Fanatec McLaren GT3 V2 or Formula V2 - Helping You Decide Which Wheel Is the One for You
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- Both wheels are great, but as they share a lot in common yet have a massive price difference, it's hard to decide which to go for. Here are numerous pinch points that might be swaying you one way or the other, and what I think about them.
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G29 owner here, just passing by..
me too! hahaha
@@ItsByramTime let's go pal, we don't want to overstay our welcome ;)
Brothers! My G29 is at my bedside where I can look after it in it's retirement.
Same
G29 is an epic wheel bro!
Thanks for this Danny. Have been using the basic xbox CSL elite wheel in an attempt to keep costs down when first ordered simracing kit. It's ok but was just never fully happy with it and always wanted a square wheel. Now in position to get new wheel and was focused on the F2 V2.5 , mainly because I got excited over the thumb encodes. But now after watching this I can see that the McLaren wheel is the more level headed choice for me, thanks for the help. I won't split the savings with you but I will be subscribed from now.
I'm in the same boat. I've been using the McLaren more often than my Formula wheel. I do prefer the bigger diameter over the Formula, except when I'm near a crocodile.
Could come in handy in rally sims, for sure.
Do you miss the Rev counter, is the main thing making me go to the v2
@@benrske2723 The McLaren wheel doesn't block the rev counter on the CSL wheelbase. But tbh, i rarely look at it. I rely on the in game HUD more so.
do you use it for formula racing?
@@aidantaylor117 Yes. The wheel is not too bulky for quick rotations.
Man, between your wit and good breakdowns of the product lineup; might just order myself a CSL Elite and a wheel this year. Great content, mate.
Lovey clear and precise well explained video! Love your videos buddy.
I owned the V1 McLaren rim which I loved (had the clubsport QR) until it gave up due to the dodgy shifters which they’ve now changed. In the end I asked Fanatec for an exchange with the Formula rim and it’s a tricky one to pick between the two.
I find the extra vibrations in the Formula really helped with feel for me. Aside from that there isn’t much between them, but like you I do find the McLaren design much more attractive and I may end up buying a V2 again just as a spare rim.
Finally, as I owned both I found this a nice comparison. You’re really clear and concise with your videos and I can only see this channel growing further. Keep it up man and hope to see you on track one day!
The vibration feature on the Formula V2.5 wheel is very important to me to feel when ABS kicks in. Thx for the reminder
I got the Formula V2 wheel, felt the hype and ordered the McLaren V2 wheel. Plan was to sell the Formula wheel bit didn´t like the McLaren wheel so ended up selling that instead. The Formula wheel feels just so much luxurious and well built. But yeah the McLaren is great value 👍🏻 Nice video mate!
The V2 x is great round Monaco .
Fantastic comparison. I upgraded to Fanatec from Logitech on Black Friday. I started with the Rally Wheel as that’s what I mostly drive. I dabble a little in ACC so wanted a square wheel too but thought I’d wait and see what wheels they announced as the Formula V2 seemed a bit rich for me for a category of racing I only dabble in and suck at. Well the day the McLaren V2 was announced, it looked perfect so I immediately ordered. It arrived yesterday and I fired up ACC and gave it a try. I love it! My only slight concern was the lack of thumb wheels. Thanks for putting that concern to rest.
Great review and agree with most you say. Have the McLaren GT3 and formula Carbon. At the end of the day, you are not looking at your steering wheel but what you are doing in the race and functionality in both is fine unless you are an e-sports driver. The McLaren GT3 is the go to wheel for most of the sims I play, but do slightly prefer the formula wheel for open wheel races. If I had a choice of one or the other, would choose the McLaren GT3 every day of the week and is the one that I use 90% of the time no-matter which format I am racing, excluding rallying or drifting of course. The rubber on the wheel feels fine and the grip indents and feel are amazing.
I've been weighing up these two over the past few days, so this came just at the right time; as always, a comprehensive yet concise overview which leaves me with more answers than I had questions. I'll bookmark your affiliate link for when I order my Macca V2. Cheers Danny 🍻
Cheers Ethan, thanks for watching and commenting, I only make these videos because I believe that if I'm thinking this stuff, at least some others must be, too. Been racing for 10+ years and the stuff that's available now vs when I started is crazy!
@@dannyleeracing Absolutely, decade plus here too. I started on a Saitek R80, and the upgrade to a Driving Force Pro was the equivalent of jumping between a G29 and a Simucube 2. Now we have Fanatec coming out with a rim made for both sim and reality, DD wheels that can put out IndyCar levels of torque, and Demon Tweeks catalogues have an entire simracing section. Love it.
i am 10 month behind you and did exactly the same.. just ordered the Mc V2 with a csl dd base ..
This is the best review i have seen so far. Keep it up!
Great comparison. Watching this because my fanatec setup is coming next week and I couldn’t resist the formula v2 wheel 😍
Mate, enjoy it - I know you will!
Just wanted to say…amazing video. The way you include..”if your basing your decision on x, then you don’t need to be worried/both do this etc” is REALLY helpful! One of the best comparison videos I’ve seen! Thank you!
Thanks man - a lot of the time it's just nice to boil it down like that! That's the way I like to deal with it.
@@dannyleeracing it’s really really good content. Stands out miles above the other comparison vids. Honestly. I’ve watched ALOT of them. Translating it to the questions you know people will be asking themselves is exceptionally useful. Most just tell you what the details are. But it’s not all that helpful when you have no reference. You go the extra step and it’s really helpful! 🤜🤜🤜👌
@@dannyleeracing also been watching your guides on driving (brake bias etc) really really good videos! Would love to see more of those. Definitely well explained and boiled down! Well done you!!!
I own both ( got Macca like 3 months ago) and gotta say - quality, additional functionality, LEDs and buttons of Formula are great. The size of McLaren makes it feel like a real wheel instead of a toy though. Since I got it I've used Formula maybe for few occasional races and Mc on daily basis
Dude, clear, concise and excellent content, keep it up, sub’d
awesome video! very informative and right to the point.
Very nice video mate thank you for this! Extremely helpful👍🏼
Cheers man, thanks for watching and the feedback!
Excellent summary buddy - really enjoyable watch and a helpful steer.
The plastic hub release developed a click for me with my csl elite. Keep that in mind. The clubsport qr fixes this problem.
Excellent comparison, thank you.
Thank goodness for you, i was so close to sticking my head into a crocodiles mouth whilst standing in unlined wellies, phew, close one, jokes aside, nice vid, got my e mail from Fanatec today, my order gone to warehouse, woo hoo, one step closer. Nice work keep it coming👍🏼
Great video. Led me to buy the McLaren over the Formula just now. I clicked your affiliate link on my phone then ordered from PC, so I hope you still get the affiliate sale for it. I did click your link again on my PC, but AFTER I already ordered. Either way, thanks much for the solid review.
I love my gt3 v2, however the stock quick release got sloppy very quickly and began making popping and squeaking noises pretty quickly. The noises were worrying enough that I upgraded to the qr1 quick release which not only silenced the rim completely but also noticably improved the crispness and Fidelity of the ffb feel in the wheel.
did you use it with a dd1 or higher torque motor?
@@hyp3r-gaming157 no… it was used with a csl elite… didn’t get my dd1 until after I had already changed the qr
@@gulfcoaster210 oh alright, well ok thanks, I'll know it might be possible for me too
I will take into account your experience when I am completely convinced to place the order even if there is no proportion in the prices of fanatec, only the quick release of metal costs half the wheel and by adding that to the order with the same money I could buy the BMW GT2 V2 clubsport steering wheel already fully equipped and made of solid metal and covered in alcantara
@@alessandrozucchiatti6814 I own the gt2 as well and almost never touch it. There is more to a wheel than materials quality. The ergonomics and performance are paramount over anything else imho.
I no longer use either the v2.5 or the mclaren v2 however and am now using a turn r305 with the podium hub, button module endurance and magnetic paddle module. It is on a different level of quality and ergonomics as compared to anything offered by fanatec.
Loving your content man! Keep it up! I'm team formula for the future ability to go dd without compromise, more buttons, and look!
You should do asmr videos lol
I own one of the original McLaren V1 wheels bought when Fanatec offered a bundle that included the Clubsport metal QR for a really good price. I have had no problems period out of my V1 wheel over the last couple of years. It has been my daily driver and to me for a combination GT/Formula car wheel set up is awesome. I have ordered a V2 wheel as I do want a spare just in case.
I will try the new V2 wheel as it does have some upgrades such as the magnetic shifters and I will transfer my metal QR over to the new wheel just because I have it and I can.
In my opinion the McLaren GT3 wheel is one of the best value buys at its price point you can purchase from Fanatec period.
This video has been great thank you
Rock solid review - subscribed.
Cheers mate, thanks for watching and leaving a comment
Came from CSL Elite Wheel and somehow i got into gt racing , mind you not i loved drifting at the time but i got a hell of a deal with a Mclaren GT3 V1 . I somehow managed to buy one from someone closeby for exactly 50 euros :))) best investment ever as the wheel is barely touched and i have everything from the box (stickers, cards and all) Practically brand new . It's weird because i dont feel particularly wow playing with it but i like it . Made my time better for some reason
found this very helpful....especially the bit about which one to use to hold a crocodiles jaws open when you are about to stick your head in. Thanks.
It's a mistake you can't make even once
Great video, cheers mate!
Nice video mate thanks
Good advice. I believe, for my low budget, I am good with the hard plastic
Things you can say both here and at the plastic surgeon
I own the mclaren v1 and the formula Carbon and the size and ergonomics of the Mclaren is just perfect, and prefer the Mclaren over the Formula rim. I wish they made a premium version of the Mclaren rim with better materials and grips, because the only downside is the Mclaren wheel feels a bit plastic. The formula wheel feels way more sturdy.
Nice review mate
Already have one preordered and shipping in the next days - watching this video gets me so excited as i've been using a standard fanatec wheel for formula racing. Thanks!
The only thing that still bothers me as an xbox user is the limited button configuration options - anyone else bothered by this?
I made the change from xbox to pc and the jump is incredible for using all of the buttons. the rev lights are useess on xbox, unfortunately.
@@nickhitchcock3277 good to know, its insane microsoft are doing nothing about it - PlayStation have 28 custom buttons 😅
The wheel itself though - its epic
Thanks mate, I just orderd the mclaren wheel with my CSL DD
hi, how did you find the CSL DD? Fanatec website does not promote CSL wheel base anymore?
I only have a csl dd 8mn and that plastic release wore out fairly quickly. Would make a very noticeable clunk going left to right.
im about to make my first fanatec purchase and this is the same setup im eyeing up and im seeing a lot of people saying about this click when turning. do you think i should just opt straight for the metal QR
@@brettapuss I would. I didn't use it long at all before putting some electrical tape so I could even use it.
GT3 V2 on a DD1 needs the CSQR addon. The standard simplified QR causes issues with the DD1. The V2 has a few ergo issues that killed it for me. The GT3 V2 is brilliant, the size is perfect (V2 is too small for me). I have not taken it off the DD1 since I got it in the first batch. Perfect for ACC.
I have the V2 with APM's. I use the top right paddle for DRS and I can't even remember what the top left paddle is mapped to. The two thumb dials are mapped to brake bias and differential, though I also can't remember which is which because I hardly ever change them in a race.
The V2 is kind of overkill for my style of driving, and even though it's nice to know all those dials and switches are there if I need them, I may have been better off going with a Formula Esports or Formula Carbon rim and spent the extra cash on the Club Sport pedals.
Also, does anyone else have issues with the Fanatec button caps snapping in half or just falling off? I have had half the caps snap in half, while the other half just don't want to stay on anymore. Did I just get a faulty batch?
If I knew you had the affiliate link before buying my DD and McLaren wheel I would have def used it, gonna save it for when I get the bmw wheel
How useful are clutch paddles? It’s one thing I’d go for if it’s better than a foot pedal.
Awesome videos! Please post more!
Thanks, nice job.
Brilliant comparison
I want an Aston wheel! Though a AMG wheel with 3 encoders would be nice too.
Oh man, an Aston wheel would be something really bloody special. Here's to hoping.
do you think forcefeedback is more noticeable than regular round shape wheel or does it give less forcefeedback because of made of plastic?
as soon as I got to the crocodile picture it was an instant Like And Subscribe lol Great Video
Good video! I think I’m going to get the formula v2.5 d!
I wish they wouldve used real carbon on the McLaren wheel, theming my rig after McLaren but kinda want both. Great review btw!
I have both wheels and ove them both . I do have the A.P.M on the V2 and they do add a extra element to that wheel, but at a cost. Which is better? I couldn't say but I reach the gear shifters on the A.P.M easier.
“As you lose hold of yourself and slide deeper into the sim racing ether” 😂😂 I was literally thinking get the formula and upgrade the paddles eventually and then you said that!
I’ve got a V2 and ClubSport wheel base, it’s great but I’ve noticed it clips so much. I’ve no idea how to fix it
I purchased the formula because the McLaren was in preorder for nearly 3 weeks. I'm super excited to get my first formula wheel!
They just released a new one lol
im gettin Mclaren with Clubsport Quick Release 2 when it come out. i love the 300mm diameter for better feel
@@FormulaProg there is barely any change
@@timkoken1570 it’s cheaper and has magnetic shifters now
@@FormulaProg its not cheaper but you do get free magnetic shifters, but those are like 20 bucks if you get a 3rd party
I'm considering getting the McL V2. How would the shifters compare to my F1 V2 + APM and UH ( /w 285mm D-shape rim) + CS MPM magnetic shifters?
I do already have a spare QR1 laying around (considering buying an adapter to mount a 70mm rim directly to it otherwise, for Rally)
*yes those rotary encoders SUCK. There's a mod you can do to fix it mostly, but you have to 3D print and/or find the right parts and take the wheel apart. Big letdown of this rim.
*rev lights are cool! until you switch to VR only :P
New Fanatec user here Cant wait to try it.
I have both... my Formula V2 has the advanced paddle module..... The Mclaren rim hasn't come off my rig since I got it and made the decision between the 2
I would be happy if the wheels get full support on Xbox Series X instead of having assignment issues for the buttons and display & rev lights not working. Do you know when full compatibility with Xbox will be supported?
Xbox only allows for a certain number of buttons to be assigned. Every wheel has this problem even G923’s because the gas, brake, and steering are 3 inputs right there
Video is well done!
Can I ask where you purchased the button labels for the wheels? Do you have a link?
Thank you!
Sure thing, it's the Fanatec Button Cap and Sticker Set here - fanatec.com/eu-en/accessories/steering-wheel-accessories/button-caps-and-sticker-set?FAP+Banner&General+Links&a_aid=5f3d21d010f77
Gonna be getting a CSL DD soon what would you recommend i cant pick
Awesome vid!
Man do i hope they go with the idea of multi manufacturer wheels!!! Id be down and supporting the csl elite till its death. Curious to know the difference between the clubsport base
Great video, Where did you get the button caps from please? Thanks
Fanatec make them, they'll be there under accessories or as an added extra when you checkout. You're looking for the Button Cap and Sticker Set: fanatec.com/eu-en/accessories/steering-wheel-accessories/button-caps-and-sticker-set?FAP+Banner&General+Links&a_aid=5f3d21d010f77
Has anybody that ordered this wheel in the USA know how long it takes to ship, currently it says it won't be available until June 30th. Do you guys know if that's just an estimate or exact ?
its not locked by software, its locked by a pastic pin that depresses a button inside the wheel, located on the quick release, grind it off, no limitation, can recommend for 15NM, never used it past that due to being cheaply made
i‘m using the mclaren v2 wheel with qr for acc. the wheel has much better ergonomics for a gt game. my car handling became much better. from a quality aspect the f1 wheels are the better productline, but by a functional aspect i prefer the mclaren wheel.
Does the CSL DD work at 8nm with 8nm power pack if you use the McLaren plastic quick release?
Yes
Does anyone know anyway you can get a fanatec setup (wheel wheel base and pedals) for Less money because damn they’re expensive
This is a video i needed 😂🙌🏻
Hope it helps dude. You can't go wrong with either wheel but if the McLaren sounds like your best choice then at least you save some money.
@@dannyleeracing yeah thanks man! Hoping to get one later in the year , then ill save for a dd2 😎
I almost just canceled my McLaren order to go for the Formula one, until I watched this video. Thank you!
How do you like it? Ordered one for my gt dd pro.
The BB and Diff thumb wheels are too good. If the McLaren had these it'd be a no brainer.
Hi Danny, enjoy your vids. Hit your link to Fanatec to support you, but unfortunately cannot access the wheel on that Fanatec site from Australia. Must be the European site, prices being in Euro.
Nice video. Where did you get your button caps?
Fanatec sells them: fanatec.com/eu-en/accessories/steering-wheel-accessories/button-caps-and-sticker-set?FAP+Banner&General+Links&a_aid=5f3d21d010f77
i thought the low torque was only on the plastic QR with the plastic nub?
Hi me again. Just a quick question, I only heard about a fanatec driver thing today. As an xbox player, do I really need to plug it into my laptop and install it there? Or can I just plug it into my xbox (as I've bought the csl base and pedals with the gt3 v2 as well) and what do the drivers do? Thank you, you are a huge help!
Unfortunately yes, you do need a Windows device to update the firmware on the wheelbase - you'd have to connect the wheelbase to your PC/laptop which has the Fanatec driver software installed. From there, your Fanatec Wheel Properties utility has the ability to update your hardware firmware. There are guides on this and it's important to go slow and read carefully as firmware updates are like opening the brain of the electronics, they must not be interrupted or they could be left inoperable.
However, firmware updates are not absolutely essential, if your wheelbase works with the games you play then updating firmware is an optional extra. However, when I bought my WRC wheel my wheelbase needed updating to recognise it, that's a case where firmware updates were mandatory to get it to work.
Firmware updates are usually done if an error or quirk in the system is detected, new games are released or updated which cause your hardware to stop working exactly as intended, and so on. They're just updates for your hardware, delivered manually.
Are u not missing the motors for vibration going back to the gt3?
Help me understand: I have a GT DD Pro bundle... The GT steering wheel has the plastic connection. I took the upgraded version to 8nm and it runs at 8nm power. Why does the McLaren steering wheel not operate at maximum power if the quick release accessory is not purchased?
The plastic quick release only triggers the power limit when mounted on a DD1 or DD2 wheelbase, which have 20/25nm of torque and can detect when the plastic QR is used. Power is not limited on the GT DD Pro as it only has 8nm torque so you can use the plastic OR metal quick release and the power output will not be affected.
In other words, as you have a GT DD Pro you're not affected by the power limit.
I’m not a big mclaren fan really and it annoys me if I got a different cars brand wheel to the car I’m driving in game 😄 hence why I went for the V2.
I would love nothing more than to have the choice between Mclaren, Aston, Merc etc. I hope it's coming...
I bought the CSL ELITE f1 Bundle. It has a Formula 1 style wheel. I am undecided whether to go for the McLaren GT3 wheel (as I mainly play ACC) or a more rally style kind of wheel (as I also like rally games). Which one should I go for?
Probably replying too late, but couldn't you get the extra paddle module and the BMW round wheel? About 300 total
Question about either wheel - How do you reassign buttons for GT7? When I load the controller menu in game, neither of these wheels shows up. Do you have to use a PC to remap buttons?
Which wheels do you have exactly?
bought a formula v2.5x wheel for my csl dd.. it just looks better imo and i feel like i need the extra buttons too.. coming from a t300rs
The Formula V2 works in GT DD pro base? Also in PS5 ?
I actually switch from the Formula V2 to the McLaren GT3… never looked back. The McLaren is amazing value and holds up. Sure its not carbon fibre.. but its strong with a metal quick release.
love the crocodile illustration lol
3:01 my man's got skill
Hi Danny, Has the McLaren cracked where it mounts to the QR yet? The wheel feels great however after my experience inside 5 months I hope the V2 Formula wheel has a better construction in this area.
I have the DD GT Pro which comes with the same QR and it’s awful. Super loud cracking/popping noises. Replaced with the QR1 and that solved the problem completely. Would never use the plastic QR so for me the price diff is negligible since the formula comes with the good QR. I like the features of the formula but want a larger wheel like the Mick.
Prefer McLaren v2 wheel, larger dia, and the 1 pc shifter paddle is the best with zero flex, can shift up or down from either side too
Both wheels work on ps5 and xbox too thats cool
My friend bought one and it wouldn’t sync with the PS4
Do you need to upgrade the hub on the wheel to get the full ffb with the gt dd? as you would need to with the dd1 or dd2.
You don't need the metal quick release to unlock the GT DD Pro, only on the high-power DD1 or DD2 bases
I do prefer the formula wheel for a few reasons, but for that price with my budget, the McLaren wheel looks like the nicest wheel in the entire world 😂
you pay extra $170 usd ..for
different size (30 vs 27mm)
Real 5mm Carbon plate (not cheap plastic)
Aluminum Quick release adaptor (value $80 + shipping cost).(if you want play in dd1 or dd2. you have to buy this for use full torque)
Led light (rpm and others)
two vabration motor intergrade with handle grib (this is most delight function in this wheel.)
and, some more buttons.
i do plan to buy Fanatec F1 coz it comes with the motor
At 5:05 "if you're worried the McLaren wheel has more flex....." It does. I bought the McLaren GT3 V2. At 7 months old it felt as if the left grip was flexing. Then the grip broke off at the bottom and wheel is unusable.There's a thin plastic protrusion into the grip and this fractured. Sent video and pictures to Fanatec support. At my expense I am to post the wheel back but they reckoned that the wheel had been dropped, which it definitely hasn't. So haven't much faith in how they will proceed with this. Not sure what to do I could end up with the added expense of sending the wheel back and if they decide it's not going to be fixed under warranty it's going to be just over $60 per hour to fix. As well I was using the wheel on a CSL elite for PS4 base so not direct drive.
My V2 finally arrived after over a months wait. It does feel very nice and the quality is second to none. The only issue I have come across are the paddle shifters. For me they are very close to the rim and leaves a very small gap making it a little tricky to get my fingers off the rim and engage the paddle.
Flip them and swap sides ;) that's what I did to make them further away.
Genius
Love the formula alot more. The McLaren feels cheap and hollow brother has one. Size is nice but I actually prefer the smaller rim
How does it hold up with time?
I prefer the f1 wheel but am on a budget as am moving from thrustmaster to fanatec setup 😩
Great video ! I ordered the Mclaren GT3 V2 with your affiliation link, hope it will work. Thanks !
Thanks man, appreciate it - it definitely makes a difference
Where's the video showing how to lower the noise of the magnetic shifters of the McLaren GT3 V2 wheel
Here it is, bloke man: ruclips.net/video/7e9w0MikMd8/видео.html
I must do the crocodile test!
Thanks for the video. I am in the market for a new wheel and pedal set. I just received my PS 5 today ( yipee ) . Looking to purchase a complete set from Fanatec. Budget around Eur 950.00 . What would you recommend is a good set up. I love the look of the Formula, however if the Maclaren does the job just as well then I will go with that....Any ideas on wheel base and pedals. Thanks for your input. ( New subscriber by the way )
I've come to much prefer the McLaren wheel from an ergonomic standpoint, I sold my Formula after a few weeks of owning
Csl dd base with the csl pedals with the clutch kit. Best for the money