God: SMH, Adam and Eve couldn't follow one simple rule. Angel: So now what? God: I'm going to let them populate the Earth and in a couple thousand years I'll give the descendants 613 rules. Angel: Brilliant!!!
@@MrCanis4 that's why he needed three more books if you count the Book of Mormons. And of course add in some Hinduism Confucianism and Buddhism just to throw those people off the scent
It's funny when the Satanic Book sold better, and it's not the Diablo game level of stuff. The actual Satanic religion and nor Lucifer/Satan. Satan didn't even exist in the Old Testament. Neither Heaven nor Hell, as King Solomon explained.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 Satan aka the Devil is the constellation of the scorpion (Scorpio). See Rev. 9.5, where Satan is the leader of four winter signs/months aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. Another name of Satan is Beelzebub (lord of the flies) a title of Jesus.
@harveywabbit9541 I've heard similar connections to the 12 Zodiacs and the Sun of Most High. Not Biblical, but it is interesting. I've existed for eternities. Being human is a change of pace for me, and seeing humanity's Gods are... Well... It isn't so unique, I must say, for this iteration of existence. Dark Worlds prayed to the Dark God Creator. A world long before this iteration began.
@@michaelsbeverly well no he likes you even if "you burn" if we follow the fictionous story, so you are wrong about that. But i guess it's the dictatorship theory
@michaelsbeverly He's really up there with the entity from Skinamarink (love it or hate it), an all-powerful being who spends the entire movie torturing and tormenting two children for years. He forces the children to do its bidding while just as easily punishing them when he allows them not to do it.
You are correct. One would think that a loving God would put a "thou shall not rape children" or "Do not own another human as property" in the ten commandements.
Instead it says to not covet your neighbors manservant or maid servant. As in, it’s a given that this will happen. “Hands in the air, I give up, just don’t do X”
Incorrect. Raping children is "sexual immorality" which covers...fornication, adultery, homosexuality, lesbianism, transgenderism, lewdness, vile affections, and incest. And Israel were to treat all their bond servants (slaves) equally as human beings as God commanded them.
@@gamingwithmaya502 if you're trying, you care. There's no handbook, right? When I worried I might get it wrong, make mistakes as a mom, my dad told me just keep trying because when you care, when you love your kids, you'll sort it out. :)
When I was a Christian I used to read all those laws and wonder “what the heck?” Now that I’m free I see all of it for the hooey it has always been. Thank you for your clear, rational explanations!
@@christophergibson7155 So loving Jesus makes the horrific things in the Bible beautiful? And you wonder why so many people are deconstructing. Those kind of statements are BS and everyone knows it.
@CheckmateSurvivor do not speak of Pastor Mindshift in such ways. What church would you recommend? Bethel with papa Bill Johnson? Heard they have the HS on lockdown
@@CheckmateSurvivor Kinda hilarious how religion's basically just all like "you gotta believe us on faith alone, brother", but then gets surprised and angry when people don't find that remotely close enough in terms of reasons to fuel any convictions....
The fact that some of the levitical law contradicts itself is enough for me. The fact that it prohibits killing and later says to stone to death those that violate it is a big contradiction that challenges the “perfect law narrative”
@@Antony-bp2yh They are taking, "don't murder," as "don't kill," murder being unjustified killing- God considers execution for the breaking of his law to be justified; meaning stoning someone to death as punishment for whatever law that requires said stoning would not be considered murder in the eyes of God.
Do you think kidnapping should be illegal? If so, are you okay with the police kidnapping the kidnapper and throwing them in prison in order to teach them a lesson that kidnapping is wrong? If not, are you a prison abolitionist? What do you think should be the punishment for crimes then?
@@davidmeadows5627 I’m not claiming that modern laws are perfect. I’m pointing out that people cannot claim levitical law as perfect given it’s punishments break its own law of “you shall not kill”
Yet have you read the verse concerning those who speak such things..."A proud and haughty man-“Scoffer” is his name; He acts with arrogant pride." (Proverbs 21:24)
@@christophergibson7155 That's not particularly relevant here. Maybe you should read the verse where god actually says something that people don't already know? Oh right, there aren't any.
Are you sure they are referring to a young goat? We also have kids you know... strange sheep have lambs and goats have kids, and these are the two creatures that Jesus will divide, so I guess if you're having kids that would make you a goat... 🤔 hmmm interesting.
@@Explodington Damn, you got me. If ONLY I had known you could cure leprosy by sprinkling the blood of a dead dove using a living one on my doorframe, I wouldn't look so SILLY.
This is what I’ve been talking about. This is why your channel (I’m convinced) is going to keep ballooning, into the several hundred K domain. It has to.
I was driving by a bunch of people with signs saying “heaven or hell” and I started giggling so much. It was so threatening and they were so serious. My poor nephew had no idea why I was so amused by it.
Does this only apply to grasshoppers? The back legs are for jumping. Are the front legs of butterflies and flies mosquitos and dragonflies, not legs but arms. I detest flies and mosquitos, but not butterflies and dragonflies. As far as I can see, all insects have six legs. This verse is utterly useless to me. Why is it even in the laws from God?
I presume the greatest irony of this is that God then sent Jesus to condemn all the Jewish leaders for actually following all these instructions?.. I get caught between my head and heart quite often, but you laid these out so well, good job :)
@@MindShift-Brandon Hey there, it may be a weird time to ask this, but I've noticed that in some of your new videos that you haven't been wearing your wedding ring, and I'm just curious why. Have a nice Father's Day btw
Thank you for this Brandon. After my deconversion I have struggled to understand how others and myself, knowing all the old stories and reading through the Bible with such study and can manage to make all the excuses for Yahweh. Happy Father’s Day to you as well! Looking forward to SBS as always!
This one packs a punch, Brandon. I have friends and family who love Agent Mulder's (X-Files) poster "I want to believe." It makes them feel all warm and fuzzy. I have always hated it. It shows Mulder for being the very flawed agent that he is and how any quest for truth will be coloured by his wanting to believe. How many vile contradictions in this religion does it take to get someone to see it for what it is? 100? 1,000? I think a million wouldn't do it for someone who places I want to believe before I want to know the truth. If the contradictions makes them uncomfortable some will say - I just don't understand, yet; my faith is weak; I am a flawed creation...
Thus reinforcing the foundational ethos of Abrahamic religions: you're born a piece of crap, and maybe if you work real hard you might make up for it, but probably not. It's circular, until you. find your way out of that circle.
Happy Father's Day! I think what you said at the very end is really important for Christians to hear, quoting new verse does actually address the verses that you are challenging, it just shows more contradictions/confusions in the Bible.
Brilliant. Not that it would fit for this video but while you were talking about how the laws were retconned I couldn’t help but think about how the idea of what a messiah was supposed to be was retconned.
It's amazing that "God" commands us to love our neighbors as ourselves and doesn't condemn rape, but you have to stone to death your neighbor for having a consensual, possibly loving, relationship outside of marriage. It isn't about love. It's about obeying him and control.
I’ve heard that the "outside of marriage" thing only really applies to when a currently married person has sex with a currently unmarried person, as opposed to when 2 people who aren’t married at all do it.
@@CatDaddyGuitar I’m just saying that if 2 people who aren’t currently married have consensual sex with each other, God doesn’t care. It’s when a married person cheats on their spouse(s) that he gets pissed.
No. It is about you coming to the realization (by the grace of God alone) that you are a helpless and hopeless sinner who is in dire need of the Savior Jesus Christ. And to think otherwise is to dwell in the spiritual darkness of your sinful nature. For God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. (James 4:6) Will you humble yourself then, and come to Jesus as a little child, to receive His forgivness and cleansing from your sins?
Happy Father's day! I am glad I found you as you came around right as I left. My wife and I recently found we are having a child and im just glad I can raise them in the truth and not Christianity. Thank you for all you do and you continue to help me every video! Have a great day!
29:20 You tell 'em Brandon! Anyone who tries to use John 3.16 as a defense, will undoubtedly get the Smackdown from Brandon who is a master at using Austin 3.16 ! Great video man!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the work you put into your videos. The knowledge you have of the bible is inspiring. It makes me want to go back to my bible with a marker and pen to make notes that confirm the cultishness of christiantiy and judaism, and the ridiculousness of calling this god a loving god. As a matter of fact, I'm going back to your study of Genesis this week! Thanks for once again opening my eyes to the truth.
@@SPL0869 Not exactly sarcasm. But that is what they would have thought at the time. Today, everyone should recognize it as bull. But at the time, women are property, so you break it you buy it. Then again, you'd think God would have said something about the whole "women are property" thing too...
Let me get this straight. God gave Adam one commandment and he failed in keeping it. So God, in his infinite wisdom, mercy and love, gives to all humanity 613 to counter that. Makes sense to me🤔
It most certainely makes sense. When Adam fell into sin, so did the rest of mankind with him. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned. (Romans 5:12) And the law was given as guide, tutor, or teacher to bring us to Christ. "Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith." (Galatians 3:34) If you really desire to know the truth, you can find it in the Word of God, The Holy Bible.
@@christophergibson7155You’re not even quoting from the KJV so how can I even take you seriously? (just kidding, I was a KJV only for over 20 yrs until I started to think about the foolish of this stuff including KJV onlyism) You said that when Adam fell into sin, so did the rest of mankind with him. God gave Adam ONE commandment, don’t eat. Adam ate and sinned causing all mankind to fall with him as you quoted from the bible. So the part that don’t make sense is if Adam and now all of his progeny couldn’t keep ONE law, why would an all loving and wise God (these are just two of Gods attributes, he is far more awesome than that), give mankind 613 more laws which he knew he couldn’t keep? Please explain without quoting the bible. On another note, you quoted from Galatians 3.24. Could you go to Galatians 4.4-6 and tell me what year you were born in Israel so I can determine if you were born under the law. A birth certificate would help. Thanks.
Weird comment here,but here goes. There is an episode of American Dad in which roger had foresight. He tells the family that something bad is going to happen to them then he gets knocked out. He's out for months and the family is scared to leave there home because something bad is supposed to happen. When ge wakes up they are waiting for him to tell them the bad thing. He cant remember and he blows them off. He like i didn't think you guys would take me so seriously. I think Paul never thought centuries from then we would be reading his writings and living by them.
I don't think Paul thought there would be PEOPLE living many years after him By Jesus' own word, he was gonna come back and take all of the righteous with him to heaven in their lifetimes Of course he didn't think this through, this isn't supposed to be thought about, he had to get word out there and save as many people But it just never happened
Even after more than a decade of asking, I'm still waiting for a christian to point me to where god said that after a certain date, you're good to ignore or disobey anything in his holy scriptures if it's inconvenient, you don't personally agree with it, or it makes god look bad.
It is not different from the whole "Age of Reason" thing, where a little kid, up to a certain age, is able to sin and sin and not be punished for it because, well, until that age, they are supposedly not able to tell what sin is, let alone how to not. Obviously, there is no way to truly know if these is such a doctrine or belief, and even if there were, odds are that false info about it would be given out (given that like everything else, it would have been entirely dependent on whoever your pastor was). I remember being told that the cutoff age was 8 years old, and I was told about it... when I was 10. I distinctly remember sounding almost exactly like Chris Farley, or at least that signature calm start followed by a massive spike in volume at the end - you know: "And you waited until I aged out to *_TELL ME ABOUT IT!?"_*
@@DavidRichardson153Yeah, xtianity has a lot of arbitrary cut-offs that don't really make much sense. I still hold their feet to the fire on explaining why, if conscious existence continues, whatever brain state I'm in when my physical body dies is the ultimate factor of my external existence. The only way that would make sense (to me) would be if you could no longer learn, grow as an individual, or change. And that to me doesn't fit into any definition of "living" or being conscious that I hold.
God never said anything like that..."But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but BY EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” (words of The Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 4:4 & Luke 4:4)
@@christophergibson7155 1) He only said that to the devil, so for all we know, it was just to get the devil to shut up, and 2) everyone who supposedly did live by "every word from the mouth of God" still died, including Jesus, so... someone was the bigger liar, and it does not look like it was the devil. You really oughta stop spamming purposefully misquoted passages.
12:27 Brandon, your analysis is unparalleled. I think the reasons why Rabbi Hillel, Jesus and Paul, for example, focus on the “ love of neighbor” bit to summarize the Torah, are due to the new social, cultural, and political contexts they find themselves in. With the emphasis, in the second-temple period, of adapting the Torah to everyday life even in the diaspora, it forces adherents to negotiate with and change the meaning of their sacred texts. I think the “love” aspect also makes the second-temple Jewish religion more palatable to their neighboring “ pagans”.
Just the fact that modern day Christianity follows Paul, not Jesus. The religion should be called Paulanity. In fact, one could easily argue the case that Jesus warned about someone coming in his own name and that they'll listen to him rather than what he said and that's not even mentioning everything Jesus said about the Pharisees. Paul brags about being a Pharisee (not was...IS). I'm certain that Rome did what was common in those days... they found a Trojan horse into the rabbinical circle with Paul, Marcion led the horse and Constantine demanded everyone believe it's a gift.
Nope. Paul was given the revelation of Jesus Christ. And everything Paul preached, taught, and lived, was founded on the gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ. You are in great error concerning this. "For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ." (Galatians 1:12) "To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things]through Jesus Christ." (Ephesians 3:8-9)
@@christophergibson7155 No, Paul basically tried to replace jesus. He even tried one-upping other characters in scripture to "prove" himself; there was no revelation, just subversion and wishful thinking.
@@christophergibson7155Paul saying it doesn't make it true. Paul never encountered "Jesus." He either suffered a mental breakdown from his activities against the REAL Christians like Peter and John, or suffered heat stroke with hallucinations. No one else saw it happen. So, no story backup, I call hogwash. Or like is said now days, pictures, or it didnt happen. You KNOW his preaching was errant...in Acts, during one of his visits to Jerusalem, he was forced to undergo a "Nazirite Vow," and admit he was teaching a false gospel. The 4 gospels are the truth, not Paul's construct from his deranged mind. True Christians follow Jesus the Christ's teaching. Jesus was not a Christian. Go away now, you believer in false Pauline teaching.
@@christophergibson7155So why don’t we have anything written down by Jesus? He had decades to write his message, and yet we have no tablets of stone, no carvings, no books, no manuscripts, not even a scribble on the back of a napkin. Nothing. The “perfect plan of god” left no trace except for second-hand stories and rumours. The writings of Paul were derived from Hebrew scripture mixed with voices in his head. Whether he genuinely believed the sh… uh stuff he wrote, or was a grifter taking advantage of the early Christians (he seemed quite interested in making sure that preachers got paid), I don’t know (but I tend towards grifter). But the undeniable fact remains that we have no writings from Jesus, only reports made from word-of-mouth (or straight-up imagined in the case of Paul).
the laws are their favorite parts because every Jesus follower I've ever met finds their conscience eased by the fact that no one can possibly follow the laws as intended, and that through Jesus, they're excused for the failure. This gets expanded into treating fellow humans terribly and think that just telling God how bad they feel about what they did instead of actually making real amends and facing consequences. I can see the appeal of being able to feel better about being an awful person by talking to an imaginary friend who says they forgive you every time. I wish i could allow myself to be that oblivious to my impact on the world around me. But no... when i behave poorly and feel guilty for it, to feel better i have to actually attempt to make it right. The expansive nature of biblical law is pretty much just a way for them to keep pointing out how impossible it is to be good and THAT is what allows them to minimize ANY behavior in their daily life. "Jesus knows I'm awful and still loves me." It's sick.
Yet another on point video from you that takes what I was taught for 30 years and opens my eyes to the insanity I wish I’d seen much sooner. Reminds me of the NT verse talking about Jesus opening the scriptures to listeners… but not with the conclusions Christians approve.
Feel the love lol. The first time I heard the term biblical gaslighting I was thinking what a great description of this loving God. I would find more info on how Jesus came to save the Jews or at least mostly focused on the Jew and not the gentile. This was really good. Thanks for doing these. You're providing a valuable service.
Excellent as usual, Brandon. You are changing the world and lives for the good... better than you hoped to do as Christian. Imagine that. "It's Insane!"
More and more it seems the bible is not for us, it was for a specific group at a specific time and others took it, added to it and then applied it for some others at a specific time, at a specific place... like Bart Erman has said, Christianity is a religion about Jesus, not necessarily the religion of Jesus.
Right, such laws are updated (and or completely ignored) to modern sense and sensibilities. The commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” is reinterpret away from actual historical deities such as Baal, Chemosh, Asteroth into personal "Gods" such as desire, greed, lust, envy, war etc (FYI according to the prevailing social/cultural norms of the times). There is nothing writ into our animal hearts by the gods. We are here to procreate all the while struggling to derive personal meaning and cosmic significance from that.
You are only deceivng yourself. "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12) "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. (Mark 13:31) "“It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” (Matthew 4:4 & Luke 4:4)
@@christophergibson7155 You are only deceiving yourself. "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” Man lives by the illusion of the self that the brain creates for itself. For instance what creates hunger if not the brain? There is no one (a metaphysical thing a soul/spirit) inside the brain (or heart) that receives the sensation of hunger but rather it is the brain that determines and measures if it lacks therefore needs kilocalories of energy. There are these little thermostats and measuring scales placed inside the body/brain by the DNA. FYI DNA evolved most likely from RNA just in case if you want to claim that God also created the DNA. "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. Heaven as in the entirety of the universe as heaven will pass away? Not anytime soon Jesus. And speaking of soon... "but My words will by no means pass away." Oh good, that means even more time to find even more contradictions, additions, redactions throughout the so called inerrant bible. Can't wait to finally find out what Jesus meant by salt loosing is saltiness or what Paul meant by seeds dying and rebirthing. And how difficult would of been to just stay silent on the shape of the earth instead of just "borrowing" from the best hits of other creation myths? "by bread alone," Well at least Angels and Demons don't have to eat... but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” Is that saying supposed to impress anyone? Cancer is caused by Cells and not by Sin. I don't recall people living longer or shorter life spans just by God talking (a coffee shop chit chat) directly to them. One can pray (or meditate) their head off and it will not make them live a second longer. No human being has been able to transcend death thus far. You say Jesus did? Well prove it then!
@@Firestorm12345678910and the irony of the word Ba'al is it's all through the bible but been reinterpreted as _'Lord'_ 😂😂😂 so these theists *are praying to Ba'al* !!
Thank you for making the 20 cases against Christianity playlist! I'm never gonna be able to remember and memorize all the inconsistency in the bible so it's nice to just send someone that playlist if they ask me why I'm not a Christian anymore. Awesome video as always, keep up the amazing work!! 💪
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Hey Brandon, I know you aren't a big social media guy so I figured I'll pass this along as someone who is I have started getting ads about a book called "the Bible uncomplicated" by James Finke looks to be pretty standard apologetic stuff with an ever so SLIGHT bend to it. I think you doing a review and dissection might be interesting especially because if you do a video about something someone else is already promoting that's free advertising! 😂 Either way figured I'd pass it along, great video 👌
hey brandon! great video again and i'm totally with you on all of this. i just wanted to offer a devil's advocate perspective that i was taught in my years of listening to the 'grace' message, and i might get some details wrong becasue i've been out of all of it for 2-3 years now. i believe there is a verse that states "by the law is the knowledge of sin", i think there are more verses that hint towards this - so they teach that the law is like a mirror, it's full of a bunch of various laws solely for the purpose of showing humans how beyond impossible it is for them to uphold everything, making them aware of their 'sinful nature', and point them to the need for a savior as the only one who could fulfill it for them. all of the sacrifices offering forgiveness of sin were symbolic of the one "ultimate sacrifice" that would permanently cleanse/transform people who accept it. this was honestly a beautiful message to me, but there were still so many problems & questions that never made any sense to me, and no one could answer, which made it ultimately never feel like true love.
I'm going to push back on you here. But it won't be flattering for the Christians. John 14:15 says, "If you love me, follow my commands." In a Trinitarian view, that means following all 613 laws would apply to loving god. Not because of what they command, but rather that the act of obedience is considered love for god. This would absolutely track with Eden and the Fall as well, to make it an originally established precedent. The difficulty arises when loving god (the greater command) conflicts with loving others (the lesser command). This gives rise to the justification of DCT like gen*cide and buying slaves from neighboring countries. WLC entirely backs this up and only finds his refuge in the fact that outside of the Bible it is nearly impossible to establish if one has really received a command from god. But you are spot on that this is a good topic to highlight that Jesus and Paul were not on the same page. As Paul repeatedly leaves out loving god with all your heart. IMO to alleviate the cog diss of serving 2 masters.
John 14:15, is Jesus speaking of the Mosaic law or the commandment that He has given to His disciples? The context of what and when He said it matters. Starting at John 13, until John 19 is the last 6 hours of Jesus life. In So we should read around that text. John 14:12-17 ESV "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father. 13] Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14] If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. 15] "If you love me, you will keep my commandments. 16] And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, 17] even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. At this point Jesus is referring to the specific commandment that He has given to the disciples now the law of Moses, not only because it doesn’t fit the contexts of the verses (law of Moses) but within a few hours He will die on the cross and declare that “it is finished”, the law has been fulfilled in Him, so keeping the law is not an issue anymore for those in Christ.
@darinbracy8433 This depends on if you're a trinitarian and think that Jesus is the person who issued the 613. You should read your Old Testament more, especially Ps. 119. For the context of the Torah being perfect and timeless. The context you provided didn't mention commands or laws except in the verse I originally provided. Also, fulfilled is not abolished. The rest of that quote is Jesus warning that anyone who doesn't follow or teaches not to follow the law will be the least in the kingdom of God. I guess my question for you would be: How do you determine which commands of Jesus you can ignore and still love him as he says, if you think he gave the 613? You say Christians don't have to keep the law. Does that apply to stealing, idolatry, and murder? Or just keeping the Sabbath, mixed fabrics, and boiling baby goats in their mom's milk?
@@B.S._Lewis Well I don’t know where you are getting your theology from but it’s like your name. First you don’t understand the reason for the law, you are just seeing it as an eternal hammer to beat people over the head with. What do you think the word fulfillment means? If you fulfill the terms of the agreement then the contract ends. The law is a part of the Mosaic Covenant, the children of Israel were unable to fulfill the law, they were unworthy. Jesus fulfilled the law completely and perfectly, He was sinless and being sinless in His righteous we are declared justified. Romans 5:15-21 ESV But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. [16] And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. [17] For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. [18] Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. [19] For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. [20] Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [21] so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
@darinbracy8433 lol. First, you don't understand what laws are in general. They are not contracts to be fulfilled, but guidelines to govern acceptable behavior in a society. Apparently, you and Jesus have this ignorance in common. How preposterous is it to say that if someone in your country never got in trouble with the law until they died, that now no one has to follow any laws... How bout stepping back from your theology book and start cracking some logic books open? Oh yeah and not ignoring what the Old Testament said about the law in favor of Paul.
@@B.S._Lewis The Bible isn’t just a run of the mill law book. You are applying secular principles that don’t apply nor existed when the Bible was written. The Bible is the redemptive history of God redeeming mankind to Himself through Christ. The law isn’t the chosen method of redemption, it’s a mirror to show man’s inability to redeem himself. This is why in Genesis 3:15, it is God who promises to provide a a way of redemption. God gives the law to men, keep the law and live in paradise violate the law and get kicked out. They violate the law over and over and God kicks them out. Jesus comes to fulfill God’s promises from Genesis 3:15, and He fulfills the law perfectly and because He’s perfect He can be the perfect sacrifice that redeems mankind from all the violations of the law. Hence when we accept Christ we are given His righteousness and we are justified through His grace on the cross.
Your verb 'retcon' I've never heard of before but it describes perfectly what you accurately and honestly say that Paul is actively doing with Christian doctrine in order to correct and repair the crippling effects of archaic Old Testament commandments. Your summary analysis and insight is brilliant.
HEY DADDY O I don't wanna go down to the basement, there's somethin' down there, I don't wanna go, Hey! Romeo ugh, there's somethin' down there... References; Dan Barker and his comedy bit about not having to go down to the basement, also song and lyrics are by The Ramones who wrote it way before Dan got ahold of the concept, are the Ramones prophets? 🤔 because I'm pretty sure Dan never listened to the Ramones. Anyways happy Father's day Brandon I'm glad to see there are still good role models out there.
I saw this Dan Barker argument yesterday. Man, that was powerful. The power of religious mind control and childhood indoctrination is obvious when you listen to that analogy.
I'm so glad you did this bc I always had in the back of my mind that I was pretty sure the 'love your neighbor and God with all your heart' did not cover all 613 laws but hadn't gotten around to checking each and every one. Also, when I started menstruating, I was still a believer, so in an unrealistic frame of mind, and picked up on the fact that being a female sexual being was sinful so I hated it and wanted nothing to do with it. Then I hear those verses about being unclean and that women at that time were supposed to go outside the village. That really P'sed me off bc I thought it was bad enough to have to deal with it once a month but then to be punished by God and others bc of it? IDK -it just seemed like 'cruel and unusual punishment' to me... especially since God was the one that made me have it.
Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law. So that one guy that was stoned to death for picking up sticks on the sabbath in violation of the Law was loved to death as it were? Why do we take this Paul guy seriously at all. The man does not have a clue what he is talking about.
Here is an interesting and very wrong Jesus statement when he tried to get out of being stoned by the Pharisees: John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods"’? No that is wrong because Psalm 82:6 mentions Gods (even if interpreted as Angels the same error remains) and not mortal man. And this begs the question was Jesus actually there in the garden of eden as the trinity when God (as the trinity) cut Adam and Eve off from the immortality granting tree of life? Clearly Jesus is unable to distinguish between mortal mankind (who are not immortal) and the gods (who are immortal).
But it is you who has not understood what the Word of God is saying. You MUST BE born again, to SEE and ENTER the kingdom of God. (John 3:3,5,7) Otherwise, you are looking from the outside only. "But the natural(soulish) man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned...(void of the Spirit). 1 Corinthians 2:14
@christophergibson7155 I was a Christian. With your logic you can't prove other religions, other than yours, as false because you are only looking from the outside and haven't received the truth and insight after conversion.
Rabbi Hillel (who died in 10CE) was asked to teach the whole of the Torah while standing on 1 foot (apparently the inquirer wanted a short answer) so Rabbi Hillel told him this: "Do not do unto your friend that which is hateful to you. That is the entire Torah; the rest is commentary. Now go and study." This is found in the Talmud & comes from a man who lived before Jesus or Paul allegedly lived I personally don't believe that the "gospels" record anything that Jesus said I think that the author of Mark took a smattering of what some 1st century Rabbis were saying or maybe he just took what Paul said & reimagined it coming from the mouth of Jesus so if Paul said it before "Jesus" said it most likely he had heard some Rabbis repeating what Rabbi Hillel had said the problem with Paul is that there a lot of things in his "authentic letters" that seem to indicate that there are some expansions being made to fit the narrative of the rest of the NT but that is really another so yeah if "Paul" & "Jesus" were guilty of retconning the Torah I guess Rabbi Hillel was guilty also just a guess but from what little I know about Rabbi Hillel he seems to interested in making Judaism more palatable to gentiles along the same lines of making Judaism more palatable to gentiles is the idea of Noahide laws as found in Genesis where God gives Noah "7 commands" this idea is also reflected in Acts where the summation of the so-called council at Jerusalem mirrors the laws given to Noah as far as the anti-sorcery laws are concerned sorcery was associated with idolatry I think this is the root of the problem that monotheism is less inclusive than polytheism the whole Torah seems to be bent on getting the "people" to worship only one god & to denigrate all other gods polytheism allows more diversity by letting people decide which gods they prefer to worship whereas monotheism tends toward exclusion of other people's ideas so I think that that was the biggest mistake that those Judaeans made when they went to Alexandria in 273 BCE to write the Torah I wonder what they would have thought about the chaos this seems to have caused in 164 BCE & the way that the Hasmoneans ruled when they came to power in 140 BCE & finally the way the Judaeans rebelled against Rome ending in the disaster of 70 CE if they had just accepted Greek & Roman gods alongside all the Hebrew gods (even the ones that they started throwing away) maybe no tragedy would have occurred such is the way of monotheism only to live with the idea of always being persecuted but having to persecute polytheists to maintain a narrative
Hi Brandon, the verse in the O.T., that says, ‘Thou Shalt Not Suffer A Witch To Live’, is that a later addition/interpretation? As I didn’t witches existed in those days, as we understand Witchcraft in the Modern sense…..
Hi Brandon, happy father's day. Im sure this question has been asked but: if Jesus was supposed to be the ultimate/inevitable sacrifice (without blemish/sin), why wasn't he sacrificed/killed in the Temple? Per the Law and rituals? Why wasn't he killed on the altar? Abraham almost sacrificed his son on an 'altar'; wouldn't it have been 'better' for the son of god to be sacrificed on the super-altar in the Temple? I haven't seen any discussion on this, but admittedly I haven't looked deeply as I i just thought of this.
That's an excellent question. I never thought about that. There's so many laws about how to sacrifice someone but in this most important case, eh, just whatever Rome does is fine. The added suffering makes the blood magic work better. lol
It's really obvious that yahweh is nothing like believers describe him to be. The tri-omni properties are nowhere to be found in the bible, if anything, the bible proves he's lacking in ways even humans are not, but modern apologetics don't actually care about what the bible says; they adjusted god to fit their arguments and that's all they care about. If they can get you to stop thinking and stop recognizing the problems, that's all they need. Paul is just like the modern apologist thats just trying to sell the grift.
A limited god amongst a pantheon of other gods makes the bible read much more coherently. The idea of this god being an all-knowing and all-powerful being is laughable.
The Old Testament is so clearly meant for, specifically and exclusively, Israel. Even Jesus believed this to be true, considering he told Canaanite woman in Matthew 15 that he is only here for the “lost sheep of the house of Israel”. All these commandments are meant for Israel, then reframed by Paul to sell to the masses. Another great video, Brandon. Thanks again for these videos!
This is great, Brandon! The old/new Law has always struck me as a rather blatant case of God contradictory nature, actions, and commandments. As a side note, I think you would really enjoy Ludwig Feuerbach’s “The Essence of Religion”. Feuerbach was one of the foundational humanist and atheist philosophers and, at *maybe* 150 pages, it is both short and dashingly brilliant. I promise it’d be right up your alley if you ever see it and wanna give it a read :)
@@MindShift-Brandon LOL, I meant that as a dark tongue in cheek joke, but by today's standards at current silver prices about $522.18 (550 grams where a shekel is equal to 11 grams of silver). Yikes.
Mike Winger should do a video informing Christians the correct adjusted for inflation amount. Dads are probably getting ripped off and they would be able to tithe more if it was corrected. Oh wait, he’s too busy making videos about how Christians will rejoice when they watch their loved ones get cast into the lake of fire.
Brandon: In your video, you say that "don't boil a calf in its mother's milk" is one of the '10' commandments in Exodus 23. I've heard this elsewhere too. But isn't the Exodus version of the 10 commandments in Exodus 20? Can you clarify? I'm confused. Also, is there any place in the OT that sets apart the 10 (whichever version of them you like) as being more important that the hundreds of other commandments? (Eg. 'thou shalt really keep these 10, but the others not so much' ). Or is the focus 'The 10' non-scriptural? Thanks & thanks for another quality video.
You should be confused lol. Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and the "Ritual Decalogue" of Exodus 34:11-26. Be sure on the last one to read the first 10 verses.
Love, love, love. Love, love, love. Love, love, love. All you need is love. All you need is love. All you need is love, love. Love is all you need. - Beatles 69:1
Yeah, it's ridiculous. I always reply that it's great we can throw out the OT so now we don't have to believe in original sin or the creation story, etc.
When Christ came and died on the Cross the bondage of the law and sin both were dealt with forever more. Or don’t seek relief from the law and sin at the Cross and remain bound by both. Go by the Faith God gives you and go to the Cross and become a new Creation or stay in your own Godless nature and eventually die of your sins overall. The message of the Cross is foolishness to those that are perishing 1Corinthians 1v18 But life given to those who go and find relief from the bondage of sin at the Cross.
Science lesson: there are no four legged insects. By definition, an insect has six legs. There are bugs that seem to have four, like locusts, but locust swarms were used as supplemental food (having decimated crops) even in Israel. My commentary: The Israelites knew there were six legs on locusts, despite the appearance of having four. So this was a rule for absolutely nothing? Or this was a way to avoid saying, “Bring me your meat, and go eat bugs.”
Happy Fathers Day, all! Out with the kids right now, but will be on later to get to all comments!
Happy Father’s Day
Now let's talk about evolution and the spinning ball.
Why would God want to torture us on a spinning ball?
@@CheckmateSurvivor Why would people think the earth is flat when it obviously isn't?
Same right back attcha man!
Hey brotha, the Beatles said it best. All you need is love. Pass the magic mushrooms...
God: SMH, Adam and Eve couldn't follow one simple rule.
Angel: So now what?
God: I'm going to let them populate the Earth and in a couple thousand years I'll give the descendants 613 rules.
Angel: Brilliant!!!
but just to a few goat herders in some god forsaken sandbox.
@@MrCanis4 that's why he needed three more books if you count the Book of Mormons. And of course add in some Hinduism Confucianism and Buddhism just to throw those people off the scent
One rule...that they had no knowledge of. 😂
Don't you love that god's plan makes absolutely no sense right from the very beginning?
I imagined this conversation as a DarkMatter2525 cartoon with Yahweh and the angel Jeffrey 😆
Imagine Paul looking at the OT laws and thinking, "damn I'll never be able to sell that to anyone".
LOL! I'm shocked they sold it to the Jews. But people believe all kinds of silly things.
It's funny when the Satanic Book sold better, and it's not the Diablo game level of stuff. The actual Satanic religion and nor Lucifer/Satan.
Satan didn't even exist in the Old Testament. Neither Heaven nor Hell, as King Solomon explained.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615
Satan aka the Devil is the constellation of the scorpion (Scorpio). See Rev. 9.5, where Satan is the leader of four winter signs/months aka Sagittarius thru Pisces. Another name of Satan is Beelzebub (lord of the flies) a title of Jesus.
@harveywabbit9541
I've heard similar connections to the 12 Zodiacs and the Sun of Most High. Not Biblical, but it is interesting.
I've existed for eternities. Being human is a change of pace for me, and seeing humanity's Gods are... Well... It isn't so unique, I must say, for this iteration of existence.
Dark Worlds prayed to the Dark God Creator. A world long before this iteration began.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 Yet the revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ brought these truths to the forefront.
Happy Father's Day, Brandon!
"Love me or Burn," they say...."And if you give in to my demands, I'll love you back. Isn't that special?"
Thanks so much, Michael!
When you put it like that; the god of the Bible is a movie villain
@@elliottpaine9259 The most villainous character in fiction.
@@michaelsbeverly well no he likes you even if "you burn" if we follow the fictionous story, so you are wrong about that. But i guess it's the dictatorship theory
@michaelsbeverly He's really up there with the entity from Skinamarink (love it or hate it), an all-powerful being who spends the entire movie torturing and tormenting two children for years. He forces the children to do its bidding while just as easily punishing them when he allows them not to do it.
You are correct. One would think that a loving God would put a "thou shall not rape children" or "Do not own another human as property" in the ten commandements.
Instead it says to not covet your neighbors manservant or maid servant. As in, it’s a given that this will happen. “Hands in the air, I give up, just don’t do X”
Incorrect. Raping children is "sexual immorality" which covers...fornication, adultery, homosexuality, lesbianism, transgenderism, lewdness, vile affections, and incest. And Israel were to treat all their bond servants (slaves) equally as human beings as God commanded them.
@@christophergibson7155 People who justify slavery are bad people. And you're justifying slavery. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@dasbus9834 Therefore by your own words, you do not understand the slavery (servitude) of the O.T.
@@christophergibson7155 I do. That's why I can call anyone who justifies it a bad person. And that's putting it mildly.
to those of you who love being a dad and do it right, happy father's day!
Not sure if I do it right, but I try not to repeat my mistakes.
@@gamingwithmaya502 if you're trying, you care. There's no handbook, right? When I worried I might get it wrong, make mistakes as a mom, my dad told me just keep trying because when you care, when you love your kids, you'll sort it out. :)
We all do the best we can. Thank you
Happy Father's Day Brandon ❤ Your children are so fortunate to have such a wonderful person as a Dad!
Thank you for that!
@karenmiller6088 Yes! I was about to post the same. Brandon's kids have the best Dad!❤ Happy Father's Day, my brilliant brother!!😊
When I was a Christian I used to read all those laws and wonder “what the heck?” Now that I’m free I see all of it for the hooey it has always been. Thank you for your clear, rational explanations!
You are just making excuses. If you didn't know and love Jesus, then I guess it seemed like "hooey" to you.
@@christophergibson7155 "You are just making excuses." Now here's all the reasons the Bible doesn't say what it says!
@@Explodingtonthe excuses Gibbly makes are hilarious!!
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So loving Jesus makes the horrific things in the Bible beautiful? And you wonder why so many people are deconstructing. Those kind of statements are BS and everyone knows it.
@@christophergibson7155I’m curious as to why you watch this stuff. You are not going to change anyone’s mind I can assure you
Ahh… my Sunday sermons
Happy Father’s day Brandon!
Thank you!
You've just found the wrong church.
@CheckmateSurvivor do not speak of Pastor Mindshift in such ways. What church would you recommend? Bethel with papa Bill Johnson? Heard they have the HS on lockdown
@@CheckmateSurvivor Kinda hilarious how religion's basically just all like "you gotta believe us on faith alone, brother", but then gets surprised and angry when people don't find that remotely close enough in terms of reasons to fuel any convictions....
@@PittPens6866 Your name 666 says it all.
The fact that some of the levitical law contradicts itself is enough for me. The fact that it prohibits killing and later says to stone to death those that violate it is a big contradiction that challenges the “perfect law narrative”
Where does it contradict?
@@Antony-bp2yh They are taking, "don't murder," as "don't kill," murder being unjustified killing- God considers execution for the breaking of his law to be justified; meaning stoning someone to death as punishment for whatever law that requires said stoning would not be considered murder in the eyes of God.
Do you think kidnapping should be illegal? If so, are you okay with the police kidnapping the kidnapper and throwing them in prison in order to teach them a lesson that kidnapping is wrong? If not, are you a prison abolitionist? What do you think should be the punishment for crimes then?
@@chadkndr the thing is the Bible doesn’t say don’t murder. It literally says, “you shall not kill.”
@@davidmeadows5627 I’m not claiming that modern laws are perfect. I’m pointing out that people cannot claim levitical law as perfect given it’s punishments break its own law of “you shall not kill”
I used to lie awake at night worrying about what kind of milk to boil my young goat in...thank heaven there is a law about it!
Yet have you read the verse concerning those who speak such things..."A proud and haughty man-“Scoffer” is his name; He acts with arrogant pride." (Proverbs 21:24)
@@christophergibson7155 That's not particularly relevant here. Maybe you should read the verse where god actually says something that people don't already know? Oh right, there aren't any.
@@toastcrunch9387 I bet you didn't know that you can lay different types of sticks out to change the color of an animal's offspring.
Are you sure they are referring to a young goat? We also have kids you know... strange sheep have lambs and goats have kids, and these are the two creatures that Jesus will divide, so I guess if you're having kids that would make you a goat... 🤔 hmmm interesting.
@@Explodington Damn, you got me. If ONLY I had known you could cure leprosy by sprinkling the blood of a dead dove using a living one on my doorframe, I wouldn't look so SILLY.
This video was incredibly useful to me, especially since I am currently deconstructing. Thank you, MindShift!😅
My pleasure!
This is what I’ve been talking about. This is why your channel (I’m convinced) is going to keep ballooning, into the several hundred K domain. It has to.
Indeed.
Very kind! however the channel seems to be slowing down rapidly instead, ha. I am grateful regardless.
I was driving by a bunch of people with signs saying “heaven or hell” and I started giggling so much. It was so threatening and they were so serious. My poor nephew had no idea why I was so amused by it.
Amused that YOU are a sinner in need of the Savior Jesus Christ to save and rescue YOU from all your sin?
And why is that?
@@christophergibson7155 You are also mildly amusing. Though mostly boring.
@@dasbus9834 No excuses dasbus9834. You need the Savior Jesus Christ more than ever before.
@@christophergibson7155 He sounds pretty useless though. Too bad for you.
@@christophergibson7155 What's in it for me that's not just saving me from God's mistakes?
Listening whilst biking, I choked on my water at the law against winged insects. 😂😂
Lol enjoy the long ride!
Does this only apply to grasshoppers? The back legs are for jumping. Are the front legs of butterflies and flies mosquitos and dragonflies, not legs but arms. I detest flies and mosquitos, but not butterflies and dragonflies. As far as I can see, all insects have six legs. This verse is utterly useless to me. Why is it even in the laws from God?
@@TonyLambregts I think rationally is not gonna help you here. ;)
@@zach2980 that applies to the bible in general but this one really hurts my brain.
@@TonyLambregts
The scorpion, in Rev. 9.5, is the leader of the five signs/months in this group. How many legs does this scorpion have?
There's nothing I can think to say that you didn't already drive home brilliantly.
This video is truly excellent. No notes.
Appreciate that from you!
I presume the greatest irony of this is that God then sent Jesus to condemn all the Jewish leaders for actually following all these instructions?..
I get caught between my head and heart quite often, but you laid these out so well, good job :)
Appreciate that!
This alleged great and powerful god, consistently shows itself to be incredibly petty, puny, AND needy.
3 words we should not need for a perfect being
Indeed, just like the people that created it.
Especially one claimed to be all-knowing, all-powerful, and the manifestation of love.🙄
@@stevenpike7857 funny how soooo very coincidental that is. 🙄
Lol @@stevenpike7857
Happy Father's Day Brandon!
Thanks so much!
@@MindShift-Brandon
Hey there, it may be a weird time
to ask this, but I've noticed that in
some of your new videos that you
haven't been wearing your wedding
ring, and I'm just curious why.
Have a nice Father's Day btw
Thank you for this Brandon. After my deconversion I have struggled to understand how others and myself, knowing all the old stories and reading through the Bible with such study and can manage to make all the excuses for Yahweh. Happy Father’s Day to you as well! Looking forward to SBS as always!
Thanks so much!
This one packs a punch, Brandon. I have friends and family who love Agent Mulder's (X-Files) poster "I want to believe." It makes them feel all warm and fuzzy. I have always hated it. It shows Mulder for being the very flawed agent that he is and how any quest for truth will be coloured by his wanting to believe. How many vile contradictions in this religion does it take to get someone to see it for what it is? 100? 1,000? I think a million wouldn't do it for someone who places I want to believe before I want to know the truth. If the contradictions makes them uncomfortable some will say - I just don't understand, yet; my faith is weak; I am a flawed creation...
Thus reinforcing the foundational ethos of Abrahamic religions: you're born a piece of crap, and maybe if you work real hard you might make up for it, but probably not. It's circular, until you. find your way out of that circle.
what a wonderful point of comparison.
Happy Father’s Day everybody
Happy Father's Day! I think what you said at the very end is really important for Christians to hear, quoting new verse does actually address the verses that you are challenging, it just shows more contradictions/confusions in the Bible.
Indeed!
Thank you much!
Brilliant.
Not that it would fit for this video but while you were talking about how the laws were retconned I couldn’t help but think about how the idea of what a messiah was supposed to be was retconned.
100%
It's amazing that "God" commands us to love our neighbors as ourselves and doesn't condemn rape, but you have to stone to death your neighbor for having a consensual, possibly loving, relationship outside of marriage. It isn't about love. It's about obeying him and control.
I’ve heard that the "outside of marriage" thing only really applies to when a currently married person has sex with a currently unmarried person, as opposed to when 2 people who aren’t married at all do it.
@@lyokianhitchhiker lol semantics. I don't think there's really a difference.
@@CatDaddyGuitar I’m just saying that if 2 people who aren’t currently married have consensual sex with each other, God doesn’t care. It’s when a married person cheats on their spouse(s) that he gets pissed.
@@lyokianhitchhiker I think he cares for both, when it comes to women being chattel.
No. It is about you coming to the realization (by the grace of God alone) that you are a helpless and hopeless sinner who is in dire need of the Savior Jesus Christ. And to think otherwise is to dwell in the spiritual darkness of your sinful nature. For God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. (James 4:6) Will you humble yourself then, and come to Jesus as a little child, to receive His forgivness and cleansing from your sins?
Happy Father's day!
I am glad I found you as you came around right as I left. My wife and I recently found we are having a child and im just glad I can raise them in the truth and not Christianity. Thank you for all you do and you continue to help me every video!
Have a great day!
Thanks so much. Congrats!
29:20 You tell 'em Brandon! Anyone who tries to use John 3.16 as a defense, will undoubtedly get the Smackdown from Brandon who is a master at using Austin 3.16 ! Great video man!
Hell yeah 💀
Thanks again for all your work
Thanks so much for this!
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the work you put into your videos. The knowledge you have of the bible is inspiring. It makes me want to go back to my bible with a marker and pen to make notes that confirm the cultishness of christiantiy and judaism, and the ridiculousness of calling this god a loving god. As a matter of fact, I'm going back to your study of Genesis this week! Thanks for once again opening my eyes to the truth.
Thats so kind. thank you!
Happy Father's Day Brandon
Thanks so much and appreciate this!
Another great one! Thanks, Brandon and happy Father's day!
Thanks so much!
God wants us to wear the right kind of underwear. Haha! I love the way you state the facts, Brandon! So funny! It is so silly!
It really is just silly when you step back!
As for that rape thing and paying the father compensation. You forgot to mention that the woman must mary the rapist.
but thats great grace of god, because in that time and context, nobody would want to marry her anymore, and that would be horrible.
@@kamnale1317 Your sarcasm is noted.
@@Peter_ScheenI hope that it’s sarcasm. Because I’ve heard Christians make that same argument
@@Peter_Scheen I wonder if it is sarcasm! Only a theist would see the outcome as grace!
@@SPL0869 Not exactly sarcasm. But that is what they would have thought at the time. Today, everyone should recognize it as bull. But at the time, women are property, so you break it you buy it.
Then again, you'd think God would have said something about the whole "women are property" thing too...
Let me get this straight. God gave Adam one commandment and he failed in keeping it. So God, in his infinite wisdom, mercy and love, gives to all humanity 613 to counter that. Makes sense to me🤔
It most certainely makes sense. When Adam fell into sin, so did the rest of mankind with him. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.
(Romans 5:12) And the law was given as guide, tutor, or teacher to bring us to Christ. "Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith." (Galatians 3:34) If you really desire to know the truth, you can find it in the Word of God, The Holy Bible.
@@christophergibson7155You’re not even quoting from the KJV so how can I even take you seriously? (just kidding, I was a KJV only for over 20 yrs until I started to think about the foolish of this stuff including KJV onlyism)
You said that when Adam fell into sin, so did the rest of mankind with him. God gave Adam ONE commandment, don’t eat. Adam ate and sinned causing all mankind to fall with him as you quoted from the bible. So the part that don’t make sense is if Adam and now all of his progeny couldn’t keep ONE law, why would an all loving and wise God (these are just two of Gods attributes, he is far more awesome than that), give mankind 613 more laws which he knew he couldn’t keep? Please explain without quoting the bible.
On another note, you quoted from Galatians 3.24. Could you go to Galatians 4.4-6 and tell me what year you were born in Israel so I can determine if you were born under the law. A birth certificate would help. Thanks.
Great to see you back on YT buddy. Hope we'll get more videos again!
Weird comment here,but here goes. There is an episode of American Dad in which roger had foresight. He tells the family that something bad is going to happen to them then he gets knocked out. He's out for months and the family is scared to leave there home because something bad is supposed to happen. When ge wakes up they are waiting for him to tell them the bad thing. He cant remember and he blows them off. He like i didn't think you guys would take me so seriously. I think Paul never thought centuries from then we would be reading his writings and living by them.
I don't think Paul thought there would be PEOPLE living many years after him
By Jesus' own word, he was gonna come back and take all of the righteous with him to heaven in their lifetimes
Of course he didn't think this through, this isn't supposed to be thought about, he had to get word out there and save as many people
But it just never happened
@@bbittercoffee because none of it is real. It is all made up
Learning retcon is short for retroactive continuity is, quite possibly, the most shocking thing I've learned from this channel.
lol!
Smashing video. I love that you list all the source verses and talk about numerous examples.
Thanks so much!
You get better and better with every video, Brandon!
Thank you much!
I’m behind on my videos, but I wanted to wait till I had time to really appreciate it. It was so worth the wait Brandon thank you.
Even after more than a decade of asking, I'm still waiting for a christian to point me to where god said that after a certain date, you're good to ignore or disobey anything in his holy scriptures if it's inconvenient, you don't personally agree with it, or it makes god look bad.
Right?!
It is not different from the whole "Age of Reason" thing, where a little kid, up to a certain age, is able to sin and sin and not be punished for it because, well, until that age, they are supposedly not able to tell what sin is, let alone how to not.
Obviously, there is no way to truly know if these is such a doctrine or belief, and even if there were, odds are that false info about it would be given out (given that like everything else, it would have been entirely dependent on whoever your pastor was). I remember being told that the cutoff age was 8 years old, and I was told about it... when I was 10. I distinctly remember sounding almost exactly like Chris Farley, or at least that signature calm start followed by a massive spike in volume at the end - you know:
"And you waited until I aged out to *_TELL ME ABOUT IT!?"_*
@@DavidRichardson153Yeah, xtianity has a lot of arbitrary cut-offs that don't really make much sense. I still hold their feet to the fire on explaining why, if conscious existence continues, whatever brain state I'm in when my physical body dies is the ultimate factor of my external existence. The only way that would make sense (to me) would be if you could no longer learn, grow as an individual, or change. And that to me doesn't fit into any definition of "living" or being conscious that I hold.
God never said anything like that..."But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but BY EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” (words of The Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 4:4 & Luke 4:4)
@@christophergibson7155 1) He only said that to the devil, so for all we know, it was just to get the devil to shut up, and 2) everyone who supposedly did live by "every word from the mouth of God" still died, including Jesus, so... someone was the bigger liar, and it does not look like it was the devil.
You really oughta stop spamming purposefully misquoted passages.
Appreciate the clarity of thought you bring to these discussions - thank you!
12:27 Brandon, your analysis is unparalleled.
I think the reasons why Rabbi Hillel, Jesus and Paul, for example, focus on the “ love of neighbor” bit to summarize the Torah, are due to the new social, cultural, and political contexts they find themselves in. With the emphasis, in the second-temple period, of adapting the Torah to everyday life even in the diaspora, it forces adherents to negotiate with and change the meaning of their sacred texts.
I think the “love” aspect also makes the second-temple Jewish religion more palatable to their neighboring “ pagans”.
Thank you!
Just the fact that modern day Christianity follows Paul, not Jesus. The religion should be called Paulanity. In fact, one could easily argue the case that Jesus warned about someone coming in his own name and that they'll listen to him rather than what he said and that's not even mentioning everything Jesus said about the Pharisees. Paul brags about being a Pharisee (not was...IS). I'm certain that Rome did what was common in those days... they found a Trojan horse into the rabbinical circle with Paul, Marcion led the horse and Constantine demanded everyone believe it's a gift.
Nope. Paul was given the revelation of Jesus Christ. And everything Paul preached, taught, and lived, was founded on the gospel of The Lord Jesus Christ. You are in great error concerning this. "For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ." (Galatians 1:12) "To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things]through Jesus Christ." (Ephesians 3:8-9)
@@christophergibson7155 No, Paul basically tried to replace jesus. He even tried one-upping other characters in scripture to "prove" himself; there was no revelation, just subversion and wishful thinking.
@@christophergibson7155 Then you ought to be Mormon. Paul was just a Joseph Smith that came along early enough to make it into the Bible.
@@christophergibson7155Paul saying it doesn't make it true. Paul never encountered "Jesus." He either suffered a mental breakdown from his activities against the REAL Christians like Peter and John, or suffered heat stroke with hallucinations. No one else saw it happen. So, no story backup, I call hogwash. Or like is said now days, pictures, or it didnt happen. You KNOW his preaching was errant...in Acts, during one of his visits to Jerusalem, he was forced to undergo a "Nazirite Vow," and admit he was teaching a false gospel. The 4 gospels are the truth, not Paul's construct from his deranged mind. True Christians follow Jesus the Christ's teaching. Jesus was not a Christian. Go away now, you believer in false Pauline teaching.
@@christophergibson7155So why don’t we have anything written down by Jesus? He had decades to write his message, and yet we have no tablets of stone, no carvings, no books, no manuscripts, not even a scribble on the back of a napkin. Nothing. The “perfect plan of god” left no trace except for second-hand stories and rumours.
The writings of Paul were derived from Hebrew scripture mixed with voices in his head. Whether he genuinely believed the sh… uh stuff he wrote, or was a grifter taking advantage of the early Christians (he seemed quite interested in making sure that preachers got paid), I don’t know (but I tend towards grifter). But the undeniable fact remains that we have no writings from Jesus, only reports made from word-of-mouth (or straight-up imagined in the case of Paul).
Totally not a cult. 🙄
Happy Father’s Day to my Sunday teacher ✊🏾
THank ya!
Your video helped me understand and quit Christianity cult. Thank you and keep thinking
Cheers! so glad to be of any help!
the laws are their favorite parts because every Jesus follower I've ever met finds their conscience eased by the fact that no one can possibly follow the laws as intended, and that through Jesus, they're excused for the failure. This gets expanded into treating fellow humans terribly and think that just telling God how bad they feel about what they did instead of actually making real amends and facing consequences. I can see the appeal of being able to feel better about being an awful person by talking to an imaginary friend who says they forgive you every time. I wish i could allow myself to be that oblivious to my impact on the world around me. But no... when i behave poorly and feel guilty for it, to feel better i have to actually attempt to make it right. The expansive nature of biblical law is pretty much just a way for them to keep pointing out how impossible it is to be good and THAT is what allows them to minimize ANY behavior in their daily life. "Jesus knows I'm awful and still loves me." It's sick.
Happy Father’s Day, Brandon!
Thank you!
I really admire and appreciate how much research and time you put into these videos. Thank you Brandon!!
Thank you for that!
Yet another on point video from you that takes what I was taught for 30 years and opens my eyes to the insanity I wish I’d seen much sooner. Reminds me of the NT verse talking about Jesus opening the scriptures to listeners… but not with the conclusions Christians approve.
Good for you for being able to make it out!
Thank you!
Thanks for another ahmazin! video Happy Father"s Day enjoy your day Brandon ! 😊♥️
Many thanks for that!
Maybe not exactly on topic, but the idea that a way to showing love to your neighbour is "dont kill or harm them" is a surprisingly low bar to meet.
no doubt!
Feel the love lol. The first time I heard the term biblical gaslighting I was thinking what a great description of this loving God. I would find more info on how Jesus came to save the Jews or at least mostly focused on the Jew and not the gentile. This was really good. Thanks for doing these. You're providing a valuable service.
Thank you!
Your best video yet! Had to screen record several times
Glad to hear it. Thanks so much!
Excellent as usual, Brandon. You are changing the world and lives for the good... better than you hoped to do as Christian. Imagine that. "It's Insane!"
Thanks so much, Bill!
More and more it seems the bible is not for us, it was for a specific group at a specific time and others took it, added to it and then applied it for some others at a specific time, at a specific place... like Bart Erman has said, Christianity is a religion about Jesus, not necessarily the religion of Jesus.
Indeed!
Right, such laws are updated (and or completely ignored) to modern sense and sensibilities.
The commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” is reinterpret away from actual historical deities such as Baal, Chemosh, Asteroth into personal "Gods" such as desire, greed, lust, envy, war etc (FYI according to the prevailing social/cultural norms of the times). There is nothing writ into our animal hearts by the gods.
We are here to procreate all the while struggling to derive personal meaning and cosmic significance from that.
You are only deceivng yourself. "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." (Hebrews 4:12) "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
(Mark 13:31) "“It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” (Matthew 4:4 & Luke 4:4)
@@christophergibson7155 You are only deceiving yourself. "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
Man lives by the illusion of the self that the brain creates for itself.
For instance what creates hunger if not the brain? There is no one (a metaphysical thing a soul/spirit) inside the brain (or heart) that receives the sensation of hunger but rather it is the brain that determines and measures if it lacks therefore needs kilocalories of energy. There are these little thermostats and measuring scales placed inside the body/brain by the DNA. FYI DNA evolved most likely from RNA just in case if you want to claim that God also created the DNA.
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
Heaven as in the entirety of the universe as heaven will pass away?
Not anytime soon Jesus. And speaking of soon...
"but My words will by no means pass away."
Oh good, that means even more time to find even more contradictions, additions, redactions throughout the so called inerrant bible. Can't wait to finally find out what Jesus meant by salt loosing is saltiness or what Paul meant by seeds dying and rebirthing. And how difficult would of been to just stay silent on the shape of the earth instead of just "borrowing" from the best hits of other creation myths?
"by bread alone,"
Well at least Angels and Demons don't have to eat...
but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
Is that saying supposed to impress anyone? Cancer is caused by Cells and not by Sin.
I don't recall people living longer or shorter life spans just by God talking
(a coffee shop chit chat) directly to them. One can pray (or meditate) their head off and it will not make them live a second longer. No human being has been able to transcend death thus far.
You say Jesus did?
Well prove it then!
@@Firestorm12345678910and the irony of the word Ba'al is it's all through the bible but been reinterpreted as _'Lord'_ 😂😂😂 so these theists *are praying to Ba'al* !!
I love you and your approach. Thanks for another unique video. You really add something unique here.
Really appreciate that, thank you!
Paul to me sounds like a lawyer or PR person whose job it is to put a positive spin on something on a horrible client.
Remember: Paul was a Roman. That says enough for me!
Paul was a Roman. That says it all for me!
That statement is an utter falsehood.
@@charlesclaridy8646plus 'paul' was a Hasmonean, related to Herod, according to his own admission in Romans!
@@QuestionThingsUseLogic Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for making the 20 cases against Christianity playlist! I'm never gonna be able to remember and memorize all the inconsistency in the bible so it's nice to just send someone that playlist if they ask me why I'm not a Christian anymore. Awesome video as always, keep up the amazing work!! 💪
Thanks so much!
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Hey Brandon, I know you aren't a big social media guy so I figured I'll pass this along as someone who is I have started getting ads about a book called "the Bible uncomplicated" by James Finke looks to be pretty standard apologetic stuff with an ever so SLIGHT bend to it. I think you doing a review and dissection might be interesting especially because if you do a video about something someone else is already promoting that's free advertising! 😂 Either way figured I'd pass it along, great video 👌
Good lookin Out! thanks so much. Lookin into it.
hey brandon! great video again and i'm totally with you on all of this. i just wanted to offer a devil's advocate perspective that i was taught in my years of listening to the 'grace' message, and i might get some details wrong becasue i've been out of all of it for 2-3 years now. i believe there is a verse that states "by the law is the knowledge of sin", i think there are more verses that hint towards this - so they teach that the law is like a mirror, it's full of a bunch of various laws solely for the purpose of showing humans how beyond impossible it is for them to uphold everything, making them aware of their 'sinful nature', and point them to the need for a savior as the only one who could fulfill it for them. all of the sacrifices offering forgiveness of sin were symbolic of the one "ultimate sacrifice" that would permanently cleanse/transform people who accept it.
this was honestly a beautiful message to me, but there were still so many problems & questions that never made any sense to me, and no one could answer, which made it ultimately never feel like true love.
oh i know it well just doesn't help. ha. Thank you!
Upvoted for your hard work and the algorithm. Looking forward to your video on Galatians.
Many thanks!
I'm going to push back on you here. But it won't be flattering for the Christians.
John 14:15 says, "If you love me, follow my commands." In a Trinitarian view, that means following all 613 laws would apply to loving god. Not because of what they command, but rather that the act of obedience is considered love for god. This would absolutely track with Eden and the Fall as well, to make it an originally established precedent.
The difficulty arises when loving god (the greater command) conflicts with loving others (the lesser command). This gives rise to the justification of DCT like gen*cide and buying slaves from neighboring countries. WLC entirely backs this up and only finds his refuge in the fact that outside of the Bible it is nearly impossible to establish if one has really received a command from god.
But you are spot on that this is a good topic to highlight that Jesus and Paul were not on the same page. As Paul repeatedly leaves out loving god with all your heart. IMO to alleviate the cog diss of serving 2 masters.
John 14:15, is Jesus speaking of the Mosaic law or the commandment that He has given to His disciples?
The context of what and when He said it matters. Starting at John 13, until John 19 is the last 6 hours of Jesus life. In
So we should read around that text.
John 14:12-17 ESV
"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
13] Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14] If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.
15] "If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
16] And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
17] even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
At this point Jesus is referring to the specific commandment that He has given to the disciples now the law of Moses, not only because it doesn’t fit the contexts of the verses (law of Moses) but within a few hours He will die on the cross and declare that “it is finished”, the law has been fulfilled in Him, so keeping the law is not an issue anymore for those in Christ.
@darinbracy8433 This depends on if you're a trinitarian and think that Jesus is the person who issued the 613. You should read your Old Testament more, especially Ps. 119. For the context of the Torah being perfect and timeless. The context you provided didn't mention commands or laws except in the verse I originally provided. Also, fulfilled is not abolished. The rest of that quote is Jesus warning that anyone who doesn't follow or teaches not to follow the law will be the least in the kingdom of God.
I guess my question for you would be: How do you determine which commands of Jesus you can ignore and still love him as he says, if you think he gave the 613? You say Christians don't have to keep the law. Does that apply to stealing, idolatry, and murder? Or just keeping the Sabbath, mixed fabrics, and boiling baby goats in their mom's milk?
@@B.S._Lewis
Well I don’t know where you are getting your theology from but it’s like your name. First you don’t understand the reason for the law, you are just seeing it as an eternal hammer to beat people over the head with.
What do you think the word fulfillment means? If you fulfill the terms of the agreement then the contract ends. The law is a part of the Mosaic Covenant, the children of Israel were unable to fulfill the law, they were unworthy. Jesus fulfilled the law completely and perfectly, He was sinless and being sinless in His righteous we are declared justified.
Romans 5:15-21 ESV
But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. [16] And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. [17] For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. [18] Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. [19] For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. [20] Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [21] so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
@darinbracy8433 lol. First, you don't understand what laws are in general. They are not contracts to be fulfilled, but guidelines to govern acceptable behavior in a society. Apparently, you and Jesus have this ignorance in common. How preposterous is it to say that if someone in your country never got in trouble with the law until they died, that now no one has to follow any laws...
How bout stepping back from your theology book and start cracking some logic books open?
Oh yeah and not ignoring what the Old Testament said about the law in favor of Paul.
@@B.S._Lewis The Bible isn’t just a run of the mill law book. You are applying secular principles that don’t apply nor existed when the Bible was written.
The Bible is the redemptive history of God redeeming mankind to Himself through Christ. The law isn’t the chosen method of redemption, it’s a mirror to show man’s inability to redeem himself. This is why in Genesis 3:15, it is God who promises to provide a a way of redemption.
God gives the law to men, keep the law and live in paradise violate the law and get kicked out. They violate the law over and over and God kicks them out. Jesus comes to fulfill God’s promises from Genesis 3:15, and He fulfills the law perfectly and because He’s perfect He can be the perfect sacrifice that redeems mankind from all the violations of the law. Hence when we accept Christ we are given His righteousness and we are justified through His grace on the cross.
I'm really learning from your videos in my journey to shift my mind. Thank you
I love my daughters and my daughters love me and that doesn't require a law.
Happy Father's day Brandon. Awesome episode.
Thank you!
Happy sunday
To you also
Thanks!
Thank you!
"Love" God biblically is to obey him.
Your verb 'retcon' I've never heard of before but it describes perfectly what you accurately and honestly say that Paul is actively doing with Christian doctrine in order to correct and repair the crippling effects of archaic Old Testament commandments. Your summary analysis and insight is brilliant.
Thanks, Chuck!
HEY DADDY O I don't wanna go down to the basement, there's somethin' down there, I don't wanna go, Hey! Romeo ugh, there's somethin' down there...
References; Dan Barker and his comedy bit about not having to go down to the basement, also song and lyrics are by The Ramones who wrote it way before Dan got ahold of the concept, are the Ramones prophets? 🤔 because I'm pretty sure Dan never listened to the Ramones. Anyways happy Father's day Brandon I'm glad to see there are still good role models out there.
Appreciate that! Thank you very much
You're the Stallion Mang!!
I saw this Dan Barker argument yesterday. Man, that was powerful. The power of religious mind control and childhood indoctrination is obvious when you listen to that analogy.
I'm so glad you did this bc I always had in the back of my mind that I was pretty sure the 'love your neighbor and God with all your heart' did not cover all 613 laws but hadn't gotten around to checking each and every one.
Also, when I started menstruating, I was still a believer, so in an unrealistic frame of mind, and picked up on the fact that being a female sexual being was sinful so I hated it and wanted nothing to do with it. Then I hear those verses about being unclean and that women at that time were supposed to go outside the village. That really P'sed me off bc I thought it was bad enough to have to deal with it once a month but then to be punished by God and others bc of it? IDK -it just seemed like 'cruel and unusual punishment' to me... especially since God was the one that made me have it.
Seems to me for a god that supposedly loves us unconditionally, there are a LOT of conditions.
Your thumbnail is absolutely sending me 🤣
"Does it? I'unno 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️"
So coy 😂
Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law. So that one guy that was stoned to death for picking up sticks on the sabbath in violation of the Law was loved to death as it were? Why do we take this Paul guy seriously at all. The man does not have a clue what he is talking about.
It is amazing how bad he misrepresents the OT sometimes
@@MindShift-Brandon Yep. And it is quite amazing that believers don't see it.
Here is an interesting and very wrong Jesus statement when he tried to get out of being stoned by the Pharisees: John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods"’?
No that is wrong because Psalm 82:6 mentions Gods (even if interpreted as Angels the same error remains) and not mortal man. And this begs the question was Jesus actually there in the garden of eden as the trinity when God (as the trinity) cut Adam and Eve off from the immortality granting tree of life? Clearly Jesus is unable to distinguish between mortal mankind (who are not immortal) and the gods (who are immortal).
But it is you who has not understood what the Word of God is saying. You MUST BE born again, to SEE and ENTER the kingdom of God. (John 3:3,5,7) Otherwise, you are looking from the outside only. "But the natural(soulish) man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned...(void of the Spirit). 1 Corinthians 2:14
@christophergibson7155 I was a Christian. With your logic you can't prove other religions, other than yours, as false because you are only looking from the outside and haven't received the truth and insight after conversion.
Happy Father’s Day, Brandon! Happy Father’s Day to all you fathers! ❤
Thank you!
Rabbi Hillel (who died in 10CE) was asked to teach the whole of the Torah while standing on 1 foot
(apparently the inquirer wanted a short answer)
so Rabbi Hillel told him this:
"Do not do unto your friend that which is hateful to you. That is the entire Torah; the rest is commentary. Now go and study."
This is found in the Talmud & comes from a man who lived before Jesus or Paul allegedly lived
I personally don't believe that the "gospels" record anything that Jesus said
I think that the author of Mark took a smattering of what some 1st century Rabbis were saying or maybe he just took what Paul said & reimagined it coming from the mouth of Jesus
so if Paul said it before "Jesus" said it most likely he had heard some Rabbis repeating what Rabbi Hillel had said
the problem with Paul is that there a lot of things in his "authentic letters" that seem to indicate that there are some expansions being made to fit the narrative of the rest of the NT but that is really another
so yeah if "Paul" & "Jesus" were guilty of retconning the Torah I guess Rabbi Hillel was guilty also
just a guess but from what little I know about Rabbi Hillel he seems to interested in making Judaism more palatable to gentiles
along the same lines of making Judaism more palatable to gentiles is the idea of Noahide laws as found in Genesis where God gives Noah "7 commands"
this idea is also reflected in Acts where the summation of the so-called council at Jerusalem mirrors the laws given to Noah
as far as the anti-sorcery laws are concerned sorcery was associated with idolatry
I think this is the root of the problem that monotheism is less inclusive than polytheism
the whole Torah seems to be bent on getting the "people" to worship only one god & to denigrate all other gods
polytheism allows more diversity by letting people decide which gods they prefer to worship whereas monotheism tends toward exclusion of other people's ideas
so I think that that was the biggest mistake that those Judaeans made when they went to Alexandria in 273 BCE to write the Torah
I wonder what they would have thought about the chaos this seems to have caused in 164 BCE & the way that the Hasmoneans ruled when they came to power in 140 BCE & finally the way the Judaeans rebelled against Rome ending in the disaster of 70 CE
if they had just accepted Greek & Roman gods alongside all the Hebrew gods (even the ones that they started throwing away) maybe no tragedy would have occurred
such is the way of monotheism only to live with the idea of always being persecuted but having to persecute polytheists to maintain a narrative
Hi Brandon, the verse in the O.T., that says, ‘Thou Shalt Not Suffer A Witch To Live’, is that a later addition/interpretation? As I didn’t witches existed in those days, as we understand Witchcraft in the Modern sense…..
Commanded love results in a lot of fakers and also a lot people struggling with guilt. A commandment to love is disastrous.
Classic Mindshift sound bite: “if you lay out a finite number of laws, you get to be summed up by those laws.”
ha, thanks for being here!
What I read from the bible said you may buy your slave from the heathen around you
Great video Brandon, I love how this plays into the problem of deception and would love to discuss sometime.....we will get there
Hi Brandon, happy father's day. Im sure this question has been asked but: if Jesus was supposed to be the ultimate/inevitable sacrifice (without blemish/sin), why wasn't he sacrificed/killed in the Temple? Per the Law and rituals? Why wasn't he killed on the altar? Abraham almost sacrificed his son on an 'altar'; wouldn't it have been 'better' for the son of god to be sacrificed on the super-altar in the Temple? I haven't seen any discussion on this, but admittedly I haven't looked deeply as I i just thought of this.
That's an excellent question. I never thought about that. There's so many laws about how to sacrifice someone but in this most important case, eh, just whatever Rome does is fine. The added suffering makes the blood magic work better. lol
just one more way jesus doesnt not do what he is suppose to.
I know it would be really long, but I'd love a video going over all 613 laws. Like, just really take apart this whole thing.
good idea!
It's really obvious that yahweh is nothing like believers describe him to be. The tri-omni properties are nowhere to be found in the bible, if anything, the bible proves he's lacking in ways even humans are not, but modern apologetics don't actually care about what the bible says; they adjusted god to fit their arguments and that's all they care about. If they can get you to stop thinking and stop recognizing the problems, that's all they need. Paul is just like the modern apologist thats just trying to sell the grift.
😂😂😂 you Crack me up. He said oh r laws that's good. Let's read them. Oh shoot that didn't go as I planned 😂😂😂
A limited god amongst a pantheon of other gods makes the bible read much more coherently. The idea of this god being an all-knowing and all-powerful being is laughable.
Zeus got too much credit.
The Old Testament is so clearly meant for, specifically and exclusively, Israel. Even Jesus believed this to be true, considering he told Canaanite woman in Matthew 15 that he is only here for the “lost sheep of the house of Israel”. All these commandments are meant for Israel, then reframed by Paul to sell to the masses. Another great video, Brandon. Thanks again for these videos!
Yay 🎉
Thanks for being here!
Brilliant as always. Thank you Brandon. ❤❤❤
This is great, Brandon! The old/new Law has always struck me as a rather blatant case of God contradictory nature, actions, and commandments. As a side note, I think you would really enjoy Ludwig Feuerbach’s “The Essence of Religion”. Feuerbach was one of the foundational humanist and atheist philosophers and, at *maybe* 150 pages, it is both short and dashingly brilliant. I promise it’d be right up your alley if you ever see it and wanna give it a read :)
Such great points, Brandon. You have a great way of pulling back the curtain and showing the great and powerful wizard of OZ to be a silly man.
Thanks, Kathryn. So nice to hear.
Deut 22:28-29 - how much is 50 shekels worth, accounting for inflation? 🤔
Not enough still
@@MindShift-Brandon LOL, I meant that as a dark tongue in cheek joke, but by today's standards at current silver prices about $522.18 (550 grams where a shekel is equal to 11 grams of silver). Yikes.
20 bucks give or take 😮
Mike Winger should do a video informing Christians the correct adjusted for inflation amount. Dads are probably getting ripped off and they would be able to tithe more if it was corrected. Oh wait, he’s too busy making videos about how Christians will rejoice when they watch their loved ones get cast into the lake of fire.
Brandon: In your video, you say that "don't boil a calf in its mother's milk" is one of the '10' commandments in Exodus 23. I've heard this elsewhere too. But isn't the Exodus version of the 10 commandments in Exodus 20? Can you clarify? I'm confused.
Also, is there any place in the OT that sets apart the 10 (whichever version of them you like) as being more important that the hundreds of other commandments? (Eg. 'thou shalt really keep these 10, but the others not so much' ). Or is the focus 'The 10' non-scriptural?
Thanks & thanks for another quality video.
You should be confused lol. Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and the "Ritual Decalogue" of Exodus 34:11-26. Be sure on the last one to read the first 10 verses.
Love, love, love.
Love, love, love.
Love, love, love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love, love.
Love is all you need.
- Beatles 69:1
Another fascinating subject/concept, thank you!
Isn’t the Christian argument - ignore old testament rules, because Jesus came ?
Yeah, it's ridiculous. I always reply that it's great we can throw out the OT so now we don't have to believe in original sin or the creation story, etc.
When Christ came and died on the Cross the bondage of the law and sin both were dealt with forever more.
Or don’t seek relief from the law and sin at the Cross and remain bound by both.
Go by the Faith God gives you and go to the Cross and become a new Creation or stay in your own Godless nature and eventually die of your sins overall.
The message of the Cross is foolishness to those that are perishing 1Corinthians 1v18
But life given to those who go and find relief from the bondage of sin at the Cross.
Science lesson: there are no four legged insects. By definition, an insect has six legs.
There are bugs that seem to have four, like locusts, but locust swarms were used as supplemental food (having decimated crops) even in Israel.
My commentary:
The Israelites knew there were six legs on locusts, despite the appearance of having four.
So this was a rule for absolutely nothing?
Or this was a way to avoid saying, “Bring me your meat, and go eat bugs.”