LA tests Dutch/Japanese pocket communities. Skeptics like it

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
  • When Barbara Bestor was tasked with turning 5 mostly-abandoned lots into 18 homes in LA’s Echo Park, she knew the neighborhood opposition to multi-family units so she performed “stealth density” by crafting duplexes and triplexes that look like single-family homes.
    To comply with LA’s Small Lot Subdivision Ordinance, Bestor left a sliver of space between the homes so while two homes appear to be one, there is actually a 6-inch gap between them covered by waterproofing. This gap isn’t just aesthetic, but also allows the units to be classified as homes, not condominiums, so owners own the land and can have individual mortgages.
    All the homes face an interior communal plaza, a “living street”, where people can gather and even barbecue. All kitchens face the courtyard to encourage day-to-day interactions (even if just visual). The resulting subdivision - 9 structures containing 18 individual homes - is called “Blackbirds”, referencing a community of birds gathered around a pool of water.
    Using commercial storefront windows, Bestor was able to create living spaces that feel like treehouses for a fraction of the cost of conventional glass. She differentiated the houses by alternating the cladding between white metal standing-seam and black fiber-cement board.
    “What's nice about projects like this, explains Bestor, “they show ways that you could have density that people are like ‘I would live there’ as opposed to the more generic developer supermaxed thing which isn't necessarily improving a neighborhood as much as it could. I guess I'm technically a YIMBY so why not add a bit of design time to make a better community building”.
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  • @BestorArchitecture
    @BestorArchitecture 2 года назад +224

    I know these projects fairly well and I am going to try to answer some of the comments here. I hope this is helpful- not everything can be covered in the video. These houses (and each building is its own house, not a condo) are part of a program in Los Angeles called the Small Lot Ordinance. It allows the City to densify certain properties. For instance, instead of 5 houses (5 lots = 5 houses) this property was allowed to have up to 24 but the developer decided to design 18 on the site.
    -The parking is required by the City- so instead of each house having a driveway to the street, which would create a typical housing frontage they are combined in a shared new alley.
    -The City requires driveways to be paved- and the turn around radius is such that this has to be paved.
    -There is a cistern on site (you can see the paved area is sloped to allow water to be captured on site and be used to water the landscaping).
    -Solar panels are the responsibility of the owner, not the architect, and are certainly allowed if they want to join a solar program.
    -The black siding does not absorb heat- those houses are no warmer than white ones.
    LA is a very very tough city to build in and I think many architects are trying to explore alternative housing designs - from single family housing to multi-family housing.

    • @jamespotter936
      @jamespotter936 2 года назад +1

      What is the price range for these homes?

    • @stacyhackney6100
      @stacyhackney6100 2 года назад +2

      Thank you

    • @BestorArchitecture
      @BestorArchitecture 2 года назад +2

      @@jamespotter936 to be honest I don't know- that is up to a real estate agent.

    • @michellejean8068
      @michellejean8068 2 года назад +2

      I'm looking to do the sane basic concept. But with dome houses. Exactly. Use land as common it makes land safe and note beautiful. Instead of isolating each other. Cool. Anything like this or you in Arizona. ? I'd be interested. For sure.

    • @mysteryachiever
      @mysteryachiever 2 года назад +2

      Thank you for your extensive explanation. Didn’t LA also recently issue a directive that people were going to be charged for the amount of non-permeable landscaping they had? I know of people who have drilled jackhammered holes into their concrete driveways to avoid being taxed under this new ruling. In other words, wouldn’t permeable paving have been a way around this issue?

  • @nhanha4
    @nhanha4 2 года назад +42

    It's a pleasure to watch every video on this channel ! Keep up the good work !

  • @M.Campbell
    @M.Campbell 2 года назад +2

    These are great. So many people struggle to afford the average suburban tract home, with a yard, and then wind up almost never using the yard and having the chore of keeping it mowed. Yet they don't want to live in an apartment or condo because of the crowding and inadequate sound proofing. These houses, with the eight inch space between them, are the best of both worlds. It wouldn't work for me because I'm a gardener and if I can't dig in the dirt and nurture plants I get depressed. However, it would work well for an awful lot of people. Well done.

  • @Gummmibaer
    @Gummmibaer 2 года назад +49

    Looks like the houses are guests on a major parking lot.

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 2 года назад +1

      It is the American problem, we cannot think of how to do these things without having a car in the picture. A better solution would be some of the new apartments going up just east of downtown, only instead of blank walls, you have your shop space.

    • @Constantinesis
      @Constantinesis Год назад

      Right, but the real Pocket Neighbhourhood is not like this !

  • @markbigbadbear
    @markbigbadbear 2 года назад +119

    These look like fun houses with a nice layout. As a Dutch guy I can see these working in the Netherlands too. But I can also understand some of the comments about size, neighbours close by, etc. But let's be honest. It's a lot nicer to have 16-18 families taking care of their homes instead of 3 abandoned lots, 1 squatter and 1 other person / family living on the same plot of land. Homes that are taking care of reflect well on the rest of an area.
    I do agree with a number of commentors that I'd have liked to have seen more green in the common courtyard. Some grass (or astro turf if grass isn't viable) with a playground area for the younger kids, some outside sitting areas for the houses themselves, that sort of thing.
    Still, it's a start. People flock to the cities, there's not enough room for everyone, so we need to use the room better.

    • @elizabethforsyth3054
      @elizabethforsyth3054 2 года назад +9

      Agree, shame to make the car king but I guess that is important in our lives, could they not have parked them on the other side of the houses and had some common green space.... We have been used to living a lot closer together in Europe for some time!

    • @whateversmurfette
      @whateversmurfette 2 года назад +1

      but the netherlands is a cluster fluff of freemasonic libtardisms, damning anything considered "native" or "european" in the very least. i'm sure you know that.

    • @markbigbadbear
      @markbigbadbear 2 года назад +8

      @@whateversmurfette why the immediate name calling and politicizing? This Libtardism is a misnomer, coined by people in your Republic party to make themselves feel superior and look down on other people. Here's a hint: we all bleed red. We all have to poop. Stop dividing, look beyond your own fence and indoctrination and start working together again. Something that goes for everybody in every country.

    • @thebackforty939
      @thebackforty939 2 года назад +2

      costs are probably very high for a duplex!!!!!!!

    • @anaalves3658
      @anaalves3658 2 года назад +3

      I think that they said that they needed to provide parking, city regulations. Someone was kind enough to explain a lot of the city regulations in another commitment. I think that cars are part of American culture and the neighborhood might not have good public transportation. I used to live in Cape Town South Africa and my husband and I both had cars, we didn't have reliable public transportation and I worked freelance in all sorts of places, a car was essential for my job. Now we live in Portugal and we only have one car, but we have 4 bus lines about 150m from our apartment and 3 subway stations not far from us. So 2 cars don't make sense now.

  • @figureforwardarchitectured7743
    @figureforwardarchitectured7743 2 года назад +83

    I appreciate the moves and the goals. But have to agree, the cars could have been confined to a much smaller part of the inner courtyard, and definitely some kind of permeable paving. In Europe finely packed, nice gravel works very well…

    • @amarketing8749
      @amarketing8749 2 года назад +12

      @LOL CATZ
      Thanks for highlighting the differences in climate that make this system better than it looks.
      I also wondered why their wasn't more permeable parking, completely forgetting the dry/arid climate. The pavement choice now makes more sense, although I still wonder about the heat island effect.
      Do you see any problems with this design related to the heating and cooling of these homes?

    • @user-kh2jw1ex8g
      @user-kh2jw1ex8g 2 года назад +4

      Should have just built a mini underground parking garage for everyone, that way you could have the entire center be a nice yard with gardens and such. It's even built on a hill.

    • @businesscasual8162
      @businesscasual8162 2 года назад +5

      @@user-kh2jw1ex8g that would probably triple the site construction cost

    • @user-kh2jw1ex8g
      @user-kh2jw1ex8g 2 года назад +1

      @@businesscasual8162 would it? I just don’t see how adding basically a large basement just for a few cars would be 3x as expensive as building 18 houses, already with a cement driveway. Yeah I imagine it wouldn’t be cheap, but it would be worth it to have all that extra space.

    • @zianeshkasparen4358
      @zianeshkasparen4358 2 года назад

      The landscape slopes to catch and guide the water which is used for the yard, etc.

  • @bridiemacdonald9436
    @bridiemacdonald9436 2 года назад +80

    I love the modern look and the shared car space. People who don't live here do not realize the difficulty of finding parking and also the inaccessibility of public transport. It sounded like there were many public meetings to attend to neighborhood needs also. Some of the notes below probably do not take that into context. Though having solar, and water catchment systems would be great or things like living roofs - though obv. it's all budget concerns - would be great if there were builder incentives for those.

    • @BestorArchitecture
      @BestorArchitecture 2 года назад +8

      There actually is a cistern on site that captures water for planting!

    • @AbuSous2000PR
      @AbuSous2000PR 2 года назад +9

      in the middle east where I have grown up, cistern wells are almost in every house. it is an old tradition that served us well especially during the hot summers

    • @ingeleonora-denouden6222
      @ingeleonora-denouden6222 2 года назад

      That seems to be the big problem in the USA: no public transport! That's much better here in the Netherlands, at least in towns and cities (sometimes a small village in rural area is inaccessible by public transport)

    • @digitalrandomart3049
      @digitalrandomart3049 2 года назад

      they should have made an underground parking instead

    • @anaalves3658
      @anaalves3658 2 года назад

      @@digitalrandomart3049 that would be great, but it would add to the expense of the build. I really get the sense that the architect was trying to get the budget down and still make the whole project as pleasant as possible for everyone that lives there.

  • @maxwoodworth
    @maxwoodworth 2 года назад +88

    Great designs. Not to knock it, but the houses are all minimum $1mn. "Normal" for LA, but not exactly the solution to the housing problem (not that it claims to be).

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 2 года назад +6

      The problem is that you cannot build enough new structures to solve the problem. Too many people trying to live in the Metro Los Angeles area so housing is a problem. Some of new low rise apartments just east of downtown could help the problem if there was enough of them. You would need to redo all the vacant/underutilized housing, warehouse storage areas in order to start dealing with the problem, but there is no will for it.

    • @4316rodney
      @4316rodney 2 года назад +9

      Exactly! A million bucks for a shared cement yard… Love how she points out where the different material choices make it “cheaper”.

    • @eden5260
      @eden5260 2 года назад +2

      a solution for larger density (and also beneficial for the developer's pockets), not a solution for lowering prices. that economically impossible by one project

    • @HondoTrailside
      @HondoTrailside 2 года назад +1

      Total cost of a property is nearly irrelevant. Conventionally, you have the length of the mortgage, and in some places you don't pay it off in your lifetime. So the idea from my parents' days of having to pay off the mortgage in 20 years, is long gone. Then you have the inflationary times we live in, combined with artificially low interest rates. And soon to probably be, stagflation. Get any reasonable real estate, and baring the great reset, if you are allowed to keep it, it will be paying you for some time.

    • @blucheer8743
      @blucheer8743 2 года назад

      Agree

  • @BaDazai
    @BaDazai 2 года назад +66

    I love the house plan and layout as well as the interior, I grew up in a warm neighbourhood setup so I don't mind the houses being close each other. Though I still prefere standalone houses where I can have a vegetable and flower garden in the back. However, I aboslotulty can't help but fall in love with houses like these whenever I see them.

    • @CulturedThugPoster
      @CulturedThugPoster 2 года назад +4

      Houses are easy to build. Cohesive and harmonious communities (even small ones) are not so easy to build. It only takes one disruptive household, one devisive issue and it can all go to shit.

  • @InBelgrade
    @InBelgrade 2 года назад +21

    Nice to hear and see influences from an old Dutch city like Amsterdam being used in a huge American metropole like L.A. As a Dutchman I can say a hood like this could easily fit in The Netherlands. Living in an old ‘hofje’ ( a court with small houses usually build around factories for their workers in the 19th century) myself I recognize the advantages of knowing your neighbours and always having someone who can help with anything. Thanks for the vid!

    • @michellezevenaar
      @michellezevenaar 2 года назад +3

      I've never seen any thing like this in the Netherlands! Hofjes yes but they are alot greener then this and no cars parked in them.

  • @Char209
    @Char209 2 года назад +53

    Why can’t we have smart people like this in positions in government? I know they’re out there 👍

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 2 года назад +9

      Because it's not enough to have a good idea. You also have to have enough allies in positions of power to shepherd it to completion.
      And generally people who have to game the current rules as they did here do so because they don't have the allies and political muscle to regulatory push reform.
      Zoning is also kind of a hot mess full of perverse insentives for local voters.

    • @bartholomewcubbins9723
      @bartholomewcubbins9723 2 года назад +4

      There are many smart people working in government. The small lot zoning regulation didn't just magically write itself and then maneuver on its own through the gauntlet of NIMBYs who oppose any change.

    • @joannegriffin
      @joannegriffin 2 года назад +4

      They're smart because they are NOT in gov't. Smart people in gov't get canceled by sinecures and jealousy, get relegated to non-important tasks, or dumped on with busy work, lest they create more work for the lifers. They stay trapped by generous vacation days, guaranteed life-long work protection, and comfy retirement.

    • @hufjournallife7218
      @hufjournallife7218 2 года назад

      U can create architecture blueprint to governor for change system and more affordable home like semi house

    • @Davidg1t1
      @Davidg1t1 2 года назад +1

      Because they use what little intelligence they have on being sneaky lying deceitful manipulative power hungry tyrants. Like the current marxists.

  • @beccam9854
    @beccam9854 2 года назад +56

    My only issue is I wished they'd made the rooftops flat so that each homeowner could have a rooftop garden or patio space for entertainment

    • @InsaneNuYawka
      @InsaneNuYawka 2 года назад +18

      I think that’s where copying
      the Dutch and Japanese architecture style became more form over function…

    • @Botanica2012
      @Botanica2012 2 года назад +16

      Exactly - rooftop gardens would have been nice. If that is not possible for whatever reason I wonder why there are no solar panels - especially with all the sunshine in LA and rising costs for energy.

  • @ursa4212
    @ursa4212 2 года назад +50

    So many words about community and neighbours but no outside garden to actually spend some time together. A shady gazebo would be nice. And children are supposed to play between cars, really?

    • @aprilm9551
      @aprilm9551 2 года назад +2

      Playing between cars: I think she said in the video that the idea was that the children play when the cars are gone during the day while people are at work. It would be interesting to know if this actually worked out as described.

    • @ridef0rlife
      @ridef0rlife 2 года назад

      All townhouses are like this. If you got kids don't live there.

  • @allws9683
    @allws9683 2 года назад +73

    What surprises me is the amount of plain concrete paving between the houses, literally 95% of the space ! Almost no strip of green space against the houses. Not good with percipation (may be not LA biggest problem..), not good for dealing with heat effects and in general not very attractive to hang around (with neighbours or alone...). They could have solved that so much better, you'd say. The houses don;t have garages, so placing the cars on a separate parking strip (for example) would free the inbetween space for more pleasant (communal) use ! And the architects even designed it as "buildings speaking to a bigger context" and 'living street'. I guess it speaks how 'laying concrete paving' is ingrained in US building ..

    • @CK1000ism
      @CK1000ism 2 года назад +11

      It also speaks to Los Angeles car culture.

    • @Mike__B
      @Mike__B 2 года назад +16

      It's a give and take, a garage is living space that is taken away and while it did look like a few did have garages you'd still need the concrete space to access them as, and most likely they had to fight with locals to not have cars from all those houses occupy the streets which ends up being a big NIMBY arguing point especially if parking is at a premium.

    • @quinosonic82
      @quinosonic82 2 года назад +2

      @@Mike__B nobody wants a mud entrance, but you don't need concrete... you can leave your car over gravel, or some sort of permeable blocks and it'll be fine.

    • @JbushBush
      @JbushBush 2 года назад +1

      I like the idea of it being a community space without cars..... which will never happen. Kind of pointless.

    • @M.Campbell
      @M.Campbell 2 года назад

      @@quinosonic82 It's probably regulated by the city. More outdated building laws that need to be updated.

  • @jonathancaplan4444
    @jonathancaplan4444 2 года назад +47

    I'm very surprised that they don't have solar. They seem so forward thinking

    • @aprilm9551
      @aprilm9551 2 года назад +1

      Indeed! I was thinking the same thing.

    • @M.Campbell
      @M.Campbell 2 года назад

      They are free to install solar, if they want. It just wasn't provided by the developer.

    • @ErezSegal
      @ErezSegal 2 года назад +3

      California’s Solar Mandate: Assembly Bill 178 requires that all new single-family residences and multi-family residences up to three stories high must include solar panels in the project.

    • @SoCalFreelance
      @SoCalFreelance 2 года назад

      Seems to have been built on the cheap - use of commercial storefront windows for example.

  • @AbuSous2000PR
    @AbuSous2000PR 2 года назад +4

    I love the idea of the industrial windows; many thx Kristen. I love ur work

  • @susanr5546
    @susanr5546 Год назад +1

    I like these a lot. The design reminds me of Ross Chapin's pocket neighborhoods in Washington State. Thanks to Kirsten for always providing such innovative ideas!

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 2 года назад +5

    What thoughtful design can do for quality of life.

  • @stacyhackney6100
    @stacyhackney6100 2 года назад +3

    Lovely because of the windows, high ceilings, wood floors. Some great ideas.

  • @barrybr1
    @barrybr1 2 года назад +15

    Fantastic! A good idea to have all of the kitchens facing the central area rather than the lounge or bedrooms. That view onto the white roof would frustrate me though, so bright and dominating. I'd love to see a 'living' roof.

  • @kickzo
    @kickzo 2 года назад +9

    I'm an LA Native, the housing crisis is also coupled with skyrocketing prices, it's really sad to say but the only people who can afford homes in LA are the most privileged.

    • @vhfraterdn7617
      @vhfraterdn7617 2 года назад +1

      I’m also a native in LA. It’s an expensive place period and the price of everything is going to continue to rise that’s the the facts. What’s not very apparent is that people should consider various ways of making money.
      I hear it all the time from individuals; it’s so expensive, traffic sucks, there’s lots of violence etc, the list goes on and on. This is just naturally part of the LA culture. I’m still here and I’m not privileged so in my opinion it’s peoples thinking that allows them to succeed or fail in LA.

    • @kickzo
      @kickzo 2 года назад

      @@vhfraterdn7617 I get it LA can be a very sink or swim type of place, under privileged communities do survive here. I'm privileged enough to own a house in Duarte (LA County), but with that said, I think the minimum wage is irrational when comparing it to the living wage. New builds like these ones are made to only serve the most privileged, which contributes to making things more difficult for historically under privileged groups when all the prices rise because of the changing economic landscape. Not everyone's "thinking" is the same and we can't blame the victims of a general shift in the culture that unfairly affects poor people in LA. All though it's true to say that people should look into modern entrepreneurship, it's not realistic to hold that standard to older folks who aren't tech savvy or groups who have limited access to the internet. LA need more affordable housing and program outreach.

    • @vhfraterdn7617
      @vhfraterdn7617 2 года назад +1

      @@kickzo agreed. So what kind of solutions can we bring to this City so that can be possible. Any ideas.

  • @davidlang1125
    @davidlang1125 2 года назад +3

    A terrific example of what we should be building instead of tract housing for single family developments which has contributed to exorbitant cost of homeownership, urban sprawl and environmental degradation. But the best attribute is the creation of a sense of place and a sense of community which are difficult ideas to convey to NIMBY’s who are focused in traffic and density.
    Congrats to Barbara Bestor for a successful project.

  • @wnose
    @wnose 2 года назад +9

    increasing density is tough when transit doesn't match.

    • @Erika-gm2tf
      @Erika-gm2tf 2 года назад

      Fascinating context to work within. It's our city planning/development haiku.

    • @DanielSpiegel
      @DanielSpiegel 2 года назад +1

      But how do you justify more intense transit options without density?

    • @TimBryan
      @TimBryan 2 года назад

      @@DanielSpiegel it’s definitely a chicken and egg/if you build it they will come situation. Unfortunately, no public office is incentivized to make long term decisions; a buildout of a robust public transit network would take decades to see any sort of ROI and no politician’s term is long enough for them to bother trying anything.

  • @Aoudhubillahi
    @Aoudhubillahi 2 года назад +2

    Man, I thought that I commented this last week. Kirsten and husband I have to say that your content because of the quality of it's substance is like required weekly viewing. Impressed with their design and intelligent variance. Impressed with their communal mission. I really like what they chose to go cost redux on in the commercial glazing and the cabinet knobs (the knobs were a nice touch. (The owner could change them if they felt it necessary.)

  • @CabrilloTV
    @CabrilloTV 2 года назад +15

    So, why are there no solar panels on those large roof spaces, forming a community storage system also solar water heaters would have been a good investment????

    • @CabrilloTV
      @CabrilloTV 2 года назад +3

      @LOL CATZ that is an excuse for doing half of a job , the cost would be minimal if included in the cost of construction, also the community would be working to reduce their carbon footprint. Go green.

  • @lanekeyes9174
    @lanekeyes9174 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for industrial window idea, love the look & feel of the whole project

  • @h.aaron.edwards
    @h.aaron.edwards 2 года назад +15

    I think a number of the critics commenting on this video need to get out and travel the world, see how others have lived, are living, and how architects, urban planners, developers and governments are trying to tackle the problem of lack of affordable housing. Another great video by Kirsten and her family. Keep up the great work!

  • @amarketing8749
    @amarketing8749 2 года назад +11

    12:15. There's the rub: "They exceeded their expectations of what they could sell for."
    Higher density is looked at as a way to make things more affordable and instead they were able to charge even more than they expected per house, therefore contributing and continuing the cycle of unaffordability.

    • @AbuSous2000PR
      @AbuSous2000PR 2 года назад +1

      agreed; we need to find the balance

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 2 года назад +8

      I disagree. The housing shortage being what it is, fourteen units of fairly nice new housing were going to sell for a premium and certainly aren't going to put even a ding in the price of housing. You need hundreds of thousands of units of additional housing to satisfy demand and get prices under control and, at least at first, new units are going to be bid on by people with more money to burn.
      The point of a program like this is to prove to people that density construction does not have to be cramped, dingy, or lacking of privacy, which are preconceptions that all strongly discourage changes to local zoning.

    • @tjslam26
      @tjslam26 2 года назад

      Any one of the 18 units is still probably much more affordable than a home built on one of the 5 lots that used to be on this land. If the developer has a higher than expected profit margin and the new property owner gets to buy something cheaper than the alternative - that's pretty much a win-win.

    • @thezenarcher
      @thezenarcher 2 года назад +1

      I think it just shows how much people want this kind of smaller, cozier housing. Plus if they built these as typical LA bungalows they would take up more space/land and sell for just as much if not more

  • @koholohan3478
    @koholohan3478 2 года назад +6

    Definitely should have done all the roofs white to cut down on electricity.

  • @09Jeanine
    @09Jeanine 2 года назад +31

    There need to be porches or balconies and a community garden.

    • @bnorberg988
      @bnorberg988 2 года назад +2

      It looks like there are balconies facing outwards of the community parking area. But I agree a garden space would be helpful.

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B 2 года назад +10

    I love this design for increasing density in a low density area but at the very beginning when talking about LA's plan to go more single family homes she makes a comment "ugh homeless" but this project does not address that at all, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if each one of those homes could sell for a comparable price to any of the surrounding homes and being as there's 18 of them they took 5 and turned into 18 which again doesn't help housing prices at all as anyone who has been priced out is still priced out. She even mentions it near the end where she says "They didn't cost much to build ... but they much exceeded their expectations on sale price" which to me says they are "market rate" priced or higher which the middle class typically can not afford the down payment much less the mortgage payments, and what happens in situations like that is you get investors who buy units and then rent them which unfortunately is the primary cause for high housing as it doesn't allow rates to fall if the people buying aren't the people who live in the area.
    Sorry for the rant, I just get very cranky when people equate homelessness to lack of housing availability and the knee jerk response "we need more housing" is the sole solution. But I love your design Barbara, and absolutely would love to see a lot more of that in the area.

  • @R1S0.
    @R1S0. 2 года назад +2

    i would like to see more greens in that central parking lot.... 😉 overall, very nice project! edit: 9:45 i LOVE that view

  • @JP-bv7bf
    @JP-bv7bf 2 года назад +1

    With the very difficult Calif building laws this is a great plan. Well done.🇨🇦

  • @felipericketts
    @felipericketts 2 года назад +3

    Great project! California really needs alternatives like this project demonstrates. I would be happy to live in such a place!

  • @karenzielke9387
    @karenzielke9387 2 года назад +24

    Too much cement and almost no green space, requiring one to drive or bike to a park. Green space is important for health.
    If the shades for those large windows were at the bottom it would make more sense. Then they could be closed partway for privacy and still allow enough light.

    • @joshkatsikis9138
      @joshkatsikis9138 2 года назад +2

      The cement parking lot is perfect for kids wanting to play, if you want a large open green space you should walk or bike to a local park and get some exercise. The idea that everyone needs a front yard and a backyard is antiquated and further perpetuates the wealth gap along with being a huge waste of space. The future of U.S. cities needs to focus on communal living and not the individual, with more developments like this it will lead to zoning commercial areas closer to the homes requiring less travel and ultimately getting rid of the barrier of having to buy a car to work or go anywhere.

  • @martian9999
    @martian9999 2 года назад +2

    very nice, but (sorry for asking) what is the use of density if you are still 100% relying on the car for everyday transport? Density is great because it makes public transport financially viable, and it enables walkable neighborhoods and the use of bicycle too. But a little pocket of density in a low-density city will just cause problems, imo. The only benefit would be a lower price per house.

    • @carl8790
      @carl8790 2 года назад +2

      The problem is within regulations and zoning laws in the US, which they mostly prioritizes car infrastructure.

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox 2 года назад +2

    There's a video of them new / under construction and empty on here called "Blackbirds Condos For Sale".

  • @joachimemand1687
    @joachimemand1687 2 года назад +2

    I love your channel - always inspiring!
    It's interesting to see what "density" means in LA ;) But the arrangement is great and the idea of having "open-courtyards" is definitely nice.

    • @Mike__B
      @Mike__B 2 года назад +1

      LA is huge, like gigantically spread out, this is suburban density, not like high rise apartment density which some other places have which wouldn't be allowed to be built in a place like this which is why you get those typical 2-3 unit apartment buildings on a lot.

  • @imianco8079
    @imianco8079 2 года назад

    loved loved this tour thank you!!! & hello from milwaukee !!

  • @denizmideniz
    @denizmideniz 2 года назад

    so well thought and designed . lovely .bravo

  • @Trgn
    @Trgn 2 года назад +1

    They are quite nice, clean designed actually.

  • @maxwellbald5016
    @maxwellbald5016 2 года назад +41

    The black siding is a downfall of those houses. You can see that the paint is already fading on the sunny side of the houses. It's going to absorb a lot of heat in hot LA. And then subjectively, I think 'modern' black 'design' is going to quickly look dated.

    • @DoubleBob
      @DoubleBob 2 года назад +1

      "'modern' black 'design' is going to quickly look dated."
      It's ugly af and I wouldn't want to live in something that looks like the overseized, depressed sibling of IKEA furniture.

  • @janeolinger8038
    @janeolinger8038 2 года назад +8

    Very impressive planning to address the reality of housing needs in cities. I would like see more similar places that are aging-in-place friendly. Stairs, both outside and in the houses, are not really safe options.

  • @AlexCab_49
    @AlexCab_49 2 года назад +2

    Stealth density would be great in areas where homeownership is higher. However in south LA I think it could be easier to build mid-rise apartments

  • @brianradwanski6544
    @brianradwanski6544 2 года назад +1

    Love this. We need more of this type of thing.

  • @denisewilson9599
    @denisewilson9599 2 года назад +1

    Wow, I really like these. LA needs this any greenery is awesome. Better to own house and ground. Very modern looking. Thank you.

  • @bessycorrales6405
    @bessycorrales6405 2 года назад +1

    Loving the large windows. Very light and airy and bring the outdoors in.

  • @douglasharley2440
    @douglasharley2440 2 года назад

    fantastic design and build! RESPECT

  • @AVega-rx4px
    @AVega-rx4px 2 года назад +1

    These are gorgeous!!!

  • @ChazEvansdale
    @ChazEvansdale 2 года назад +2

    For density this is the kind of community I'd want to live in! Ample/safer parking since it's not on the street, a place for group activities, you can be as connected or disconnected to your neighbors as you want! I love when tiny houses do villages packed like this, but because of zoning it seems those are only rented lots - So this is better, because you can still live in a smaller house, smaller footprint, but still own your home/land!

  • @karenzkilab7678
    @karenzkilab7678 2 года назад

    Simple,sleek,modern and just the right space,not too big and not too small..nice😄👍

  • @padkirsch
    @padkirsch 2 года назад

    Very cool houses! Awesome, I love it! 🌿🙂👍🕊️

  • @ansgarkoehler
    @ansgarkoehler 2 года назад +3

    I guess in LA it doesn’t get too cold, otherwise I’d worry about the insulation of those big windows.

    • @flx2525
      @flx2525 2 года назад

      Yes, in Europe they're building smaller windows now because of isolation/co2 etc.

  • @serbansaredwood
    @serbansaredwood 2 года назад +8

    I love the idea although I would like to see less space for parking and more for gardening/green space

    • @pedro-braga
      @pedro-braga 2 года назад +2

      @LOL CATZ how come? The city requires more than one or two parking spots per living unit?

    • @anaalves3658
      @anaalves3658 2 года назад

      @@pedro-braga they don't have good public transport. The city probably allocates 2-3 parking spaces per single family household. My parents have 2 cars and only one of them drives 🤦

  • @jaggynettles8382
    @jaggynettles8382 2 года назад

    Fantastic design thank you for sharing 🙏🙏🙏

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox 2 года назад

    There is a six year old video of them new called "Blackbirds Townhouse Community- Open House".

  • @sundancer442
    @sundancer442 2 года назад

    Simply amazing. A definite housing plan, for the immediate future. :)

  • @MBMCincy63
    @MBMCincy63 2 года назад +3

    I like the variety of home types, style and possiblity you present each week. Thanks 👍.

  • @davidbacon9223
    @davidbacon9223 2 года назад +8

    you can always 'scotch tape' your constantly evolving ART to the large windows for all your neighbors to see!..... when all your artistic neighbors do the same, your COMMUNITY will never have a dull moment!..... "It's alive! It's alive!" :-0

  • @phyllisarrington7436
    @phyllisarrington7436 2 года назад +1

    Those 2nd story windows all the way to the floor gave me vertigo. LOL.
    I'm guessing the panes are break-proof. IDK.
    Love the whole project. Good job!

  • @Kim-lc3fv
    @Kim-lc3fv 2 года назад +1

    Impressive. Do you know what is happening around Elysian Park, e.g., Park Drive? My late aunt and uncle lived there from 1949 to 2013 in a house built for them. Would be interesting to know if similar new higher density houses are being built there as well.

  • @tofuhunter1
    @tofuhunter1 2 года назад +1

    Love the concept. There is one for sale right now (pending already) for $1,295.000 (US).

  • @mattcarlson8262
    @mattcarlson8262 2 года назад +1

    Great floor plans and overall design too....With all the California sunshine, where are the solar panels ?

  • @tlockerk
    @tlockerk 2 года назад +3

    I like the concept and especially the ability to buy a single family unit...from seeing the neighbor homes, wondered if you'd considered using a more 'native' outdoor finish to better blend it with unhappy neighbors.

  • @daniel51020
    @daniel51020 Год назад

    Nice design. Smart use of space.
    I'm curious whether they considered adding solar panels or rainwater harvesting systems to the buildings?
    Also, what about active transport and/or public transport access and infrastructure?

  • @Tarodenaro
    @Tarodenaro 2 года назад +2

    this would've been amazing for mixed used zoning purpose like that in Tokyo.
    maybe we can revitalized struggling city center (e.g detroit) with these small kind of retail/housing combo downtown.

  • @stephensullivan1011
    @stephensullivan1011 2 года назад

    Right in echo Park. Impressive.

  • @earthmamma85
    @earthmamma85 2 года назад

    I love the layout of the house they showed

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 2 года назад +1

    I like the concept, just wish the architecture was more inspired -- like the Echo Park house you featured last year.

  • @tamiweber7118
    @tamiweber7118 2 года назад +2

    This is a well thought out plan and it brings the community together 💯🌟💯🌟💯🌟💯🌟

  • @marianfrances4959
    @marianfrances4959 2 года назад

    These are beautiful houses! 👍😎🇨🇦

  • @complimentary_voucher
    @complimentary_voucher 2 года назад +19

    'Skeptics vow to it'? That... doesn't mean anything.

  • @Eriugena8
    @Eriugena8 Год назад +1

    This lady thinks a lot. These buildings look really great inside and out. Great find KD!!

  • @sitansusekharpanda3431
    @sitansusekharpanda3431 2 года назад

    creative...modern look ❣️❣️❣️ smarty designs ❤️❤️

  • @paulrouth5997
    @paulrouth5997 2 года назад +4

    Outstanding reuse of the windows. Going to be a lot less large malls anchored by department stores; a lot of glass that can be repurposed.

    • @and11199
      @and11199 2 года назад +1

      The windows are re-used? I had the impression that they bought new windows sold for commercial projects.

    • @dnllmaurer1
      @dnllmaurer1 2 года назад +1

      @@and11199these windows were made for the project but manufactured in standard sizes to reduce cost. This type of window is not typically installed in residential properties. The original design was intended to suit the architectural style & purpose of commercial properties. Large store front windows are stationary so they're made thicker for structural integrity & safey. Smaller operational windows are added to provide air circulation. Many modern home designs showcase larger windows. Some have full length glass panels in place of a wall. They're installed on a track to slide aside & open the wall for an expansive space. Another option for versatility is to install a glass panel garage door. It's highly functional but has a distinct edgy industrial vibe.

  • @mgtowski395
    @mgtowski395 2 года назад

    Lovely project.

  • @blueman5924
    @blueman5924 2 года назад

    Who ever set up that crazy looking On Demand water heater on the side of the unit, wasn’t interested in the building looks. But the complex design is great. No balconies keeps the lines and finishes so clean. 👍👍

  • @dianahernandez7529
    @dianahernandez7529 2 года назад

    They are so Beautiful ❤️

  • @Clapicus
    @Clapicus 2 года назад +1

    are you planning to make one like these in San Diego?

  • @tbm4
    @tbm4 2 года назад +4

    Forever spraying windex!

  • @artemaeus
    @artemaeus 2 года назад

    LOVE this!

  • @starnejme6902
    @starnejme6902 2 года назад

    Superb!

  • @Mekhanic1
    @Mekhanic1 2 года назад +1

    It's a really nice property idea! I think I would prefer less concrete in the center.

  • @MarcMERTENSbe
    @MarcMERTENSbe 2 года назад +1

    It's a pity that everything is hardened outside ! it's a green area, but theses plots are all concrete, what a contrast - especially to park so many cars ... in Europe an underground parking would have been imposed. The 12 inch hidden joints between the houses are also mandatory to cope with a seismic event.

    • @aprilm9551
      @aprilm9551 2 года назад

      See meara daly's reply to another comment. She says that the paving is a requirement in LA.

  • @robinrutschman
    @robinrutschman 2 года назад

    The 6 inch spacing between dwellings help a lot with sound problems from the neighbors.

  • @cobralyoner
    @cobralyoner 2 года назад

    it's definitely a cool approach.

  • @michaelcaton9358
    @michaelcaton9358 2 года назад

    They look great but these are what we would call terraced houses or town houses in the Uk. They are also already quite large for a UK standard hous.

  • @clacicle
    @clacicle 2 года назад

    Very nice. Perhaps I missed it, but what was the genre price tag for these homes?

  • @rodellwilliams871
    @rodellwilliams871 2 года назад

    Awesome love it 🙏🏽🌞

  • @dolsiemercado3140
    @dolsiemercado3140 2 года назад

    It is nice but very close to one another. Very nice.

  • @TheHiawatha
    @TheHiawatha 2 года назад

    Very impressive

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox 2 года назад +1

    06:55 are those just air con compressors or do these places use air source heat pumps?

    • @graemezimmer604
      @graemezimmer604 2 года назад

      An Aircon Compressor is a heat pump. Just not reverse cycle.

  • @ellast1
    @ellast1 2 года назад +8

    Too much cement too little trees and green space

    • @tiggerable
      @tiggerable 2 года назад

      Just like in the Netherlands.

    • @thezenarcher
      @thezenarcher 2 года назад

      The cement is mostly for the parking. Give up the cars and the courtyard can be all greenspace (but that's up to the residents, and the zoning if there are parking minimums)

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox 2 года назад

    Is there a video on the construction of these?

  • @Pressplay_Media_EU
    @Pressplay_Media_EU 2 года назад

    I made a bow/arrow similar to hers but made from bamboo.. worked great a few times and suddenly snapped in half..
    better luck (and stronger material) next time.. Did anyone else see the bow/arrows?

  • @lordgremlin580
    @lordgremlin580 2 года назад +1

    This is great for limiting crime as this encourages neighbors to engage and do community watch. And the courtyard/ parking lot it genius!!!!

  • @brianharrison8821
    @brianharrison8821 2 года назад

    What is the square footage of the block? Is it an acre +??

  • @4316rodney
    @4316rodney 2 года назад +1

    This lady is just killing the word salad

  • @astzfat3319
    @astzfat3319 2 года назад

    Large windows with foliage 4 privacy - nice.
    Every room must have windows on TWO sides for air flow.
    Middle house of triplex - need rooftop window fans like on travel homes for enough light and air flow.

  • @michellejean8068
    @michellejean8068 2 года назад

    I love all the things you do. I'm.looking for land to build my dome house ..in AZ. Now I need land. Is there any realitors that specialize in alternative housing. I want to build 7 haha. A community. If I can't find one. I'll have to build it. Thanks for all you do.