NZXT just got reported to the FTC for. if theyre calling them forged because theyre using forged billets and then cutting the wheel out its shady marketing on a technicality.
et ceteribus paribus I doubt that you can compare these 2 rides cause you do not drive the same, have the same traffic and what not. 3/48 less ist 6,3% not 10% but even that can be completely different due to wind, temperature, traffic and driving changes cause did you adjust the inside temperature when it went dark and cold(er) . Might be better to run 2 cars at the same time behind each other and that might make it more comparable. Here we had seen such tests with a rental car to get such results but between all season and specific EV tyres for example that also had about 5% difference.
Actually you guys used 52 kwh. Screen doesn't show total energy Consumption. Always calculate %at beginning and at end. That's true number. 42 % is 52 kwh.
I hardly ever use a supercharger anymore. I just plug in when I get home and my Tesla is charged for the next day. We spend LESS time at the pump... not more
The only issue with tires wearing fast is driving habit and weight. Electric vehicles have so much torque on demand it’s easier to drive it harder. As far as weight goes there are heavier ICE vehicles that wear tires faster than average and on par with electric.
I’m on 33k miles on my model y tires. Treads are still fine. It’s about those people that take off fast because they like the torque. Do this and it wears the tire out fast. Drive normal and you’re fine.
It’s the weight and these tires specifically, they are just cheap tires. Most tires from the manufacturer last 20-40k, however if you buy good quality name brand tires they can usually last at least 50k, with good driving.
What a great test! Even better to have a tire/wheel expert like Jen who’s also a Tesla expert to boot! 8-10% is an enormous difference in efficiency in such an enormous truck/battery. Great data to plan with for folks that adventure these beasts out into the hinterland or spend most of their day in the Cybermonster.
This advertisement is the most adverty TFL has ever been. Like, you really hit us in the face with how addy this is, and then did it again, and again throughout. Ick.
"just lost 20 minutes of our day"... That was a stupid statement, without context. EV owners need to be able to charge when the vehicle is NOT IN USE, which for most people is over 90 percent of the time. So assuming someone can charge when the vehicle is not in use then they will save time because they NEVER have to go to a gas station. The most important thing for mass EV adoption is access to level 2 charging at home, work and other places a vehicle is parked for an extended period of time. Fast charging should only be necessary for road tripping and when road tripping it shouldn't be a big deal to take a 20 minute break from driving. The last thing we want to do is replicate the gas station model with EVs. (Having said that, fast charging is improving every year but the infrastructure will lag behind the top end. The top end is already nearly twice as fast as that Cybertruck charge.) Of course there are exceptions for people who drive (and tow) a lot but that is the exception to the rule for daily vehicle use. The rule is cars sit idle MOST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. (Which is why transportation as a service, with autonomous EVs, is going to be HUGE!)
And now you’ve traded the Cyber Truck in what happened to the 2 sets of tires and wheels…..and what tires and wheels were on the Cyber Truck when it was sent to PA
The OEM tires wear out quickly, after that you put on a good set of regular tires and get 50K or 60k out of them like would on any other vehicle. The OEM tires have a shallow tread depth for greater range. You can find CT videos on this.
It’s frustrating (and somewhat infuriating) that you did not do ANY off road tests with proper tires on the CyberTruck. I and many others mentioned this in prior videos and you said you would. Very disappointing. You really dropped the ball on this one. Shame.
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omg Jen is awesome on camera. Seems like a great get for tfl, plus worked for tesla annd her own tire bizzz. hope she is happy there as look forward to future content!
It's about dang time they hired someone else. No offense to them but they need personality
19:24 the KO3's are triple peak rated, which means they are a softer compound for winter driving. This increases rolling resistance.
The new lady Jen you hired seems to be a really good and professional car reviewer and communicator!
Agreed
And she's not afraid to get her hands dirty 😊!! And she's easy on the eyes😊!!
That new lady Jen use to also watch tfl before getting hired. She already knows the language 👍😂
Missed opportunity for a sound reading as well!
I would take a 10% range increase in my Bolt. Great video, thank you for the long day of driving!
Did I just watched a 20 min ad just to see Jen? I don't even have a Tesla or plan to. 😊
I love you TFL for all the reviews. Literally all of them are what a car person wants to know! yall go the distance for real
Please do a snow/ice comparison of the KO3s vs the LTX, in comparison to a winter tire. Love the new videos with Jen!
What was the weight difference between the factory and the two new sets? And rims too...
Loooove the cybertruck!
Michelin owns BF Goodrich. Michelin tires have always had the lowest rolling resistance overall of any tire company. We worked with a Government agency years ago that tested all the tire companies and they found Michelin was superior for low rolling resistance.
You posted this AFTER you posted the video stating that you replaced the truck with the VW? LOL.
I have to admit. That might be the main reason why i clicked. One last chance to see our old friend cyberduck ... I dont know why but i like calling them Cyberduck and a make myself laugh by quacking like a duck every time i see one
I love Michelin tires in general, but for an off-road truck like my Tundra, they just don’t have much bite. I lose traction constantly on uphill rain slicked crush and run trails.
Jen!!!! I was wondering where you went! I LOVED the work you guys did at BluMobile Tire. Glad to see you joined one of my favorite RUclips channels! Roman, Tommy, and Andre are awesome. I'm looking forward to many more videos with you.
You’re in for a treat, buckle up!
I hope people appreciate how much time and work it can take to make a 20 minute video but it was a great video and a lot of good information on selecting a tire for your personal needs and what your can expect for range on really any truck. Gas or electric tires are going to make a difference on battery range or a tank of gas. Again great video guys and thanks for putting in the work.
another great daily driver info video
Odd to see the cyber truck since it was traded in on the VW bus already before this video was released. Outside of the fact this was an add based video for plugging other things, the 100 mile Denver loop that is 111 miles that the other day someone said was actually 115 miles(somehow)more EV drives should be done on this loop.
I showed up for the Cybertruck. I stayed to listen to Jen.
🤍Quien esté leyendo este comentario, le deseo todo lo mejor en su vida. Que la luz llene su vida. Que Dios lo guíe hacia la prosperidad. A pesar de la crisis económica, imagínese pagar una deuda de $28,000. Que Dios bendiga a la Sra. CAMILLA H THEES, le estaré eternamente agradecida.🇺🇸
Lo mismo me pasó a mí: hace dos meses comencé con 7000 y ahora puedo decir con seguridad que he recibido más de 26,000.
Dios es maravilloso☺️!!
Ella es una mujer muy generosa en Nueva York que dona a organizaciones benéficas y ayuda a las personas a aumentar su riqueza.
Vaya, también conoces a Camilla H Thees
Están sus servicios disponibles para uno aquí en Honduras🇭🇳 ?
No, tiene una oficina oficial en Estados Unidos. 🇺🇸 pero puedes comerciar con él desde México, yo estoy comerciando con él desde Oaxaca 🇲🇽con bitso para que todo sea fácil.
And one more time with the all season + original rims + aero covers!
Nice job
Knurling on the bead reduces tire slip? I call bullsh!t.
I would design a tire that looks off roadie but with low rolling resistant tread. How many people actually go off roading? You can get the looks and the good mpg.
Jen! 🦇
Was that a impact drill and a sliver socket?
If you take a look at the equations, heavy tires make more difference for lower speed starting and stopping. Once you’re at speed, they make less difference. However, handling, accelerating, and braking is where wheel weight has the greatest affects.
Those wheels are much better than the stock ones. Much better
Thoughts on the many posts or opportunities with aero rim covers? I notice these a lot and have no real way to evaluate the claims, but the ones that I have purchased look much better then the silver covers that came on my '24 Y. At least they better match the charcoal gray paint color now.
I love my Atomic wheels for my model Y Performance
Tires wearing out after 11,000 miles? Yikes.
When you're paying $80K to $100K+, you ought to be able to expect high quality tires, but I guess not.
When you abuse the living poop out of a tire, accelerating a 7,000 pound truck to 60 in 3 seconds, you're going to burn up any tire ever made. I'm at 8,500 miles and only 1/32 reduced. Will probably get 40,000
Should find a 303 mile route so it can be the Denver 303
I think I'm stealing this. I'll be doing the NorCal 530. 😀
Shes a natural ! But it’s funny how you let her drive 10:55 you usually never let anyone drive ! 😂
Lighter tires will help efficiency but may not last as long. Side note, sucks how expensive tires are. Try to make mine last the maximum amount till unsafe. But honestly sometimes get bored and want to replace them sooner lol. Just so expensive.
What is happening with the sunshade? I swear I am seeing two different shades going from shot to shot
Didn't you guys trade in that Cyber Fridge on a VW Van?
I love CT and that’s why I own it too 😊
Can you guys test truck toppers too. That would be awesome!
Andre where's the chivalry man!!!!!!??? Making Jen change the tires bro???? Haha something tells me she's done it way more than Andre...
It's dope that she used to do tires and seems to be an actual car enthusiast too.
He’s Russian. Dgaf
How is it a surprise when Tesla directly shows the difference in range with the different tire packages they offer?
Of course such things have a range impact.
Wow I kinda expected a little more difference between the two.
seems like you probably finished the 2nd test (more efficient test) at evening rush hour. Efficiency is potentially better in any EV in such a situation. Having your average speed (or overall time) for the test be very very close to the same would eliminate that variable and presenting it with these results would make it slightly more scientific. If it took more than 5 minutes longer to do the loop in the second test, the results are inconclusive at best.
However it was probably colder at night. Less efficient if using heat also air density is increased thus more drag.
@@mmaxx9915 I live close to where their testing takes place is so I am very familiar with the weather/atmospherics of their test. If anything, the temperature is more likely to have been a degree or two warmer in late afternoon/early evening than when they started/finished the testing early in the day. The average speed / potential for traffic slowdowns at evening rush hour will have a much greater impact to the overall range in general and in their test than the temperature related drag or cabin heating. Additionally, the wheels they used were not exactly the same, so there will be some aerodynamic difference that they have not mentioned or accounted for (and this may be similar order of magnitude as tire difference). In a perfect test, the 'better efficiency' tires are very likely to give a result similar to theirs - few up to 10 percent (maybe more) better range, but this test has not controlled the variables well enough to discriminate within the difference they found.
@@scottgregory2059 while I agree there was no exact comparison. I have looked at multi hour temperatures for the Denver area. 10am is about the same temperature on average as 5pm. Also being stalled in traffic with the heat pump on is going to cut into slower speed driving efficiency of electrics. I don’t think it’s an all or nothing point. I’m just saying the idea the efficiency is mostly due to traffic conditions is potentially countered by other mitigating factors. Supposing the degree of those factors is speculative. I believe we are playing Symantec’s here and are agreeing with each other just coming at it from different perspectives.
Maybe even less aggressive all seasons would save even more.
Cool. Interesting
Deltatonic wheels?
I primarily drive my Hyundai Ioniq 5 around town and am averaging 4.8 miles/Kwh.
K
Nobody asked
I wish you would have shown how much energy was used by the vehicle and HVAC and stuff between the two runs. Especially considering you ended the second run at night, which surely took less cooling of the vehicle components and less HVAC.
Love that wrap
You can get it added to all your vehicles; they have info in a previous video on how to buy that wrap and have it delivered to your local installer.
I hope you’re joking
Your ugly weights on the outside edges perform better then the single weight on the inside. Would be cool to see a different tire size like a tall and skinny tire.
Are they calling machined wheels forged? That seems like false advertising. Milling something out of a billet of aluminum is very different than actually forging something.
I do not think you understand what forged actually means - it 's a difference between forged and cast, not forged and milled. EVERY forged wheel is then milled ;)
The billet is forged. Seems right to me.
A forging needs to be cnc machined to get the final product
@@krzysztofiwanowski5308 yeah thats not how that works either genius. you not been around cars long? using a cnc to cut entire wheels out of a billet isnt forging no matter what mental gymnastics you try. its misleading at best and the kind of thing NZXT just got reported to the FTC for. if theyre calling them forged because theyre using forged billets and then cutting the wheel out its shady marketing on a technicality.
@@Kahless00 you are really funny, but ok - you do you
et ceteribus paribus
I doubt that you can compare these 2 rides cause you do not drive the same, have the same traffic and what not.
3/48 less ist 6,3% not 10% but even that can be completely different due to wind, temperature, traffic and driving changes cause did you adjust the inside temperature when it went dark and cold(er) .
Might be better to run 2 cars at the same time behind each other and that might make it more comparable. Here we had seen such tests with a rental car to get such results but between all season and specific EV tyres for example that also had about 5% difference.
They don’t have that ability
Owning two 100,000 cyber trucks is a lot to expect
Thats why GM pits those tiny ass tires on 1 tons just for those EPA numbers 😅
Same thing that Toyota does with the new LanCruiser. Rental car tires on an off road SUV.
She sounds exactly like SarahnTuned
Except she knows how to pronounce button correctly 😉
@jamesbeaman6337 😂
Also she’s really a woman unlike “Sarah”
🥶@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
Why is she using small chrome sockets for impacting
That's what the pros use... LOL
Thanks Roman for saving Jen from Tesla. Love her on TFL.
What happened to her on Tesla? She seemed happy to work there.
What was up with that ending? You never showed the miles per kwh on the all terrain tires.
111/45 = 2.467mi/kwh
Actually it was 52 kw needed to recar@dvwatts
@carriewerner4463 i saw that but they never gave the miles per kwh.
@@MDillonEV You can see the Wh/mi, just convert it to mi/kWh.
@@boostav i know how it just seemed an odd ending.
I think Denver 111 is better since it's slightly more unique (read 111 as 1-1-1). Denver 100 is ok even though it's a bit boring
I think they could call it the “triple sticks route”
Actually you guys used 52 kwh. Screen doesn't show total energy Consumption. Always calculate %at beginning and at end. That's true number. 42 % is 52 kwh.
The tires are wearing out after only 11,000 miles??!???
That’s what happens when you have an 800hp 3 seconds to 60 truck.
I hardly ever use a supercharger anymore. I just plug in when I get home and my Tesla is charged for the next day. We spend LESS time at the pump... not more
Who did the wheels , didn't catch it 🫠
Only 11000 miles and tires already wearing down? I knew EVs wear tires faster than ICE vehicles but that is insane.
They bought the wrong tires, like putting standard F150 tires on an F350. They focused on off road grip without considering vehicle weight.
The only issue with tires wearing fast is driving habit and weight. Electric vehicles have so much torque on demand it’s easier to drive it harder. As far as weight goes there are heavier ICE vehicles that wear tires faster than average and on par with electric.
Weight. It’s the weight…
I’m on 33k miles on my model y tires. Treads are still fine. It’s about those people that take off fast because they like the torque. Do this and it wears the tire out fast. Drive normal and you’re fine.
It’s the weight and these tires specifically, they are just cheap tires. Most tires from the manufacturer last 20-40k, however if you buy good quality name brand tires they can usually last at least 50k, with good driving.
More spinning losses from larger motors/gear train. Mostly the performance sticky tires are the reason Vs their non performance counterparts.
I'm gonna miss CT content here for sure. Can't wait to own one.
Wait about a year you'll get a used one much cheaper.
What a great test! Even better to have a tire/wheel expert like Jen who’s also a Tesla expert to boot! 8-10% is an enormous difference in efficiency in such an enormous truck/battery. Great data to plan with for folks that adventure these beasts out into the hinterland or spend most of their day in the Cybermonster.
This advertisement is the most adverty TFL has ever been. Like, you really hit us in the face with how addy this is, and then did it again, and again throughout. Ick.
I wimont watch anymore of your videos, now that you got rid of Cybertruck. Why would you get rid of your only electric truck? Good luck
"just lost 20 minutes of our day"... That was a stupid statement, without context.
EV owners need to be able to charge when the vehicle is NOT IN USE, which for most people is over 90 percent of the time. So assuming someone can charge when the vehicle is not in use then they will save time because they NEVER have to go to a gas station.
The most important thing for mass EV adoption is access to level 2 charging at home, work and other places a vehicle is parked for an extended period of time. Fast charging should only be necessary for road tripping and when road tripping it shouldn't be a big deal to take a 20 minute break from driving. The last thing we want to do is replicate the gas station model with EVs. (Having said that, fast charging is improving every year but the infrastructure will lag behind the top end. The top end is already nearly twice as fast as that Cybertruck charge.)
Of course there are exceptions for people who drive (and tow) a lot but that is the exception to the rule for daily vehicle use. The rule is cars sit idle MOST OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. (Which is why transportation as a service, with autonomous EVs, is going to be HUGE!)
The lighter wheels improved the trucks performance? I call bullsh!t.
Are you serious😂
And now you’ve traded the Cyber Truck in what happened to the 2 sets of tires and wheels…..and what tires and wheels were on the Cyber Truck when it was sent to PA
A new set of tires every 10k miles is 10 sets of tires in 100k miles which is over $10k in tire costs. So much for fuel savings!
Why do people always assume “trying to save the planet” attitude on a tesla purchase when it’s usually because of the insane torque and performance.
u think tires are 250$ a piece haaa haa
But but but no oil changes!!
The OEM tires wear out quickly, after that you put on a good set of regular tires and get 50K or 60k out of them like would on any other vehicle. The OEM tires have a shallow tread depth for greater range. You can find CT videos on this.
Ya, but you're saving the environment... LOL.
It’s frustrating (and somewhat infuriating) that you did not do ANY off road tests with proper tires on the CyberTruck. I and many others mentioned this in prior videos and you said you would. Very disappointing. You really dropped the ball on this one. Shame.
yes woman
That wrap makes me never want to watch this channel
Love the wrap. God Bless America.
TESLA is changing out the cords to much longer ones for non-tesla cars. BJ
CyberNOPE the moneypit
Jen is hot. Very cute.❤❤❤
take another down vote.
❄️ wahh
Junk vehicle
Good Damn TFL is so compromised it’s a GOD DAMN SHAME! TFL so be TSO aka Totally Sold Out for views!
All these youtube channels are business designed to create income otherwise they would not exist. Not that difficult to understand.